lug-bg: IDE-RAID
Nqkoi da e polzwal RAID-IDE s dwa diska w MIRROR revim (ne si spomqnam koi nomer RAID beshe towa) taka che ako se skape ediniq da si prodylvi da raboti... towa koeto me interesuwa : - Kakwo e tochnoto ime na kontrolera ako wi e haresal - kolko struwa orientirowachno - ako move da mi opishe kade kakwo trqbwa da se konfigurira (marzi me da cheta) za hardware-RAID-a - koi linux polzwa thanx [EMAIL PROTECTED] A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
Re: lug-bg: IDE-RAID
Ot skromniq si opit s hardware raid moga da kazha slednoto: purvo, trqbva ti RAID1 Vtoro, ima IDE varianti, koito vurvqt vgradeni v nqkoi novi duna, i mozhesh da gi podkarash pod linux treto, po princip cenata ne e svruh visoka, sravnena sus samiq kontroler(scsi ili ide),ako ne stava vupros za neshto ot mnogo visok server class (sus nvram, baterii na cache pametta i t.n.) linux-a kojto polzvash ne trqbva da ima znachenie, to si e do kernela i kvo mu kompilirash i s kvo go patchnesh i sum chuval, che kato ideq mnogo hvalat 3ware raid controlerite, koito sa s IDE diskove, no az lichno sum si igral samo s Dell Percraid 2/i (ili 3/i beshe), kojto polzva AACRAID drivera ( poqvi se v 2.4.18, dotogava beshe na patch otdelno ot samiq kernel), no toj si e sus scsi diskove i maj baq skup. On Sun, 14 Jul 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > Nqkoi da e polzwal RAID-IDE s dwa diska w MIRROR revim (ne si spomqnam koi nomer >RAID beshe towa) > taka che ako se skape ediniq da si prodylvi da raboti... towa > koeto me interesuwa : > > - Kakwo e tochnoto ime na kontrolera ako wi e haresal > - kolko struwa orientirowachno > - ako move da mi opishe kade kakwo trqbwa da se > konfigurira (marzi me da cheta) za hardware-RAID-a > - koi linux polzwa A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
Re: lug-bg: IDE-RAID
On Sun, 14 Jul 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > - ako move da mi opishe kade kakwo trqbwa da se > konfigurira (marzi me da cheta) [FLAME MODE ON] Kak pyk, da mu eba maikata ne te myrzi i da pishesh, a ?? Poludiawam, kato gi widia takiwa kato teb. [FLAME MODE OFF] -- Alexander 'fccf' Velin, [EMAIL PROTECTED] /* Don't meddle in the affairs of sysadmins, * for they are subtle and quick to anger. * # chown -R us:us yourbase */ A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
Re: lug-bg: IDE-RAID
On Saturday 13 July 2002 23:00, you wrote: > Nqkoi da e polzwal RAID-IDE s dwa diska w MIRROR revim (ne si spomqnam koi > nomer RAID beshe towa) taka che ako se skape ediniq da si prodylvi da > raboti... towa > koeto me interesuwa : > > - Kakwo e tochnoto ime na kontrolera ako wi e haresal > - kolko struwa orientirowachno > - ako move da mi opishe kade kakwo trqbwa da se > konfigurira (marzi me da cheta) za hardware-RAID-a > - koi linux polzwa > > thanx > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > === >= A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). > http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara > Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html > === >= Polzvam Iwill SIDE-RAID100 (ima i 66 koito e po evtin) kogato go kupih ne se podarziashe ot linux i go podkarah pod freebsd bez problemi, mislia che sega raid funciite se podarziat ot linux no ne sam go probval v RAID rezim pod linux (drivera ot http://www.highpoint-tech.com/370drivers_down.htm e open source ,cena orientirirovachno okolo 75leva no tova e cena v dania, v bulgaria moze i da e po malko) Drugia kontroler koito moze da se podkara e Promise, FastTrak TX2000, ATA/133 RAID 0,1,0+1 ima podrazka ot kompaniata no ne sam go probval bi tribvalo da e po dobar ot SIDE-RAID cenata mu tuka e oklo 250lv Pozdravi, Boyan A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
