Re: [LUAU] does computer guts program still exist?

[Michael Bishop]

I believe Computer Guts was run exclusively by Scott Belford. Though I'm not
sure.

It was run out at the Boys & Girls club at one time. Maybe someone has
continued it? You could call them and check it out.

As far as I know his program was unique.

M


On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 9:18 PM, Dave Burns  wrote:

> Web page looks like nothing has happened since 2006. I wanted to
> recommend it to someone. Does computer guts still exist, or anything
> remotely like it?
> mahalo,
> Dave
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Re: [LUAU] RSync help

[Michael Bishop]

Aloha Jim,

Can you show us the command you are running and the output with 2 and 3 V's
like rsync -vvvaz SOURCE TARGET. The more V's you add the more verbose the
output. Usually the reason can be determined with 2 or 3 V's of output.

I think the remote server should be running as nobody because access will be
granted to the user which provides the right credentials. There's no good
reason I can think of where it should be running as root or another user.

Happy New Year!!
M



On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 11:07 PM, James Handsel  wrote:

>
>  ___
>
>>1.   RSync help (James Handsel)
>>2. Re: RSync help (Brian Chee)
>>3. Re: RSync help (Clifton Royston)
>>4. Re: RSync help (Vince Hoang)
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>
> Brian, Clifton & Vince . . .
>
> Thanks for your responses.  I'm running rsync thru an ssh tunnel,
> connecting as root, initiating from the remote server. but for some reason
> the rsync session seems to be running as "nobody" on the office server.
>
> Bear with me for a day or two and I'll post everything.
>
> Thanks again . . . Jim
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Re: [LUAU] Favorite SATA or PATA RAID controllers

[Michael Bishop]

When it comes to PATA and SATA, in my opinion, 3ware is still the  
best. Especially cross platform. Linux/Windows support is excellent.


On Feb 10, 2010, at 1:50 PM, Brian Chee  wrote:

Yah know...that's been my knee jerk reaction for almost a decade  
now...but
was trying to leave options open in case folks have run across  
something

else worth the time.

Very interesting considering that they're now owned by LSI...

/brian chee



On 2/10/10 1:43 PM, "Vince Hoang"  wrote:


Are there options besides 3ware?


-Vince

On Feb 10, 2010, at 12:22, Brian

Chee  wrote:



I need to mirror (RAID 1) and was wondering
about the collective
option on
PCI RAID controllers

These are
going into 1RU SuperMicro machines that tend to run
hotso that
is a
bit of a consideration. I’d like to use the same RAID controlle
r for

both Windows 2003 Server AND Debian Linux both...

/brian chee

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Re: [LUAU] PFOSSCON 2010 & Unconferenz

[Michael Bishop]

I went to one 2 years ago out in Hawaii Kai. It was awesome! Its an  
open format community conference which encourages participation. I  
learned a lot just listening to the lively conversation. Hope it'll be  
just as good this time. Be sure to put on your networking cap, lots of  
people to meet and make friends with. Be sure to look me up if go.


On Jan 11, 2010, at 10:37 PM, Jason Axelson   
wrote:



Hi Michael,

I'm currently undecided. Have you or anyone else gone to an
unconferenz hosted by them?

Jason

On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 6:01 AM, Michael Bishop
 wrote:
I see on the HOSEF calendar PFOSSCON 2010 listed for Jan 15-17, but  
I can't

find any details. Am I on the wrong list?

Anyone going to the Unconferenz next month?
http://www.unconferenz.com/

*Date:* February 20, 2010, Saturday
*Time:* 8:00am to 4:00pm
*Place:* Kapiolani Community College
4303 Diamond Head Rd
Honolulu, HI 96816

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[LUAU] PFOSSCON 2010 & Unconferenz

[Michael Bishop]

I see on the HOSEF calendar PFOSSCON 2010 listed for Jan 15-17, but I can't
find any details. Am I on the wrong list?

Anyone going to the Unconferenz next month?
http://www.unconferenz.com/

*Date:* February 20, 2010, Saturday
*Time:* 8:00am to 4:00pm
*Place:* Kapiolani Community College
4303 Diamond Head Rd
Honolulu, HI 96816

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Re: [LUAU] yes...was Re: Is this list still alive...

[Michael Bishop]

Jim Roby wrote:


All attempts to right the Windows distro failed and I then decided to 
give the entire disk to Ubuantu.Now we have a boot menu that boots 
Ubuantu but still points to the non existant Win2K...it just yields an 
error message and you can go back to boot the working OS. I would like 
to wipe the menu which now doesn't look pro,but reading I see there is 
no uninstall of Grub...man pages say to over write it.
Is this safe? And how should I go about it?  fdisk /mbr or something 
like that? Should I make a boot floppy first? machine has a floppy drive.
A boot loader (like Grub) is needed (just like Windows), but in Linux 
it's more visible. If you don't need the extra space, then I would just 
remove the Win2K option from grub. Open a terminal and:


sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst

Scroll down to the bottom and comment out the Win2K line by putting a # 
before the 4 lines associated with Win2K. It may look something like this:


# title Windows 95/98/NT/2000
# root  (hd0,0)
# makeactive
# chainloader   +1

You can hide the grub menu on boot. There may be a hiddenmenu line that 
is commented out, just remove the # from before it.


As a final note, you may want to consider installing the latest version 
of Ubuntu, Hardy Heron. So far it appears to be the great distro they've 
created.


Good luck.

Michael



David Kiwerski wrote:

Seems so, but not very active presently.


Al Plant wrote:

Is the Luau list still alive?

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[LUAU] MySQL and other SQL Engines

[Michael Bishop]

http://jcole.us/blog/archives/2008/04/14/just-announced-mysql-to-launch-new-features-only-in-mysql-enterprise/
http://www.mysqlperformanceblog.com/2008/04/15/partially-opensourced/

Regarding Sun's latest experiment: MySQL. I'm not so sure they are 
trying to learn from MySQL as much as trying to push the limit of how 
much money they can make off of open source without enraging the users.

What do you think?

Either way, it's the push I need to check out alternatives:

http://www.postgresql.org/
http://www.firebirdsql.org/
http://www.sqlite.org/

At PyCon it seemed to me that PostgreSQL was the choice of many core 
project developers. With outstanding DB toolkits like SQLAlchemy. It 
should be fairly painless to move to other SQL engines with proper planning.

Any suggestions for good resources about PostgreSQL performance tuning 
and best practices?

Michael
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Re: [LUAU] Open Source PIzza - Tonight! - Python 3000, Pycon 2008 and Django

[Michael Bishop]

I'll also be giving away some nice swag (shirt, poster, bag, stickers, 
pen & balsa flyer) from the conf. It'll be a drawing at the end.

Michael


Ron Fox wrote:
> Sorry, first forwarded message didn't like the attachment.
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 10:23:43 -1000
> From: Ronald Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Pizza Announce LIst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [Pizza-announce] Open Source PIzza - 15 April 2008 - Python 3000,
>  Pycon 2008 and Django
>
>  --==[ PyCon 2008, Python 3000 & Django ]==--
>
> Info: Tue, 15 April 2008 from 6:00 - 7:30 pm - University of Hawaii,
> Manoa Campus, Marine Sciences Building Auditorium, Room# 114 - $8 for
> pizza and soft drink (optional)
>
> Note: We will start promptly at 6:00pm with introductory material and a
> Q&A session
>
> Speaker: Michael Bishop
>
> Bio: Michael is a lifelong student of technology and Free/Open Source
> Software
>
> Presentation: Michael just returned from PyCon 2008 held in Chicago and
> says that there was so much going on there that he barely had time to
> sleep. He'll spend the first part of his presentation walking us through
> some of the best parts of the conference.  Then he'll be talking about
> Python 3000 -- what's the big deal, what we should expect and how to
> prepare.  Finally, he'll be showing off a bit of Python and Django - the
> Python web framework.
>
> For those of you who haven't been exposed to the programming language
> Python, this will be an excellent way to find out from a skilled
> educator how this simple (to learn and to maintain) yet powerful Object
> Oriented programming language can be easily and freely installed on
> Windows, Mac and Linux computers and help you to be more productive and
> have fun at the same time!
>
> Directions to the event:
> Take Dole Street Koko Head bound (East) and turn Mauka (toward the
> mountains) on East West Rd.  Take the first possible left turn onto an
> unnamed access road and park in Lot #11.  If there is a guard in the
> kiosk there, just mention that you're there to attend the "Open Source
> Pizza" presentation.
>
> A campus map can be found at http://manoa.hawaii.edu/map/uhmmap.pdf  The
> Marine Sciences Building and parking lot with Entrance Kiosk are at C4
> on that map.
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> For further infomation, please contact Ron Fox at 589-5172.
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Re: [LUAU] list "moderation"

[Michael Bishop]

Gary Sublett wrote:
> On Sat, 29 Mar 2008 06:11:29 -1000
> Michael Bishop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   
>> Gary Sublett wrote:
>> 
>>> On Sat, 29 Mar 2008 07:05:12 -0700
>>> "Vince Hoang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>   
>>>   
>>>> You just don't get it. I am not turning on emergency moderation.
>>>> Instead, I will remove both of you from LUAU until you settle your
>>>> differences. I do not begrudge either of you. I think you both want
>>>> what is best for HOSEF, but your strong personalities prevent you
>>>> from finding common ground.
>>>>
>>>> You idea of containment does not work in the Internet age. I tried
>>>> keeping this venue open in your defense. By closing off both
>>>> hosef-managers and LUAU, the disagreement will spill elsewhere, and
>>>> likely where you will not be able to retract the discussion.
>>>>
>>>> If any subscribers disagree, let me know.
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> I disagree, the threat of removing a subscriber from the list based
>>> on what?  
>>>   
>>>   
>> Off-topic material. Jim said Scott wouldn't allow his posts through
>> to HOSEF-manager where their thread belongs. So Jim took it to LUAU.
>> The posts seem to cover more HOSEF board related business and
>> personal issues rather than *nix related things.
>> 
>>> To protect someone from themself, seems rather paternalistic.
>>>   
>>>   
>> I see it more like protecting LUAU and the LUG. The most recent posts 
>> concern me greatly.
>> 
>>> To protect the integrity of the list or subject matter, seems
>>> inconsistant with the range of subjects or lack thereof over recent
>>> years.
>>>   
>>>   
>> Which has led to people leaving the list or becoming disgusted with 
>> LUAU/HOSEF. I think stronger moderation is in order. Especially with
>> the recent threats of lawsuits and personal information leaks.
>> 
>>> --
>>> Gary
>>>   
>
>  
> Michael,
>
> Vince asked for input from list members and I provided mine.
>   
I appreciate and respect your input. It provided a view point I may not 
have fully considered.
> If this threatened removal from the list is based on being "Off Topic",
> it is IMHO an inconsistant action in light of what has been allowed on
> the LUAU list over the last few years. For example, all the HOSEF
> specific promotion, solicitation, etc.  If you or other list members
> view all things HOSEF of interest/on topic/representative/a the face of
> the LUAU community, then I find it mis-guided to frame the current
> strife/activity of HOSEF (internal or external) as "Off Topic".
>   
I agree that LUAU's moderation has been inconsistent. However, since 
there has been little to no previous moderation, we should never 
moderate? Should another moderated list be created that focuses on LUG 
issues?

