Re: [lubuntu-users] 18.04 LTS support length? (uninvol...@outlook.com)

[uninvol...@outlook.com]

OK, glad to hear that, but if you were following the gist of it, you **might** be able to upgrade to the 
newest LTS . . . and then simply add "lxde" . . . and you would have the tried and true, but 
"olden" "lxde" GUI, stacked on the freshest LTS??

It might be as simple as "sudo apt install lxde" . . . but it might be something like 
"sudo apt install lxde-desktop-environment"  ???  If you looked in synaptic it might show 
you how it would like to be commanded.

But possibly the difference between "lxde" and what is offered now, "lxqt desktop" might 
be minimal and provide extended support, over the choice for "lxde"???  The great joy of all 
flavors linux is almost unlimited choices and any choice made can be changed, etc.


I like to run a build that stays close to the defaults, but I'm likely to end 
up finding a way to keep LXDE going in perpetuity - unless there are security 
issues with it. It's a pretty mature DE and hopefully I can keep it going.

I've tried LXQt and, well, I didn't find it appealing. I'll continue to test 
it, as time allows.

LXDE helps me make things simple and elegant, so that I can get a DE like this 
pretty easily:
http://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/original/1590451304.png

Meh... Maybe I'm just old and stuck in my ways. I'll keep LXQt in mind and test 
it again soon.

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Re: [lubuntu-users] 18.04 LTS support length? (uninvol...@outlook.com)

[Fritz Hudnut]

Posting below the data posted above it . . . for the OP . . . .



> > Always interesting to see how OPs seem to disappear on ubuntu forums,
> and it winds up RPs discussing the topic . . . .
>
> Oh, I'm still here. My question was already answered and Thunderbird keeps
> stuffing these into the junk mail section.
>
> Also, once it replied to the respondents email address as I forgot to
> change it.
>
> But no, no I'm still here.
>

OK, glad to hear that, but if you were following the gist of it, you
**might** be able to upgrade to the newest LTS . . . and then simply add
"lxde" . . . and you would have the tried and true, but "olden" "lxde" GUI,
stacked on the freshest LTS??

It might be as simple as "sudo apt install lxde" . . . but it might be
something like "sudo apt install lxde-desktop-environment"  ???  If you
looked in synaptic it might show you how it would like to be commanded.

But possibly the difference between "lxde" and what is offered now, "lxqt
desktop" might be minimal and provide extended support, over the choice for
"lxde"???  The great joy of all flavors linux is almost unlimited choices
and any choice made can be changed, etc.



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Re: [lubuntu-users] 18.04 LTS support length? (uninvol...@outlook.com)

[uninvol...@outlook.com]

Always interesting to see how OPs seem to disappear on ubuntu forums, and it 
winds up RPs discussing the topic . . . .


Oh, I'm still here. My question was already answered and Thunderbird keeps 
stuffing these into the junk mail section.

Also, once it replied to the respondents email address as I forgot to change it.

But no, no I'm still here.

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Re: [lubuntu-users] 18.04 LTS support length? (uninvol...@outlook.com)

[Walter Lapchynski]

On May 24, 2020 8:14:41 AM PDT, Fritz Hudnut  wrote:
>  So, the "question" might be how radically different is the
>debian based "lxde" from the possibly lubuntu engineered "lxqt desktop"???

Just as it was with the Lubuntu engineered LXDE desktop, totally different. 
Only more. 
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Re: [lubuntu-users] 18.04 LTS support length? (uninvol...@outlook.com)

[Aere Greenway]

(my comments are bottom-posted, as they require)

On 5/24/20 9:14 AM, Fritz Hudnut wrote:

AG, et al:

Thank you.  So, the "question" might be how radically different is the 
debian based "lxde" from the possibly lubuntu engineered "lxqt 
desktop"??? to find a way forward.


On Sat, May 23, 2020 at 1:44 PM Aere Greenway 
mailto:a...@dvorak-keyboards.com>> wrote:


(my comments are bottom-posted)
On 5/23/20 1:56 PM, Fritz Hudnut wrote:

Always interesting to see how OPs seem to disappear on ubuntu
forums, and it winds up RPs discussing the topic . . . .

So, booted up in Lu 20.10 and checking the sessions I now have
"Lubuntu" which seems to be thenewer, richer looking, possibly
"Plasma" based GUI DE; and "LXQT Desktop" which seems to be more
of the basic GUI DE; and then ye olde Openbox . . . minimalistic
DE . . . .

