lug-bg: backup linia za mail server

2005-06-01 Thread Boris N
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 backup . 
mail server
backupa.
 SMTP  sendmail.
 
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Re: lug-bg: backup linia za mail server

2005-06-01 Thread Kiril Todorov
Boris N wrote:
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Re: lug-bg: backup linia za mail server

2005-06-01 Thread Vasil Kolev
 , 2005-06-01  17:47 +0400, Boris N :
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IN  MX  10 mail.example.com.
IN  MX  20 backup-mail.example.com.
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backup-mail IN  A   9.9.9.9

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ip rule add from 9.9.9.9 iif lo table 3
ip route add table 3 default via backup-gateway
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Re: lug-bg: backup linia za mail server

2005-06-01 Thread Dimitar Vasilev
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lug-bg: backup linia za mail server

2005-06-01 Thread Boris N
   ,  CISCO router
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backup ADSL.

mails 
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DNS - Bind
SMTP - Sendmail
POP3 - Pine

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lug-bg: Re[2]: lug-bg: Backup-?

2004-04-26 Thread Georgi Krystev


 Veritas NetBackup - http://www.veritas.com

  server/clients  .



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Re: lug-bg: Re[2]: lug-bg: Backup-?

2004-04-26 Thread Konstantin Angelov

  http://support.veritas.com. Step 1 - NetBackup Products, Step 2
- NetBackup DataCenter. .  
,
.  , o  NetBackup
DataCenter.



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It was Mon, 26 Apr 2004 10:29 when Georgi Krystev said:



  Veritas NetBackup - http://www.veritas.com

   server/clients  .



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Re: lug-bg: Backup-?

2004-04-24 Thread Alexander P. Panov
Georgi Krystev wrote:

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   backup .  
 Windows server backup server   
  win   linux (backup-  2-
 ).server-   
, .Amanda 
linux ,  backup- windows,   share 
samba-.windows,  
,NTFS-
.
  Backula.  
 server  linuxwin/linux (
).


 

http://www.tapeware.com/

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lug-bg: Backup-?

2004-04-23 Thread Georgi Krystev
  ,

   backup .  
 Windows server backup server   
  win   linux (backup-  2-
 ).server-   
, .Amanda 
linux ,  backup- windows,   share 
samba-.windows,  
,NTFS-
.
  Backula.  
 server  linuxwin/linux (
).




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Re: lug-bg: Backup-?

2004-04-23 Thread Konstantin Angelov

Veritas NetBackup - http://www.veritas.com

 server/clients  .


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It was Fri, 23 Apr 2004 15:19 when Georgi Krystev said:

   ,

backup .  
  Windows server backup server   
   win   linux (backup-  2-
  ).server-   
 , .Amanda 
 linux ,  backup- windows,   share 
 samba-.windows,  
 ,NTFS-
 .
   Backula.  
  server  linuxwin/linux (
 ).

 

 
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Re: lug-bg: Backup-?

2004-04-23 Thread Nickola Kolev
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   TapeWare http://www.tapeware.com   3 .
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On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 15:19:42 +0300
Georgi Krystev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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 :  Windows server backup server   
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To err is human, but to screw up totally requires me!

Cheers,
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Re: lug-bg: Backup-?

2004-04-23 Thread raptor
rsync + samba + custom scripts ...
Na men nai trudno mi e bilo opisanieto na towa koeto iskash
da arhiwirash, stoto predpochitam wmesto da arhiwiram cqla
sistema da arhiwiram samo opredeleni configuravionni failowe..
(tam pada golqmoto pisane)
a i po tozi nachin move da se polzwa cvs ili svn za da imash history...


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lug-bg: BackUp na HDD

2003-09-22 Thread Stanislav Radkov
Zdravejte!

Imam edin server Slackware 9 na koito iskam da napravia backup.
Hdd-to sydyrja 3 diala na ext3 i 1 swap.
Iskam da napravia backup na hdd-to bez da spiram server-a.
Vyzmojno li e izobshto da se polu4i tova i ako e vyzmojno niakoj bi li mi dal 
ideia za realizacia na tova neshto.


Predvaritelno Blagodaria!



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Re: lug-bg: backup ustroistwa ?

2003-02-13 Thread raptor
| nqkoi da preporycha nqkakwi backup ustroistwa... da ne e mnogo skypo i nai
| wavnoto nositelq da e s po golqm obem (i po ewtin), estestweno da wyrwi pod
| linux. Tape-owete s kakwi obemi sa ?! stawa wapros da moga da arhiwiram
| celi HDD-ta na edna ili nqkolko kaseti ama da ne sa mnogo
|
| modeli, ceni, kaseti etc..
|
| thanx in advance
| raptor
|
|Àç ïðåäè íÿêîëêî ìåñåöà äîñòà ìèñëèõ äà ñè ðàçðàáîòÿ äîáðà áåêúï ñòðàòåãèÿ
|è ñúùî äîñòèãíàõ äî èçâîäà, ÷å dedicated backup server å íàé-äîáðîòî íåùî,
|êîåòî ìîæå äà ñå íàïðàâè ïî âúïðîñà.  Èìà ìíîãî õèòúð íà÷èí äà ñå ïåñòè
|ñòðàøíî ìíîãî äèñêîâî ïðîñòðàíñòâî êàòî ñå áåêâàò ñàìî ïðîìåíèòå ïî ôàéëîâàòà
|ñèñòåìà è îñâåí äîâà äà èìà ðàçëè÷íè snapshots çà ïðåäè 1 ÷àñ, ïðåäè 4 ÷àñà,
|ïðåäè 1 äåí è ò.í. áåç òîâà äà èçèñêâà ìíîãî ìÿñòî.  Òîâà ñå ïðàâè ñ util-êàòà
|rsync.  Ïî-ïîäðîáíî íà
..

