lug-bg: TLS + MTA (malko teoria + praktika)

2003-03-13 Thread Vesselin Kolev
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Zdraveite,

   Poluchih 3 pisma ot mnogo vyodusheveni hora, reshili da
prilagat TLS v svoite MTA (postfix, sendmail) sled edin moi
posting.

  Naistina, TLS predlaga kodirane na obmenianata mezhdu MTA
informacia. No ima i niakoi shematichni osobenosti, za koito 
traibva da se dyrzhi smetka.

  Za da mozhe naistina vryzkata v kodirania si vid da e nadezhdna,
a sesiata dostoverna za priemashtia ia MTA, to e nuzhno da 
imate podpisan ot CA sertifikat. Za tova razbira se, shte traibva
da se plati. No pyt tova mozhe da vi pozvoli da gradite RELAY
politika na nivo sertificat (t.e. vashiat MTA da e smart host samo
za takiva MTA, chiito certifikat vie ste opisali kato validen vyv
vashtata access lista).

  Za da mozhe mail potoka za edin domain da minava izcialo 
po kodirana vryzka e neobhodimo vsichki MTA ukazani v MX
ierarhiata na domaina da poddyrzhat TLS, a syshto taka i 
izprashtastia MTA da ima TLS poddryzhka. S edna duma v 
detaili e malko slozhno.

  Razbira se, idealnoto reshenie, pri koeto mozhe da se izpolzva
TLS e kodirane na mail potoka mezhdu mail hubovete na edna
organizacia. 

  Nuzhno e da se ima predvid, che niakoi MTA ne razbirat ot
TLSv1:

  # CommuniGate Pro 3.2.4 (and 3.2.3)
  # CommuniGate Pro 3.3betaX
  # InterChange v3.61.01

  Ima problemi i s contactuvaneto sys MTA izpolzvashti RSARef,
ako izpolzvanite kliuchove sa po-golemi ot 1024 bita (posledniat
problem ne e chisto tehnologichen, no e tvyrde trudno da se obiasni
iasno, ima i politicheski otenyk).

  Razbira se, neka tova ne se vyzpriema kato obezsyrchavane ili
gasene na entusiazma na horata. Izpolzvaite TLS, uchete se da
si konfigurirate MTA s TLS poddryzhka, no vinagi otchitaite specifikata
na neshtata.

  Pozdravi i pozhelania za uspeh kym vsichki v izpozvaneto na TLS

Vesselin Kolev
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Re: lug-bg: TLS + MTA (malko teoria + praktika)

2003-03-13 Thread Todor Belev
Vsyshnost, 
tova koeto men lichno me kasae e ne principnia vypros che trebe da bydat podpisani ot 
validno CA - sertifikat moje chovek da si generira sam.
Iska mi se da spedelia opit s hora, koito ne obmeniat mail potoci mejdu MTA, a 
komunikaciata mejdu MTA i MUA.
Sirech koi Mail klienti vladeiat prasthane pres TLS kriptirana SMTP sesia, i kak po 
tochno naprimer v MS Outlook stava importiraneto na sertifikat, ne podpisan ot CA.
Opitite za takova importirane na sertificat polzvan za secure SMTP na Postfix i MS 
Outlook zasega sa neuspeshni.
Za razlika ot naprimer sertifikatite za secure POP3 i secure IMAP, koito se 
importiraha dosta uspeshno.
Ima li niakoi opit s Kmail, Evolution ili Sylpheed otnosno rabota s TLS MTA.

Todorin


    
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 Zdraveite,
 
Poluchih 3 pisma ot mnogo vyodusheveni hora, reshili da
 prilagat TLS v svoite MTA (postfix, sendmail) sled edin moi
 posting.
 
   Naistina, TLS predlaga kodirane na obmenianata mezhdu MTA
 informacia. No ima i niakoi shematichni osobenosti, za koito 
 traibva da se dyrzhi smetka.
 
   Za da mozhe naistina vryzkata v kodirania si vid da e nadezhdna,
 a sesiata dostoverna za priemashtia ia MTA, to e nuzhno da 
 imate podpisan ot CA sertifikat. Za tova razbira se, shte traibva
 da se plati. No pyt tova mozhe da vi pozvoli da gradite RELAY
 politika na nivo sertificat (t.e. vashiat MTA da e smart host samo
 za takiva MTA, chiito certifikat vie ste opisali kato validen vyv
 vashtata access lista).
 
   Za da mozhe mail potoka za edin domain da minava izcialo 
 po kodirana vryzka e neobhodimo vsichki MTA ukazani v MX
 ierarhiata na domaina da poddyrzhat TLS, a syshto taka i 
 izprashtastia MTA da ima TLS poddryzhka. S edna duma v 
 detaili e malko slozhno.
 
   Razbira se, idealnoto reshenie, pri koeto mozhe da se izpolzva
 TLS e kodirane na mail potoka mezhdu mail hubovete na edna
 organizacia. 
 
   Nuzhno e da se ima predvid, che niakoi MTA ne razbirat ot
 TLSv1:
 
   # CommuniGate Pro 3.2.4 (and 3.2.3)
   # CommuniGate Pro 3.3betaX
   # InterChange v3.61.01
 
   Ima problemi i s contactuvaneto sys MTA izpolzvashti RSARef,
 ako izpolzvanite kliuchove sa po-golemi ot 1024 bita (posledniat
 problem ne e chisto tehnologichen, no e tvyrde trudno da se obiasni
 iasno, ima i politicheski otenyk).
 
   Razbira se, neka tova ne se vyzpriema kato obezsyrchavane ili
 gasene na entusiazma na horata. Izpolzvaite TLS, uchete se da
 si konfigurirate MTA s TLS poddryzhka, no vinagi otchitaite specifikata
 na neshtata.
 
   Pozdravi i pozhelania za uspeh kym vsichki v izpozvaneto na TLS
 
 Vesselin Kolev
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Re: lug-bg: TLS + MTA (malko teoria + praktika)

2003-03-13 Thread Dancho Mitev

Zdrasti,
Temata i na men mi e mnogo interesna.
Imam edin - dwa wyprosa:

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From: Vesselin Kolev [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: 13  2003 ?. 10:01
Subject: lug-bg: TLS + MTA (malko teoria + praktika)


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 Zdraveite,

Poluchih 3 pisma ot mnogo vyodusheveni hora, reshili da
 prilagat TLS v svoite MTA (postfix, sendmail) sled edin moi
 posting.

   Naistina, TLS predlaga kodirane na obmenianata mezhdu MTA
 informacia. No ima i niakoi shematichni osobenosti, za koito
 traibva da se dyrzhi smetka.

   Za da mozhe naistina vryzkata v kodirania si vid da e nadezhdna,
 a sesiata dostoverna za priemashtia ia MTA, to e nuzhno da
 imate podpisan ot CA sertifikat. Za tova razbira se, shte traibva

Wyzmovno li e da se izpolzwa samopodpisan sertifikat?
(pone za testowe? - predpolagam che da).
Wyzmovno li e da se izpolzwa syshtiqt sertifikat ot CA kojto se izpolzwa s
apache ili trqbwa da se kupuwa otdelen?


 da se plati. No pyt tova mozhe da vi pozvoli da gradite RELAY
 politika na nivo sertificat (t.e. vashiat MTA da e smart host samo
 za takiva MTA, chiito certifikat vie ste opisali kato validen vyv
 vashtata access lista).

   Za da mozhe mail potoka za edin domain da minava izcialo
 po kodirana vryzka e neobhodimo vsichki MTA ukazani v MX
 ierarhiata na domaina da poddyrzhat TLS, a syshto taka i
 izprashtastia MTA da ima TLS poddryzhka. S edna duma v
 detaili e malko slozhno.

   Razbira se, idealnoto reshenie, pri koeto mozhe da se izpolzva
 TLS e kodirane na mail potoka mezhdu mail hubovete na edna
 organizacia.

Move li poluchatelq da razbere po nqkakyw nachin che mevdu dwata MTA
negowoto syobshtenie e bilo ( ili ne e bilo ) transferirano w kriptiran wid
s TLS?

