[luau] Re: CJK Input (Limbo 2 Gone from Mirrors)
Thanks Ray. Would you be able to show me how to input and print CJK characters in vim? I'm sorry, but I don't really know how. At one point I was playing XIM (X Input Method), but I never really learned exactly how to set everything up. I'll tell you what I do know. Vim supports XIM, so if you can get CJK character input to work for any other XIM application then the same method should work for Vim. XIM requires what's called an input server. Examples of input servers are kinput2, xwnmo (Japanese), and xcin (Simplified and Traditional Chinese). There are four different methods of input using XIM: on the spot, over the spot, off the spot, and root window. Mozilla has a nice document that says the differences between those: http://www.mozilla.org/projects/intl/input-method-spec.html Vim only supports over the spot, off the spot, and root window. When you run your input server, you'll need to be in the correct locale and have the correct fonts installed. You can find out what locale's your system supports by typing "locale -a". For instance, simplified chinese is zh_CN and japanese is ja_JP. You have to tell X Windows which input server you are using. You can do by settings the XMODIFIERS environment variable or by adding a line to your ~/.Xdefaults file. eg. type: export [EMAIL PROTECTED] or add *.inputMethod: kinput2 to your ~/.Xdefaults file Most input servers allow you to activate them by pressing shift-space or ctrl-space. Last note, make sure you have a version of vim installed that supports multibyte characters and xim, if you type :version then you should see +multi_byte and +xim somewhere in the list of things. That's about all I can think of off the top of my head. I don't speak anything but English (well and a Spanish 101 level of Spanish). You might try search google, or looking through the vim help files... (vim has excellecent documentation). I would try something like :help xim or something. With vim, if you see something of the form |Topic| (like a word in vertical bars), you can use the arrows (or j, k, l, and h) to move your cursor to the word and then press CTRL-], to jump to that specific topic. CTRL-o will bring you back to where you were. --Ray
[luau] PowerPoint Alternative
Actually, I might have found a very interesting alternative. This thought is to use the "tab" feature of Mozilla. I can pre-load all the "slides" into corresponding tabs. For a long talk, I can further sort related tabs into seperate window. One problem, I don't know how to switch (w/o using a mouse) between tabs/windows. Preparing the HTML documents is not a problem; there are plenty of tools. But putting them together so that they can be presented in an orderly fashion is the problem. As George mentioned, gqview would do a very good job, but it lacks the flexibility of switching between non-contiguous slides. With HTML/Mozilla, of course, you can embed animations, sound, and hyperlinks. The last feature is important if I want to show a document in pdf format.
Re: [luau] PowerPoint Alternative
But basically, I want to create an HTML file, with which I can control/confine each "slide" within a screen, use the page-down key to move from one slide/screen to the next, and quickly jump from one slide/screen to another. Is this possible? Well, I think you might have to do some manual JavaScript editing to get the page-down effect to work, but you can always write your documents in LaTeX and convert them to html slides. Alternatively, if you are willing to do PDF (which most computers have readers for), there are a lot of options (and you get your page-down functionality for free). A quick search of google produced this page: http://www.miwie.org/presentations/presentations.html --Ray
RE: [luau] PowerPoint Alternative
> PowerPoint has a lot of limitations. (You can see that, b/c Microsoft > > has no competition, it really slacks further development effort. This > > is the weakness of a monopolistic monster.) True. What is also true is that a BIG company will have more resources and the 'monies' to fund R&D far more than what a small company can do. Hence, you can get a better product - ever took a business class? Big companies (presently) will not make a product and not develop it further - just because there is no competition. There is the consumer that they need to sell it too, they will develop it further if no one buys their stuff or there are tools that need to be added. You never seen products that didn't need much development because they already suited the need?? Common man, this kind of attitude is what really screws businesses up. MS a monopoly boohoo, dude without MS you would