[LUTE] Re: Medival lute

2007-07-27 Thread Sean Smith

Hi Omer,

This was a project by Dick Hoban a couple of years ago. Since then Dick 
has put out 2 more (!) and I'm working on another myself. It's all 
music from the 15th century and is mostly taken from vocal sources and 
organ manuscripts.

Masters of Polyphony:

Vol. 1
A Survey of 15th Century Music for Renaissance Lute.

Vol. 2
The Polyphony of Johannes Touront and his world.

Vol. 3
The Music of Conrad Paumann and his world. (The Lochamer Liederbuch & 
the Buxheimer Orgelbuch, Part one)

These are all in French tab and fairly large books each. More info is at
www.lyremusic.com

all the best,

Sean Smith


On Jul 27, 2007, at 10:41 AM, Omer katzir wrote:

> i heard about a book of Medieval solo pieces for lute. and now...I'm
> looking for book like that.
> any one can give me some info?
>
> thank's all
>
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[LUTE] Re: alza - Calata ala Spagnola

2007-07-27 Thread Narada
Eh??

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Wow, everybody must use the same Cliff notes.
 
Lou Aull

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[LUTE] Re: alza - Calata ala Spagnola

2007-07-27 Thread Louis Aull
Wow, everybody must use the same Cliff notes.
 
Lou Aull

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[LUTE] Re: alza - Calata ala Spagnola

2007-07-27 Thread G. Crona
Dear Susanne,

this is what I found:

"Calata - the name may be derived from the Italian "calle" ("path" or small 
street) c.f. German Gassenhauer & passacalle. In a poem of c. 1420 
Prudenzani cited the playing of "Calata de maritima et compagnia," 
interpreted
by Debendetti as referring to dance songs of these regions. Solerti 
mentioned that the Calata was danced at the court of Florence as late as 
1615. Few musical examples are still extant. They extend in time from 
Dalza's lute book of 1508 to Montesardo's guitar tablature of 1606. Dalza 
closed his book with 13 examples, the first for 2 lutes. Most are in the 3/1 
= 6/2 metre and have regular phrases characteristic of the saltarello. Of 
the six that he qualified as "ala Spagnola" three are in the reduced values 
that characterised the piva (in 6/4). Other qualifying words in the titles 
include "de stramboti" (no.3) and "ditto terzetti" (no.13) hinting at an 
association with strophic texts. The calata was probably used as a ripresa, 
i.e. as music that preceded, followed or alternated with a dance or song."

Best wishes

G.
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To: 
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 8:11 PM
Subject: [LUTE] Dalza - Calata ala Spagnola


> Dear all,
>
> At the moment I'm playing the piece "Calata ala Spagnola" by Dalza. I 
> searched for information about the special sort of dance "Calata" but 
> didn't find anything. Is there anybody who knows which characteristics 
> this dance type has? I'm also a little confused about the form of the 
> piece - it begins with 10 bars and continues in sections of 8 bars.
>
> Would be grateful for any information about this piece,
>
> kind regards,
>
> Susanne 



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[LUTE] Re: Dalza - Calata ala Spagnola

2007-07-27 Thread Roman Turovsky
Calata.
A 16th-century dance. The derivation of the term is obscure, but could be 
from a region in Transylvanian Romania; from the Italian calare (‘descend’, 
to ‘lower’, to ‘fall’); from the Spanish calado, referring to figures of the 
Spanish church dances, in which rows of dancers interweave or intersect each 
other; from the Italian callota (calotta) (‘skull cap’); or from the Italian 
calle (‘path’, ‘way’ or ‘narrow street’ in Venice; cf the German Gassenhauer 
and Spanish passacalle). In a poem of about 1420 Prudenzani cited the 
playing of ‘calate de maritima et compagnia’, interpreted by Debenedetti as 
referring to dance-songs of these regions. Solerti mentioned that the calata 
was danced at the court of Florence as late as 1615. Few musical examples 
are still extant. They extend in time from the manuscript F-Pn Rés.Vm 27 
(c1505; facs. (Geneva, 1981) with introduction by F. Lesure) and Dalza's 
lutebook of 1508 (see BrownI) to Montesardo's guitar tablature of 1606 and 
the manuscript guitar tablature D-HR III 4½ 20 1046 (c1700). Dalza closed 
his book with 13 examples, the first for two lutes. Most are in duple metre 
and have regular phrases. Of the six that he qualified ‘spagnola’, three are 
in triple metre. Other qualifying words in the titles include ‘de stramboti’ 
(no.3) and ‘ditto terzetti’ (no.13), hinting at an association with strophic 
texts.

