lug-bg: Klezz & amavis problem

2002-04-19 Thread Stoian Mishev

werojatno mnogo sa se sblyskali s toja virus ... dosta moderen :-)
polzwam sendmail+amavis+f-prot 3.12, koito raboteha bezuprechno weche 7 meseca.
problem:
kogato prez server-a minawa poshta zarazena s W32/Klez.H@mm amavisa ne q zasicha :-(, 
no ako izkaram attachmant-a f-prota si q otkriwa bez problem
nqkoj sprawil li se e s toja virus?

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Re: lug-bg: Klezz & amavis problem

2002-04-19 Thread Jordan Merachev

Az sam s Qmail 1.03 + AMaViS 0.2.1 + H+BEDV AntiVir  i nqmam problemi.
S koi Amavis si?

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Subject: lug-bg: Klezz & amavis problem


> werojatno mnogo sa se sblyskali s toja virus ... dosta moderen :-)
> polzwam sendmail+amavis+f-prot 3.12, koito raboteha bezuprechno weche 7
meseca.
> problem:
> kogato prez server-a minawa poshta zarazena s W32/Klez.H@mm amavisa ne q
zasicha:-(, no ako izkaram attachmant-a f-prota si q otkriwa bez problem
> nqkoj sprawil li se e s toja virus?
>
> --
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Re: lug-bg: Klezz & amavis problem

2002-04-19 Thread Nikodim Nikodimov

RAV za mail server  go zasicha

NN
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From: "Stoian Mishev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: lug-bg: Klezz & amavis problem


> werojatno mnogo sa se sblyskali s toja virus ... dosta moderen :-)
> polzwam sendmail+amavis+f-prot 3.12, koito raboteha bezuprechno weche 7
meseca.
> problem:
> kogato prez server-a minawa poshta zarazena s W32/Klez.H@mm amavisa ne q
zasicha :-(, no ako izkaram attachmant-a f-prota si q otkriwa bez problem
> nqkoj sprawil li se e s toja virus?
>
> --
> Stoian Mishev
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Re: lug-bg: Klezz & amavis problem

2002-04-19 Thread Stanislav Lechev

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pri nas e inflex + antivir i raboti perfect

Íà Ïåòúê 19 Àïðèë 2002 15:11, Stoian Mishev íàïèñà:
> werojatno mnogo sa se sblyskali s toja virus ... dosta moderen :-)
> polzwam sendmail+amavis+f-prot 3.12, koito raboteha bezuprechno weche 7
> meseca. problem:
> kogato prez server-a minawa poshta zarazena s W32/Klez.H@mm amavisa ne q
> zasicha :-(, no ako izkaram attachmant-a f-prota si q otkriwa bez problem
> nqkoj sprawil li se e s toja virus?

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Re: lug-bg: Klezz & amavis problem

2002-04-19 Thread Ivaylo Toshev

inflex + f-prot sushto niama problemi

On Ïò, 2002-04-19 at 16:03, Stanislav Lechev wrote:
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> pri nas e inflex + antivir i raboti perfect
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> Íà Ïåòúê 19 Àïðèë 2002 15:11, Stoian Mishev íàïèñà:
> > werojatno mnogo sa se sblyskali s toja virus ... dosta moderen :-)
> > polzwam sendmail+amavis+f-prot 3.12, koito raboteha bezuprechno weche 7
> > meseca. problem:
> > kogato prez server-a minawa poshta zarazena s W32/Klez.H@mm amavisa ne q
> > zasicha :-(, no ako izkaram attachmant-a f-prota si q otkriwa bez problem
> > nqkoj sprawil li se e s toja virus?
> 
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Re: lug-bg: Klezz & amavis problem

2002-04-19 Thread Andrei Boyanov

On Fri, Apr 19, 2002 at 03:11:23PM +0300, Stoian Mishev wrote:
> werojatno mnogo sa se sblyskali s toja virus ... dosta moderen :-)
> polzwam sendmail+amavis+f-prot 3.12, koito raboteha bezuprechno weche 7 meseca.
> problem:
> kogato prez server-a minawa poshta zarazena s W32/Klez.H@mm amavisa ne q zasicha 
>:-(, no ako izkaram attachmant-a f-prota si q otkriwa bez problem
> nqkoj sprawil li se e s toja virus?


Moia f-prot obache ne uspiava da go pochisti. Moje bi tova e prichinata. Amavis maj 
mojeshe da se konfigurira da trie tia, deto ne e uspial da gi poschisti...


rgds,
Andrei

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Re: lug-bg: Klezz & amavis problem

2002-04-19 Thread Ivaylo Toshev

za f-prot sushto ima takava opcia - vij v /usr/local/inflex/inflex
f-prot --help

On Ïò, 2002-04-19 at 16:18, Andrei Boyanov wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 19, 2002 at 03:11:23PM +0300, Stoian Mishev wrote:
> > werojatno mnogo sa se sblyskali s toja virus ... dosta moderen :-)
> > polzwam sendmail+amavis+f-prot 3.12, koito raboteha bezuprechno weche 7 meseca.
> > problem:
> > kogato prez server-a minawa poshta zarazena s W32/Klez.H@mm amavisa ne q zasicha 
>:-(, no ako izkaram attachmant-a f-prota si q otkriwa bez problem
> > nqkoj sprawil li se e s toja virus?
> 
> 
> Moia f-prot obache ne uspiava da go pochisti. Moje bi tova e prichinata. Amavis maj 
>mojeshe da se konfigurira da trie tia, deto ne e uspial da gi poschisti...
> 
> 
> rgds,
> Andrei
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Re: lug-bg: Klezz & amavis problem

2002-04-19 Thread Ivan Boyanov

inflex + uvscan (dat-4197) sushto niama problemi

IT Depth
Khan Asparuh AD, Isperih

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Re: lug-bg: Klezz & amavis problem

2002-04-19 Thread Konstantin Ivanov

Niakoi da ima serial ili neshto ot sorta za trial versiata na RAV

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> pri nas e inflex + antivir i raboti perfect
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> Íà Ïåòúê 19 Àïðèë 2002 15:11, Stoian Mishev íàïèñà:
> > werojatno mnogo sa se sblyskali s toja virus ... dosta moderen :-)
> > polzwam sendmail+amavis+f-prot 3.12, koito raboteha bezuprechno 
weche 7
> > meseca. problem:
> > kogato prez server-a minawa poshta zarazena s W32/Klez.H@mm amavisa 
ne q
> > zasicha :-(, no ako izkaram attachmant-a f-prota si q otkriwa bez 
problem
> > nqkoj sprawil li se e s toja virus?
> 
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Re: lug-bg: Klezz & amavis problem

2002-04-19 Thread Teodor Georgiev


da mu ebem bash maika vo usta na toq, deto go e pisal virusa.
kakto doidoh na work ot komandirovka i tuka beshe uzhas.

tova sa razni kreteni, deto si nqmat rabota po cql den i si choplqt nosa.

a RAV'a ne go e hvanal.

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> Niakoi da ima serial ili neshto ot sorta za trial versiata na RAV
>
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> >
> > pri nas e inflex + antivir i raboti perfect
> >
> > Эр Яхђњъ 19 Ря№шы 2002 15:11, Stoian Mishev эряшёр:
> > > werojatno mnogo sa se sblyskali s toja virus ... dosta moderen :-)
> > > polzwam sendmail+amavis+f-prot 3.12, koito raboteha bezuprechno
> weche 7
> > > meseca. problem:
> > > kogato prez server-a minawa poshta zarazena s W32/Klez.H@mm amavisa
> ne q
> > > zasicha :-(, no ako izkaram attachmant-a f-prota si q otkriwa bez
> problem
> > > nqkoj sprawil li se e s toja virus?
> >
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Re: lug-bg: Klezz & amavis problem

2002-04-19 Thread Nikolay Kabaivanov

Zdarwej 
Az polzwam sendmail+mailcanner+f-prot   i poslednite definicii za
f-prot-a 
Wirusa se otkriwa.
__
Nikolay Kabaivanov, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
University of Rousse, Bulgaria

Stoian Mishev wrote:
> 
> werojatno mnogo sa se sblyskali s toja virus ... dosta moderen :-)
> polzwam sendmail+amavis+f-prot 3.12, koito raboteha bezuprechno weche 7 meseca.
> problem:
> kogato prez server-a minawa poshta zarazena s W32/Klez.H@mm amavisa ne q zasicha 
>:-(, no ako izkaram attachmant-a f-prota si q otkriwa bez problem
> nqkoj sprawil li se e s toja virus?
> 
> --
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Re: lug-bg: Klezz & amavis problem

