lug-bg: Zapis ot 09.June

2001-06-12 Thread Spas Pavlov

Zdrawejte.

Preprashtam pismoto na Slavi Manalow. To ne stigna do grupata, zastoto beshe 
izprateno ot neregistriran adres:
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Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 21:01:46 -0700
From: Nikola Antonov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Slavi Manalov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Zapis ot 09.June

Predavaneto ot vchera e na web -
www.pcradio.netbg.com/archive_2001-06-09.html
___

Az gi slushah oste wchera. Ako imate problemi sys gornoto URL (poneve pak ima 
problem sys CSS) movete da gi widite na adres:
http://www.pcradio.netbg.com/broadcast/2001-06-09/
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Re: lug-bg: SQL+PHP+Apache

2001-06-12 Thread Евгений Перчемлиев

Borislav Nedialkov wrote:

>A be shte me izvinite ama gledam gledam i vse mi se struva che niakoi ne e
>dogledal rabotata:
>-> v primera e taka :
>...
>...
>...
>
>>? // Greshka...- niama vlizane v HTML
>>
>
>a spored men trebe da e ...
>...
>...
>...
>?> - govorim za zatvariashtia
>tag.
>
>
>
>
>
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>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 6:31 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: lug-bg: SQL+PHP+Apache
>
>
>Kaloian Doganov wrote:
>
>>Õì, ìîæå áè ñòàâà äóìà çà ïå÷àòíà ãðåøêà, íî ñïîðåä òâîÿ ïðèìåð òè ïîäàâàø
>>ïðîìåíëèâà "temp", à ñå îïèòâàø èçâåäåø "test".
>>
>Äà, ïå÷àòíà ãðåøêà å. Êîðåêòíîòî å:
>
>http://myserver/temp.php?test=Evgeny
>
>
>>
>>On Fri, Jun 08, 2001 at 06:01:17PM +0300, Åâãåíèé Ïåð÷åìëèåâ wrote:
>>
>>>Åòî è ïðèìåð:
>>>Äà ðå÷åì ÷å ñêðèïòà ñå êàçâà temp.php
>>>åòî ãî è source:
>echo $test;//ïðîìåíëèâà
>>>
>>>
>>>Â IE=>URL: http://myserver/test.php?temp=Evgeny
>>>Òðÿáâà äà ìè âúðíå:
>>>Evgeny
>>>
>>> À íå ìè âðúùà íèùî :(
>>>Áÿëî ïîëå:)
>>>
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Èìà ÿ è çàòâàðÿùàòà.
Íå å ïðîáëåìà â ñèíòàêñèñà íà ñêðèïòà. Àêî áåøå òàêà ùåøå äà å 
åëåìåíòàðíî :).
Ïðîáëåìà å, ÷å PHP+IIS èëè PHP+Apache âúðõó ïëàòôîðìà Windows , ïî 
íÿêÿêâà ïðè÷èíà ðàáîòÿò ñàìî â åäíàòà ïîñîêà —(êúì áðàóçúðà) ò.å. 
äàííèòå îò áàçàòà ïðåç PHP+web server ñå âèçóàëèçèðàò â áðàóçúðà, íî 
äàííèòå âúâåäåíè âúâ http ôîðìà íå ñå ïðåäàâàò îò áðàóçúðà íà web 
servera (ñòîéíîñòèòå ñå íóëèðàò).

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lug-bg: Sun Solaris

2001-06-12 Thread Georgi Kiselov



Vijte tova:

http://www.sun.com/solaris/binaries/get.html

G. Kiselov

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RE: lug-bg: object storage - again

2001-06-12 Thread Borislav Nedialkov

Poneje temata mi e interesna /*  Ama mnogo */ - reshih i az da se
namesia
Imam ogromna molba - vremeto mi e mnogo ogranicheno, no vsiako svobodno
takova go izpolzvam da poprocheta nesho i estestveno da razcykam
proslovutata .NET.
Estestveno gospodata ot M$ sa raboteli kakto kaza rykovoditelia na ekipa -
okolo 2.5 - 3 godini.No za men istinata e che veche ne govorim za nishto
drugo osvem COM/DCOM/COM+.
V tazi vrazka ako niakoi ot vas e dylbal po vaprosa shte buda mnogo
blagodaren za dopylnitelno info i estestveno mojete da mi pishete na lichnia
e-mail -> [EMAIL PROTECTED]!!!

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On Tue, 12 Jun 2001, Georgi Kolev wrote:

>   Çíà÷è èäåÿòà ìè å çà õðàíèëèùå, êîåòî åôåêòèâíî äà ïîäìåíè ôàéëîâàòà
> ñèñòåìà (âñúùíîñò ìîæå äà ðàáîòè ñúâìåñòíî ñ íåÿ, ïðè ïîëîæåíèå ÷å
îñíîâíèÿò
> ôóíäàìåíò å ïðîöåñà, à íå ôàéëà) - âå÷å ãîâîðèì çà ñúõðàíÿâàíå íå íà
> ôàéëîâå, à íà êëàñîâå è îáåêòè (íåçàâèñèìè îò åçèêà), êîåòî ñàìî ïî ñåáå
ñè
> îçíà÷àâà ãîëÿìà ãðàíóëàöèÿ. Êàòî ñëîæèì è ïîääðúæêà íà âåðñèè (äîêàòî èìà
> ðåôåðåíöèè êúì îáåêòà èëè êëàñà, êîéòî ñúùî å îáåêò), òî òðÿáâà äà èìà
ìíîãî
> áúðç è åôåêòèâåí mapping ìåæäó çàðåäåíèòå ñòðóêòóðè â ïàìåòòà è
õðàíèëèùåòî.
Ïîãëåäíè ReiserFS ïðè www.namesys.com. Èäåÿòà çàä ReiserFS ìíîãî ìè
ïðèëè÷à íà òîâà, êîåòî îïèñâàø òè. Ïðåäè îêîëî ñåäìèöà èëè äâå ñúùî
ïðî÷åòîõ ñòàòèÿ ïî ïîäîáíà òåìà íà www.byte.com Íàäÿâàì ñå äà ïîìîãíå.

Ïèøåø çà ñúõðàíåíèå íà êëàñîâå è îáåêòè íåçàâèñèìè îò åçèêà. Ïî êàêúâ
íà÷èí âñå ïàê áèõà ìîãëè äà ñå îïèøàò òåçè îáåêòè, è êàê ìîãàò äà áúäàò
èçïîëçâàíè, ò.å. ïî êàêúâ íà÷èí/èíòåðôåéñ? ×ðåç ñàìîòî
"îáåêòíî" õðàíèëèùå, èëè àïëèêàöèèòå ñúùî òðÿáâà äà áúäàò "aware"?

Ñåòèõ ñå è çà îùå íåùî, ïðåäè íÿêîëêî ìåñåöà Oracle ïóñíàõà iFS, èëè
Internet File System - òîâà ïðåäñòàâëÿâà ðåëàöèîííà áàçà, êîÿòî çà
îïåðàöèîííàòà ñèñòåìà èçãëåæäà êàòî ôàéëîâà ñèñòåìà. Âúâ FAQ îáà÷å ïèøåøå,
÷å âðåìåòî çà äîñòúï äî iFS å íÿêîëêî ïúòè ïî-áàâíî îòêîëêîòî îòâàðÿíåòî
íà ôàéë âúâ ôàéëîâàòà ñèñòåìà. Òàêà ÷å áúðçèíàòà íà õðàíèëèùåòî ñúùî å îò
çíà÷åíèå. È ìîæå áè òî÷íî òóê êàòî ÷å ëè íàé-ìíîãî ïîòåíöèàë èìà ïðè 
Reiser's.

