lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :)
Mojebi tova ste e interesno za vsichki izpolzvasti RedHat AS.Az lichno imam niakolko Servera s oficialno zakupen ot RedHat paket i ne sam mnogo stastliv ot vidianoto http://www.kerneltrap.org/node-592.html emo __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 27 February 2003 15:43, emo terziev wrote: Mojebi tova ste e interesno za vsichki izpolzvasti RedHat AS.Az lichno imam niakolko Servera s oficialno zakupen ot RedHat paket i ne sam mnogo stastliv ot vidianoto Ne hvastam idejata, v posochenata statia AS e sukrastenie ot Anticipatory Scheduler. Kude e vruzkata s Advanced Server? Take care Boris Jordanov (borj) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ 10751645 PGP-key-fingerprint:-- CB23 8B52 5FBC F36A 1B61 F1ED 2831 E52D AAFF 7B08 - -- Public-key:--- http://borj.freeshell.org/borj.asc - -- To err is human... to really foul up requires the root password. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+XhlgKDHlLar/ewgRAhZAAJ9UWoCPmQTq0ogLxpRrgqWFfyIR/wCgos3B 3nu3Ya9aGXKRUzHDnKmH/k4= =+qdS -END PGP SIGNATURE- A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
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Da ne goworim the totshno toja kernel (s AS nakraja) pri goliama tshast ot operatsiie e dosta po-napred pred drugite tri!!! Regards: Romeo Ninov [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/27/03 03:57 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 27 February 2003 15:43, emo terziev wrote: Mojebi tova ste e interesno za vsichki izpolzvasti RedHat AS.Az lichno imam niakolko Servera s oficialno zakupen ot RedHat paket i ne sam mnogo stastliv ot vidianoto Ne hvastam idejata, v posochenata statia AS e sukrastenie ot Anticipatory Scheduler. Kude e vruzkata s Advanced Server? Take care Boris Jordanov (borj) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ 10751645 PGP-key-fingerprint:-- CB23 8B52 5FBC F36A 1B61 F1ED 2831 E52D AAFF 7B08 - -- Public-key:--- http://borj.freeshell.org/borj.asc - -- To err is human... to really foul up requires the root password. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+XhlgKDHlLar/ewgRAhZAAJ9UWoCPmQTq0ogLxpRrgqWFfyIR/wCgos3B 3nu3Ya9aGXKRUzHDnKmH/k4= =+qdS -END PGP SIGNATURE- A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :)
Zasto ne prestane tazi discusia, prosto mneniat sa strasno subectivni i povyrhnostni. Po-dobre discusiata da se razdeli na pod -temi primerno za , protiv i alternativi na RH Cluster Manager ili za, protiv i alternativi na (RHN Enterprise Service ). Osven tova nalichni li sa drugi certified product za Oracle, IBM Websphere, Bea Weblogic i drugi enterprise producti? Az njamam nisto protiv pravoto na mnenie, no prosto ne mislja che ima drug linux product kojato firma ot Top 1000 bi dopusna, osven tova Serverite sa obiknovenno certificirani samo za RHAS. I tova e problema nikoj ne pita koj Linux e po-dobyr, prosto vseki pita na koj linux e garantirano che Oracle ili Sybase primerno ste raboti, ili kakvo e grantirano che ste raboti na tozi Server otivash na site im kakvo vijdash predimno RH, tova e. Boris Jordanov wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 27 February 2003 15:43, emo terziev wrote: Mojebi tova ste e interesno za vsichki izpolzvasti RedHat AS.Az lichno imam niakolko Servera s oficialno zakupen ot RedHat paket i ne sam mnogo stastliv ot vidianoto Ne hvastam idejata, v posochenata statia AS e sukrastenie ot Anticipatory Scheduler. Kude e vruzkata s Advanced Server? Take care Boris Jordanov (borj) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ 10751645 PGP-key-fingerprint:-- CB23 8B52 5FBC F36A 1B61 F1ED 2831 E52D AAFF 7B08 - -- Public-key:--- http://borj.freeshell.org/borj.asc - -- To err is human... to really foul up requires the root password. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+XhlgKDHlLar/ewgRAhZAAJ9UWoCPmQTq0ogLxpRrgqWFfyIR/wCgos3B 3nu3Ya9aGXKRUzHDnKmH/k4= =+qdS -END PGP SIGNATURE- A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 27 February 2003 17:15, Valentin Tzankov wrote: Zasto ne prestane tazi discusia, prosto mneniat sa strasno subectivni i povyrhnostni. Sled kraja na tvoja posting sledvashe citiran moja posleden. Priemam, che vizirash nego. Ti prochete li tova na koeto otgovarjam? A tova koeto pitah? Az prosto ne vidjah vruzkata sus Advanced Server, a e postnato pod sustia topic! Defacto tova ne e chast ot diskusiata pod chiito topic vse oste sme. Ama choveka taka go pusna. Izvinjavaj, che ne mi stana jasno. Na nesta koito ne sa mi jasni za v budeste ste si mulcha. - -- Take care Boris Jordanov (borj) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ 10751645 PGP-key-fingerprint:-- CB23 8B52 5FBC F36A 1B61 F1ED 2831 E52D AAFF 7B08 - -- Public-key:--- http://borj.freeshell.org/borj.asc - -- To err is human... to really foul up requires the root password. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+XjFVKDHlLar/ewgRAiTyAJ49ZA6ZYDX3BXENVsNFGMceuHKAKgCgkTiw LIs2zpQeeYRo4nDfDbrNs98= =OzYL -END PGP SIGNATURE- A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
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Izvinjavaj vizirah ne tvoja posting a predisnia, prosto na i slednite dumi na Emo Terziev bjaha naj-otgore i tova me zabludi. Mojebi tova ste e interesno za vsichki izpolzvasti RedHat AS.Az lichno imam niakolko Servera s oficialno zakupen ot RedHat paket i ne sam mnogo stastliv ot vidianoto -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 27 February 2003 17:15, Valentin Tzankov wrote: Zasto ne prestane tazi discusia, prosto mneniat sa strasno subectivni i povyrhnostni. Sled kraja na tvoja posting sledvashe citiran moja posleden. Priemam, che vizirash nego. Ti prochete li tova na koeto otgovarjam? A tova koeto pitah? Az prosto ne vidjah vruzkata sus Advanced Server, a e postnato pod sustia topic! Defacto tova ne e chast ot diskusiata pod chiito topic vse oste sme. Ama choveka taka go pusna. Izvinjavaj, che ne mi stana jasno. Na nesta koito ne sa mi jasni za v budeste ste si mulcha. - -- Take care Boris Jordanov (borj) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ 10751645 PGP-key-fingerprint:-- CB23 8B52 5FBC F36A 1B61 F1ED 2831 E52D AAFF 7B08 - -- Public-key:--- http://borj.freeshell.org/borj.asc - -- To err is human... to really foul up requires the root password. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+XjFVKDHlLar/ewgRAiTyAJ49ZA6ZYDX3BXENVsNFGMceuHKAKgCgkTiw LIs2zpQeeYRo4nDfDbrNs98= =OzYL -END PGP SIGNATURE- A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
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On Thu, 27 Feb 2003, Valentin Tzankov wrote: na koj linux e garantirano che Oracle ili Sybase primerno ste raboti, , , . :) happy hacking, velin A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
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Gluposti,gluposti gluposti...
: Romeo Ninov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
: Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :)
: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
: 2003-02-27 16:49:51.0
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Da ne goworim the totshno toja kernel (s AS nakraja) pri goliama tshast ot
operatsiie e dosta po-napred pred drugite tri!!!
Regards: Romeo Ninov
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/27/03 03:57
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On Thursday 27 February 2003 15:43, emo terziev wrote:
Mojebi tova ste e interesno za vsichki
izpolzvasti RedHat AS.Az lichno
imam niakolko Servera s oficialno zakupen ot RedHat
paket i ne sam mnogo stastliv ot vidianoto
Ne hvastam idejata, v posochenata statia AS e sukrastenie ot
Anticipatory Scheduler. Kude e vruzkata s Advanced Server?
Take care
Boris Jordanov (borj) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ICQ 10751645
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On Monday 24 February 2003 16:42, Teodor Georgiev wrote: na rabota. Kakvo li shte stane ako utre na Alan Cox i drugite im pisne i kazhat - aide mainata vi, ot utre koito iska kernela, shte si plashta. , kernel- GPL , ,.RMS ( HURD ). Free Software . (- RMS ). , A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
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, 2003-02-25 10:09, Victor Senderov : On Monday 24 February 2003 16:42, Teodor Georgiev wrote: na rabota. Kakvo li shte stane ako utre na Alan Cox i drugite im pisne i kazhat - aide mainata vi, ot utre koito iska kernela, shte si plashta. , kernel- GPL , ,.RMS ( HURD ). Free Software . (- RMS ). GPL - . - . , A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
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On Monday 24 February 2003 11:01, Boris Jordanov wrote: Da, stoto KDE people ne im haresa, che RH unificiraha vunsnia vid na KDE i Gnome (dokolkoto e vuzmozno) v RH8. Smeshna rabota. . KDE . (..KDE), ,., KDE RedHat, GNOME -, RedHat- KDE ., KDE. : : breakages, .. ,- Font Installer. http://www.mosfet.org/noredhat.html , A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Pak dyvchem vafli i pliuem mnogo trohi kato govorim s pylna usta... Tozi link si e dosta pristrasten i avtorite mu stradat or silno razvita fobia. Sys syshtia uspeh mozhe da se napishe i .../nomandrake.html .../nodebian.html .../noslackware.html .../no_kakvoto_vi_hrumne.html Mislia, che celta na tozi list e da obediniava horata raboteshti pod LINUX, a ne da gi razdeiniava na principa Ti polzvash edin kakva si distribucia, znachi si glupak.. zashtoto ima samo edna syvyrshena distribucia i tia e nananana... Tova sa pylni gluposti i nedoizhivian pubertet. Chovek izpolzva tova, koeto mu vyrshi rabota i mu haresva. Osven tova se nauchete da cenite truda na drugite i prestanete da prenasiate atmosferata na tribunite na stadionite i tuk s ovikvania i prestanete s citirania na ne do tam verni iztochnici i ne prenasiaite lichnite fobii tuk. Edin ot malkoto kompetentni otgovori po vyprosa beshe na Boris Jordanov. Dostoen za pylno syzhalenie e facta, che toi ostana nerazbran. A pri tova e chovek s ogromen opit i mozhete da se uchite ot nego na mnogo mnogo neshta, a ne da liupite semki da go osvirkvate. Nikoi ne vi kara da polzvate edna ili druga distribucia. Kato ne iskate RH ne go polzvate i tolkova. Ami po syshtata logika mozhe da byde opliuta vsiaka edna distribucia. I ako ne traibva da polzvame tova, koeto e opliuto, to mai.. ne ostava kakvo da polzvame. Molia vi, nedeite da prevryshtame lista v mezhduselski sybor... Pozdravi i pozhelania za uspeh da vsichki Vesselin Kolev -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+Wy+i+48lZPXaa+MRAh0LAKCGEVr3ULuoWVR29cUTluQ4j9u+kACeOysb 3Vi5LPrmWBUM+PSsj68spRc= =5A2Y -END PGP SIGNATURE- A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 25 February 2003 10:18, Victor Senderov wrote: . KDE . (.. KDE), , ., Nima? I promenite gi njama v SRPM? Kakto veche beshe spomenato RH sa osnoven igrach pri Gnome. V tozi smisuk KDE e nesto kato konkurenten produkt. Vupreki tova toj e vkluchen v distribuciata. I sled kato RH developers ne razbirat ot KDE i pravjat kalpavi promeni po nego, zasto da gi objavjavat, za da razvaljat imidza na KDE? Tova zvuchi neseriozno. KDE team ne sa njakakvi god like creatures. Ima si license i tam pishe kakvo i kak moze. I stom RH iskat da modificirat... KDE RedHat, GNOME -, RedHat- KDE ., Az polzvam RH8. Desktop-a mi e KDE. Redhat-sko KDE. KDE.: : breakages, .. , - Font Installer. http://www.mosfet.org/noredhat.html Mosfet li e authority? :) Che toj se otdeli i ot KDE team-a, stoto imaha raznoglasia za liquid. Ot togava na sam vse se zavrusta i kato ne mu haresa nesto pak pravi sapuneni operi i napuska. - -- Take care Boris Jordanov (borj) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ 10751645 PGP-key-fingerprint:-- CB23 8B52 5FBC F36A 1B61 F1ED 2831 E52D AAFF 7B08 - -- Public-key:--- http://borj.freeshell.org/borj.asc - -- To err is human... to really foul up requires the root password. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+WzEqKDHlLar/ewgRAhsvAJ0QH3d7apzRiAVHgXaiJw2NbzmUMgCglNRd ELVp+tSu+7VFVC8j29hLbEQ= =7Y6t -END PGP SIGNATURE- A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
