Re: [luau] PowerPoint Alternative
On Wed, 21 Aug 2002 08:08:48 -1000, W. Wayne Liauh [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: That Linux would boot up OK, but then lost its screen when it went into the X graphic mode. Now I come to think about this. Perhaps what happened was that I was running 1028x768 mode but the projector only accepted 800x600. Wayne- Did changing your resolution fix that problem? If not, (depending on your laptop) it might have been that the CRT/LCD button wasn't pressed. It should be one of the Function keys on your laptop that you have to press in conjunction with the Fn key. (For my laptop I have to press Fn + F8) When you activate that CRT/LCD button, there are 3 different modes. (You change modes by pressing that combination of keys until you hit the mode you want... for my Dell laptop anyway.) The first mode is a display signal going only to your LCD screen on your laptop and no signal going out of the VGA port, which is what your laptop might have been doing. The second mode is a signal going out of the VGA port, but the LCD screen is completely blank. The third mode is having both LCD CRT signals on. I use the third one because I want to see what slide I'm at, and not have to look at the projector screen. Trying testing this function out with a VGA monitor hooked up to your laptop. I apologize if you knew this CRT/LCD thing beforehand. A little something not directly related to this: I'm dual booting Linux Windows ME on this laptop. On Friday, I had a last-minute presentation to give, but realized that A) I don't have MS PowerPoint and B) I could not install PowerPoint because I left my CD-drive at home. So I was running around like a chicken without its head, trying to share Office 2000 over our network in order to install it onto my laptop. Then it suddenly hit me: I have StarOffice!! So that really saved my butt, and the presentation came out great. (Phew!) :] Elayne Man Mililani High School [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [luau] PowerPoint Alternative
Joe Linux wrote: I used Apple computers for many years and was very satisfied with them other than the fact that they are a single source proprietary supplier. Looking at Mac and comparing that system to M$'s poorly working alleged system, I think the entire world would have been better off without M$. Just for the record, I have been using Linux based systems exclusively for the past two years. Somebody wrote: ALL YOU LINUX GUYS SHOULD BE THANKFUL FOR MS! Think about it! MS lets ppl complete their jobs by allowing thousands of apps/hardware to be created and utilized. Linux is soo way behind (while linux gurus are slowly developing a better apps etc.. you got guys on MS that are mastering the app's skills they need to do their job) Yes Linux may be a better built OS but MS is a much better USED OS; to regular users not gurus like MonMotha perhaps. People who need to get things done use MS. Live in New York for awhile, technology is a tool to get businesses running. ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau We have used Linux/Unix here for 4 years. Last time I looked MS was a crippling and mostly deadly disease aflicting young adults. Strange that it is the same designation as the proprietary OS. Aloha! Al Plant - Webmaster http://hawaiidakine.com Providing FAST DSL Service for $28.00 /mo. Member Small Business Hawaii. Running FreeBSD 4.5 UNIX Caldera Linux 2.4 RedHat 7.2 Support OPEN SOURCE in Business Computing. Phone 808-622-0043
RE: [luau] PowerPoint Alternative
I used Apple computers for many years and was very satisfied with them other than the fact that they are a single source proprietary supplier. Looking at Mac and comparing that system to M$'s poorly working alleged system, I think the entire world would have been better off without M$. Just for the record, I have been using Linux based systems exclusively for the past two years. Somebody wrote: ALL YOU LINUX GUYS SHOULD BE THANKFUL FOR MS! Think about it! MS lets ppl complete their jobs by allowing thousands of apps/hardware to be created and utilized. Linux is soo way behind (while linux gurus are slowly developing a better apps etc.. you got guys on MS that are mastering the app's skills they need to do their job) Yes Linux may be a better built OS but MS is a much better USED OS; to regular users not gurus like MonMotha perhaps. People who need to get things done use MS. Live in New York for awhile, technology is a tool to get businesses running. ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau We have used Linux/Unix here for 4 years. Last time I looked MS was a crippling and mostly deadly disease aflicting young adults. Strange that it is the same designation as the proprietary OS. That's lame. Use the internet and do some reading. MS is billion dollar company, must I explain to you how they got there? hint THE MASSES my friend. Certain individuals probably never used windows to get by, but NOT THE MASSES!!! I also bet that most of your customers are on windows. Few of my friends work or have worked for local ISPs here, 90% of their cliental are on Windows. So saying that you are making your living off of something relating to an afficting deadly disease is really lame.