The sole reason HOSEF-managers was created was to remove HOSEF internal 
discussions from the LUAU list. Due to the censorship of HOSEF-manages, 
I agree with the current spillover, but this discussion has been going 
on for weeks. I think it's time to resolve it and/or move it off-list. I 
recall that long flame-wars have been forced off-list in the past and 
people have been banned IIRC. Linux Dan, as an example, comes to mind.
> You advocate stronger moderation, I disagree. Had there not been the
> reported "moderation" (censorship) on the HOSEF managers list would we
> be discussing this?
>   
I advocate stronger moderation on *this* list because I feel it should 
focus on LUG/*nix related stuff.

I disagree with any moderation of HOSEF-managers as I feel it should be 
an extension of the HOSEF meetings. I also feel the HOSEF-managers 
archives should be private.
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Re: [LUAU] list "moderation"

[Michael Bishop]

Gary Sublett wrote:
> On Sat, 29 Mar 2008 07:05:12 -0700
> "Vince Hoang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   
>> You just don't get it. I am not turning on emergency moderation.
>> Instead, I will remove both of you from LUAU until you settle your
>> differences. I do not begrudge either of you. I think you both want
>> what is best for HOSEF, but your strong personalities prevent you from
>> finding common ground.
>>
>> You idea of containment does not work in the Internet age. I tried
>> keeping this venue open in your defense. By closing off both
>> hosef-managers and LUAU, the disagreement will spill elsewhere, and
>> likely where you will not be able to retract the discussion.
>>
>> If any subscribers disagree, let me know.
>>
>> 
>
> I disagree, the threat of removing a subscriber from the list based on
> what?  
>   
Off-topic material. Jim said Scott wouldn't allow his posts through to 
HOSEF-manager where their thread belongs. So Jim took it to LUAU. The 
posts seem to cover more HOSEF board related business and personal 
issues rather than *nix related things.
> To protect someone from themself, seems rather paternalistic.
>   
I see it more like protecting LUAU and the LUG. The most recent posts 
concern me greatly.
> To protect the integrity of the list or subject matter, seems
> inconsistant with the range of subjects or lack thereof over recent
> years.
>   
Which has led to people leaving the list or becoming disgusted with 
LUAU/HOSEF. I think stronger moderation is in order. Especially with the 
recent threats of lawsuits and personal information leaks.
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[LUAU] HOSEF ?= LUG

[Michael Bishop]

After attending PyCon 2008 (which was awesome) and chatting up various 
people there, my view on LUGs and community groups has changed. Please 
allow me to share my thoughts and questions with you.

What ever happen to the local Linux Users Group (LUG)?

As I recall MPLUG (Mid Pacific Linux Users Group) was rolled into HOSEF 
to create a unified *nix group, or at least join forces, since at the 
time few people were interested. I know this is no longer the case, I 
think there are many people in Hawaii interested in *nix. I think the 
flame-fests and lack of LUG events have turned people off. I see fewer 
posts with *nix questions and more about infighting and power-plays. 
However, I think some good has come out of the latest batch of posts 
with regard to restructuring HOSEF. With that in mind...

I'm confused about the membership thing. To be a member of the local LUG 
(HOSEF), which advocates FOSS which is free, I must pay to be a member? 
I don't believe most LUGs require a cash donation to become a member.

If HOSEF is to continue to be the local LUG, I think it should start 
doing more LUG stuff or perhaps MPLUG should rise again. Warren still 
owns the domain and I think he might let us use it.

I think LUG membership should be determined by interest and/or 
attendance to meetings. For example, you can only become a member by 
attending and signing up at OpenSource Pizza, the monthly LUG meeting, 
or other LUG events. That way it gets the members and potential members 
interacting. I enjoyed getting together for Pizza after slugging 
computers around at PriceBusters.

The membership list should be used only to show that there is support in 
Hawaii. Right now I couldn't tell if there were 5 or 500 people in 
support of the Oahu LUG. I say Oahu, not Hawaii, LUG because there is a 
Big Island Linux Users Group [http://bilug.org/]. Not to exclude them, 
but point out there is a Big Island LUG, where is the Oahu LUG? [1] Why 
can't the HOSEF website say it's the local LUG? It looks like HOSEF, the 
foundation, gobbled up HOSEF, the LUG. I think the LUG part of HOSEF 
needs to be acknowledged more.

If HOSEF is the local LUG, why hasn't there been a hosef-announce post 
about the upcoming Shakacon? What about a calendar or ical feed from 
google? Maybe HOSEF should pay a director to keep this active?

As for money to fund to operations, I would rather attend OpenSource 
Pizza, chip in $10 for pizza and drinks, and HOSEF keep the change.

I would like to see an Unconference [2] at least once, if not twice, a 
year. It doesn't have to be a 3 day marathon. Just a single weekend day 
with some interesting talks and lunch. I found the Ruby talk and 
Funding, Act 221 talk at the 2008 Unconferenz [3] constructive, 
enlightening and informative. (Just to be clear the Unconferenz was not 
run by HOSEF) I'd happily fork over $30 for a good lunch, a shirt and 
the rest going to HOSEF. I'm sure this could somehow be hosted at UH or 
a Community College.

Maybe an Unconference and PFOSSCON could be the 2 main annual 
conferences. The Unconference being a local community event. PFOSSCON 
being a bigger deal with out-of-state speakers. I really liked the last 
PFOSSCON. Perhaps the "extra money" could bring big speakers to the 
islands. Or perhaps local sponsors could help fund it. Personally I'd 
love to see Guido or Linus come to the islands. Isn't there a famous guy 
from SANS that lives on the Big Island?

Money received should go to support hardware/hosting for the lists, 
website and mirror. The LUG should have direct control over the 
equipment. An individual should not be footing the bill or have supreme 
control over the operation of such.

As for eWaste, I think HOSEF, the foundation, should stop taking in 
computer trash for money and go back to a standards based approach. Only 
take in P3+, 19+ CRT, any LCD, servers, server parts and cool tech 
stuff. I think donations of money should be requested, not required, to 
cover the pickup costs and to perpetuate HOSEF. For businesses, broken 
stuff that's easily fixable should possibly require a donation for 
pickup because HOSEF would be providing a service that would otherwise 
have to be paid for. We don't want to become the free alternative to 
proper disposal. Every situation should be handled with care. I wouldn't 
turn away an 8-way server because the donator wouldn't pay to have it 
hauled away.

As for storage, each lab could have at least a little space for spares 
and if possible extra storage for HOSEF. Once the cache of spares at 
each school fills up, either dump the junker stuff or don't take the 
donation. Perhaps HOSEF can work with one of the local big storage 
companies to grant HOSEF some space for a set period of time (1 year+). 
Maybe to have small storage caches at strategic locations throughout the 
island.

For any excess computer equipment, how about a waiting list of people 
interested in R&D equipment. I recall one student wanting 4 co

Re: [LUAU] list "moderation"

[Michael Bishop]

+1, I agree.

- "Vince Hoang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You just don't get it. I am not turning on emergency moderation.
> Instead, I will remove both of you from LUAU until you settle your
> differences. I do not begrudge either of you. I think you both want
> what is best for HOSEF, but your strong personalities prevent you
> from
> finding common ground.
> 
> You idea of containment does not work in the Internet age. I tried
> keeping this venue open in your defense. By closing off both
> hosef-managers and LUAU, the disagreement will spill elsewhere, and
> likely where you will not be able to retract the discussion.
> 
> If any subscribers disagree, let me know.
> 
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[LUAU] LVM Restore

[Michael Bishop]

Hi all,

I'm looking for a LVM expert or advice on how to restore an LVM from a 
recovered RAID array. This data needs to be recovered ASAP and I'm willing to 
hire someone to get it working ASAP.

The RAID array on a 3ware card was changed from a RAID 5 to a RAID 10, then 
back to a RAID 5. The system was recovered using RAID Reconstructor and placed 
on a new RAID Array. 

This is a Centos4 OS with 3 partitions: first partition had the OS; 2nd 
partition was swap; and the 3rd most important partition contained a large 500G 
LVM. Though I'm not sure because the partition table also had to be rebuilt.

gpart ran for about 2 hours, but I killed it because I didn't think it should 
have taken that long. I found an app called Partition Table Doctor which ran 
for 30 mins and found 2 partitions that looked about right. Though it didn't 
find the swap partition there was a space between the partitions, but double 
the size of what I expected the swap to be. Which is why I'm concerned that the 
3rd partition wasn't restored properly.

I'm able to boot the system using grub from another hard drive. So the first 
partition made it, but a pvscan comes up blank. It doesn't even list the LVM as 
invalid or missing. All I need is the data in the LVMs. Another server has 
already been built to put the data on it.

Please email me or give me a call if you can help, 429-3030. Again, I'm willing 
to pay an expert to fix it.

This has been quite a journey, so I'm planning on documenting it on the HOSEF 
wiki to hopefully it can help someone in the future.

Thank you.

Michael
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Re: [LUAU] Anyone use a Linksys NSLU2? USB hard disk drives are FOSS friendly?