BIBLIOGRAPHY
BrownI

SolertiMBD

S. Debenedetti: Il ‘Sollazzo’: contributi alla storia della novella, della 
poesia musicale e del costume nel Trecento (Turin, 1922)

L.H. Moe: Dance Music in Printed Italian Lute Tablatures from 1507 to 1611 
(diss., Harvard U., 1956)

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Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 2:11 PM
Subject: [LUTE] Dalza - Calata ala Spagnola


> Dear all,
>
> At the moment I'm playing the piece "Calata ala Spagnola" by Dalza. I 
> searched for information about the special sort of dance "Calata" but 
> didn't find anything. Is there anybody who knows which characteristics 
> this dance type has? I'm also a little confused about the form of the 
> piece - it begins with 10 bars and continues in sections of 8 bars.
>
> Would be grateful for any information about this piece,
>
> kind regards,
>
> Susanne
>
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[LUTE] Dalza - Calata ala Spagnola

2007-07-27 Thread Susanne Herre
Dear all,

At the moment I'm playing the piece "Calata ala Spagnola" by Dalza. I searched 
for information about the special sort of dance "Calata" but didn't find 
anything. Is there anybody who knows which characteristics this dance type has? 
I'm also a little confused about the form of the piece - it begins with 10 bars 
and continues in sections of 8 bars. 

Would be grateful for any information about this piece,

kind regards,

Susanne
 
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[LUTE] Re: Continuo

2007-07-27 Thread LGS-Europe
But be forwarned: the theorbo examples are transcirbed without taking a
proper re-entrant tuning into consideration ...

David


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> Excellent, David, thanks!
>
> - Original Message - 
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> To: "lutelist Net" ; "ariel"
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> Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 3:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Continuo
>
>
>>> As you may have read, I'm only interested in a certain repertoire, and I
>>> do
>>
>> There's a German edition with all early 17th century sources of continuo
>> nicely listed and analysed. Very thorough, one volume  'Traktate und
>> Vorworte' and a second volume 'Notenbeispiele'. Lute sources are
>> included. german required, but perhaps what you're looking for:
>>
>> Irmtraut Freiberg
>> "Der Frühe Italienische Generalbass dargestellt anhand der Quellen von
>> 1595 bis 1655'
>> Olms 2004
>> www.olms.de
>>
>> It wasn't all that expensive, although I conveniently forgot what I paid
>> for it exactly, but in any case it is the kind of book a good library
>> should have or can order for you.
>>
>> David
>>
>>
>> 
>> David van Ooijen
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[LUTE] Re: hindemith

2007-07-27 Thread LGS-Europe
Poulenc did similar things  with pieces by Gervaise in his Suite Francaise 
for piano. I arranged his Bransle de Bourgogne and play it alongside a very 
similar Branle de Bourgoigne from Phalese. Makes a nice contrast in a 
concert.