]- qsno, move bi az ne bqh dostatychno tochen i sam zabludil powecheto hora deto 
]replainaha na maila mi, syvalqwam.. Moqt wapros beshe za arhiwirane na GOLEMI OBEMI 
]ot informaciq... da rechem ot porqdyka na stotici GB a ne prosto images na 
]servarite... 
I to arhiv koito ne e zadylvitelno da e byrzo dostypen...
Imam da rechem 3-4 diska po 120GB, koito trqbwa periodichno da se izprazwat  malko po 
malko za da moga da dobqwam nowa informaciq (no ako trqbwa da moga da wyzstanowq towa 
koeto sam mahnal).
Ta pri tozi wariqt ne mi pomagat mnogo CD-ta (ro ili rw) ne samo che sa mnogo no 
izliza skapo.., nito DVD-RW ste e izgodno systo a i pri dwata sluchaq e neudobno da se 
razmotawat desetki ili stotici diskowe..
Ta poneve nqmam predstawa kolko mogat da poemat TAPE-owete za twa i pitam, nadqwah se 
da darvat pone 30-40GB :)
Dryg wariant oswen cd, dvd i tape ne mi e izwesten..

A otnostno arhiwiraneto na serverite mislq da polzwam mkCDrec otnosno arhiwiraneto 
pak na konfiguraciite, sam si naprawil backup script koito gi dyrpa na sys scp 
(keychain-enabled).. (wse oste imam problem s nqkoi ot failowete poradi permission 
problems, koito wse oste nqmam ideq kak da zaobikolq :( )..


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Re: lug-bg: backup ustroistwa ?

2003-02-13 Thread Atanas Ivanov
Ima SDLT i AIT tape-ove po 200-220GB sas skorosti 15GB/h i nagore kogato sa
v biblioteka i autoloader-i samo che cenite sa nad 2000$ na ustroijstvo i
50-100$ na media. IBM i HP predlagat goliam izbor. Sashto ne e zle MO 9.1GB
na Sony - barzi i umereni po cena 1300$ ustrojstvo i 30-ina $ nositel, dosta
po-barzi sa ot DVD-R, Tape-ovete DAT DDS4 s obem 40GB s kompresia i skorost
5GB/h sa sashto dobri kombinirani s podhodiash soft a moje i sas skriptove.
Ceni okolo 1200$ ustroistvo i 30$ nositel. Moje bi tezi ceni i
harakteristiki sa mnogo na posoki no ti gi kazvam naizust. Ti si preceni, az
pod NetWare 3.x i 5.x sam polzval DAT s soft CA- ArcServe (Imashe go i za
Linux), prosto beshe mechta, no e s glezotii koito moje i da ne stesh - Data
Migration, Recovery (boot ot tape pri totalno skapana sistema).
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From: raptor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 5:42 PM
Subject: Re: lug-bg: backup ustroistwa ?


 | nqkoi da preporycha nqkakwi backup ustroistwa... da ne e mnogo skypo i
nai
 | wavnoto nositelq da e s po golqm obem (i po ewtin), estestweno da wyrwi
pod
 | linux. Tape-owete s kakwi obemi sa ?! stawa wapros da moga da arhiwiram
 | celi HDD-ta na edna ili nqkolko kaseti ama da ne sa mnogo
 |
 | modeli, ceni, kaseti etc..
 |
 | thanx in advance
 | raptor
 |
 |Àç ïðåäè íÿêîëêî ìåñåöà äîñòà ìèñëèõ äà ñè ðàçðàáîòÿ äîáðà áåêúï
ñòðàòåãèÿ
 |è ñúùî äîñòèãíàõ äî èçâîäà, ÷å dedicated backup server å íàé-äîáðîòî
íåùî,
 |êîåòî ìîæå äà ñå íàïðàâè ïî âúïðîñà.  Èìà ìíîãî õèòúð íà÷èí äà ñå ïåñòè
 |ñòðàøíî ìíîãî äèñêîâî ïðîñòðàíñòâî êàòî ñå áåêâàò ñàìî ïðîìåíèòå ïî
ôàéëîâàòà
 |ñèñòåìà è îñâåí äîâà äà èìà ðàçëè÷íè snapshots çà ïðåäè 1 ÷àñ, ïðåäè 4
÷àñà,
 |ïðåäè 1 äåí è ò.í. áåç òîâà äà èçèñêâà ìíîãî ìÿñòî.  Òîâà ñå ïðàâè ñ
util-êàòà
 |rsync.  Ïî-ïîäðîáíî íà
 ..

