Re: Re: lug-bg: HDD - heeelp
On 18 01 2003 12:51, petko dimitroff wrote: > zdravei georgi, > blagodarya za pismoto koeto si mi drasnal å ïîíÿêîãà ÷îâåê ñúæàëÿâà çà òîâà ÷å ñè å èçõàáèë äóìèòå ... > zanachi sledvaiki stypkite v tazi statiya az sym si napraval tezi failove > koito mi pozvolyavat da startiram linux ili win 98 tova obache e otdelno ot > drugata mi OS. > LILO ne sym instaliral, a sega specifichnoto: > pri pyrvonachalno zarezhdane dokato imah samo edna OS tya si se beshe > nastanila v MBR i si cheteshe ottam. Kogato napravih failovete (loadlin) > pri pyrvonachalno zarezhdane mashinata zapochna da izdava specifichen zvuk > (tozi zvuk se poyavyavashe i predi kogato MBR se prenapisvashe ot razni > remontni instrumenti) zatova si mislya, che toi pokazva, che opitvaiki se > da chete ot MBR i ne uspyavaiki da si nameri informaciyata koyato mu e > neobhodima kompyuteryt prosto preminava natatyk i sled tova dava opciite za êîÿ ÷àñò íà "kompyuteryt" ïðåìèíàâà íàòàòúê ... ùî íå ñè çà÷èñòèø mbr-a è äà ïðîáàø äà áóóòíåø *ñàìî* îò õàðäà, à... > zarezhdane... àâå òè ÷å èìàø íÿêàêúâ çàïèñ çà íà÷àëíî çàðåæäàíå (mbr) íà õàðäà èìàø (àêî áóóòâàø îò íåãî äå), èíà÷å íàïðàâî ñå êàíäèäàòèðàé çà íîáåëîâà íàãðàäà ïî èíôîðìàòèêà èëè computer science âñå îùå íÿìà, àìà ïî ôèçèêà ìàé ùå ìèíåø ñ òîÿ íîìåð ñ áóóòâàíåòî îò hdd áåç mbr íà x86 ìàøèíà;-)... À òîçè çâóê äåòî òè ñå ïîÿâÿâà âåðîÿòíî å îò âêëþ÷åíà îïöèÿ íà BIOS-a "Virus Protection" èëè ïîäîáíà... ò.å íÿêîé ñå îïèòâà äà ïðåíàïèñâà ñòàðèÿ òè çàïèñ â mbr è BIOS òå ïðåäóïðåæäàâà ... (íÿêîé win viruses ñå îïèòâàò äà ïèøàò òàì, òà çà òîâà) >A kakto predpolagam mnogo dobre znaesh, che na nikoya OS ne i > e zhizneno neobhodimo da pishe v MBR za da mozhe da zaredi àâå åé ... ùî íå ÷åòåø ïúðâî êâî ñå ïèøå, à ? P.S. èçâèíÿâàì ñå çà òîëêîâà äèðåêòíèÿ ïîäõîä, íî ïîíÿêîãà "êîìïåòåíòíàòà" íåêîìïåòåíòíîñò ìå ïðèíóæäàâà ... -- Greets, fr33zb1 constantly syncing 'Deb ee n' GNU/Linuz sID. no 'destroyed toyz' being met yet, but... in case of any, Santa Claus fixes them for sure. A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
Re: Re: lug-bg: HDD - heeelp
zdravei georgi, blagodarya za pismoto koeto si mi drasnal zanachi sledvaiki stypkite v tazi statiya az sym si napraval tezi failove koito mi pozvolyavat da startiram linux ili win 98 tova obache e otdelno ot drugata mi OS. LILO ne sym instaliral, a sega specifichnoto: pri pyrvonachalno zarezhdane dokato imah samo edna OS tya si se beshe nastanila v MBR i si cheteshe ottam. Kogato napravih failovete (loadlin) pri pyrvonachalno zarezhdane mashinata zapochna da izdava specifichen zvuk (tozi zvuk se poyavyavashe i predi kogato MBR se prenapisvashe ot razni remontni instrumenti) zatova si mislya, che toi pokazva, che opitvaiki se da