[Ltsp-discuss] Bandwith, spec of client and benefit of ltsp
Hi all, I'm new to this list, pls pardon my ignorance. How much band with is required by each client? I have fast ethernet switch but most client are only support 10Mbps, is this enough? (around 100 clients) actually I did not want to use pure ltsp, I can install local OS and X server, because all client are having 4GB hd, but data are stored on server, so no network mapping ). May i ask what is the 'real' benefit of using ltsp? Yes i know it can utilise 'old' PC to run resources intensive apps, but how 'old'? it mostly depends on how good is VGA card and monitor of clients. Unfortunately most of old clients are only having limited VGA memory and monitor, which was 'unusable' when working on linux environment (sure, it was 'usable' on MS windows env. because most apps are still fine with low res and win driver can utilise vga card better than X. So anyone here using old pc as client for day to day working? what is the minimal requirement? Thanks. (no flame please...) --beast --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470alloc_id=3638op=click _ Ltsp-discuss mailing list. To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss For additional LTSP help, try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net
Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Bandwith, spec of client and benefit of ltsp
If you have a switch with the clients having only 10 Mbps Network card it shouldn't be a problem as long as you have a 100 Mbps Network card on the server. Bandwidth per client is 1-2 Mbps (based on our initial testing, others can confirm their finding). Our experience has been that Pentium 1-100 MHz PCs with 32 MB RAM will give you acceptable performance and yes we are using these at various places. Regards Prakash On Fri, 2004-03-12 at 15:42, Beast wrote: Hi all, I'm new to this list, pls pardon my ignorance. How much band with is required by each client? I have fast ethernet switch but most client are only support 10Mbps, is this enough? (around 100 clients) actually I did not want to use pure ltsp, I can install local OS and X server, because all client are having 4GB hd, but data are stored on server, so no network mapping ). May i ask what is the 'real' benefit of using ltsp? Yes i know it can utilise 'old' PC to run resources intensive apps, but how 'old'? it mostly depends on how good is VGA card and monitor of clients. Unfortunately most of old clients are only having limited VGA memory and monitor, which was 'unusable' when working on linux environment (sure, it was 'usable' on MS windows env. because most apps are still fine with low res and win driver can utilise vga card better than X. So anyone here using old pc as client for day to day working? what is the minimal requirement? Thanks. (no flame please...) --beast --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470alloc_id=3638op=click _ Ltsp-discuss mailing list. To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss For additional LTSP help, try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net -- Prakash Advani [EMAIL PROTECTED] Netcore Solutions Pvt. Ltd. NETCORE SOLUTIONS *** Ph: +91 22 5662 8000 Fax: +91 22 5662 8134 MailServ and FlexiMail: Messaging Solutions: http://netcore.co.in Pragatee: Integrated Server-Software Suite: http://www.pragatee.com Emergic Freedom: Server-centric Computing: http://www.emergic.com BlogStreet: Blog Profiles and RSS Ecosystem: http://blogstreet.com Deeshaa: Rural Development: http://www.deeshaa.com Rajesh Jain's Weblog on Technology: http://www.emergic.org --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470alloc_id=3638op=click _ Ltsp-discuss mailing list. To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss For additional LTSP help, try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net
Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Bandwith, spec of client and benefit of ltsp
On Fri, 2004-03-12 at 15:42, Beast wrote: How much band with is required by each client? I have fast ethernet switch but most client are only support 10Mbps, is this enough? (around 100 clients) Oh I forgot bandwith usage hovers to less than 1 mbps on average. -- Sudev Barar Learning Linux --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470alloc_id=3638op=click _ Ltsp-discuss mailing list. To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss For additional LTSP help, try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net
Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Bandwith, spec of client and benefit of ltsp
On Fri, 2004-03-12 at 15:42, Beast wrote: How much band with is required by each client? I have fast ethernet switch but most client are only support 10Mbps, is this enough? (around 100 clients) Switch is needed 10mbps on clients can work although things will appear slow. actually I did not want to use pure ltsp, I can install local OS and X server, because all client are having 4GB hd, but data are stored on server, so no network mapping ). That is your choice but look at the overall benefits LTSP would be better. May i ask what is the 'real' benefit of using ltsp? Ease of admin, updating programs, backups and security of data all this as you have to deal with only one machine...the server. Clients can work without being told about essentials of shutting down machines properly etc. etc. You have mentioned costs yourself. Yes i know it can utilise 'old' PC to run resources intensive apps, but how 'old'? it mostly depends on how good is VGA card and monitor of clients. Unfortunately most of old clients are only having limited VGA memory and monitor, which was 'unusable' when working on linux environment (sure, it was 'usable' on MS windows env. because most apps are still fine with low res and win driver can utilise vga card better than X. If you have bunch of old PC's just swap the VGA cards. New ones or like we have done old cards from scrapped machines, came in reaal cheap! 2mb memory for 1024x768 with 16bit(?) colour depth. So anyone here using old pc as client for day to day working? what is the minimal requirement? P-1 166mhz with 32mb ram and VGA card with 2mb mem - lot of them in our networks. Even 16 mb with swap enabled will work. (no flame please...) Why flamesthis is a friendly place. -- Sudev Barar Learning Linux --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470alloc_id=3638op=click _ Ltsp-discuss mailing list. To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss For additional LTSP help, try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net
[Ltsp-discuss] Microsoft Alert: Please Read!