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svetla wrote: vij rh ne predlagat nishto koeto go niama i free razbirash li...prosto se opitvat i da manipulirat kato te obejdavat che kato si go kupish ti pritejavash neshto koeto ne mojesh da imash otdrugate. docs i support, koeto defakto si go imash online..a kolkoto do orig. cd i blia blia blia ...tova e niakva gazaria..nenujna pri tova Naricha se *MARKETING* -- Georgi Chorbadzhiyski http://georgi.unixsol.org/ A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
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svetla wrote: vij rh ne predlagat nishto koeto go niama i free razbirash li...prosto se opitvat i da manipulirat kato te obejdavat che kato si go kupish ti pritejavash neshto koeto ne mojesh da imash otdrugate. docs i support, koeto defakto si go imash online..a kolkoto do orig. cd i blia blia blia ...tova e niakva gazaria..nenujna pri tova 0 2 4 6 8 10 / / / / / / / TROLL-O-METER Thanks to Rik van Riel -- Georgi Chorbadzhiyski http://georgi.unixsol.org/ A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
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On Tuesday 25 February 2003 09:55, Vesselin Kolev wrote: Pak dyvchem vafli i pliuem mnogo trohi kato govorim s pylna usta... , . , , ,, , - ! Tozi link si e dosta pristrasten i avtorite mu stradat or silno razvita fobia. . Sys syshtia uspeh mozhe da se napishe i .../nomandrake.html .../nodebian.html .../noslackware.html .../no_kakvoto_vi_hrumne.html ,,RedHat, ,. Mislia, che celta na tozi list e da obediniava horata raboteshti pod LINUX, a ne da gi razdeiniava na principa Ti polzvash edin kakva si distribucia, znachi si glupak.. zashtoto ima samo edna syvyrshena distribucia i tia e nananana... Tova sa pylni gluposti i nedoizhivian pubertet. Chovek izpolzva tova, koeto mu vyrshi rabota i mu haresva. . , . KDE,KDE team, RedHat , . Osven tova se nauchete da cenite truda na drugite i prestanete da prenasiate atmosferata na tribunite na stadionite i tuk s ovikvania i prestanete s citirania na ne do tam verni iztochnici i ne prenasiaite lichnite fobii tuk. , . , . RedHat ( ), KDE! Edin ot malkoto kompetentni otgovori po vyprosa beshe na Boris Jordanov. Dostoen za pylno syzhalenie e facta, che toi ostana nerazbran. A pri tova e chovek s ogromen opit i mozhete da se uchite ot nego na mnogo mnogo neshta, a ne da liupite semki da go osvirkvate. , , , . Nikoi ne vi kara da polzvate edna ili druga distribucia. Kato ne iskate RH ne go polzvate i tolkova. Ami po syshtata logika mozhe da byde opliuta vsiaka edna distribucia. I ako ne traibva da polzvame tova, koeto e opliuto, to mai.. ne ostava kakvo da polzvame. . , ? , ., . ? Molia vi, nedeite da prevryshtame lista v mezhduselski sybor... . thread , .flamewar- . flamewar, ,. ... , A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
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On Tuesday 25 February 2003 10:02, Boris Jordanov wrote: On Tuesday 25 February 2003 10:18, Victor Senderov wrote: . KDE . (..KDE), , ., Nima? I promenite gi njama v SRPM? Kakto veche beshe spomenato RH sa osnoven igrach pri Gnome. V tozi smisuk KDE e nesto kato konkurenten produkt. Vupreki tova toj e vkluchen v distribuciata. I sled kato RH developers ne razbirat ot KDE i pravjat kalpavi promeni po nego, zasto da gi objavjavat, za da razvaljat imidza na KDE? KDE. GPL split- . , , . Tova zvuchi neseriozno. KDE team ne sa njakakvi god like creatures. Ima si license i tam pishe kakvo i kak moze. I stom RH iskat da modificirat... . KDE RedHat , GNOME -, RedHat- KDE ., Az polzvam RH8. Desktop-a mi e KDE. Redhat-sko KDE. ?3.1 kde.org. KDE.: : breakages, .. ,- Font Installer. http://www.mosfet.org/noredhat.html Mosfet li e authority? :) Che toj se otdeli i ot KDE team-a, stoto imaha raznoglasia za liquid. Ot togava na sam vse se zavrusta i kato ne mu haresa nesto pak pravi sapuneni operi i napuska. ,. authority kde ( ) . , packages ( ) RedHat 8.0 KDE 3.1 , KDE RedHat, . , A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
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Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 23 February 2003 19:57, Peter An. Zyumbilev wrote: Ste ti dam primer: http://www.sap.com/linux Predlgat democd za Sap Basis chasta ot SAP R/3 za linux Tova zhivotno po princip varvi i na obiknoven linux(trudno-tonove problemi) no za da vidish kak realno stavat nestata ti triabva: SLES(Suse Linux Enterprise Server) http://www.suse.com/sles ili RedHat Advanced Server http://www.redhat.com/software/advancedserver/ Az ako iskam da si testvam vkasti za da si razvia znanie i umeniata.? Kkav korporativen klinet sam ? A kakvo ste klatish vkusti sus SAP be pich? Koj maloumnik ste trugne da si igrae vkusti sus SAP, OSVEN ako njama klient za nego? Da si vizdal domashni SAP clienti? Oste ne sum prochel taja diskusia dokraja i veche ne sum siguren dali iskam da go napravja. OK, vsichki sme polzvali warez. OK, bedni sme,no: - - VSEKI kojto e hvurlil trud i vreme za da izgradi nesto ima pulnoto pravo da iska otplata za nego. - - Lipsata na pari da kupish nesto _NE_E_ opravdanie da go otkradnesh, i ako go napravish vse pak _AMA_NIKAK_NE_E_OPRAVDANIE_ da trubish - njamam, zatova ste krada, ja njakoi ako go ima da mi go dade, a? - - Tova _NE_E_ warez list, zatova iskah moderirane! I pak go iskam. - -- Take care Boris Jordanov (borj) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ 10751645 PGP-key-fingerprint:-- CB23 8B52 5FBC F36A 1B61 F1ED 2831 E52D AAFF 7B08 - -- Public-key:--- http://borj.freeshell.org/borj.asc - -- To err is human... to really foul up requires the root password. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+Wei6KDHlLar/ewgRArhQAKCWG4aiI1fUvd2F7oD9F+AMwa0l7QCfYZyM nVkfT5Www2o2HNA3xoPbW7E= =grPJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 23 February 2003 09:26, Ivaylo Toshev wrote: RedHat imat 6 kernel-developeri i niakolko dushi pisheshti tehnite si prilojenia. Ako se zavurtish po forumite shte vidish che NISHTO KOETO REDHAT sa promenili po kernela, gnome, kamo li puk KDE NE E SUBMITNATO OBRATNO na suotvetnite proekti ! Bullshit. Trjabva da imat hurd of developers li? Linus maj go pravi sam. A da imash ideja koj plasta zaplatata na Alan Cox? - -- Take care Boris Jordanov (borj) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ 10751645 PGP-key-fingerprint:-- CB23 8B52 5FBC F36A 1B61 F1ED 2831 E52D AAFF 7B08 - -- Public-key:--- http://borj.freeshell.org/borj.asc - -- To err is human... to really foul up requires the root password. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+WetJKDHlLar/ewgRAoSBAJ9FI24FfMZJv+PciuPmyFCdoAd1mgCgns6E VocxsMiqOUTsql954gInV0c= =gSkw -END PGP SIGNATURE- A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :)
George Danchev wrote: On 24 02 2003 11:31, Tsvetin Vasilev wrote: :) Oswen towa az naprimer syshto si imam piratska wersiaja na AS, w momenta nikyde ne e instalirana, no si ja izdrypah za da widia kak se prawi cluster spored RH, nedej da piratirash RH ;-) .. Eto naprimer: Advantages of OpenMosix on IBM xSeries (may be wrapped) http://www-1.ibm.com/servers/esdd/articles/openmosix.html?t=gr,lnxw02=OpenMosix1 http://www-1.ibm.com/servers/esdd/articles/openmosixpart2.html?t=gr,lnxw02=OpenMozix2 http://www-1.ibm.com/servers/esdd/articles/openmosixpart3.html?t=gr,lnxw02=OpenMosix3 Gentoo, Debian, etc ... (vnimavajte s dumata enterprice ready;-) Trqbva da se otbelezhi 4e ima nqkolko tipa clusters... IBM i drugi imat i s RH estestveno. E, to beshe w malko sgysteni kraski : Po-skoro imah predwid drypnato bog znae ot kyde :) A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :)
George Danchev wrote: On 24 02 2003 11:31, Tsvetin Vasilev wrote: :) Oswen towa az naprimer syshto si imam piratska wersiaja na AS, w momenta nikyde ne e instalirana, no si ja izdrypah za da widia kak se prawi cluster spored RH, nedej da piratirash RH ;-) .. Eto naprimer: Advantages of OpenMosix on IBM xSeries (may be wrapped) http://www-1.ibm.com/servers/esdd/articles/openmosix.html?t=gr,lnxw02=OpenMosix1 http://www-1.ibm.com/servers/esdd/articles/openmosixpart2.html?t=gr,lnxw02=OpenMozix2 http://www-1.ibm.com/servers/esdd/articles/openmosixpart3.html?t=gr,lnxw02=OpenMosix3 Gentoo, Debian, etc ... (vnimavajte s dumata enterprice ready;-) Trqbva da se otbelezhi 4e ima nqkolko tipa clusters... IBM i drugi imat i s RH estestveno. Malko izbyrzah :) sorry Znachi znam za towa, prosto mi beshe interesno tykmu w AS-a kak e napraweno :) Kato nachalna configuracija docs, abe wsichko w kupom dali e napraweno da e udobno za plzwane. Abe liubopitstwo :) A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :)
A kakvo ste klatish vkusti sus SAP be pich? Koj maloumnik ste trugne da si igrae vkusti sus SAP, OSVEN ako njama klient za nego? Da si vizdal domashni SAP clienti? Che w kyshti moga da si clatia kakwoto si iskam, stiga da mi triawa / da mi e interesno Oste ne sum prochel taja diskusia dokraja i veche ne sum siguren dali iskam da go napravja. OK, vsichki sme polzvali warez. OK, bedni sme,no: Ami to bednostta ne e wazhna, az naprimer si gledah germancite na moreto kak si kupuwat piratski CD i nishto ... ne se i mryshtiha. A i kato se zamislish kolko ot peer-to peer mrezhite sa bg ? Taka che wyobshte ne sym syglasen che fenomena ima nacionalni koreni. - - VSEKI kojto e hvurlil trud i vreme za da izgradi nesto ima pulnoto pravo da iska otplata za nego. syglasen sym - - Lipsata na pari da kupish nesto _NE_E_ opravdanie da go otkradnesh, i ako go napravish vse pak _AMA_NIKAK_NE_E_OPRAVDANIE_ da trubish - njamam, zatova ste krada, ja njakoi ako go ima da mi go dade, a? i s towa sym syglase - - Tova _NE_E_ warez list, absolutno zatova iskah moderirane! I pak go iskam. A sreshtu towa sym protiw Ako niakoj naistina prekali, adminite winagi mogat da mu vkarat e-maila w Anti-SPAM listi :)) A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :)
- Original Message - From: Tsvetin Vasilev [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 11:31 AM Subject: Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :) Towa si e flame no da se otbelezha :) Peter An. Zyumbilev wrote: Edno e produkt da se polzva ot home user i toi da ne si go plati, shtoto produkta e raven na godishnata mu zaplata. Taka che ako Pesho si ima RH AS @home, goliama e werojatnostta toj, ako ne e posleden praznoglawec, da si go poiska i @work A e hubawo da go kupi poradi takiwa prichini kato support updates ...etc. :) Oswen towa az naprimer syshto si imam piratska wersiaja na AS, w momenta nikyde ne e instalirana, no si ja izdrypah za da widia kak se prawi cluster spored RH, tyj da se kazhe, interesno mi e, kakwo shte mi dade AS-a ako si go kupia ? Az pyk iskam da vidia kak rabotiat bankomatite v Bylgaria. Shte otida da si vzema vkyshti 2-3 za test. Ako mi haresat - shte si kupia. Ama otsega da kazha, che shte testvam, testvam, testvam... ama posle NIAMA DA MI HARESA :PPP Kato primer za zakupuwane na netestwan software kojto sym kupuwal ot imeto na firmata za kojato sym rabotil, shte posocha slednite: RAV - super bygaw scener, kojto prosto si beshe zaguba na pari, nikoga ne bih go kupil ako go biah iztestwal predwaritelno, no chowek se uchi. da si go testval be. Horata davat 2 meseca bezplaten test. A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :)
On 24 02 2003 14:18, Tsvetin Vasilev wrote: George Danchev wrote: On 24 02 2003 11:31, Tsvetin Vasilev wrote: :) Oswen towa az naprimer syshto si imam piratska wersiaja na AS, w : momenta nikyde ne e instalirana, no si ja izdrypah za da widia kak se prawi cluster spored RH, nedej da piratirash RH ;-) .. Eto naprimer: Advantages of OpenMosix on IBM xSeries (may be wrapped) http://www-1.ibm.com/servers/esdd/articles/openmosix.html?t=gr,lnxw02=Open Mosix1 http://www-1.ibm.com/servers/esdd/articles/openmosixpart2.html?t=gr,lnxw0 2=OpenMozix2 http://www-1.ibm.com/servers/esdd/articles/openmosixpart3.html?t=gr,lnxw0 2=OpenMosix3 Gentoo, Debian, etc ... (vnimavajte s dumata enterprice ready;-) Trqbva da se otbelezhi 4e ima nqkolko tipa clusters... IBM i drugi imat i s RH estestveno. Malko izbyrzah :) sorry Znachi znam za towa, prosto mi beshe interesno tykmu w AS-a kak e napraweno :) Kato nachalna configuracija docs, abe wsichko w kupom dali e napraweno da e udobno za plzwane. Abe liubopitstwo :) e andzyk de, vsi4ko e w kupom kakto kazvash ... pone za Debian, read carefully:http://danchev.fccf.net/files/debian/debian-book/output/html_files/node29.html P.S. Vasil Kolev i Boyan, eto kak izglezhda built debian-book (star build): http://danchev.fccf.net/files/debian/debian-book/ -- printk(Greets, fr33zb1\n); A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :)