Blagodarq predwaritelno,

Pozdrawi

Dan


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Re: lug-bg: RealTek switch

2003-03-13 Thread Bozhan Bozhkov
 
 
  
  
  i kolko struva tova?
  
 
 
 190 lv v Technopolis
 
basi - che to hub, ili dazhe malyk switch shte izleze mnogo po na dalavera!



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Re: lug-bg: TLS + MTA (malko teoria + praktika)

2003-03-13 Thread Vesselin Kolev
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Zdravei i blagodaria za vyprosite. Tova sa naistina umestni vyprosi.


On Thursday 13 Mar 2003 12:20, Dancho Mitev wrote:
 Zdrasti,
 Temata i na men mi e mnogo interesna.
 Imam edin - dwa wyprosa:

 Wyzmovno li e da se izpolzwa samopodpisan sertifikat?
 (pone za testowe? - predpolagam che da).
 Wyzmovno li e da se izpolzwa syshtiqt sertifikat ot CA kojto se izpolzwa s
 apache ili trqbwa da se kupuwa otdelen?

Po princip, ako ne si platish za da ti byde podpisan sertifikata ot
strana na CA ti izpolzvash self-signed (samopodpisan) certificat.
Razlika mezhdu certifikatite za apache i sendmail niama. Te sa X.509
PKI specifichni. Mislia obache, che imashe problemi ot chisto
pravna gledna tochka za izpolzvaneto na edin certificate za niakolko
uslugi. No naistina shte traibva da se pointeresuvam dopylnitelno za
polozhenieto, kogato si si platil dali mozhesh da izpolzvash certificata
za vsichki uslugi ili vlizash v niakakvi narushenia po dogovora.


 Move li poluchatelq da razbere po nqkakyw nachin che mevdu dwata MTA
 negowoto syobshtenie e bilo ( ili ne e bilo ) transferirano w kriptiran wid
 s TLS?


Da, razbira se, che mozhe. V headera na pismoto se otbeliazva tova. Eto
ti e edin primer:

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  by dir.bg (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.0.6)
  with ESMTP-TLS id 16529586 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 11 Mar 2003 
12:53:34 +0200
Received: from e-lib.vpn.lcpe.uni-sofia.bg (e-lib.vpn.lcpe.uni-sofia.bg 
[192.168.100.111])
(authenticated bits=0)
by lcpe.uni-sofia.bg (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h2DCBJqF001950
(version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO)
for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 14:11:27 +0200
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V zhurnalnia file za MTA syshto se otbeliazva cialata sesia (razbira se 
informaciata zavisi ot tova kakyv debug level si zadal na syslog):

Mar 13 14:11:19 lcpe sendmail[1950]: NOQUEUE: connect from 
e-lib.vpn.lcpe.uni-sofia.bg [192.168.100.111]

Mar 13 14:11:19 lcpe sendmail[1950]: AUTH: available mech=PLAIN OTP LOGIN 
DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 ANONYMOUS, allowed mech=EXTERNAL LOGIN PLAIN

Mar 13 14:11:19 lcpe sendmail[1950]: STARTTLS=server, 
relay=e-lib.vpn.lcpe.uni-sofia.bg [192.168.100.111], version=TLSv1/SSLv3, 
verify=NO, cipher=RC4-MD5, bits=128/128

Mar 13 14:11:19 lcpe sendmail[1950]: STARTTLS=server, cert-subject=, 
cert-issuer=

Mar 13 14:11:19 lcpe sendmail[1950]: AUTH: available mech=PLAIN OTP LOGIN 
DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 ANONYMOUS, allowed mech=EXTERNAL LOGIN PLAIN

Mar 13 14:11:27 lcpe sendmail[1950]: AUTH=server, 
relay=e-lib.vpn.lcpe.uni-sofia.bg [192.168.100.111], authid=vlk, mech=LOGIN, 
bits=0

Mar 13 14:11:27 lcpe sendmail[1950]: h2DCBJqF001950: 
from=[EMAIL PROTECTED], size=402, class=0, nrcpts=1, 
msgid=[EMAIL PROTECTED], proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA, 
relay=e-lib.vpn.lcpe.uni-sofia.bg [192.168.100.111]

Mar 13 14:11:29 lcpe sendmail[1953]: h2DCBJqF001950: SMTP outgoing connect on 
lcpe.uni-sofia.bg

Mar 13 14:11:34 lcpe sendmail[1953]: STARTTLS: ClientCertFile missing

Mar 13 14:11:34 lcpe sendmail[1953]: STARTTLS: ClientKeyFile missing

Mar 13 14:11:34 lcpe sendmail[1953]: STARTTLS=client, init=1

Mar 13 14:11:34 lcpe sendmail[1953]: STARTTLS=client, start=ok

Mar 13 14:11:35 lcpe sendmail[1953]: STARTTLS=client, relay=mail.dir.bg., 
version=TLSv1/SSLv3, verify=OK, cipher=DES-CBC3-SHA, bits=168/168

Mar 13 14:11:35 lcpe sendmail[1953]: STARTTLS=client, 
cert-subject=/C=BG/ST=Sofia/L=Sofia/O=Dir.bg+20AD/OU=secure+20development/CN=mail.dir.bg/[EMAIL
 PROTECTED], 
cert-issuer=/C=ZA/ST=Western+20Cape/L=Cape+20Town/O=Thawte+20Consulting+20cc/OU=Certification+20Services+20Division/CN=Thawte+20Server+20CA/

Mar 13 14:11:35 lcpe sendmail[1953]: AUTH=client, relay=mail.dir.bg., mech=, 
bits=0

Mar 13 14:11:36 lcpe sendmail[1953]: h2DCBJqF001950: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], 
ctladdr=[EMAIL PROTECTED] (1002/100), delay=00:00:09, xdelay=00:00:09, 
mailer=esmtp, pri=30397, relay=mail.dir.bg. [194.145.63.28], dsn=2.0.0, 
stat=Sent (16529986 message accepted for delivery)

Mar 13 14:11:36 lcpe sendmail[1953]: h2DCBJqF001950: done; delay=00:00:09, 
ntries=1


 Blagodarq predwaritelno,

 Pozdrawi

 Dan


Nadiavam se:) Si poluchil ako ne izcherpatelna, to pone konkretna informacia.

Mislia da publikuvam edin alpha document za izpolzvaneto na TLS sys sendmail.
Stiga razbira se niakoi da ima nuzhda ot tova.

Pozdravi
Vesselin Kolev
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Re: lug-bg: mail.bg

2003-03-13 Thread svetla
vijte puk moiata diskuskia s vuprosnite specove na mail.bg..: 

Zdraveyte,  

ima edin vupros:
zashto nqmam access do smtp-to vi ot 212.36.16.1 ? 
Ïðè îáðàòíèÿò Âè ðåçîëâèíã îòãîâàðÿò ìíîãî IP àäðåñè, ïî ñòàíäàðò òîâà
íåòðÿáâà äà å òàêà. Ïëþñ òîâà ñòå èì ïèñàëè èìåíàòà ñ ãëàâíè áóêâè, êîåòî
íå å ïðåïîðú÷èòåëíî. Àêî òðÿáâà ùå Âè êàæåì êàêâî íå Âè å íàðåä, ñïîðåä
RFC. 


zashto nqmam access do smtp-to vi ot 212.36.16.1 ? 
Çàùîòî ðóòèíãà å êàëïàâ èëè ïî ïúòÿ èìàòå íÿêàêúâ ôàéúðóîë. Ìîæå
ïðîáëåìúò äà å è â Áîë.áã, ò.ê. ïúòÿ ìèíàâà ïðåç òàì. Ìîæåòå äà ñå
ñâúðæåòå ñ òÿõ è äà èì çàäàäåòå òîçè âúïðîñ, àêî è âàøèÿ òðåéñ å òàêúâ,
êàòî íàøèÿ. Ñàìî íå ìîãà äà ðàçáåðà çàùî òî÷íî îò òàì ìèíàâà - íÿìàòå ëè
äðóãà âðúçêà?!? 