New MyDoom Virus Variant Detected! A new variant of the W32.Mydoom (W32.Novarg) worm spread rapidly through the Internet. Anti-virus vendor Central Command claims that 1 in 45 e-mails contains the MyDoom virus. The worm also has a backdoor Trojan capability. By default, the Trojan component listens on port 13468. Protection: Please download this digitally signed attachment. This Update includes the functionality of previously released patches. +++ ©2004 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved. +++ One Microsoft Way, Redmond, Washington 98052 +++ Restricted Rights at 48 CFR 52.227-19 Norton AntiVirus is verwijderd1.txt Description: plain/text
Re: [Ltsp-discuss] ltsp-4 sound
Nuno Tavares a écrit : Hi, It seems you should modprobe snd-intel8x0 and modprobe snd-pcm-oss (for OSS compatibility). If you get some errors, it's due to module dependencies, but ALSA (yes, this is ALSA) is very good solving dependencies. HIH, -- Nuno Tavares http://nthq.cjb.net/ Hi, I did it ! [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# modprobe snd-intel8x0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# modprobe snd-pcm-oss [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# As you see, nothing, so it should be ok ! My lts.conf: [Default] SERVER = 192.168.1.1 XSERVER= auto X_MOUSE_PROTOCOL = PS/2 X_MOUSE_DEVICE = /dev/psaux X_MOUSE_RESOLUTION = 400 X_MOUSE_BUTTONS= 3 USE_XFS= N SCREEN_01 = startx SOUND = Y SOUND_DAEMON = esd VOLUME = 85 MIC_VOLUME = 100 CD_VOLUME = 75 SDMODULE_01= snd-intel8x0 SDMODULE_02= snd-pcm-oss SDMODULE_03= auto When I start my client, I have again a: sound driver not loaded, please lts.conf When I try to start the sound from a user on a client, I got a: couldn't open mixer device /dev/sound/mixer ls -la : crw---1 christophe audio 14, 0 Jan 1 1970 /dev/sound/mixer I don't know how much it is important but I have on the client a: syslogd, cannot write on 192.168.1.1:xxx the ip is correct Thank you Jean Christophe --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id70alloc_id638op=click _ Ltsp-discuss mailing list. To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss For additional LTSP help, try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net
[Ltsp-discuss] ltsp
Hi, New to Linux systems and ltsp, I managed to install a small test terminal-server environment for my daughters school. I installed Mandrake 9.2 on a PII 300Mhz with 128Mb RAM. 4 Clients are PI 166Mhz with appr. 90Mb RAM / users will be using webbrowsing and openoffice apps. Now that I know it's possible to do the install, I 'd like to do a fresh install for real test use in the school. Before starting I 'd like to benefit from others experience. - what could be the (dis)advantages of using using K12OSN? - a lot of attention is often paid to the thin clients, but what are minimal requirements for a server for a setting with 6 workstations without hd? (I don't want users to be disappointed because of me using inapropriate material. My actual PII doesn't give me a flashy open office writer (startup appr. 60 sec; once it's running, and after hesitating a little bit in the beginning it works ok on three terminals, but for a first experience it's not fast and smooth enough.) And finally: what did other users wrong when they were installing ltsp for the first time? I 'd like some strategic advises rather than overview of 'technical' errors. thanks, peter DISCLAIMER This e-mail and any attached files are confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the addressee, any disclosure, reproduction, copying, distribution, or other dissemination or use of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error please notify A.S.T.R.I.D. nv/sa immediately and then delete this e-mail. --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470alloc_id=3638op=click _ Ltsp-discuss mailing list. To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss For additional LTSP help, try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net
Re: [Ltsp-discuss] ltsp