- Original Message - From: Boris Jordanov [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 11:41 AM Subject: Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :) A kakvo ste klatish vkusti sus SAP be pich? Koj maloumnik ste trugne da si igrae vkusti sus SAP, OSVEN ako njama klient za nego? Da si vizdal domashni SAP clienti? Ami kaji kak da vidia kak raboti SAP pod linux ? Stav vapros za testvane na alternativa na Windows 2000 server... Da ida pri shefa i da kaja Abe , shefe dai che iskam malko da si poigraia s edno nesto deto ne znam kakvo e i dali ste mi svarshi rabota ? Pozdravi, BIVOL A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 24 February 2003 13:17, Boris Jordanov wrote: On Monday 24 February 2003 13:07, Peter An. Zyumbilev wrote: Ami kaji kak da vidia kak raboti SAP pod linux ? Stav vapros za testvane na alternativa na Windows 2000 server... Da ida pri shefa i da kaja Abe , shefe dai che iskam malko da si poigraia s edno nesto deto ne znam kakvo e i dali ste mi svarshi rabota ? I sled kato govorim za shefa ti - tova domashno polzvane li se vodi? btw, pitaj SAP, ako ti kazat, che RHAS e poddurzana platforma i te imat clienti s production SAP v/u RHAS - svurzi se s tezi clienti i gi pitaj. - -- Take care Boris Jordanov (borj) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ 10751645 PGP-key-fingerprint:-- CB23 8B52 5FBC F36A 1B61 F1ED 2831 E52D AAFF 7B08 - -- Public-key:--- http://borj.freeshell.org/borj.asc - -- To err is human... to really foul up requires the root password. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+WgBLKDHlLar/ewgRAs7tAJ4g0imo0aREnB9xDOmQVUbaOSi0vgCglUyj McRcBKi6yyFoaq0w5zmFdO0= =ciUf -END PGP SIGNATURE- A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 24 February 2003 13:07, Peter An. Zyumbilev wrote: Ami kaji kak da vidia kak raboti SAP pod linux ? Stav vapros za testvane na alternativa na Windows 2000 server... Da ida pri shefa i da kaja Abe , shefe dai che iskam malko da si poigraia s edno nesto deto ne znam kakvo e i dali ste mi svarshi rabota ? A ot kude imash Windows2000 server? I toj li nazaem? - -- Take care Boris Jordanov (borj) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ 10751645 PGP-key-fingerprint:-- CB23 8B52 5FBC F36A 1B61 F1ED 2831 E52D AAFF 7B08 - -- Public-key:--- http://borj.freeshell.org/borj.asc - -- To err is human... to really foul up requires the root password. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+Wf9GKDHlLar/ewgRAk+JAKChNE1tUvQdPKJJL8X3liW2d5AYdQCeNHmo clGzSmzlO5rdG2KjkRnxw+Y= =OhHm -END PGP SIGNATURE- A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :)
Az pyk iskam da vidia kak rabotiat bankomatite v Bylgaria. Shte otida da si vzema vkyshti 2-3 za test. Ako mi haresat - shte si kupia. Ama otsega da kazha, che shte testvam, testvam, testvam... ama posle NIAMA DA MI HARESA :PPP Ami ne sym kazal che shte mi haresa. No mozhe i da mi. Ot druga strana, towa ne e oprawdanie, towa e obiasnenie na fakt. btw Ako sym banka, kak mislish dali niama da testwam bankomata ??? Znam li ... sigurno na dowerie shte go wzema. Kato primer za zakupuwane na netestwan software kojto sym kupuwal ot imeto na firmata za kojato sym rabotil, shte posocha slednite: RAV - super bygaw scener, kojto prosto si beshe zaguba na pari, nikoga ne bih go kupil ako go biah iztestwal predwaritelno, no chowek se uchi. da si go testval be. Horata davat 2 meseca bezplaten test. ne chetesh.. kakto napisah - chowek se uchi. Taka che takwiz izdynki gi swezhdam do min P.S. Mnogo se zadyrzha toz flame. A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
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Ipozlvat se glavno za testovi mashini i training no ima i production sistemi... Pozdravi, BIVOL - Original Message - From: Boris Jordanov [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 1:21 PM Subject: Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :) -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 24 February 2003 13:17, Boris Jordanov wrote: On Monday 24 February 2003 13:07, Peter An. Zyumbilev wrote: Ami kaji kak da vidia kak raboti SAP pod linux ? Stav vapros za testvane na alternativa na Windows 2000 server... Da ida pri shefa i da kaja Abe , shefe dai che iskam malko da si poigraia s edno nesto deto ne znam kakvo e i dali ste mi svarshi rabota ? I sled kato govorim za shefa ti - tova domashno polzvane li se vodi? btw, pitaj SAP, ako ti kazat, che RHAS e poddurzana platforma i te imat clienti s production SAP v/u RHAS - svurzi se s tezi clienti i gi pitaj. - -- Take care Boris Jordanov (borj) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ 10751645 PGP-key-fingerprint:-- CB23 8B52 5FBC F36A 1B61 F1ED 2831 E52D AAFF 7B08 - -- Public-key:--- http://borj.freeshell.org/borj.asc - -- To err is human... to really foul up requires the root password. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+WgBLKDHlLar/ewgRAs7tAJ4g0imo0aREnB9xDOmQVUbaOSi0vgCglUyj McRcBKi6yyFoaq0w5zmFdO0= =ciUf -END PGP SIGNATURE- A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
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Tsvetin Vasilev wrote: Drugo e kogato produkt prednazhchen za korporativni potrebiteli se polzva nelegalno. Az ne vijdam razlika i komapniat ste i donese pari tova i na home usera samo che na home usera pod formata na badesta zaplata... Ami da taka e da ne zabrawiame, che towa shte donese pari i na proizwoditelia :) Zashtoto kakto mnogo dobre znajat i ot MS wklichitelno, chowek e sklonen da iziskwa poznatoto mu obkryzhenie :) Mdaa, Po-dobre da piratsvat teb otkolkoto konkuretite ti - Steve Ballmer Samo che tozi argument hich ne me radva kogato stava duma za svoboden softuer. Taka che ako Pesho si ima RH AS @home, goliama e werojatnostta toj, ako ne e posleden praznoglawec, da si go poiska i @work A e hubawo da go kupi poradi takiwa prichini kato support updates ...etc. :) Oswen towa az naprimer syshto si imam piratska wersiaja na AS, w momenta nikyde ne e instalirana, no si ja izdrypah za da widia kak se prawi cluster spored RH, tyj da se kazhe, interesno mi e, kakwo shte mi dade AS-a ako si go kupia ? Kato primer za zakupuwane na netestwan software kojto sym kupuwal ot imeto na firmata za kojato sym rabotil, shte posocha slednite: RAV - super bygaw scener, kojto prosto si beshe zaguba na pari, nikoga ne bih go kupil ako go biah iztestwal predwaritelno, no chowek se uchi. Cyrilla - tazi kirilca za w98 si imashe syshto swoite izklichitelni, malki gadosti, koito chestno kazano ama nikak ne mi haresaha i se prinudih da napazaruwam i flextype. http://free.hit.bg/injinera/na4alo.htm -- Georgi Chorbadzhiyski http://georgi.unixsol.org/ A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
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Toi e testvan i raboti - kato potriabva se kupuva zasto zanesh che raboti A kak da platish za netso deto ne znaesh kkavo e ? Pozdravi, BIVOL - Original Message - From: Boris Jordanov [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 1:17 PM Subject: Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :) -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 24 February 2003 13:07, Peter An. Zyumbilev wrote: Ami kaji kak da vidia kak raboti SAP pod linux ? Stav vapros za testvane na alternativa na Windows 2000 server... Da ida pri shefa i da kaja Abe , shefe dai che iskam malko da si poigraia s edno nesto deto ne znam kakvo e i dali ste mi svarshi rabota ? A ot kude imash Windows2000 server? I toj li nazaem? - -- Take care Boris Jordanov (borj) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ 10751645 PGP-key-fingerprint:-- CB23 8B52 5FBC F36A 1B61 F1ED 2831 E52D AAFF 7B08 - -- Public-key:--- http://borj.freeshell.org/borj.asc - -- To err is human... to really foul up requires the root password. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+Wf9GKDHlLar/ewgRAk+JAKChNE1tUvQdPKJJL8X3liW2d5AYdQCeNHmo clGzSmzlO5rdG2KjkRnxw+Y= =OhHm -END PGP SIGNATURE- A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
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http://free.hit.bg/injinera/na4alo.htm mdam towa shte go probwam, kato se pojawi win ot niakyde:) no opredeleno izglezhda interesno mdam 10x kakwo durgo da kazha :)) uspeh Tsvetin A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
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On 24 02 2003 14:26, Peter An. Zyumbilev wrote: Toi e testvan i raboti - kato potriabva se kupuva zasto zanesh che raboti A kak da platish za netso deto ne znaesh kkavo e ? e dobre de hora, are stiga sega s toq thread, 4ak i do w2k stignahme da se zaqzhdame ... stiga tolko sme dokazvali bylgarskata marka v nas ... (samo prikazki i prikazki, kogato trqbva da se svyrshi nestorealno se ogyvame i pak prikazki i nisto...)... Izlezte ot tazi poro4na rekursiq ... ne stigmahme li dynoto ve4e ;-) break; -- printk(Greets, fr33zb1\n); A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 24 February 2003 15:30, George Danchev wrote: stigmahme li dynoto ve4e ;-) break; He who fights and runs away lives to fight another day. ;) - -- Take care Boris Jordanov (borj) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ 10751645 PGP-key-fingerprint:-- CB23 8B52 5FBC F36A 1B61 F1ED 2831 E52D AAFF 7B08 - -- Public-key:--- http://borj.freeshell.org/borj.asc - -- To err is human... to really foul up requires the root password. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+WiGAKDHlLar/ewgRAm9aAJ9ugz6vByeI9mR08zBa0/Wn2WymGwCghzGI mqV9UnXSJ8+oB5tGjSko2VU= =981s -END PGP SIGNATURE- A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
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Mdaa, Po-dobre da piratsvat teb otkolkoto konkuretite ti - Steve Ballmer Samo che tozi argument hich ne me radva kogato stava duma za svoboden softuer. dam..i na men ne mi se nravi.. Georgi Chorbadzhiyski writes: Tsvetin Vasilev wrote: Drugo e kogato produkt prednazhchen za korporativni potrebiteli se polzva nelegalno. Az ne vijdam razlika i komapniat ste i donese pari tova i na home usera samo che na home usera pod formata na badesta zaplata... Ami da taka e da ne zabrawiame, che towa shte donese pari i na proizwoditelia :) Zashtoto kakto mnogo dobre znajat i ot MS wklichitelno, chowek e sklonen da iziskwa poznatoto mu obkryzhenie :) Mdaa, Po-dobre da piratsvat teb otkolkoto konkuretite ti - Steve Ballmer Samo che tozi argument hich ne me radva kogato stava duma za svoboden softuer. Taka che ako Pesho si ima RH AS @home, goliama e werojatnostta toj, ako ne e posleden praznoglawec, da si go poiska i @work A e hubawo da go kupi poradi takiwa prichini kato support updates ...etc. :) Oswen towa az naprimer syshto si imam piratska wersiaja na AS, w momenta nikyde ne e instalirana, no si ja izdrypah za da widia kak se prawi cluster spored RH, tyj da se kazhe, interesno mi e, kakwo shte mi dade AS-a ako si go kupia ? Kato primer za zakupuwane na netestwan software kojto sym kupuwal ot imeto na firmata za kojato sym rabotil, shte posocha slednite: RAV - super bygaw scener, kojto prosto si beshe zaguba na pari, nikoga ne bih go kupil ako go biah iztestwal predwaritelno, no chowek se uchi. Cyrilla - tazi kirilca za w98 si imashe syshto swoite izklichitelni, malki gadosti, koito chestno kazano ama nikak ne mi haresaha i se prinudih da napazaruwam i flextype. http://free.hit.bg/injinera/na4alo.htm -- Georgi Chorbadzhiyski http://georgi.unixsol.org/ A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