[Michael Bishop]

Jim Thompson wrote:


Intel OEMs a box with a 400MHz 80219 Xscale controller and a SATA 
controller that will house up to 4 3.5" SATA drives.
It has 2xGigE + 2x USB 2.0 coming out of it, and .. it runs Linux, and 
supports CIFS/SMB and NFS out of the box.
I've had my eye on this for a while. Looks to be best of breed for now. 
However, the $500 price tag has me thinking of building a box and 
installing FreeNAS.


http://www.freenas.org/

FreeNAS is a free NAS (Network-Attached Storage) 
 server, 
supporting: CIFS (samba), FTP, NFS, RSYNC protocols, local user 
authentication, Software RAID (0,1,5) with a Full WEB configuration 
interface. FreeNAS takes less than 32MB once installed on Compact Flash, 
hard drive or USB key. The minimal FreeBSD distribution, Web interface, 
PHP scripts and documentation are based on M0n0wall 
.


http://www.intel.com/design/servers/storage/ss4000-E/

They're about $560, plus drives (see recent threads here for what 4 x 
250GB fast SATA drives will cost, and note that 750GB SATA drives are 
available,
should you really need 3TB of storage in your home.  (MythTV backend, 
anyone?)
IIRC, Max storage is 2TB. While you can put 750GB HDs in it you're still 
limited to the 2TB ceiling.


If you have l33t embedded skills, you can develop your own distro for 
this.   There is simply no reason it couldn't be your home gateway, 
and then
with the exception that most people's broadband connections stuck for 
upload(*), it could serve to make your 'media' accessible when you're out

of the home/office.

Personally, I'm waiting for the linux port of ZFS to complete.   (Its 
very close: http://zfs-on-fuse.blogspot.com/, see also: 
http://www.wizy.org/wiki/ZFS_on_FUSE)


Because you really want your SOHO/SMB NAS, full of cheap disks, to be 
able to do all you find here:  
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/zfs/whatis/


With the right web gui, (so your average prosumer doesn't have to deal 
with the ZFS cli), this combination would make a killer home/SMB NAS.  
Add a service component to keep a copy of the snapshots on the 
big-server-in-the-sky, and you've got something that should sell.


Jim

(*) if you're in the Honolulu core, you can get 9.2Mbps, 
fully-symmetric service for a bit under $1k/month.


On Dec 26, 2006, at 10:03 AM, Brian Chee wrote:

The NLSU2 is a totally hackable box and is pretty nicejust keep 
firmly

in mind that it's USB so slow. The Netgear SC101 is totally windoze ONLY
since it's a hacked up Zetera HBA driver and while a cool concept, it
keeps dropping off the network on me.

Also, the Linksys NLSU2 (aka the Network SLUG) has a huge embedded fan
base with some folks using them as cheaper embedded web servers, USB
servers, etc...

You might want to get instead go for some of the newer boxes that are 
NFS
mountable (also SMB) and web managed, AND are SATA based for speed. 
So far
nothing is catching my eye, and I'm considering just building an 
embedded

Linux box for NFS, and perhaps some other stuff...the platform that's
catching my eye for now is the Medallion by Techsol.ca that I used 
for the

PODS projectgeneral purpose StrongARM SA1110 system...that uses VERY
little power so perhaps with 2.5" drives I could make it all battery
powered. The only hassle is that toolchain and cross compiling can be a
royal hassle if you don't do it all the time.

/brian chee


University of Hawaii at Manoa
School of Ocean and Earth Sciences and Technology (SOEST)
Advanced Network Computing Laboratory (ANCL)
2525 Correa Road, HIG 500
Honolulu, HI  96822
Voice: 808-956-5797   Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Brian J.S. Chee, CNE/CNI
http://ancl.ics.hawaii.edu

On Mon, 25 Dec 2006, Julian Yap wrote:


Things are starting to get unwieldy and the amount of HD storage
required for files which can be offloaded (namely music, photos) has
increased to the point where I need to consider other storage options.
Basically I want a cheap NAS (and that cheap to run, so not a PC).

Anyone use a Linksys NSLU2?  Any good?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSLU2

Recommend any of the alternative firmwares on this site over any of the
others?
http://www.nslu2-linux.org/

I'm thinking of getting one of these and a 'Sunday paper brochure
insert' USB hard disk drive.

Another question is, do USB hard disk drives require any Windows/Mac
software to be operational?  In other words, are they all pretty much
Free Software OS friendly?

~ Julian


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Re: [LUAU] critique of old emails / Love of disagreements / etc

[Michael Bishop]

Perhaps I drank too much eggnog, but this "discussion" reminded me of...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7836547273687836884

Merry Christmas!
Happy Christmas!
Happy Holidays!
or whatever makes you smile this season!

Michael

PS - If you're not smiling at the end of the video, then please have 
someone hit you with the happy stick until you smile. :-)

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Re: [LUAU] HDs for mirrors.hosef.org

[Michael Bishop]

Vince Hoang wrote:

Since Michael offered to help, I am going to ask him to handle
the order and have HOSEF reimburse him. Let Scott know if you
need a donation receipt.
  
OK, so I'm ordering (4) Western Digital 500G HDs and (1) 3ware 
9500S-4LP. I'll post when it arrives.


Michael
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Re: [LUAU] HDs for mirrors.hosef.org

[Michael Bishop]

Vince Hoang wrote:

3ware makes the only SATA cards that I have personally known to
work over the past 3 years and a 4-port card will run about $300.
Silicon Image makes sub-$100 cards, but I have not used them in a
year. Adaptec ships too many cards to make any sense of.
  
If we choose to move to SATA drives we will get better hardware at a 
better price. Western Digital makes a SATA HD specially designed for 
RAID. They call it their RAID Edition 2 drives. I'm using them in my 
server right now and they have been great so far.


Western Digital RE2 WD5000YS 500GB Serial ATA 3.0 Gb/s 7200RPM Hard 
Drive w/16MB Buffer

http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=101258-9
$169.99 each

3ware 7506-4LP Parallel ATA RAID Controller Card Retail
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=131711
$258.99

3ware 9550SX-4LP KIT 4-Port Half Length/Low profile Serial ATA II RAID 
Controller Card Retail

http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=131700
$324.99

$169.99 X 4 = $679.96 for HDs
$324.99 for 3Ware RAID
$1004.95 grand total

$807.95 - (4) IDE HDs

$197 more for SATA drives

Bottom like for 4 people, the cost would be $250.

Would anyone else like to chip in? Any amount will help. Do I hear $15? 
$50? $100? $200?


BTW, I'll be attending the Open Source Pizza tonight -- sounds like a 
good one.



Sticking with PATA would be non-ideal, but it is no showstopper.
I think 500GB PATA disks should out live their usefulness in 4
years for file mirror.
  
Agreed. While the SATA would be great, the IDE would still be bigger 
than what's in there now.


Michael

-Vince
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Re: [LUAU] HDs for mirrors.hosef.org

[Michael Bishop]

Jim Thompson wrote:


On Dec 17, 2006, at 9:02 PM, Michael Bishop wrote:


Vince Hoang wrote:

I am rather allergic to RAID5 unless it is on a _seriously_ fast
SCSI controller, but we can certainly run a 600GB RAID1 + 500GB
single-disk to get over 1TB of space for the public file mirror
until the second pair can be completed. Are there any other
businesses that want to do any end of the year write offs? :)


I'll buy one for the mirror. How about:

Seagate Barracuda 7200.9 ST3500641A 500GB PATA 7200RPM Hard Drive 
w/16MB Buffer ***Free Shipping***

http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=101547

$198.99 each
$795.96 for 4 HDs
$11.99 S&H to Hawaii
$807.95 grand total

I'd personally like to see mirrored:
- Ubuntu repository
- CentOS 4.4 repository
- FreeBSD CVSup tree


Perhaps we should let Vince propose which drive(s) to purchase, @ < 
$200 each.
Sure, I would welcome any reasonable choice. Since I know Vince is quite 
busy. I figured I'd help push the process along and suggest something 
reasonable. Also, these come with a 5 year warranty which will help to 
stretch our donation. I think we put in Seagate's last time as well.


Which reminds me, there is one IDE cable in the server that looks like 
it's been put through the grinder and then stepped on a few times. ;-P 
So I'll also donate some really long IDE cables. I should still have a 
new 36 and 48-inch in stock.


I think we have "three" hands up to buy one and donate.
I'm the "fourth" and would be willing to handle the transaction if 
everyone agrees. I'm putting in an order Wednesday morning so I can comp 
the S&H if we can all agree by then. Otherwise let me know where to send 
the check.


I'd very much like to install the HDs as I haven't seen Brian's new lab 
since he moved. It'd also give me a chance to check out the new toys 
Brian's working with. :-)


Long live the HOSEF mirror!

Michael
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[LUAU] HDs for mirrors.hosef.org

[Michael Bishop]

Vince Hoang wrote:

I am rather allergic to RAID5 unless it is on a _seriously_ fast
SCSI controller, but we can certainly run a 600GB RAID1 + 500GB
single-disk to get over 1TB of space for the public file mirror
until the second pair can be completed. Are there any other
businesses that want to do any end of the year write offs? :)
  

I'll buy one for the mirror. How about:

Seagate Barracuda 7200.9 ST3500641A 500GB PATA 7200RPM Hard Drive w/16MB 
Buffer ***Free Shipping***

http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=101547

$198.99 each
$795.96 for 4 HDs
$11.99 S&H to Hawaii
$807.95 grand total

I'd personally like to see mirrored:
   -   Ubuntu repository
   -   CentOS 4.4 repository
   -   FreeBSD CVSup tree

Thanks folks. Thank you all very much.
  

Thank you for keeping the HOSEF server running and managed well.

-Vince
  

Michael

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[LUAU] Groklaw's take on Microsoft-Novell alliance

[Michael Bishop]

Very good article on the Microsoft-Novell alliance. Warrent Togami has 
some good points...


http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20061103073628401
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[LUAU] Network Analysis Training from ComTest

[Michael Bishop]

Have you taken the Network Analysis Training from ComTest? How was it? 
Was it worth it?


http://www.comtest.com/

Thank you.

Michael

[LUAU] NIC workstation BIOS fix (was: Network printer)

[Michael Bishop]

R. Scott Belford wrote:

Some cables were loose and what not, so after some time 15 out of 20 of
the clients are now booting.  5 of the NIC workstations are asking for a
CDROM.  Michael B. has apparently found a fix to this and either he or
Bully will be implementing it.

I thought I had posted the fix. Here it is:

Unplug the power and take the cover off the box.
Locate the jumper near the bios.
Move it to the other position.
Leave the box open and plug it in, start the computer.
Change the BIOS setting. Save BIOS.
Unplug the box.
Move the jumper to the original position.
Plug box back in. Start it up and check to make sure it works.
Note that the color of the BIOS screen changes when you change jumper 
positions. That is normal.