 ]- qsno, move bi az ne bqh dostatychno tochen i sam zabludil powecheto
hora deto replainaha na maila mi, syvalqwam.. Moqt wapros beshe za
arhiwirane na GOLEMI OBEMI ot informaciq... da rechem ot porqdyka na stotici
GB a ne prosto images na servarite...
 I to arhiv koito ne e zadylvitelno da e byrzo dostypen...
 Imam da rechem 3-4 diska po 120GB, koito trqbwa periodichno da se
izprazwat  malko po malko za da moga da dobqwam nowa informaciq (no ako
trqbwa da moga da wyzstanowq towa koeto sam mahnal).
 Ta pri tozi wariqt ne mi pomagat mnogo CD-ta (ro ili rw) ne samo che sa
mnogo no izliza skapo.., nito DVD-RW ste e izgodno systo a i pri dwata
sluchaq e neudobno da se razmotawat desetki ili stotici diskowe..
 Ta poneve nqmam predstawa kolko mogat da poemat TAPE-owete za twa i pitam,
nadqwah se da darvat pone 30-40GB :)
 Dryg wariant oswen cd, dvd i tape ne mi e izwesten..

 A otnostno arhiwiraneto na serverite mislq da polzwam mkCDrec otnosno
arhiwiraneto pak na konfiguraciite, sam si naprawil backup script koito gi
dyrpa na sys scp (keychain-enabled).. (wse oste imam problem s nqkoi ot
failowete poradi permission problems, koito wse oste nqmam ideq kak da
zaobikolq :( )..



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Re: lug-bg: backup ustroistwa ?

2003-02-13 Thread Boris Jordanov
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On Wednesday 12 February 2003 17:03, Andrei Boyanov wrote:

 samo da kaja, che sym syvsem syglasen s tova. spored mene naj-dobria nachin
 za backup e da si ima otdelen backup server sys spomenatite veche ide-ta i
 na nego da se praviat backupite po mrejata.


Naj-dobria nachin e malko dalech ot tova. Pone naj-dobrite nachini koito az 
poznavam. A te vkluchvat SAN i tape libraries. A lentata e dokazano reshenie 
- - goljamo e, moze da bude i dosta burzo (kato 15MB/sec naprimer) i e 
nadezdno.
Ako RAID beshe dostatuchen kato reshenie horata njamashe da prodavay 
backup/archive solutions.

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Re: lug-bg: backup ustroistwa ?

2003-02-13 Thread Boris Jordanov
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On Wednesday 12 February 2003 21:05, Victor Senderov wrote:

 Аз преди няколко месеца доста мислих да си 
разработя добра бекъп стратегия
 и също достигнах до извода, че dedicated backup server е 
най-доброто нещо,

Pravilen izvod, a ako znaesh kolko narod izobsto ne si pravi truda da 
napravjat backup strategia... I posle si bluskat glavite.

 което може да се направи по въпроса.  Има много 
хитър начин да се пести
 страшно много дисково пространство като се 
бекват само промените по
 файловата система и освен дова да има 
различни snapshots за преди 1 час,
 преди 4 часа, преди 1 ден и т.н. без това да 
изисква много място.  Това се
 прави с util-ката rsync.  По-подробно на

 http://www.mikerubel.org/computers/rsync_snapshots/

Kazva se incremental backup, da moze da spesti mnogo mjasto/vreme/trafic. 
Spored realizaciata na backup-a pri podobni backup-i pri restore se nalaga na 
restornesh ot poslednia full backup i sled tova da restore-nesh vsichki 
incremental backups sled nego. Pri njakoi reshenia tazi stupka se izbjagva - 
IBM Tivoli Storage Manager naprimer.

Da, ima i tehniki za backup na nivo chast ot file, zapisvat se ne promenenite 
fajlove, a samo promenenite chasti na tezi fajlove. I drugi nomera razni...


 Има и други хитрини, ако има човек специалнен 
сървър, но се отклонявам от
 въпроса.  За медиите.  Естествено отделен 
сървър изисква голяма инвестиция,
 така че не се оправдава винаги.  Аз например, 
все пак реших да ползвам
 CD-RW.  Носителя е много reliable и е евтин и 
най-важното презаписваем
 и освен това човек има достъп от всеки 
компютър до бековете.  Лентите
 според мен принадлежат на миналото, едва ли са 
толкова reliable като CD-RW
 и освен това са бавни, скъпи, имат само sequential 
достъп, но да не се
 изсилвам и да се произнасям върху нещо, което 
не познавам от първа ръка.

Kapitalna greshka :) Vse oste sa N1 backup media. Lentovite ustrojstva 
obiknoveno realizairat harduerna kompresia 2/1, zatova na lentite obiknoveno 
pishe 2 razmera. naprimer 100/200GB - takava lenta efectivno ste poeme 200GB, 
ako i backup software-to ti poddurza njakakva dobra kompresia ste poeme dosta 
poveche - vizdal sum 6/1. Zavisi i ot dannite razbira se. Otnosno 
nadezdnostta na lentite - ami mnogo sa nadezdni. Otnosno skorostta im - da i 
ne. IBM Ultrium tape lybrary (model 3583 naprimer) mislja poemashe maximum 6 
drajva i ima vutre slotove za ... ne pomnja, njakolko desetki lenti. Edin 
takuv drive moze da mu otneme 2-3 minuti za da mount-ne lenta i da ja 
prenavie + oste izvestno vreme da se pozicionira kudeto trjabva. Posle obache 
pochva da chete/pishe s 15MB/sec. Ta edna takava biblioteka, sus samo 3 
draiva pri paralelen dostup do draivovete ste ti napravi 45MB/sec. Bavno?!? 
Sravni s IDE :)

 CD-R не си струва да се хвърлят всяка седмица на 
боклука, MO дискове и
 zip дискове са по-скъпи от CD-RW и по-маломощни.  С 
DVD-RW нямам опит,
 но очевидно това е бъдещето.