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vij rh ne predlagat nishto koeto go niama i free razbirash li...prosto se opitvat i da manipulirat kato te obejdavat che kato si go kupish ti pritejavash neshto koeto ne mojesh da imash otdrugate. docs i support, koeto defakto si go imash online..a kolkoto do orig. cd i blia blia blia ...tova e niakva gazaria..nenujna pri tova Tsvetin Vasilev writes: http://free.hit.bg/injinera/na4alo.htm mdam towa shte go probwam, kato se pojawi win ot niakyde:) no opredeleno izglezhda interesno mdam 10x kakwo durgo da kazha :)) uspeh Tsvetin == == A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html == == A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 24 February 2003 17:06, svetla wrote: vij rh ne predlagat nishto koeto go niama i free razbirash li...prosto se opitvat i da manipulirat kato te obejdavat che kato si go kupish ti pritejavash neshto koeto ne mojesh da imash otdrugate. docs i support, koeto defakto si go imash online..a kolkoto do orig. cd i blia blia blia ...tova e niakva gazaria..nenujna pri tova Tova e osvezavasto :) Viz sega tuk: http://www.redhat.com/software/advancedserver/features/ - malko marketing i tuk: http://www.redhat.com/software/advancedserver/technical/ - tuk se zagledaj hubavo - kato go napravish for free i da e na enterprise (opitaj da razberesh smisula na tazi dumichka) level - ste te pozlatjat. Imash li ideja kakvo e online support na prilozenie koeto ti e mission critical, a help desk-a e v India? I znaesh li kakva e cenata na edno failover naprimer reshenie v situacia - umre zeljazoto? Bezcenno e :) Guys and gals :) Ne govorim za kartofi. Govorim za visokointelektualni produkti. Na koito horata razchitat da turkaljat big money prilozenia. I daj boze da pravjat even bigger money za tjah. Nesta koito neizbezno struvat pari _i_ si struvat parite. Uvazavajte stojnostta na truda. Za da uvazavat i vashia :) - -- Take care Boris Jordanov (borj) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ 10751645 PGP-key-fingerprint:-- CB23 8B52 5FBC F36A 1B61 F1ED 2831 E52D AAFF 7B08 - -- Public-key:--- http://borj.freeshell.org/borj.asc - -- To err is human... to really foul up requires the root password. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+WjqFKDHlLar/ewgRAn71AJ93wBefvpLBZphQIxg7Wu6NhKeT1wCfZdta e7u7ln2Ncq+6+Q4FZOZowGk= =7uOP -END PGP SIGNATURE- A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
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Az predi vreme si kupih RedHat 8.0 prosto ot jad che ne moga da si kupia Notebook bez Windows XP, t.e mojeh da si kupja s preinstalliran Linux no mi struvashe s 450$ po-veche. Ne polzvam nito RedHat8.0 nito Windows XP polzvam RedHat 7.1 i ne vijdam prichina za promjana, no tova che MS otkradnaha tezi 40-50$ ot men mi dade moralnoto opravdanie da si kazha Kakvoto povikalo takova i se obadilo, t.e. az systo sym kral ot tjah. A tova dali ste si platish ili ne, e slojen vypros i az lichno mislja che predi da obidish njakoj trjabva da se zamislish primerno za Mp3 filovete disk-ove te si ili MS softewar-ite koito polzvash bez pari, tova dali ste otkradnesh ot beden ili ot bogat za men si e vse krajba i mislja che patetichni istorii a-la Andreshko ne sa ot polza za nikogo, Bg e dosta dobyr primer za vredata im. Otnsono OpenSource predi vreme raboteh po edin OpenGenom project, vsystnost im napravih pochti tjalata comunicatzia da raboti prez HTTP tunneling, ne go pravih bezkoristno, bjah reshil da se nasochvam kym bioinformatica i mi trjabvashe pone edin project za resume-to, e svyrshih si rabotata napravihme pyrvia release i kakvo stana, okaza se che tezi koito naj-mnogo prikazvaha sto za veliko chudo e OS, se havanaha za consultant-i v njakoj ot Top 10 Pharma firmite za po 150$/h i zapochnaha da dyrpat projecta na tam nakydeto tjahnite corporativni iziskvania nalagat. Prosto ne mislja che ima bezkorisen OpenSource, prosto ne ni e v choveshkata priroda, edni go pravjat za da natrupat opit, drugi go pravjat za da se prodavat kato consultanti posle, treti koito sa na vyrha na piramidata stavat izvestni i stavat partnjori vyv firmi ili im se plasta da uchastvat v conferentzii i t.n. No ako horata njamat litchen interes v Open Sourc-a to to njama da go ima, pone za Bg poznavam njakolko choveka koito go izpolzvaha kato traplin za US i sled kato dojdoha tuk-a veche njamat vreme za OS. Otnosno Takers i Givers ne mislja che znania mogat da se poluchat darum, za znanieto se iziskva derzaene, tezi koito sa razglezeni i naucheni da poluchvat na gotovo te ne poluchavat nito znanie nito opit i rano ili kysno stavat jertva zaradi tova, a i sa obrecheni da jivejat na po-vyrhnosta na profesiata. A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
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Predi da obiasniavash kak Redhat manipulirat mediite se nauchi da pishesh. *U*bezhdavat, a ne *O*bezhdavat. I da ne razvodniavame temata - problema se definira mnogo kratko: 1. Softuerno piratstvo 2. I to na Linux. Obizhdame horata/organizaciite, koito ni dyrzhat edin vid na rabota. Kakvo li shte stane ako utre na Alan Cox i drugite im pisne i kazhat - aide mainata vi, ot utre koito iska kernela, shte si plashta. Tuk po princip triabva da se sybirat hora, koito da podpomagat Linux. A ne da kradat ot nego. - Original Message - From: svetla [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 5:06 PM Subject: Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :) vij rh ne predlagat nishto koeto go niama i free razbirash li...prosto se opitvat i da manipulirat kato te obejdavat che kato si go kupish ti pritejavash neshto koeto ne mojesh da imash otdrugate. docs i support, koeto defakto si go imash online..a kolkoto do orig. cd i blia blia blia ...tova e niakva gazaria..nenujna pri tova Tsvetin Vasilev writes: http://free.hit.bg/injinera/na4alo.htm mdam towa shte go probwam, kato se pojawi win ot niakyde:) no opredeleno izglezhda interesno mdam 10x kakwo durgo da kazha :)) uspeh Tsvetin == == A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html == == A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
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Kazhi kakvo mu e na RAV shtoto skoro ni izticha abonamenta za tazi godina i trjabva da go podnovjavame? Yavor Atanasov - Original Message - From: Tsvetin Vasilev [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 11:31 AM Subject: Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :) Kato primer za zakupuwane na netestwan software kojto sym kupuwal ot imeto na firmata za kojato sym rabotil, shte posocha slednite: RAV - super bygaw scener, kojto prosto si beshe zaguba na pari, nikoga ne bih go kupil ako go biah iztestwal predwaritelno, no A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
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Predi da obiasniavash kak Redhat manipulirat mediite se nauchi da pishesh. *U*bezhdavat, a ne *O*bezhdavat. mnogo si drebnaFFF... Predi da obiasniavash kak Redhat manipulirat mediite se nauchi da pishesh. *U*bezhdavat, a ne *O*bezhdavat. I da ne razvodniavame temata - problema se definira mnogo kratko: 1. Softuerno piratstvo 2. I to na Linux. Obizhdame horata/organizaciite, koito ni dyrzhat edin vid na rabota. Kakvo li shte stane ako utre na Alan Cox i drugite im pisne i kazhat - aide mainata vi, ot utre koito iska kernela, shte si plashta. Tuk po princip triabva da se sybirat hora, koito da podpomagat Linux. A ne da kradat ot nego. - Original Message - From: svetla [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 5:06 PM Subject: Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :) vij rh ne predlagat nishto koeto go niama i free razbirash li...prosto se opitvat i da manipulirat kato te obejdavat che kato si go kupish ti pritejavash neshto koeto ne mojesh da imash otdrugate. docs i support, koeto defakto si go imash online..a kolkoto do orig. cd i blia blia blia ...tova e niakva gazaria..nenujna pri tova Tsvetin Vasilev writes: http://free.hit.bg/injinera/na4alo.htm mdam towa shte go probwam, kato se pojawi win ot niakyde:) no opredeleno izglezhda interesno mdam 10x kakwo durgo da kazha :)) uspeh Tsvetin == == A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html == == A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
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Svetla, pravoto na mnenie e hubavo nesto, no kogato obosnovava na fact-i e hubavo te da sa pone istina. Dokolkoto znam Kernel-a za S/390 a systo i za Alpha e pochti iztzjalo razraboten ot RH e vjarno che zatova sa poluchili pari ot IBM i Compaq, osven tova imat otdel ot okolo pone 60 choveka kojto se zanimava s pisaneto na driver-i. No naj-vajnoto e tche te predostavjat Certification na RH za razlicni system-i, znam che tova ne ot osobeno zanachenie za BG, no za golemite corporatzii, e neobhodimo uslovie za da kupjat Linux, bez tova Linux nikoga njamashe da vleze v sveta na golemia business. mai vseki tuk ima pravo na mnenie... Boris Jordanov writes: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 24 February 2003 17:06, svetla wrote: vij rh ne predlagat nishto koeto go niama i free razbirash li...prosto se opitvat i da manipulirat kato te obejdavat che kato si go kupish ti pritejavash neshto koeto ne mojesh da imash otdrugate. docs i support, koeto defakto si go imash online..a kolkoto do orig. cd i blia blia blia ...tova e niakva gazaria..nenujna pri tova Tova e osvezavasto :) Viz sega tuk: http://www.redhat.com/software/advancedserver/features/ - malko marketing i tuk: http://www.redhat.com/software/advancedserver/technical/ - tuk se zagledaj hubavo - kato go napravish for free i da e na enterprise (opitaj da razberesh smisula na tazi dumichka) level - ste te pozlatjat. Imash li ideja kakvo e online support na prilozenie koeto ti e mission critical, a help desk-a e v India? I znaesh li kakva e cenata na edno failover naprimer reshenie v situacia - umre zeljazoto? Bezcenno e :) Guys and gals :) Ne govorim za kartofi. Govorim za visokointelektualni produkti. Na koito horata razchitat da turkaljat big money prilozenia. I daj boze da pravjat even bigger money za tjah. Nesta koito neizbezno struvat pari _i_ si struvat parite. Uvazavajte stojnostta na truda. Za da uvazavat i vashia :) - -- Take care Boris Jordanov (borj) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ 10751645 PGP-key-fingerprint:-- CB23 8B52 5FBC F36A 1B61 F1ED 2831 E52D AAFF 7B08 - -- Public-key:--- http://borj.freeshell.org/borj.asc - -- To err is human... to really foul up requires the root password. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+WjqFKDHlLar/ewgRAn71AJ93wBefvpLBZphQIxg7Wu6NhKeT1wCfZdta e7u7ln2Ncq+6+Q4FZOZowGk= =7uOP -END PGP SIGNATURE- A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html 5.02 A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
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On Mon, Feb 24, 2003 at 01:37:02PM -0500, Valentin Tzankov wrote: Svetla, pravoto na mnenie e hubavo nesto, no kogato obosnovava na fact-i e hubavo te da sa pone istina. Dokolkoto znam Kernel-a za S/390 a systo i za Alpha e pochti iztzjalo razraboten ot RH e vjarno che zatova sa poluchili pari ot IBM i Compaq, osven tova imat otdel ot okolo pone 60 choveka kojto se zanimava s pisaneto na driver-i. No naj-vajnoto e tche te predostavjat Certification na RH za razlicni system-i, znam che tova ne ot osobeno zanachenie za BG, no za golemite corporatzii, e neobhodimo uslovie za da kupjat Linux, bez tova Linux nikoga njamashe da vleze v sveta na golemia business. Vav tazi vrazka: http://news.com.com/2100-1001-984383.html?tag=fd_top Nakratko: Ima organizacia chiito site e www.commoncriteria.org, chiito certificates se vzemat naseriozno ot US .gov. Ako RedHat vzeme takav certificate, tova shte mu otvori mnogo vrati - i koeto e mnogo po-vajnoto - shte otvori mnogo vrati pred Linux vaobshte. Ne che tova e edinstvenoto i nai-vajno neshto na sveta, no sas sigurnost ima znachenie. Sas zdrave, -- Theodor MilkovHead Network Administrator Davidov Net Phone: +359 (2) 730158 A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
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On Sun, 2003-02-23 at 09:26, Ivaylo Toshev wrote: , 2003-02-22 16:29, Teodor Georgiev : Redhat sponsorirat developvaneto na Linux prilozhenia. Te poddyrzhat finansovo horata, koito pishat GPL softuer. RedHat imat 6 kernel-developeri i niakolko dushi pisheshti tehnite si prilojenia. Ako se zavurtish po forumite shte vidish che NISHTO KOETO REDHAT sa promenili po kernela, gnome, kamo li puk KDE NE E SUBMITNATO OBRATNO na suotvetnite proekti ! - . ,Alan Cox , Ulrich Drepper Jakub Jelinek glibc, Mike Harris XFree86, Owen Taylor, Havoc Pennington, Alexander Larsson Daniel Veillard GTK/GNOME/Nautilus/libxml, Christopher Blizzard Mozilla . , ChangeLog- . A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