2002-04-19 Thread Emil Georgiev

izkarvai attachmenta i togava go skanirai
sendmail go nakarai da prashta kym edno queue, kydeto slusha 
skanirashtata programa. Tja trjabva da skanira pismototo kato go razdeli 
na chastite mu, sled koeto, ako njama virus, go sglobjava, i go prashta 
na drugo queue, kydeto stoi drug process 'sendmail', koito veche go 
prashta kym poshtata. Nashata skanirashta programa e MailScanner
Stoian Mishev wrote:

> werojatno mnogo sa se sblyskali s toja virus ... dosta moderen :-)
> polzwam sendmail+amavis+f-prot 3.12, koito raboteha bezuprechno weche 7 meseca.
> problem:
> kogato prez server-a minawa poshta zarazena s W32/Klez.H@mm amavisa ne q zasicha 
>:-(, no ako izkaram attachmant-a f-prota si q otkriwa bez problem
> nqkoj sprawil li se e s toja virus?
> 
> 



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Re: lug-bg: Klezz & amavis problem

2002-04-19 Thread Georgi Chorbadzhiyski

Teodor Georgiev wrote:
> da mu ebem bash maika vo usta na toq, deto go e pisal virusa.
> kakto doidoh na work ot komandirovka i tuka beshe uzhas.
> 
> tova sa razni kreteni, deto si nqmat rabota po cql den i si choplqt nosa.

Super gotin virus, mnogo me kefi! Ako niakoga se zapoznaia s avtora ima
goliama pocherpka ot men.

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RE: lug-bg: Klezz & amavis problem

2002-04-19 Thread Boyan Krosnov

Kaji mi kyde shte e pocherpkata s avtora che da se poqwq na ugoworenoto
mqsto s zaredena dwucevka :)

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> 
> Teodor Georgiev wrote:
> > da mu ebem bash maika vo usta na toq, deto go e pisal virusa.
> > kakto doidoh na work ot komandirovka i tuka beshe uzhas.
> > 
> > tova sa razni kreteni, deto si nqmat rabota po cql den i si 
> choplqt nosa.
> 
> Super gotin virus, mnogo me kefi! Ako niakoga se zapoznaia s 
> avtora ima
> goliama pocherpka ot men.
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Re: lug-bg: Klezz & amavis problem

2002-04-19 Thread Anton Tinchev

Abe tva da ne e Linux-ki virus ta revete i se zalvate taka.
Dokolkot znam napada samo windows-ki mashini taka che vas kvi vi barka

Stoian Mishev wrote:
> 
> werojatno mnogo sa se sblyskali s toja virus ... dosta moderen :-)
> polzwam sendmail+amavis+f-prot 3.12, koito raboteha bezuprechno weche 7 meseca.
> problem:
> kogato prez server-a minawa poshta zarazena s W32/Klez.H@mm amavisa ne q zasicha 
>:-(, no ako izkaram attachmant-a f-prota si q otkriwa bez problem
> nqkoj sprawil li se e s toja virus?
> 
> --
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RE: lug-bg: Klezz & amavis problem

2002-04-19 Thread Boyan Krosnov

Khm, ako ne si zabelqzal stawa duma za e-mail serveri. (prez koito
eventualno minawa poshta koqto se chete na ne-Linux-ki mashini)

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> Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 9:04 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: lug-bg: Klezz & amavis problem
> 
> 
> Abe tva da ne e Linux-ki virus ta revete i se zalvate taka.
> Dokolkot znam napada samo windows-ki mashini taka che vas kvi vi barka
> 
> Stoian Mishev wrote:
> > 
> > werojatno mnogo sa se sblyskali s toja virus ... dosta moderen :-)
> > polzwam sendmail+amavis+f-prot 3.12, koito raboteha 
> bezuprechno weche 7 meseca.
> > problem:
> > kogato prez server-a minawa poshta zarazena s W32/Klez.H@mm 
> amavisa ne q zasicha :-(, no ako izkaram attachmant-a f-prota 
> si q otkriwa bez problem
> > nqkoj sprawil li se e s toja virus?
> > 
> > --
> > Stoian Mishev
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Re: lug-bg: Klezz & amavis problem

2002-04-19 Thread Stoyan Lekov

problema ne e v amavis
samia dat file izleze po-kysno (da, siguren sam)
veche go zasicha
i . dear mr. Tinchev .. nikoi ne se zhalva, a pita ...
ne mislia che ima neshto sramno v tova da popitash - po-sramno e ako
otgovora e "kakvo se zhalvash" osobenno ako otgovora e neumesten



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From: Boyan Krosnov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 19 Àïðèë 2002 ã. 21:54
Subject: RE: lug-bg: Klezz & amavis problem


>Khm, ako ne si zabelqzal stawa duma za e-mail serveri. (prez koito
>eventualno minawa poshta koqto se chete na ne-Linux-ki mashini)
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Anton Tinchev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 9:04 PM
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: Re: lug-bg: Klezz & amavis problem
>>
>>
>> Abe tva da ne e Linux-ki virus ta revete i se zalvate taka.
>> Dokolkot znam napada samo windows-ki mashini taka che vas kvi vi barka
>>
>> Stoian Mishev wrote:
>> >
>> > werojatno mnogo sa se sblyskali s toja virus ... dosta moderen :-)
>> > polzwam sendmail+amavis+f-prot 3.12, koito raboteha
>> bezuprechno weche 7 meseca.
>> > problem:
>> > kogato prez server-a minawa poshta zarazena s W32/Klez.H@mm
>> amavisa ne q zasicha :-(, no ako izkaram attachmant-a f-prota
>> si q otkriwa bez problem
>> > nqkoj sprawil li se e s toja virus?
>> >
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Re: lug-bg: Klezz & amavis problem

2002-04-19 Thread Stoyan Lekov

btw polzvame tuk script koito v opredeleno vreme proveriava ima li po-nova
versia na .dat failovete, i ako ima gi obnoviava. ako niakoi se interesuva
shte go pratia


-Original Message-
From: Stoyan Lekov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 19 Àïðèë 2002 ã. 22:09
Subject: Re: lug-bg: Klezz & amavis problem


>problema ne e v amavis
>samia dat file izleze po-kysno (da, siguren sam)
>veche go zasicha
>i . dear mr. Tinchev .. nikoi ne se zhalva, a pita ...
>ne mislia che ima neshto sramno v tova da popitash - po-sramno e ako
>otgovora e "kakvo se zhalvash" osobenno ako otgovora e neumesten
>
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Boyan Krosnov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: 19 ? 2002 ?. 21:54
>Subject: RE: lug-bg: Klezz & amavis problem
>
>
>>Khm, ako ne si zabelqzal stawa duma za e-mail serveri. (prez koito
>>eventualno minawa poshta koqto se chete na ne-Linux-ki mashini)
>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Anton Tinchev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>> Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 9:04 PM
>>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Subject: Re: lug-bg: Klezz & amavis problem
>>>
>>>
>>> Abe tva da ne e Linux-ki virus ta revete i se zalvate taka.
>>> Dokolkot znam napada samo windows-ki mashini taka che vas kvi vi barka
>>>
>>> Stoian Mishev wrote:
>>> >
>>> > werojatno mnogo sa se sblyskali s toja virus ... dosta moderen :-)
>>> > polzwam sendmail+amavis+f-prot 3.12, koito raboteha
>>> bezuprechno weche 7 meseca.
>>> > problem:
>>> > kogato prez server-a minawa poshta zarazena s W32/Klez.H@mm
>>> amavisa ne q zasicha :-(, no ako izkaram attachmant-a f-prota
>>> si q otkriwa bez problem
>>> > nqkoj sprawil li se e s toja virus?
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Stoian Mishev
>>> > Internet Administraror, Dolphin-3 BG.
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Re: lug-bg: Klezz & amavis problem

2002-04-19 Thread Stoian Mishev


- Original Message -
From: "Stoyan Lekov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 11:00 PM
Subject: Re: lug-bg: Klezz & amavis problem


> btw polzvame tuk script koito v opredeleno vreme proveriava ima li po-nova
> versia na .dat failovete, i ako ima gi obnoviava. ako niakoi se interesuva
> shte go pratia
>
>
da na mene mi stana interesno kakwi tochno DAT fileowe polzwate (za kakyw
antivirus) ? zashtoto az si update-wam redowno (sys script) .DEF na f-prot-a
no towa ne pomogna w sluchaja ;-(

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Re: lug-bg: Klezz & amavis problem

2002-04-20 Thread Ясен Праматаров

On Fri, Apr 19, 2002 Teodor Georgiev wrote:
 >da mu ... na toq, deto go e pisal virusa.
 >kakto doidoh na work ot komandirovka i tuka beshe uzhas.
 >tova sa razni kreteni, deto si nqmat rabota po cql den i si choplqt nosa.