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RE: lug-bg: backup ustroistwa ?

2003-02-13 Thread Boyan Krosnov
ako se pridyrjame kym realnostite w sredniq i dreben biznes, moje da
stignem do edno drugo reshenie - 

~300 USD za 4 diskov ATA RAID kontroler ot 3ware. (ili kakyvto i da e
drug kojto moje da poddyrja hotplug ide)
~100 USD za kachestven hot-plug ata bay za 3 diska
za media za backup se polzvat syvsem obiknovenni ide diskove.
po ~150 USD za 120GB hard disk. takiva ti trqbvat pone 2 za da gi
dyrjish vyv vseki edin moment na razlichno mqsto i da imash 2 versii na
backupa postoqnno.

tazi kombinaciq montirana na nqkoq mashina + dobre razrabotena politika
za syhranenie na backup mediite e dostatychna za powecheto drebni i
sredni biznesi. :)
za skorost na zapisvane i chetene ot mediite ne e nujno da komentirame
mislq :)

BR,
Boyan

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On Wednesday 12 February 2003 17:03, Andrei Boyanov wrote:

 samo da kaja, che sym syvsem syglasen s tova. spored mene naj-dobria 
 nachin za backup e da si ima otdelen backup server sys spomenatite 
 veche ide-ta i na nego da se praviat backupite po mrejata.


Naj-dobria nachin e malko dalech ot tova. Pone naj-dobrite nachini koito
az 
poznavam. A te vkluchvat SAN i tape libraries. A lentata e dokazano
reshenie 
- - goljamo e, moze da bude i dosta burzo (kato 15MB/sec naprimer) i e 
nadezdno.
Ako RAID beshe dostatuchen kato reshenie horata njamashe da prodavay 
backup/archive solutions.

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lug-bg: backup ustroistwa ?

2003-02-12 Thread raptor
hi,

nqkoi da preporycha nqkakwi backup ustroistwa... da ne e mnogo skypo i nai wavnoto 
nositelq da e s po golqm obem (i po ewtin), estestweno da wyrwi pod linux.
Tape-owete s kakwi obemi sa ?! stawa wapros da moga da arhiwiram celi HDD-ta na edna 
ili nqkolko kaseti ama da ne sa mnogo

modeli, ceni, kaseti etc..

thanx in advance
raptor

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Re: lug-bg: backup ustroistwa ?

2003-02-12 Thread Andrei Boyanov
Íà 12 02 2003 16:20, Âàñèë Êîëåâ íàïèñàõòå:
 Íà ñð, 2003-02-12 â 21:12, raptor çàïèñà:
  hi,
 
  nqkoi da preporycha nqkakwi backup ustroistwa... da ne e mnogo skypo i
  nai wavnoto nositelq da e s po golqm obem (i po ewtin), estestweno da
  wyrwi pod linux. Tape-owete s kakwi obemi sa ?! stawa wapros da moga da
  arhiwiram celi HDD-ta na edna ili nqkolko kaseti ama da ne sa mnogo
 
  modeli, ceni, kaseti etc..

 Mozhe da zvuchi grozno, ama kakvo ti prechi da vzemesh 3 ide diska po
 120G, da gi zakachish v edin raid5(taka che imash efektivno 240G) ,i da
 backupvash v/u tqh? ako grumne nqkoj, prosto go smenqsh, i to se
 rebuild-va, a taka ili inache vinagi shte sa ti po-evtini ot kakvoto i
 da bilo drugo ...
 (tova pone e moq skromen opit)


samo da kaja, che sym syvsem syglasen s tova. spored mene naj-dobria nachin za 
backup e da si ima otdelen backup server sys spomenatite veche ide-ta i na 
nego da se praviat backupite po mrejata.

rgds,

andrei




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Re: lug-bg: backup ustroistwa ?

2003-02-12 Thread raptor
|Mozhe da zvuchi grozno, ama kakvo ti prechi da vzemesh 3 ide diska po
|120G, da gi zakachish v edin raid5(taka che imash efektivno 240G) ,i da
|backupvash v/u tqh? ako grumne nqkoj, prosto go smenqsh, i to se
|rebuild-va, a taka ili inache vinagi shte sa ti po-evtini ot kakvoto i
|da bilo drugo ... 
|(tova pone e moq skromen opit)
]- az tochno towa iskam da backupwam, 2-3 x 120GB diska :)... na rotacionnen princip 
]toest po starata informaciq da q arhiwiram primerno na tape-owe ... ama si nqmam i 
]ponqtie kakaw im e razmera na tape-owete...qwno ako sa 4-5GB nqma da mi swyrshat 
]rabota.., no ako sa 40-50GB togawa e ok..

raptor

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RE: lug-bg: backup ustroistwa ?