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Sigurno triabvashe da se doiziasnia: Stava vupros che kernel-2.4..rpm ili SRPM e razlichno ot kernel-2.4.XXX.tgz, t.e. tova koeto idva v krainia RedHat distributiv. Za gnome/GTK/Nautilus si prav, bez da iskam go slojih pod obsht snamenatel. Vse pak RedHat sa osnovni igrachi v GNOME. No vij shto se otnasia do KDE - e tam sum prav 100 %. , 2003-02-23 11:46, Yanko Kaneti : On Sun, 2003-02-23 at 09:26, Ivaylo Toshev wrote: - . ,Alan Cox , Ulrich Drepper Jakub Jelinek glibc, Mike Harris XFree86, Owen Taylor, Havoc Pennington, Alexander Larsson Daniel Veillard GTK/GNOME/Nautilus/libxml, Christopher Blizzard Mozilla . , ChangeLog- . A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :)
Ivaylo Toshev wrote: Redhat sponsorirat developvaneto na Linux prilozhenia. Te poddyrzhat finansovo horata, koito pishat GPL softuer. RedHat imat 6 kernel-developeri i niakolko dushi pisheshti tehnite si prilojenia. Ako se zavurtish po forumite shte vidish che NISHTO KOETO REDHAT sa promenili po kernela, gnome, kamo li puk KDE NE E SUBMITNATO OBRATNO na suotvetnite proekti ! Pylni i absoliutni gluposti. Predi da se izlagash po publichni forumi sveri si faktite. Potarsi kolko choveka (i koi!) pishat v lkml s redhat.com address. Ima i dosta koito ne pishat pod takyv address no rabotiat za redhat. Mozhesh da vidish sashto gnome, glibc, cygwin. RedHat sa dobrite ne gi izkarvaite kato niakakvi si koito samo vlachat ot community-to. Tozi softuer, koito vsichki vseki den polzvame. S prostashkata si postypka, Boris im kazva mainata vi, mrete!. Ne e li redno vse pak Redhat da poluchat neshto? Po-dolu shte komentiram... Imashe iskane i za krack na VMware i drugi. I biaha prateni kadeto se polagat takiva iskania - napravo v /dev/null Mnogo bi mi se iskalo da izpratia tova do Redhat, kakto i da post'na prostotiite v Linux forumite (pone na redhat), no tova napravo shte nasrami imeto na Bylgaria v Linux sredite. Shte si umrat ot smiah. Mnogo lesno narishash postupkata na niakogo otvratitelna, che toi e bokluk ?! Ia sega da pomislim malko: RedHat Advanced Server e nishto drugo osven Linux distributiv pod GPL,Xfree i drugite OpenSource licensi. Poneje GPL e nai - restrictivnia shte razgledam kak stoiat neshtata tam, a te stoiat taka: GPL kazva: Pravi kvoto iskash, prodavai go za kakvito pari iskash, no si ZADULJEN DA PREDOSTAVISH DOSTUPA DO CODE NA VSEKI ! Zabelejete ne BYNARI Pylni gluposti. Triabva da predostavish promenite koito si napravil vav kod-a na *tozi na koito predostaviash binaryto*. S drugi dumi tova che sam promenil GPL kod ili sam go nastroil po opredelen nachin (rh advanced server) po nikakyv nachin ne me zadylzhava da predostaviam kod-a na drugi osven na moite *potrebiteli*. Ti kato potrebitel, GPL ot svoia strana ti dava pravo sled kato poluchish koda ot men da go razprostranish NO stava duma za koda ne za krainiat produkt ot nego a imenno binary-to. Svali si tova i go chui. http://ludost.net/ls2k2/PejPo_lite.mp3 - a code. Suotvetno RH praviat tova - predostaviat SRPM za free download. Sega, ako az gi svalia tezi SRPM, suglasno GPL imam pravoto da si gi kompiliram i DA GI PRODAVAM ILI PODARIAVAM (zapisvam i t.n.) NA THIRD PARTY LICA !!!Barabar s bezplaten dostup do SOURCE CODE Da imash tova pravo no procheti kakvo sam napisal po-gore. Taka che ne znam zashto niakoi koito e sledval GPL triabva da se nareche bokluk ! Tova che mozhesh da napravish neshto ne znachi che e dobre da go napravish. Sega otnosno publikuvanata ot George Danchev discusia: Ne mi stana iasno za kakvi projects stana duma, no v OpenSource sveta sigurno 80 % ot projectite sa si rodeni umreli, nai-malko zashtoto se otnasiat do problem kasaesht mnogo malko potrebiteli i suotvetno zainteresovani developeri. A v sveta na zatvoreniat kod nikoga ne nauchavame kakyv e procenta na myrtvite proekti. Az imam na moiata stranichka niakolko programki mozhesh da gi smetnesh za myrtvi proekti. Ne sam commitval promeni po tiah v prodalzhenie na meseci. Zashto? Varshat mi rabotata taka kakto sa i ne vizhdam nuzhda da gi promeniam. Myrtvi li sa? Niakoi koito gleda ot biznes stranata (novosti - novi versii - novi prihodi) shte kazhe myrtvi sa. Az ne mislia taka. Kodat si e zaedno s tiah, koito zhelae mozhe da gi promeni. I tova e goliama sila. Za sujanlenie takiva proekti sa i bulgariziraneto na Debian, kakto i vuobshte mnogo-chesto diskutiranoto suzdavane na Bulgarska distribucia. Tova si e moe mnenie. Zashto ? Da poglednem ot pazarna gledna tochka: Da predpolojim che az suzdavam OpenSource project koito iskam da se razviva, kato v nego se vkluchat drugi developeri, a tezi developeri neka gi razgledame kato PARI (investicii i prochie) , e za da privleka INVESTICII, az triabva da predloja proekt ot koito tezi INVESTICII da se zainteresuvat ( da im triabva !!!). Ne vsichko e pari. Osven tova bulgaria e mnogo malyk pazar za da e neobhodimo da ima bulgarska distribucia. Programite si idvat gotovi da rabotiat s bulgarski napravo ot svoite avtori (kde, gnome). V samite proekti ima hora koito pomagat za bulgarizaciata. Az lichno niamam problem s bulgarizaciata v novite linux distribucii. -- Georgi Chorbadzhiyski http://georgi.unixsol.org/ A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :)
Ivaylo, sram e che si RHCE. Znaesh li kakva e nai-goliamata prichina da ne se razprostraniava Redhat Advanced Server publichno? Shte ti citiram otgovora na chovek ot Redhat: Redhat Advanced server is just Redhat linux bundled with some commercial applications. Since there are commercial applications bundled with it, no, it is not available for free download. Taka che misli dva pyti dali biha se izsmiali ot Redhat i NA KOGO BIHA se izsmiali. - Original Message - From: Ivaylo Toshev [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 9:26 AM Subject: Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :) , 2003-02-22 16:29, Teodor Georgiev : Edinstvenia legalen nachin da se sdobiesh s Redhat Advanced Server e osven da si go kupish (cenata ne e 25lv), e da si go kompilirash ot source RPM. Da ! cut Tova, che goliama chast ot Linux softuera e bezplaten (GPL), syvsem ne znachi, che vsichko triabva da e bezplatno. Vsushtonst toi e free, koeto neznachi bez pari, a svoboden za polzvane po pravilata na GPL. Otnosno giver i taker sum suglasen, no takiva ima vuv VSICHKI forumi. Na mnogo malko hora tuk im uvirat glavite, che vse pak horata, koito rabotqt po GPL softuera triabva da zhiveqt ot neshto. Kompaniite sushto. Tova e nai-malkoto zaplati na horata, ofis, PC-ta, bandwidth i prochie. Zatova te puskat free, no pone ot neshto triabva da doidat pari. Estestveno home usera ne mozhe da se chanchi za po $50 (osobeno v razvivashti se strani). No Redhat Advanced Server ne se polzva ot home useri, a ot korporativni klienti, za koito da rechem i $300 ne e problem. Otnosno business modelite za rabota s GLP i vuobshte sus OpenSoftware mojete da vidite suotvetnite statii po raznite mu saitove, az obache edno shte vi kaja, tam NIKUDE NE PISHE che ot prodajbata na software shte se pecheli !Ako niakoi ( ili firma) ima namerenie da pecheli ot prodajbata na OpenSource - pishi ia umriala, zashtoto tuk deistva pazara, a ne morala i koito ne go znae - ne samo software ami i kashkaval ne moje da prodade. Ot OpenSource moje da se pecheli s: konsultacii, client-specific reshenia, third-party proprietary software, support i t.n. Imenno zaradi tova i Mandrake obiaviha falit. Andjuk de !Vupreki che te sledvat pravilnia business model, spored mene obache ne uspiaha da se doberat do dostatuchno silni proekti kakto i strategicheski partniorstva s golemi igrachi v IT bransha ( kakto napraviha SuSE i RedHat), a i drugi prichini. Reshiha da igraiat sami bez da predlojat neshto novo. A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
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, 2003-02-23 14:54, Georgi Chorbadzhiyski : Ivaylo Toshev wrote: Pylni i absoliutni gluposti. Predi da se izlagash po publichni forumi sveri si faktite. Potarsi kolko choveka (i koi!) pishat v lkml s redhat.com address. Ima i dosta koito ne pishat pod takyv address no rabotiat za redhat. Mozhesh da vidish sashto gnome, glibc, cygwin. RedHat sa dobrite ne gi izkarvaite kato niakakvi si koito samo vlachat ot community-to. Vij otgovora mi na Yanko Kanetii. Tozi softuer, koito vsichki vseki den polzvame. S prostashkata si postypka, Boris im kazva mainata vi, mrete!. Ne e li redno vse pak Redhat da poluchat neshto? Po-dolu shte komentiram... Imashe iskane i za krack na VMware i drugi. I biaha prateni kadeto se polagat takiva iskania - napravo v /dev/null Mnogo bi mi se iskalo da izpratia tova do Redhat, kakto i da post'na prostotiite v Linux forumite (pone na redhat), no tova napravo shte nasrami imeto na Bylgaria v Linux sredite. Shte si umrat ot smiah. Mnogo lesno narishash postupkata na niakogo otvratitelna, che toi e bokluk ?! Ia sega da pomislim malko: RedHat Advanced Server e nishto drugo osven Linux distributiv pod GPL,Xfree i drugite OpenSource licensi. Poneje GPL e nai - restrictivnia shte razgledam kak stoiat neshtata tam, a te stoiat taka: GPL kazva: Pravi kvoto iskash, prodavai go za kakvito pari iskash, no si ZADULJEN DA PREDOSTAVISH DOSTUPA DO CODE NA VSEKI ! Zabelejete ne BYNARI PULNI GLUPOSTI LI ?! Spravka GPL v. 2 ! Pylni gluposti. Triabva da predostavish promenite koito si napravil vav kod-a na *tozi na koito predostaviash binaryto*. S drugi dumi tova che sam promenil GPL kod ili sam go nastroil po opredelen nachin (rh advanced server) po nikakyv nachin ne me zadylzhava da predostaviam kod-a na drugi osven na moite *potrebiteli*. Ti kato potrebitel, GPL ot svoia strana ti dava pravo sled kato poluchish koda ot men da go razprostranish NO stava duma za koda ne za krainiat produkt ot nego a imenno binary-to. Svali si tova i go chui. http://ludost.net/ls2k2/PejPo_lite.mp3 Blagodaria . - a code. Suotvetno RH praviat tova - predostaviat SRPM za free download. Sega, ako az gi svalia tezi SRPM, suglasno GPL imam pravoto da si gi kompiliram i DA GI PRODAVAM ILI PODARIAVAM (zapisvam i t.n.) NA THIRD PARTY LICA !!!Barabar s bezplaten dostup do SOURCE CODE Da imash tova pravo no procheti kakvo sam napisal po-gore. Da ! I nikude v GPL v.2 niama da namerish zabrana da razprostraniavash bynarita . Taka che ne znam zashto niakoi koito e sledval GPL triabva da se nareche bokluk ! Tova che mozhesh da napravish neshto ne znachi che e dobre da go napravish. Sega otnosno publikuvanata ot George Danchev discusia: Ne mi stana iasno za kakvi projects stana duma, no v OpenSource sveta sigurno 80 % ot projectite sa si rodeni umreli, nai-malko zashtoto se otnasiat do problem kasaesht mnogo malko potrebiteli i suotvetno zainteresovani developeri. A v sveta na zatvoreniat kod nikoga ne nauchavame kakyv e procenta na myrtvite proekti. Az imam na moiata stranichka niakolko programki mozhesh da gi smetnesh za myrtvi proekti. Ne sam commitval promeni po tiah v prodalzhenie na meseci. Zashto? Varshat mi rabotata taka kakto sa i ne vizhdam nuzhda da gi promeniam. Myrtvi li sa? Niakoi koito gleda ot biznes stranata (novosti - novi versii - novi prihodi) shte kazhe myrtvi sa. Az ne mislia taka. Kodat si e zaedno s tiah, koito zhelae mozhe da gi promeni. I tova e goliama sila. Za sujanlenie takiva proekti sa i bulgariziraneto na Debian, kakto i vuobshte mnogo-chesto diskutiranoto suzdavane na Bulgarska distribucia. Tova si e moe mnenie. Zashto ? Da poglednem ot pazarna gledna tochka: Da predpolojim che az suzdavam OpenSource project koito iskam da se razviva, kato v nego se vkluchat drugi developeri, a tezi developeri neka gi razgledame kato PARI (investicii i prochie) , e za da privleka INVESTICII, az triabva da predloja proekt ot koito tezi INVESTICII da se zainteresuvat ( da im triabva !!!). Ne vsichko e pari. Osven tova bulgaria e mnogo malyk pazar za da e neobhodimo da ima bulgarska distribucia. Programite si idvat gotovi da rabotiat s bulgarski napravo ot svoite avtori (kde, gnome). V samite proekti ima hora koito pomagat za bulgarizaciata. Az lichno niamam problem s bulgarizaciata v novite linux distribucii. A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :)