chete ot MBR i ne uspyavaiki da si nameri informaciyata koyato mu e neobhodima kompyuteryt prosto preminava natatyk i sled tova dava opciite za zarezhdane... A kakto predpolagam mnogo dobre znaesh, che na nikoya OS ne i e zhizneno neobhodimo da pishe v MBR za da mozhe da zaredi s uvazhenie Petko - http://kino.GBG.bg - ÊÈÍÎ ÏÐÅÌÈÅÐÈ | ÏÐÎÃÐÀÌÀÒÀ | ÍÎÂÈÍÈ | DVD È ÂÈÄÅÎ | ÊÈÍÎ ÈÑÒÎÐÈß A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
Re: lug-bg: HDD - heeelp
Çäðàñòè Ïåòêî, On 17 01 2003 17:13, petko dimitroff wrote: > znachi tryabva da si opishesh dyalovete vyv faila > /etc/fstab > tam si se vizhda kak tochno da go napravish... çà ñúæàëåíèå íå ñè ïðàâ ;-) . Ïðåäíàçíà÷åíèåòî íà ôàéëà /etc/fstab âúâ âñè÷êè Unixes îò 4.0BSD íàñàì å åäíî è ñúùî - man fstab;-). Ïèòàùèÿ ÿâíî èìà ïðîáëåì ñ öåëîñòòà èëè ôîðìàòà íà ôàéëîâèòå ñèñòåìè (êîèòî èñêà äà ìîíòèðà ðú÷íî ñ mount èëè àâòîìàòè÷íî ïðè çàðåæäàíå íà ñèñòåìàòà, e.g. îò fstab) êîèòî ëåæàò â äÿëîâåòå êîèòî òîé å çàäåëèë. Êàêâî å ïðàâèë ñ òÿõ (äÿëîâåòå, e.g. partition table, è filesystems) ñàìî òîé ñè çíàå. Àêî ãè å ïîâðåäèë ïî íÿêàêúâ íà÷èí áúðíèêàíåòî ïî fstab íå ìîæå äà ìó ïîìîãíå. > a za MBR ne znam dali mozhesh da go izchistish , no v > http://www.linux-bg.org imashe edna statiya kak da si napravish boot > menager pod win98 i po tozi nachin izbyagvash MBR, t.e. nito edna OS en > pishe tam... òîâà ñúùî å íåâÿðíî. Âèíàãè (ïîíå íà x86 ìàøèíè, à áè òðÿáâàëî è ïðè äðóãèòå àðõèòåêòóðè äà å òàêà, îñâåí àêî íå ñå ðåøàâà ïî äðóã íà÷èí íà BIOS íèâî, à ïðè íÿêîè àðõèòåêòóðè òîé å êàòî öÿëà îïåðàöèîííà ñèñòåìà;-) ïúðâîòî íåùî êîåòî ñå ïðî÷èòà è ñòàðòèðà îò äèñêà å master boot record-a (ïúðâèòå äà ðå÷åì 512 bytes). Òàì å íàïðàâåí çàïèñ îò boot manager èëè boot loader (ðàçëèêàòà ìåæäó êîèòî âÿðâàì çíàåø) , (òàì ñúùî å çàïèñàíà è partition table) êîèòî äà ãî èãðàå êàòî äèñïå÷åð çà ïðåíàñî÷âàíå çà ÷åòåíå íà äðóãè boot records (íà òîçè ôèçè÷åñêè äèñê èëè äðóã), e.g. manager èëè çàðåæäàíå íà äàäåíà ÿäðî íà äàäåíà ÎÑ, e.g. loader. Ò.å. ñ ïðîãðàìè êàòî LILO è GRUB ïðàâèø çàïèñè â (master) boot records (òå ñà õåì manager õåì loaders, boot magic íàïðèìåð å ñàìî manager, ùîòî íå ìîæå äà çàðåäè íèêîÿ ÎÑ áåç ñúîòâåòíèÿ loader). MBR Ìîæå äà ñå ÷èñòè ïî ìíîãî íà÷èíè êàòî íàé-ëåñíèÿ å ñ ïðåçàïèñ (ìîæå è ñ dd, íî òðÿáâà äà ñå âíèìàâà). LILO ìîæå äà âúçñòàíîâè ñòàðîòî ìó ñúñòîÿíèå (íå ñàìî íà MBR-a, à è íà êîèòî è äà å boot record) ñ lilo -u (mam lilo). -- Greets, fr33zb1 constantly syncing 'Deb ee n' GNU/Linuz sID. no 'destroyed toyz' being met yet, but... in case of any, Santa Claus fixes them for sure. A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
Re: lug-bg: HDD - heeelp