$ traceroute 212.36.16.1
traceroute to 212.36.16.1 (212.36.16.1), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
1  mx-balancer.mail.bg (193.201.172.113)  0.684 ms  0.193 ms  0.162 ms
2  bol2mail.mail.bg (193.201.172.26)  0.418 ms  0.326 ms  0.322 ms
3  bol2spnet.spnet.net (212.50.10.237)  1.465 ms  1.375 ms  2.734 ms
4  * * *
5  * 

Àêî è ïðè âàñ çàïèðà òàì çíà÷è å ÿñíî êúäå ñå ãóáè âðúçêàòà. Èñêàì ñàìî
äà äîïúëíÿ, ÷å öÿëàòà íè çîíà ãî âèæäà òàêà. Âñè÷êè ìàøèíè ñòèãàò äî òàì.
Ñïîðåä ìåí òîâà å íÿêàêúâ ôàéúðóîë, íî íå ñúì óáåäåí, ÷å òîâà ñïèðà
ïîùàòà. Àêî èçïîëçâàòå íÿêàêúâ ÍÀÒ ìîæå äà èäâà îò äðóã àäðåñ äî íàñ. 


pozvoleno e i oshte kak ... 
Äà - ïîçâîëåíî å, íî ÃÎÐÅÙÎ íå ñå ïðåïîðú÷âà - ùå èçïîëçâàì öèòàò îò
òîâà, êîåòî ñòå íè èçïðàòèëè: But that doesn't mean applications will
pay attention. That's were the majority of the problem lies Ùå
äîáàâÿ è òîâà, ÷å íÿêîè âåðñèè íà DJBDNS (äà, ñúãëàñåí ñúì - íå âñè÷êè)
ñ÷èòàò ðåçîëâèíãà çà íåâàëèäåí è íå âðúùàò íèùî â òàêúâ ñëó÷àé. È òîâà íå
å íèòî ñëó÷àéíî, íèòî å ãðåøêà.  ñëåäâàùèòå âåðñèè å ïðîìåíåíî, ïðîñòî
çàðàäè òàêèâà êàòî âàñ, êîèòî èñêàò äà ðàáîòÿò íà ãðàíèöèòå íà âúçìîæíîòî
è èçâúí ãðàíèöèòå íà äîïóñòèìîòî. Èíòåðåñíî å äà ñå îòáåëåæè, ÷å
ôóíêöèÿòà gethostbyname() (àêî íå ãðåøà òàêà áåøå) ñúùî àìà õè÷ íå ñå
èíòåðåñóâà îò äðóãèòå PTR. À 90% îò ïðèëîæåíèÿòà èçïîëçâàò òúêìî íåÿ. È
íèêîé íå ñå å çàñèëèë äà ãè îïðàâÿ ñàìî çàùîòî âèå ñìÿòàòå, ÷å ïîíåæå å
ðàçðåøåíî, òà òðÿáâà äà ñå ïîëçâà. 





Teodor Georgiev writes: 

 

ti pogledni che ITD ne sa mu dali prava vyrhu zonata.
Posochili sa tehnite nameserveri. 

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From: Vesselin Kolev [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 12:46 AM
Subject: Re: lug-bg: mail.bg 


Prichinata poradi koiato stava tova, e che imeto na host, koeto se
predostavia pri ustanoviavaneto na sesiata i zadavneto na EHLO
posledvano ot ime n host, ne syvpada s in-addr.arpa izvlechenoto
ime na tvoia mail server. T.e. vmesto mano.pazarjik.com, ti
izprashtash dns.pazarjik.com. 

Eto zatova na stava. 

Prosto ukazhi v sendmaila si, che pylnoto kvalificirano ime na
tvoia host e mano.pazardjik.com i vsichko shte byde nared. Ili
pyk ukazhi v zonata na 125.145.213.in-addr.arpa 

130   PTR  dns.pazardjik.com. 

i taka niama da promeniash imeto zadavano ot sendmail pri
izprashtane na EHLO. 

Procheti i RFC 821. Interesno e! 

   Pozdravi
  Vesselin Kolev
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From: Marian Popov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 9:17 PM
Subject: lug-bg: mail.bg 

 Zdraveite !

 Niakoi ima li ideia zashto ne moga da prashtam mail
 kym mail.bg ? Predi imashe problem che ne mi se
 resolve-ashe adresa ot koito prashtam.
 Ama sega se resolve i ne znam kakvo stava.

 The original message was received at Wed, 12 Mar 2003 20:02:35 +0200
 from mano.pazardjik.com [213.145.125.130]

- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (reason: 550 dns.pazardjik.com: Helo command rejected: [BG]
npenpameme
 moBa nucMo Ha gocmaB4uka cu; [EN] Pl...ICH DOES NOT CONFORM TO RFC-821
 SECTION 3.5 BECAUSE IT COULD NOT BE RESOLVED. See http://mail.bg/mta)

- Transcript of session follows -
 ... while talking to mx1.mail.bg.:
  HELO dns.pazardjik.com
  550 dns.pazardjik.com: Helo command rejected: [BG] npenpameme moBa
 nucMo Ha gocmaB4uka cu; [EN] Please forward this mail to your ISP; [-]
YOUR
 SERVER pazardjik.com[213.145.125.2] SENDS WRONG EHLO
dns.pazardjik.com,
 WHICH DOES NOT CONFORM TO RFC-821 SECTION 3.5 BECAUSE IT COULD NOT BE
 RESOLVED. See http://mail.bg/mta
 ... while talking to mx2.mail.bg.:
  HELO dns.pazardjik.com
  550 dns.pazardjik.com: Helo command rejected: [BG] npenpameme moBa
 nucMo Ha gocmaB4uka cu; [EN] Please forward this mail to your ISP; [-]
YOUR
 SERVER pazardjik.com[213.145.125.2] SENDS WRONG EHLO
dns.pazardjik.com,
 WHICH DOES NOT CONFORM TO RFC-821 SECTION 3.5 BECAUSE IT COULD NOT BE
 RESOLVED. See http://mail.bg/mta
 554 5.0.0 Service unavailable



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Re: lug-bg: mail.bg

2003-03-13 Thread svetla
da,
ti mojesh da si go napravish...i shte mojesh da prashtash..no te samite 
neznaiat kak da go napraviat kato horata -  (imenno za tova ima dosta hora s 
tvoia problem) ...tova e sushtinata na problema! 

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System Administrator
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#48332919 



Marian Popov writes: 

md kvo sym tele
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- Original Message -
From: Boyan Krosnov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 1:32 AM
Subject: RE: lug-bg: mail.bg 


Sender domain-a ot MAIL FROM: i imeto ot HELO trqbva da se resolvvat.
=
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dig a dns.pazardjik.com 

;  DiG 9.2.1  dns.pazardjik.com
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NXDOMAIN, id: 37551
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0 

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;dns.pazardjik.com. IN  A 

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
pazardjik.com.  10800   IN  SOA ns.pazardjik.com.
root.pazardjik.com. 2001022401 3600 900 360 14400 

;; Query time: 98 msec
;; SERVER: 127.0.0.1#53(127.0.0.1)
;; WHEN: Thu Mar 13 01:26:53 2003
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 79
==
ne se resolvva qvno. 

nalichieto na validen reverse dns za ip adresa ot kojto idva konekciqta
e edna druga zadyljitelna bira. 

EOT 

-Original Message-
From: Marian Popov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 12:11 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: lug-bg: mail.bg 

Vesseline ama tuka ima neshto drugo.
Az prashtam maila s pop3 ot nas kydeto
ip adresa m ie 213.145.125.130 a sendmaila
mi se namira na server s adres 213.145.125.2
za koito resursen zapis pishe dns.pazardjik.com
no ima i alias mail.pazardjik.com. 

Tova, koeto kazvash ti shte opravi neshtata
samo za men no toia mail server go polzvat
mnogo poveche hora a v takyv sluchai
kakvo shte pravia ? 

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Re: lug-bg: mail.bg

2003-03-13 Thread Ivaylo Toshev
neznam zashto no az vijdam samo chertichki - da ne bi da e morz ;-))

 , 2003-03-13  13:54, svetla :
 vijte puk moiata diskuskia s vuprosnite specove na mail.bg..: 
 
  Zdraveyte,  
  
  ima edin vupros:
  zashto nqmam access do smtp-to vi ot 212.36.16.1 ? 
 