>   Íàòðóïàõà ñå ìíîãî ïðîáëåìè è çàïî÷íàõà äà ìè áÿãàò, çà òîâà òúðñÿ
óäà÷íè
> ðåøåíèÿ.
> Íå ìè å öåëòà äà ïîâòàðÿì  DOT.NET , à íåùî êîåòî äàäå íîâ è ïî-åôåêòèâåí
> òëàñúê â ìîäåëíîòî ïðîåêòèðàíå íà ñîôòóåð. 
Êàêâî çíà÷è ìîäåëíî ïðîåêòèðàíå íà ñîôòóåð? Ñîôòóåðíî ìîäåëèðàíå ëè? Íåùî
êàòî CMOS/UML?

> Íå ìè ñå ïèøàò ïðàçíè ïðèêàçêè.
> Àêî íÿêîé èìà êîíêðåòíè èäåè ñúì ãîòîâ äà ãè îáñúäèì.
> Áëàãîäàðåí ñúì çà âñÿêàêâè èäåè ïî âúïðîñà.
Íåçíàì äàëè íà òàçè ëèñòà ùå ñìå îò îñîáåíà ïîëçà. Òåìàòà å ëåêî íàñòðàíè
;-)
 
> P.S. Íàìåðèõ íåùî êîåòî ìè çâó÷è èíòåðåñíî (ðàçãëåæäàì ñîðñîâåòå) íî íå å
> òî÷íî òîâà êîåòî ìè òðÿáâà.
> Æîðî


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RE: lug-bg: SQL+PHP+Apache

2001-06-12 Thread Borislav Nedialkov

A be shte me izvinite ama gledam gledam i vse mi se struva che niakoi ne e
dogledal rabotata:
-> v primera e taka :
? // Greshka...- niama vlizane v HTML

a spored men trebe da e ...
 - govorim za zatvariashtia
tag.







-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 6:31 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: lug-bg: SQL+PHP+Apache


Kaloian Doganov wrote:

>Õì, ìîæå áè ñòàâà äóìà çà ïå÷àòíà ãðåøêà, íî ñïîðåä òâîÿ ïðèìåð òè ïîäàâàø
>ïðîìåíëèâà "temp", à ñå îïèòâàø èçâåäåø "test".
>
Äà, ïå÷àòíà ãðåøêà å. Êîðåêòíîòî å:

http://myserver/temp.php?test=Evgeny


>
>
>On Fri, Jun 08, 2001 at 06:01:17PM +0300, Åâãåíèé Ïåð÷åìëèåâ wrote:
>
>>Åòî è ïðèìåð:
>>Äà ðå÷åì ÷å ñêðèïòà ñå êàçâà temp.php
>>åòî ãî è source:
>>>echo $test;//ïðîìåíëèâà
>> >?
>>Â IE=>URL: http://myserver/temp.php?temp=Evgeny
>>Òðÿáâà äà ìè âúðíå:
>>Evgeny
>>
>> À íå ìè âðúùà íèùî :(
>>Áÿëî ïîëå:)
>>
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Re: lug-bg: MRTG?

2001-06-12 Thread gggg ggg

aha ! sega razbrah.
parvo vij ot helpa razlikata mejdu 'gauge' i
'absolute' ednoto natrupva , a drugoto ti vrashta
razlika ot predhodnata stoinost. Vzemesh tova koeto ti
dava stoinosti i izpolzvash 'unknaszero' opciata
,koiato ti slaga 0 ako niamash stoinost i polu4avash
imenno 10+5+0,samo vnimavai koe ot dvete shte polzvash
dali 'gauge' ili 'absolute' shtoto s ednoto shte
grumne(ne pomnia s koe ).
Ako ne polu4ish rezultat , moje da pristapish kam
variant koito spored men e po-dobar: pishesh si script
,koito ti podava na MRTG-to tova koeto iskash da
display-nesh i MRTG-to samo ti go risuva.dostatu4ni sa
mu dve 4isla za da ti narisuva grafikata, a
sastoianieto na liniata si mojesh da polu4ish po
bezbroi na4ini , kakto i ima bezbroi software po
vaprosa.

georgi

--- Hristo Nazarov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Zdrawejte,
> MRTG mi e naj-poslednoto (2.9.17)
> Ideiata e che AVERAGE pokazwa srednoto natowarvane
> na liniata samo w
> sluchaite, Kogato ima transfer:
> Primer (Predi towa liniata ne e bila natowarena
> waobshte):
> 10:00 - 10K
> 10:05 - 5K
> 10:10 - 0K
> Togawa AVERAGE=(10+5)/2=12.5 - taka se smiata w
> momenta
> A az iskam da se smiata taka: (10+5+0)/3=5
> Maj po iasno ne moga da obiasnia za kakwo stawa
> duma...
> Pozdrawi
> Hristo


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lug-bg: End: PCMCIA ethernet carta sys linux?

2001-06-12 Thread Boyan

Problema sys kartata se razreshi pochti ot samo sebe si. Sprajh samo v
biosa infrareda. Posle napravih povtorno integrirane na kartata i
konfiguratija na lana sys yast1 (osnoven konfigurator pri suse
distributsijata) no tozi pyt sys jadroto 2.2.18, a ne kakto opitvah predi
s 2.4.0. Dade na kartata novo IRQ 4 (predi davashe 3). I mredjata trygna
bez da mi stane jasno dali tova se dyldjeshe na drugija kernel ili na
infrareda.

Blagodarja za byrzite otzivi i idei za razreshavane na vyprosa!
Boyan.

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Re: lug-bg: object storage - again

2001-06-12 Thread Vladimir Dzhuvinov

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On Tue, 12 Jun 2001, Georgi Kolev wrote:

>   Çíà÷è èäåÿòà ìè å çà õðàíèëèùå, êîåòî åôåêòèâíî äà ïîäìåíè ôàéëîâàòà
> ñèñòåìà (âñúùíîñò ìîæå äà ðàáîòè ñúâìåñòíî ñ íåÿ, ïðè ïîëîæåíèå ÷å îñíîâíèÿò
> ôóíäàìåíò å ïðîöåñà, à íå ôàéëà) - âå÷å ãîâîðèì çà ñúõðàíÿâàíå íå íà
> ôàéëîâå, à íà êëàñîâå è îáåêòè (íåçàâèñèìè îò åçèêà), êîåòî ñàìî ïî ñåáå ñè
> îçíà÷àâà ãîëÿìà ãðàíóëàöèÿ. Êàòî ñëîæèì è ïîääðúæêà íà âåðñèè (äîêàòî èìà
> ðåôåðåíöèè êúì îáåêòà èëè êëàñà, êîéòî ñúùî å îáåêò), òî òðÿáâà äà èìà ìíîãî
> áúðç è åôåêòèâåí mapping ìåæäó çàðåäåíèòå ñòðóêòóðè â ïàìåòòà è õðàíèëèùåòî.
Ïîãëåäíè ReiserFS ïðè www.namesys.com. Èäåÿòà çàä ReiserFS ìíîãî ìè
ïðèëè÷à íà òîâà, êîåòî îïèñâàø òè. Ïðåäè îêîëî ñåäìèöà èëè äâå ñúùî
ïðî÷åòîõ ñòàòèÿ ïî ïîäîáíà òåìà íà www.byte.com Íàäÿâàì ñå äà ïîìîãíå.

Ïèøåø çà ñúõðàíåíèå íà êëàñîâå è îáåêòè íåçàâèñèìè îò åçèêà. Ïî êàêúâ
íà÷èí âñå ïàê áèõà ìîãëè äà ñå îïèøàò òåçè îáåêòè, è êàê ìîãàò äà áúäàò
èçïîëçâàíè, ò.å. ïî êàêúâ íà÷èí/èíòåðôåéñ? ×ðåç ñàìîòî
"îáåêòíî" õðàíèëèùå, èëè àïëèêàöèèòå ñúùî òðÿáâà äà áúäàò "aware"?