Make sure to bring needle nose pliers as the box is very tight to work in.

Michael

Re: [LUAU] FOSS alternatives to proprietary software

[Michael Bishop]

Julian Yap wrote:
I was wondering, what are your favorite FOSS alternatives?  
  

IMHO, one of the best sites to point people to is:

http://www.opensourcewindows.org/

Quote from the site:

*About this Site*
Open Source Windows is a simple list of the best free and open source 
software for Windows. We aren't trying to be a comprehensive listing of 
every open-source Windows application, instead we want to showcase the 
best, most important, and easiest to use. This page should be a handy 
reference and a useful tool for getting more people to start using free 
and open-source software. If you think we're missing any great apps, 
please let us know.

Re: [LUAU] Free Niagara Server (60-day trial)

[Michael Bishop]

Original in English: http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/jonathan? 
entry=niagara_benchmarks


Amazing to see his blog is being translated into other languages,  
like Japanese. I wonder what other languages his blog is translated  
into.


Quite bold are his statements. "...we'll send you the fastest server  
on earth, absolutely free. If you don't like it, we'll send someone  
to pick it up [for free]."


The comments are more interesting (to me) then the offer. I'm  
surprised they let those stand.


Michael


On Feb 28, 2006, at 10:19 PM, Hawaii Linux Institute wrote:

A friend of mind sent me this news about a free Niagara server (in  
Japanese) and asked if anyone has (or knows anyone who has) any  
experience:


http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/jonathanja? 
entry=free_server_v2_0_honest



Wayne
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Re: [LUAU] looking for feedback samba/LDAP server

[Michael Bishop]

On Feb 7, 2006, at 10:13 PM, Nakashima wrote:

http://secure.newegg.com/NewVersion/Wishlist/WishShareShow.asp? 
ID=1888328&WishListTitle=liholiho


On Tuesday, February 7, 2006, at 05:13  PM, Michael Bishop wrote:
Use the 'email wish list' link on their site and email yourself  
the right link. Don't forget to share it.


On Feb 7, 2006, at 4:41 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The above URL links to a wish list for our school's soon to be  
purchased samba/LDAP server. I'm not great at hardware, so I'd  
like to get some advice from someone more qualified. Any feedback  
would be appreciated.


I think we need 2 gig of ram and 15K SCSI.
--Peter


My suggestions/comments are as follows. Please forgive my direct  
responses; no intention to offend.


Mobo - good airflow, me like.

Processor - buy a server-class processor, my suggestion provides  
0.2Ghz more in speed and doubles the L2 cache to 1MB:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103596
Add $86

Video card - I wouldn't buy one, just strip one from another box, I'm  
sure HOSEF has truck loads. Otherwise need to check compatibility  
with Linux or pick something more brand name.


Power Supply (PSU) - *wrong* PSU for the mobo, it may be an ATX mobo,  
but that doesn't mean it takes an ATX type PSU, you need a type  
EPS12V, I suggest:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817103478
$103.50

RAM - first off the crucial memory is not listed as compatible for  
the Tyan mobo. Half way to second, OCZ RAM, great if your going to  
overclock, just keep the extinguisher handy and a few $100 for a new  
processor. Second, ECC please, I don't see why no ECC, the following  
ECC RAM costs less then either proposed RAM packs, has been qualified  
by the Tyan to work with the mobo and has a lifetime warranty. So why  
not ECC?


Either get 4 x 512MB, like one of those recommended by Tyan
Kingston ValueRAM 512MB 184-Pin DDR SDRAM ECC Unbuffered DDR 400 (PC  
3200) System Memory - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820141427
$47.99

or pick one that is compatible via the Crucial list:
http://www.crucial.com/uk/store/listparts.asp?model=S2865+Tomcat 
+K8E&tabid=AM


If you want 1GB sticks then you'll have to do the leg work; at this  
point I'm getting cranky (or lazy). ;-P


Also, PC2700 RAM is plenty fast, don't waste the money on PC3200. I  
picked PC3200 above because it was the only 512MB sticks I could find  
that Newegg was selling and a brand that I would use. If you pick  
fron Crucial, then get PC2700 ECC.


Floppy - get one from HOSEF, I'd find a Sony branded one

Hard Drives - If the budget is so tight that you can't afford to get  
a second hard drive, then move down to SATA. The SCSI controller is  
very nice, but is the most expensive part at $345. I've had SCSI  
drives die within a few weeks. Your entire school is going to  
authenticate off this box, can you really afford to be down waiting  
for an RMA? I hope you'll be setting up one of those P4's from HOSEF  
as a backup. Just fully populate the RAM and toss in 2 HDs running  
soft RAID.


In place of $540 SCSI solution which is 1/3rd the budget I suggest:

3ware 80062LPKIT PCI SATA Controller Card - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16816116030
$126

For the same amount of space:
Western Digital Raptor WD360GD 36.7GB 10,000 RPM Serial ATA150 Hard  
Drive - OEM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822144200
$101.50

Or for double:
Western Digital Raptor WD740GD 74GB 10,000 RPM Serial ATA150 Hard  
Drive - OEM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822144160
$155.00

So for (2) 36G SATA150 10K drives and controller:
$329

Or for (2) 72G SATA150 10K drives and controller:
$436

This is just my quick 2 hour assessment. I think I've covered most of  
the bases. However, to make this 'bullet proof' it would take another  
2 hours at least, but I think your team can take it from here. Just  
make sure you have enough cables (don't forget the mobo comes with  
some), the right cables, the right length cables (data and PSU),  
enough PSU cables or adapters, check that the PSU will fit in the  
case, enough fans, a big enough case (looks kind of small), enough  
space for 2 hard drives while keeping in mind airflow for everything,  
on second thought, I'd suggest a bigger case unless size is a big  
deal. I'd also suggest a rack mount, I find them easier to work with  
then a tower. I usually put it on a table, put the monitor on top and  
buy a small form KB. There are many nice and inexpensive ones on Newegg.


Peter, if you have any questions, as always you are welcome to give  
me a call or drop me an email.


Good luck and have fun!

Michael

Re: [LUAU] Putting the UG back in LUG

[Michael Bishop]

On Feb 2, 2006, at 5:45 PM, Matt Darnell wrote:


On 2/2/06, Clifton Royston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On Thu, Feb 02, 2006 at 09:44:39AM -1000, Michael Bishop wrote:
...

Future projects I would like to build -
OS fax server using a regular modem -> hylafax
personal email server w/ webmail, spam filter,  anti virus etc.
firewall with inbound VPN capability


  I'd be willing to do some firewall-y demos of what you can do  
with an

off-the-shelf FreeBSD install with two network cards, in the way of
transparent network bridging with firewall filtering using ipf.  I've
been running this style of firewall on my home network for about 7
years, first on OpenBSD, then on FreeBSD with ipf.  I also have a
dial-up backup kinda kludged together (not fully automatic,
unfortunately.)


I'd be interested in seeing that.



I think some people would appricaite just knowing when FreeBSD is
appropriate.  If you had the time I would like to hear a talk on  
linux vs

freebsd ve openbsd vs..

If you are willing, we will have to get that on the agenda  (in  
case you are

wondering, there is not an agenda)

The firewall thing would be cool after the asterisk/fax server


I'd like to hear a talk about FreeBSD vs. Linux. I've read a few  
articles and messed with FreeBSD. But it would be nice to be able to  
chat with a warm body about it.


Michael

Re: [LUAU] Putting the UG back in LUG

[Michael Bishop]

On Feb 1, 2006, at 9:55 PM, Matt Darnell wrote:
The first project is building a mythtv box.  Mythtv is an open  
source Tivo -
http://www.mythtv.org/  If we get some hardcore folks we can try to  
build it
from scratch.  If not, there is a Knoppix version (boot from the  
CD, loads

everything) http://mysettopbox.tv/knoppmyth.html

I am thinking about Saturday the 25th at about 4PM at my place in  
Nuuanu.

We can test with my cable tv.


Awesome Matt. Count me in.



I will have all the parts I need.  I will have two different video  
capture

cards...hopefully we can make both work simultaneously.

If you want to build one for yourself at the same time, bring your  
gear.  I
have a 4.6Mb DSL at my house & I will open the WiFi if people just  
want to

hang out.


I'll see if I can frankenstein something together so I can build along.



People can bring beer - I have lots of Vodka, Rum, & Tequila.  If  
people are
so inclined we can chip in ($5 or something) and get some pizza or  
subs.  I

live within one block of Subway, Dominos & Papa Johns.


Pizza sounds good.



Let me know if you are interested in participating.

Future projects I would like to build -
OS fax server using a regular modem -> hylafax
personal email server w/ webmail, spam filter,  anti virus etc.
firewall with inbound VPN capability
ability to scan a document, enter an email address and have the  
document

sent as a pdf to the email address
put OSX on a normal intel box
microsoft exchange replacement
asterisk server for people's house


Great ideas. I could really use a fax server, can we make that the  
next project?


Let me add to that a mousebot made from an old ball mouse. It's look  
like it could be done in a few hours. It seems like most of the parts  
can be found at Honolulu Electronics or Radio Shack.

http://tinyurl.com/8e4r6

Michael

Re: [LUAU] Re: Goobuntu Linux

[Michael Bishop]

On Feb 1, 2006, at 7:59 PM, Julian Yap wrote

Maybe someone who is more knowledgeable on the economics of Windows
licensing can fill me on what would be the cost to set that up for  
~330

students?  We're talking Windows Server 2003 and CALs for users and
students here.


Well it depends on how many computers are at the school. But for an  
extreme view, lets assume every student has a computer which is very  
possible with an LTSP solution.


~$25 per license for Windows XP * 330 computers = $8250
~$120 per license for Windows 2003 * 2 servers = $240
~$3 per CAL * 330 computers = $990

Total = $9480

Add Office 2003 @ ~$50 per license * 330 computers = $16,500

Final total = $25,980

Not counting the hardware needed which I'd estimate at about $8,000  
academic pricing for dual processor machines with SCSI drives,  
hardware raid and tape backups.


Final Final Total = $41,980

But wait, there's more. We haven't tossed in the need for anti-virus/ 
anti-spam software and perhaps diskeeper. However, the Hawaii DOE has  
purchased a central school-wide solution, so you don't see the cost.  
So you are left with the need for a good anti-spam solution. The free  
are ones nice, but usually requires constant updating and running on  
a weekly basis. If you pay for a solution, that's another chuck of  
money.