David


>>> Suite franz=F6sischer Tanze
>>> aus den von Pierre d'Attaignant gedruckten Livres de Danceries"
>>> des Claude
>>> Gervaise und Estienne du Tertre fur kleines Orchester eingerichtet
>>> (1948)
>>>
>>> 1. Pavane und Gaillarde  =B7 2. Tourdion =B7 3. Bransle simple =B7 4.
>>> Bransle de
>>> Bourgogne =B7
>>>
>>> 5. Bransle simple =B7 6. Bransle d'Escosse =B7 7. Pavane, wie am
>>> Anfang
>>>
>>> (Vorschlag) Picc. =B7 1 =B7 1 =B7 Engl. Hr. =B7 0 =B7 1 - 1 =B7 0 =B7
>>> 0 =B7 0 -
>>> Laute - Str.
>>>
>>> 9'
>>>
>>> Partitur CON 76 =B7 Orchesterstimmen CON 76-50 =B7 Streicher-
>>> Erganzungssatz CON
>>> 76-60
>>>
>>>
>>> Peter
>>
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[LUTE] Re: hindemith

2007-07-27 Thread Howard Posner
It's not surprising that Hindemith would do arrangements of pieces 
Attaignant published.  He directed the collegium at Yale.

On Friday, Jul 27, 2007, at 01:56 America/Los_Angeles, Ed Durbrow wrote:

> Well, what do you know?! I'm surprised I've never heard of these
> before. Any recordings, I wonder? I wonder what tuning is called for.
> My only experience with 20th cen. composers is with Toru Takamitsu.
> The lute part for Sacrifice is written for a lute in E tuned like a
> guitar. :-/
>
> On Jul 27, 2007, at 5:38 PM, Peter van Nieuwkoop wrote:
>
>> Hindemith did write for the lute, but this is all that I've found
>> on the
>> website below.
>>
>>
>> http://www.hindemith.org/D/paul-hindemith/Werkverzeichnis
>>
>> Suite franz=F6sischer Tanze
>> aus den von Pierre d'Attaignant gedruckten Livres de Danceries"
>> des Claude
>> Gervaise und Estienne du Tertre fur kleines Orchester eingerichtet
>> (1948)
>>
>> 1. Pavane und Gaillarde  =B7 2. Tourdion =B7 3. Bransle simple =B7 4.
>> Bransle de
>> Bourgogne =B7
>>
>> 5. Bransle simple =B7 6. Bransle d'Escosse =B7 7. Pavane, wie am 
>> Anfang
>>
>> (Vorschlag) Picc. =B7 1 =B7 1 =B7 Engl. Hr. =B7 0 =B7 1 - 1 =B7 0 =B7 
>> 0 =B7 0 -
>> Laute - Str.
>>
>> 9'
>>
>> Partitur CON 76 =B7 Orchesterstimmen CON 76-50 =B7 Streicher-
>> Erganzungssatz CON
>> 76-60
>>
>>
>> Peter
>
> Ed Durbrow
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[LUTE] Re: hindemith

2007-07-27 Thread Martyn Hodgson
No - it is in the G tuning. I have a copy: 
   
  Edition Breitkopf Nr 5781/Sonate Werk 31 Nr 5/Laute allein (published 1947 
plate No 31274).  The first page specifies the G tuning
   
  David's Op 32/2 'Variationen uber ein Thema fur Blockflote und Laute' (B&H 
5783 published 1949 plate No 31266) also specifies the G tuning.
   
  Both lute parts are in the octave transposing G2 clef (like the modern guitar)
   
  MH

Edward Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Johan Nepomuk David wrote a piece for lute in the 1930's, I believe. It 
was also for a 6 course lute, tuned in E.