znachi tryabva da si opishesh dyalovete vyv faila /etc/fstab tam si se vizhda kak tochno da go napravish... a za MBR ne znam dali mozhesh da go izchistish , no v http://www.linux-bg.org imashe edna statiya kak da si napravish boot menager pod win98 i po tozi nachin izbyagvash MBR, t.e. nito edna OS en pishe tam... tova moga da ti kazha , ako ti e ot pomosht...:) > Îðèãèíàëíî ïèñìî >Îò: Plamen [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Îòíîñíî: lug-bg: HDD - heeelp >Äî: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Èçïðàòåíî íà: 2003-01-17 16:17:56.0 >-- > > - http://kino.GBG.bg - ÊÈÍÎ ÏÐÅÌÈÅÐÈ | ÏÐÎÃÐÀÌÀÒÀ | ÍÎÂÈÍÈ | DVD È ÂÈÄÅÎ | ÊÈÍÎ ÈÑÒÎÐÈß A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
Re: lug-bg: HDD - heeelp
ami kak to4no napravi /dev/hda5 da e fat32 i posle kak to4no go montira6 ? ne stava li taka "fdisk /dev/hda" - i posle sas "m" 6te vidi6 razli4nite komandi sas "t" moje6 da smeni6 label-a mu na kakuvto iska6 da stane, mosle "w". sled tova sas "mkfs" ili pak "mke2fs -j /dev/hda5" za da stane ext3 a za pove4e info "man mkfs". posle ako mount-va6 ne linux-ki dql "mount -t vfat /hdaXX /mnt/hdaXX" primerno ili tam kakuvto e dqla. Mislq 4e ne si napravil failova sistema na /dev/hda5 ??? - http://mail.e-card.bg A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
lug-bg: HDD - heeelp
Zdrawejte Znachi Po-dolu e kartinkata s HDD. 1. Wsichko li e nared s nego? Gledam che pri cfdisk niama hda2 ? Nadiawam se che ne sam naprawil niakoia belia!!! 2. hda5 beshe ntfs - tam beshe Win2000Pro i go naprafih kakto se wigda fat32. Pusnah instalacionnia disk na redhat8.0 da widia i ot tam diska ot tam da go formatiram/ne uspiah/ gledam che toi e fat 32 a drugite vfat?!!! Koito i da e Linux da pusna hda5 ne se montirwa. Dawa greshka. To oswen fdisk ne triabwa li da se formatira po niakakaw nachin sled towa? 3.Moga li po niakakaw nachin ot Linux-a da izchistia MBR? Triabwa da go izchistia. fdisk Disk /dev/hda: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 4865 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes Device BootStart EndBlocks Id System /dev/hda1 * 1 638 5124703+ b Win95 FAT32 /dev/hda2 639 4865 33953377+ f Win95 Ext'd (LBA) /dev/hda5 639 1859 9807651b Win95 FAT32 /dev/hda6 1860 3034 9438156b Win95 FAT32 /dev/hda7 3035 3569 4297356b Win95 FAT32 /dev/hda8 3570 4278 5695011 83 Linux /dev/hda9 4279 4344530113+ 82 Linux swap /dev/hda10 4345 4865 4184901 83 Linux cfdisk 2.11n Disk Drive: /dev/hda Size: 40020664320 bytes Heads: 255 Sectors per Track: 63 Cylinders: 4865 NameFlags Part Type FS Type[Label] Size (MB) - hda1BootPrimary Win95 FAT32 5247.73 hda5Logical Win95 FAT32[^A] 10043.07 hda6Logical Win95 FAT32 9664.71 hda7Logical Win95 FAT32 4400.53 hda8Logical Linux ext3 [/] 5831.73 hda9Logical Linux swap 542.87 hda10 Logical Linux ext3 [/1] 4285.38 Blagodaria na wsichki predwaritelno.