So I don't know if I had "lxde" only a few weeks back, and then
moving up to "groovy" removed it, OR, that was an imaginary
"fabrication" on my part and what I saw as "lxde" was the "lxqt
desktop" option . . . that option seems similar to what was the
traditional "lxde" . . . DE . . . maybe it has just been
"renamed" as the easy way to change the DE, but under the name it
is still . . . the same??  I didn't spend too long looking at the
features offered in lxqt desktop session . . . but, just saying
that especially in linux, "change is inevitable" . . . the clock
runs forward . . . .

On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 11:18 AM Fritz Hudnut
mailto:este.el@gmail.com>> wrote:

Possibly I have lxde there from before there was lxqt and
I've just updated via changing the sources.list??  I can't
remember when I did a fresh install, but I think maybe I had
to after Siduction ripped through all of my drives and wiped
data . . . probably would have been 18.04??  And I didn't add
lxde . . . but, I couldn't swear to that . . . .  : - ))

On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 9:27 AM Aere Greenway
mailto:a...@dvorak-keyboards.com>> wrote:

On 5/21/20 8:36 AM, Fritz Hudnut wrote:


Having now used LXQt, I'm much happier with LXDE.
I'd like to stick with LXDE as long as realistically
possible, though I understand (I think) the
difficulties around that.

Can anyone clear this up, thanks


@et al:

I'm pretty sure that even in 20.10 Lu that I have now,
the option of LXQT, LXDE, or Openbox sessions are
available on log in?

Possibly Aere G could confirm that, but I believe there
was a conversation regarding something similar not too
long ago here?  Likely at least 20.04 . . . I'm a couple
days away from my "lubuntu" day . . . .

F


I'm pretty sure you have to install the lxde package,
before the LXDE option appears in the "Session" drop-box,
near the upper left corner of the log-in screen.

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Aere




The LXDE desktop I see on Lubuntu 20.04, appears identical to the
LXDE desktop I see on my Debian Buster systems.

The launcher icon, and the dark, rounded taskbar, as well as the
LXDE splash-screen are the same on Lubuntu 20.04, and on Debian
Buster.

I suspect the LXDE we get on Lubuntu 20.04, is the same as comes
from Debian.

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I choose to use LXDE because I can still do the color-customization I 
like so much, and because it is more familiar to what I'm used to.


Also, where my 32-bit machines can't be used on Lubuntu any more, and 
only Debian still supports them, on Debian, I use LXDE, so all of my 
machines have a common desktop.


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Re: [lubuntu-users] 18.04 LTS support length? (uninvol...@outlook.com)

[Fritz Hudnut]

AG, et al:

Thank you.  So, the "question" might be how radically different is the
debian based "lxde" from the possibly lubuntu engineered "lxqt desktop"???
to find a way forward.

On Sat, May 23, 2020 at 1:44 PM Aere Greenway 
wrote:

> (my comments are bottom-posted)
> On 5/23/20 1:56 PM, Fritz Hudnut wrote:
>
> Always interesting to see how OPs seem to disappear on ubuntu forums, and
> it winds up RPs discussing the topic . . . .
>
> So, booted up in Lu 20.10 and checking the sessions I now have "Lubuntu"
> which seems to be thenewer, richer looking, possibly "Plasma" based GUI DE;
> and "LXQT Desktop" which seems to be more of the basic GUI DE; and then ye
> olde Openbox . . . minimalistic DE . . . .
>
> So I don't know if I had "lxde" only a few weeks back, and then moving up
> to "groovy" removed it, OR, that was an imaginary "fabrication" on my part
> and what I saw as "lxde" was the "lxqt desktop" option . . . that option
> seems similar to what was the traditional "lxde" . . . DE . . . maybe it
> has just been "renamed" as the easy way to change the DE, but under the
> name it is still . . . the same??  I didn't spend too long looking at the
> features offered in lxqt desktop session . . . but, just saying that
> especially in linux, "change is inevitable" . . . the clock runs forward .
> . . .
>
> On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 11:18 AM Fritz Hudnut 
> wrote:
>
>> Possibly I have lxde there from before there was lxqt and I've just
>> updated via changing the sources.list??  I can't remember when I did a
>> fresh install, but I think maybe I had to after Siduction ripped through
>> all of my drives and wiped data . . . probably would have been 18.04??  And
>> I didn't add lxde . . . but, I couldn't swear to that . . . .  : - ))
>>
>> On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 9:27 AM Aere Greenway 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/21/20 8:36 AM, Fritz Hudnut wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
 Having now used LXQt, I'm much happier with LXDE. I'd like to stick
 with LXDE as long as realistically possible, though I understand (I think)
 the difficulties around that.