, 2003-02-23 16:36, Teodor Georgiev : Since there are commercial applications bundled with it, no, it is not available for free download. Taka che misli dva pyti dali biha se izsmiali ot Redhat i NA KOGO BIHA se izsmiali. V SRPM-ite koito gi ima za free download - tam niama vuprosnite Comercial producti. - Original Message - From: Ivaylo Toshev [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 9:26 AM Subject: Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :) , 2003-02-22 16:29, Teodor Georgiev : Edinstvenia legalen nachin da se sdobiesh s Redhat Advanced Server e osven da si go kupish (cenata ne e 25lv), e da si go kompilirash ot source RPM. Da ! cut Tova, che goliama chast ot Linux softuera e bezplaten (GPL), syvsem ne znachi, che vsichko triabva da e bezplatno. Vsushtonst toi e free, koeto neznachi bez pari, a svoboden za polzvane po pravilata na GPL. Otnosno giver i taker sum suglasen, no takiva ima vuv VSICHKI forumi. Na mnogo malko hora tuk im uvirat glavite, che vse pak horata, koito rabotqt po GPL softuera triabva da zhiveqt ot neshto. Kompaniite sushto. Tova e nai-malkoto zaplati na horata, ofis, PC-ta, bandwidth i prochie. Zatova te puskat free, no pone ot neshto triabva da doidat pari. Estestveno home usera ne mozhe da se chanchi za po $50 (osobeno v razvivashti se strani). No Redhat Advanced Server ne se polzva ot home useri, a ot korporativni klienti, za koito da rechem i $300 ne e problem. Otnosno business modelite za rabota s GLP i vuobshte sus OpenSoftware mojete da vidite suotvetnite statii po raznite mu saitove, az obache edno shte vi kaja, tam NIKUDE NE PISHE che ot prodajbata na software shte se pecheli !Ako niakoi ( ili firma) ima namerenie da pecheli ot prodajbata na OpenSource - pishi ia umriala, zashtoto tuk deistva pazara, a ne morala i koito ne go znae - ne samo software ami i kashkaval ne moje da prodade. Ot OpenSource moje da se pecheli s: konsultacii, client-specific reshenia, third-party proprietary software, support i t.n. Imenno zaradi tova i Mandrake obiaviha falit. Andjuk de !Vupreki che te sledvat pravilnia business model, spored mene obache ne uspiaha da se doberat do dostatuchno silni proekti kakto i strategicheski partniorstva s golemi igrachi v IT bransha ( kakto napraviha SuSE i RedHat), a i drugi prichini. Reshiha da igraiat sami bez da predlojat neshto novo. A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
RE: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :)
Kolko ot vas, koito osven linux polzvat i widows vkasti im e legalen? Moia e legalen,kkakto i MS office, no imam 2 programi(Macromedia Fireworks,Macromedia Homesite) koito sa ot free.techno-link.com . Sazalivam za tova, no GIMP ne e dobra alternativa na Macromedia Fireworks a HS za men e bez konkurenciaA ne moga da si pozvolia da gi kupia..Edin den ste si gi kupia -ste prezhalia $800 za Macromdeia Studio..VSICHKI drugi rogrami pr men sa zamemeni s bezplatni alternativi. Iskam da pitam borcite srestu piratsrvoto kakva e razlikata da kradesh ot MS,ot RedHat ili ot muziknatite kato slushah mp3 ? Ne sa li vsichki komersialni vendori ? I mogat li s raka na sarceto da kajat DA AZ NE SAM PIRAT-NIMAMAM NITO EDNA KRADEN PROGRAMA ? po taia logika i az sam bokluk zastoto imam 2 piratski programi i niakolko diska s mp3.. Peter An. Zyumbilev Web Developer Administrator BIVOL BULGARIA email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] tel.:+359 88 966940 web: http://www.bivol.net http://www.bivol.net -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Theodor Milkov Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 11:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :) On Sat, Feb 22, 2003 at 04:29:26PM +0200, Teodor Georgiev wrote: cut Edinstvenia legalen nachin da se sdobiesh s Redhat Advanced Server e osven da si go kupish (cenata ne e 25lv), e da si go kompilirash ot source RPM. Niakoi ot tazi lista (da, shte izbroia imena) taka sa se pouvliakli v dumata GPL, che napravo si karat po starite pytishta na warez. cut Napalno sam saglasen. Mejdu drugoto dosta se pokolebah dali da ne obarna vnimanie na choveka s warezite oshte pri originalnia message, no sum tvarde miroliubiv. Ednakvo illegal e da si svalish ot niakoi warez Windows XP, 3D Studio Max ili RedHat Advanced Server. Ne go pravete ili pone ne tolkova naglo... -- Theodor MilkovHead Network Administrator Davidov Net Phone: +359 (2) 730158 == == A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html == == A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :)
Ivaylo Toshev wrote: Pylni gluposti. Triabva da predostavish promenite koito si napravil vav kod-a na *tozi na koito predostaviash binaryto*. S drugi dumi tova che sam promenil GPL kod ili sam go nastroil po opredelen nachin (rh advanced server) po nikakyv nachin ne me zadylzhava da predostaviam kod-a na drugi osven na moite *potrebiteli*. Ti kato potrebitel, GPL ot svoia strana ti dava pravo sled kato poluchish koda ot men da go razprostranish NO stava duma za koda ne za krainiat produkt ot nego a imenno binary-to. PULNI GLUPOSTI LI ?! Spravka GPL v. 2 ! Molia procheti otnovo kakvo sam napisal. Na koi si *ZADYLZHEN* da predostavish koda. Predstavi si che sam promenil koda na mysql i sam reshil promeneniat mysql da go prodavam. Na wseki koito si kupi georgi's mysql az sam *DLYZHEN* spored GPL da mu predostavia kodat na mysql + moite promeni. No ako ti si vanshen chovek na koito az ne sam *distributiral* moiat produkt osnovan na GPL az kam teb niamam nikakvi obligacii. Da tova ne tochno e duhat na GPL no niama zabrana za tova. Standard disclaimer: I'm not a lawyer. S dve dumi: Dori i SRPM-tata na RedHat AS, RedHat mogat da gi predostaviat samo na svoite klienti i na nikoi drug. Tova che wse pak gi predostaviat za wseki e goliam plus za tiah (ot moralna gledna tochka) -- Georgi Chorbadzhiyski http://georgi.unixsol.org/ A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :)
Peter An. Zyumbilev wrote: Kolko ot vas, koito osven linux polzvat i widows vkasti im e legalen? Moia e legalen,kkakto i MS office, no imam 2 programi(Macromedia Fireworks,Macromedia Homesite) koito sa ot free.techno-link.com . Sazalivam za tova, no GIMP ne e dobra alternativa na Macromedia Fireworks a HS za men e bez konkurenciaA ne moga da si pozvolia da gi kupia..Edin den ste si Tova ne te izviniava che go polzvash. gi kupia -ste prezhalia $800 za Macromdeia Studio..VSICHKI drugi rogrami pr men sa zamemeni s bezplatni alternativi. Iskam da pitam borcite srestu piratsrvoto kakva e razlikata da kradesh ot MS,ot RedHat ili ot muziknatite kato slushah mp3 ? Sravniavash iabylki i portokali, mp3-tata niamat nishto obshto s narushavaneto na licenzite na softuera. Pri muzikata rabotata stoi po savsem razlichen nachin kakvo shte kazhesh za kolekciata mi ot diskovete koito sam ia encodnal za da si ia slusham? Diskovete sam si gi kupil. Ne sa li vsichki komersialni vendori ? I mogat li s raka na sarceto da kajat DA AZ NE SAM PIRAT-NIMAMAM NITO EDNA KRADEN PROGRAMA ? Az moga da go kazha ot dosta vreme. Blagodaria. po taia logika i az sam bokluk zastoto imam 2 piratski programi i niakolko diska s mp3.. Ne si bokluk no si takyv koito vredi na softuernite proizvoditeli. Edin primer koito mnogo obicham da davam. Wseki si vika abe Adobe goliama kompania niama da gi zaboli ot tova che az polzvam Photoshop shtoto sam beden student. DA Adobe niama da gi zaboli no ia si pomislete za avtorite na PaintShop Pro primerno, koito struva $50 i ima 85% ot vazmozhnostite na Photoshop. Poradi tova che ti pozlvash for free programa koito struva $800 gubiat tezi koito predlaga alternativa na razumna cena. Something to think about. -- Georgi Chorbadzhiyski http://georgi.unixsol.org/ A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :)
Ti mai ne si prochel kakvo napisah. Che opravdavam home userite. Napisal sum go. CHETI !!! Predi da trygnesh da mi postvash - pone 2 pyti procheti!!! V sluchaia i da se naseresh ne mozhesh da me ubedish, che Redhat Advanced Server shte se polzva ot home user !!! Edno e produkt da se polzva ot home user i toi da ne si go plati, shtoto produkta e raven na godishnata mu zaplata. Drugo e kogato produkt prednazhchen za korporativni potrebiteli se polzva nelegalno. Ai stiga sa se napravili tuka nqkoi na Mnogostradalna Genoveva - Original Message - From: Peter An. Zyumbilev [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 5:04 PM Subject: RE: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :) Kolko ot vas, koito osven linux polzvat i widows vkasti im e legalen? Moia e legalen,kkakto i MS office, no imam 2 programi(Macromedia Fireworks,Macromedia Homesite) koito sa ot free.techno-link.com . Sazalivam za tova, no GIMP ne e dobra alternativa na Macromedia Fireworks a HS za men e bez konkurenciaA ne moga da si pozvolia da gi kupia..Edin den ste si gi kupia -ste prezhalia $800 za Macromdeia Studio..VSICHKI drugi rogrami pr men sa zamemeni s bezplatni alternativi. Iskam da pitam borcite srestu piratsrvoto kakva e razlikata da kradesh ot MS,ot RedHat ili ot muziknatite kato slushah mp3 ? Ne sa li vsichki komersialni vendori ? I mogat li s raka na sarceto da kajat DA AZ NE SAM PIRAT-NIMAMAM NITO EDNA KRADEN PROGRAMA ? po taia logika i az sam bokluk zastoto imam 2 piratski programi i niakolko diska s mp3.. Peter An. Zyumbilev Web Developer Administrator BIVOL BULGARIA email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] tel.:+359 88 966940 web: http://www.bivol.net http://www.bivol.net -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Theodor Milkov Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 11:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :) A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :)
Peter An. Zyumbilev wrote: Kolko ot vas, koito osven linux polzvat i widows vkasti im e legalen? Moia e legalen,kkakto i MS office, no imam 2 programi(Macromedia Fireworks,Macromedia Homesite) koito sa ot free.techno-link.com . Sazalivam za tova, no GIMP ne e dobra alternativa na Macromedia Fireworks a HS za men e bez konkurenciaA ne moga da si pozvolia da gi kupia..Edin den ste si gi kupia -ste prezhalia $800 za Macromdeia Studio..VSICHKI drugi rogrami pr men sa zamemeni s bezplatni alternativi. Iskam da pitam borcite srestu piratsrvoto kakva e razlikata da kradesh ot MS,ot RedHat ili ot muziknatite kato slushah mp3 ? Ne sa li vsichki komersialni vendori ? I mogat li s raka na sarceto da kajat DA AZ NE SAM PIRAT-NIMAMAM NITO EDNA KRADEN PROGRAMA ? po taia logika i az sam bokluk zastoto imam 2 piratski programi i niakolko diska s mp3.. Maleee stom ti si boklyk az sam smradlivo blatno 4ydoviste na N-ta stepen kato N kloni kam + brzkrainost niakoi ot vas go vzemat mnogo na vatre foryma... Take it easy baby... A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :)
- Original Message - From: Georgi Chorbadzhiyski [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 2:54 PM Subject: Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :) Ivaylo Toshev wrote: Tozi softuer, koito vsichki vseki den polzvame. S prostashkata si postypka, Boris im kazva mainata vi, mrete!. Ne e li redno vse pak Redhat da poluchat neshto? Po-dolu shte komentiram... Imashe iskane i za krack na VMware i drugi. I biaha prateni kadeto se polagat takiva iskania - napravo v /dev/null a spored men avtorite na takiva vyprosi triabva da bydat blacklist'nati i da im se zabrani dostypa do listata. Nishto, che te posle pod drugo ime shte se abonirat i ot drug adres (nai-veche mail.bg). Prosto tova e edin vid protest sreshtu prostotiata i naglostta im. I na saita da se slozhi edno mestence sys spisyk na tezi junaci, kakto i s prichina zashto e bil blacklist'nat. A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :)
