obi 1.2 release candidate

2013-12-16 Thread Nio Wiklund
Hi everybody,

I have realized that many of you who are active at the Lubuntu mail
forums and the Ubuntu Forums need dual- or multi-boot for your linux
distro/flavour. So I have made a release candidate of the One Button
Installer (to become version 1.2), that can do it, not by itself, but
together with gparted.

1 - Edit and create partitions with gparted

2 - Install a tarball with the OBI to partitions, that are selected
automatically or manually.

-
Basic and advanced OBI level

Most users are recommended to use the *basic* OBI level. This means that
the OBI will install a system from a tarball into a whole device,
typically an internal hard disk drive or a USB 3 pendrive.

In the *advanced* level the OBI will let you select the partitions. It
means that you can install a system from a tarball into two partitions,
one root file partition and one swap partition. This way it is possible
to create a *dual boot* device with an existing (already installed)
operating system. It is also possible to create a separate
*data partition*, that can be used by linux as well as Windows.

The intention with the advanced level is to edit and create partitions
with *Gparted* (booted from a 'regular' boot CD/DVD/USB device). One
partition is labelled 'obi-root' and one (smaller) partition is labelled
'obi-swap'. Such partitions can be identified and selected automatically
in the advanced level, but manual selection is also possible.
-

You find it here:

http://phillw.net/isos/one-button-installer/rc/

If you test the advanced OBI level, please tell me what is bad,
confusing or buggy, so that I can improve it!

Best regards
Nio

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Re: A few Lubuntu Menu things...

2013-12-16 Thread Israel
Maybe we can simply make new icons for the box icon theme, if there
isn't a simple way to edit the icon size.  But I think imagemagik can
resize things... or at least I think that is what the packaging files
use to make icons.  If you could remember (or find) which ones caused
problems, we could start a list of icons that are unruly, and work on
getting some made up for the Box icon theme, so at least the programs in
the repos wont look awful.  I too remember installing some stuff for my
kids that looked bad, too... but I can't remember what it was.  I also
remember some of the music programs I have used had weird icons.  I am
starting the list with the two programs I have installed currently that
are larger than the usual size.

So here is the list so far:
*Not in repos:*
Greenfoot


*in the Repos:*
meterbridge
alsamixergui (not too bad)



On 12/16/2013 12:47 AM, Eric Bradshaw wrote:
 I'd like to chime in with my agreement on the icon sizes in the menu
 before the message below gets lost too far down in the shuffle. There
 were certain games (and I believe maybe an educational app or two) I
 had originally installed for my kids that I then removed specifically
 because of icon size. It was more than just not aesthetically
 pleasing; my kids would think (know?) there was something wrong with
 the computer.

 If I hadn't been installing a slew of stuff at once (and none of them
 were must have apps) - and my own kids were the only people I was
 worried about installing for; I would've made my own icon (or at least
 resized them) for these. I would think what you have to go through
 sometimes for .desktop entry files and icon creation would be pretty
 scary for a newcomer. Eric -- Message: 3
 Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2013 10:35:52 -0600 From: Israel
 israeld...@gmail.com To: lubuntu user list
 lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: A few Lubuntu Menu things...
 Message-ID: 52ac88e8.9050...@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain;
 charset=ISO-8859-1 Hey everyone, there are a few issues I'd like to
 address. The first is the Ubuntu SDK and the Core Apps that can be
 installed. The menu does not show all the Core Apps. It does show the
 browser, however. I cannot seem to find any of the other applications
 (i.e. the calculator). I posted a bug about it, but as it received no
 attention it expired... https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1200780 The
 second is the menu... when an app has a HUGE icon, the menu becomes
 ridiculous. I have installed an app called Greenfoot, in hopes of
 getting my kids into programming one day. The icon makes the menu take
 up approximately 1/4 of the screen. I think there should be a way to
 limit the size of icons in the menu, or force icons to display at a
 standard size. There are ways to do this in the rules file for debian
 packages when making them, so it seems like adding something to the
 menu updating script could address this problem. I am not sure how to
 do this, or if it is truly possible... but I figured I should post
 something here, as there has been a lot of talk about converting
 Windows users. And while these issues aren't show stoppers... having
 an icon force the menu to take up a large part of the screen would
 make the user feel like they are using a buggy OS, that lacks polish.
 I know using the box icon theme will address this issue for most
 available apps (thank you whoever made the penguin card game icons
 look so much better... Rafael?), but Ubuntu is the most popular
 GNU/Linux distro and so many third party apps make a deb package for
 Ubuntu that can be downloaded and installed from their website (i.e.
 Greenfoot). To be fair Unity also shows the greenfoot icon as a huge
 blob, but it limits the size shown, and the issue is not present in
 the side panel, only the dash when searching for it. People who come
 to Lubuntu/Ubuntu will expect an experience similar to their previous
 OS, so having something to convert icons to the appropriate size.
 psuedocode: get(app.iconSize){ if (iconSize  maxIconSize)
 {resize(iconSize);} else{return;} }