Re: [luau] PowerPoint Alternative
On Tue, 20 Aug 2002 19:44:41 -1000 W. Wayne Liauh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am sure many of us were mightly pissed off every time we were giving a talk. We were always asked to submit a PowerPoint file. (A friend of mine who teaches at Univ. of Waterloo recently told me that all the comp sci majors have to take a couple of courses of C# before they can graduate, b/c Microsoft just donated $2.1 million to the school. That REALLY pissed me off!) In the past, I have been (not always successful) able to use html files, generated by the vanilla Netscape composer, to give my talks. Does anyone know any other alternative(s)? Or any better way to utilize Netscape? Yes, the presentation builder portion of OpenOffice/StarOffice, but I am sure you know that from your Word Perfect OpenOffice/StarOffice comparative evaluations. -- Gary 8:24am up 5 days, 12:35, 3 users, load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.01 --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus]
RE: [luau] PowerPoint Alternative
Star Office comes with an alternative to PowerPoint doesn't it ? And i thought i saw something once called KPresenter (not sure on this one so) Florian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of W. Wayne Liauh Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 12:45 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [luau] PowerPoint Alternative I am sure many of us were mightly pissed off every time we were giving a talk. We were always asked to submit a PowerPoint file. (A friend of mine who teaches at Univ. of Waterloo recently told me that all the comp sci majors have to take a couple of courses of C# before they can graduate, b/c Microsoft just donated $2.1 million to the school. That REALLY pissed me off!) In the past, I have been (not always successful) able to use html files, generated by the vanilla Netscape composer, to give my talks. Does anyone know any other alternative(s)? Or any better way to utilize Netscape? ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau
[luau] PowerPoint Alternative
Perhaps a better question that should have been posted is, Does anyone know how to make presentation quality HTML files, i.e., to prepare a HTML file that can be used in presentations? PowerPoint has a lot of limitations. (You can see that, b/c Microsoft has no competition, it really slacks further development effort. This is the weakness of a monopolistic monster.) However, this is not my point. Ideally, I would like to use my Linux notebook during my talk. However, it may not work (and in all my cases, has not worked) with the projector provided by the host. (b/f I go further, does anyone know how to solve this problem?) Unless I am willing to do a dual-boot, in which case I can use WordPerfect's Presentation which actually does a better job than PowerPoint, I must give the file which contains my talk to the host, and let them run the show for me. An HTML file is probably the only option, if I don't (and I won't) yield to their request of giving them a PowerPoint file. Don't know whether my above thoughts made any sense. But basically, I want to create an HTML file, with which I can control/confine each slide within a screen, use the page-down key to move from one slide/screen to the next, and quickly jump from one slide/screen to another. Is this possible?
Re: [luau] PowerPoint Alternative
On Wednesday 21 August 2002 07:40, you wrote: Ideally, I would like to use my Linux notebook during my talk. However, it may not work (and in all my cases, has not worked) with the projector provided by the host. (b/f I go further, does anyone know how to solve this problem?) I have to wonder why you can't use StarOffice 6 for your presentations. If the projector accepts the standard vga output on your laptop (if you have one), then I am confused about the problem. If the projector accepts only s-video or standard rca jacks, then I could see a problem directing your video output to one of those interfaces whilst in Linux. Don't know whether my above thoughts made any sense. But basically, I want to create an HTML file, with which I can control/confine each slide within a screen, use the page-down key to move from one slide/screen to the next, and quickly jump from one slide/screen to another. Is this possible? I haven't checked yet, but I wonder if StarOffice can save presentations as html files like ppoint does. scott ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau
[luau] PowerPoint Alternative
I have to wonder why you can't use StarOffice 6 for your presentations. If the projector accepts the standard vga output on your laptop (if you have one), then I am confused about the problem. If the projector accepts only s-video or standard rca jacks, then I could see a problem directing your video output to one of those interfaces whilst in Linux. That Linux would boot up OK, but then lost its screen when it went into the X graphic mode. Now I come to think about this. Perhaps what happened was that I was running 1028x768 mode but the projector only accepted 800x600.
