[LUTE] Extravaganza (OT)
The center part of the US tends to be an early music desert compared to either of the coasts, but lately the Chicago area has begun to perk up a bit, with a few more local musicians putting on relatively high-quality performances. In addition, there are sometimes outreach events designed to engage young people and the general public. I participated in something last Sunday that, while not superb musically, was still just a lot of fun to do. Pictures here: http://earlymusichicago.org/photoalbum_MICEarlyMusicExtravaganzaApril2008 .htm Some of you who attend LSA Seminars will recognize a singer.at the center of the group in the second picture from the right in the top row. Daniel Heiman To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Reportage (was Re: Aarrrgghhhh!!!)
second On Apr 18, 2008, at 11:35 AM, Rob MacKillop wrote: Dear all, I think my original Subject line of 'Aarrrgg!!!' still holds! Rob On 18/04/2008, gary digman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: former Vice Presidents who claim to have invented the Internet and be the Fount of All Knowledge regarding global warming come immediately to mind. Isn't this an example of the type of misconsturing of facts that is being discussed? The fact is Gore never claimed to have invented the internet and he never claimed to be the font of all know;edge regarding global warming. Gary To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html --
[LUTE] Re: Reportage (was Re: Aarrrgghhhh!!!)
Dear all, I think my original Subject line of 'Aarrrgg!!!' still holds! Rob On 18/04/2008, gary digman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: former Vice Presidents who claim to have invented the Internet and be the Fount of All Knowledge regarding global warming come immediately to mind. Isn't this an example of the type of misconsturing of facts that is being discussed? The fact is Gore never claimed to have invented the internet and he never claimed to be the font of all know;edge regarding global warming. Gary To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html --
[LUTE] Re: Extravaganza (OT)
This is a fine tale and thank you for it, Daniel. However, the whole of the US's creamy center isn't necessarily that desert-like (or dessert-like). Consider Indiana U. and their early-music festival in Bloomington, IN. Here in Columbus, OH, we have a thriving, obscenely well-attended early-music concert series. Cleveland has a successful baroque orchestra and tends to host the LSA convention every other year. Etc. Best, Eugene At 02:10 AM 4/18/2008, Daniel F Heiman wrote: The center part of the US tends to be an early music desert compared to either of the coasts, but lately the Chicago area has begun to perk up a bit, with a few more local musicians putting on relatively high-quality performances. In addition, there are sometimes outreach events designed to engage young people and the general public. I participated in something last Sunday that, while not superb musically, was still just a lot of fun to do. Pictures here: http://earlymusichicago.org/photoalbum_MICEarlyMusicExtravaganzaApril2008 .htm Some of you who attend LSA Seminars will recognize a singer.at the center of the group in the second picture from the right in the top row. Daniel Heiman To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Reportage (was Re: Aarrrgghhhh!!!)
Aye! At 05:54 AM 4/18/2008, Doc Rossi wrote: second On Apr 18, 2008, at 11:35 AM, Rob MacKillop wrote: Dear all, I think my original Subject line of 'Aarrrgg!!!' still holds! Rob On 18/04/2008, gary digman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: former Vice Presidents who claim to have invented the Internet and be the Fount of All Knowledge regarding global warming come immediately to mind. Isn't this an example of the type of misconsturing of facts that is being discussed? The fact is Gore never claimed to have invented the internet and he never claimed to be the font of all know;edge regarding global warming. Gary To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html --
[LUTE] Re: Extravaganza (OT)
I'd second Eugene's caveat about blanket statements about early music performance in the barren plains. This weekend in the St Louis area two different ensembles are presenting programs--one an all-French concert with dancers and costumes and the other a concert of 17th-c music for violins, violone, and theorbo by Cazzati, Corradini, Frescobaldi and others. Beginning May 3, I have a different concert to play every weekend for 3 weeks with 3 different ensembles. In July, Early Music St. Louis runs an early music camp for high school string players at which the kids all get to play on gut-strung period instruments with proper bows. We have 5 early music ensembles in the area who perform pretty regularly, hire professional players, and present pretty high-level concerts. The newest organization, St. Louis Baroque, is a group I helped found and direct and the plan is to grow it into a good-sized baroque orchestra--the city now includes at least a half-dozen baroque violinists (one of whom is a great viola d'amore player), 3 baroque cellists (including one fine gambist), 2 baroque bassoonists/dulcian players, a number of fine harpsichordists, one theorbo/luter and lots of good singers, I think this has some serious potential. We don't have the audience yet, but it's out there and we're