Hope that helps.

Michael

Re: [LUAU] Is Google going to create its own Linux distro?

[Michael Bishop]

Actually they have a new product in Beta called Google Gulp.

http://www.google.com/googlegulp/

Enjoy!

Michael

Re: [LUAU] doing 'e'

[Michael Bishop]

I just tried it again with both Firefox and IE and it doesn't load. It
looks like a dns problem - it can't find the server, and nslookup
doesn't work either. Strange...I tried another online NS Lookup  
tool at
http://www.zoneedit.com/lookup.html? 
host=www.programmingebooks.tk&type=A&server=&forward=Look+it+up

and got three IP addresses that didn't work, either.

Can somebody else test this link? This is kind of wierd.



http://www.programmingebooks.tk/


Not working for me either.

G4 Apple laptop
Road Runner connection
Firefox and Safari

Re: [LUAU] Re: Python (Was Re: Hosef)

[Michael Bishop]

On Nov 30, 2005, at 11:21 PM, Michael Bishop wrote:


On Nov 30, 2005, at 10:30 PM, Tim Newsham wrote:

We will be at McKinley the next three Saturdays from 10-2.  On  
the 10th we'll be there a bit longer for our organizational  
meeting.  This is a month when we will be paying for the space,  
so we'd love for attendees to become members of HOSEF.



My input:  A saturday afternoon such as Dec. 3rd, around 1pm or so
for a few hours (2, maybe 3?) with an aim to teach and learn new  
stuff

by exchanging code and reworking it for demonstration purposes and
discussing it?  Geeky enough?


This works well.  Let me know ASAP, though.  If you do it this  
Saturday, the 3rd, our friend Michael can possibly host us as  
late as needed. Other Saturdays we will need to make custodial  
arrangements.


I'll aim to be there from noon till 2 (or later if there's a need
and Michael is around to let us stay later).  If others are planning
on coming down please let us know.


I'll be there at late as you like as long as I can get a ride home  
afterward.


Actually I think I'll be driving by then, so no worries on the ride.  
To clarify, I wasn't asking you, Tim, in particular for a ride. I was  
just putting out the need on the list. I hope I did not offend.


I need to write a Python script for the Halau Lokahi Charter School.  
I'll post it as I get it working.


Michael

Re: [LUAU] Re: Python (Was Re: Hosef)

[Michael Bishop]

On Nov 30, 2005, at 10:30 PM, Tim Newsham wrote:

We will be at McKinley the next three Saturdays from 10-2.  On the  
10th we'll be there a bit longer for our organizational meeting.   
This is a month when we will be paying for the space, so we'd love  
for attendees to become members of HOSEF.



My input:  A saturday afternoon such as Dec. 3rd, around 1pm or so
for a few hours (2, maybe 3?) with an aim to teach and learn new  
stuff

by exchanging code and reworking it for demonstration purposes and
discussing it?  Geeky enough?


This works well.  Let me know ASAP, though.  If you do it this  
Saturday, the 3rd, our friend Michael can possibly host us as late  
as needed. Other Saturdays we will need to make custodial  
arrangements.


I'll aim to be there from noon till 2 (or later if there's a need
and Michael is around to let us stay later).  If others are planning
on coming down please let us know.


I'll be there at late as you like as long as I can get a ride home  
afterward.


Michael

[LUAU] Have you thanked your SysAdmin Today?

[Michael Bishop]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7193470719293309352

LOL

Michael

Re: [LUAU] Re: Python (Was Re: Hosef)

[Michael Bishop]

On Sat, 2005-11-19 at 09:53 -1000, Clifton Royston wrote:
>   Would anyone be interested in starting up a very informal Hawaii
> Python Users' Group?  Probably more of an occasional meet-up and chat,
> but we could see what evolves from it.

I would be interested.

[LUAU] FOSS Classes (was: Re: Hosef)

[Michael Bishop]

On Nov 9, 2005, at 2:59 PM, Jim Thompson wrote:
HOSEF held a PHP class taught by a local wizard (Kevin English)  
once, but I've never been able to get them to repeat the class.


I'd be happy to run any FOSS type class at McKinley. The biggest  
issue is finding the instructor and enough students. I'm putting the  
class together for Spring 2006 right now. Anyone willing to teach a  
class?

Re: [LUAU] Appletalk services daemon under debian

[Michael Bishop]

You may also need to do a 'dpkg --purge netatalk' to remove all files  
associated with that package. Usually required to remove config  
files, but I've occasionally seen it needed for rcX.d scripts.


On Oct 25, 2005, at 10:04 AM, Jim Thompson wrote:


apt-get remove 
so
apt-get remove netatalk

On Oct 25, 2005, at 9:55 AM, Brian Chee wrote:



Hey gang:
While deleting S20netatalk out of the rc.d directories will  
work...is there
a more elegant way to get rid of appletalk services? This server  
takes
forever to come up because it sits there forever and a day trying  
to find

all the appletalk services on the subnet.

/brian chee

University of Hawai'i at Manoa
School of Ocean & Earth Science & Technology
Advanced Network Computing Lab
1680 East West Road, POST rm 311
Honolulu, HI  96822
808-956-5797 voice, 877-284-1934 fax

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Re: [LUAU] Which Linux VPN Solution?

[Michael Bishop]

In regards to m0n0wall, at home I use it as my firewall/router/DHCP/ 
DNS/traffic shaper for a VoIP phone (provided by a local company, not  
from RR). It's never given me any trouble and I don't worry about it  
at all. It works well on an old PC or for a more compact solution on  
an embedded system and you can even add wireless to it. Its about  
$200 for a 3 NIC board with case; more if you want to add wireless  
card, antenna(s), etc. You can also stick it in a weather proof case  
and stick it on your roof.


I'm starting to evaluate it as a VPN for my clients particularly as  
an office to home and office to office VPNs. I'll post my findings to  
the list in case anyone is interested.


Netgate, which Jim owns and operates, sells a Soekris box with  
m0n0wall installed and tested. There seems to be the recent addition  
of a indoor enclosure where you can add your own Soekris board and  
wireless, very nice.


http://www.netgate.com/index.php? 
cPath=60&osCsid=897f0733985faa46f6afd6671ec60635


I am not affiliated with Netgate. I just think Jim is an awesome guy  
and I like to support local companies.


Let me know how it goes, I'd like to know what you picked in the end.

Good luck.

Michael


On Sep 29, 2005, at 3:50 PM, Jim Thompson wrote:


m0n0wall on an old PC.

(its freebsd, but the price is $0)

On Sep 29, 2005, at 10:15 AM, Joe Catanzaro wrote:


A one of my clients would like me to install a VPN solution so  
that they can access their office LAN from home. This should be a  
fairly simple solution. Nothing fancy. Which Linux VPN solution  
will work best for this situation? If not Linux, which VPN  
appliance/device should I consider?


Mahalo,


---
Joe Catanzaro
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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[LUAU] Rescheduled - Halau Lokahi Charter School Lab Install

[Michael Bishop]

Only got 1 response to move equipment. Far too much to move with only 2
people and 1 vehicle. So the lab install will be rescheduled. Please
note there are no scheduled HOSEF events this Saturday. Have a good
weekend.

Michael


On Thu, 2005-08-18 at 23:25 -1000, Michael Bishop wrote:
> This coming Saturday, August 20, we have a lab install scheduled at
> Halau Lokahi, a public charter school. http://www.halaulokahi.org/
> This will be HOSEFs first public charter school lab install. We need all
> the help we can get if we are to finish on Saturday so the lab is ready
> for students to start using on Monday.
> 
> Halau Lokahi is very different from the traditional style of schooling.
> Classes are small and are generally help outside in the open air. They
> don't have a set building like most K-12 schools so they lease out
> office space and create classrooms and offices from that space.
> 
> The charter schools are in a unique position within the school system
> because they don't have strong ties with the regular DOE. This allows
> them to be more open to possibilities. The plan is for the school to
> eventually be entirely open source based from the administration level
> to the student level.
> 
> This Saturday we'll be setting up a 20 client lab for regular classes
> and 2 smaller mini labs for individual work. We need help moving 2
> printers, 20 thin clients, 25 monitors, 30 KBs and 30 mice from 
> 
> McKinley Adult School
> 634 Pensacola St
> http://maps.yahoo.com/maps_result?addr=634
> +pensacola&csz=96814&country=us&new=1&name=&qty=
> 
> to Halau Lokahi
> 401 Hart St
> http://maps.yahoo.com/maps_result?addr=401+hart+st&csz=honolulu%2C
> +hi&country=us&new=1&name=&qty=
> 
> We'll meet at McKinley by 10am to start loading up the equipment for
> transport to the charter school.
> 
> The schools building is on the corner of Hart and Waiakamilo. The school
> is located on the first floor of the Ewa side of the building. Parking
> is mauka of the building.
> 
> Please let me know if your planning on coming so I can plan out how many
> trips we'll need to take.
> 
> Michael
> 429-3030
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[LUAU] Lab Install this Saturday - Halau Lokahi Charter School - help needed

[Michael Bishop]

This coming Saturday, August 20, we have a lab install scheduled at
Halau Lokahi, a public charter school. http://www.halaulokahi.org/
This will be HOSEFs first public charter school lab install. We need all
the help we can get if we are to finish on Saturday so the lab is ready
for students to start using on Monday.

Halau Lokahi is very different from the traditional style of schooling.
Classes are small and are generally help outside in the open air. They
don't have a set building like most K-12 schools so they lease out
office space and create classrooms and offices from that space.

The charter schools are in a unique position within the school system
because they don't have strong ties with the regular DOE. This allows
them to be more open to possibilities. The plan is for the school to
eventually be entirely open source based from the administration level
to the student level.

This Saturday we'll be setting up a 20 client lab for regular classes
and 2 smaller mini labs for individual work. We need help moving 2
printers, 20 thin clients, 25 monitors, 30 KBs and 30 mice from 

McKinley Adult School
634 Pensacola St
http://maps.yahoo.com/maps_result?addr=634
+pensacola&csz=96814&country=us&new=1&name=&qty=

to Halau Lokahi
401 Hart St
http://maps.yahoo.com/maps_result?addr=401+hart+st&csz=honolulu%2C
+hi&country=us&new=1&name=&qty=

We'll meet at McKinley by 10am to start loading up the equipment for
transport to the charter school.