Re: lug-bg: IDE-RAID
V ComelSoft prodavat PCI ata100/raid controleri. Niamam predstava kolko struvat, no sys sigurnost vyrshat rabota. Ima si modul v kernela za tiah. Rabotiat stabilno s Maxtor i WD diskove. -- Original Message --- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 00:00:30 +0300 Subject: lug-bg: IDE-RAID > Nqkoi da e polzwal RAID-IDE s dwa diska w MIRROR > revim (ne si spomqnam koi nomer RAID beshe towa) > taka che ako se skape ediniq da si prodylvi da > raboti... towa koeto me interesuwa : > > - Kakwo e tochnoto ime na kontrolera ako wi e > haresal - kolko struwa orientirowachno - ako move > da mi opishe kade kakwo trqbwa da se konfigurira > (marzi me da cheta) za hardware-RAID-a - koi linux > polzwa > > thanx > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria > (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux- > bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - > Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux- bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html > > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. --- End of Original Message --- -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
Re: lug-bg: IDE-RAID
Ako te myrzi da chetesh nqma da stane rabotata :) Polzvam RAID1 s dyno 845 intel chipset controler vgraden na Promise Technology ATA100 2x80G Maxtor. Trygva nai dobre (i spored dokumentaciqta) s native linux drivera - ataraid. V google ako potyrsish shte namerish Howto specialno za nego. BRGDS Stefan Myankov A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
RE: lug-bg: IDE-RAID
Nqkoj wijdal li e implementirano reshenie s IDE RAID5 ili e samo sluh che takowa neshto syshtestwuwa? Syshto nqkoj wijdal li e IDE to SCSI convertori? BR, Boyan > -Original Message- > From: Stefan Myankov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 1:37 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: lug-bg: IDE-RAID > > > Ako te myrzi da chetesh nqma da stane rabotata :) > Polzvam RAID1 s dyno 845 intel chipset controler vgraden na Promise > Technology ATA100 2x80G Maxtor. > Trygva nai dobre (i spored dokumentaciqta) s native linux drivera - > ataraid. V google ako potyrsish shte namerish Howto specialno za nego. > > > BRGDS > Stefan Myankov A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
Re: lug-bg: IDE-RAID
On Sunday 14 July 2002 15:52, Boyan Krosnov wrote: > Nqkoj wijdal li e implementirano reshenie s IDE RAID5 ili e samo sluh > che takowa neshto syshtestwuwa? to vyobste IDE RAID trudno se sreshta (u nas maj ste ti e dosta trudno da namerish), stoto prozivoditelite blyskat SCSI disks za da ostipat pove4e money ;-). No takova nesto maj ima, specialno Promise se zaminavat s IDE RAID systems (da svalqt cenata uzh;). Eto edin byrz search kakvo pokaza: First external RAID 5 subsystem for Ultra ATA/100 drives (UltraTrak100) http://www.rojakpot.com/Speed_Demonz/IDE_RAID/RAID_01.htm http://www.xbitlabs.com/storage/promise-ultratrak100-tx4/ ne e uto4neno dali stava vypros za RAID 5, no predpolagam mozhe da se izbira mode-a, stoto tova e dosta debelo zhelqzo ... external (a ne internal PCI-ski) skaf s IDE disks, s sobstven soft i display i e vyrzano 4rez Ultra2 SCSI interface za machinata ... ta na takova 4udo ne mi se vqrva da ne mozhe da mu setnesh RAID mode-a ot negoviq setup ... oba4e tova ve4e maj si e Hardware RAID stoto se upravlqva ot specializirano negovo ustrojstvo, a ne kernela da se razpravq da combine partitions/disks, e.g. Software RAID. Interesno za da podkara tova dobi4e kernel-a kakyv to4no sypport (t.e. za kakvo) trqbva da ima compiled, ako vyobste go ima de... > Syshto nqkoj wijdal