- Original Message - From: Georgi Chorbadzhiyski [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 6:36 PM Subject: Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :) Peter An. Zyumbilev wrote: Kolko ot vas, koito osven linux polzvat i widows vkasti im e legalen? Moia e legalen,kkakto i MS office, no imam 2 programi(Macromedia Fireworks,Macromedia Homesite) koito sa ot free.techno-link.com . Sazalivam za tova, no GIMP ne e dobra alternativa na Macromedia Fireworks a HS za men e bez konkurenciaA ne moga da si pozvolia da gi kupia..Edin den ste si Tova ne te izviniava che go polzvash. Ne sa li vsichki komersialni vendori ? I mogat li s raka na sarceto da kajat DA AZ NE SAM PIRAT-NIMAMAM NITO EDNA KRADEN PROGRAMA ? Az moga da go kazha ot dosta vreme. Blagodaria. po taia logika i az sam bokluk zastoto imam 2 piratski programi i niakolko diska s mp3.. Ne si bokluk no si takyv koito vredi na softuernite proizvoditeli. Edin primer koito mnogo obicham da davam. Wseki si vika abe Adobe goliama kompania niama da gi zaboli ot tova che az polzvam Photoshop shtoto sam beden student. DA Adobe niama da gi zaboli no ia si pomislete za avtorite na PaintShop Pro primerno, koito struva $50 i ima 85% ot vazmozhnostite na Photoshop. Poradi tova che ti pozlvash for free programa koito struva $800 gubiat tezi koito predlaga alternativa na razumna cena. Something to think about. Imenno. Az vinagi sym kazval che pytia kym populiarizaciata i masovizaciata na Linux minava prez drakonovskite merki za nezakonen softuer. Taka raznite muhliovci deto polzvat Windows shte se pocheshat i shte poglednat seriozno na Linux. Plus tova prosto proumeite che tezi hora tam triabva da zhiveqt ot neshto. Dori nai-malkoto da im pokazhete, che uwazhavate truda si. Naprimer avtoryt na MRTG Tobbias kato cena na softuera si e opredelil edno DVD s lubim na nego film. Kato se ima predvid, che go polzvat gigantski organizacii (kato kozhoderite ot BTK naprimer) prosto me hvashta qd. Pomislite kolko ot nas kakva rabota sa si svyrshili s pomoshtta na GPL softuera. Tezi hora tam ne zasluzhavat li blagodarnost za truda si? Pak vi pitam - tozi bandwidth koi go plashta? Vse pak horata rabotiat za bez pari v imeto na ideata. Ia tuka da si vdignat rycete kolko praviat syshtoto? Ili vseki reve, che mu plashtat malko. Prosto Redhat Advanced Server e opit na Redhat da si stypqt avansovo na krakata. Uwazhete pravoto im. Za prostotiata na Toshko Yankov pyk ne iskam da govoria. Tozi, koito tyrseshe crack za RAV. Sluchaino poznavam edin ot developerite v RAV (beshe mi bivsh kolega). Kazva se Claudio Farcas. Ami picha e beden kato cyrkovna mishka. Ne znam kak da kazha i dali shte mi poviarvate, no predi godina PC-to mu niamashe CD-ROM. Prosto picha nqmashe $40 za CD-ROM. V syshtoto vreme bai vi Toshko si dzhitka Quake ili kvoto e tam na PC-to (koeto sym uveren e blizo do 1GHz). Ami DA, shte prodylzha da naricham takiva hora BOKLUCI. I ne bih zhelal da imam nishto obshto s tiah. GPL softuera se izdyrzha ot darenia (donations). T.e. horata razchitat na morala. V sluchaia tova sa i napravili Redhat - nikoi ne vi goni s policia i BULSA za nelegalnia Redhat AS. Horata prosto razchitat na morala. E... tezi koito go niamat tozi moral... kak drugo iache osven BOKLUCI da se narekat? A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
RE: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :)
Sravniavash iabylki i portokali, mp3-tata niamat nishto obshto s narushavaneto na licenzite na softuera. Pri muzikata rabotata stoi po savsem razlichen nachin kakvo shte kazhesh za kolekciata mi ot diskovete koito sam ia encodnal za da si ia slusham? Diskovete sam si gi kupil. Niamash nito edna downloadnata MP3-ka ? I kakva e razlikat mejdu mp3 i software - i v dvata sluchaia kradesh intelektualen produkt i ostetiavash avtorite mu ? Peter An. Zyumbilev Web Developer Administrator BIVOL BULGARIA email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] tel.:+359 88 966940 web: http://www.bivol.net http://www.bivol.net A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :)
Ne si bokluk no si takyv koito vredi na softuernite proizvoditeli. Edin primer koito mnogo obicham da davam. Wseki si vika abe Adobe goliama kompania niama da gi zaboli ot tova che az polzvam Photoshop shtoto sam beden student. DA Adobe niama da gi zaboli no ia si pomislete za avtorite na PaintShop Pro primerno, koito struva $50 i ima 85% ot vazmozhnostite na Photoshop. Poradi tova che ti pozlvash for free programa koito struva $800 gubiat tezi koito predlaga alternativa na razumna cena. A ia si predstavi che vzimash zaplata 180 leva mesechno i plashtash po 80 leva za tok edi kolksi za hrana, voda i drugi mesechni jizneno vajni razhodi. I kato pochti ne iadesh nishto drugo osven hliab, maioneza i ketchup i edvam si skalypil za niakoia mashinka second hand niakoi drug lev. Pri tova polojenie triabva da t ikaja che i lev ne davam za software kakyvto i da bilo i ako shte da zasegna celia sviat. No ako vzimam 500-800 leva mesechno vyznagrajnenie togava drugo shte prikazvam. Zashtoto togava shte moga da si go pozvolia. E tam e tynkata razlika. Edno e da go iskash syvsem drugo e da mojesh da si go pozvolish. Az polzvam piratski software no ne me e sram ot tova. Sram me e ot tova che jiveia v takava skapana strana deto 90% ot naselenieto jivee pod kritichnata granica na bednostta a drugote 10% sa oneia deto apelirat za zakupuvaneto na legalen software bez da misliat mojesh li ili ne. Pozdravi. mano A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :)
- Original Message - From: Marian Popov [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 8:27 PM Subject: Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :) Ne si bokluk no si takyv koito vredi na softuernite proizvoditeli. Edin primer koito mnogo obicham da davam. Wseki si vika abe Adobe goliama kompania niama da gi zaboli ot tova che az polzvam Photoshop shtoto sam beden student. DA Adobe niama da gi zaboli no ia si pomislete za avtorite na PaintShop Pro primerno, koito struva $50 i ima 85% ot vazmozhnostite na Photoshop. Poradi tova che ti pozlvash for free programa koito struva $800 gubiat tezi koito predlaga alternativa na razumna cena. A ia si predstavi che vzimash zaplata 180 leva mesechno i plashtash po 80 leva za tok edi kolksi za hrana, voda i drugi mesechni jizneno vajni razhodi. I kato pochti ne iadesh nishto drugo osven hliab, maioneza i ketchup i edvam si skalypil za niakoia mashinka second hand niakoi drug lev. Pri tova polojenie triabva da t ikaja che i lev ne davam za software kakyvto i da bilo i ako shte da zasegna celia sviat. No ako vzimam 500-800 leva mesechno vyznagrajnenie togava drugo shte prikazvam. Zashtoto togava shte moga da si go pozvolia. E tam e tynkata razlika. Edno e da go iskash syvsem drugo e da mojesh da si go pozvolish. Az polzvam piratski software no ne me e sram ot tova. Sram me e ot tova che jiveia v takava skapana strana deto 90% ot naselenieto jivee pod kritichnata granica na bednostta a drugote 10% sa oneia deto apelirat za zakupuvaneto na legalen software bez da misliat mojesh li ili ne. Pozdravi. mano Aide pak. Ti mu vikash - kume Ivane, to... Tochno za tova kazah, che IZKLUCHVAM home userite, poradi silno ogranichenite im finansovi vazmozhnosti v povecheto sluchai. I pak shte kazha - DA ME IZVINIAVA niakoi home user, koito polzva Redhat Advanced Server. Tochno zaradi tova vdignah skandal - zaradi korporativen produkt. Koito v 99% ot sluchaite se izpolzva ot organizacii, koito mogat da si pozvolqt da go zakupiat. A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
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Aide pak. Ti mu vikash - kume Ivane, to... Tochno za tova kazah, che IZKLUCHVAM home userite, poradi silno ogranichenite im finansovi vazmozhnosti v povecheto sluchai. I pak shte kazha - DA ME IZVINIAVA niakoi home user, koito polzva Redhat Advanced Server. Tochno zaradi tova vdignah skandal - zaradi korporativen produkt. Koito v 99% ot sluchaite se izpolzva ot organizacii, koito mogat da si pozvolqt da go zakupiat. Taka razbiram izviniavam se. A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :)
Towa si e flame no da se otbelezha :) Peter An. Zyumbilev wrote: V sluchaia i da se naseresh ne mozhesh da me ubedish, che Redhat Advanced Server shte se polzva ot home user !!! Ste ti dam primer: http://www.sap.com/linux Predlgat democd za Sap Basis chasta ot SAP R/3 za linux Tova zhivotno po princip varvi i na obiknoven linux(trudno-tonove problemi) no za da vidish kak realno stavat nestata ti triabva: SLES(Suse Linux Enterprise Server) http://www.suse.com/sles ili RedHat Advanced Server http://www.redhat.com/software/advancedserver/ Az ako iskam da si testvam vkasti za da si razvia znanie i umeniata.? Kkav korporativen klinet sam ? Dobyr primer, a eto i oshte edin - ako sym organizacija kojato se chudi - triabwa li mi edi-kakyw si software ili ne i iskam da go testwam ... ami naj-dobrija wariant e da si go nameria piratski.. Obache si super glupawo da reklamirash warez w publichni listi .. to chowek triabwa da umee i tyrsachki da polzwa. Edno e produkt da se polzva ot home user i toi da ne si go plati, shtoto produkta e raven na godishnata mu zaplata. Chesto ne e do pari a do mantalitet - spravka: FlexWord Chesto e i do dwete, no ima pone oshte edin faktor - udobstwoto, ako moga da si plashtam ot mojata mnogostradalna debitna karta software po internet, zhiwotyt mi shte e mnogo po-lesen i legalen, ne che sega ne e, no mnogo pyti bih predpochel da si dam simwolichnata suma kojato iska proizwoditelia, otkolkoto da se prawia na crako-iskatel. W bg mezhdu drugoto imashe i edna ne do tam losha alternatiwa na nachin na razplashtane - http://muzik.store.bg/ - ot tam si kupih CD i beshe mnogo udobno sutrinta si go porychah na obiad go donese edna prijatna dewojka ;-) az si go platih i wsichki biahme dowolni :) Taka che kolegite ot dateks zashto ne pomisliat nad problema ? Drugo e kogato produkt prednazhchen za korporativni potrebiteli se polzva nelegalno. Az ne vijdam razlika i komapniat ste i donese pari tova i na home usera samo che na home usera pod formata na badesta zaplata... Ami da taka e da ne zabrawiame, che towa shte donese pari i na proizwoditelia :) Zashtoto kakto mnogo dobre znajat i ot MS wklichitelno, chowek e sklonen da iziskwa poznatoto mu obkryzhenie :) Taka che ako Pesho si ima RH AS @home, goliama e werojatnostta toj, ako ne e posleden praznoglawec, da si go poiska i @work A e hubawo da go kupi poradi takiwa prichini kato support updates ...etc. :) Oswen towa az naprimer syshto si imam piratska wersiaja na AS, w momenta nikyde ne e instalirana, no si ja izdrypah za da widia kak se prawi cluster spored RH, tyj da se kazhe, interesno mi e, kakwo shte mi dade AS-a ako si go kupia ? Kato primer za zakupuwane na netestwan software kojto sym kupuwal ot imeto na firmata za kojato sym rabotil, shte posocha slednite: RAV - super bygaw scener, kojto prosto si beshe zaguba na pari, nikoga ne bih go kupil ako go biah iztestwal predwaritelno, no chowek se uchi. Cyrilla - tazi kirilca za w98 si imashe syshto swoite izklichitelni, malki gadosti, koito chestno kazano ama nikak ne mi haresaha i se prinudih da napazaruwam i flextype. I na kraja shte otbelezha, che kakto ne mi e prijatno da cheta w luga e-mail na tema kak da otkradna edi-kakwo si po syshtija nachin ne e prijatno da razbiram intimni podrobnosti ot sorta che edi-koj si bil razbirash li bokluk :) Ima si lichni e-maili za towa :) a i wremenata na konsko pred stroja maj sa minali /za dobro ili losho:/ uspeh :) Tsvetin A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :)