2003-02-12 Thread Georgi Sinapov
Towa protiwore4i na edin ot principite na backup-a, a imenno - prawi
backup na razli4na po tip mediq ot towa, koeto backup-wa6. Syglasno nego
backup na HDD se prawi na lenta, MO, CD-R(W) i kakwoto drugo se seti6,
no ne i na HDD. 

Towa samo ako iska6 da spazwa6 principi de:)

Best e-gards,
Georgi Sinapov

-Original Message-
From: Andrei Boyanov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 5:03 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: lug-bg: backup ustroistwa ?

 Mozhe da zvuchi grozno, ama kakvo ti prechi da vzemesh 3 ide diska po
 120G, da gi zakachish v edin raid5(taka che imash efektivno 240G) ,i
da
 backupvash v/u tqh? ako grumne nqkoj, prosto go smenqsh, i to se
 rebuild-va, a taka ili inache vinagi shte sa ti po-evtini ot kakvoto i
 da bilo drugo ...
 (tova pone e moq skromen opit)


samo da kaja, che sym syvsem syglasen s tova. spored mene naj-dobria
nachin za 
backup e da si ima otdelen backup server sys spomenatite veche ide-ta i
na 
nego da se praviat backupite po mrejata.

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Re: lug-bg: backup ustroistwa ?

2003-02-12 Thread Victor Senderov
On Wednesday 12 February 2003 20:12, raptor wrote:
 hi,

 nqkoi da preporycha nqkakwi backup ustroistwa... da ne e mnogo skypo i nai
 wavnoto nositelq da e s po golqm obem (i po ewtin), estestweno da wyrwi pod
 linux. Tape-owete s kakwi obemi sa ?! stawa wapros da moga da arhiwiram
 celi HDD-ta na edna ili nqkolko kaseti ama da ne sa mnogo

 modeli, ceni, kaseti etc..

 thanx in advance
 raptor

Àç ïðåäè íÿêîëêî ìåñåöà äîñòà ìèñëèõ äà ñè ðàçðàáîòÿ äîáðà áåêúï ñòðàòåãèÿ
è ñúùî äîñòèãíàõ äî èçâîäà, ÷å dedicated backup server å íàé-äîáðîòî íåùî,
êîåòî ìîæå äà ñå íàïðàâè ïî âúïðîñà.  Èìà ìíîãî õèòúð íà÷èí äà ñå ïåñòè
ñòðàøíî ìíîãî äèñêîâî ïðîñòðàíñòâî êàòî ñå áåêâàò ñàìî ïðîìåíèòå ïî ôàéëîâàòà
ñèñòåìà è îñâåí äîâà äà èìà ðàçëè÷íè snapshots çà ïðåäè 1 ÷àñ, ïðåäè 4 ÷àñà,
ïðåäè 1 äåí è ò.í. áåç òîâà äà èçèñêâà ìíîãî ìÿñòî.  Òîâà ñå ïðàâè ñ util-êàòà
rsync.  Ïî-ïîäðîáíî íà

http://www.mikerubel.org/computers/rsync_snapshots/

Èìà è äðóãè õèòðèíè, àêî èìà ÷îâåê ñïåöèàëíåí ñúðâúð, íî ñå îòêëîíÿâàì îò
âúïðîñà.  Çà ìåäèèòå.  Åñòåñòâåíî îòäåëåí ñúðâúð èçèñêâà ãîëÿìà èíâåñòèöèÿ,
òàêà ÷å íå ñå îïðàâäàâà âèíàãè.  Àç íàïðèìåð, âñå ïàê ðåøèõ äà ïîëçâàì
CD-RW.  Íîñèòåëÿ å ìíîãî reliable è å åâòèí è íàé-âàæíîòî ïðåçàïèñâàåì
è îñâåí òîâà ÷îâåê èìà äîñòúï îò âñåêè êîìïþòúð äî áåêîâåòå.  Ëåíòèòå
ñïîðåä ìåí ïðèíàäëåæàò íà ìèíàëîòî, åäâà ëè ñà òîëêîâà reliable êàòî CD-RW
è îñâåí òîâà ñà áàâíè, ñêúïè, èìàò ñàìî sequential äîñòúï, íî äà íå ñå
èçñèëâàì è äà ñå ïðîèçíàñÿì âúðõó íåùî, êîåòî íå ïîçíàâàì îò ïúðâà ðúêà.
CD-R íå ñè ñòðóâà äà ñå õâúðëÿò âñÿêà ñåäìèöà íà áîêëóêà, MO äèñêîâå è 
zip äèñêîâå ñà ïî-ñêúïè îò CD-RW è ïî-ìàëîìîùíè.  Ñ DVD-RW íÿìàì îïèò,
íî î÷åâèäíî òîâà å áúäåùåòî.