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Re: latest chromium-browser using high cpu on any page

2013-12-16 Thread Nio Wiklund
+1

Great inspiration Aere :-)

Best regards/Nio

2013-12-16 14:45, David Yentzen skrev:
 @Aere
   Thank you for the detailed reply about developing. You provided some
 great insight for those, like me, that are interested in exploring this
 idea. Time availability is for me is the issue, like you, I am a bit of
 an old timer being 27 years into my career---the thought of switching
 career paths would be unpleasant. This pursuit would be purely a
 hobbyist (and intellectually enjoyable) venture. 
  
 
 Sincerely,
 David 
 
 
 On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 9:41 PM, Israel israeld...@gmail.com
 mailto:israeld...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Thanks!!  That was very inspiring!  It is good to nudge people like me
 to continue on learning how to do it.  I think it was very good advice
 to take some working applications you wrote and convert them into other
 languages, that is a great idea!
 
 As a side note, are any of you applications ones available in the
 repos?  If not you should consider submitting them, if it wouldn't take
 too much work to make it compatible with Linux (if it isn't already)
 
 On 12/15/2013 09:26 PM, Aere Greenway wrote:
  On 12/15/2013 06:27 PM, Israel wrote:
  There is no starting place too small or big, I myself am not really a
  developer yet, either... I am in the process of learning C++ and
  furthering my web dev skills (HTML,CSS,JavaScript), so learning to
  program well is the definite place to start.
  Getting involved in small projects is a good way to begin.
  The Ubuntu SDK is pretty easy as a place to start making function
  apps with nice interfaces with only needing to know some JavaScript.
  I forwarded your message to the list, as I thought it was for the
  list(the subject), but it may have been a personal message... sorry
  if I shouldn't have forwarded it... I didn't realize it until after I
  forwarded it..
 
  All:
 
  As a developer, I don't presume to be able to prescribe a way you can
  get into the business successfully.  But I can tell you what I did,
  which was successful for me, in my case.
 
  I am probably more of an old-timer than most of you.
 
  I went to college in the 60's, and got a job at Univac (the original
  company name).  I 'rode the wave' of mainframe internal software,
  later specializing in communications software.
 
  But all of that was proprietary software (and microcode), and mostly
  in assembly language.
 
  So when they started laying-off people, I had over 32 years experience
  in software development, but not in modern languages, and without
  recent, relevant, college training.
 
  Yet I did get a job as a Java developer, writing interfaces between
  hospital computer systems.
 
  Here's how I did it.
 
  In my last years at Unisys, seeing the 'writing on the wall', I
  learned (on my own, on my home computer) C++.
 
  Being a computer hobbyist, I had written various video games (and AI
  programs) in C and assembly language, on my home computer.
 
  So I had complex, working applications, written in C.  C++ is not that
  big of a jump from C, so I converted several of those applications to
  C++.  I even developed a methodology for converting C programs to C++.
 
  Though being experienced in C++ was useful, it wasn't enough to get a
  job.  In my job application experience, C++ seemed to be getting
  less-important.
 
  Fortunately, other modern programming languages (JavaScript, Java, and
  C#) are not really all that different from C++.  In fact, they are so
  similar that you can get confused as to which language you are using,
  and how you do similar things in the different languages.
 
  So I took those same programs I converted from C to C++, and converted
  them to JavaScript, Java, and C#.
 
  By converting working programs, very little time was involved in
  fixing logic-errors.  Most of the debugging was in errors relating to
  the differences in the programming-languages used.  So my time was
  efficiently used in learning the details of each programming language.
 
  When I finally had four complex applications developed in each of the
  languages, employers started to be interested in my resume.  Of
  course, my 32 years of experience was useful as well (but my lack of
  recent college training was a negative too).
 