  Àç ñå êåôÿ íà ïèñà÷èòå íà âèðóñè ;) Ïîíå ìè õàðåñâàò ïîâå÷å îò ðàçíèòå
ðàçïëóòè øåôîâå, çàëèçàíè ìåíèäæúðè è ò.í. :-Ð Òèÿ ðåïëèêè, äåòî ñúì ãè
çàìåñòèë ñ "..." â ïúðâîòî ïèñìî ãîðå, ïî-äîáðå äà ãè íàñî÷èø êúì 
ñêàïàíèòå áèçíåñ-åëà-ìå-ðèòíè ëþäå â ðîäíèòå ïèøìàí-ñîôòóåðíè ôèðìè è 
âúâ âåëèêèòå íè "äîñòàâ÷èöè"!
  Êàêâî ìó å ëîøîòî íà ÷îâåê, êîéòî èìà ñâîáîäàòà è æåëàíèåòî äà íàïðàâè
íåùî, áèëî òî è âèðóñ? Äà íå áè äà å ïî-äîáðå äà ñè çàòâîðåí êàòî ïðàñå 
â êî÷èíàòà íà íÿêîé äîñòàâ÷èê è äåí è íîù äà ñå ïîòèø çà êîïåëåòî, äà ìó
îïðàâÿø ìðåæàòà è òîé íà êðàÿ íà ìåñåöà äà òè äàâà ïàð÷åíöà îò êîêàëà çà
çàëúãàëêà è çà äà ìîæå äðóãèÿ ìåñåö ïàê äà ìó ñå ïîòèø â òúïèÿ îôèñ?? 
Èëè ïúê íÿêîé èçìèñëåí "ñîôòóåðåí" øåô... :-#...

  Âñå åäíî.. È êðàêåðèòå è òå ñà õîðà, íÿêîè ñà ïî-äîáðè õàêåðè îò 
âñè÷êè òóêà, âçåòè çàåäíî.. Óðà! çà âèðóñèòå! :-Ð

  À çàùî êàçâàø, ÷å ñà ðàçíè êðåòåíè, êîèòî ïî öÿë äåí ñè ÷îïëÿò íîñà?? 
Òîâà, ÷å òè ñè èìàø íÿêàêâà "ðàáîòà" êàê òå ïîñòàâÿ íàä òÿõ? Ñ êàêâî 
òîëêîâà òè å âàæíà ðàáîòàòà? Êðåòåíè ñà, íàïðèìåð, äîñòàâ÷èöèòå, çàùîòî 
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ìàôèÿ ó íàñ.. ùîòî òîâà ñè å ìàôèÿ..
  Ñïèðàì, ÷å è áåç òîâà íÿìà äà ìå ÷óåòå. Àéäå, ëåêà íîù!

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Re: lug-bg: Klezz & amavis problem

2002-04-20 Thread zimage

Áîæå îïàçè... äà íå ïîâÿðâà ÷îâåê...

On Sat, Apr 20, 2002 at 01:20:18PM +, ßñåí Ïðàìàòàðîâ wrote:
> 
>  Àç ñå êåôÿ íà ïèñà÷èòå íà âèðóñè ;) Ïîíå ìè õàðåñâàò ïîâå÷å îò ðàçíèòå
> ðàçïëóòè øåôîâå, çàëèçàíè ìåíèäæúðè è ò.í. :-Ð Òèÿ ðåïëèêè, äåòî ñúì ãè
> çàìåñòèë ñ "..." â ïúðâîòî ïèñìî ãîðå, ïî-äîáðå äà ãè íàñî÷èø êúì 
> ñêàïàíèòå áèçíåñ-åëà-ìå-ðèòíè ëþäå â ðîäíèòå ïèøìàí-ñîôòóåðíè ôèðìè è 
> âúâ âåëèêèòå íè "äîñòàâ÷èöè"!
>  Êàêâî ìó å ëîøîòî íà ÷îâåê, êîéòî èìà ñâîáîäàòà è æåëàíèåòî äà íàïðàâè
> íåùî, áèëî òî è âèðóñ? Äà íå áè äà å ïî-äîáðå äà ñè çàòâîðåí êàòî ïðàñå 
> â êî÷èíàòà íà íÿêîé äîñòàâ÷èê è äåí è íîù äà ñå ïîòèø çà êîïåëåòî, äà ìó
> îïðàâÿø ìðåæàòà è òîé íà êðàÿ íà ìåñåöà äà òè äàâà ïàð÷åíöà îò êîêàëà çà
> çàëúãàëêà è çà äà ìîæå äðóãèÿ ìåñåö ïàê äà ìó ñå ïîòèø â òúïèÿ îôèñ?? 
> Èëè ïúê íÿêîé èçìèñëåí "ñîôòóåðåí" øåô... :-#...
> 
>  Âñå åäíî.. È êðàêåðèòå è òå ñà õîðà, íÿêîè ñà ïî-äîáðè õàêåðè îò 
> âñè÷êè òóêà, âçåòè çàåäíî.. Óðà! çà âèðóñèòå! :-Ð
> 
>  À çàùî êàçâàø, ÷å ñà ðàçíè êðåòåíè, êîèòî ïî öÿë äåí ñè ÷îïëÿò íîñà?? 
> Òîâà, ÷å òè ñè èìàø íÿêàêâà "ðàáîòà" êàê òå ïîñòàâÿ íàä òÿõ? Ñ êàêâî 
> òîëêîâà òè å âàæíà ðàáîòàòà? Êðåòåíè ñà, íàïðèìåð, äîñòàâ÷èöèòå, çàùîòî 
> âçèìàò ïîñëåäíèòå ïàðè íà áåäíèòå áúëãàðè.. Êðåòåíè ñà öÿëàòà ñîôòóåðíà 
> ìàôèÿ ó íàñ.. ùîòî òîâà ñè å ìàôèÿ..
>  Ñïèðàì, ÷å è áåç òîâà íÿìà äà ìå ÷óåòå. Àéäå, ëåêà íîù!
> 
> Òóðèí.
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Re: lug-bg: Klezz & amavis problem

2002-04-20 Thread Vesselin Kolev

Napravi si smetka, kakav napredak shte ima, ako tezi, koito mogat da
pishat virusi vpregnat usliiata si v neshto po-polezno, naprimer v
razrabotki na programi pod LINUX za obuchenie v uchilishtata...

Po princip mozheshtia syzdava, tozi koito ne mozhe, nauchava neshto
vredno, dori ne go nauchava i savsem dobre, i go prilaga nad ostanalite 
za da rushi.. mozhe bi za da podtisne v sebe si komplex za malocennost 
ili za da vidi, che pone za mig e neshto poveche ot drugite, zashtoto 
iavno takiva momenti v zhivota mi sa riadkost.