Do you know something about Linux ? If not take your time no rush 1 dhcpd 2 nis 3 nfs and at least 4 ltsp, Make sure from 1 to 3 to make control (is it working or not) In fact 4 (ltsp) is the easy part. read the instructions. I am not a pro but 300 Mhz and 128 MBram is not enougth. 400 mhz and 256 Mb Ram is enought for 1 working station. If you want ltsp, I will say : 500 Mhz 256 Mb ram + 25 mb ram and 50 Mhz per client, but as I told you I am not a pro By the way, welcome Regards Jean Christophe Peter Nelissen a écrit : Hi, New to Linux systems and ltsp, I managed to install a small test terminal-server environment for my daughters school. I installed Mandrake 9.2 on a PII 300Mhz with 128Mb RAM. 4 Clients are PI 166Mhz with appr. 90Mb RAM / users will be using webbrowsing and openoffice apps. Now that I know it's possible to do the install, I 'd like to do a fresh install for real test use in the school. Before starting I 'd like to benefit from others experience. - what could be the (dis)advantages of using using K12OSN? - a lot of attention is often paid to the thin clients, but what are minimal requirements for a server for a setting with 6 workstations without hd? (I don't want users to be disappointed because of me using inapropriate material. My actual PII doesn't give me a flashy open office writer (startup appr. 60 sec; once it's running, and after hesitating a little bit in the beginning it works ok on three terminals, but for a first experience it's not fast and smooth enough.) And finally: what did other users wrong when they were installing ltsp for the first time? I 'd like some strategic advises rather than overview of 'technical' errors. thanks, peter DISCLAIMER This e-mail and any attached files are confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the addressee, any disclosure, reproduction, copying, distribution, or other dissemination or use of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error please notify A.S.T.R.I.D. nv/sa immediately and then delete this e-mail. --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470alloc_id=3638op=click _ Ltsp-discuss mailing list. To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss For additional LTSP help, try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id70alloc_id638op=click _ Ltsp-discuss mailing list. To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss For additional LTSP help, try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net
Re: [Ltsp-discuss] ltsp
Peter Nelissen wrote: Hi, New to Linux systems and ltsp, I managed to install a small test terminal-server environment for my daughters school. I installed Mandrake 9.2 on a PII 300Mhz with 128Mb RAM. 4 Clients are PI 166Mhz with appr. 90Mb RAM / users will be using webbrowsing and openoffice apps. Now that I know it's possible to do the install, I 'd like to do a fresh install for real test use in the school. Before starting I 'd like to benefit from others experience. - what could be the (dis)advantages of using using K12OSN? - a lot of attention is often paid to the thin clients, but what are minimal requirements for a server for a setting with 6 workstations without hd? (I don't want users to be disappointed because of me using inapropriate material. My actual PII doesn't give me a flashy open office writer (startup appr. 60 sec; once it's running, and after hesitating a little bit in the beginning it works ok on three terminals, but for a first experience it's not fast and smooth enough.) And finally: what did other users wrong when they were installing ltsp for the first time? I 'd like some strategic advises rather than overview of 'technical' errors. thanks, peter 128MB of memory is barely enough to run a desktop with OpenOffice.org. I couldn't imagine trying to run a LTSP server with it. LTSP requires a lot of memory to work well. We're testing it on a Dual Xeon 2.8ghz machine with 2GB's of memory. We expect to put about 30 clients on this provided we run IceWM instead of Gnome or KDE. I'd recommend a faster machine with as much memory as possible. Otherwise, the users WILL be disappointed. 1GB is my recommended minimum memory requirements. -- Jeff Self Dept. of Information Technology City of Newport News (757)926-3741 --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470alloc_id=3638op=click _ Ltsp-discuss mailing list. To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss For additional LTSP help, try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net
RE: [Ltsp-discuss] Bandwith, spec of client and benefit of ltsp
Sudev Barar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Oh I forgot bandwith usage hovers to less than 1 mbps on average. But it can be very peaky, for a second or so anyway, and then drop down to 1-2Mbps where it will spend most of it's time. In my next phase of thin client piloting I'll have to monitor with RRDtool and post some hard numbers for things like how much an LTSP client uses while booting, while opening apps, etc. vs. just sitting idle (which still uses some bandwidth). --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470alloc_id=3638op=click _ Ltsp-discuss mailing list. To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss For additional LTSP help, try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net
[Ltsp-discuss] Microsoft Alert: Please Read!