  Those applications I developed, I could demonstrate as evidence of my
  work, and my abilities.  The context-sensitive help functionality
  seemed to impress them most.
 
  I eventually got a job as a developer.
 
  I am retired now, and am still doing software development.  This time,
  something nearer to my passion, with which I think to change the world
  (lofty goals).  

can not connect bluetooth earphone

2013-12-16 Thread Gary Kirkpatrick
I have a little bluetoothbearphone.  Bluetooth manager recognizes the
device, will add it but will not connect.  I can use it in ubuntu 12.04 so
I know it works.  The bluetooth keyboard works.  I have uninstalled and
installed it several times.  It never shows up in Pulse, and I have killed
pulse before installing it just to see if that would help.

Any suggestions appreciated.



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Re: can not connect bluetooth earphone

2013-12-16 Thread Israel
If it works in Ubuntu it will work in Lubuntu, it seem one of two things
is happening.
1. you have some things installed in Unity, that you don't in your
Lubuntu install (assuming they are on different machines/partitions)
2. it is configured differently in the Lubuntu session, or there is
something circumventing the current setup (assuming they are different
sessions)

So, first things first, we need to know a bit more about your current setup.
What version of Lubuntu are you currently using?
Do you have Ubuntu and Lubuntu installed on the same machine?  Are they
in different partitions (do you choose from the boot-up GRUB menu to
choose between Lubuntu and Ubuntu)?

So... do you have bluez installed (I assume you do)?  If so you might
check to make sure you have installed some of the other packages as
well.  You may need the gnome support for bluetooth installed to get it
to work, as well...

So give us a bit more info on your current setup, and that will help us
to help you figure out your issue.
I don't have bluetooth devices, so I can't test it myself, though
someone else might have encountered this specific issue before.

On 12/16/2013 09:44 AM, Gary Kirkpatrick wrote:

 I have a little bluetoothbearphone.  Bluetooth manager recognizes the
 device, will add it but will not connect.  I can use it in ubuntu
 12.04 so I know it works.  The bluetooth keyboard works.  I have
 uninstalled and installed it several times.  It never shows up in
 Pulse, and I have killed pulse before installing it just to see if
 that would help. 

 Any suggestions appreciated.



 garyk



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Re: can not connect bluetooth earphone

2013-12-16 Thread Aere Greenway

On 12/16/2013 08:44 AM, Gary Kirkpatrick wrote:


I have a little bluetoothbearphone.  Bluetooth manager recognizes the 
device, will add it but will not connect.  I can use it in ubuntu 
12.04 so I know it works.  The bluetooth keyboard works.  I have 
uninstalled and installed it several times.  It never shows up in 
Pulse, and I have killed pulse before installing it just to see if 
that would help.


Any suggestions appreciated.



garyk



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Garyk:

Do you also have the pavucontrol package (PulseAudio Volume Control) 
installed as well?  It doesn't come by-default with PulseAudio, because 
each other Ubuntu variant (except Lubuntu) has its own utility for doing 
the same thing.


You probably already thought of that, given the things you said you 
tried, but I'm just making sure the more obvious things are taken care of.


That being said, what I am saying is just from my experience of handling 
multiple sound cards.  I have never yet used BlueTooth.


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Re: can not connect bluetooth earphone

2013-12-16 Thread Aere Greenway

On 12/16/2013 10:58 AM, Aere Greenway wrote:

On 12/16/2013 08:44 AM, Gary Kirkpatrick wrote:


I have a little bluetoothbearphone.  Bluetooth manager recognizes the 
device, will add it but will not connect.  I can use it in ubuntu 
12.04 so I know it works.  The bluetooth keyboard works.  I have 
uninstalled and installed it several times.  It never shows up in 
Pulse, and I have killed pulse before installing it just to see if 
that would help.


Any suggestions appreciated.



garyk



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Garyk:

Do you also have the pavucontrol package (PulseAudio Volume Control) 
installed as well?  It doesn't come by-default with PulseAudio, 
because each other Ubuntu variant (except Lubuntu) has its own utility 
for doing the same thing.


You probably already thought of that, given the things you said you 
tried, but I'm just making sure the more obvious things are taken care 
of.


That being said, what I am saying is just from my experience of 
handling multiple sound cards.  I have never yet used BlueTooth.


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Garyk:

I enjoyed looking at your artwork.  Thanks for the link.

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