On Saturday 20 April 2002 16:20, you wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 19, 2002 Teodor Georgiev wrote:
>  >da mu ... na toq, deto go e pisal virusa.
>  >kakto doidoh na work ot komandirovka i tuka beshe uzhas.
>  >tova sa razni kreteni, deto si nqmat rabota po cql den i si choplqt nosa.
>
>   Àç ñå êåôÿ íà ïèñà÷èòå íà âèðóñè ;) Ïîíå ìè õàðåñâàò ïîâå÷å îò ðàçíèòå
> ðàçïëóòè øåôîâå, çàëèçàíè ìåíèäæúðè è ò.í. :-Ð Òèÿ ðåïëèêè, äåòî ñúì ãè
> çàìåñòèë ñ "..." â ïúðâîòî ïèñìî ãîðå, ïî-äîáðå äà ãè íàñî÷èø êúì
> ñêàïàíèòå áèçíåñ-åëà-ìå-ðèòíè ëþäå â ðîäíèòå ïèøìàí-ñîôòóåðíè ôèðìè è
> âúâ âåëèêèòå íè "äîñòàâ÷èöè"!
>   Êàêâî ìó å ëîøîòî íà ÷îâåê, êîéòî èìà ñâîáîäàòà è æåëàíèåòî äà íàïðàâè
> íåùî, áèëî òî è âèðóñ? Äà íå áè äà å ïî-äîáðå äà ñè çàòâîðåí êàòî ïðàñå
> â êî÷èíàòà íà íÿêîé äîñòàâ÷èê è äåí è íîù äà ñå ïîòèø çà êîïåëåòî, äà ìó
> îïðàâÿø ìðåæàòà è òîé íà êðàÿ íà ìåñåöà äà òè äàâà ïàð÷åíöà îò êîêàëà çà
> çàëúãàëêà è çà äà ìîæå äðóãèÿ ìåñåö ïàê äà ìó ñå ïîòèø â òúïèÿ îôèñ??
> Èëè ïúê íÿêîé èçìèñëåí "ñîôòóåðåí" øåô... :-#...
>
>   Âñå åäíî.. È êðàêåðèòå è òå ñà õîðà, íÿêîè ñà ïî-äîáðè õàêåðè îò
> âñè÷êè òóêà, âçåòè çàåäíî.. Óðà! çà âèðóñèòå! :-Ð
>
>   À çàùî êàçâàø, ÷å ñà ðàçíè êðåòåíè, êîèòî ïî öÿë äåí ñè ÷îïëÿò íîñà??
> Òîâà, ÷å òè ñè èìàø íÿêàêâà "ðàáîòà" êàê òå ïîñòàâÿ íàä òÿõ? Ñ êàêâî
> òîëêîâà òè å âàæíà ðàáîòàòà? Êðåòåíè ñà, íàïðèìåð, äîñòàâ÷èöèòå, çàùîòî
> âçèìàò ïîñëåäíèòå ïàðè íà áåäíèòå áúëãàðè.. Êðåòåíè ñà öÿëàòà ñîôòóåðíà
> ìàôèÿ ó íàñ.. ùîòî òîâà ñè å ìàôèÿ..
>   Ñïèðàì, ÷å è áåç òîâà íÿìà äà ìå ÷óåòå. Àéäå, ëåêà íîù!
>
> Òóðèí.
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Re: lug-bg: Klezz & amavis problem

2002-04-20 Thread Ognyan Kulev

ßñåí Ïðàìàòàðîâ wrote:
>  Âñå åäíî.. È êðàêåðèòå è òå ñà õîðà, íÿêîè ñà ïî-äîáðè õàêåðè îò âñè÷êè 
> òóêà, âçåòè çàåäíî.. Óðà! çà âèðóñèòå! :-Ð

Àêî ñà òîëêîâà äîáðè ùî íå âçåìàò äà íàïðàâÿò íåùî ïîäîáíî íà M$ Word çà 
Ëèíóêñ.  Ñëàâàòà èì ùå áúäå *ìíîãî* ïî-ãîëÿìà îòêîëêîòî àêî ñå çàíèìàâàò 
ñ ðàçíè ïàðàçèòè.

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Re: lug-bg: Klezz & amavis problem

2002-04-20 Thread Ясен Праматаров

Vesselin Kolev wrote:
> Napravi si smetka, kakav napredak shte ima, ako tezi, koito mogat da
> pishat virusi vpregnat usliiata si v neshto po-polezno, naprimer v
> razrabotki na programi pod LINUX za obuchenie v uchilishtata...

Ïðîñòî ìèñëÿ, ÷å íå ìîæå äà ñå ìèñëè òàêà ;) Íå ìîæå íÿêîé äà ðåøàâà êîå 
å ïî-âàæíî, ïî-ïîëåçíî è ò.í. Òîåñò ìîæå, íî íå å äîáðå - òîòàëèòàðèçúì 
ìó ñå âèêà. Çíàåø, ÷å ïðîáëåìúò íå å îò â÷åðà; àç íå çàùèòàâàõ ïèñà÷èòå 
íà âèðóñè, ïðîñòî ñå îáàäèõ, çà äà çàùèòÿ ñàìèòå íàñ îò "õâúðëÿíåòî íà 
êàë íàîêîëî" è äà çàìàæà ñðàìà îò òîâà ïñóâàíå íà âîëÿ ïî àäðåñ íà 
âñåêè, êîéòî å ìàëêî êðèâ íà àäìèíà. Ïðîáëåìúò å, ÷å íèêîé íÿìà ïðàâî äà 
ðåøàâà êîå å ïî-ïðàâèëíî, ïî-ïîëåçíî è ò.í. Åäèíñòâåíîòî íåùî, êîåòî 
ìîæå äà ñå èçìåðè, å ðåçóëòàòíîñòòà! Ìîðàëúò å îòíîñèòåëåí è, ïîâÿðâàéòå 
ìè (èçñëåäâàë ñúì òàêèâà íåùà..), íàé-÷åñòî å â óñëóãà íà âëàñòòà.. Òîâà 
îçíà÷àâà, ÷å íå íèå (àç, âèå..) êàçâàìå êîå å ïî-ïðàâèëî è ò.í.! 
Ó÷èëèùå, ïðèÿòåëè, íîâèíè, óíèâåðñèòåò, ðàáîòíî ìÿñòî, ñâåùåíè äóìè íà 
øåôà è âñÿêàêâà äðóãà ìîçúêèïè÷åñòâàùà ïðîïàãàíäà - è õîï - èìàìå 
ìîðàëíî îòíîøåíèå ïî âúïðîñà.. Ìîëÿ âè ñå! ...

> Po princip mozheshtia syzdava, tozi koito ne mozhe, nauchava neshto
> vredno, dori ne go nauchava i savsem dobre, i go prilaga nad ostanalite 
> za da rushi.. mozhe bi za da podtisne v sebe si komplex za malocennost 
> ili za da vidi, che pone za mig e neshto poveche ot drugite, zashtoto 
> iavno takiva momenti v zhivota mi sa riadkost.

Òîâà ïàê å ïîâúðõíîñòíî.. ñîðè, íî å òàêà.. ÌÎÆÅÍÅÒÎ ñå èçðàçÿâà â 
ÏÐÀÂÅÍÅ!! À ïðàâåíåòî ìîæå äà áúäå ðàçðóøàâàíå.. Çàùî ìèñëèø, ÷å 
ðàçðóøàâàíåòî å ëåñíî?!? Ïèòàé Áàêúðäæèåâ çà ìàâçîëåÿ íàïðèìåð :))) joke
Ïî ñúùàòà ëîãèêà, àç ìèñëÿ, ÷å íÿêîè îò ñóïåð-ïðåâúçíàñÿùèòå ñå àäìèíè 
ñúùî èçáèâàò êîìïëåêñè è òî ìíîãî ïî-ÿêî, çàùîòî ïðîñòî íå ìîãàò äà ãè 
èçáèÿò êà÷åñòâåíî.
Ïàê êàçâàì, íå ñúì àäâîêàò íà íèêîãî!!
Ïðîñòî ìè å êîôòè äà ãëåäàì êàê äðóãèòå àäâîêàòñòâàò, áåç äà èìà íóæäà è 
áåç äà ðàçáèðàò òîâà.. ÿâíî..

Òóðèí.


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Re: lug-bg: Klezz & amavis problem

2002-04-20 Thread Ясен Праматаров

Ognyan Kulev wrote:
> ßñåí Ïðàìàòàðîâ wrote:
>>  Âñå åäíî.. È êðàêåðèòå è òå ñà õîðà, íÿêîè ñà ïî-äîáðè õàêåðè îò 
>> âñè÷êè òóêà, âçåòè çàåäíî.. Óðà! çà âèðóñèòå! :-Ð
> 
> Àêî ñà òîëêîâà äîáðè ùî íå âçåìàò äà íàïðàâÿò íåùî ïîäîáíî íà M$ Word çà 
> Ëèíóêñ.  Ñëàâàòà èì ùå áúäå *ìíîãî* ïî-ãîëÿìà îòêîëêîòî àêî ñå çàíèìàâàò 
> ñ ðàçíè ïàðàçèòè.