   IP 
 ,   
.  
, 
   .  
 , 
 RFC. 
 
 
  zashto nqmam access do smtp-to vi ot 212.36.16.1 ? 
 
 
  . 
  ., ..
 .   
 , 
  ,
  .
-  
  ?!? 
 
 $ traceroute 212.36.16.1
 traceroute to 212.36.16.1 (212.36.16.1), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
 1  mx-balancer.mail.bg (193.201.172.113)  0.684 ms  0.193 ms  0.162 ms
 2  bol2mail.mail.bg (193.201.172.26)  0.418 ms  0.326 ms  0.322 ms
 3  bol2spnet.spnet.net (212.50.10.237)  1.465 ms  1.375 ms  2.734 ms
 4  * * *
 5  * 
 

  .  
  ,   . 
 .
  ,
 ,   
 .   
  . 
 
 
  pozvoleno e i oshte kak ... 
 
  -  ,  - 

 ,: But that doesn't mean 
 applications will
 pay attention. That's were the majority of the problem lies 
   , DJBDNS (, 
   -  )

.   
   ,   .   
   , 
, 

 .   
   , 
  gethostbyname() () 
 
PTR.  90%   
   . 
   
  ,   
 , . 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 Teodor Georgiev writes: 
 
   
  
  ti pogledni che ITD ne sa mu dali prava vyrhu zonata.
  Posochili sa tehnite nameserveri. 
  
  - Original Message -
  From: Vesselin Kolev [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 12:46 AM
  Subject: Re: lug-bg: mail.bg 
  
  
  Prichinata poradi koiato stava tova, e che imeto na host, koeto se
  predostavia pri ustanoviavaneto na sesiata i zadavneto na EHLO
  posledvano ot ime n host, ne syvpada s in-addr.arpa izvlechenoto
  ime na tvoia mail server. T.e. vmesto mano.pazarjik.com, ti
  izprashtash dns.pazarjik.com. 
 
  Eto zatova na stava. 
 
  Prosto ukazhi v sendmaila si, che pylnoto kvalificirano ime na
  tvoia host e mano.pazardjik.com i vsichko shte byde nared. Ili
  pyk ukazhi v zonata na 125.145.213.in-addr.arpa 
 
  130   PTR  dns.pazardjik.com. 
 
  i taka niama da promeniash imeto zadavano ot sendmail pri
  izprashtane na EHLO. 
 
  Procheti i RFC 821. Interesno e! 
 
 Pozdravi
Vesselin Kolev
  - Original Message -
  From: Marian Popov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 9:17 PM
  Subject: lug-bg: mail.bg 
 
 
   Zdraveite !
  
   Niakoi ima li ideia zashto ne moga da prashtam mail
   kym mail.bg ? Predi imashe problem che ne mi se
   resolve-ashe adresa ot koito prashtam.
   Ama sega se resolve i ne znam kakvo stava.
  
   The original message was received at Wed, 12 Mar 2003 20:02:35 +0200
   from mano.pazardjik.com [213.145.125.130]
  
  - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   (reason: 550 dns.pazardjik.com: Helo command rejected: [BG]
  npenpameme
   moBa nucMo Ha gocmaB4uka cu; [EN] Pl...ICH DOES NOT CONFORM TO RFC-821
   SECTION 3.5 BECAUSE IT COULD NOT BE RESOLVED. See http://mail.bg/mta)
  
  - Transcript of session follows -
   ... while talking to mx1.mail.bg.:
HELO dns.pazardjik.com
550 dns.pazardjik.com: Helo command rejected: [BG] npenpameme moBa
   nucMo Ha gocmaB4uka cu; [EN] Please forward this mail to your ISP; [-]
  YOUR
   SERVER pazardjik.com[213.145.125.2] SENDS WRONG EHLO
  dns.pazardjik.com,
   WHICH DOES NOT CONFORM TO RFC-821 SECTION 3.5 BECAUSE IT COULD NOT BE
   RESOLVED. See http://mail.bg/mta
   ... while talking to mx2.mail.bg.:
HELO dns.pazardjik.com
550 dns.pazardjik.com: Helo command rejected: [BG] npenpameme moBa
   nucMo Ha gocmaB4uka cu; [EN] Please forward this mail to your ISP; [-]
  YOUR
   SERVER pazardjik.com[213.145.125.2] SENDS WRONG EHLO
  dns.pazardjik.com,
   WHICH DOES NOT CONFORM TO RFC-821 SECTION 3.5 BECAUSE IT COULD NOT BE
   RESOLVED. See http://mail.bg/mta
   554 5.0.0 Service unavailable
  
  
  
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Re: lug-bg: mail.bg

2003-03-13 Thread Marian Popov
Zdrasti !

Theodore, moite uvajenia ama greshish.
Cialata zona si e moia kakto pravia taka
i opratnia dns.
Vsichki PTR resursni zapisi sa praveni ot men
a tova che polzvam za dns i name serverite na ITD
si e moe reshenie, no tova ne oznachava che
niamam sobstven dns koito e PRIMARY.


  ti pogledni che ITD ne sa mu dali prava vyrhu zonata.
  Posochili sa tehnite nameserveri. 
  

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Re: lug-bg: RealTek switch

2003-03-13 Thread Qsin
Njakoj 8 portov hub njama li da izleze po-evtino?

Yavor Atanasov

- Original Message -
From: Andrei Boyanov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 6:13 PM
Subject: Re: lug-bg: RealTek switch



 - Original Message -
 From: Teodor Georgiev [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 5:48 PM
 Subject: Re: lug-bg: RealTek switch


 
 
  i kolko struva tova?
 
 

 190 lv v Technopolis




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Re: lug-bg: mail.bg

2003-03-13 Thread svetla
rabotata e tam che ako iskash shte si go pusnesh..no ne e tva celta..celta e 
tia hora da razberat che i po rfc ne sa pravi..kakto sami tvurdiat..smi 
tvurdenieto pokazva che sami se oburkvat i kazvat tova koeto az im 
kazvam..n.. 

svetla writes: 

da,
ti mojesh da si go napravish...i shte mojesh da prashtash..no te samite 
neznaiat kak da go napraviat kato horata -  (imenno za tova ima dosta hora 
s tvoia problem) ...tova e sushtinata na problema!  

Svetlana Pesheva
System Administrator
VMT Design
contact: 098/254246
#48332919  

 

Marian Popov writes:  

md kvo sym tele
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]  

- Original Message -
From: Boyan Krosnov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 1:32 AM
Subject: RE: lug-bg: mail.bg  


Sender domain-a ot MAIL FROM: i imeto ot HELO trqbva da se resolvvat.
=
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dig a dns.pazardjik.com  

;  DiG 9.2.1  dns.pazardjik.com
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NXDOMAIN, id: 37551
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0  

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;dns.pazardjik.com. IN  A  

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
pazardjik.com.  10800   IN  SOA ns.pazardjik.com.
root.pazardjik.com. 2001022401 3600 900 360 14400  

;; Query time: 98 msec
;; SERVER: 127.0.0.1#53(127.0.0.1)
;; WHEN: Thu Mar 13 01:26:53 2003
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 79
==
ne se resolvva qvno.  

nalichieto na validen reverse dns za ip adresa ot kojto idva konekciqta
e edna druga zadyljitelna bira.  

EOT  

-Original Message-
From: Marian Popov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 12:11 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: lug-bg: mail.bg  

Vesseline ama tuka ima neshto drugo.
Az prashtam maila s pop3 ot nas kydeto
ip adresa m ie 213.145.125.130 a sendmaila
mi se namira na server s adres 213.145.125.2
za koito resursen zapis pishe dns.pazardjik.com
no ima i alias mail.pazardjik.com.  

Tova, koeto kazvash ti shte opravi neshtata
samo za men no toia mail server go polzvat
mnogo poveche hora a v takyv sluchai
kakvo shte pravia ?  