 Can anyone clear this up, thanks
>>>
>>>
>>> @et al:
>>>
>>> I'm pretty sure that even in 20.10 Lu that I have now, the option of
>>> LXQT, LXDE, or Openbox sessions are available on log in?
>>>
>>> Possibly Aere G could confirm that, but I believe there was a
>>> conversation regarding something similar not too long ago here?  Likely at
>>> least 20.04 . . . I'm a couple days away from my "lubuntu" day . . . .
>>>
>>> F
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm pretty sure you have to install the lxde package, before the LXDE
>>> option appears in the "Session" drop-box, near the upper left corner of the
>>> log-in screen.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Sincerely,
>>> Aere
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The LXDE desktop I see on Lubuntu 20.04, appears identical to the LXDE
> desktop I see on my Debian Buster systems.
>
> The launcher icon, and the dark, rounded taskbar, as well as the LXDE
> splash-screen are the same on Lubuntu 20.04, and on Debian Buster.
>
> I suspect the LXDE we get on Lubuntu 20.04, is the same as comes from
> Debian.
>
> --
> Sincerely,
> Aere
>
>
>
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Re: [lubuntu-users] 18.04 LTS support length? (uninvol...@outlook.com)

[Aere Greenway]

(my comments are bottom-posted)
On 5/23/20 1:56 PM, Fritz Hudnut wrote:
Always interesting to see how OPs seem to disappear on ubuntu forums, 
and it winds up RPs discussing the topic . . . .


So, booted up in Lu 20.10 and checking the sessions I now have 
"Lubuntu" which seems to be thenewer, richer looking, possibly 
"Plasma" based GUI DE; and "LXQT Desktop" which seems to be more of 
the basic GUI DE; and then ye olde Openbox . . . minimalistic DE . . . .


So I don't know if I had "lxde" only a few weeks back, and then moving 
up to "groovy" removed it, OR, that was an imaginary "fabrication" on 
my part and what I saw as "lxde" was the "lxqt desktop" option . . . 
that option seems similar to what was the traditional "lxde" . . . DE 
. . . maybe it has just been "renamed" as the easy way to change the 
DE, but under the name it is still . . . the same??  I didn't spend 
too long looking at the features offered in lxqt desktop session . . . 
but, just saying that especially in linux, "change is inevitable" . . 
. the clock runs forward . . . .


On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 11:18 AM Fritz Hudnut > wrote:


Possibly I have lxde there from before there was lxqt and I've
just updated via changing the sources.list??  I can't remember
when I did a fresh install, but I think maybe I had to after
Siduction ripped through all of my drives and wiped data . . .
probably would have been 18.04??  And I didn't add lxde . . . but,
I couldn't swear to that . . . .  : - ))

On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 9:27 AM Aere Greenway
mailto:a...@dvorak-keyboards.com>> wrote:

On 5/21/20 8:36 AM, Fritz Hudnut wrote:


Having now used LXQt, I'm much happier with LXDE. I'd
like to stick with LXDE as long as realistically
possible, though I understand (I think) the difficulties
around that.

Can anyone clear this up, thanks


@et al:

I'm pretty sure that even in 20.10 Lu that I have now, the
option of LXQT, LXDE, or Openbox sessions are available on
log in?

Possibly Aere G could confirm that, but I believe there was a
conversation regarding something similar not too long ago
here?  Likely at least 20.04 . . . I'm a couple days away
from my "lubuntu" day . . . .

F


I'm pretty sure you have to install the lxde package, before
the LXDE option appears in the "Session" drop-box, near the
upper left corner of the log-in screen.

-- 
Sincerely,

Aere



The LXDE desktop I see on Lubuntu 20.04, appears identical to the LXDE 
desktop I see on my Debian Buster systems.


The launcher icon, and the dark, rounded taskbar, as well as the LXDE 
splash-screen are the same on Lubuntu 20.04, and on Debian Buster.


I suspect the LXDE we get on Lubuntu 20.04, is the same as comes from 
Debian.


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Re: [lubuntu-users] 18.04 LTS support length? (uninvol...@outlook.com)

[Fritz Hudnut]

Always interesting to see how OPs seem to disappear on ubuntu forums, and
it winds up RPs discussing the topic . . . .

So, booted up in Lu 20.10 and checking the sessions I now have "Lubuntu"
which seems to be thenewer, richer looking, possibly "Plasma" based GUI DE;
and "LXQT Desktop" which seems to be more of the basic GUI DE; and then ye
olde Openbox . . . minimalistic DE . . . .