Re: [luau] PowerPoint Alternative
I did my presentation using gqview and I worked the slides up in gimp It worked very nicely and gave me great control over the presentation. What's nice abut gqview is that it has a full screen mode so your slides look really nice, and you can click them ahead at your own pace, or you could even have it move ahead by itself if you actually wanted it that way. W. Wayne Liauh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Re: [luau] PowerPoint Alternative
On Wed, 21 Aug 2002 07:40:24 -1000 W. Wayne Liauh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps a better question that should have been posted is, Does anyone know how to make presentation quality HTML files, i.e., to prepare a HTML file that can be used in presentations? PowerPoint has a lot of limitations. (You can see that, b/c Microsoft has no competition, it really slacks further development effort. This is the weakness of a monopolistic monster.) However, this is not my point. Ideally, I would like to use my Linux notebook during my talk. However, it may not work (and in all my cases, has not worked) with the projector provided by the host. (b/f I go further, does anyone know how to solve this problem?) Unless I am willing to do a dual-boot, in which case I can use WordPerfect's Presentation which actually does a better job than PowerPoint, I must give the file which contains my talk to the host, and let them run the show for me. An HTML file is probably the only option, if I don't (and I won't) yield to their request of giving them a PowerPoint file. Don't know whether my above thoughts made any sense. But basically, I want to create an HTML file, with which I can control/confine each slide within a screen, use the page-down key to move from one slide/screen to the next, and quickly jump from one slide/screen to another. Is this possible? Wayne, This is starting to get a little frustrating, sorry but it is starting to look like you are looking for problems instead of solutions. OpenOffice presentation builder will probably do everything you want, handle powerpoint files in and out, generate its own format slide presentation, and if you want a html slide show, it will do that also. -- Gary 4:17pm up 5 days, 20:27, 3 users, load average: 0.00, 0.07, 0.07 --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus]
RE: [luau] PowerPoint Alternative
PowerPoint has a lot of limitations. (You can see that, b/c Microsoft has no competition, it really slacks further development effort. This is the weakness of a monopolistic monster.) True. What is also true is that a BIG company will have more resources and the 'monies' to fund RD far more than what a small company can do. Hence, you can get a better product - ever took a business class? Big companies (presently) will not make a product and not develop it further - just because there is no competition. There is the consumer that they need to sell it too, they will develop it further if no one buys their stuff or there are tools that need to be added. You never seen products that didn't need much development because they already suited the need?? Common man, this kind of attitude is what really screws businesses up. MS a monopoly boohoo, dude without MS you would never be running that 1GHZ system! You will never have seen the hardware/application tech explosion you see currently! While I agree with Warren that they do have unfair practices, ALL YOU LINUX GUYS SHOULD BE THANKFUL FOR MS! Think about it! MS lets ppl complete their jobs by allowing thousands of apps/hardware to be created and utilized. Linux is soo way behind (while linux gurus are slowly developing a better apps etc.. you got guys on MS that are mastering the app's skills they need to do their job) Yes Linux may be a better built OS but MS is a much better USED OS; to regular users not gurus like MonMotha perhaps. People who need to get things done use MS. Live in New York for awhile, technology is a tool to get businesses running. Linux rocks and so does MS. Sorry? Randall
Re: [luau] PowerPoint Alternative
But basically, I want to create an HTML file, with which I can control/confine each slide within a screen, use the page-down key to move from one slide/screen to the next, and quickly jump from one slide/screen to another. Is this possible? Well, I think you might have to do some manual JavaScript editing to get the page-down effect to work, but you can always write your documents in LaTeX and convert them to html slides. Alternatively, if you are willing to do PDF (which most computers have readers for), there are a lot of options (and you get your page-down functionality for free). A quick search of google produced this page: http://www.miwie.org/presentations/presentations.html --Ray
[luau] PowerPoint Alternative
Actually, I might have found a very interesting alternative. This thought is to use the tab feature of Mozilla. I can pre-load all the slides into corresponding tabs. For a long talk, I can further sort related tabs into seperate window. One problem, I don't know how to switch (w/o using a mouse) between tabs/windows. Preparing the HTML documents is not a problem; there are plenty of tools. But putting them together so that they can be presented in an orderly fashion is the problem. As George mentioned, gqview would do a very good job, but it lacks the flexibility of switching between non-contiguous slides. With HTML/Mozilla, of course, you can embed animations, sound, and hyperlinks. The last feature is important if I want to show a document in pdf format.
[luau] PowerPoint Alternative
I am sure many of us were mightly pissed off every time we were giving a talk. We were always asked to submit a PowerPoint file. (A friend of mine who teaches at Univ. of Waterloo recently told me that all the comp sci majors have to take a couple of courses of C# before they can graduate, b/c Microsoft just donated $2.1 million to the school. That REALLY pissed me off!) In the past, I have been (not always successful) able to use html files, generated by the vanilla Netscape composer, to give my talks. Does anyone know any other alternative(s)? Or any better way to utilize Netscape?