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Re: lug-bg: mail.bg

2003-03-13 Thread Marian Popov
Az vijdam vsichko i e na kirilica :)
Daje e mnogo interesno.
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- Original Message - 
From: Ivaylo Toshev [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 1:56 PM
Subject: Re: lug-bg: mail.bg


 neznam zashto no az vijdam samo chertichki - da ne bi da e morz ;-))
 


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Re: lug-bg: mail.bg

2003-03-13 Thread Vesselin Kolev
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Taka

Naistina 212.36.16.1 niama PTR RR. No tova, koeto e napisal supporta na
mail.bg po-dolu me nakara da se razhylcam.

Citiram:


   IP ,   
. 


..

Mozhe za edin host da ima prozivolen broi A RR i za edin IP adres da ima
 proizvolen broi PTR RR.

Za da raboti smtp zashtitata kato na yunacite ot mail.bg e neobhodimo da ima
samo syotvetstvie mezhdu PTR i A zapisi. Sirech, ako az imam IP adres

212.36.16.1 

v zonata na domaina 16.36.212.in-addr.arpa imam napraveni slednite zapisi:

1 PTR  ns.my-domain.dom.
1 PTR  ns.other.domain.dom.

v zonata na domaina my-domain.dom e nuzhno da ima definiciite:

ns  A  212.36.16.1

v zonata na domaina other.domain.dom e nuzhno da ima definiciite:

ns  A  212.36.16.1

Kogato se poiska PTR za 1.16.36.212.in-addr.arpa shte se vyrne edin
ot vsichkite PTR RR. Neka tova da e ns.my-domain.dom. Sled tova shte
se proveri za A RR v zonata na domaina my-domain.dom i shte se vidi,
che ima syotvetstvie.

Defakto DNS servera na pitashtia v sluchaia niama da znae za nalichieto
na drugi PTR zapisi. Prichinata e, che ne se izvlichai vsichki PTR zapisi,
a samo edin ot tiah (ako ne e zadaden rrset pravilo za podredbata, v koiato
shte se vryshtat RR zapisite, shte imame ciklichna sluchaina shema na
servirane na otvorite; rrset ne se izpolzva v BIND 9).

SLEDOVATELNO smtp niama kak da znae, che ima poveche ot edin
PTR RR, zashtoto serverite za imena mu vryshtat sluchaino EDIN ot
napravenite PTR zapisi. Dostatychno e da se podade edin ot napravenite
PTR RR, da se nameri A RR za nego i da se prieme sesiata. Ako ne se
nameri syotvetstvie... togava sesiata se othvyrlia. No inache vsichko e
syvsem zakonno.

, 
   .  , 
 RFC.


A

 Nikoi nikyde
ne e kazal, che ne mozhe ime na hosta da se pishe s glavna bukva.
Spravka... faila named.ca na vseki DNS server. Ne mozhete da go
namerite? Niama problemi pishete dig, sled tova Enter i gotovo:)


Cheteiki tova, ne se uchudvam na tozi fragment ot moi zhurnalen file:

Oct 09 19:06:24.319 info: lame server resolving 'www.mail.bg' (in 'mail.bg'?): 
194.145.63.13#53
Oct 19 10:56:29.178 info: lame server resolving 'na.mail.bg' (in 'mail.bg'?): 
194.145.63.13#53
Nov 06 20:31:02.613 info: lame server resolving 'mail.bg' (in 'mail.bg'?): 
194.145.63.13#53
Nov 24 10:29:06.075 info: lame server resolving 'mail.bg' (in 'mail.bg'?): 
194.145.63.13#53
Nov 28 19:24:42.529 info: lame server resolving 'mail.bg' (in 'mail.bg'?): 
194.145.63.13#53
Nov 29 02:43:18.942 info: lame server resolving 'mail.bg' (in 'mail.bg'?): 
194.145.63.13#53
Dec 11 18:45:40.016 info: lame server resolving 'mail.bg' (in 'mail.bg'?): 
194.145.63.13#53
Dec 12 12:40:31.376 info: lame server resolving 'mail.bg' (in 'mail.bg'?): 
194.145.63.13#53
Dec 20 15:35:54.512 info: lame server resolving 'mail.bg' (in 'mail.bg'?): 
194.145.63.13#53
Dec 24 11:08:16.442 info: lame server resolving 'mail.bg' (in 'mail.bg'?): 
194.145.63.13#53
Dec 28 14:05:42.395 info: lame server resolving 'www.mail.bg' (in 'mail.bg'?): 
194.145.63.13#53
Dec 29 19:57:35.186 info: lame server resolving 'mail.bg' (in 'mail.bg'?): 
194.145.63.13#53
Dec 30 10:30:28.060 info: lame server resolving 'mail.bg' (in 'mail.bg'?): 
194.145.63.13#53
Jan 02 18:38:08.954 info: lame server resolving 'mail.bg' (in 'mail.bg'?): 
194.145.63.13#53
Jan 03 18:41:02.951 info: lame server resolving 'mail.bg' (in 'mail.bg'?): 
194.145.63.13#53
Jan 04 15:46:21.028 info: lame server resolving 'mail.bg' (in 'mail.bg'?): 
194.145.63.13#53
Jan 05 21:47:00.502 info: lame server resolving 'mail.bg' (in 'mail.bg'?): 
194.145.63.13#53
Jan 06 20:51:48.244 info: lame server resolving 'mail.bg' (in 'mail.bg'?): 
194.145.63.13#53
Jan 07 17:32:48.257 info: lame server resolving 'mail.bg' (in 'mail.bg'?): 
194.145.63.13#53
Jan 11 00:28:53.300 info: lame server resolving 'mail.bg' (in 'mail.bg'?): 
194.145.63.13#53
Feb 17 23:19:05.168 info: lame server resolving 'mail.bg' (in 'mail.bg'?): 
193.201.172.114#53
Feb 18 10:10:37.159 info: lame server resolving 'mail.bg' (in 'mail.bg'?): 
193.201.172.114#53
Feb 20 12:33:50.589 info: lame server resolving 'mail.bg' (in 'mail.bg'?): 
193.201.172.114#53
Mar 12 09:59:54.076 info: lame server resolving 'www.mail.bg' (in 'mail.bg'?): 
193.201.172.114#53
Mar 12 23:44:51.756 info: lame server resolving 'mx1.mail.bg' (in 'mail.bg'?): 
193.201.172.114#53


Pozdravi
Vesselin Kolev
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Re: lug-bg: mail.bg

2003-03-13 Thread Teodor Georgiev




- Original Message -
From: Marian Popov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 2:21 PM
Subject: Re: lug-bg: mail.bg


 Zdrasti !

 Theodore, moite uvajenia ama greshish.

V kakvo se systoi greshkata mi? Az mislia, che na bazata na vidianoto sym si
napravil pravilnia izvod

 Cialata zona si e moia kakto pravia taka
 i opratnia dns.

/me se pochesva mnogoznachitelno po vrata.

 Vsichki PTR resursni zapisi sa praveni ot men
 a tova che polzvam za dns i name serverite na ITD
 si e moe reshenie, no tova ne oznachava che
 niamam sobstven dns koito e PRIMARY.

domain:   125.145.213.in-addr.arpa
descr:Reverse delegation for ITD Network
admin-c:  NS806-RIPE
tech-c:   NS806-RIPE
zone-c:   NS806-RIPE
nserver:  ns.itdnet.net
nserver:  ns1.itdnet.net
changed:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20030116
source:   RIPE
I kak imash sobstven PRIMARY DNS vyrhu goreposochenata zona?






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Re: lug-bg: TLS + MTA (malko teoria + praktika)

2003-03-13 Thread Vesselin Kolev
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Oshte malko da prodylzha. 

On Thursday 13 Mar 2003 12:20, Dancho Mitev wrote:
 Zdrasti,
 Temata i na men mi e mnogo interesna.
 Imam edin - dwa wyprosa:

Mezhdu drugoto se usetih, che sega shte zavaliat vyprosi
kak da si samopopdishem certificata. I za da ne otgovoriam
lichno na vseki, dopisvam tova kato prodylzhenie na tozi
thread.

Predi vsichko e nuzhno da imate instaliran openssl. Zhelateno
e posledna versia. Dobre e s neia da ste si compilirali i 
sendmail ili dr. MTA kakvoto polzvate za poddryzhka na
STARTTLS.