Ñåòèõ ñå è çà îùå íåùî, ïðåäè íÿêîëêî ìåñåöà Oracle ïóñíàõà iFS, èëè
Internet File System - òîâà ïðåäñòàâëÿâà ðåëàöèîííà áàçà, êîÿòî çà
îïåðàöèîííàòà ñèñòåìà èçãëåæäà êàòî ôàéëîâà ñèñòåìà. Âúâ FAQ îáà÷å ïèøåøå,
÷å âðåìåòî çà äîñòúï äî iFS å íÿêîëêî ïúòè ïî-áàâíî îòêîëêîòî îòâàðÿíåòî
íà ôàéë âúâ ôàéëîâàòà ñèñòåìà. Òàêà ÷å áúðçèíàòà íà õðàíèëèùåòî ñúùî å îò
çíà÷åíèå. È ìîæå áè òî÷íî òóê êàòî ÷å ëè íàé-ìíîãî ïîòåíöèàë èìà ïðè 
Reiser's.

>   Íàòðóïàõà ñå ìíîãî ïðîáëåìè è çàïî÷íàõà äà ìè áÿãàò, çà òîâà òúðñÿ óäà÷íè
> ðåøåíèÿ.
> Íå ìè å öåëòà äà ïîâòàðÿì  DOT.NET , à íåùî êîåòî äàäå íîâ è ïî-åôåêòèâåí
> òëàñúê â ìîäåëíîòî ïðîåêòèðàíå íà ñîôòóåð. 
Êàêâî çíà÷è ìîäåëíî ïðîåêòèðàíå íà ñîôòóåð? Ñîôòóåðíî ìîäåëèðàíå ëè? Íåùî
êàòî CMOS/UML?

> Íå ìè ñå ïèøàò ïðàçíè ïðèêàçêè.
> Àêî íÿêîé èìà êîíêðåòíè èäåè ñúì ãîòîâ äà ãè îáñúäèì.
> Áëàãîäàðåí ñúì çà âñÿêàêâè èäåè ïî âúïðîñà.
Íåçíàì äàëè íà òàçè ëèñòà ùå ñìå îò îñîáåíà ïîëçà. Òåìàòà å ëåêî íàñòðàíè
;-)
 
> P.S. Íàìåðèõ íåùî êîåòî ìè çâó÷è èíòåðåñíî (ðàçãëåæäàì ñîðñîâåòå) íî íå å
> òî÷íî òîâà êîåòî ìè òðÿáâà.
> Æîðî


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Re: lug-bg: object storage - again

2001-06-12 Thread Georgi Kolev

Çà íåùàñòèå (à ìîæå áè çà ùàñòèå) ïî÷òè òðè ãîäèíè ðàáîòèõ ñ ðàçâîéíèòå
ïðîäóêòè íà MS (Visual Studio 5.0/6.0), êàêòî è òðè-÷åòèðè ìåñåöà ñ
VisualStudio.NET (7.0 beta). Òà òàì â äîêóìåíòàöèÿòà èì (MSDN) èìà äîñòà
èíòåðåñíè íåùà, àêî ìîãà äà êàæà äîáðà äóìà çà MS òîâà ñà äîáðå îôîðìåíè
äîêóìåíòàöèè. Îñâåí òîâà ñå ïîáàçèêàõ ñ C# è dll - èòå îòäîëó. Â èíòåðåñ íà
èñòèíàòà ÷îâåê ìîæå äà äîáèå äîñòà äîáðà ïðåäñòàâà çà ïðèíöèïèòå íà
ôóíêöèîíèðàíå íà àðõèòåêòóðàòà. Âñúùíîñò öåííîòî å èíòåãðàöèÿòà íà íÿêîëêî
åçèêà ïîñðåäñòâîì èíòåðôåéñíè ñòðóêòóðè êîèòî ïîçâîëÿâàò äà ñå íàñëåäÿâàò
êëàñîâå îò C++ êúì C# è îáðàòíî, âå÷å èìà èìïëåìåíòàöèÿ çà SmallTalk (îò
îêîëî ïîëîâèí ãîäèíà ðàáîòÿ ñ VisualAge for SmallTalk è ñå óâåðèõ ìîùíîñòòà
íà åçèêà, îñâåí òîâà âå÷å èìà âåðñèÿ è çà Linux), è íåùî ìíîãî èíòåðåñíî -
èìïëåìåíòàöèÿ íà Haskell - ìîæå áè íàé-äîáðå ðàçâèâàùèÿ ñå ôóíêöèîíàëåí åçèê
(âñå îùå îñíîâíî ïîä Linux, íî äîêîãà...).

  Çíà÷è èäåÿòà ìè å çà õðàíèëèùå, êîåòî åôåêòèâíî äà ïîäìåíè ôàéëîâàòà
ñèñòåìà (âñúùíîñò ìîæå äà ðàáîòè ñúâìåñòíî ñ íåÿ, ïðè ïîëîæåíèå ÷å îñíîâíèÿò
ôóíäàìåíò å ïðîöåñà, à íå ôàéëà) - âå÷å ãîâîðèì çà ñúõðàíÿâàíå íå íà
ôàéëîâå, à íà êëàñîâå è îáåêòè (íåçàâèñèìè îò åçèêà), êîåòî ñàìî ïî ñåáå ñè
îçíà÷àâà ãîëÿìà ãðàíóëàöèÿ. Êàòî ñëîæèì è ïîääðúæêà íà âåðñèè (äîêàòî èìà
ðåôåðåíöèè êúì îáåêòà èëè êëàñà, êîéòî ñúùî å îáåêò), òî òðÿáâà äà èìà ìíîãî
áúðç è åôåêòèâåí mapping ìåæäó çàðåäåíèòå ñòðóêòóðè â ïàìåòòà è õðàíèëèùåòî.

  Íàòðóïàõà ñå ìíîãî ïðîáëåìè è çàïî÷íàõà äà ìè áÿãàò, çà òîâà òúðñÿ óäà÷íè
ðåøåíèÿ.
Íå ìè å öåëòà äà ïîâòàðÿì  DOT.NET , à íåùî êîåòî äàäå íîâ è ïî-åôåêòèâåí
òëàñúê â ìîäåëíîòî ïðîåêòèðàíå íà ñîôòóåð. Íå ìè ñå ïèøàò ïðàçíè ïðèêàçêè.
Àêî íÿêîé èìà êîíêðåòíè èäåè ñúì ãîòîâ äà ãè îáñúäèì.
Áëàãîäàðåí ñúì çà âñÿêàêâè èäåè ïî âúïðîñà.