li e IDE to SCSI convertori? ako ima pazar nisto 4udno da ima samostoqtelno proizvezhdani i takiva, samo ne znam kak ste izravnqt transfer rate-a s tozi na istinski SCSI disk ;-) Osven tova ima i drugi izvrysteniq otnosno tova kakva media u4astva v RAID masiva, ta osven SCSI i IDE (ATA) disks, ima i RAID ot RAM disks, i Network RAID - nositelite sa SCSI ili IDE diskove i sa v mrezhata i sa connect-nati prez ATM/FDDI/GigaBit Ether ... nesto byrzo koeto osven routine network trafika da mozhe da prokarva ovreme i parity data za RAID-a... ve4e v kakyv RAID mode mozhe da stava tova edin gospod znae ... vyobste kombinacijte i temata sa bezkrajni. -- Greets, fr33zb1 A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
Re: lug-bg: IDE-RAID
ok ... sorry .. | - ako move da mi opishe kade kakwo trqbwa da se |konfigurira (marzi me da cheta) za hardware-RAID-a ]- estestweno che ste cheta kazah towa mevdu drugoto ...(prosto mi trqbwashe nqkoi ]nasochwashti swedeniq, po princip mislq che cheta dosta poweche ot wseki ot tezi ]koito me flamnaha w lista :") /no pun intended/) ok.. sorry oste wednav... raptor PS. Myrzela e glawniq dwigatel na progresa :") --- Impatience, Laziness, Hurbis --- (mislq che zanete towa ot kade idwa)... aide chao za sega che me marzi da pisha poweche :") A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
Re: lug-bg: IDE-RAID
| |Ako te myrzi da chetesh nqma da stane rabotata :) |Polzvam RAID1 s dyno 845 intel chipset controler vgraden na Promise |Technology ATA100 2x80G Maxtor. |Trygva nai dobre (i spored dokumentaciqta) s native linux drivera - |ataraid. V google ako potyrsish shte namerish Howto specialno za nego. ]- move li da mi kavesh koe e tochno dynoto ? thanx A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
RE: lug-bg: IDE-RAID
> princip mislq che cheta dosta poweche ot wseki ot tezi koito > me flamnaha w lista :") /no pun intended/) A ot kyde po dqwolite znaesh kolko chete primerno Velin ili kolko cheta az? Da ne bi da mi baesh ot razstoqnie wseki pyt kato cheta? Taka che "po princip": NE, ne chetesh "dosta poweche" ot tezi koito te flamenaha. BR, Boyan Krosnov, CCIE#8701 http://boyan.ludost.net/ Just another techie speaking for himself A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
Re: lug-bg: IDE-RAID
On Sun, 14 Jul 2002 00:40:47 +0300 (EEST) Alexander Velin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [FLAME MODE ON] > > Kak pyk, da mu eba maikata ne te myrzi i da pishesh, a ?? > Poludiawam, kato gi widia takiwa kato teb. > > [FLAME MODE OFF] > Bravo, inteligentno i na mjasto kazano. Zashto izobshto si pravish truda da otgovorish? Ponlakoga list-a plache za moderirane... Take care Boris Jordanov (borj) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ICQ 10751645 PGP-key-fingerprint:-- CB23 8B52 5FBC F36A 1B61 F1ED 2831 E52D AAFF 7B08 -- Public-key:--- http://borj.freeshell.org/borj.asc -- To err is human... to really foul up requires the root password. msg11800/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: lug-bg: IDE-RAID
... oba4e tova ve4e maj si e Hardware RAID stoto se upravlqva ot specializirano negovo ustrojstvo, a ne kernela da se razpravq da combine partitions/disks, e.g. Software RAID. Interesno za da podkara tova dobi4e kernel-a kakyv to4no sypport (t.e. za kakvo) trqbva da ima compiled, ako vyobste go ima de... Popravete me, ako burkam, no si misleh, che Hardware RAID izglejda za kompiutara kato 1 fizichesko ustrojstvo, nezawisimo ot kakvo tochno e sustaven RAID-a. Ako ima niakakuv software za takova chudo, to shte e za monitoring i upravlenie, no ne i da poddarja RAID-a t.e. da smiata kade kakvo triabva da se pishe po diskovete... Syshto nqkoj wijdal li e