never be running that 1GHZ system! You will never have seen the hardware/application tech explosion you see currently! While I agree with Warren that they do have unfair practices, ALL YOU LINUX GUYS SHOULD BE THANKFUL FOR MS! Think about it! MS lets ppl complete their jobs by allowing thousands of apps/hardware to be created and utilized. Linux is soo way behind (while linux gurus are slowly developing a better apps etc.. you got guys on MS that are mastering the app's skills they need to do their job) Yes Linux may be a better built OS but MS is a much better USED OS; to regular users not gurus like MonMotha perhaps. People who need to get things done use MS. Live in New York for awhile, technology is a tool to get businesses running. Linux rocks and so does MS. Sorry? Randall
Re: [luau] Limbo 2 Gone from Mirrors
W. Wayne Liauh wrote: ... Almost every Linux guru I know has his/her own custom system. All my clients who have anything to do with Linux always customize their own Linux kernel. Is this an unspoken sina quo non or what? :-) Compiling and installing a new kernel is not the main problem. The difficult part is, essentially every major distro has its customized kernel. And if their patches are not incorporated by Marcelo, the 18-year Brazilian > wonder kid who is now in charge of the stable kernel, then there may be some unknown consequences. The distributions try to not make their userspace dependent upon these patches, or at least make it so that the userspace components will gracefully handle the non-presence of them. They know that Linux systems are customizable, and to make it impossible or overly difficult to drop in a custom kernel would alienate a large portion of their userbase. --MonMotha
Re: [luau] PowerPoint Alternative
On Wed, 21 Aug 2002 07:40:24 -1000 "W. Wayne Liauh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Perhaps a better question that should have been posted is, Does anyone > > know how to make "presentation quality" HTML files, i.e., to prepare a > > HTML file that can be used in presentations? > > PowerPoint has a lot of limitations. (You can see that, b/c Microsoft > > has no competition, it really slacks further development effort. This > > is the weakness of a monopolistic monster.) However, this is not my > point. > > Ideally, I would like to use my Linux notebook during my talk. > However, it may not work (and in all my cases, has not worked) with > the projector provided by the host. (b/f I go further, does anyone > know how to solve this problem?) > > Unless I am willing to do a dual-boot, in which case I can use > WordPerfect's Presentation which actually does a better job than > PowerPoint, I must give the file which contains my talk to the host, > and let them run the show for me. An HTML file is probably the only > option, if I don't (and I won't) yield to their request of giving them > a PowerPoint file. > > Don't know whether my above thoughts made any sense. But basically, I > > want to create an HTML file, with which I can control/confine each > "slide" within a screen, use the page-down key to move from one > slide/screen to the next, and quickly jump from one slide/screen to > another. Is this possible? > Wayne, This is starting to get a little frustrating, sorry but it is starting to look like you are looking for problems instead of solutions. OpenOffice presentation builder will probably do everything you want, handle powerpoint files in and out, generate its own format slide presentation, and if you want a html slide show, it will do that also. -- Gary 4:17pm up 5 days, 20:27, 3 users, load average: 0.00, 0.07, 0.07 --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus]
Re: [luau] PowerPoint Alternative
I did my presentation using "gqview" and I worked the slides up in "gimp" It worked very nicely and gave me great control over the presentation. What's nice abut "gqview" is that it has a full screen mode so your slides look really nice, and you can click them ahead at your own pace, or you could even have it move ahead by itself if you actually wanted it that way. "W. Wayne Liauh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[luau] PowerPoint Alternative
the projector accepts the standard vga output on your laptop (if you have one), then I am confused about the problem. If the projector accepts only s-video or standard rca jacks, then I could see a problem directing your video output to one of those interfaces whilst in Linux.> That Linux would boot up OK, but then lost its screen when it went into the X graphic mode. Now I come to think about this. Perhaps what happened was that I was running 1028x768 mode but the projector only accepted 800x600.