Lokiraite programata s 

which openssl

Primerno pri men e v /usr/bin/


Stypka 1. Da si generirame secret key

openssl genrsa 1024  host.key

Taka shte si generirate 1024 bitov kliuch po standart X.509


Stypka 2. Generirane na komplementaren kliuch (public key)

openssl req -new -x509 -nodes -sha1 -days 365 -key host.key  host.cert

Pri generiraneto shte poluchite vyprosi za popylvane na poletata s
danni za pritezhatelia. Primerno az sym dal slednite danni

Country Name (2 letter code) []:BG
State or Province Name (full name) []:Sofia
Locality Name (eg, city) []:Sofia
Organization Name (eg, company) []:LCPE, University of Sofia
Organizational Unit Name (eg, section) []:
Common Name (eg, YOUR name) []:lcpe.uni-sofia.bg
Email Address []:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Stypka 3. Zapazvame informaciata za kliucha v otdelen file za
byrzo izvlichane pri nuzhda:

openssl x509 -noout -fingerprint -text  host.cert  host.info

Stypka 4. Syzdavame faila sys sertifikata:

cat host.cert host.key  host.pem
chmod 400 host.pem

i go pravim chitaem samo za root i nikoi drug.

Sled tova host.pem mozhete da kopirate vyv faila sendmail.pem

cat host.pem  sendmail.pem

ili v apache.pem i t.n

   Mislia, che s tova stana iasno..

 Pozdravi
Vesselin Kolev
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Re: lug-bg: TLS + MTA (malko teoria + praktika)

2003-03-13 Thread Vesselin Kolev
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 Wyzmovno li e da se izpolzwa samopodpisan sertifikat?
 (pone za testowe? - predpolagam che da).
 Wyzmovno li e da se izpolzwa syshtiqt sertifikat ot CA kojto se izpolzwa s
 apache ili trqbwa da se kupuwa otdelen?
 

  Taka... sega se konsultrirah s kolegi i nauchih slednoto.

  Sled kato certificate byde izdaden, toi stava validen za daden host.
A veche dali ti shte go prilagash kym edin ili druga usluga si e tvoia
rabota. Tova oznachava, che impd/SSL i smpt/TLS/SSL mogat da 
sa s edin i syshti certificate.

  Po princip niama certificate za tochno opredelena usluga. Certificate
e vyv format i sledovatelno mozhe da se polzva vyv vsiaka usluga,
koiato poddryzha takyv format (v sluchaia X.509).

   Pozdravi
 Vesselin Kolev
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Re: lug-bg: mail.bg

2003-03-13 Thread Marian Popov
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inetnum:  213.145.125.0 - 213.145.125.255
netname:  PAZARDJIK-COM
descr:Pazardjik.com
country:  BG
admin-c:  MP3009-RIPE
tech-c:   NS806-RIPE
status:   ASSIGNED PA
notify:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mnt-by:   ITD-MNT
changed:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20030116
source:   RIPE

route:213.145.125.0/24
descr:ITD Network - PA Address space
origin:   AS9070
mnt-by:   ITD-MNT
changed:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20021031
source:   RIPE

person:   Marian Popov
address:  12 Todor Hristovich Str., 4400 Pazardjik, Bulgaria
phone:+359 88 388733
e-mail:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
nic-hdl:  MP3009-RIPE
changed:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20030116
source:   RIPE

person:   Nikolaj Semerdjiev
address:  Central Square 1, Plovdiv 4000, Bulgaria
phone:+359 32 620760
e-mail:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
nic-hdl:  NS806-RIPE
changed:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 19990908
source:   RIPE


Da rechem che rabotia v ITD Network
i s Nikolaj Semerdjiev sme kolegi.

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- Original Message - 
From: Teodor Georgiev [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 2:49 PM


 domain:   125.145.213.in-addr.arpa
 descr:Reverse delegation for ITD Network
 admin-c:  NS806-RIPE
 tech-c:   NS806-RIPE
 zone-c:   NS806-RIPE
 nserver:  ns.itdnet.net
 nserver:  ns1.itdnet.net
 changed:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20030116
 source:   RIPE
 I kak imash sobstven PRIMARY DNS vyrhu goreposochenata zona?


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Re: lug-bg: mail.bg

2003-03-13 Thread Vesselin Kolev
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Todore:) mozhe i naistina toi da e zonalen primary, t.e. toi da
opredelia zapisite.

Prosto zonata se transferira ot negovia server za imena vyrhu
tezi na ITD Net. Fact e, che pri nerekursivna zaiavka se 
izvlichan serverite za imena ns.itdnet.net i ns1.indnet.net, no
napraktika NS RR za zapisite pokazvat, che tam figurira i negovia
server za imena

125.145.213.in-addr.arpa. 46316 IN  NS  ns.itdnet.net.
125.145.213.in-addr.arpa. 46316 IN  NS  ns.pazardjik.com.
125.145.213.in-addr.arpa. 46316 IN  NS  ns1.itdnet.net.

T.e. vyzmozhno e da kazva istinata.

Mnogo LIR v BG taka delegirat in-addr.arpa za klienti. Za da ne
si praviat posle truda na podavat molbi za redelegirane v RIPE.


 domain:   125.145.213.in-addr.arpa
 descr:Reverse delegation for ITD Network
 admin-c:  NS806-RIPE
 tech-c:   NS806-RIPE
 zone-c:   NS806-RIPE
 nserver:  ns.itdnet.net
 nserver:  ns1.itdnet.net
 changed:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20030116
 source:   RIPE
 I kak imash sobstven PRIMARY DNS vyrhu goreposochenata zona?

  
   Pozdravi
 Vesselin Kolev
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Re: lug-bg: TLS + MTA (malko teoria + praktika)

2003-03-13 Thread Dancho Mitev
 
   Taka... sega se konsultrirah s kolegi i nauchih slednoto.
 
   Sled kato certificate byde izdaden, toi stava validen za daden host.
 A veche dali ti shte go prilagash kym edin ili druga usluga si e tvoia
 rabota. Tova oznachava, che impd/SSL i smpt/TLS/SSL mogat da 
 sa s edin i syshti certificate.
 
   Po princip niama certificate za tochno opredelena usluga. Certificate
 e vyv format i sledovatelno mozhe da se polzva vyv vsiaka usluga,
 koiato poddryzha takyv format (v sluchaia X.509).
 

Blagodarq za towa che si si naprawil truda da se zainteresuwash. 
Towa naistina beshe wavno,
Pri pyrwa wyzmovnost imash edna bira ot men.
:-)



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Re: lug-bg: mail.bg

2003-03-13 Thread svetla
hmm..:) 

Ivaylo Toshev writes: 

neznam zashto no az vijdam samo chertichki - da ne bi da e morz ;-)) 

На чт, 2003-03-13 в 13:54, svetla записа:
vijte puk moiata diskuskia s vuprosnite specove na mail.bg..:  

 Zdraveyte,  
 
 ima edin vupros:
 zashto nqmam access do smtp-to vi ot 212.36.16.1 ?  

Ïðè îáðà òíèÿò Âè ðåçîëâèíã îòãîâà ðÿò ìíîãî IP à äðåñè, ïî ñòà íäà ðò òîâà 
íåòðÿáâà äà å òà êà . Ïëþñ òîâà ñòå èì ïèñà ëè èìåíà òà ñ ãëà âíè áóêâè, êîåòî
íå å ïðåïîðú÷èòåëíî. Àêî òðÿáâà ùå Âè êà æåì êà êâî íå Âè å íà ðåä, ñïîðåä
RFC.  

 zashto nqmam access do smtp-to vi ot 212.36.16.1 ?  

Çà ùîòî ðóòèíãà å êà ëïà â èëè ïî ïúòÿ èìà òå íÿêà êúâ ôà éúðóîë. Ìîæå
ïðîáëåìúò äà å è â Áîë.áã, ò.ê. ïúòÿ ìèíà âà ïðåç òà ì. Ìîæåòå äà ñå
ñâúðæåòå ñ òÿõ è äà èì çà äà äåòå òîçè âúïðîñ, à êî è âà øèÿ òðåéñ å òà êúâ,
êà òî íà øèÿ. Ñà ìî íå ìîãà äà ðà çáåðà çà ùî òî÷íî îò òà ì ìèíà âà - íÿìà òå ëè
äðóãà âðúçêà ?!?  