P.S. Íàìåðèõ íåùî êîåòî ìè çâó÷è èíòåðåñíî (ðàçãëåæäàì ñîðñîâåòå) íî íå å
òî÷íî òîâà êîåòî ìè òðÿáâà.
Æîðî




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> Çäðàâåé,
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> On Tue, 12 Jun 2001, Georgi Kolev wrote:
>
> > ßâíî ïðåäíèÿ mail ñúì ãî èçïðàòèë äîñòà àäæàìèéñêàòà. Íàäÿâàì ñå òîâà äà
ñå
> > ÷åòå.(
> Àç ëè÷íî ïðåäíîòî ïèñìî ãî ïðî÷åòîõ, íå çíàì çà äðóãèòå ;-)
>
> > Íÿêîé äà çíàå ëèíêîâå è èíôîðìàöèÿ çà îòâîðåíè ïðîåêòè íà îáåêòíè
õðàíèëèùà
> > (îáåêòíè áàçè äàííè), ñîðñîâå, äîêóìåíòàöèÿ.
> Åäèíñòâåíîòî íåùî, çà êîåòî ñå ñåùàì å PostgreSQL, íî òîâà å
> îáåêòíî-ðåëàöèîííà áàçà äàííè. Ñòðóâà ìè ñå, ÷å ìîæå äà ñå ïîëçâà è RDBMS
> ñ íÿêàêúâ àáñòðàêòåí èíòåðôåéñ. Ïðèìåðíî ñúõðàíÿâàø îáåêòèòå êàòî ãè
> ñåðèàëèçèðàø (ñòàâà ñ Java è Perl, ìîæå è ñ C++ äà ñòàâà) ñëåä òîâà ãè
> çàïèñâàø â áàçàòà. Íî òîâà íå å "÷èñòî" îáåêòíî îðèåíòèðàíî ðåøåíèå. Àëà
> ìîæå è îòòàì äà ñå ïî÷íå, çàùîòî RDBMS ñà òâúðäî óòâúðäåíè, äîêàòî OO
> áàçèòå íå ñà (â ñúùàòà ñòåïåí).
>
> Äà ðàçáèðàì ëè, ÷å òúðñèø object persistance ñàìî, èëè íåùî äîïúëíèòåëíî?
> Ìîæåø äà ïèøåø äî ëèñòàòà íà JUG-BG, òàì ñòðóâà ìè ñå ùå ñå íàìåðÿò
> çàïîçíàòè ñ òåìàòà.
>
> > Íåùî îò ñîðòà íà Objectivity è
> > POET. Âñúùíîñò èìàì íÿêîè äîñòà ñåðèîçíè èäåè çà ïîäîáíà àðõèòåêòóðà
êîÿòî
> > áè âíåñëà - äà íå ñå èçõâúðëÿì, íî ìèñëÿ ðåâîëþöèîííà (åâîëþöèîííà)
> > êîíöåïöèÿ â Ëèíóêñ àðõèòåêòóðàòà.
> Íå ðàçáðàõ êàêâà òî÷íî òè å èäåÿòà, íî Ëèíóêñ å ïî-ñêîðî ñàìî ïëàòôîðìà.
> Èëè ñìÿòàø, ÷å òàçè ñèñòåìà ìîæå äà áúäå âãðàäåíà â Ëèíóêñ? Òîãàâà
> îáà÷å Ëèíóêñ ùå ïðåñòàíå äà áúäå POSIX OS, òîâà å îïðåäåëåíî ;-)
> Åäíà îáåêòíî îðèåíòèðàíà áàçà íå å íóæíî äà å âúðçàíà çà îïðåäåëåíà ÎÑ.
>
> > Íå çíàì äàëè íÿêîé å çàïîçíàò ñ ò.íàð.
> > DOT.NET àðõèòåêòóðà íà  Ìicrosoft, (èìàì ïðåäâèä íå òîâà êîåòî ñå ïèøå è
> > ðåêëàìèðà ïî ñïèñàíèÿòà, à òîâà êîåòî ñòàâà îòäîëó, ÿäðîòî)
> Ïðåäè äâà äåíà âèäÿõ åäíà ñòàòèÿ ïî âúïðîñà â ñïèñàíèå Wired, ñòð. 76.
> Çàãëàâèåòî ìè ñå ñòîðè äîñòà èíòåðåñíî: The MS Federation: Join or be
> Assimilated ;-) Ïúê èìåòî íà áàçàòà ñúâñåì íåïîäõîäÿùî ñïîðåä ìåí -
> HailStorm ;-)
>
> > íî ìèñëÿ ÷å ìîæå
> > äà ñå ïðåäëîæè íåùî äîñòà äîñòà ïî-ãúâêàâî, ïî-ïðîñòî, è äà íå âëà÷è
> > ïðîáëåìè îò ïðåäè 10 ãîäèíè.
> Ñèãóðíî ìîæå, âèíàãè ìîæå è ïî-ëåñíî, è ïî-ãúâêàâî, íî...
>
> > Ïðîñòî òðÿáâà äà ñå îáåäèíÿò ïîäõîäÿùî âå÷å
> > ðàçðàáîòåíè ñîôòóåðíè ïðîåêòè, îòòàì íàòàòúê âñè÷êî ñå ðàçãðúùà.
> "Ïðîñòî"? ;-) Èëè "ïîäõîäÿùî" ;-)
> Ñàìàòà èíòåãðàöèÿ íÿìà äà å òîëêîâà ëåñíà. Äîðè è èíäèâèäóàëíèòå
> êîìïîíåíòè äà ìîãàò äà îñèãóðÿò îòäåëíèòå ôóíêöèè, òÿõíîòî ñúáèðàíå â åäíî
> ìîæå äà áúäî èçêëþ÷èòåëíî òðóäíî àêî èíòåðôåéñèòå íå ïàñâàò. Ñ óâåëè÷àâàíå
> áðîÿ íà êîìïîíåíòèòå ïîñëå íàðàñòâàò è èíòåðôåéñèòå.
>
> > Èäåÿòà å
> > äà íå ñå îòêðèâà òîïëàòà âîäà, â êðàéíà ñìåòêà âúðõó âñåêè  ôðàãìåíò îò
åäèí
> > òàêúâ áúäåù ïðîåêò âå÷å å ðàáîòåíî (îáåêòíîòî õðàíèëèùå ìè  å ëèïñâàùî
çâåíî
> > â àðõèòåêòóðàòà).
> Ïîâòîðíîòî èçïîëçâàíå íà íàëè÷íè êîìïîíå

lug-bg: netcraft ...

2001-06-12 Thread George Danchev

The site ftp.kando.hu is running Microsoft-IIS/5.0 on FreeBSD. 
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Re: lug-bg: Zakon za computarnite prestaplenia

2001-06-12 Thread Svetoslav Nikolov

Zakona e vajen - ne se maitapete s nego.
Nadiavam se da go 
poprenapishat che v tozi mu vid 
ne stava pochti za nishto. 

Pronikvaneto v chujda kompiutarna 
sistema ima 2 aspekta:
1) krajba na informacia
2) Priaka vreda ot povrejdaneto i - naprimer
formatirane na hard-diska (naprimer vlizash
 kato SU i pishesh FDISK)

Vtoriat sluchai e iasen - vredata e nalice
i satvetnia chovek triabva da bude osaden.
Ako e haknal server zaradi koito ne 
moje da rabotiat 10 choveka za 5 
dni po 10 leva na den zaplata  e lesno 
da se izchisli vredata. Ako sa iztriti 
danni rezultat ot niakolko meseca trud-
sashto. 

Po interesen e vtoria moment - s 
krajbata na informacia.

Roveneto po hard-diska na 
chujd kompiutar e gore-dolu kato roveneto
iz chujdi  dokumenti - naprimer 
bankova knijka. Ne vinagi e sas
zla umisal - naprimer na niakoi 
mu e interesno kakvi pari si skatal.
No moje pak da mu se iska 
da ti gi iztegli - znae li chovek.
A s elektronnite razplashtania
i on-line sledene na 
spestiavaniata 
(vij http://www.danskebank.dk 
--> NetBank) krajbata na parola 
e dosta fatalna.
Trudno e obache da se dokaje
kakvi sa namereniata pri hakvane 
na sistema. Taka che triabva
da se  predodvratiat vsiakakvi opiti.

Ta takiva raboti..

Tozi tekst e oshte v dosta surov vid.
I triabva da e nasochen ne tolkova kam
deca koito se opitat da otgatnat 
parolata na sys admina za da se izbazikat 
s nego. 
No zakona kato takav e neobhodim i triabva
da bude "enforced".