[luau] Limbo 2 Gone from Mirrors
beta samba comes with acl support too. AFAIK, canonical kernel sources don't come with the acl patch yet, so there is a good example of a patch that should be applied if you go custom. --Ray> Thanks Ray. Would you be able to show me how to input and print CJK characters in vim?
Re: [luau] PowerPoint Alternative
On Wednesday 21 August 2002 07:40, you wrote: > Ideally, I would like to use my Linux notebook during my talk. However, > it may not work (and in all my cases, has not worked) with the projector > provided by the host. (b/f I go further, does anyone know how to solve > this problem?) I have to wonder why you can't use StarOffice 6 for your presentations. If the projector accepts the standard vga output on your laptop (if you have one), then I am confused about the problem. If the projector accepts only s-video or standard rca jacks, then I could see a problem directing your video output to one of those interfaces whilst in Linux. > > Don't know whether my above thoughts made any sense. But basically, I > want to create an HTML file, with which I can control/confine each > "slide" within a screen, use the page-down key to move from one > slide/screen to the next, and quickly jump from one slide/screen to > another. Is this possible? I haven't checked yet, but I wonder if StarOffice can save presentations as html files like ppoint does. scott > > ___ > LUAU mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau
[luau] PowerPoint Alternative
Perhaps a better question that should have been posted is, Does anyone know how to make "presentation quality" HTML files, i.e., to prepare a HTML file that can be used in presentations? PowerPoint has a lot of limitations. (You can see that, b/c Microsoft has no competition, it really slacks further development effort. This is the weakness of a monopolistic monster.) However, this is not my point. Ideally, I would like to use my Linux notebook during my talk. However, it may not work (and in all my cases, has not worked) with the projector provided by the host. (b/f I go further, does anyone know how to solve this problem?) Unless I am willing to do a dual-boot, in which case I can use WordPerfect's Presentation which actually does a better job than PowerPoint, I must give the file which contains my talk to the host, and let them run the show for me. An HTML file is probably the only option, if I don't (and I won't) yield to their request of giving them a PowerPoint file. Don't know whether my above thoughts made any sense. But basically, I want to create an HTML file, with which I can control/confine each "slide" within a screen, use the page-down key to move from one slide/screen to the next, and quickly jump from one slide/screen to another. Is this possible?
RE: [luau] PowerPoint Alternative
Star Office comes with an alternative to PowerPoint doesn't it ? And i thought i saw something once called KPresenter (not sure on this one so) Florian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of W. Wayne Liauh Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 12:45 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [luau] PowerPoint Alternative I am sure many of us were mightly pissed off every time we were giving a talk. We were always asked to submit a "PowerPoint" file. (A friend of mine who teaches at Univ. of Waterloo recently told me that all the comp sci majors have to take a couple of courses of C# before they can graduate, b/c Microsoft just donated $2.1 million to the school. That REALLY pissed me off!) In the past, I have been (not always successful) able to use html files, generated by the vanilla Netscape composer, to give my talks. Does anyone know any other alternative(s)? Or any better way to utilize Netscape? ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau
Re: [luau] PowerPoint Alternative
On Tue, 20 Aug 2002 19:44:41 -1000 "W. Wayne Liauh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am sure many of us were mightly pissed off every time we were > giving a talk. We were always asked to submit a "PowerPoint" file. > (A friend of mine who teaches at Univ. of Waterloo recently told me > that all the comp sci majors have to take a couple of courses of C# > before they can graduate, b/c Microsoft just donated $2.1 million to > the school. That REALLY pissed me off!) > > In the past, I have been (not always successful) able to use html > files, generated > by the vanilla Netscape composer, to give my talks. > > Does anyone know any other alternative(s)? Or any better way to > utilize Netscape? > Yes, the presentation builder portion of OpenOffice/StarOffice, but I am sure you know that from your Word Perfect OpenOffice/StarOffice comparative evaluations. -- Gary 8:24am up 5 days, 12:35, 3 users, load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.01 --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus]