IDE to SCSI convertori? Tuk neshto ne razbiram - imash predwid konvertor s pomoshta na koito na SCSI shina da zakachish IDE disk ? Samo edin ili nqkolko ? Ako e edin, ne mislia che ima - kontrolera triabva da e dosta inteligenten (t.e. skup ), zashtoto IDE i SCSI se razlichavat dosta, pak i kakvo se pecheli : razstoianie ( ako e Diff SCSI - do 25 m ) i broj ustrojstwa... kato jertvash dosta proizwoditelnost. Moje bi e po-razumen onzi external RAID na Promise ( statiata v xbitlabs ) - izpolzvat se po-bavni diskove, kato se kompensira cena... IMHO ako se goni cena ( ogranichen biudjet i t.n. ) dostatuchno kadurno reshenie e Software RAID - po - evtino e da se investira v kompiutara, otkolkoto v dedicated hardware ustroistvo ( a i mashinkata moje da se izpolzva i za drugo ;-) - tuk veche triabva vnimatelno da se preceni natovarvaneto, iziskvaniata i t.n. i e nai-dobre da stene sled natrupvane na malko prakticheski nabliudenia nad konkretnata konfiguracia). Drug e vaprosa ako vi e po-shiroko okolo vrata ( t.e. shefa vi zamerva s pachki prez obednata pochivka ) - togava Hardware RAID si e perfektno reshenie, kato izchislitelnoto natovarvane se prenasia kam procesora na RAID-a, sashto taka se oblekchava i tovara po shinata, na koiato e RAID-a ( bila tia SCSI ili neshto drugo... ). ako ima pazar nisto 4udno da ima samostoqtelno proizvezhdani i takiva, samo ne znam kak ste izravnqt transfer rate-a s tozi na istinski SCSI disk ;-)Osven tova ima i drugi izvrysteniq otnosno tova kakva media u4astva v RAID masiva, ta osven SCSI i IDE (ATA) disks, ima i RAID ot RAM disks, i Network RAID - nositelite sa SCSI ili IDE diskove i sa v mrezhata i sa connect-nati prez ATM/FDDI/GigaBit Ether ... nesto byrzo koeto osven routine network trafika da mozhe da prokarva ovreme i parity data za RAID-a... Pribavi kam izvrashteniata i RAID ot 22 FC-AL diskove ( dvuportovi optichni diskove... BTW interfeisat im e copper ) na Sun. Pusnahme RAID 5 na tova neshto i biah ... meko kazano vpechatlen... Pozdravi, PeshoTo err is human, but to really mess things up requires the root password ...
Re: lug-bg: IDE-RAID
naskoro s edin kolega puskahme tochno towa RAID-1 (Mirroring) na Slackware 8.1 bez problemi Promise beshe kontrolera ima malko tynkosti pri puskaneto mislq che na RH se puska po lesno w obshti linii google.com pomogna za puskaneto :)) ideqta e da widish io-tata i irq-to na kontrolerite sled kato gi opishesh na lilo prompta (append line) movesh da polzwash /dev/ataraid/d0 On Sun, 2002-07-14 at 00:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > Nqkoi da e polzwal RAID-IDE s dwa diska w MIRROR revim (ne si spomqnam koi nomer >RAID beshe towa) > taka che ako se skape ediniq da si prodylvi da raboti... towa > koeto me interesuwa : > > - Kakwo e tochnoto ime na kontrolera ako wi e haresal > - kolko struwa orientirowachno > - ako move da mi opishe kade kakwo trqbwa da se > konfigurira (marzi me da cheta) za hardware-RAID-a > - koi linux polzwa > > thanx > [-cut-] -- -=#=-=#=-=#=-=#=-=#=-=#=-=#=-=#=-=#=-=#=-=#=-=#=-=#=-=#=-=#=-=#=- Regards,AngelFire Stanislav Lechev<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> PGP Key: http://firedust.vega.bg/pgp/StanislavLechev.asc Vega Internet Service Provider (tm) -- http://www.vega.bg -=#=-=#=-=#=-=#=-=#=-=#=-=#=-=#=-=#=-=#=-=#=-=#=-=#=-=#=-=#=-=#=- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: lug-bg: IDE-RAID
ok ne cheta...:") izwinih se :") A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
FAQ && Allall (was Re: lug-bg: IDE-RAID)