Çàùî âñè÷êè äà ðàáîòÿò çà "ñëàâà"..??? Àç ïðèåìàì, ÷å èìà õîðà, êîèòî íå 
äúðæàò òîëêîâà íà âúïðîñíàòà Ñëàâêà è ðàáîòÿò çà ñîáñòâåíî óäîâîëñòâèå!
Îñâåí òîâà òî÷íî òîâà ðàçáèðàíå ñïîðåä ìåí å îñíîâíî â ñðåäèòå íà 
ñâîáîäíèÿ ñîôòóåð - òàêà äå, íÿêîé îò âàñ çíàå ëè âñè÷êè àâòîðè íà 
ïðîãðàìèòå, êîèòî ïîëçâà? Àêî äà, òî ÿâíî èìà ñëîíñêà ïàìåò :)) 
"Ñëàâàòà" â Ëèíóêñ-ñðåäèòå å íåùî ìíîãî îòíîñèòåëíî è ñ ìíîãî ìàëúê 
"ðàäèóñ íà äåéñòâèå" ;)
Íî èíà÷å ñè ïðàâ - íå òðÿáâàøå òàêà äà ñå çàÿæäàì ñ õàêåðèòå òóê.. 
Ïîíÿêîãà òóê èìà öåííè õàêîâå. Íî ìè äîéäå îòâúòðå, ïîíåæå ÷åñòî å òî÷íî 
îáðàòíîòî.

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Re: lug-bg: Klezz & amavis problem

2002-04-20 Thread Ясен Праматаров

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Áîæå îïàçè... äà íå ïîâÿðâà ÷îâåê...

Êàêúâ âñúùíîñò å ïðîáëåìúò? ×å ÷îâåêúò íå òðÿáâà äà âÿðâà? È çà òîâà 
ìîëèø áîã? Èçâèíè, íî àç êàòî ïèøà íåùî, ñå îáîñíîâàâàì, çà äà íå å 
íóæíî äà ìè ïèøàò ïèñìà ñ î÷åâèäíè âúïðîñè.. Òîçè òâîé îòãîâîð ñàìî 
çàïúëíè îùå ìàëêî êóòèèòå íà îêîëî äâåñòà ÷îâåêà. È, ìîæå áè, òå ïîêàçâà 
êàòî ÷îâåê íà àáñóðäà - ìîëèø Áîã õîðàòà äà íå âÿðâàò.
Íåêà ïèøåì ñìèñëåíî! Àêî èìàø íåùî ïðîòèâ ïèñìàòà ìè ïî òåìàòà çà 
âèðóñà, êàæè êàêâî å. À òàêîâà ïèñìî.. Äîêàòî ãî ÷åòÿõ, õðóïàõ âàôëà è 
íàñìàëêî äà ñå çàäàâÿ ;)

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Re: lug-bg: Klezz & amavis problem

2002-04-20 Thread Stoyan Lekov

shte ti otgovoria prostichko
ama mnogo prostichko, ta da mozhesh da me razberesh

bi li mi obiasnil kakva e faidata da napishesh niakakav worm, a ne da
napishesh edna traffic accounting programa, koiato osven che vyrshi rabota
mozhe da ti dokara i dohodi
bi li mi obiasnil zashto kato "znaesh tolkova" pishesh worms ? a ne si
izpolzvash znaniata niakade drugade ?

i da, zimage e prav

P.S. ako e iskal da moli Bog - shtial e da go napishe s goliama bukva

P.S.S. ako si mislish che tova koeto razbira toi ot programming go e nauchil
Bog/bog - luzhesh se (ne, ne go hvalia - prosto si pravia izvodi ot home
page-to mu)

-Original Message-
From: ßñåí Ïðàìàòàðîâ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 20 Àïðèë 2002 ã. 15:11
Subject: Re: lug-bg: Klezz & amavis problem


>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Áîæå îïàçè... äà íå ïîâÿðâà ÷îâåê...
>
>Êàêúâ âñúùíîñò å ïðîáëåìúò? ×å ÷îâåêúò íå òðÿáâà äà âÿðâà? È çà òîâà
>ìîëèø áîã? Èçâèíè, íî àç êàòî ïèøà íåùî, ñå îáîñíîâàâàì, çà äà íå å
>íóæíî äà ìè ïèøàò ïèñìà ñ î÷åâèäíè âúïðîñè.. Òîçè òâîé îòãîâîð ñàìî
>çàïúëíè îùå ìàëêî êóòèèòå íà îêîëî äâåñòà ÷îâåêà. È, ìîæå áè, òå ïîêàçâà
>êàòî ÷îâåê íà àáñóðäà - ìîëèø Áîã õîðàòà äà íå âÿðâàò.
>Íåêà ïèøåì ñìèñëåíî! Àêî èìàø íåùî ïðîòèâ ïèñìàòà ìè ïî òåìàòà çà
>âèðóñà, êàæè êàêâî å. À òàêîâà ïèñìî.. Äîêàòî ãî ÷åòÿõ, õðóïàõ âàôëà è
>íàñìàëêî äà ñå çàäàâÿ ;)
>
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Re: lug-bg: Klezz & amavis problem

2002-04-20 Thread zimage

On Sat, Apr 20, 2002 at 03:08:10PM +, ßñåí Ïðàìàòàðîâ wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >Áîæå îïàçè... äà íå ïîâÿðâà ÷îâåê...
> 
> Êàêúâ âñúùíîñò å ïðîáëåìúò? ×å ÷îâåêúò íå òðÿáâà äà âÿðâà? È çà òîâà 
> ìîëèø áîã? Èçâèíè, íî àç êàòî ïèøà íåùî, ñå îáîñíîâàâàì, çà äà íå å 
> íóæíî äà ìè ïèøàò ïèñìà ñ î÷åâèäíè âúïðîñè.. Òîçè òâîé îòãîâîð ñàìî 
> çàïúëíè îùå ìàëêî êóòèèòå íà îêîëî äâåñòà ÷îâåêà. È, ìîæå áè, òå ïîêàçâà 
> êàòî ÷îâåê íà àáñóðäà - ìîëèø Áîã õîðàòà äà íå âÿðâàò.
> Íåêà ïèøåì ñìèñëåíî! Àêî èìàø íåùî ïðîòèâ ïèñìàòà ìè ïî òåìàòà çà 
> âèðóñà, êàæè êàêâî å. À òàêîâà ïèñìî.. Äîêàòî ãî ÷åòÿõ, õðóïàõ âàôëà è 
> íàñìàëêî äà ñå çàäàâÿ ;)

Ami... w interes na istinata niamam dumi, s koito da izrazia
vpechatleniata si ot tvoia posting. V obshti linii ideiata e:

Opazil ni bog ot "dostavchici", koito vzemat pari za uslugite si i derat
gorkia izstradal balgarski narod. Vmesto da podariavat dostapa i to
nai-dobre anonymous, za da ne sazdavat izlishni problemi na "hackerite",
pisheshti virusi - vse pak triabva da se grijat za privacyto si horata.

Opazil ni bog sashto taka ot gnusnite pisachi na smislen software deto
vmesto da dokajat, che nikoi ne moje da im poprechi da praviat kakvoto si
iskat chrez pisane na zlovreden kod, se zanimavat s tova da praviat (po
edin ili drug nachin, a poniakoga i sreshtu zaplashtane) jivota na
drugite po-lesen.

I ne na posledno miasto - da ne poviarvash kak taka otkazvat da
proiaviat razbirane pustite mu potrebiteli, koito vmesto da si varshat
obichainata rabota habiat suma ti nervi i sredstva da se spasiavat ot
virusi, opitvashti se da im zadrastiat connection-a (prez sashtite onezi
dostavchici-kojoderi), da im sasipiat dannite i software (napisan ot
sashtite onezi gnusni i zalizani pisachi na polezen software) ili
poniakoga dori da im skapiat hardware... e na tova mu vikam az progress.

Gore-dolu tova se sadarjashe v onui "Áîæå îïàçè... äà íå ïîâÿðâà
÷îâåê..."

Moje bi e polezno da spomena, che dokato chetiah poshtata ti ne shtiah, a
napravo se zadavih... ne ochakvah da sreshtna podobno stanovishte v edin
(ili edna?) LUG ;-)

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Re: lug-bg: Klezz & amavis problem

2002-04-20 Thread Vesselin Kolev

> âúâ âåëèêèòå íè "äîñòàâ÷èöè"!
Mi sigurno i na dostavchik ne si sluchil.. az sam dovolen ot 
dostavchika mi... Rabota s nego na principa na vzaimoizgodno
satrudnichestvo i niamam nito edna prichina dosega da se
oplacha... Naprotiv!