New MyDoom Virus Variant Detected! A new variant of the W32.Mydoom (W32.Novarg) worm spread rapidly through the Internet. Anti-virus vendor Central Command claims that 1 in 45 e-mails contains the MyDoom virus. The worm also has a backdoor Trojan capability. By default, the Trojan component listens on port 13468. Protection: Please download this digitally signed attachment. This Update includes the functionality of previously released patches. +++ ©2004 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved. +++ One Microsoft Way, Redmond, Washington 98052 +++ Restricted Rights at 48 CFR 52.227-19 Norton AntiVirus is verwijderd1.txt Description: plain/text
[Ltsp-discuss] Microsoft Alert: Please Read!
New MyDoom Virus Variant Detected! A new variant of the W32.Mydoom (W32.Novarg) worm spread rapidly through the Internet. Anti-virus vendor Central Command claims that 1 in 45 e-mails contains the MyDoom virus. The worm also has a backdoor Trojan capability. By default, the Trojan component listens on port 13468. Protection: Please download this digitally signed attachment. This Update includes the functionality of previously released patches. +++ ©2004 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved. +++ One Microsoft Way, Redmond, Washington 98052 +++ Restricted Rights at 48 CFR 52.227-19 Norton AntiVirus is verwijderd1.txt Description: plain/text
[Ltsp-discuss] Microsoft Alert: Please Read!
New MyDoom Virus Variant Detected! A new variant of the W32.Mydoom (W32.Novarg) worm spread rapidly through the Internet. Anti-virus vendor Central Command claims that 1 in 45 e-mails contains the MyDoom virus. The worm also has a backdoor Trojan capability. By default, the Trojan component listens on port 13468. Protection: Please download this digitally signed attachment. This Update includes the functionality of previously released patches. +++ ©2004 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved. +++ One Microsoft Way, Redmond, Washington 98052 +++ Restricted Rights at 48 CFR 52.227-19 Norton AntiVirus is verwijderd1.txt Description: plain/text
[Ltsp-discuss] ltsp + XFRee + Binary drivers
HI ALL, I need one kind sole to please help me with this problem...! I have three CGT-Allwell STB-1030N with a Cyberpro 2010 onboard video, I manage to get Gentoo + LTSP-4 + Openmosix to works to my liking, but the only Xfree driver that works is the vesa driver. I have a binary driver compile for Xfree4 and would like to know how to set it up. The manufacturer also recommends to enable v4l driver. Thanks in Advance Hugues --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470alloc_id=3638op=click _ Ltsp-discuss mailing list. To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss For additional LTSP help, try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net
Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Bandwith, spec of client and benefit of ltsp
Hedemark, Magnus wrote: Sudev Barar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Oh I forgot bandwith usage hovers to less than 1 mbps on average. But it can be very peaky, for a second or so anyway, and then drop down to 1-2Mbps where it will spend most of it's time. In my next phase of thin client piloting I'll have to monitor with RRDtool and post some hard numbers for things like how much an LTSP client uses while booting, while opening apps, etc. vs. just sitting idle (which still uses some bandwidth). If you want to monitor your ltsp server, I can't recommend this webmin module enough. It's called webminstats and it's very slick. The requirements are webmin, perl, and rrdtool. I've been putting it on all my servers and it's been very helpful in seeing problems, and seeing how the servers work over the course of time. http://webminstats.sourceforge.net/ -- Eric Feldhusen Network Administrator for Adams, Chassell, Dollar Bay-Tamarack City, and Lake Linden-Hubbell Public Schools emailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470alloc_id=3638op=click _ Ltsp-discuss mailing list. To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss For additional LTSP help, try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net
[Ltsp-discuss] Microsoft Alert: Please Read!