Ïîçäðàâè,
Âèêòîð

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Re: lug-bg: backup (file deletion)

2002-10-04 Thread Victor Senderov

On Thursday 03 October 2002 22:31, Emil Slavov wrote:
   Moge da polzvash FSBackup
 http://www.opennet.ru/dev/fsbackup/ - mnogo polezna ruska scriptova
 sistema , osobeno ako iskash da backvash MySQL ili Postgree. Drug
 variant e  rsync s crontab i malko bash - na tozi URL ima dosta po
 vaprosa s primeri:
 http://www.mikerubel.org/computers/rsync_snapshots/ . Razbira se nai
 dobroto e AMANDA: http://www.amanda.org/ - Sourceforge si praviat
 backups s neia 



Òîçè ëèíê çà rsync å ìíîãî èíòåðåñåí, íî çà ñúæàëåíèå âñå îùå íå ñúì
ðàçáðàë, äàëè ïîâåäåíèåòî, êîåòî îïèñàõ â ïúðâèÿ ñè å-ìåéë å áúã èëè
feature.  Íÿêîé äà èìà èäåè ïî âúïðîñà?


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lug-bg: backup (file deletion)

2002-10-03 Thread Victor Senderov

Çäðàâåéòå,

Îò íÿêîëêî äåíà ñå îïèòâàì äà ïîäêàðàì tar äà ðàáîòè ñ incremental backups, 
òúé êàòî èñêàì äà çàïî÷íà äà ïðàâÿ backups íà ñèñòåìàòà ñè ïî-÷åñòî, à íÿìàì 
âðåìå (ïúê è ìÿñòî) äà ïðàâÿ âñåêè ïúò full backup. Ñáëúñêàõ ñå îáà÷å ñ íÿêîè 
ñòðàííîñòè. Ïúðâî, áèõ èñêàë äà ïîïèòàì ãðóïàòà, äàëè ñëåäíîòî å íåáúãàâî 
ïîâåäåíèå. Èçïîëçâàì îïöèÿòà --listed-incremental íà GNU-tar è ïðîáëåìúò ñå 
ïîëó÷àâà, êîãàòî èçòðèÿ äèðåêòîðèÿ ñëåä ïúëåí backup è ñëåä òîâà íàïðàâÿ 
incremental òàêúâ. Íàïðàâî êàêâî ìè äàâà øåëúò:

[KeuH@wh11-338 KeuH]$ mkdir temp
[KeuH@wh11-338 KeuH]$ cd temp
[KeuH@wh11-338 temp]$ touch one
[KeuH@wh11-338 temp]$ mkdir two
[KeuH@wh11-338 temp]$ cd two
[KeuH@wh11-338 two]$ touch three
[KeuH@wh11-338 two]$ cd ../..
[KeuH@wh11-338 KeuH]$ tar cvf archive0.tar --listed-incremental=snap temp/
tar: temp/two: Directory is new
temp/
temp/two/
temp/one
temp/two/three
[KeuH@wh11-338 KeuH]$ cd temp/
[KeuH@wh11-338 temp]$ rm -rf two/
[KeuH@wh11-338 temp]$ cd ..
[KeuH@wh11-338 KeuH]$ tar cvf archive1.tar --listed-incremental=snap temp/
temp/
[KeuH@wh11-338 KeuH]$ rm -rf temp/
[KeuH@wh11-338 KeuH]$ tar xvf archive0.tar --listed-incremental=snap
temp/
temp/two/
temp/one
temp/two/three
[KeuH@wh11-338 KeuH]$ tar xvf archive1.tar --listed-incremental=snap
temp/
tar: Deleting `temp/two'
tar: temp/two: Cannot remove: Is a directory
tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[KeuH@wh11-338 KeuH]$

Èçâèíÿâàì ñå ïðåäâàðèòåëíî çà äúëãèÿ paste, íî çà ñúæàëåíèå íå ñúì îò òèÿ, 
êîèòî íà åäèí ðåä óñïÿâàò äà ïðåêîìïèëèðàò ÿäðîòî, èçïòðàòÿò ñúîáùåíèå ïî 
åëåêòðîííà ïîùà è äà íàïèøàò ìàëêà ïðîãðàìà íà perl :). Òà ïðîáëåìúò å, ÷å 
äèðåêòîðèÿòà two íå ñå èçòðè ïðè âúçñòàíîâÿâàíåòî é îò àðõèâà. Ò.å. 
âúçñòàíîâè ñå ïðè ïúëíèÿ àðõèâ è ïîñëå incremental àðõèâúò íå óñïÿ äà ñå 
ñïðàâè ñ íåéíîòî åëèìèíèðàíå. È ôàéëîâåòå âúòðå äîðè ñà ñå çàïàçèëè (ls 
temp/two/ äàâà: three).

Ìîæå ëè íÿêîé äà ìè ïðåïîðú÷à ñòðàòåãèÿ çà ïðàâåíå íà backups è êúäå ìîãà äà 
RTFD :). Çàùîòî â info tar èíôîðìàöèÿòà å ìíîãî íåÿñíà, à ïúê íà Linux 
Documentation Project èìà íÿêàêâî backup HOWTO, êîåòî ïðåïîðú÷âà èçïîëçâàíåòî 
íà íÿêàêâè ñêðèïòîâå è tom_íåùî_ñè_ëèíóêñ, êîåòî äúëáîêî ìå ñúìíÿâà, ÷å ùå 
îñòàâè äðóãè îïåðàöèîííè ñèñòåìè ðàáîòåùè ñëåä åäèí restore. Àç äîñòà ñå 
ïîìú÷èõ ñàì ñ òèÿ ðàáîòè, íî çà ìîÿ ãîëÿìà èçíåíàäà óñïÿõ äà èçòðèÿ home 
äèðåêòîðèÿòà ïðè åäèí ðú÷åí restore. Êàê ñòàíà íå ìè å ÿñíî, ò.ê. êàêòî ãîðå 
ñúì ïîêàçàë ïðè ëàáîðíè óñëîâèÿ íå ñå ïîëó÷àâà. Áÿõ ñè íàïðàâèë backup íà / 
è íàé-âåðîÿòíî òðÿáâàøå äà èçïîëçâàì îïöèÿòà --one-file-system ïðè 
ðàçàðõèâèðàíåòî. Íà âñè÷êîòî îòãîðå ñå ïîÿâÿâà è òîâà ïîâåäåíèå, êîåòî íå 
ìèñëÿ, ÷å å ñúâñåì feature. Ñ äðóãè äóìè: àêî íÿêîé å èçìèñëèë êàê ñå ïðàâè 
òîâà íåùî incremental backups è æåëàå äà ñïîäåëè, ùå ñúì ìíîãî áëàãîäàðåí.