Ili sigurno si mislish, che e lesno da si dostavchik v BG, kadeto
vseki gleda da ti prechi, i kadeto ima zavist i mrysni nomera!?
V BG vseki potrebitel obicha da komentira koi dostavchik kakav
bil. Pyk i se navydiha vsiakakvi psevdospecialisti, deto za DNS
znaiat samo ot priateslki razgovori, a stanaha savetnici na
presidenta po vaprosite na Internet (da si umre chovek da se
hili).

Izobshto si opravi mirogleda ot gledna tochka na realnostite.
napisa mnogo dumi, dostoini za razgovor "na po chaska", no 
ne i za seriozen forum kato tozi

  Az izlizam ot spora, predlagam sashtoto i na drugite

  Pozdravi
Vesselin
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Re: lug-bg: Klezz & amavis problem

2002-04-21 Thread Alexander Velin

On Fri, 19 Apr 2002, Anton Tinchev wrote:

> Abe tva da ne e Linux-ki virus ta revete i se zalvate taka.
> Dokolkot znam napada samo windows-ki mashini taka che vas kvi vi barka

Ostawi gi.. ne useshtat krasotata... :)

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Re: lug-bg: Klezz & amavis problem

2002-04-22 Thread Boris Jordanov

On Sat, 20 Apr 2002 14:47:36 +
ßñåí Ïðàìàòàðîâ wrote:

Ah, zestoko, ne moga da se vuzdurza ot komentar ...

> 
> Ïðîñòî ìèñëÿ, ÷å íå ìîæå äà ñå ìèñëè òàêà ;) Íå ìîæå íÿêîé äà ðåøàâà êîå 
> å ïî-âàæíî, ïî-ïîëåçíî è ò.í. 

Moze, i oshte kak. Po-nadolu kazvash "Moralut e otnositelen ..." Da, i poradi negovata 
otnositelnost ot moja (a taka kakto useshtam neshtata i ne samo moja) gledna tochka 
napisvaneto i razprostranenieto na neshto kato Klezz e bezpolezno, vredno, prochee ... 
V grupata ima nemalko admini, s po njakolko stotin usera deto im visjat, v 
uchrezdenia, firmi ... kudeto vrmeto naistina e pari, i kogato tija useri ne rabotjat 
"shtoto im se skapali komputrite" poznaj morala na admina kakvo mu kazva za virusa, 
negovija avtor i roda mu po zenska linija?

> Òîåñò ìîæå, íî íå å äîáðå - òîòàëèòàðèçúì 
> ìó ñå âèêà. 

S kolegite imame izraz za vutreshna upotreba - "administrativen fashizum" - pravi 
zivota ni po-lek i userite po-shtastlivi (makar i da ne go useshtat prjako) Moze bi i 
porjadkite v armiata sushto sa totalitarizum? Moze bi, ama raboti prosto, predskazuemo 
i pochti bezotkazno.

> Çíàåø, ÷å ïðîáëåìúò íå å îò â÷åðà; àç íå çàùèòàâàõ ïèñà÷èòå 
> íà âèðóñè, ïðîñòî ñå îáàäèõ, çà äà çàùèòÿ ñàìèòå íàñ îò "õâúðëÿíåòî íà 
> êàë íàîêîëî" è äà çàìàæà ñðàìà îò òîâà ïñóâàíå íà âîëÿ ïî àäðåñ íà 
> âñåêè, êîéòî å ìàëêî êðèâ íà àäìèíà. Ïðîáëåìúò å, ÷å íèêîé íÿìà ïðàâî äà 
> ðåøàâà êîå å ïî-ïðàâèëíî, ïî-ïîëåçíî è ò.í. 

VSEKI ima tezi prava, poradi prostata istina, che vseki ima pravo na mnenie. Drug e 
vuprosa imash li pravo da natrapvash mnenieto si ...

> Åäèíñòâåíîòî íåùî, êîåòî 
> ìîæå äà ñå èçìåðè, å ðåçóëòàòíîñòòà! Ìîðàëúò å îòíîñèòåëåí è, ïîâÿðâàéòå 
> ìè (èçñëåäâàë ñúì òàêèâà íåùà..), íàé-÷åñòî å â óñëóãà íà âëàñòòà.. Òîâà 
> îçíà÷àâà, ÷å íå íèå (àç, âèå..) êàçâàìå êîå å ïî-ïðàâèëî è ò.í.! 

Morala e harakteristika na obshtestvoto i se formira ot obshestvoto. Defakto 
obshtestvata se gradjat ot morala. Moralnite normi nabivani ot medii, uchilishte i 
prochee ne e zadulzitelno da budat vuzpriemani sljapo i ot vsichki, no njakoi normi sa 
obshtochoveshki. Cjalata evolucia i choveshkata civilizacia sa vlagane na energia za 
minimizirane na entropiata, organizirane na materiata i energiata i prochee divotii. V 
toja aspekt, neprijazunta kum  razruchenieto e vrodena vuv pochti vseki zrjal 
choveshki individ, kojto pone vednuz v zivota si e vlozil sili i staranie da 
organizira ili suzdade neshto.


> Òîâà ïàê å ïîâúðõíîñòíî.. ñîðè, íî å òàêà.. ÌÎÆÅÍÅÒÎ ñå èçðàçÿâà â 
> ÏÐÀÂÅÍÅ!! À ïðàâåíåòî ìîæå äà áúäå ðàçðóøàâàíå.. Çàùî ìèñëèø, ÷å 
> ðàçðóøàâàíåòî å ëåñíî?!? Ïèòàé Áàêúðäæèåâ çà ìàâçîëåÿ íàïðèìåð :)))

Mozeneto se izrazjava vuv VUZMOZNOSTTA da bude izvursheno neshto. V bulgarskia ezik 
PRAVJA oznachava tvorja, suzdavam i izvurshvam. No aktut na razrushavane v nikakuv 
sluchaj ne e "pravene". Obzalagam se, che moga da te ubija, trjabva li da go izvursha 
za da go dokaza ?!?!? Ne, i to ne zashtoto ne iskam naprimer, a zashtoto moralut mi mi 
kazva "Ne trjabva da go ubivash (osven ako njamash osnovatelna prichina), toj e zivot, 
a zivota e cenen"

> Ïî ñúùàòà ëîãèêà, àç ìèñëÿ, ÷å íÿêîè îò ñóïåð-ïðåâúçíàñÿùèòå ñå àäìèíè 
> ñúùî èçáèâàò êîìïëåêñè è òî ìíîãî ïî-ÿêî, çàùîòî ïðîñòî íå ìîãàò äà ãè 
> èçáèÿò êà÷åñòâåíî.

Smjatash, che e tova? Che kogato njakoj se jadosva i publichno izkazva otnoshenie kum 
majkata na avtora na virusa, shtoto toja virus mu razbiva rabotata, nervite i sunja e 
izbivane na kompleksi? Kompleksi ot kakvo? Kolko ot tezi sysadmini sa 17 godishni 
puberi, ta da im puka osobeno za imidza im pred drugite. Edinstvenoto pole v koeto 
mozem da se konkurirame e zanajata ni, a tam po-dobrite si lichat, na drugite ni 
ostava da gledame, pitame i da se uchim. Bez kofti chuvstva.

> Ïàê êàçâàì, íå ñúì àäâîêàò íà íèêîãî!!
> Ïðîñòî ìè å êîôòè äà ãëåäàì êàê äðóãèòå àäâîêàòñòâàò, áåç äà èìà íóæäà è 
> áåç äà ðàçáèðàò òîâà.. ÿâíî..

Zapochna s tova, che nikoj njama pravo da precenjava, a veche preceni, che pisheshtite 
tuk ne razbirat tova, za koeto pishat...

P.S. Podoziram, che poradi nepravilnia encoding v header-a na tozi mail, citatite, 
koito sa na kirilica, njama da se chetat, sorry, ama sylpheed ne sum go nauchil oshte 
da prashta v 1251. Kakto i da e, komentarite podskazvat kakvo komentiram.