$ traceroute 212.36.16.1
traceroute to 212.36.16.1 (212.36.16.1), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
1  mx-balancer.mail.bg (193.201.172.113)  0.684 ms  0.193 ms  0.162 ms
2  bol2mail.mail.bg (193.201.172.26)  0.418 ms  0.326 ms  0.322 ms
3  bol2spnet.spnet.net (212.50.10.237)  1.465 ms  1.375 ms  2.734 ms
4  * * *
5  *  

Àêî è ïðè âà ñ çà ïèðà òà ì çíà ÷è å ÿñíî êúäå ñå ãóáè âðúçêà òà . Èñêà ì ñà ìî
äà äîïúëíÿ, ÷å öÿëà òà íè çîíà ãî âèæäà òà êà . Âñè÷êè ìà øèíè ñòèãà ò äî òà ì.
Ñïîðåä ìåí òîâà å íÿêà êúâ ôà éúðóîë, íî íå ñúì óáåäåí, ÷å òîâà ñïèðà 
ïîùà òà . Àêî èçïîëçâà òå íÿêà êúâ ÍÀÒ ìîæå äà èäâà îò äðóã à äðåñ äî íà ñ.  

 pozvoleno e i oshte kak ...  

Äà - ïîçâîëåíî å, íî ÃÎÐÅÙÎ íå ñå ïðåïîðú÷âà - ùå èçïîëçâà ì öèòà ò îò
òîâà , êîåòî ñòå íè èçïðà òèëè: But that doesn't mean applications will
pay attention. That's were the majority of the problem lies Ùå
äîáà âÿ è òîâà , ÷å íÿêîè âåðñèè íà DJBDNS (äà , ñúãëà ñåí ñúì - íå âñè÷êè)
ñ÷èòà ò ðåçîëâèíãà çà íåâà ëèäåí è íå âðúùà ò íèùî â òà êúâ ñëó÷à é. È òîâà íå
å íèòî ñëó÷à éíî, íèòî å ãðåøêà .  ñëåäâà ùèòå âåðñèè å ïðîìåíåíî, ïðîñòî
çà ðà äè òà êèâà êà òî âà ñ, êîèòî èñêà ò äà ðà áîòÿò íà ãðà íèöèòå íà âúçìîæíîòî
è èçâúí ãðà íèöèòå íà äîïóñòèìîòî. Èíòåðåñíî å äà ñå îòáåëåæè, ÷å
ôóíêöèÿòà gethostbyname() (à êî íå ãðåøà òà êà áåøå) ñúùî à ìà õè÷ íå ñå
èíòåðåñóâà îò äðóãèòå PTR. À 90% îò ïðèëîæåíèÿòà èçïîëçâà ò òúêìî íåÿ. È
íèêîé íå ñå å çà ñèëèë äà ãè îïðà âÿ ñà ìî çà ùîòî âèå ñìÿòà òå, ÷å ïîíåæå å
ðà çðåøåíî, òà òðÿáâà äà ñå ïîëçâà .  

  

 

Teodor Georgiev writes:  

  
 
 ti pogledni che ITD ne sa mu dali prava vyrhu zonata.
 Posochili sa tehnite nameserveri. 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Vesselin Kolev [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 12:46 AM
 Subject: Re: lug-bg: mail.bg 
 
 
 Prichinata poradi koiato stava tova, e che imeto na host, koeto se
 predostavia pri ustanoviavaneto na sesiata i zadavneto na EHLO
 posledvano ot ime n host, ne syvpada s in-addr.arpa izvlechenoto
 ime na tvoia mail server. T.e. vmesto mano.pazarjik.com, ti
 izprashtash dns.pazarjik.com. 

 Eto zatova na stava. 

 Prosto ukazhi v sendmaila si, che pylnoto kvalificirano ime na
 tvoia host e mano.pazardjik.com i vsichko shte byde nared. Ili
 pyk ukazhi v zonata na 125.145.213.in-addr.arpa 

 130   PTR  dns.pazardjik.com. 

 i taka niama da promeniash imeto zadavano ot sendmail pri
 izprashtane na EHLO. 

 Procheti i RFC 821. Interesno e! 

Pozdravi
   Vesselin Kolev
 - Original Message -
 From: Marian Popov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 9:17 PM
 Subject: lug-bg: mail.bg 


  Zdraveite !
 
  Niakoi ima li ideia zashto ne moga da prashtam mail
  kym mail.bg ? Predi imashe problem che ne mi se
  resolve-ashe adresa ot koito prashtam.
  Ama sega se resolve i ne znam kakvo stava.
 
  The original message was received at Wed, 12 Mar 2003 20:02:35 +0200
  from mano.pazardjik.com [213.145.125.130]
 
 - The following addresses had 

Re: lug-bg: OpenPGP Key Party

2003-03-13 Thread svetla
kakva e tazi ideia vse pak?
ako e za bira..stava, no bez key:))) 

Georgi Chorbadzhiyski writes: 

Vesselin Kolev wrote:
OK, sorry... Napravi go kakto iskash. Niamam nishto protiv. Samo deto
si na svetlinni godini ot niakoi istini. 

Ottegliam predlozhenieto si za podobno party. Sled kato ne se razbira
celta i motivite... zashto da go pravim?
huh? Pritesneniata biaha korektni. I az ne bih iskal da si raznasiam
private key-a nasam-natam. 

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Re: lug-bg: OpenPGP Key Party

2003-03-13 Thread Georgi Chorbadzhiyski
svetla wrote:
 kakva e tazi ideia vse pak?
 ako e za bira..stava, no bez key:))) 

http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg15726.html

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lug-bg: iptables MAC

2003-03-13 Thread Marian Popov
Zdraveite pak :)

Opitvam se da filtriram po MAC address s iptables
no niakak si ne se poluchava tova koeto triabva.
Naprimer:

iptables -A INPUT -s 192.168.0.40 -m mac -mac-source 00:04:c0:76:70:80 -j
DROP

Spored men tozi red triabva da spre vsichko
idvashto ot IP 192.168.0.40 s mac address 00:04:c0:76:70:80
kym mashinata.
Sled izpylnenieto na reda obache idva syobshtenie za greshka
koeto se izraziava v slednoto:

iptables v1.2.6a: Couldn't load match
`ac-source':/lib/iptables/libipt_ac-source.so: cannot open shared object
file: No such file or directory

Tova e na Debian 3.0 no syshtia uspeh postigam
i na Slackware 8.1 iavno ima neshto deto ne go znam.

Iskam i oshte neshto da pitam. Vyzmojno li e
s iptables da se spre vsichko idvashto ot MAC adres
edikoi si bez da se ukazva IP adres.
T.e. da rechem da se zabrani pristiganeto na kakvito
i da bilo paketi ot MAC 00:04:c0:76:70:80 kym localnata mashina
ili pyk da se spre FORWARD-a za tozi MAC adres.


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Re: lug-bg: OpenPGP Key Party

2003-03-13 Thread svetla
emi..az lichno shte doida bez key-a..moje bi purvo e nai-dobre da se vidim 
taka
nqamam doverie ina4e ...
kato ideia stava inache! 

Georgi Chorbadzhiyski writes: 

svetla wrote:
kakva e tazi ideia vse pak?
ako e za bira..stava, no bez key:))) 
http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg15726.html 

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Re: lug-bg: iptables MAC

2003-03-13 Thread Nickola Kolev
 Marian wrote:

[ cut ]
  iptables -A INPUT -s 192.168.0.40 -m mac -mac-source 00:04:c0:76:70:80 -j
  DROP
[ cut ]

.

iptables -A INPUT -s 192.168.0.40 -m mac --mac-source 00:04:c0:76:70:80 -j DROP
 ^


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Re: lug-bg: OpenPGP Key Party

2003-03-13 Thread Boris Jordanov
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On Thursday 13 March 2003 17:26, svetla wrote:
 emi..az lichno shte doida bez key-a..moje bi purvo e nai-dobre da se vidim
 taka
 nqamam doverie ina4e ...
 kato ideia stava inache!