Ïîçäðàâè,
Âèêòîð

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Re: lug-bg: backup (file deletion)

2002-10-03 Thread Emil Slavov

  Moge da polzvash FSBackup 
http://www.opennet.ru/dev/fsbackup/ - mnogo polezna ruska scriptova 
sistema , osobeno ako iskash da backvash MySQL ili Postgree. Drug 
variant e  rsync s crontab i malko bash - na tozi URL ima dosta po 
vaprosa s primeri: 
http://www.mikerubel.org/computers/rsync_snapshots/ . Razbira se nai 
dobroto e AMANDA: http://www.amanda.org/ - Sourceforge si praviat 
backups s neia  

 Çäðàâåéòå,
 
 Îò íÿêîëêî äåíà ñå îïèòâàì äà ïîäêàðàì tar äà ðàáîòè ñ incremental 
backups, 
 òúé êàòî èñêàì äà çàïî÷íà äà ïðàâÿ backups íà ñèñòåìàòà ñè ïî-÷åñòî, 
à íÿìàì 
 âðåìå (ïúê è ìÿñòî) äà ïðàâÿ âñåêè ïúò full backup. Ñáëúñêàõ ñå îáà÷å 
ñ íÿêîè 
 ñòðàííîñòè. Ïúðâî, áèõ èñêàë äà ïîïèòàì ãðóïàòà, äàëè ñëåäíîòî 
å íåáúãàâî 
 ïîâåäåíèå. Èçïîëçâàì îïöèÿòà --listed-incremental íà GNU-tar è 
ïðîáëåìúò ñå 
 ïîëó÷àâà, êîãàòî èçòðèÿ äèðåêòîðèÿ ñëåä ïúëåí backup è ñëåä òîâà 
íàïðàâÿ 
 incremental òàêúâ. Íàïðàâî êàêâî ìè äàâà øåëúò:
 
 [KeuH@wh11-338 KeuH]$ mkdir temp
 [KeuH@wh11-338 KeuH]$ cd temp
 [KeuH@wh11-338 temp]$ touch one
 [KeuH@wh11-338 temp]$ mkdir two
 [KeuH@wh11-338 temp]$ cd two
 [KeuH@wh11-338 two]$ touch three
 [KeuH@wh11-338 two]$ cd ../..
 [KeuH@wh11-338 KeuH]$ tar cvf archive0.tar --listed-incremental=snap 
temp/
 tar: temp/two: Directory is new
 temp/
 temp/two/
 temp/one
 temp/two/three
 [KeuH@wh11-338 KeuH]$ cd temp/
 [KeuH@wh11-338 temp]$ rm -rf two/
 [KeuH@wh11-338 temp]$ cd ..
 [KeuH@wh11-338 KeuH]$ tar cvf archive1.tar --listed-incremental=snap 
temp/
 temp/
 [KeuH@wh11-338 KeuH]$ rm -rf temp/
 [KeuH@wh11-338 KeuH]$ tar xvf archive0.tar --listed-incremental=snap
 temp/
 temp/two/
 temp/one
 temp/two/three
 [KeuH@wh11-338 KeuH]$ tar xvf archive1.tar --listed-incremental=snap
 temp/
 tar: Deleting `temp/two'
 tar: temp/two: Cannot remove: Is a directory
 tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
 [KeuH@wh11-338 KeuH]$
 
 Èçâèíÿâàì ñå ïðåäâàðèòåëíî çà äúëãèÿ paste, íî çà ñúæàëåíèå íå ñúì îò 
òèÿ, 
 êîèòî íà åäèí ðåä óñïÿâàò äà ïðåêîìïèëèðàò ÿäðîòî, èçïòðàòÿò 
ñúîáùåíèå ïî 
 åëåêòðîííà ïîùà è äà íàïèøàò ìàëêà ïðîãðàìà íà perl :). Òà ïðîáëåìúò 
å, ÷å 
 äèðåêòîðèÿòà two íå ñå èçòðè ïðè âúçñòàíîâÿâàíåòî é îò àðõèâà. Ò.å. 
 âúçñòàíîâè ñå ïðè ïúëíèÿ àðõèâ è ïîñëå incremental àðõèâúò íå óñïÿ äà 
ñå 
 ñïðàâè ñ íåéíîòî åëèìèíèðàíå. È ôàéëîâåòå âúòðå äîðè ñà ñå çàïàçèëè 
(ls 
 temp/two/ äàâà: three).
 