On Tuesday 12 June 2001 17:05, you wrote:
> On Tuesday 12 June 2001 17:27, you wrote:
> > Koito, bez da ima pravo, pronikne v chujda kompjutyrna sistema...
> > Da razbiram li che default seting = nqmam pravo da se rovq v neta?
> > Zakon, ta drynka.
>
> Mnogo zavisi kak se rovish , t.e. kakvi prava na dostup polzwash kogato
> vzaimodeistwash s 4ujdata sistema - tezi koito sa oficialno predostaveni ot
> sobstvenicite na sistemata ili tezi koito sam si uspql da si "predostavish"
> po nqkakuv na4in :)
> Po-to4no ne e dadeno opredelenie za  zakonno i  nezakonno pronikwane v
> 4ujda komp. sistema  .
>
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Re: lug-bg: two samba one computer

2001-06-12 Thread Ivaylo Toshev

smbd: invalid option -- -
Usage: smbd [-DaoPh?V] [-d debuglevel] [-l log basename] [-p port]
   [-O socket options] [-s services file] -> *Ei tova e !*
-DBecome a daemon
-aAppend to log file (default)
-oOverwrite log file, don't append
-PPassive only
-hPrint usage
-?Print usage
-VPrint version
-d debuglevel Set the debuglevel
-l log basename.  Basename for log/debug files
-p port   Listen on the specified port
-O socket options Socket options
-s services file. Filename of services file
Âòîðíèê 12 06, 2001 18:13 , Hilmi Hilmiev íàïèñàõòå:
> Zdraweyte
>
> Imate li idei dali mozhe na edin komputer da rabotiat dwa samba servera,
> t.e. da se izpolzwat dwa razlichni smb.conf ednowremenno.
>
> Blagodaria wi predwaritelno.

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Re: lug-bg: object storage - again

2001-06-12 Thread Vladimir Dzhuvinov

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Çäðàâåé,

On Tue, 12 Jun 2001, Georgi Kolev wrote:

> ßâíî ïðåäíèÿ mail ñúì ãî èçïðàòèë äîñòà àäæàìèéñêàòà. Íàäÿâàì ñå òîâà äà ñå
> ÷åòå.(
Àç ëè÷íî ïðåäíîòî ïèñìî ãî ïðî÷åòîõ, íå çíàì çà äðóãèòå ;-)
 
> Íÿêîé äà çíàå ëèíêîâå è èíôîðìàöèÿ çà îòâîðåíè ïðîåêòè íà îáåêòíè õðàíèëèùà
> (îáåêòíè áàçè äàííè), ñîðñîâå, äîêóìåíòàöèÿ. 
Åäèíñòâåíîòî íåùî, çà êîåòî ñå ñåùàì å PostgreSQL, íî òîâà å
îáåêòíî-ðåëàöèîííà áàçà äàííè. Ñòðóâà ìè ñå, ÷å ìîæå äà ñå ïîëçâà è RDBMS
ñ íÿêàêúâ àáñòðàêòåí èíòåðôåéñ. Ïðèìåðíî ñúõðàíÿâàø îáåêòèòå êàòî ãè
ñåðèàëèçèðàø (ñòàâà ñ Java è Perl, ìîæå è ñ C++ äà ñòàâà) ñëåä òîâà ãè
çàïèñâàø â áàçàòà. Íî òîâà íå å "÷èñòî" îáåêòíî îðèåíòèðàíî ðåøåíèå. Àëà
ìîæå è îòòàì äà ñå ïî÷íå, çàùîòî RDBMS ñà òâúðäî óòâúðäåíè, äîêàòî OO
áàçèòå íå ñà (â ñúùàòà ñòåïåí).

Äà ðàçáèðàì ëè, ÷å òúðñèø object persistance ñàìî, èëè íåùî äîïúëíèòåëíî?
Ìîæåø äà ïèøåø äî ëèñòàòà íà JUG-BG, òàì ñòðóâà ìè ñå ùå ñå íàìåðÿò
çàïîçíàòè ñ òåìàòà.

> Íåùî îò ñîðòà íà Objectivity è
> POET. Âñúùíîñò èìàì íÿêîè äîñòà ñåðèîçíè èäåè çà ïîäîáíà àðõèòåêòóðà êîÿòî
> áè âíåñëà - äà íå ñå èçõâúðëÿì, íî ìèñëÿ ðåâîëþöèîííà (åâîëþöèîííà)
> êîíöåïöèÿ â Ëèíóêñ àðõèòåêòóðàòà.  
Íå ðàçáðàõ êàêâà òî÷íî òè å èäåÿòà, íî Ëèíóêñ å ïî-ñêîðî ñàìî ïëàòôîðìà.
Èëè ñìÿòàø, ÷å òàçè ñèñòåìà ìîæå äà áúäå âãðàäåíà â Ëèíóêñ? Òîãàâà
îáà÷å Ëèíóêñ ùå ïðåñòàíå äà áúäå POSIX OS, òîâà å îïðåäåëåíî ;-)
Åäíà îáåêòíî îðèåíòèðàíà áàçà íå å íóæíî äà å âúðçàíà çà îïðåäåëåíà ÎÑ.

> Íå çíàì äàëè íÿêîé å çàïîçíàò ñ ò.íàð.
> DOT.NET àðõèòåêòóðà íà  Ìicrosoft, (èìàì ïðåäâèä íå òîâà êîåòî ñå ïèøå è
> ðåêëàìèðà ïî ñïèñàíèÿòà, à òîâà êîåòî ñòàâà îòäîëó, ÿäðîòî) 
Ïðåäè äâà äåíà âèäÿõ åäíà ñòàòèÿ ïî âúïðîñà â ñïèñàíèå Wired, ñòð. 76.
Çàãëàâèåòî ìè ñå ñòîðè äîñòà èíòåðåñíî: The MS Federation: Join or be
Assimilated ;-) Ïúê èìåòî íà áàçàòà ñúâñåì íåïîäõîäÿùî ñïîðåä ìåí -
HailStorm ;-)

> íî ìèñëÿ ÷å ìîæå
> äà ñå ïðåäëîæè íåùî äîñòà äîñòà ïî-ãúâêàâî, ïî-ïðîñòî, è äà íå âëà÷è
> ïðîáëåìè îò ïðåäè 10 ãîäèíè. 
Ñèãóðíî ìîæå, âèíàãè ìîæå è ïî-ëåñíî, è ïî-ãúâêàâî, íî...

> Ïðîñòî òðÿáâà äà ñå îáåäèíÿò ïîäõîäÿùî âå÷å
> ðàçðàáîòåíè ñîôòóåðíè ïðîåêòè, îòòàì íàòàòúê âñè÷êî ñå ðàçãðúùà.  
"Ïðîñòî"? ;-) Èëè "ïîäõîäÿùî" ;-)
Ñàìàòà èíòåãðàöèÿ íÿìà äà å òîëêîâà ëåñíà. Äîðè è èíäèâèäóàëíèòå
êîìïîíåíòè äà ìîãàò äà îñèãóðÿò îòäåëíèòå ôóíêöèè, òÿõíîòî ñúáèðàíå â åäíî
ìîæå äà áúäî èçêëþ÷èòåëíî òðóäíî àêî èíòåðôåéñèòå íå ïàñâàò. Ñ óâåëè÷àâàíå
áðîÿ íà êîìïîíåíòèòå ïîñëå íàðàñòâàò è èíòåðôåéñèòå.