On Mon, 15 Jul 2002, Boris Jordanov wrote: > > [FLAME MODE ON] > > Kak pyk, da mu eba maikata ne te myrzi i da pishesh, a ?? > > Poludiawam, kato gi widia takiwa kato teb. > > [FLAME MODE OFF] > > > Bravo, inteligentno i na mjasto kazano. Zashto izobshto si pravish truda da > otgovorish? Ponlakoga list-a plache za moderirane... Towa mnenie me kara da spodelia niakoi neshta za tozi list nai nakraia. Ako niakoi se pochustwa obiden, da si predstawia che sym obgradil texta s FLAME tagowe... Da, gospodin Jordanov, lista _ima_ nuzhda ot moderirane. Lista ima nuzhda i ot FAQ - ima ciklichnost na zadadenite wyprosi. Lista ima nuzhda nikoi ot potrebitelite mu da opresniat znaniata si po online kultura. Lista ima nuzhda horata da pomisliat dali wremeto i bandwidtha na wsichki ostanali sa free. Lista ima nuzhda potrebitelite mu da polagat izwestni usilia predi da zapochnat da pitat, zashtoto lista ne e manna nebesa, ne e welikiat Oraclul na internet, koito winagi otgowaria s optimnalno. Lista e miasto kydeto malko hora spodeliat opit, a ne kakto se kazwashe predi wreme "edni admini wyrshat rabotata na drugi". Zhalko che niama statistika na zadawanite wyprosi po hora. Zhalko, che primerno Marian Popov pita sredno wednyzh na sedmica neshto. Bih popital "zashto po wreme na cialoto mi prisystwie w lug-bg ima edin zadaden wypros, i edistwenia otgowor beshe ot George Danchev, koito uwazhawam po towa koeto cheta ot nego w tozi list, koeto nemozhe da se kazhe za wsichki ostanali. Bih popital ama me e sram. Diado mi nawremeto kazwashe "Nikoi ne se e rodil nauchen", ama pls kolegi, nauchete se da cenite wremeto na drugite. Rgrds, velin -- Alexander 'fccf' Velin, [EMAIL PROTECTED] /* Don't meddle in the affairs of sysadmins, * for they are subtle and quick to anger. * # chown -R us:us yourbase */ A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
Re: FAQ && Allall (was Re: lug-bg: IDE-RAID)
Alexander Velin wrote: > On Mon, 15 Jul 2002, Boris Jordanov wrote: > > >>>[FLAME MODE ON] >>>Kak pyk, da mu eba maikata ne te myrzi i da pishesh, a ?? >>>Poludiawam, kato gi widia takiwa kato teb. >>>[FLAME MODE OFF] >>> >> >>Bravo, inteligentno i na mjasto kazano. Zashto izobshto si pravish truda da >>otgovorish? Ponlakoga list-a plache za moderirane... > > > Towa mnenie me kara da spodelia niakoi neshta za tozi list nai nakraia. > Ako niakoi se pochustwa obiden, da si predstawia che sym obgradil texta s > FLAME tagowe... > > Da, gospodin Jordanov, lista _ima_ nuzhda ot moderirane. Lista ima nuzhda Niama nuzhda ot moderirane. > i ot FAQ - ima ciklichnost na zadadenite wyprosi. Lista ima nuzhda nikoi Za FAQ sam saglasen. I kakto vinagi se vrashtame na tova che niakoi triabva da go napravi. > ot potrebitelite mu da opresniat znaniata si po online kultura. Lista ima > nuzhda horata da pomisliat dali wremeto i bandwidtha na wsichki ostanali > sa free. Lista ima nuzhda potrebitelite mu da polagat izwestni usilia > predi da zapochnat da pitat, zashtoto lista ne e manna nebesa, ne e > welikiat Oraclul na internet, koito winagi otgowaria s optimnalno. Lista e > miasto kydeto malko hora spodeliat opit, a ne kakto se kazwashe predi > wreme "edni admini wyrshat rabotata na drugi". Zhalko che niama statistika > na zadawanite wyprosi po hora. Zhalko, che primerno Marian Popov pita > sredno wednyzh na sedmica neshto. Bih popital "zashto po wreme na cialoto > mi prisystwie w lug-bg ima edin zadaden wypros, i edistwenia otgowor beshe > ot George Danchev, koito uwazhawam po towa koeto cheta ot nego w tozi > list, koeto nemozhe da se kazhe za wsichki ostanali. Bih popital ama me e > sram. Diado mi nawremeto kazwashe "Nikoi ne se e rodil nauchen", ama pls > kolegi, nauchete se da cenite wremeto na drugite. ...i da polzvate search engines :) -- Georgi Chorbadzhiyski http://georgi.top.bg/ A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html