ed

At 05:56 PM 7/27/2007 +0900, Ed Durbrow wrote:
>Well, what do you know?! I'm surprised I've never heard of these
>before. Any recordings, I wonder? I wonder what tuning is called for.
>My only experience with 20th cen. composers is with Toru Takamitsu.
>The lute part for Sacrifice is written for a lute in E tuned like a
>guitar. :-/
>
>On Jul 27, 2007, at 5:38 PM, Peter van Nieuwkoop wrote:
>
> > Hindemith did write for the lute, but this is all that I've found
> > on the
> > website below.
> >
> >
> > http://www.hindemith.org/D/paul-hindemith/Werkverzeichnis
> >
> > Suite franz=F6sischer Tanze
> > aus den von Pierre d'Attaignant gedruckten Livres de Danceries"
> > des Claude
> > Gervaise und Estienne du Tertre fur kleines Orchester eingerichtet
> > (1948)
> >
> > 1. Pavane und Gaillarde =B7 2. Tourdion =B7 3. Bransle simple =B7 4.
> > Bransle de
> > Bourgogne =B7
> >
> > 5. Bransle simple =B7 6. Bransle d'Escosse =B7 7. Pavane, wie am Anfang
> >
> > (Vorschlag) Picc. =B7 1 =B7 1 =B7 Engl. Hr. =B7 0 =B7 1 - 1 =B7 0 =B7 0 
> =B7 0 -
> > Laute - Str.
> >
> > 9'
> >
> > Partitur CON 76 =B7 Orchesterstimmen CON 76-50 =B7 Streicher-
> > Erganzungssatz CON
> > 76-60
> >
> >
> > Peter
>
>Ed Durbrow
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[LUTE] Re: hindemith

2007-07-27 Thread Edward Martin
Johan Nepomuk David wrote a piece for lute in the 1930's, I believe.  It 
was also for a 6 course lute, tuned in E.

ed

At 05:56 PM 7/27/2007 +0900, Ed Durbrow wrote:
>Well, what do you know?! I'm surprised I've never heard of these
>before. Any recordings, I wonder? I wonder what tuning is called for.
>My only experience with 20th cen. composers is with Toru Takamitsu.
>The lute part for Sacrifice is written for a lute in E tuned like a
>guitar. :-/
>
>On Jul 27, 2007, at 5:38 PM, Peter van Nieuwkoop wrote:
>
> > Hindemith did write for the lute, but this is all that I've found
> > on the
> > website below.
> >
> >
> > http://www.hindemith.org/D/paul-hindemith/Werkverzeichnis
> >
> > Suite franz=F6sischer Tanze
> > aus den von Pierre d'Attaignant gedruckten Livres de Danceries"
> > des Claude
> > Gervaise und Estienne du Tertre fur kleines Orchester eingerichtet
> > (1948)
> >
> > 1. Pavane und Gaillarde  =B7 2. Tourdion =B7 3. Bransle simple =B7 4.
> > Bransle de
> > Bourgogne =B7
> >
> > 5. Bransle simple =B7 6. Bransle d'Escosse =B7 7. Pavane, wie am Anfang
> >
> > (Vorschlag) Picc. =B7 1 =B7 1 =B7 Engl. Hr. =B7 0 =B7 1 - 1 =B7 0 =B7 0 
> =B7 0 -
> > Laute - Str.
> >
> > 9'
> >
> > Partitur CON 76 =B7 Orchesterstimmen CON 76-50 =B7 Streicher-
> > Erganzungssatz CON
> > 76-60
> >
> >
> > Peter
>
>Ed Durbrow
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[LUTE] Re: hindemith

2007-07-27 Thread LGS-Europe
Edo-san

> My only experience with 20th cen. composers is with Toru Takamitsu.

The Dutch Lute Society (NLV www.luitvereniging.nl) published a catalogue 
with modern works for lute years ago. It was compiled by Ireen Thomas, a 
former student of Satoh, who, as you may know, composed many pieces for 
lute, some available from TREE-edition, many recorded on two cds with works 
exclusively by him (available from the Japanese Lute and Early Guitar 
Society  www.lgs-japan.org Not on the website, I will add them one of these 
days, but I have both in stock). Since the publication of the catalogue many 
new pieces have been written by various composers. I've heard of a German 
loose leaf catalogue with modern lute music that keeps udating itself by 
sending inserts to its subscribers regularly.

> The lute part for Sacrifice is written for a lute in E tuned like a
> guitar. :-/

I played the lute aria from Wagner's Meistersinger once, it calls for a 
Stahlharfe if I'm correct: six strings, tuned like a guitar. But it was 
_very_ well written music.

