Re: [LUAU] Slingbox @ CompUSA
Jim Thompson wrote: On Sep 23, 2005, at 7:46 AM, Hawaii Linux Institute wrote: Jim Thompson wrote: C) Build a MythTV box. Record what you want, when you want, compress at will. Actually MythTV may be the best option, all things considered. (When are you going to give your "M"TV demo?) Wayne Whenever Scott schedules it (with appropriate warning for me, please.) We can pick our venue for this. Jim will be speaking at the Open Source Pizza on the third Tuesday of October, so that knocks out that locale for a month. This could be a great 'first' Commercial Linux topic now that this monthly event, to be hosted by Commercial Data Systems, is being finalized. If not one of these, then a Saturday session at McKinley can always be arranged. This is a good topic for TPOSSCON, especially because we plan to have a lot of hands-on activities, but January is too far away. Jim --scott
Re: [LUAU] Slingbox @ CompUSA
On Sep 23, 2005, at 7:46 AM, Hawaii Linux Institute wrote: Jim Thompson wrote: C) Build a MythTV box. Record what you want, when you want, compress at will. Actually MythTV may be the best option, all things considered. (When are you going to give your "M"TV demo?) Wayne Whenever Scott schedules it (with appropriate warning for me, please.) Jim
Re: [LUAU] Slingbox @ CompUSA
Jim Thompson wrote: C) Build a MythTV box. Record what you want, when you want, compress at will. Actually MythTV may be the best option, all things considered. (When are you going to give your "M"TV demo?) Wayne
Re: [LUAU] Slingbox @ CompUSA
On Sep 22, 2005, at 9:52 PM, Hawaii Linux Institute wrote: Jim Thompson wrote: DTV (like HDTV without the H) has to be supported by any new TeeVee > 13" and all other receivers (such as VCRs, DV Ds, etc.) by 2007. HDTV (by which I mean at least 720p) is a different animal, of course. The first two solutions below will decode > 480p, but getting a broadcaster to *send* 720p, 1080i or 1080p is a different kettle of fish. (But hey, I'm over here on the rainy/ windward side, and DTV is hard to come by anyway.) DTV on linux can be had for $170 per card (with up to 4 cards in a system, for those of you who want to build a MythTV box.) http:// www.pchdtv.com/hd_3000.html If you're way itno "just do it in software" (and damn the Broadcast Flag, for when they eventually get it passed), then you could spend about $650 on a USSR + TVRX from ETTUS Research: http://www.ettus.com/ These run GNU Radio http://www.gnu.org/software/gnuradio/ I may end up with one for some "experimentation". When I do, I'll see about bringing it to some meeting or other. Of course, you'll learn more watching the *other* screen. :-) Since I sorta mentioned Software Defined Radio (GNU Radio implements a SDR) I should also mention a plethora of SDR-based information here: http://www.arrl.org/tis/info/sdr.html And of course, what every geek HAM wants for Christmas: http:// www.flex-radio.com/ (Also has a full GPLed SDR stack.) Good info, but I am afraid you might have strayed a little in the opposite direction, Jim(my the Geek). :-) Tim & I were not talking about (H)DTV, but how to find a cheap way to stream video signals received from Oceanic Cable, at reduced resolution if necessary, so we can watch our favorite programs when out of town. As I mentioned, currently there are two commercial solutions: slingbox and orb. The former is a standalone unit but requires a static IP; whereas, the latter requires a PC but does not appear to require a static IP. Both require a proprietary program to be installed at the client as well the server sites. I believe this program involves compression, making it possible to transmit TV signals via home-based broadbands. Wayne C) Build a MythTV box. Record what you want, when you want, compress at will. (Use the (H)DTV card to record OTA broadcasts...) Or... watch less TeeVee. Might be good for you.