 Ìîæå ëè íÿêîé äà ìè ïðåïîðú÷à ñòðàòåãèÿ çà ïðàâåíå íà backups è êúäå 
ìîãà äà 
 RTFD :). Çàùîòî â info tar èíôîðìàöèÿòà å ìíîãî íåÿñíà, à ïúê íà 
Linux 
 Documentation Project èìà íÿêàêâî backup HOWTO, êîåòî ïðåïîðú÷âà 
èçïîëçâàíåòî 
 íà íÿêàêâè ñêðèïòîâå è tom_íåùî_ñè_ëèíóêñ, êîåòî äúëáîêî ìå ñúìíÿâà, 
÷å ùå 
 îñòàâè äðóãè îïåðàöèîííè ñèñòåìè ðàáîòåùè ñëåä åäèí restore. Àç äîñòà 
ñå 
 ïîìú÷èõ ñàì ñ òèÿ ðàáîòè, íî çà ìîÿ ãîëÿìà èçíåíàäà óñïÿõ äà èçòðèÿ 
home 
 äèðåêòîðèÿòà ïðè åäèí ðú÷åí restore. Êàê ñòàíà íå ìè å ÿñíî, ò.ê. 
êàêòî ãîðå 
 ñúì ïîêàçàë ïðè ëàáîðíè óñëîâèÿ íå ñå ïîëó÷àâà. Áÿõ ñè íàïðàâèë 
backup íà / 
 è íàé-âåðîÿòíî òðÿáâàøå äà èçïîëçâàì îïöèÿòà --one-file-system ïðè 
 ðàçàðõèâèðàíåòî. Íà âñè÷êîòî îòãîðå ñå ïîÿâÿâà è òîâà ïîâåäåíèå, 
êîåòî íå 
 ìèñëÿ, ÷å å ñúâñåì feature. Ñ äðóãè äóìè: àêî íÿêîé å èçìèñëèë êàê ñå 
ïðàâè 
 òîâà íåùî incremental backups è æåëàå äà ñïîäåëè, ùå ñúì ìíîãî 
áëàãîäàðåí.
 
 Ïîçäðàâè,
 Âèêòîð
 


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lug-bg: Backup na win2000 ot Linux

2001-07-05 Thread Oleg Shishmanov

Zdravejte !
Interesuvam se ima li na4in da se pravi backup na win2000 ot server,
kojto e na linux. Stava vupros NE za ru4en proces, a za sistema, kojato
si dejstva napulno avtonomno. Moje da vklju4va i hardwarni, i softwarni
reshenija, kato cenata ne e ot sushtestveno zna4enie.

Oleg
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Re: lug-bg: Backup na win2000 ot Linux

2001-07-05 Thread Vasil Kolev

Vizh amanda ( www.amanda.org ), mislq che mozhe i takiva magii da pravi
(specialno vizh chastta za samba )

On Thu, 5 Jul 2001, Oleg Shishmanov wrote:

 Zdravejte !
 Interesuvam se ima li na4in da se pravi backup na win2000 ot server,
 kojto e na linux. Stava vupros NE za ru4en proces, a za sistema, kojato
 si dejstva napulno avtonomno. Moje da vklju4va i hardwarni, i softwarni
 reshenija, kato cenata ne e ot sushtestveno zna4enie.

 Oleg
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Re: lug-bg: Backup na win2000 ot Linux

2001-07-05 Thread Ivaylo Toshev

Èìàø íÿêîëêî ðåøåíèÿ, êîèòî ìåæäó äðóãîòî AMANDA èäâà è ñ RedHat 7.1
AMANDA
ARKEIA
×åòâúðòúê 05 07, 2001 16:29 , Oleg Shishmanov íàïèñàõòå:
 Zdravejte !
 Interesuvam se ima li na4in da se pravi backup na win2000 ot server,
 kojto e na linux. Stava vupros NE za ru4en proces, a za sistema, kojato
 si dejstva napulno avtonomno. Moje da vklju4va i hardwarni, i softwarni
 reshenija, kato cenata ne e ot sushtestveno zna4enie.

 Oleg
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Re: lug-bg: Backup na win2000 ot Linux

2001-07-05 Thread Antoby

 Zdravejte !
 Interesuvam se ima li na4in da se pravi backup na win2000 ot server,
 kojto e na linux. Stava vupros NE za ru4en proces, a za sistema, kojato
 si dejstva napulno avtonomno. Moje da vklju4va i hardwarni, i softwarni
 reshenija, kato cenata ne e ot sushtestveno zna4enie.

Towa koeto mi hrumwa na men e che winagi mojesh da prawish backup na raw device i da 
go kompresirash, wyzstanowqwaneto posle e syshto tolkowa lesno. Wsichko towa kato se 
sloji w crontab stawa awtomatichno :). Ne znam kakwo razbirash pod awtonomno obache, 
wse pak operaciqta e zawisima ot zahranwaneto na komputyra, nadejdnostta na diska i tn 
mnogo faktori.


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Re: lug-bg: Backup na win2000 ot Linux

2001-07-05 Thread Antoby

hm, ne sym doprochel neshto, az si pomislih lokalno da si naprawish backup

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