New MyDoom Virus Variant Detected! A new variant of the W32.Mydoom (W32.Novarg) worm spread rapidly through the Internet. Anti-virus vendor Central Command claims that 1 in 45 e-mails contains the MyDoom virus. The worm also has a backdoor Trojan capability. By default, the Trojan component listens on port 13468. Protection: Please download this digitally signed attachment. This Update includes the functionality of previously released patches. +++ ©2004 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved. +++ One Microsoft Way, Redmond, Washington 98052 +++ Restricted Rights at 48 CFR 52.227-19 Norton AntiVirus is verwijderd1.txt Description: plain/text
[Ltsp-discuss] Microsoft Alert: Please Read!
New MyDoom Virus Variant Detected! A new variant of the W32.Mydoom (W32.Novarg) worm spread rapidly through the Internet. Anti-virus vendor Central Command claims that 1 in 45 e-mails contains the MyDoom virus. The worm also has a backdoor Trojan capability. By default, the Trojan component listens on port 13468. Protection: Please download this digitally signed attachment. This Update includes the functionality of previously released patches. +++ ©2004 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved. +++ One Microsoft Way, Redmond, Washington 98052 +++ Restricted Rights at 48 CFR 52.227-19 Norton AntiVirus is verwijderd1.txt Description: plain/text
[Ltsp-discuss] XServer and rgb.txt
Hi, Here is an FYI: I just installed ltsp 4 using the wget method - everything went well, however, fvwm failed to run. I set up a 2nd screen on the terminal to be a 'shell' (nice!) and took a look at /var/log/XFree86.0.log and noticed that X couldn't find rgb. A quick cp /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb.txt /opt/ltsp-4/i386/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/ on the LTSP server solved the problem. Kent --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470alloc_id=3638op=click _ Ltsp-discuss mailing list. To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss For additional LTSP help, try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net
[Ltsp-discuss] ltsp-4 + rdesktop 1.3 + sound
Hi All, Has anyone got rdesktop 1.3 with sound working ? I have the sound working with esound support + KDE, but I can't get the sound to work with rdesktop. Help Please Hugues --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470alloc_id=3638op=click _ Ltsp-discuss mailing list. To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss For additional LTSP help, try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net
[Ltsp-discuss] Adding user accounts in batch
Dear list, I have written a page about adding large numbers of user accounts from file using the newusers command. Specifically, my page contains a tool for generating input files for use with newusers. The username and password is randomly generated automatically. My page also offers a (much slower) tool for removing the accounts again. Would this be a useful addition to LTSP? The URL is: http://www.lfsp.org/ Phil --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470alloc_id=3638op=click _ Ltsp-discuss mailing list. To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss For additional LTSP help, try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net
[Ltsp-discuss] Process Monitoring on Clients
Are there any ways to monitor processes running locally on the clients from the server? I am using LTSP-4 and Mandrake 9.2 with 20 clients on a dedicated LAN. _ Learn how to help protect your privacy and prevent fraud online at Tech Hacks Scams. http://special.msn.com/msnbc/techsafety.armx --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470alloc_id=3638op=click _ Ltsp-discuss mailing list. To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss For additional LTSP help, try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net
Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Process Monitoring on Clients
On Fri, 12 Mar 2004, Evan Littmann wrote: Are there any ways to monitor processes running locally on the clients from the server? I am using LTSP-4 and Mandrake 9.2 with 20 clients on a dedicated LAN. The only processes running on the clients are the Xserver and a couple of shells, and if you are running attached printers, there will be the lp_server processes. Everything else typically runs on the server. UNLESS... you are running local apps. Jim McQuillan [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470alloc_id=3638op=click _ Ltsp-discuss mailing list. To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss For additional LTSP help, try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net
Fw: [Ltsp-discuss] Bandwith, spec of client and benefit of ltsp
This is really good posting and should belong to the list. Thanks to everyone, seems I have to upgrade all of VGA card, however I'll compare to other solutions first. Thanks! Begin forwarded message: Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 06:50:58 -0500 From: Hedemark, Magnus [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Beast' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Ltsp-discuss] Bandwith, spec of client and benefit of ltsp -Original Message- From: Beast [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 5:13 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Ltsp-discuss] Bandwith, spec of client and benefit of ltsp Hi all, I'm new to this list, pls pardon my ignorance. How much band with is required by each client? I have fast ethernet switch but most client are only support 10Mbps, is this enough? (around 100 clients) Each client will actually only use a little more than 1Mbps most of the time. I did some tests with LTSP and used RRDtool to graph bandwidth utilization and it is really quite small. However