David


>
> On Jul 27, 2007, at 5:38 PM, Peter van Nieuwkoop wrote:
>
>> Hindemith did write for the lute, but this is all that I've found
>> on the
>> website below.
>>
>>
>> http://www.hindemith.org/D/paul-hindemith/Werkverzeichnis
>>
>> Suite franz=F6sischer Tanze
>> aus den von Pierre d'Attaignant gedruckten Livres de Danceries"
>> des Claude
>> Gervaise und Estienne du Tertre fur kleines Orchester eingerichtet
>> (1948)
>>
>> 1. Pavane und Gaillarde  =B7 2. Tourdion =B7 3. Bransle simple =B7 4.
>> Bransle de
>> Bourgogne =B7
>>
>> 5. Bransle simple =B7 6. Bransle d'Escosse =B7 7. Pavane, wie am Anfang
>>
>> (Vorschlag) Picc. =B7 1 =B7 1 =B7 Engl. Hr. =B7 0 =B7 1 - 1 =B7 0 =B7 0 
>> =B7 0 -
>> Laute - Str.
>>
>> 9'
>>
>> Partitur CON 76 =B7 Orchesterstimmen CON 76-50 =B7 Streicher-
>> Erganzungssatz CON
>> 76-60
>>
>>
>> Peter
>
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[LUTE] Re: hindemith

2007-07-27 Thread Ed Durbrow
Well, what do you know?! I'm surprised I've never heard of these  
before. Any recordings, I wonder? I wonder what tuning is called for.  
My only experience with 20th cen. composers is with Toru Takamitsu.  
The lute part for Sacrifice is written for a lute in E tuned like a  
guitar. :-/

On Jul 27, 2007, at 5:38 PM, Peter van Nieuwkoop wrote:

> Hindemith did write for the lute, but this is all that I've found  
> on the
> website below.
>
>
> http://www.hindemith.org/D/paul-hindemith/Werkverzeichnis
>
> Suite franz=F6sischer Tanze
> aus den von Pierre d'Attaignant gedruckten Livres de Danceries"  
> des Claude
> Gervaise und Estienne du Tertre fur kleines Orchester eingerichtet  
> (1948)
>
> 1. Pavane und Gaillarde  =B7 2. Tourdion =B7 3. Bransle simple =B7 4.  
> Bransle de
> Bourgogne =B7
>
> 5. Bransle simple =B7 6. Bransle d'Escosse =B7 7. Pavane, wie am Anfang
>
> (Vorschlag) Picc. =B7 1 =B7 1 =B7 Engl. Hr. =B7 0 =B7 1 - 1 =B7 0 =B7 0 =B7 0 
> -  
> Laute - Str.
>
> 9'
>
> Partitur CON 76 =B7 Orchesterstimmen CON 76-50 =B7 Streicher- 
> Erganzungssatz CON
> 76-60
>
>
> Peter

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[LUTE] Re: hindemith

2007-07-27 Thread Peter van Nieuwkoop
Hindemith did write for the lute, but this is all that I've found on the
website below.


http://www.hindemith.org/D/paul-hindemith/Werkverzeichnis

Suite französischer Tänze
aus den von Pierre d’Attaignant gedruckten „Livres de Danceries“ des Claude
Gervaise und Estienne du Tertre für kleines Orchester eingerichtet (1948)

1. Pavane und Gaillarde  · 2. Tourdion · 3. Bransle simple · 4. Bransle de
Bourgogne ·

5. Bransle simple · 6. Bransle d’Escosse · 7. Pavane, wie am Anfang

(Vorschlag) Picc. · 1 · 1 · Engl. Hr. · 0 · 1 – 1 · 0 · 0 · 0 – Laute – Str.