Take care


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Re: lug-bg: Klezz & amavis problem

2002-04-22 Thread Teodor Georgiev



a ne, prosto Mail servera mi e na Linux.
Sendmail. Ta virusa aha aha i da mu ebe maikata.

chovek kato napishe mailq i mozhe da se razreve ot gledkata.

- Original Message -
From: "Anton Tinchev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 8:04 PM
Subject: Re: lug-bg: Klezz & amavis problem


> Abe tva da ne e Linux-ki virus ta revete i se zalvate taka.
> Dokolkot znam napada samo windows-ki mashini taka che vas kvi vi barka
>
> Stoian Mishev wrote:
> >
> > werojatno mnogo sa se sblyskali s toja virus ... dosta moderen :-)
> > polzwam sendmail+amavis+f-prot 3.12, koito raboteha bezuprechno weche 7
meseca.
> > problem:
> > kogato prez server-a minawa poshta zarazena s W32/Klez.H@mm amavisa ne q
zasicha :-(, no ako izkaram attachmant-a f-prota si q otkriwa bez problem
> > nqkoj sprawil li se e s toja virus?
> >
> > --
> > Stoian Mishev
> > Internet Administraror, Dolphin-3 BG.
> > e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > ICQ #: 5079105
> > GSM: +359-88-435168
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Re: lug-bg: Klezz & amavis problem

2002-04-22 Thread Teodor Georgiev


- Original Message -
From: "Georgi Chorbadzhiyski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 5:55 PM
Subject: Re: lug-bg: Klezz & amavis problem


> Teodor Georgiev wrote:
> > da mu ebem bash maika vo usta na toq, deto go e pisal virusa.
> > kakto doidoh na work ot komandirovka i tuka beshe uzhas.
> >
> > tova sa razni kreteni, deto si nqmat rabota po cql den i si choplqt
nosa.
>
> Super gotin virus, mnogo me kefi! Ako niakoga se zapoznaia s avtora ima
> goliama pocherpka ot men.
>

Bulgar! Bulgar! (Aleko Konstantinov)




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Re: lug-bg: Klezz & amavis problem

2002-04-22 Thread jason_pramik

On Mon, Apr 22, 2002 at 10:23:46AM +0300, Boris Jordanov wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Apr 2002 14:47:36 ßñåí Ïðàìàòàðîâ wrote:
> 
> Ah, zestoko, ne moga da se vuzdurza ot komentar ...
> 
>> Ïðîñòî ìèñëÿ, ÷å íå ìîæå äà ñå ìèñëè òàêà ;) Íå ìîæå íÿêîé äà ðåøàâà êîå 
>> å ïî-âàæíî, ïî-ïîëåçíî è ò.í. 
> 
> Moze, i oshte kak. Po-nadolu kazvash "Moralut e otnositelen ..." Da, i poradi 
>negovata otnositelnost ot moja (a taka kakto useshtam neshtata i ne samo moja) 
>gledna tochka napisvaneto i razprostranenieto na neshto kato Klezz e 
>bezpolezno, vredno, prochee ... V grupata ima nemalko admini, s po njakolko 
>stotin usera deto im visjat, v uchrezdenia, firmi ... kudeto vrmeto naistina e 
>pari, i kogato tija useri ne rabotjat "shtoto im se skapali komputrite" poznaj 
>morala na admina kakvo mu kazva za virusa, negovija avtor i roda mu po zenska 
>linija?

 Ìîðàëúò íå å "íà àäìèíà", à "íà àäìèíèòå". Äðóãîòî å ëè÷íàòà ìó õàêåðñêà 
åòèêà - äà ó÷è, äà íå ïðå÷è è äà ïîìàãà íà äðóãèòå äà ó÷àò è ò.í.
 
>> Òîåñò ìîæå, íî íå å äîáðå - òîòàëèòàðèçúì ìó ñå âèêà. 
> 
> S kolegite imame izraz za vutreshna upotreba - "administrativen fashizum" - 
>pravi zivota ni po-lek i userite po-shtastlivi (makar i da ne go useshtat 
>prjako) Moze bi i porjadkite v armiata sushto sa totalitarizum? Moze bi, ama 
>raboti prosto, predskazuemo i pochti bezotkazno.

 Àìè òî è íà Õèòëåð æèâîòúò ìó áè áèë ïî-òåæè÷úê, àêî íå áåøå 
íàöèîíàëñîöèàëèçìà ñ íåãîâèòå ïðîïàãàíäà, Ãåñòàïî è ò.í. À ïúê àç íå çíàì íà 
íÿêîé äà ìó ñå å ÷óë ãëàñåöúò, ÷å ìíîãî-ìíîãî íå å "ùàñòëèâ"... :( Àðìèÿ, 
êàçâàø... Äà... àìà ñðàâíåíèåòî ñ ïðîãðàìèðàíå è èíòåðíåò íÿêàê ìè ñå 
èçïëúçâà...

>> Çíàåø, ÷å ïðîáëåìúò íå å îò â÷åðà; àç íå çàùèòàâàõ ïèñà÷èòå 
>> íà âèðóñè, ïðîñòî ñå îáàäèõ, çà äà çàùèòÿ ñàìèòå íàñ îò "õâúðëÿíåòî íà 
>> êàë íàîêîëî" è äà çàìàæà ñðàìà îò òîâà ïñóâàíå íà âîëÿ ïî àäðåñ íà 
>> âñåêè, êîéòî å ìàëêî êðèâ íà àäìèíà. Ïðîáëåìúò å, ÷å íèêîé íÿìà ïðàâî äà 
>> ðåøàâà êîå å ïî-ïðàâèëíî, ïî-ïîëåçíî è ò.í. 
> 
> VSEKI ima tezi prava, poradi prostata istina, che vseki ima pravo na mnenie. 
>Drug e vuprosa imash li pravo da natrapvash mnenieto si ...

 ÄÀ! È çàòîâà ñå îïèòàõ äà ñè êàæà ìîåòî ìíåíèå! Ïî-äîáðå ëè å äà êàæåì íåùî è
ñëåä íÿêîëêî ïîñòà äà äîáàâèì "ìîì÷åòà, íåêà çàêðèåì òåìàòà" è àêî íÿêîé ïàê ÿ 
îòâîðè: "ååå, ñòèãà, åãàòè ñïàìàäæèÿòà..." Àç íå íàòðàïâàì ìíåíèåòî ñè íà 
íèêîãî - ñàìèÿò ôàêò, ÷å ìè îòãîâàðÿòå ñî÷è, ÷å íÿìàì òàêàâà âúçìîæíîñò (è 
ïî-äîáðå;)
 
>> Åäèíñòâåíîòî íåùî, êîåòî 
>> ìîæå äà ñå èçìåðè, å ðåçóëòàòíîñòòà! Ìîðàëúò å îòíîñèòåëåí è, ïîâÿðâàéòå 
>> ìè (èçñëåäâàë ñúì òàêèâà íåùà..), íàé-÷åñòî å â óñëóãà íà âëàñòòà.. Òîâà 
>> îçíà÷àâà, ÷å íå íèå (àç, âèå..) êàçâàìå êîå å ïî-ïðàâèëî è ò.í.! 
> 
> Morala e harakteristika na obshtestvoto i se formira ot obshestvoto. Defakto 
>obshtestvata se gradjat ot morala. Moralnite normi nabivani ot medii, 
>uchilishte i prochee ne e zadulzitelno da budat vuzpriemani sljapo i ot 
>vsichki, no njakoi normi sa obshtochoveshki. Cjalata evolucia i choveshkata 
>civilizacia sa vlagane na energia za minimizirane na entropiata, organizirane 
>na materiata i energiata i prochee divotii. V toja aspekt, neprijazunta kum  
>razruchenieto e vrodena vuv pochti vseki zrjal choveshki individ, kojto pone 
>vednuz v zivota si e vlozil sili i staranie da organizira ili suzdade neshto.