> Èäåÿòà å
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RE: lug-bg: Zakon za computarnite prestaplenia

2001-06-12 Thread Nikolai Abromov
Title: RE: lug-bg: Zakon za computarnite prestaplenia



moje 
da sa 3godini ;-)   

  -Original Message-From: Georgi Georgiev 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 5:59 PMTo: 
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  prestaplenia
  i 1000 lv globa :)) 
  -Original Message- From: Bobi 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: 12 June, 2001 5:42 PM To: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: lug-bg: Zakon 
  za computarnite prestaplenia 
  Kum zatvora (za min. edna godina) hodom marsh! 
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lug-bg: two samba one computer

2001-06-12 Thread Hilmi Hilmiev

Zdraweyte

Imate li idei dali mozhe na edin komputer da rabotiat dwa samba servera,
t.e. da se izpolzwat dwa razlichni smb.conf ednowremenno.

Blagodaria wi predwaritelno.

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Re: lug-bg: Zakon za computarnite prestaplenia

2001-06-12 Thread George Danchev

On Tuesday 12 June 2001 17:27, you wrote:
> Koito, bez da ima pravo, pronikne v chujda kompjutyrna sistema...
> Da razbiram li che default seting = nqmam pravo da se rovq v neta?
> Zakon, ta drynka.
Mnogo zavisi kak se rovish , t.e. kakvi prava na dostup polzwash kogato 
vzaimodeistwash s 4ujdata sistema - tezi koito sa oficialno predostaveni ot 
sobstvenicite na sistemata ili tezi koito sam si uspql da si "predostavish" 
po nqkakuv na4in :)
Po-to4no ne e dadeno opredelenie za  zakonno i  nezakonno pronikwane v 4ujda 
komp. sistema  . 

>
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RE: lug-bg: Zakon za computarnite prestaplenia

2001-06-12 Thread Georgi Georgiev
Title: RE: lug-bg: Zakon za computarnite prestaplenia






i 1000 lv globa :))


-Original Message-

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Subject: Re: lug-bg: Zakon za computarnite prestaplenia



Kum zatvora (za min. edna godina) hodom marsh!


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RE: lug-bg: Zakon za computarnite prestaplenia

2001-06-12 Thread Nikolai Abromov
Title: RE: lug-bg: Zakon za computarnite prestaplenia







tova e nai golqmata glupost koqto sum vijdal ..


(no comment)

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Koito, bez da ima pravo, pronikne v chujda kompjutyrna sistema...

Da razbiram li che default seting = nqmam pravo da se rovq v neta?

Zakon, ta drynka.  


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Re: lug-bg: Zakon za computarnite prestaplenia

2001-06-12 Thread Bobi

Kum zatvora (za min. edna godina) hodom marsh!

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Re: lug-bg: iproute2

2001-06-12 Thread Bobi

Izklucitelno dobro e.
Raboti s ogromen trafik, 25 vlan-a i pone 30 filtara na edna 350Mhz mashina -
0.00 CPU natovarvane.
Povecheto bugove sa kozmetichni.

Edinstveniq problem e s dokumentaciqta.

Hristo Nazarov wrote:

> Zdrawejte,
> Nikoj podkarwal li go e towa neshto i kakwi sa mu wpechatleniata?
> Stabilno li e? Abe wobshte struwa li si chowek da se bori s neg0. Specialno
> se interesuwam ot wazmoznostite mu za traffic shaping..
> Pozdrawi
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Re: lug-bg: Zakon za computarnite prestaplenia

2001-06-12 Thread Hristo Genkov

Koito, bez da ima pravo, pronikne v chujda kompjutyrna sistema...
Da razbiram li che default seting = nqmam pravo da se rovq v neta?
Zakon, ta drynka.  

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Re: lug-bg: Zakon za computarnite prestaplenia

2001-06-12 Thread Svetoslav Nikolov

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ђ№џстр ьрыъю фр ёх яшяэх, чрљюђю х фюёђр
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Re: lug-bg: Zakon za computarnite prestaplenia

2001-06-12 Thread Latchesar Ionkov

Interesen document. Samo che bez definicia na izpolzwanite termini, ne moje
da se kaje kolko e polezen. Wyw wseki sluchai e mnogo po-strog ot
syotvetnite zakoni w US -- tuk za da zapochne razsledvane, shtetite triabwa
da sa > ot opredelena suma (mislia che beshe $5).

Lucho

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lug-bg: object storage - again

2001-06-12 Thread Georgi Kolev

ßâíî ïðåäíèÿ mail ñúì ãî èçïðàòèë äîñòà àäæàìèéñêàòà. Íàäÿâàì ñå òîâà äà ñå
÷åòå.(

Íÿêîé äà çíàå ëèíêîâå è èíôîðìàöèÿ çà îòâîðåíè ïðîåêòè íà îáåêòíè õðàíèëèùà
(îáåêòíè áàçè äàííè), ñîðñîâå, äîêóìåíòàöèÿ. Íåùî îò ñîðòà íà Objectivity è
POET. Âñúùíîñò èìàì íÿêîè äîñòà ñåðèîçíè èäåè çà ïîäîáíà àðõèòåêòóðà êîÿòî
áè âíåñëà - äà íå ñå èçõâúðëÿì, íî ìèñëÿ ðåâîëþöèîííà (åâîëþöèîííà)
êîíöåïöèÿ â Ëèíóêñ àðõèòåêòóðàòà.  Íå çíàì äàëè íÿêîé å çàïîçíàò ñ ò.íàð.
DOT.NET àðõèòåêòóðà íà  Ìicrosoft, (èìàì ïðåäâèä íå òîâà êîåòî ñå ïèøå è
ðåêëàìèðà ïî ñïèñàíèÿòà, à òîâà êîåòî ñòàâà îòäîëó, ÿäðîòî) íî ìèñëÿ ÷å ìîæå
äà ñå ïðåäëîæè íåùî äîñòà äîñòà ïî-ãúâêàâî, ïî-ïðîñòî, è äà íå âëà÷è
ïðîáëåìè îò ïðåäè 10 ãîäèíè. Ïðîñòî òðÿáâà äà ñå îáåäèíÿò ïîäõîäÿùî âå÷å
ðàçðàáîòåíè ñîôòóåðíè ïðîåêòè, îòòàì íàòàòúê âñè÷êî ñå ðàçãðúùà.  Èäåÿòà å
äà íå ñå îòêðèâà òîïëàòà âîäà, â êðàéíà ñìåòêà âúðõó âñåêè  ôðàãìåíò îò åäèí
òàêúâ áúäåù ïðîåêò âå÷å å ðàáîòåíî (îáåêòíîòî õðàíèëèùå ìè  å ëèïñâàùî çâåíî
â àðõèòåêòóðàòà).
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Re: lug-bg: PCMCIA ethernet carta sys linux?

2001-06-12 Thread Vladimir Dzhuvinov

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Hello,

On Tue, 12 Jun 2001, Boyan wrote:

> PCMCIA kartata javno e taiwanska i se kazva Apollo i na adresa po-dolu se
> vidjda snimkata zaedno sys spetsifikatsiite.
> 
> http://www.abocom.com.tw/re450.htm
Proizvoditelqt ne e ot osobeno znachenie, vawen s e chipset, kato gledam
po dolu kartata e s 8390 chipset, koito e mnogo razprostranen i raboti s
Linux.
 