The schools building is on the corner of Hart and Waiakamilo. The school
is located on the first floor of the Ewa side of the building. Parking
is mauka of the building.

Please let me know if your planning on coming so I can plan out how many
trips we'll need to take.

Michael
429-3030

[LUAU] Wi-Fi Speed Spray

[Michael Bishop]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5791782530

ROFLOL

Michael

[LUAU] Today at McKinley - 10am - help needed

[Michael Bishop]

Scott has requested help with the computers and stuff at McKinley from
10am on. Please help if you can.

We've recently noticed that we need to bring back testing sheets so we
can keep consistent. (and so we don't keep testing the same boxes again
and again).

I've modified one that I use to make it useful for HOSEF. Please check
it out and let me know what you think. At least it give us something to
start with. Perhaps you can print one or two pages out and bring it with
you.

http://michaelsplace.net/computer_testing_sheet.pdf

I've found it best to stick it on the top of the computers.

Thank you.

Michael

Re: [LUAU] CentOS4 Hung on Up2date

[Michael Bishop]

On Thursday, July 7, 2005, at 08:19 PM, Hawaii Linux Institute wrote:

I don't have time to go through the detailed steps, but you may want 
to bring your computer to Michael's lab.  He has generously set up a 
time slot of between 10:00 to 12:00 this (probably every) Saturday 
doing pro bono Linux tech consulting work.  Wayne


Allow me to clarify...

It is not my lab, I simply take care of the lab that HOSEF has 
generously provided to the McKinley Adult School.


I have not setup any time slot. HOSEF has setup this time to allow 
people to help each other to learn and grow.


I help people on Saturday because I believe in the Open Source model. I 
am happy to help anyone learn about, use and teach others about Free 
and Open Source Software. It is true that it is pro bono, but I would 
expand on that and say that it is pro bono publico. Which simply means, 
"for the good of the public".


Michael

Re: [LUAU] CentOS4 Hung on Up2date

[Michael Bishop]

On Thursday, July 7, 2005, at 10:37 AM, Blake Vance wrote:


Youch!

Older NEC 333 MHz, 192 MB RAM PC had been
chugging along with CentOS 4 until I ran
up2date. After retrieving all 119 MB of
openoffice.org-il8n-1.1.2..., PC hung
(mouse/KB nonresponsive). Reboot yielded
"Press  to select MBA boot method [2
options] (Default is PXE)".

Option 1 for boot using TriROM:
"MSD: no reply, then Rx2 Rx2 ...
File server could not be found"

Option 2 using Preboot Execution Environment
(PXE):
"DHCP MAC ADDR: 00 10 4B 39 03 D0
PXE-E52: No IP address received from DHCP or
BOOTP.
PXE-M0F: Exiting PXE.
Operating System not found"

Any suggestions, before I reinstall OS?
Might I have been running up against a
memory shortage on the package retrieval?


It sounds more like a hardware problem. Without diagnosing the computer 
first hand, I suggest running SpinRite [http://grc.com/spinrite.htm] on 
the hard drive first, then do a memtest and then run something like 
Stress Linux [http://www.stresslinux.org/] or some stress test 
utilities on the Ultimate Boot CD.


All the programs listed above are Free or Open Source except SpinRite 
which costs $89. I'd be willing to run it on your drive this Saturday 
at McKinley from 10am. Email me if your interested.


I've also had problems with yum/up2date on CentOS 4, which combined 
with other problems was enough reason to switch to something else. In 
this particular case, I switched to Debian.


Michael

Re: [LUAU] Re: Laptop Install

[Michael Bishop]

On Wednesday, July 6, 2005, at 01:49 PM, Hawaii Linux Institute wrote:


Michael Bishop wrote:

Come to McKinley on Saturday at 10am and we'll show you how to 
install Linux on your laptop. Are there any particular distros that 
you are interested in? What do you want to do with Linux?


Hi Michael-

Have you been able to find solutions to the "suspend to ram" and Wi-Fi 
driver problems?  Wayne




AFAIK for STR, it depends mostly on hardware and ones determination to 
get it working. I've had an IBM T42 which worked great, but to get it 
to that point took much tweaking and configuring. Even then the hard 
work was done by others, I just had to follow the "bread crumbs" as 
they say. Also, running Debian, which seems to be the most IBM friendly 
distro, helped tremendously.


AFAIK for wifi, particularly for the Centrino, there it greater support 
now to the point where it can be considered reliable. For USB wifi will 
always be problematic from my POV because it has a small market.


Michael

Laptop Install (was: Re: [LUAU] Help moving computers?)

[Michael Bishop]

On Wednesday, July 6, 2005, at 01:02 PM, Lono wrote:


Aloha,
Are you moving computers this Thursday? (7/7) If you are, and still 
need an
extra pair of hands, I'd be willing to help out until noon. I can be 
reached

at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or (808)381-3701.
Also, do you know anyone who could help me install linux on a laptop? 
I'm

trying to expand my horizons and have been watching the LUAU list for a
couple of years. I'm not really sure where to get started.


Come to McKinley on Saturday at 10am and we'll show you how to install 
Linux on your laptop. Are there any particular distros that you are 
interested in? What do you want to do with Linux?




Mahalo,
-Lono
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[LUAU] Help prep thin clients this Saturday at McKinley

[Michael Bishop]

HOSEF needs help this Saturday at McKinley to prep thin clients for
schools and go though the equipment that we have.

Prepping includes fixing the computer if possible, testing it out and
labeling it. You don't need to be a techie, you just need to be willing
to help. There is plenty to do.

We'll be there from 4pm to at least 6pm.

If possible, please bring your own set of tools.

McKinley Adult School
634 Pensacola Street, Room 208
Parking on the Pensacola side of the building.

Michael
429-3030

[LUAU] Moving Equipment Plan for Tomorrow

[Michael Bishop]

Here is the plan. However, it is contingent on everyone who is involved
agreeing to it. So far Ben and Bully are on board, but I need Thomas
Burns and Jim Thompson to give me a call so we can firm up the plan,
429-3030.

Ben Timmerman, Thomas Burns, Bully and myself will meet tomorrow at 9am
at the UH POST Bldg and load everything into Ben's Van.  We'll all go
and drop off the black rack and HP Server at McKinley. Then drop off
the beige rack at Charter School. Bully and I will stay at the Charter
School and move it into place. Which will probably take a few hours
since moving of furniture will be needed. Ben and Thomas will continue
on to Hickam to grab large 16 monitors to be paired with the 16
computers from UH. From there head to Hahaione Elem and drop off the
computers and monitors.

Those monitors consist of extra-heavy back-breaking Sony 19 and 21 inch
monitors and some Dell monitors which I think are 17 inches. I think it
best if 2 people move the monitors, especially the 21 inch ones. If
Thomas cannot make the whole ride, he could stop with us downtown at the
Charter School and we can take him back to UH. If that is the case,
then perhaps Jim Thompson will be able to help out. Jim would you be
able to help Ben at Hickam and then out at Hahaione?

The monitors will be available after 11pm, Jeff Zidek must be called
first before heading onto Hickam AFB. I'll give Ben the numbers.
Paperwork needs to be taken with the monitors to be signed by the tech
coordinator at Hahaione and returned to Jeff. Sending it back by mail
is probably the simplest way to do it.

Who will work with Calvin to move the 20 computers from New Horizons to
McKinley? Calvin, when can we pick them up and who do we need to
contact?

There is no rush on moving the P3s except that we need space at
McKinley. I figure that on Saturday Scott can take the P3s in his truck
after the LTSP class at McKinley. Scott, do you need help moving the
P3s out to Ewa?

Thank you to all who have stepped forward to help get another K12LTSP lab built.

Michael
429-3030

UH - Brian Chee
 - 16 computers -> Hahaione Elem
(http://165.248.6.166/data/school.asp?schoolcode=108)
 - Beige Rack -> Charter School ( Bishop Street Ste. 516)
 - Black Rack -> McKinley Storage
 - HP Server -> McKinley Storage
Calvin - New Horizons (Ala Moana) - 20 Thin Computers -> McKinley
Hickam AFB - ~20 19-21" monitors -> Hahaione Elem
(http://165.248.6.166/data/school.asp?schoolcode=108)
McKinley - ~20 P3 Dells -> Scott's Garage (Ewa Beach)

Moving Equipment (Was: Re: [LUAU] Matched HP Desktops)

[Michael Bishop]

It's moving time and we got lots to do. Here is the breakdown of what we
need to move and where.

UH - Brian Chee
 - 16 computers -> Hahaione Elem
(http://165.248.6.166/data/school.asp?schoolcode=108)
 - Black Rack -> Charter School ( Bishop Street Ste. 516)
 - Beige Rack -> McKinley Storage
 - HP Server -> McKinley Storage
Calvin - New Horizons (Ala Moana) - 20 Thin Computers -> McKinley
Hickam AFB - ~20 19-21" monitors -> Hahaione Elem
(http://165.248.6.166/data/school.asp?schoolcode=108)
McKinley - ~20 P3 Dells -> Scott's Garage (Ewa Beach)

Ben Timmerman, Jim Thompson and Bully are willing to help. Can anyone
else help? Please email me ASAP. Thank you.

Michael

VoIP (was: Re: [LUAU] interesting article on Mark Spencer/Digium)

[Michael Bishop]

On Fri, 2005-06-10 at 10:18 -1000, Jim Thompson wrote:
> On Jun 10, 2005, at 10:04 AM, Hawaii Linux Institute wrote:
> > Jim Thompson wrote:
> >> http://news.com.com/Is+the+telephone+industry+ready+for+open 
> >> +source/2008-1082_3-5737703.html
> >>
> > Perhaps you could enlighten us with an informed talk on Linux-based  
> > PBX?
> 
> Any reason to not have Matt Darnell (sp?) come do so instead?   He  
> runs an Asterix (and SER) based business here in Honolulu.

I've been using Matt's service for a few weeks now and so far it works
great. I'm using Residential Road Runner and I haven't needed to
prioritize my traffic. However, if I'm downloading or uploading while on
a call we start to breakup. Which is exactly what Matt had told me would
happen.

I'm looking at setting up a router with HTB
(http://luxik.cdi.cz/~devik/qos/htb/) or some type of packet
scheduler/prioritizer.