9’

Partitur CON 76 · Orchesterstimmen CON 76-50 · Streicher-Ergänzungssatz CON
76-60


Peter

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
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Onderwerp: [LUTE] Re: hindemith


Hindemuth had a spurt of writing compositions for all kinds of
instruments, including recorder. (Jeremy Montague (sp?) wrote to Early
Music decades ago about HIP, objecting to the equally anachronistic
playing of Hindemuth's recorder trio on baroque-fingered instruments!)

I don't have any record of him  writing a Lute Concerto nor
Sonata/ina. Null reports are no proof of non-existance, but there's
one datapoint.

ray

On 7/26/07, Ed Durbrow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Jul 25, 2007, at 7:11 PM, David Tayler wrote:
>
> > Why shouldn't someone be able to really
> > study modern lute (including Hindemith's Concerto
>
> Hindemith composed a lute concerto? Do tell more.
>
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[LUTE] Re: Continuo

2007-07-27 Thread ariel
Gracias Alfonso,

I'm afraid you've got me wrong here.
I'm not interested in learning positions only, as I haven't done that either 
playing XVI th century music.
I was wondering if some fellow player has done a systematic work writing 
down things in a practical way.
As you may know, jazz players do take care of voice leading too, in a 
different way. It is not about playing a chord here or there according to 
their will. In that respect there're a few common elements.

As you may have read, I'm only interested in a certain repertoire, and I do 
not expect to become a continuo player in the next future.
I'm involved with other repertoires, but I thought it would be good to get 
familiar with this sort of things too.
I'm familiar with g' tunning, know where the notes are, know how things 
occur in counterpoint terms, so theorbo or guitar I'm afraid I'll keep them 
aside.

In any case, thanks for your comments. I'll see if I get along with it.

Salud,

Ariel.



> Dear Ariel,
>
> I think that you starting up from a wrong concept. Playing continuo  is 
> not about learning positions for chords but reading a bass and  adding the 
> right harmonies to it as a result of counterpoint and  correct voice 
> leading. If you think in "chords positions" like jazz  players do,  you 
> are going to create poor voice-leading and many  parallel harmonies. You 
> will have to be able to develop a very good  sense of harmony for each 
> time and style. Learn early Baroque harmony  and counterpoint to start 
> with (very much different than the  "standard" xviii century harmony we 
> learn in the conservatory) and  then apply this knowledge to find the 
> right connexions of chords  indicated by the bass (and cyphers when 
> present). That is the way to  go. With time it will come automatically. 
> Playing continuo on the  lute, archlute or theorbo is a very different 
> matter as playing  chords in baroque guitar style.
> I wish you lots of success in your new endeavor,
> Many greetings,
>
> Alfonso
>
> 



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[LUTE] Hexachords

2007-07-27 Thread Stewart McCoy

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> if i remember right,the german lute-pedagogues judenkunig, newsidler and 
> gerle wrote about the hexacord system in context to the lute.
> wolfgang

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[LUTE] Re: Hexachords

2007-07-27 Thread wolfgang wiehe
if i remember right,the german lute-pedagogues judenkunig, newsidler and gerle 
wrote about the hexacord system in context to the lute.
wolfgang
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> Dear Caroline,
> If you mean historical sources, you need
> Morley's 'Plaine and Easie Introduction to
> Practical Music,' or John Dowland's English
> translation of the 'Micrologous' of Andreas
> Ornithoparchus. The latter is (or was) available
> in facsimile, I think from Dover editions, and the
> former is available in a modern edition. Sorry I
> don't have more details to hand at the moment.
> Both are essential reading for Renaissance music
> theory.
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Denys
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Quoting Caroline Usher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
> > Supposing one wanted to learn the fundamentals of music as it was taught
> > in the 16th century, starting with the gamut and hexachords.  Are there 
> > any sources which approach this pedagogically?  There is an admirably 
> > thorough explanation of the theory at 
> > http://www.medieval.org/emfaq/harmony/hex.html, but how would one put it
> > into practice?
> > 
> > Much thanks for any suggestions,
> > Caroline
> > 
> > P.S.  Who's going to Vancouver next week?  I'm arriving at 10:58pm on 
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