> Malko smushtavashto e che na linka tam do listata s compatible notebook
> models ima izredeni baja thinkpad modeli no 600 lipsva. Tova predpolagam e
> po-skoro pechtna greshka, zashtoto kartata raboti na tozi model v win98.
Spokoino, ne e nujno da se izrejda s koi laptops kartata raboti, modelite
sa mnogo. Proizvoditelite na laptops polzvat standartni PCMCIA/Cardbus
controleri, niama miasto za smusteniq ;-)

> > Dobre ste e ako pratish dump ns lsmod
> Po-kysno shte moga da sym tochen. Vyv vseki sluchai si zapisah po-vadjnite
> moduli koito se zarediha i tova bjaha
> pcnet_cs,mousedev,hid,8390,usbcore,input,usb-uhci,ds,i82365,pcmcia_core,
Stom se zarewda 8390, znachi kartata se razpoznava.
8390 is the driver for the PCMCIA
i82365 is the PCMCIA controller (Intelski)
 
 
> > Rekompiliral li si iadroto? Ako si, ste triabva da rekompilirash i PCMCIA
> > package.
> 
> Jadro ne sym kompiliral, no kato mu doide vremeto shte opitam. Njakak mi
> se iskashe pyrvo da opravja vryzkata sys sveta predi navlizam v
> po-advanced topics.
Imai predvid, che sled kato rekompilirash iadroto, ste triabva da
rekompolirash i PCMCIA package.
 

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lug-bg: Zakon za computarnite prestaplenia

2001-06-12 Thread Svetoslav Traikov - SLAVI

http://www.mjeli.government.bg/nk.htm

No comment
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lug-bg: Modem za naeta liniq

2001-06-12 Thread Jordan Merachev



Zdravejte,
 
Imam Linux box s RedHat6.2, koito iskam da izpolzvam kato 
router. Vaprosa mi e kak da instaliram modem za naeta linia, dali trqbva da se 
prekompilira qdroto.
Ste sam vi mnogo blagodaren ako mi pusnete nqkakvo mini 
HowTo.
 
Izvinqvam se za elementarniq vapros, no vse pak trqbva da 
zapochna otnqkade.
 
Thanx in advance


Re: lug-bg: PCMCIA ethernet carta sys linux?

2001-06-12 Thread Boyan

Blagodarja za byrzija otgovor.

shte ti otgovorja kratko, a po-kysno shte imam vyzmodjnost da
probvam tvoeto predlodjenie i da dokladvam za napredyka. Na vyprosite:

> > Kartata e No name ethernet lan NE 2000 compatible i e raboteshta.
> Stom kato e NE2000 compatible, bi triabvalo da raboti!

PCMCIA kartata javno e taiwanska i se kazva Apollo i na adresa po-dolu se
vidjda snimkata zaedno sys spetsifikatsiite.

http://www.abocom.com.tw/re450.htm

Malko smushtavashto e che na linka tam do listata s compatible notebook
models ima izredeni baja thinkpad modeli no 600 lipsva. Tova predpolagam e
po-skoro pechtna greshka, zashtoto kartata raboti na tozi model v win98.

> Dobre ste e ako pratish dump ns lsmod
Po-kysno shte moga da sym tochen. Vyv vseki sluchai si zapisah po-vadjnite
moduli koito se zarediha i tova bjaha
pcnet_cs,mousedev,hid,8390,usbcore,input,usb-uhci,ds,i82365,pcmcia_core,


> Rekompiliral li si iadroto? Ako si, ste triabva da rekompilirash i PCMCIA
> package.

Jadro ne sym kompiliral, no kato mu doide vremeto shte opitam. Njakak mi
se iskashe pyrvo da opravja vryzkata sys sveta predi navlizam v
po-advanced topics.

Pozdravi,
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lug-bg: PGP & Cyr

2001-06-12 Thread Ivaylo Toshev

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çàáåëÿçàõ ÷å wwwkeys ñúðâúðèòå íà web of trust, íå ïîääúðæàò íàøàòà êèðèëèöà, 
èìàò ñàìî Latin1, Latin2, koi-8, è utf-8. êàêòî âèæäàòå è îò òîâà ïèñìî ;-)

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Re: lug-bg: PCMCIA ethernet carta sys linux?

2001-06-12 Thread Vladimir Dzhuvinov

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On Tue, 12 Jun 2001, Boyan wrote:

> Zdraveite,

Zdravej,
 
> ne stava i ne stava, a dosta usilija polodjihme. Stava vypros za edin
> laptop tuka v instituta thinkpad 600, na koito instalirahme suse 7.1 s
> dvata kernela 2.2.18 i 2.4.0 ( E za vseki sluchai ostavihme i partition
> s win 98). Konfiguratsijata na hardware mina bez problemi, s izklujchenie
> na ethernet kartata. Medjdu nas tuka njama otjavleni linux spetsialisti i
> se nadjavame,che njakoi ot listata modje da pomogne v diagnozata na
> problema. Kakyv e tochno problema:
Ne bi triabvalo da imash nikakvi problemi, osobeno s ThinkPad. Az polzvam
edin i toi raboti bezproblemno s PCMCIA na Linux 2.0.34 (Slackware 3.4)
Testvan e s SMC 10/100 Eth, D-Link 10 Eth, Orinoco Wireless Eth.

> Kartata e No name ethernet lan NE 2000 compatible i e raboteshta. 
Stom kato e NE2000 compatible, bi triabvalo da raboti!

> Raboti
> bezotkazno na win98 i e rabotila s linux 2.2.14 na drug komputer. Na tozi
> thinkpad ne shte. Vsyhstnost raboti no osobeno: na malkoto adapterche
> koeto se okacha kym pcmcia slota ima dve lampichki. zelenata sveti
> postojanno t.e. ima vryzka i orangevata miga t.e. bi trjabvalo da raboti.
> Pri opit da se otvori njakoi url kazva bad adres. Ot druga strana
> konfiguratsijata na IP i gateway i DNS e vjarna, syshtata ,kojato pravim
> pri windowsa. Kato pogledne chovek /var/log/messages vidjda edin kup
> greshki syobshteni ot cardmanagera. Razbira se zaredjda si vsichki
> neobhodimi moduli kato pcmcia_core, ds, i82365, pcnet_cs. 
Triabva sa ima oste edin modul, tozi za samia hardware driver. 
Dobre ste e ako pratish dump ns lsmod

> Moga da go
> prilodja tozi fail ako njakoi se pointeresuva. Nabiva se na ochi
> syobshtenieto: cannot stat /etc/resolv.conf No such file. Ima estestveno
> takyv fail i tam korektno sa posocheni DNS adresite.
Tova e ot skripta, koito se startira sled vkarvaneto na kartata.
 
> Ima li njakoi ot vas predstava ot tochnata protsedura (kato za debili) za
> instalirane na NE 2000 compatible pcmcia LAN karta v linux? Inache si e
> goljama myka da se rebootva windows vseki pyt kogato se nalodji polzvane
> na internet. Vsjako predlodjenie ili link e dobre doshlo.

Predlagam slednoto:

1. vkarai kartata, triabva da chuesh dva *beep* 

2. proveri dali sa startirani modulite s lsmod

3. Sled tova proveri dali eth0 interface e startiran/konfiguriran
s ifconfig

4. Za eth0 konfiguraciqta startirai linuxconf, ottam ot basic host
information mojesh da definirash parametrite; ne e nujno da 
posochvash kernel module, nito IRQ, nito I/O address

Tova e.


Rekompiliral li si iadroto? Ako si, ste triabva da rekompilirash i PCMCIA
package.


 
> Pozdravi,
> Boyan.