As for the phones, I've tried just about every linux based soft phone I
can find and the only one I could get working reliably was the Debian
unstable version of kphone. Its very simple to use and it just works.
The only problem is that I haven't figured out how get an incoming call
to ring on my speakers and not the USB headset.

> Tens of thousands of geeks already do this.(BTW, your lawyer  
> mentality is showing.  :-)Its nearly trivial to setup.   Does  
> LUAU/HOSEF have
> technical get-togethers with speakers?  (Or is that CyberPizza?  (And  
> what about those of us trying to cut down on carbs?))

We are planning to start having workshops again like we had before. I
guess Matt can be our first speaker. I'll chat with him about it.

[LUAU] demo at McKinley (was: MythTV on Fedora)

[Michael Bishop]

On Fri, 2005-06-03 at 22:56 -1000, Vince Hoang wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 01, 2005 at 10:09:11AM -1000, Hawaii Linux Institute wrote:
> > I will remove the demo from McKinley this week but as far as
> > LUAU is concerned
> 
> Unless Michael wants it removed, I would keep it at McKinley.

I allowed Wayne to come in and play during the same time as HOSEF.
People came to see what he was doing. But it interfered with other
previously scheduled items. I was lax in creating a time for this
activity as I had been asked to. As such, this has become so much more
of a conflict and issue then is shown on the list. So as of today it
will be removed.

McKinley was opened by me to allow HOSEF a place to meet, work and play.
In return HOSEF has provided McKinley with at least 30 computers to
create a good lab. While McKinley students use to learn English and for
HOSEF to use for classes and activities.

For those that don't know, I was hit by a car in February while riding
my bicycle. Since then I've been re-evaluating my life and have begun to
restructure it. This has been a very difficult time for me and has
interfered with my effectiveness.

So for at least the next month I won't be hosting anything at McKinley.
Once I am more effective in my everyday issues, then I will be back to
hosting classes and activities. One of the classes I am looking forward
to is a structured LPI class that I hope to start next month. We'll have
a good book, good instructors and a set start and end time. The class
will be about 2.5 months long.

I hope this clarifies the issues and helps to answer any questions that
may have been raised by my silence.

Michael

[LUAU] Become a CACert Assurer and Create "valid" SSL Certificates for free

[Michael Bishop]

HOSEF is sponsoring a "cert party". For more information about this free
service, visit http://www.cacert.org and click on the About Us link at
the bottom.

If you are interested, you'll need to:
 1) Get an account with CAcert.org (free reg)
 2) Bring two forms of _government_ issued ID _with_ _photos_.  For
example, Military ID, State ID, Drivers License, Passport.
 3) Print and bring 10 WOT forms: https://www.cacert.org/docs/CAP.pdf

When:
Saturday, June 4, 2005 at 10am

Where:
McKinley Community School for Adults
634 Pensacola Street, Room 208

Directions:
>From Pensacola, take a right into the driveway and then your first left
into the parking lot. Through the double doors, up the stairs, take a
left and then a right into room 208.

If you get lost, call me, 429-3030.

Michael

Re: [LUAU] boot loaders and XP

[Michael Bishop]

On Tue, 2005-05-24 at 12:11 -1000, kilauea wrote:
> Aloha Kakou
> 
> I have some questions regarding multi-boot (Linux & XP) systems. If I
> wanted to install Linux on an existing XP machine, would Grub or Lilo
> handle this? I assume that I would need to repartition with Parted or
> add of a second drive. Should I expect problems with boot loaders (Grub
> or Lilo) and virus checkering software?
> 
> Mahalo to Wayne for concise answer to previous question!
> Kilauea

When resizing or making any major changes to a hard drive setup, it is
always wise to backup important data.

If WinXP currently takes up all available space, then you would need to
either resize it or add another hard drive. Free tools for resizing are
included on the Ultimate Boot CD (ultimatebootcd.com) or a commercial
tool called Partition Magic may be used.

Most distros use GRUB for a boot loader, which I would also recommend.
Generally they will find and setup the WinXP partition in GRUB for easy
loading. Unless you are setting up something unusual, then there should
be no problems with GRUB.

As for virus checking software, unless it can see the partition it won't
scan it. WinXP cannot see linux partitions. So you should have no
problems.

Michael

[LUAU] Zire 31 and Evolution

[Michael Bishop]

I'm currently using Evolution for my email, calendars, contacts and
tasks. So far its been great, but I'd really like to be able to take it
on the road. A laptop would be just too much to deal with, so I'm
turning to a PDA. My research has lead my to the Zire 31, an entry-level
color Palm-based PDA. I've tested one out and it seems to work well.

My question is simply will I be able to sync Evolution and the Zire
together? I need to be able to sync my tasks, calendars, contacts and
some files. Is anyone on LUAU doing this? How well does it work?

I googled around and spent many hours reading up. I can only guess that
it will work because usually all I read about is the problems. Which is
why I now turn to LUAU...

Michael

Re: [LUAU] Accessing removable media on thinclient??

[Michael Bishop]

Byron Kapali wrote:


Aloha All,
Noobie question: Is there a way to use the removable media (floppy, 
cdrom, usb) on the thin client while logged in to the K12LTSP server?
Example:  I boot the thin client from a universal boot floppy to 
create the lts session.  I remove the boot disk.  A student logs in 
and wants to work on a file that is on the floppy.  After inserting 
the floppy disk, no icon appears to indicate that the floppy disk is 
accessible.  What do I need to do?


Byron Kapali
Hilo High School
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Start with this:
http://www.redhat.com/archives/k12osn/2002-April/msg00128.html
and this:
http://www.redhat.com/archives/k12osn/2002-July/msg00160.html

If it doesn't help, I suggest asking on the K12LTSP mailing list:
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn

Let me know if it works.

Michael

[LUAU] brainbench certs

[Michael Bishop]

Brainbench is making all their certs free from March 21 through April 4.
http://www.brainbench.com/xml/bb/landing/offer/promotion.xml?contentId=2310

I've taken some of the free ones in the past. The tests were acceptable, 
but the validity comes into question because of the possibiliy of 
cheating and that you can retake the test 3 times before it is noted on 
your transcript.


I think they charge a few dollars for a printed cert. May be good cert 
fodder for those clueless HR people.


BTW, I am not affilicated with them and I could care less if you use 
them. Just passing along some information that I thought maybe useful.


Have fun!

Michael

Re: [LUAU] HOSEF Org Meeting and Brainstorming

[Michael Bishop]

> Now I am confused: is it mapunapuna or stadium mall ??
> Hank  

That address was what I was given. I guess it is wrong, sorry for the
confusion. So forget the address. The meeting is definetly at Pizza Hut
in Stadium Mall.

Michael

Re: [LUAU] HOSEF Org Meeting and Brainstorming

[Michael Bishop]

On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 11:41:20 -1000, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Michael Bishop wrote:
> 
> >Just a quick reminder that the location for the HOSEF Org Meeting today
> >has changed to Pizza Hut at Stadium Marketplace, 1050 Ahua St. The
> >meeting will take place at 3:30pm and should be through by 4pm.
> >
> >The most important part comes afterward as we eat pizza and brainstorm
> >on the future of HOSEF. We are at a crossroad and need to create a
> >roadmap for the next 3 moths, please attend if at all possible. Your
> >input is vital to the success of HOSEF.
> >
> >Thank you.
> >
> >Michael
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> >
> >  
> >
> HI,
> 
> I'm a little confused as to the location of this Pizza Hut.
> 
> There is no Pizza hut in Stadium Market place which has some stores like 
> Checker and Food Land between Price Busters and Kmart.
> 
> And I think Ahua stret is in Mapuna Puna by the airport.
> 
> There is a Pizza Hut in the Stadium Mall across Ice Palace. Is that the
> one?

Yes, we are meeting at the Pizza Hut in Stadium Mall. Thanks for
catching the error.

Michael

[LUAU] HOSEF Org Meeting and Brainstorming

[Michael Bishop]

Just a quick reminder that the location for the HOSEF Org Meeting today
has changed to Pizza Hut at Stadium Marketplace, 1050 Ahua St. The
meeting will take place at 3:30pm and should be through by 4pm.

The most important part comes afterward as we eat pizza and brainstorm
on the future of HOSEF. We are at a crossroad and need to create a
roadmap for the next 3 moths, please attend if at all possible. Your
input is vital to the success of HOSEF.

Thank you.

Michael

Re: [LUAU] VMWare & SuSE 9.2

[Michael Bishop]

On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 20:55:31 -1000, "Rodney Kanno"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Has anyone been successful in getting VMWare workstation 4.5.2 to work 
> on a default installation of SuSE 9.2? I have installed the vmware rpm 
> as well a make and gcc, but during the vmware-config.pl process, I get 
> the following error message:
> 
> /make: Entering directory `/tmp/vmware-config1/vmmon-only'
> make -C /usr/src/linux/include/.. SUBDIRS=$PWD SRCROOT=$PWD/. modules
> make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.6.8-24.10'
> 
> WARNING: Symbol version dump /usr/src/linux-2.6.8-24.10/Module.symvers 
> is  missing, modules will have CONFIG_MODVERSIONS disabled.
> 
>   CC [M]  /tmp/vmware-config1/vmmon-only/linux/driver.o
> make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.6.8-24.10'
> make: Leaving directory `/tmp/vmware-config1/vmmon-only'
> Unable to build the vmmon module./
> 
> Does anyone have an idea of what I am doing wrong and/or missing? Thanks!

A quick search on google for "Symbol version dump" vmware, the 3rd link
is to the Novell forum.  Try the fixes in this thread...

http://forums.novell.com/group/novell.support.suse.linux.enterprise-server/readerNoFrame.tpt/@[EMAIL
 PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@S-,[EMAIL PROTECTED]/@[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Good luck.

Michael

[LUAU] NewsForge - Hawaii now has its own open source conference

[Michael Bishop]

Daniel just sent me this link:

http://business.newsforge.com/business/05/01/27/2318248.shtml?tid=18&tid=138&tid=2&tid=132

[LUAU] TPOSSCON on OSTG (slashdot, sourceforge, etc.)

[Michael Bishop]

I just saw a banner for TPOSSCON on SourceForge!!

Banner looks great, caught my eye when it came up.

Great job Scott!!

[LUAU] Wood for Servers

[Michael Bishop]

Our wood burning servers need more wood to keep them going... just
kidding...

