Re: [LUAU] more participation

2006-02-28 Thread Brian Chee
given enough time to plan and if I'm not on travel...I'd be happy to host
sessions at ANCL, especially if you folks want a network lab environment.

Right now it's in a shambles after moving and it will take a while to get
organizedbut I could easily see hosting stuff in the future.

/brian chee

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- Original Message - 
From: Vince Hoang [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: luau@lists.hosef.org
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 10:34 AM
Subject: [LUAU] more participation


 LUAU as a traditional LUG predates me. From what I can gather,
 HOSEF and old LUAU issues stemmed from personality issues and
 lots of empty promises. If we forget about what we should do
 and focus on what we will do, then we can move past all the
 past nonsense.

 Julian is looking for presenters and topics for the monthly Open
 Source Pizza events.

 Matt is looking for a venue for an Asterisk meetup. Lots of folks
 brought up McKinley, which I think it is a great fit.

 -Vince
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Re: [LUAU] LUAU history and more participation

2006-02-28 Thread Gary Sublett
On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 13:18:53 -1000
Julian Yap [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[snip] 
 
 I have attempted to write up a LUAU history:
 http://www.hosef.org/wiki/LUAU_history
 
 Please add any comments/corrections to myself, this list or to the
 page's Discussion section.  Or better yet, edit the Wiki! :P  This
 should be backed up by evidence as I personally wanted to keep it free
 from hearsay as best I could.  I'd like to also add a picture of the
 MPLUG days but couldn't find one.
 
[snip]

From the referenced LUAU_history:

While not going on the record, it has been reported by a source that at
some point money had some adverse effect on the group, and the list and
LUG died.

In the spirit of wanting to keep it free from hearsay as best I could
what is the source and context of this entry in the history?  As you
might suspect, I believe the entry is hearsay, based on ignorance, and
should be removed.

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Gary


Re: [LUAU] LUAU history and more participation

2006-02-28 Thread Julian Yap
On Tue, 2006-02-28 at 22:39 -0500, Gary Sublett wrote:
 On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 13:18:53 -1000
 Julian Yap [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 [snip] 
  
  I have attempted to write up a LUAU history:
  http://www.hosef.org/wiki/LUAU_history
  
  Please add any comments/corrections to myself, this list or to the
  page's Discussion section.  Or better yet, edit the Wiki! :P  This
  should be backed up by evidence as I personally wanted to keep it free
  from hearsay as best I could.  I'd like to also add a picture of the
  MPLUG days but couldn't find one.
  
 [snip]
 
 From the referenced LUAU_history:
 
 While not going on the record, it has been reported by a source that at
 some point money had some adverse effect on the group, and the list and
 LUG died.
 
 In the spirit of wanting to keep it free from hearsay as best I could
 what is the source and context of this entry in the history?  As you
 might suspect, I believe the entry is hearsay, based on ignorance, and
 should be removed.

Thank you for reading, Gary.

I will look for and surely find evidence to back this up.  As it was, I
didn't want to delve too deeply into the negative and tumultuous times
of LUAU so I left it as this simple one sentence paragraph.  It will be
revised.

- Julian

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[LUAU] Free Niagara Server (60-day trial)

2006-02-28 Thread Hawaii Linux Institute
A friend of mind sent me this news about a free Niagara server (in 
Japanese) and asked if anyone has (or knows anyone who has) any experience:


http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/jonathanja?entry=free_server_v2_0_honest


Wayne


Re: [LUAU] Free Niagara Server (60-day trial)

2006-02-28 Thread Michael Bishop
Original in English: http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/jonathan? 
entry=niagara_benchmarks


Amazing to see his blog is being translated into other languages,  
like Japanese. I wonder what other languages his blog is translated  
into.


Quite bold are his statements. ...we'll send you the fastest server  
on earth, absolutely free. If you don't like it, we'll send someone  
to pick it up [for free].


The comments are more interesting (to me) then the offer. I'm  
surprised they let those stand.


Michael


On Feb 28, 2006, at 10:19 PM, Hawaii Linux Institute wrote:

A friend of mind sent me this news about a free Niagara server (in  
Japanese) and asked if anyone has (or knows anyone who has) any  
experience:


http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/jonathanja? 
entry=free_server_v2_0_honest



Wayne
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Re: [LUAU] Free Niagara Server (60-day trial)

2006-02-28 Thread Julian Yap
On Tue, 2006-02-28 at 22:19 -1000, Hawaii Linux Institute wrote:
 A friend of mind sent me this news about a free Niagara server (in 
 Japanese) and asked if anyone has (or knows anyone who has) any experience:
 
 http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/jonathanja?entry=free_server_v2_0_honest

Wayne,

I'm not sure if you know this already but Jonathan Schwartz is the
current CEO (or CTO/CIO/COO whatever) of Sun Microsystems.  The link you
sent looks like they hire translators and is on a post time delay.

His official English blog is: http://blogs.sun.com/jonathan

English entry of post:
http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/jonathan?entry=niagara_benchmarks

I've been following his blog for a while.  Mostly because it comes from
the viewpoint of a Sun executive.  And on occasion he has something to
interesting to say.

But yes.  The offer sounds legitimate.  But no, I don't know anyone who
has had any experience.  There are however online testimonials and they
encourage that because if you write a blog that fairly assesses the
machine's performance (positively or negatively), send us a pointer,
we're likely to let you keep the machine.

You mentioned you were going to be at the Open Source Pizza last Tuesday
but you weren't there so I didn't talk to you about what you had in mind
for your OpenSuSE/OpenSolaris/OpenOffice study group.

Maybe you can elaborate more on list in regards to OpenSolaris on list
to see if others are interested?

Having administered previously Solaris/AIX/HPUX/Digital/QNX Unixes (
Linux), I'm not really sure I understand going forward what the
advantages are for OpenSolaris vs. Linux.

If they are purely technical/engineering reasons, I believe the
developer momentum behind Linux outweighs that.

- Julian