So I don't know if I had "lxde" only a few weeks back, and then moving up
to "groovy" removed it, OR, that was an imaginary "fabrication" on my part
and what I saw as "lxde" was the "lxqt desktop" option . . . that option
seems similar to what was the traditional "lxde" . . . DE . . . maybe it
has just been "renamed" as the easy way to change the DE, but under the
name it is still . . . the same??  I didn't spend too long looking at the
features offered in lxqt desktop session . . . but, just saying that
especially in linux, "change is inevitable" . . . the clock runs forward .
. . .

On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 11:18 AM Fritz Hudnut  wrote:

> Possibly I have lxde there from before there was lxqt and I've just
> updated via changing the sources.list??  I can't remember when I did a
> fresh install, but I think maybe I had to after Siduction ripped through
> all of my drives and wiped data . . . probably would have been 18.04??  And
> I didn't add lxde . . . but, I couldn't swear to that . . . .  : - ))
>
> On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 9:27 AM Aere Greenway 
> wrote:
>
>> On 5/21/20 8:36 AM, Fritz Hudnut wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> Having now used LXQt, I'm much happier with LXDE. I'd like to stick with
>>> LXDE as long as realistically possible, though I understand (I think) the
>>> difficulties around that.
>>>
>>> Can anyone clear this up, thanks
>>
>>
>> @et al:
>>
>> I'm pretty sure that even in 20.10 Lu that I have now, the option of
>> LXQT, LXDE, or Openbox sessions are available on log in?
>>
>> Possibly Aere G could confirm that, but I believe there was a
>> conversation regarding something similar not too long ago here?  Likely at
>> least 20.04 . . . I'm a couple days away from my "lubuntu" day . . . .
>>
>> F
>>
>>
>> I'm pretty sure you have to install the lxde package, before the LXDE
>> option appears in the "Session" drop-box, near the upper left corner of the
>> log-in screen.
>>
>> --
>> Sincerely,
>> Aere
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [lubuntu-users] 18.04 LTS support length? (uninvol...@outlook.com)

[Fritz Hudnut]

Possibly I have lxde there from before there was lxqt and I've just updated
via changing the sources.list??  I can't remember when I did a fresh
install, but I think maybe I had to after Siduction ripped through all of
my drives and wiped data . . . probably would have been 18.04??  And I
didn't add lxde . . . but, I couldn't swear to that . . . .  : - ))

On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 9:27 AM Aere Greenway 
wrote:

> On 5/21/20 8:36 AM, Fritz Hudnut wrote:
>
>
>
>
>> Having now used LXQt, I'm much happier with LXDE. I'd like to stick with
>> LXDE as long as realistically possible, though I understand (I think) the
>> difficulties around that.
>>
>> Can anyone clear this up, thanks
>
>
> @et al:
>
> I'm pretty sure that even in 20.10 Lu that I have now, the option of LXQT,
> LXDE, or Openbox sessions are available on log in?
>
> Possibly Aere G could confirm that, but I believe there was a conversation
> regarding something similar not too long ago here?  Likely at least 20.04 .
> . . I'm a couple days away from my "lubuntu" day . . . .
>
> F
>
>
> I'm pretty sure you have to install the lxde package, before the LXDE
> option appears in the "Session" drop-box, near the upper left corner of the
> log-in screen.
>
> --
> Sincerely,
> Aere
>
>
>
>
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Re: [lubuntu-users] 18.04 LTS support length? (uninvol...@outlook.com)

[Aere Greenway]

On 5/21/20 8:36 AM, Fritz Hudnut wrote:


Having now used LXQt, I'm much happier with LXDE. I'd like to
stick with LXDE as long as realistically possible, though I
understand (I think) the difficulties around that.

Can anyone clear this up, thanks


@et al:

I'm pretty sure that even in 20.10 Lu that I have now, the option of 
LXQT, LXDE, or Openbox sessions are available on log in?


Possibly Aere G could confirm that, but I believe there was a 
conversation regarding something similar not too long ago here?  
Likely at least 20.04 . . . I'm a couple days away from my "lubuntu" 
day . . . .


F

I'm pretty sure you have to install the lxde package, before the LXDE 
option appears in the "Session" drop-box, near the upper left corner of 
the log-in screen.


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[lubuntu-users] 18.04 LTS support length? (uninvol...@outlook.com)

[Fritz Hudnut]

> Having now used LXQt, I'm much happier with LXDE. I'd like to stick with
> LXDE as long as realistically possible, though I understand (I think) the
> difficulties around that.
>
> Can anyone clear this up, thanks


@et al:

I'm pretty sure that even in 20.10 Lu that I have now, the option of LXQT,
LXDE, or Openbox sessions are available on log in?

Possibly Aere G could confirm that, but I believe there was a conversation
regarding something similar not too long ago here?  Likely at least 20.04 .
. . I'm a couple days away from my "lubuntu" day . . . .

F
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