Idvaneto ti bez key njama da e mnogo smisleno, ako celta na srestata e key 
sign/exchange. Celta e postigane na doverie. Ne v lichaen aspekt, tova sa 
drug vid sresti.

- -- 
Take care


Boris Jordanov (borj) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ICQ 10751645

PGP-key-fingerprint:--
CB23 8B52 5FBC F36A 1B61  F1ED 2831 E52D AAFF 7B08
- --
Public-key:---
http://borj.freeshell.org/borj.asc
- --
To err is human...
to really foul up requires the root password.
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Re: lug-bg: iptables MAC

2003-03-13 Thread peyo
Marian Popov wrote:

 Zdraveite pak :)

 Opitvam se da filtriram po MAC address s iptables
 no niakak si ne se poluchava tova koeto triabva.
 Naprimer:

 iptables -A INPUT -s 192.168.0.40 -m mac -mac-source 00:04:c0:76:70:80 -j
 DROP

 Spored men tozi red triabva da spre vsichko
 idvashto ot IP 192.168.0.40 s mac address 00:04:c0:76:70:80
 kym mashinata.
 Sled izpylnenieto na reda obache idva syobshtenie za greshka
 koeto se izraziava v slednoto:

 iptables v1.2.6a: Couldn't load match
 `ac-source':/lib/iptables/libipt_ac-source.so: cannot open shared object
 file: No such file or directory

 Tova e na Debian 3.0 no syshtia uspeh postigam
 i na Slackware 8.1 iavno ima neshto deto ne go znam.

 Iskam i oshte neshto da pitam. Vyzmojno li e
 s iptables da se spre vsichko idvashto ot MAC adres
 edikoi si bez da se ukazva IP adres.
 T.e. da rechem da se zabrani pristiganeto na kakvito
 i da bilo paketi ot MAC 00:04:c0:76:70:80 kym localnata mashina
 ili pyk da se spre FORWARD-a za tozi MAC adres.

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Moje.
compiliray si modula za MAC v iptables.Sled tova probvay:))
Vupreki , che sega vijdam edna greshka - pishe se --mac-source s dve -:)
Vsushtnost tova ti e greshkata se okaza:)))


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lug-bg: sateliten ISP

2003-03-13 Thread martin petkov
Zdraveite,
Njakoi ima li informacia za dostavchik, koito predlaga
sateliten internet. Govoria samo za download. Kato
izkliuchim Bitexsat i EuropeOnline.

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RE: lug-bg: sateliten ISP

2003-03-13 Thread Boyan Krosnov
www.neterra.net dostavqt vsqkakvi satelitni resheniq i goreshto ti gi
preporychvam. Obadi im se da gi razpitash kakvo imat na taq tema.

BR,
Boyan

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From: martin petkov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 8:19 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: lug-bg: sateliten ISP


Zdraveite,
Njakoi ima li informacia za dostavchik, koito predlaga
sateliten internet. Govoria samo za download. Kato
izkliuchim Bitexsat i EuropeOnline.

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Re: lug-bg: Sendmail i Debian 3.0 Whoody

2003-03-13 Thread George Danchev
On 13 03 2003 02:25, Marian Popov wrote:
 Zdraveite !

 Neshto izpitvam zatrudnenia s instaliraneto na sendmail
 na debian 3.0i ne znam kak da go opravia.

 Znachi sled apt-get install sendmail paketite se download-naha
 i zapochna configuraciata. Sled kat ootgovorih na vsichki vaprosi
 stana tova:

 Start sendmail now? (Y/n)
 Starting Mail Transport Agent: Sendmailsendmail has not been configured,
 not started.

maj ne e dobre da startirash nesto predi da si configuriral (osven ako e out 
of the box;-) ... Demek Say No ... config Sendmail manually..

 To configure sendmail, type sendmailconfig

e tovamaj e nqkakva fancy config programka,ne sym zaposnat... 

 invoke-rc.d: initscript sendmail, action start failed.
 dpkg: error processing sendmail (--configure):
  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
 Errors were encountered while processing:
  sendmail
 E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)

http://lug-bg.sf.net/debian-book/ 
v primer 8 ima hints kak da se razpravqsh v podobni situations... mogat da se 
dadat i oste primeri razbira se... 

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Re: lug-bg: sateliten ISP

2003-03-13 Thread Nickola Kolev
On Thu, 13 Mar 2003 20:27:11 +0200
Boyan Krosnov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 www.neterra.net dostavqt vsqkakvi satelitni resheniq i goreshto ti gi
 preporychvam. Obadi im se da gi razpitash kakvo imat na taq tema.

 ? ,  
 ... ;]

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Re: lug-bg: OpenPGP Key Party

2003-03-13 Thread svetla
jasno de..
no kolko hora sa naviti?
Boris Jordanov writes: 

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Hash: SHA1 

On Thursday 13 March 2003 17:26, svetla wrote:
emi..az lichno shte doida bez key-a..moje bi purvo e nai-dobre da se vidim
taka
nqamam doverie ina4e ...
kato ideia stava inache!
Idvaneto ti bez key njama da e mnogo smisleno, ako celta na srestata e key 
sign/exchange. Celta e postigane na doverie. Ne v lichaen aspekt, tova sa 
drug vid sresti. 

- -- 
Take care 

Boris Jordanov (borj) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ICQ 10751645 

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- --
Public-key:---
http://borj.freeshell.org/borj.asc
- --
To err is human...
to really foul up requires the root password.
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Re: lug-bg: iptables MAC

2003-03-13 Thread Marian Popov
Naposledyk sym tolkova zaspal che ne znam kyde mi e uma.
Blagodaria ti vse pak a i na Nikola Kolev :))
Zaspala rabota.
Ama toi Chorbadji verno kaza da ne se pishat takiva
neshta na sybujdane ama ...



 Moje.
 compiliray si modula za MAC v iptables.Sled tova probvay:))
 Vupreki , che sega vijdam edna greshka - pishe se --mac-source s dve
-:)
 Vsushtnost tova ti e greshkata se okaza:)))



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Re: lug-bg: Konqueror crash (Was:sateliten ISP)

2003-03-13 Thread Majesty
On Thu, 13 Mar 2003 20:27:11 +0200
Boyan Krosnov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 www.neterra.net dostavqt vsqkakvi satelitni resheniq i goreshto ti gi
 preporychvam. Obadi im se da gi razpitash kakvo imat na taq tema.

  Konqueror 3.1.0  reset-  
.

 BR,
 Boyan

-
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lug-bg: web baziran interface za administrirane na RADIUS server

2003-03-13 Thread martin petkov
Neobhodim mi e web baziran interface za radius server.
Iz inet ima edin dialup admin, koio ne e mnogo
podhodiash. Njakoi ot vas znae li podobna druga ili
pyk si e napisal sobstven takyv. Interface-a mi e
neobhodim za administrirane na pptp clienti. 

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lug-bg: iptraf ISP

2003-03-13 Thread petko dimitroff
  ...
   iptraf   ,  netwatch
...
   ?
  ??


...

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Re: lug-bg: iptraf ISP

2003-03-13 Thread Marian Popov
Ako si na LAN e vyzmojno da vijdash takiva neshta.
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- Original Message -
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 3:01 AM
Subject: lug-bg: iptraf  ISP


   ...
iptraf   ,  netwatch  
 ...
?
  
??

 
 ...

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Re: lug-bg: Konqueror crash (Was:sateliten ISP)

2003-03-13 Thread Jordan Iliikov
On Thursday 13 March 2003 23:18, Majesty wrote:
 On Thu, 13 Mar 2003 20:27:11 +0200

 Boyan Krosnov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  www.neterra.net dostavqt vsqkakvi satelitni resheniq i goreshto ti gi
  preporychvam. Obadi im se da gi razpitash kakvo imat na taq tema.

   Konqueror 3.1.0 
 reset-  .


   

  BR,
  Boyan

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