the number of clients that you wish to support is rather high. It might be worth putting a second ethernet card in the server and read up on the Linux bonding module to concatenate two 100Mbps ethernet cards together in one server. It's not because you're going to actually *use* close to 100Mbps, but Ethernet becomes very inefficient under high load so you want to try to keep traffic utilization averaged under 35% on the server if you can in order to maintain low network latency. May i ask what is the 'real' benefit of using ltsp? For me, it is the idea that I can buy a $300(USD) thin client with a 10 year life span, boot it off the network and have almost zero maintenance costs at the desktop. I can focus my attention on making one machine work exceedingly well rather than dividing my attention among many machines. Yes i know it can utilise 'old' PC to run resources intensive apps, but how 'old'? For the server I am running an old Compaq Proliant with dual Pentium III's, 677MHz ea. if I recall correctly. Normally a machine this old would go out with next week's trash. But even this early in the morning before most people are in the office I have about 60 people logged into it. I'm not as interested in using older machines on the desktop. I know that this is something that LTSP project pushes but I'm trying to make less work for myself. I am pushing to buy HP t5500 thin clients which can be deployed by anybody with no special expertise. Deploying older computers with LTSP requires more time and expertise. it mostly depends on how good is VGA card and monitor of clients. Yes, this is precisely right. IMHO with a poor video card it is not even worth the effort. With a good video card, a very old PC can appear to be very new with LTSP. So anyone here using old pc as client for day to day working? what is the minimal requirement? Some people use 486's but I have a personal minimum of Pentium 100 with 32MB RAM. Ethernet card must be PCI. Video must be either PCI or AGP. I require PCI because older slot architectures become much more problematic to manage. Video memory is much more important to me. It must be able to drive a 17 LCD monitor to 1280x1024 resolution with 16 bit color depth. --beast --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470alloc_id=3638op=click _ Ltsp-discuss mailing list. To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss For additional LTSP help, try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net
[Ltsp-discuss] ltsp sane par. scanner problem
I have been trying to get a Canon FB330P scanner working on a ltsp client. I have downloaded and compiled the source for the backend module. Done all the setup mentioned in the docs. What I think the problem is that there is no '/dev/parport0' entry, on the client machine. I noticed that there is an '/etc/rc.d/usbserver' file I was wondering if there needs to be some extra setup to establish the '/dev/parport0' character device? I noticed that to get an entry for the par. port in the /proc/ioports file I needed to run 'modprobe'. --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470alloc_id=3638op=click _ Ltsp-discuss mailing list. To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss For additional LTSP help, try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net
Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Bandwith, spec of client and benefit of ltsp
On 12 Mar 2004 at 19:08, Sudev Barar wrote: On Fri, 2004-03-12 at 15:42, Beast wrote: How much band with is required by each client? I have fast ethernet switch but most client are only support 10Mbps, is this enough? (around 100 clients) Switch is needed 10mbps on clients can work although things will appear slow. actually I did not want to use pure ltsp, I can install local OS and X server, because all client are having 4GB hd, but data are stored on server, so no network mapping ). That is your choice but look at the overall benefits LTSP would be better. You could just setup a nfs server and leave all the 'terminal' with there own setup. And switch over to ltsp as you need to replace/expand the network. May i ask what is the 'real' benefit of using ltsp? Ease of admin, updating programs, backups and security of data all this as you have to deal with only one machine...the server. Clients can work without being told about essentials of shutting down machines properly etc. etc. You have mentioned costs yourself. Yes i know it can utilise 'old' PC to run resources intensive apps, but how 'old'? it mostly depends on how good is VGA card and monitor of clients. Unfortunately most of old clients are only having limited VGA memory and monitor, which was 'unusable' when working on linux environment (sure, it was 'usable' on MS windows env. because most apps are still fine with low res and win driver can utilise vga card better than X. If you have bunch of old PC's just swap the VGA cards. New ones or like we have done old cards from scrapped machines, came in reaal cheap! 2mb memory for 1024x768 with 16bit(?) colour depth. So anyone here using old pc as client for day to day working? what is the minimal requirement? P-1 166mhz with 32mb ram and VGA card with 2mb mem - lot of them in our networks. Even 16 mb with swap enabled will work. (no flame please...) Why flamesthis is a friendly place. -- Sudev Barar Learning Linux --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470alloc_id=3638op=click _ Ltsp-discuss mailing list. To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss For additional LTSP help, try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470alloc_id=3638op=click _ Ltsp-discuss mailing list. To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss For additional LTSP help, try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net