 Äà, áåç ìîðàë íå ìîæå îáùåñòâîòî, ÎÊ! Îáà÷å àç èñêàì äà ðàçáèðàì òîçè ìîðàë, 
äà ñúì íàÿñíî ñ íåãîâàòà íåîáõîäèìîñò è àêî ÿ íÿìà, äà íàìåðÿ äðóã (ïðîñòî 
ïðèìåð;). À _ðàçáèðàíåòî_ íà íåùî âêëþ÷âà íåãîâîòî _ïîêàçâàíå_. Ò.å. àç ñå 
îïèòàõ äà ïîêàæà, ÷å òàçè ñëàáà "ìîðàëíà ëîãèêà" (òå ñà êîôòè, äà ãè íà***) 
ïðîñòî íå ðàáîòè. Ðàçáèðàø ëè, ñ âñè÷êî ñúì ñúãëàñåí, ñàìî íå ñ åäíîñòðàí÷èâîòî
ìèñëåíå â (ïðåêàëåíî ìàëêî) øàáëîíè. (NB: íå âèçèðàì íèêîãî êîíêðåòíî, íå èñêàì
äà òðúãâàìå äà ñïîðèì çà òîâà) Ñàìèÿò ñïîð òðúãíà îòòàì - àç îïèòàõ äà äàì 
îáðàòíà ãëåäíà òî÷êà, çà äà íå âúçïðèåìàò õîðàòà âñè÷êî åäíîñòðàííî è â 
÷åðíî-áÿëà - "áåëèòå ñìå íèå, äîáðèòå, âñè÷êî ÷åðíî - ïî äÿâîëèòå"...

>> Òîâà ïàê å ïîâúðõíîñòíî.. ñîðè, íî å òàêà.. ÌÎÆÅÍÅÒÎ ñå èçðàçÿâà â 
>> ÏÐÀÂÅÍÅ!! À ïðàâåíåòî ìîæå äà áúäå ðàçðóøàâàíå.. Çàùî ìèñëèø, ÷å 
>> ðàçðóøàâàíåòî å ëåñíî?!? Ïèòàé Áàêúðäæèåâ çà ìàâçîëåÿ íàïðèìåð :)))
> 
> Mozeneto se izrazjava vuv VUZMOZNOSTTA da bude izvursheno neshto. V 
>bulgarskia ezik PRAVJA oznachava tvorja, suzdavam i izvurshvam. No aktut na 
>razrushavane v nikakuv sluchaj ne e "pravene". Obzalagam se, che moga da te 
>ubija, trjabva li da go izvursha za da go dokaza ?!?!? Ne, i to ne zashtoto ne 
>iskam naprimer, a zashtoto moralut mi mi kazva "Ne trjabva da go ubivash 
>(osven ako njamash osnovatelna prichina), toj e zivot, a zivota e cenen"

 Êàçàõ, ÷å "ñå èçðàçÿâà", ïîëó÷àâà èçðàç. "Îñúùåñòâÿâàíåòî" íà ìîæåíåòî å 
ïðàâåíåòî, äåéñòâèåòî. Òîâà èìàõ ïðåäâèä ;)
 
>> Ïî ñúùàòà ëîãèêà, àç ìèñëÿ, ÷å íÿêîè îò ñóïåð-ïðåâúçíàñÿùèòå ñå àäìèíè 
>> ñúùî èçáèâàò êîìïëåêñè è òî 

Re: lug-bg: Klezz & amavis problem

2002-04-22 Thread Boris Jordanov

On Mon, 22 Apr 2002 16:44:48 +0300
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


> 
> Ï.Ï.: Áÿõ ñå îòêàçàë äà îòãîâàðÿì ïî òåìàòà, íî òâîåòî ïèñìî ìå ïðîâîêèðà.
> Ìèñëÿ, ÷å ãîâîðèì çà åäíî è ñúùî íåùî, òîâà, êîåòî íè ïðîòèâîïîñòàâÿ, å 
> îòíîøåíèåòî êúì êîíêðåòíèÿ ñëó÷àé. Àç áÿõ ïîäðàçíåí îò îòíîøåíèåòî.. Ãîòîâ ñúì
> äà ñïðà îòãîâîðèòå ñè ïî òåìàòà - ìèñëÿ, ÷å äîñòàòú÷íî ñå èçÿñíèõ ;) Å, ðàçáèð
> ñå, íå ñïèðàì íèêîãî äà ìè îòãîâàðÿ ;)

OK, i az puskam kepencite, imam dostatuhno material za osmisljane.

Take care


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Re: lug-bg: Klezz & amavis problem

2002-04-22 Thread Georgi Chorbadzhiyski

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 22, 2002 at 10:23:46AM +0300, Boris Jordanov wrote:
> 
>>On Sat, 20 Apr 2002 14:47:36 ßñåí Ïðàìàòàðîâ wrote:
>>
>>Ah, zestoko, ne moga da se vuzdurza ot komentar ...
>>
>>
>>>Ïðîñòî ìèñëÿ, ÷å íå ìîæå äà ñå ìèñëè òàêà ;) Íå ìîæå íÿêîé äà ðåøàâà êîå 
>>>å ïî-âàæíî, ïî-ïîëåçíî è ò.í. 
>>
>>Moze, i oshte kak. Po-nadolu kazvash "Moralut e otnositelen ..." Da, i poradi 
>>negovata otnositelnost ot moja (a taka kakto useshtam neshtata i ne samo moja) 
>>gledna tochka napisvaneto i razprostranenieto na neshto kato Klezz e 
>>bezpolezno, vredno, prochee ... V grupata ima nemalko admini, s po njakolko 
>>stotin usera deto im visjat, v uchrezdenia, firmi ... kudeto vrmeto naistina e 
>>pari, i kogato tija useri ne rabotjat "shtoto im se skapali komputrite" poznaj 
>>morala na admina kakvo mu kazva za virusa, negovija avtor i roda mu po zenska 
>>linija?
> 
> 
>  Ìîðàëúò íå å "íà àäìèíà", à "íà àäìèíèòå". Äðóãîòî å ëè÷íàòà ìó õàêåðñêà 
> åòèêà - äà ó÷è, äà íå ïðå÷è è äà ïîìàãà íà äðóãèòå äà ó÷àò è ò.í.
>  
> 
>>>Òîåñò ìîæå, íî íå å äîáðå - òîòàëèòàðèçúì ìó ñå âèêà. 
>>
>>S kolegite imame izraz za vutreshna upotreba - "administrativen fashizum" - 
>>pravi zivota ni po-lek i userite po-shtastlivi (makar i da ne go useshtat 
>>prjako) Moze bi i porjadkite v armiata sushto sa totalitarizum? Moze bi, ama 
>>raboti prosto, predskazuemo i pochti bezotkazno.
> 
> 
>  Àìè òî è íà Õèòëåð æèâîòúò ìó áè áèë ïî-òåæè÷úê, àêî íå áåøå 
> íàöèîíàëñîöèàëèçìà ñ íåãîâèòå ïðîïàãàíäà, Ãåñòàïî è ò.í. À ïúê àç íå çíàì íà 
> íÿêîé äà ìó ñå å ÷óë ãëàñåöúò, ÷å ìíîãî-ìíîãî íå å "ùàñòëèâ"... :( Àðìèÿ, 
> êàçâàø... Äà... àìà ñðàâíåíèåòî ñ ïðîãðàìèðàíå è èíòåðíåò íÿêàê ìè ñå 
> èçïëúçâà...

Mdaa...

http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/jargon/html/entry/Godwin's-Law.html

Haide s tova da zakriem temata...


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Re: lug-bg: Klezz & amavis problem

2002-04-23 Thread Boris Jordanov

On Tue, 23 Apr 2002 10:18:38 +0300
Peter Georgiev wrote:

 
> Quick & Dirty hack da nakarash sylpheed da prashta v windows-1251:
> 

10x a lot amigo :) shte go napravja :))

Take care


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Re: lug-bg: Klezz & amavis problem

2002-04-23 Thread Peter Georgiev

On Mon, 22 Apr 2002 10:23:46 +0300
Boris Jordanov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> P.S. Podoziram, che poradi nepravilnia encoding v header-a na tozi mail,
> citatite, koito sa na kirilica, njama da se chetat, sorry, ama sylpheed
> ne sum go nauchil oshte da prashta v 1251. Kakto i da e, komentarite
> podskazvat kakvo komentiram.

Quick & Dirty hack da nakarash sylpheed da prashta v windows-1251:

Redaktirash sylpheed-x.x.x/src/compose.c i promeniash slednite stringove:

"Content-Type: text/plain; charset=%s\n" promeniash na
"Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251\n"

kakto i 

"Content-Transfer-Encoding: %s\n" promeniash na 
"Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit\n"

prekompilirash i si gotov. Malko grozno, no raboti.

HTH Pesho
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