Pozdravi,

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Re: lug-bg: iproute2

2001-06-12 Thread Ivaylo Tsanov

Ne sym izsledval vyzmozshnostite na iproute2, no pyk za smetka na tova ima
strahotno napisan script za CBQ shaping cbq.init.
Ako te interesuva samo shaping drasni edin lichen e-mail za da ne
zadrystvame listata :)
Ivo.
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 7:57 PM
Subject: lug-bg: iproute2


> Zdrawejte,
> Nikoj podkarwal li go e towa neshto i kakwi sa mu wpechatleniata?
> Stabilno li e? Abe wobshte struwa li si chowek da se bori s neg0.
Specialno
> se interesuwam ot wazmoznostite mu za traffic shaping..
> Pozdrawi
> Hristo
>
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Re: lug-bg: vmware

2001-06-12 Thread Stanislav Lechev

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a movesh da wzemesh i cygwin
dobro e :)
sega neznam na kyw hal e ama predi wreme besh good

On Tuesday 12 June 2001 07:05, Simeon Vlahov wrote:
> Hello lug-bg,
>
>   Znam che shte me biete ama ... ima li neshto podobno na vmware
>   obache za win98?
>   problema e che iskam bez da rebootvam da si kompiliram kernela
>   naprimer :)

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Re: lug-bg: vmware

2001-06-12 Thread Stanislav Lechev

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winlinux

On Tuesday 12 June 2001 07:05, Simeon Vlahov wrote:
> Hello lug-bg,
>
>   Znam che shte me biete ama ... ima li neshto podobno na vmware
>   obache za win98?
>   problema e che iskam bez da rebootvam da si kompiliram kernela
>   naprimer :)

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lug-bg: PCMCIA ethernet carta sys linux?

2001-06-12 Thread Boyan

Zdraveite,

ne stava i ne stava, a dosta usilija polodjihme. Stava vypros za edin
laptop tuka v instituta thinkpad 600, na koito instalirahme suse 7.1 s
dvata kernela 2.2.18 i 2.4.0 ( E za vseki sluchai ostavihme i partition
s win 98). Konfiguratsijata na hardware mina bez problemi, s izklujchenie
na ethernet kartata. Medjdu nas tuka njama otjavleni linux spetsialisti i
se nadjavame,che njakoi ot listata modje da pomogne v diagnozata na
problema. Kakyv e tochno problema:

Kartata e No name ethernet lan NE 2000 compatible i e raboteshta. Raboti
bezotkazno na win98 i e rabotila s linux 2.2.14 na drug komputer. Na tozi
thinkpad ne shte. Vsyhstnost raboti no osobeno: na malkoto adapterche
koeto se okacha kym pcmcia slota ima dve lampichki. zelenata sveti
postojanno t.e. ima vryzka i orangevata miga t.e. bi trjabvalo da raboti.
Pri opit da se otvori njakoi url kazva bad adres. Ot druga strana
konfiguratsijata na IP i gateway i DNS e vjarna, syshtata ,kojato pravim
pri windowsa. Kato pogledne chovek /var/log/messages vidjda edin kup
greshki syobshteni ot cardmanagera. Razbira se zaredjda si vsichki
neobhodimi moduli kato pcmcia_core, ds, i82365, pcnet_cs. Moga da go
prilodja tozi fail ako njakoi se pointeresuva. Nabiva se na ochi
syobshtenieto: cannot stat /etc/resolv.conf No such file. Ima estestveno
takyv fail i tam korektno sa posocheni DNS adresite.

Ima li njakoi ot vas predstava ot tochnata protsedura (kato za debili) za
instalirane na NE 2000 compatible pcmcia LAN karta v linux? Inache si e
goljama myka da se rebootva windows vseki pyt kogato se nalodji polzvane
na internet. Vsjako predlodjenie ili link e dobre doshlo.

Pozdravi,
Boyan.


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lug-bg: Re: Otnowo Bulgarin se e predstawil dobre 4estito na MS

2001-06-12 Thread Stanislav Lechev

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ako cheteshe bugtraq shteshe da sreshtash imeto mu pone 1-2 pyti sedmichno
:)
On Monday 11 June 2001 02:59, Svetoslav Traikov wrote:
> W4era se roveh iz rootshell org i wijte na kakwo popadnah:)
>
> (Ed: A quick check of other services that allow you to read your own mail
> from any POP3 server found that hotmail isn't the only one with this
> problem.  We went to www.thatweb.com and found they have the same problem.
> A test of Yahoo!Mail found that they replace javascript with java-script
> anywhere in an e-mail.)
>
> Hotmail security hole - injecting JavaScript using
> Georgi Guninski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Georgi Guninski security advisory #1, 2000
>
> Hotmail security hole - injecting JavaScript using  LOWSRC="javascript:">
>
> Disclaimer:
>
> The opinions expressed in this advisory and program are my own and not of
> any company. The usual standard disclaimer applies, especially the fact
> that
> Georgi Guninski is not liable for any damages caused by direct or indirect
> use of the information or functionality provided by this program. Georgi
> Guninski, bears NO responsibility for content or misuse of this program or
> any derivatives thereof.
>
> Description:
> Hotmail allows executing JavaScript code in email messages using  LOWSRC="javascript:">,
> which may compromise user's Hotmail mailbox.
>
> Details:
>
> There is a major security flaw in Hotmail which allows injecting and
> executing JavaScript code in an email message using the javascript
> protocol.
> This exploit works both on Internet Explorer 5.x (almost sure IE 4.x) and
> Netscape Communicator 4.x. Hotmail filters the "javascript:" protocol for
> security reasons. But the following JavaScript is executed:  LOWSRC="javascript:alert('Javascript is executed')"> if the user has
> enabled
> automatically loading of images (most users have).
>
> Executing JavaScript when the user opens Hotmail email message allows for
> example displaying a fake login screen where the user enters his password
> which is then stolen. I don't want to make a scary demonstration, but it
> is
> also possible to read user's messages, to send messages from user's name
> and
> doing other mischief. It is also possible to get the cookie from Hotmail,
> which is dangerous. Hotmail deliberately escapes all JavaScript (it can
> escape) to prevent such attacks, but obviously there are holes. It is much
> easier to exploit this vulnerability if the user uses Internet Explorer
> 5.x
>
> Workaround: Disable JavaScript
>
> The code that must be included in HTML email message is:
> 
> 
> 
>
> Regards,
> Georgi Guninski
> http://www.nat.bg/~joro
>
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Re: lug-bg: Re: Predavaneto na 09.June (fwd)

2001-06-12 Thread Stoyan Jekov
George Akabaliev wrote:
> 
> From: "Valentin Valchev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 09:32:05 +0300
> I tam ne stawa. Kazwa mi 4e niakakyw .css fajl lipswa.

Zabrani si rabotata sys css w Netscape:

Edit | Preferences | Advanced | Enable Style Sheets

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Re: lug-bg: Re: Predavaneto na 09.June (fwd)

2001-06-12 Thread George Akabaliev

From: "Valentin Valchev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 09:32:05 +0300
To:  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: lug-bg: Re: Predavaneto na 09.June (fwd)


http://www.pcradio.netbg.com/archive_index.html"; TARGET="_new">http://www.pcradio.netbg.com/archive_index.html
> 
I tam ne stawa. Kazwa mi 4e niakakyw .css fajl lipswa.

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RE: lug-bg: iproute2

2001-06-12 Thread Georgi Georgiev
Title: RE: lug-bg: iproute2






Raboti mnogo priqtno - ima makirane na paketi

Da - puskash shaping i CBQ 

Oswen towa pozwolqwa po kolkoto iskate default route-owe iskate

i kakwo li oste ne - systinski router :)

George


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From: Hristo Nazarov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Sent: 12 June, 2001 7:58 PM

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: lug-bg: iproute2



Zdrawejte,

Nikoj podkarwal li go e towa neshto i kakwi sa mu wpechatleniata?

Stabilno li e? Abe wobshte struwa li si chowek da se bori s neg0. Specialno

se interesuwam ot wazmoznostite mu za traffic shaping..

Pozdrawi

Hristo


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