We need at least 2 shelves for the recently donated rack. We have
supports (old server rails) and we thought to just get some wood planks
to place on top of the supports to make shelves. Shelves must be at
least 23 inches by 19 3/8 inches by at least 3/8 inch with 1/2 inch
preferable.

These shelves will be used to support the servers HOSEF uses to run
classes at McKinley.

Please contact me off list if you can help us put some shelves into our
HOSEF rack.

Thank you.

Michael

Re: [LUAU] Anyone read "Just For Fun"?

[Michael Bishop]

Yes, it is a great read. I recommend it for anyone who wants to know
more about the beginnings of Linux and Linus.

I took away the concept of not coding while tired.

Michael


On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 21:54:01 -1000, "Matt Darnell"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0066620732/qid=1104825066/sr=8-1/ref=pd_csp_1/103-2451292-8711826?v=glance&s=books&n=507846
> 
> Looks like they have it on CD-ROM.
> 
> -Matt

[LUAU] Ubuntu CDs for you

[Michael Bishop]

Finally, they have come:
 - 12 Intel i386 packs with an installation and a Live CD
 - 4 PowerPC installation CD
 - 4 AMD64 Installation CDs

These are beautifully packaged sets. The CD covers are simple and
elegant with lots of contrasts that say, "HERE I AM, INSTALL ME!"

I'm putting 2 PowerPC CDs on the side to go with the 2 G3's heading for
the Ewa Boys and Girls Club. I'm keeping 2 Intel i386 CDs.

The rest are up for grabs. I'll be at McKinley Community School this
Friday and next Friday from 10am - 4pm. Just head up to room 208 and ask
for me. :-)

Michael
429-3030

Re: [LUAU] Mastering SAMBA

[Michael Bishop]

Now that is a deal. Count me in 100%!

On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 01:34:51 -1000, "R. Scott Belford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
said:
> What if you could learn the martial arts from Bruce Lee, cooking from 
> Alan Wong, or Surfing from Eddie Akau?
> 
> Well, the offer is on the table to achieve the equivalent in mastering 
> SAMBA.  The esteemed, revered, and rather entertaining John Terpstra is 
> eager to join us this January for TPOSSCON.  To get him out here, how 
> many of you would pay for the following?:
> 
> > Is there opportunity to run a Samba workshop as a pay-to-attend event?
> > What are your thoughts on making some money from an intense 4 day workshop 
> > to 
> > help people adopt Samba to replace MS Windows and Active Directory
> 
> I would in a second, but I will be too busy with TPOSSCON and the 
> thin-client lab we are setting up for PTC.  Is there interest at, say 
> 250 to 300 a person?  Please say yes, get ready to learn the skills to 
> make some money, and reply in thread.
> 
> http://www.ptc.org/PTC05/sponsor/sponsor_list.html
> 
> http://www.tposscon.com
> 
> --scott
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[LUAU] FYI - Debian-Installer release candidate 2

[Michael Bishop]

This second Debian-Installer release candidate is expected to be the
final release of the installer for Debian 3.1 (sarge). Limited changes
have been made to the installer since the pre-rc2 release last month,
but there are a few:

* Support for LVM volumes on software RAID.
* Experimental support for installing with the 2.6 kernel on the
hppa architecture.
* Lots of improvements to the installation manual, which is now
fully translated to Spanish, French, Japanese, Brazilian Portuguese,
and Czech
* Fixes for most errata items.
* More bug fixes than we care to recall.

Download the latest installer:
http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/

[LUAU] Giving away Apple PowerBook 5300cs

[Michael Bishop]

I have a PowerBook 5300cs that still works, but I just don't use it
anymore. I hate to toss it and I was hoping someone might be able to use
it in some way - playtoy, parts, art, etc. The case/screen/KB is in
mint condition except for some scratches from normal table ware.

Email me in private if you want it.

Michael

[LUAU] Help needed at workshop today 2p-5p

[Michael Bishop]

Much help is needed to day:

 - strip parts from old broken down boxes
 - memtest LTSP clients
 - build up the P3's that will replace the P2's in the lab
 - general moving of equipment here and there
 - setup the massive HP 5 workgroup/workhorse printer -- it's all fixed
 and ready to go
 - setup the backup LTSP server now that the main one is down :-P
 - setup the vserver for the next batch of classes
 - figuring out iptables and NATing -- anyone wanna take a shot at
 iptables?

We'll be setting up space in the back to work and play. Please come if
your able. Thank you.

Michael
429-3030

[LUAU] NEWS: Debian-Installer pre-rc2

[Michael Bishop]

New Debian Net Installer it out, don't forget to read the errata -
http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/errata

Debian-Installer pre-rc2, a technology preview release

September 30th, 2004

The pre-rc2 release is a preview of new features we hope to add to the
next release candidate. This release is an opportunity to get some wider
testing of our most recent improvements to the installer before we
declare it stable and ready for the release of sarge.

In the nearly two months since the release of rc1, we've made a number
of improvements to the installer, including:

* Support for completely automated installs via debconf database
preseeding.
* Online resizing of NTFS filesystems.
* Support for booting from LVM.
* Support for booting from software RAID 1 (experimental).
* Software RAID 5.
* 2.4.27 and 2.6.8.1 kernels.
* Support for piles of additional hardware.
* Fixed all of the errata of rc1.
* Installs possible with at little as 24 mb of memory.
* Two months of improvements to the software in Debian sarge.
* More other improvements than we could list here in a week.

This version of the installer is not suitable to be used as the final
installer for the Debian sarge release; it may have rough edges and not
all the translations are up-to-date. It should work fine for most
people, and we welcome your installation reports.

Links to bootable images and documentation -
http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/

[LUAU] Re: WordPerfect on Linux 12

[Michael Bishop]

Doh, your right, I clicked a link that said it was available for
purchase
and I didn't confirm the sys req's. Looks like at one point they sold it
from their Corel ebay store, which is now closed. I did find someone
selling Corel Linux with Wordperfect 8.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=41881&item=7104220890&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

Michael


On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 12:52:00 -1000, "Patrick Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
said:
> At 10:43 AM 9/28/2004, you wrote:
> >FYI, for those that don't know, Wordperfect 12 is available on Linux.
> >
> >http://store.corel.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10001¤cy=USD&jspStoreDir=FashionFlow&partNumber=OL_WP12&catalogId=10001&ddkey=SetCurrencyPreference
> >
> >Long live Linux.
> >
> >Michael
> 
> Unfortunately, you can no longer buy it.  Corel evidently sold it for 
> around $30 for a short time.
> 
> http://www.corel.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=Corel2/Products/Home&pid=1047023021963
> 
> -Patrick
> 
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[LUAU] WordPerfect on Linux 12

[Michael Bishop]

FYI, for those that don't know, Wordperfect 12 is available on Linux.

http://store.corel.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10001¤cy=USD&jspStoreDir=FashionFlow&partNumber=OL_WP12&catalogId=10001&ddkey=SetCurrencyPreference

Long live Linux.

Michael

[LUAU] Article on CD Burning - Good Info

[Michael Bishop]

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0OUK/is_4_10/ai_115076404

Whenever you are testing or making a critical CD-R (especially one for
archival storage or for replication), burn the discs in disc-at-once
mode instead of track-at-once mode method, which is available in many
audio and duplication applications. Disc-at-once mode will burn the disc
in its entirety without switching the writing laser off. Track-at-once
will burn each track separately; switching the write laser on and off.
Track-at-once produces errors on the disc, often rectified on playback
via error correction. In addition, track-at-once discs do not conform to
the Red Book specifications (the standard for audio CDs), thus making
them incompatible with various players and not excepted by various
duplication facilities.

Re: [LUAU] Burn-fest on Saturday 1pm-5pm

[Michael Bishop]

Doh! Sorry, Saturday at McKinley from 1pm-5pm. We purchased special CDs
to allow for the best burn, we'll have them on Saturday. If anyone wants
to come by and pick up a few to get a head start, I'll be at McKinley
from 10am-4pm.

Michael
429-3030

On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 18:41:36 -1000, "Jim Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
said:
> Michael Bishop wrote:
> > This is a call out to all those with laptops. We are in the process of
> > burning 100 CDs for the Novell conference. Half will be Debian Net
> > Install and the other 50 will be Knoppix. I've finished the first 50 
> > and need help with the last 50.
> > 
> > Please bring your laptop(s) on Saturday from 1pm-5pm and we should be
> > able to crank out the burns in no time.
> 
> Bring my laptop *where*?
> 
> heck, if you've got a pointer to the ISO you want to use, I could 
> probably burn some tonight.
> 
> Jim
> 

[LUAU] Burn-fest on Saturday 1pm-5pm

[Michael Bishop]

This is a call out to all those with laptops. We are in the process of
burning 100 CDs for the Novell conference. Half will be Debian Net
Install and the other 50 will be Knoppix. I've finished the first 50 
and need help with the last 50.

Please bring your laptop(s) on Saturday from 1pm-5pm and we should be
able
to crank out the burns in no time.

Michael

[LUAU] Saturday Workshop Agenda

[Michael Bishop]

Workshop will be from 1pm to 5pm. Lots to do.

We need to:
 - Pull valuables from generic P1's including Hard Drives, PCI cards
 (SCSI, NIC, etc.) and newer RAM.
 - Start testing P2's and branded Dell and IBM P1's. MemTest RAM and
 test NIC to produce a ready to go thin client.

We need volunteers to haul this stuff home to toss in their garbage cans
or ask some benevolent soul to drag a load to the dump.

At 2pm, Jeff "ZeeMan" will be doing a show and tell about Eproms. Check
out his documentation, ( http://www.hosef.org/wiki/EpromBurning ). He'll 
demo pulling chips and flashing them to add to NICs to make them PXE
boot.

See you Saturday.

Michael

Re: [LUAU] PHP class in town

[Michael Bishop]

If you want, I may be able to host the class at McKinley. Gather a list
of people and I'll see what I can do.

Michael


On Tue, 03 Aug 2004 12:30:50 -1000, "Kevin W. English" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
said:
> I'd could teach one if anyone has a venue.
> 
> -- 
> Kevin W. English
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Software Engineer, Servpac.com
> 
> 
> Rodney wrote:
> > I'd like to know this as well.
> > 
> > Rodney
> > 
> > Vikram Khurana wrote:
> > 
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Does anyone know of any place that conducts PHP classes in town?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> vikram
> >>
> >>
> >>
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