Re: [LUAU] Slingbox @ CompUSA
Jim Thompson wrote: DTV (like HDTV without the H) has to be supported by any new TeeVee > 13" and all other receivers (such as VCRs, DV Ds, etc.) by 2007. HDTV (by which I mean at least 720p) is a different animal, of course. The first two solutions below will decode > 480p, but getting a broadcaster to *send* 720p, 1080i or 1080p is a different kettle of fish. (But hey, I'm over here on the rainy/windward side, and DTV is hard to come by anyway.) DTV on linux can be had for $170 per card (with up to 4 cards in a system, for those of you who want to build a MythTV box.) http://www.pchdtv.com/hd_3000.html If you're way itno "just do it in software" (and damn the Broadcast Flag, for when they eventually get it passed), then you could spend about $650 on a USSR + TVRX from ETTUS Research: http://www.ettus.com/ These run GNU Radio http://www.gnu.org/software/gnuradio/ I may end up with one for some "experimentation". When I do, I'll see about bringing it to some meeting or other. Of course, you'll learn more watching the *other* screen. :-) Since I sorta mentioned Software Defined Radio (GNU Radio implements a SDR) I should also mention a plethora of SDR-based information here: http://www.arrl.org/tis/info/sdr.html And of course, what every geek HAM wants for Christmas: http://www.flex-radio.com/ (Also has a full GPLed SDR stack.) Good info, but I am afraid you might have strayed a little in the opposite direction, Jim(my the Geek). :-) Tim & I were not talking about (H)DTV, but how to find a cheap way to stream video signals received from Oceanic Cable, at reduced resolution if necessary, so we can watch our favorite programs when out of town. As I mentioned, currently there are two commercial solutions: slingbox and orb. The former is a standalone unit but requires a static IP; whereas, the latter requires a PC but does not appear to require a static IP. Both require a proprietary program to be installed at the client as well the server sites. I believe this program involves compression, making it possible to transmit TV signals via home-based broadbands. Wayne
Re: [LUAU] Slingbox @ CompUSA
Tim Newsham wrote: Interesting product. Unfortunately my wee little uplink from verizon just wouldn't cut it. This is something I am very much interested in finding out. 768kbs may not be as bad as we think (depends on the compression I suppose). There is another option called ORB, which requires a PC at the transmitting end. The Sling is a standalone box. My uplink is consideraly slower than 768kbps. Try 160kbps-ish. This is why they invented BitTorrent I've often wondered why PBS dumps a ton of money into HDTV instead of streaming their content online. Streaming video is for the general public, whereas HDTV is for those who can afford one. When the president of CPB used to be a co-chainperson of the you-know-what party, which way do you think the funding is going to go. You can blame in on the reps if you want, but the HDTV push happened under the dems in the late 90s. "What!?" you say, "The democratic senators are against us [EMAIL PROTECTED]" Yah, its a shocker. DTV (like HDTV without the H) has to be supported by any new TeeVee > 13" and all other receivers (such as VCRs, DV Ds, etc.) by 2007. HDTV (by which I mean at least 720p) is a different animal, of course. The first two solutions below will decode > 480p, but getting a broadcaster to *send* 720p, 1080i or 1080p is a different kettle of fish. (But hey, I'm over here on the rainy/windward side, and DTV is hard to come by anyway.) DTV on linux can be had for $170 per card (with up to 4 cards in a system, for those of you who want to build a MythTV box.) http://www.pchdtv.com/hd_3000.html If you're way itno "just do it in software" (and damn the Broadcast Flag, for when they eventually get it passed), then you could spend about $650 on a USSR + TVRX from ETTUS Research: http://www.ettus.com/ These run GNU Radio http://www.gnu.org/software/gnuradio/ I may end up with one for some "experimentation". When I do, I'll see about bringing it to some meeting or other. Of course, you'll learn more watching the *other* screen. :-) Since I sorta mentioned Software Defined Radio (GNU Radio implements a SDR) I should also mention a plethora of SDR-based information here: http://www.arrl.org/tis/info/sdr.html And of course, what every geek HAM wants for Christmas: http://www.flex-radio.com/ (Also has a full GPLed SDR stack.) Jim
Re: [LUAU] Slingbox @ CompUSA
Interesting product. Unfortunately my wee little uplink from verizon just wouldn't cut it. This is something I am very much interested in finding out. 768kbs may not be as bad as we think (depends on the compression I suppose). There is another option called ORB, which requires a PC at the transmitting end. The Sling is a standalone box. My uplink is consideraly slower than 768kbps. Try 160kbps-ish. I've often wondered why PBS dumps a ton of money into HDTV instead of streaming their content online. Streaming video is for the general public, whereas HDTV is for those who can afford one. When the president of CPB used to be a co-chainperson of the you-know-what party, which way do you think the funding is going to go. You can blame in on the reps if you want, but the HDTV push happened under the dems in the late 90s. "What!?" you say, "The democratic senators are against us [EMAIL PROTECTED]" Yah, its a shocker. Tim Newsham http://www.lava.net/~newsham/
Re: [LUAU] Slingbox @ CompUSA
Tim Newsham wrote: Interesting product. Unfortunately my wee little uplink from verizon just wouldn't cut it. This is something I am very much interested in finding out. 768kbs may not be as bad as we think (depends on the compression I suppose). There is another option called ORB, which requires a PC at the transmitting end. The Sling is a standalone box. I've often wondered why PBS dumps a ton of money into HDTV instead of streaming their content online. Streaming video is for the general public, whereas HDTV is for those who can afford one. When the president of CPB used to be a co-chainperson of the you-know-what party, which way do you think the funding is going to go. Wayne (The last comment is clearly improper here, will never do that again. Too much Katrina/FEMA.)
Re: [LUAU] Slingbox @ CompUSA
When I travel (especially to overseas), I often wish that I could connect to Oceanic Cable. OTOH, when here, it is close to impossibility to try to watch TV shows broadcast in China or Taiwan. The Slingbox seems to answer these needs. Interesting product. Unfortunately my wee little uplink from verizon just wouldn't cut it. If I lived in a forward looking country like South Korea where broadband really meant broadband perhaps this would work a bit better. Or perhaps I wouldn't even need it. I've often wondered why PBS dumps a ton of money into HDTV instead of streaming their content online. (Well not really; "congress" would be the answer to that). There are so many great PBS shows that just don't make it here. Tim Newsham http://www.lava.net/~newsham/