otnovo shte zapochna mail, koito nqkoi shte iztylkuvat kato flame ili kato ponizhavane kachestvoto na listata. Ama tova prosto e netyrpimo. Edinstvenia legalen nachin da se sdobiesh s Redhat Advanced Server e osven da si go kupish (cenata ne e 25lv), e da si go kompilirash ot source RPM. Niakoi ot tazi lista (da, shte izbroia imena) taka sa se pouvliakli v dumata GPL, che napravo si karat po starite pytishta na warez. Tova, che goliama chast ot Linux softuera e bezplaten (GPL), syvsem ne znachi, che vsichko triabva da e bezplatno. Ima i komersialni prilozhenia za Linux. Prosto avtoryt/kompaniata e reshila che tova imenno prilozhenie shte e plateno i tova e. TOVA SI E TIAHNO PRAVO, UWAZHAVAITE GO. Ako ne vi iznasia - ne polzvaite softuera i tova e. Prosto choveka e iskal pyk da poluchi niakakva finansova polza ot nego. Ima pravoto. Po Linux forumite veche zapochnaha da se ochertavat takiva ponqtiq kato giver i taker. Taker e chovek, koito obicha da mufti (da, ama na Zapad takiva dumi kato - avanta, mufta, tynka laisna i t.n. oshte ne sa definirani)... Toi sedi vyv forumite i gi polzva samo ako triabva da popita neshto, za da si swyrshi rabotata po-lesno. A za Linux community-to i razvitieto na GPL softuera - boli go dedovia. Wazhnoto e toi da si vyrshi rabotata dobre i shefovete da go potupkvat po gyrba i da se hvali kakyv dobyr administrator e. Na mnogo malko hora tuk im uvirat glavite, che vse pak horata, koito rabotqt po GPL softuera triabva da zhiveqt ot neshto. Kompaniite sushto. Tova e nai-malkoto zaplati na horata, ofis, PC-ta, bandwidth i prochie. Zatova te puskat free, no pone ot neshto triabva da doidat pari. Estestveno home usera ne mozhe da se chanchi za po $50 (osobeno v razvivashti se strani). No Redhat Advanced Server ne se polzva ot home useri, a ot korporativni klienti, za koito da rechem i $300 ne e problem. Imenno zaradi tova i Mandrake obiaviha falit. Shte perefraziram edin amerikanski prezident s malko izmenenia: Ne misli kakvo Linux community-to shte napravi za teb, pomisli kakvo TI mozhesh da napravish za Linux community-to. Da, ama na bylgarskia administrator kvo mu puka. Toi se kefi kogato izleze novata versia na kernel, distro'to, MRTG, Apache i t.n. Svalia, instalira i polzva. I vika: ebi mu maikata, ebasi admina sym... glei kak tuka vyrtq vsichko. I natiska da mu se plashta poveche, shtoto e velik. Ami ne, v sluchaia e edin obiknoven taker ili po nashenski - avantadzhia. Sled rabotno vreme otiva da pie bira s drugite admini i pochvat da si gi meriat, koi kolko e velik. A v syshtoto vreme, Linux community-to si vadi ochite - koi pishe softuer, koi tutoriali... Za da mogat utre takerite kato si otidat po rabotnite mesta, da ima kvo da muftiat. Nikoi li ot vas ne se e zamislql otkyde idva vscihko tova? Ili pone da sedne s edin list i da slozhi v dve nachertani grafi tova koeto e polzvat ot Linux community'to i tova koeto e dal. I da vidi krainata smetka. Redhat sponsorirat developvaneto na Linux prilozhenia. Te poddyrzhat finansovo horata, koito pishat GPL softuer. Tozi softuer, koito vsichki vseki den polzvame. S prostashkata si postypka, Boris im kazva mainata vi, mrete!. Ne e li redno vse pak Redhat da poluchat neshto? Nai-gnusnoto e, che nikoi ne se vyzmuti ot postupkata na Boris. Predi vreme Toshko Yankov publichno v listata poiska crack za antivirusnia softuer RAV. Otnovo imashe mylchanie. Tova govori za haraktera na uchastnicite v listata. E tova li e bylgarskoto Linux obshtestvo? Mnogo bi mi se iskalo da izpratia tova do Redhat, kakto i da post'na prostotiite v Linux forumite (pone na redhat), no tova napravo shte nasrami imeto na Bylgaria v Linux sredite. InterBGcom derat dobri pari ot klientite si za Internet. Te s v pravoto si da iziskvat kakvito im skimne ceni za uslugite, koito predlagat. Ako na niakoi ne mu iznasia - da tyrsi drugade. Prosto ne bih si predstavil kakvo mozhe da se sluchi, ako nqkoi po nqkakyv nachin izpolzva po GPL'ski Internet kanala im. A e kazano: ne pravi tova, koeto ne iskash da ti praviat na teb. Prosto ne znam kak da prodylzha. Otvratitelno e tova. Sled kato nikoi ne se vyzmuti ot tova po-dolu, na men prosto ne mi ostava drugo osven lichno za sebe si da premahna statusa na tozi mailing-list ot Bylgarsko Linux obeshtestvo na Community of bulgarian IT crooks. E az v takova ne bih zhelal kategorichno da uchastvam. A Boris Stoev ot tozi moment za men se preimenuva na bokluk. - Original Message - From: Boris Stoev [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 10:22 AM Subject: Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :) http://free.techno-link.com/seventh/---===Linux===---/RED.HAT.LINUX.ADVANCE D.SERVER.V2.1/ a drugiqt variqnt e da si go kupish za 25 leva ot: http://www.CDforME.net/product_info.php?cPath=20_21products_id=69 tretiqt variant e : da vi go zapisha :) On Tue, 2003-02-04 at 17:22, Valentin Tzankov wrote: Az mislja che se predlaga samo pre
Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :)
On Sat, Feb 22, 2003 at 04:29:26PM +0200, Teodor Georgiev wrote: cut Edinstvenia legalen nachin da se sdobiesh s Redhat Advanced Server e osven da si go kupish (cenata ne e 25lv), e da si go kompilirash ot source RPM. Niakoi ot tazi lista (da, shte izbroia imena) taka sa se pouvliakli v dumata GPL, che napravo si karat po starite pytishta na warez. cut Napalno sam saglasen. Mejdu drugoto dosta se pokolebah dali da ne obarna vnimanie na choveka s warezite oshte pri originalnia message, no sum tvarde miroliubiv. Ednakvo illegal e da si svalish ot niakoi warez Windows XP, 3D Studio Max ili RedHat Advanced Server. Ne go pravete ili pone ne tolkova naglo... -- Theodor MilkovHead Network Administrator Davidov Net Phone: +359 (2) 730158 A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy
On Sat, 22 Feb 2003, Teodor Georgiev wrote: Nai-gnusnoto e, che nikoi ne se vyzmuti ot postupkata na Boris. Predi vreme Toshko Yankov publichno v listata poiska crack za antivirusnia softuer RAV. Otnovo imashe mylchanie. Tova govori za haraktera na uchastnicite v listata. .. , flame . . happy hacking, velin A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :)
On 22 02 2003 16:29, Teodor Georgiev wrote: Niakoi ot tazi lista (da, shte izbroia imena) taka sa se pouvliakli v dumata GPL, che napravo si karat po starite pytishta na warez. za syzhalenie tuka sme po zle ot dyrzhavata Tanzaniq... mnogo golqma 4ast ot ezhdnvieto ni e warez;-) Po Linux forumite veche zapochnaha da se ochertavat takiva ponqtiq kato giver i taker. Taker e chovek, koito obicha da mufti (da, ama na Zapad takiva dumi kato - avanta, mufta, tynka laisna i t.n. oshte ne sa definirani)... Toi sedi vyv forumite i gi polzva samo ako triabva da popita neshto, za da si swyrshi rabotata po-lesno. Ne mnogo hora sa naqsno s ponqtieto open source ... legal tech view. Ta po povod na takers and givers story, moga da forward-na edna leka diskusijka s (predusestam) dosta naprednal potrebitel v koqto imah 4esta da u4astvam. !!! Silno cenzurirana ot men (za syzhalenie se gubqt dosta interesni momenti ) za da se zapazi anonimnostta na avtora, vse pak !!! Ne sym polu4il negovoto odobrenie da post-na tova v public forum kato tozi, no ne pozhela i obratnoto, za tova vse pak az ste zapazq anonimostta mu, po interesno e sydyrzhanieto koeto e napisal. -- Forwarded Message -- ;-) Pyrvo 10x za systoqtelniq otgovor, az naistina mislq 4e trqbva da go forward-nesh kym lug-bg i debian-bg za da se poosyznaqt malko horata, yova e must-read. Ako iskash go poredaktiraj malko za da posmek4ish nestata ako smetnesh 4e trqbva. Az ne moga da go forward-na bez da znam dali ti bi iskal tova. A i ti si avtora na tozi must-read i mislq 4e trqbva da go spodelish s raznite fenove ... Syvsem seriozno ... Ako trqbva kazhi 4e e preprateno po moq molba ... i ako iskash go preprati s moite comentari, nqmam nisto protiv... Chestno kazano ne mi se zanimava. Ne che me murzi, no veche ne viarvam che ste stane nesto. Mislia se che w BG vsichki sa gadni smukachi - samo gledat kak da smuchat kakvoto doide - dokumenti, files etc., ama nikoi ne iska da si mrudne prusta. Ste te chakat da vidiat dokude ste stignesh i sled kato ti pisne da se buhtash na viatura, sled vreme niakoi drug ste pochne sustia proekt. Ei tova sa bulgarchetata - ne iskam da mi e dobre, a na Bute da mu e zle. Absolutno si prav ! I az go znam tova i dosta drugi hora ... No polozhenieto v BG ne e rozovo, vseki se spasqva kak se seti ;-), pove4eto hora sa egoisti4ni i profanizirani do ne malka stepen, ima go i drugoto de, ima i lipsa na svobodno vreme ... Ti sigurno si somewhere abroad... tam vi e po-lesno , vypreki 4e se skysvate ot ba4kane, no pyk go pravite s udovolstvie ... Tova e ot opit. Kakvi li ne projects pochvah --cut-- sledvat negovi projects. erazed ! za da ne se izdava samoli4nostta mu. mda, mda, mda ... Prav si ... mnogo zhalko ... no vse pak mozhe da ima nqkakvo nedorazumenie, t.e. tezi hora da ne sa znaeli za tvoite projects ? --cut--mnogo-konkretni-data ! za da ne se izdava samoli4nostta mu. Ta si mislia - ei go na ste se bluskame edin-dvama, ste prizovavame za pomost, ste iskame mnenie, ama nikoi niama da si mrudne prusta. Samo mulchat i smuchat. I sled 2-3 meseca, kato ni pisne i sprem eto ti novina - Debian-Albania prevedena na bulgarski stupva na pazara. Ei za tova ne mi se pochva. Ste te ubedq az oba4e de ;-) Za sega moze i bez CVS commit access. po-lesno ste e na vsi4ki i na teb vklu4itelno ti da pravish tazi rabota edin pyt, a ne edin pyt ti i nie posle da namestvame v latex-a ... Ako iskash si napravi i edin file queue/zhware i store-vaj vytre, pyk kato ti dojde muzata commit-vash v LaTeX-a ;-) Ste se radvam da pomogna. a tova e prikazka ... Oba4e sled kato me pomy4ish malko dokato te ubedq da commit-vash ili po-rano .. neka si spestim ubezhddeniqta please ;-) Napisanoto ot men moga da izprastam na niakogo za odobrenie/redakcia/commit to CVS --- -- printk(Greets, fr33zb1\n); A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server -- download+buy :)
http://free.techno-link.com/seventh/@---===Linux===---/RED.HAT.LINUX.ADVANCED.SERVER.V2.1/ a drugiqt variqnt e da si go kupish za 25 leva ot: http://www.CDforME.net/product_info.php?cPath=20_21products_id=69 tretiqt variant e : da vi go zapisha :) On Tue, 2003-02-04 at 17:22, Valentin Tzankov wrote: Az mislja che se predlaga samo pre-instaliran. Spetzialno nie polzvame Red Hat Linux Advanced Server v/u SG i az ne vijdam kak ste proraboti v/u druga archetectura, predpolaga che systoto vaji za versiite v/u HP i IBM. A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server
Zdraveyte, znae li nyakoy, otkade moje da se svali RedHat Advanced Server? Dimitar A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server
On Tue, 4 Feb 2003, [iso-8859-1] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: znae li nyakoy, otkade moje da se svali RedHat Advanced Server? RedHat Advanced Server å ïëàòåí, è â òîçè êîíòåêñò íà ìèñëè, íåìîæå äà ñå ñâàëè ëåãàëíî îò íèêúäå. happy hacking, velin A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server
99 % sum siguren che go ima na SRPM ! vse pak RedHat ne mogat da se skriat ot GPL potursi iz mirrorite. Íà âò, 2003-02-04 â 16:22, Alexander Velin çàïèñà: On Tue, 4 Feb 2003, [iso-8859-1] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: znae li nyakoy, otkade moje da se svali RedHat Advanced Server? RedHat Advanced Server å ïëàòåí, è â òîçè êîíòåêñò íà ìèñëè, íåìîæå äà ñå ñâàëè ëåãàëíî îò íèêúäå. happy hacking, velin A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
RE: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server
Edinstweniqt na4in, da se sdobie6 legalno s nego e da go kompilirash ot SRPM: ftp://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/enterprise/2.1AS/en/os/i386/SRPMS/ ftp://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/enterprise/2.1AS/en/os/ia64/SRPMS/ Best e-gards, Georgi Sinapov -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 12:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server Zdraveyte, znae li nyakoy, otkade moje da se svali RedHat Advanced Server? A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server
Az mislja che se predlaga samo pre-instaliran. Spetzialno nie polzvame Red Hat Linux Advanced Server v/u SG i az ne vijdam kak ste proraboti v/u druga archetectura, predpolaga che systoto vaji za versiite v/u HP i IBM. A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
Re: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server
na linux-bg.org ima baner nai otgore ot tam moje6 da si go pory4a6 po po6tata za 5 do 15 leva koeto ak si pla6ta6 interneta na trafik moje da ti izleze dori po-izgodno -- krasimir On 4 Feb 2003, Ivaylo Toshev wrote: 99 % sum siguren che go ima na SRPM ! vse pak RedHat ne mogat da se skriat ot GPL potursi iz mirrorite. Íà âò, 2003-02-04 â 16:22, Alexander Velin çàïèñà: On Tue, 4 Feb 2003, [iso-8859-1] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: znae li nyakoy, otkade moje da se svali RedHat Advanced Server? RedHat Advanced Server å ïëàòåí, è â òîçè êîíòåêñò íà ìèñëè, íåìîæå äà ñå ñâàëè ëåãàëíî îò íèêúäå. happy hacking, velin A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
RE: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server
Ok, blagodarya! Dimitar - Original Message - From: Georgi Sinapov [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 4:07 PM Subject: RE: lug-bg: RedHat Advanced Server Edinstweniqt na4in, da se sdobie6 legalno s nego e da go kompilirash ot SRPM: ftp://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/enterprise/2.1AS/en/os/i386/SRPMS/ ftp://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/enterprise/2.1AS/en/os/ia64/SRPMS/ Best e-gards, Georgi Sinapov A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