working to get them in. It's not Vancouver or Boston or Berkeley--but it's good music by good performers on period instruments. For a sample of some of what we do here, go to http://arsantiguapresents.com/ to hear Jerry Fuller's Ars Antiqua Chicago podcast. Although they are not ascribed, the podcasts for January, February April were all recorded in live concerts here in STL. I helped with sound and recording for the Graupner Telemann recordings and I played on the Shakespear Bande recording. Some of the players on the Graupner Telemann were imported (oboist from Boston, flute from Mexico) but the bulk of the band was local players, as it is for the Shakespear Bande. And now I have to go practice for the concert I'm playing Sunday! All the best. jeff - Original Message - From: Eugene C. Braig IV [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Daniel F Heiman [EMAIL PROTECTED]; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 7:31 AM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Extravaganza (OT) This is a fine tale and thank you for it, Daniel. However, the whole of the US's creamy center isn't necessarily that desert-like (or dessert-like). Consider Indiana U. and their early-music festival in Bloomington, IN. Here in Columbus, OH, we have a thriving, obscenely well-attended early-music concert series. Cleveland has a successful baroque orchestra and tends to host the LSA convention every other year. Etc. Best, Eugene At 02:10 AM 4/18/2008, Daniel F Heiman wrote: The center part of the US tends to be an early music desert compared to either of the coasts, but lately the Chicago area has begun to perk up a bit, with a few more local musicians putting on relatively high-quality performances. In addition, there are sometimes outreach events designed to engage young people and the general public. I participated in something last Sunday that, while not superb musically, was still just a lot of fun to do. Pictures here: http://earlymusichicago.org/photoalbum_MICEarlyMusicExtravaganzaApril2008 .htm Some of you who attend LSA Seminars will recognize a singer.at the center of the group in the second picture from the right in the top row. Daniel Heiman To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Extravaganza (OT)
Madison has an excellent early music festival that includes a number of concerts by major early music groups plus a week of classes taught by the members of the performing groups. I attended a couple of years ago (it drew over 100 students) and enjoyed it immensely. I'd recommend it to anyone, especially if you are interested in ensemble work or play other instruments as well as lute (it tends to be light on stuff for solo lute, but I'm also an early brass musician). Guy -Original Message- From: Eugene C. Braig IV [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 5:31 AM To: Daniel F Heiman; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: Extravaganza (OT) This is a fine tale and thank you for it, Daniel. However, the whole of the US's creamy center isn't necessarily that desert-like (or dessert-like). Consider Indiana U. and their early-music festival in Bloomington, IN. Here in Columbus, OH, we have a thriving, obscenely well-attended early-music concert series. Cleveland has a successful baroque orchestra and tends to host the LSA convention every other year. Etc. Best, Eugene At 02:10 AM 4/18/2008, Daniel F Heiman wrote: The center part of the US tends to be an early music desert compared to either of the coasts, but lately the Chicago area has begun to perk up a bit, with a few more local musicians putting on relatively high-quality performances. In addition, there are sometimes outreach events designed to engage young people and the general public. I participated in something last Sunday that, while not superb musically, was still just a lot of fun to do. Pictures here: http://earlymusichicago.org/photoalbum_MICEarlyMusicExtravaganzaApril2008 .htm Some of you who attend LSA Seminars will recognize a singer.at the center of the group in the second picture from the right in the top row. Daniel Heiman To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Mille Ducas
Stephen It is a quabtity of money as shown here, one thousand ducats. http://books.google.fr/books?id=dwkMYAAJpg=PA144dq=mille+ducas but perhaps you are not asking this but for the musical origin. ducat |=CB=88d=C9'k=C9't| noun 1 a gold coin formerly current in most European countries. a Euro =A2 ( ducats) informal money : their production of Hamlet has kept the ducats pouring in. 2 informal a ticket, esp. an admission ticket. ORIGIN from Italian ducato, originally referring to a silver coin minted by the Duke of Apulia in 1190: from medieval Latin ducatus (see duchy ). Sense 2 dates from the late 19th cent. Anthony Le 18 avr. 08 =C3! 18:15, Stephen Kenyon a =C3=A9crit : Does anybody know the meaning, and perhaps background, of the title of the galliard - which I know from an ensemble (crumhorn?) version - Mille ducas. And is there anywhere a lute version of it? - it seems to have travelled through various versions. Thanks all, Stephen K To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html --
[LUTE] Re: Mille Ducas
In fact there is a round, mille ducas dans vostre bourse, a thousand ducats in your purse. Susato, Tielman (c.1500-c.1561): Dances from Danserye (1551),Pavane, Gaillarde, et Ronde Mille ducas or Tielman SUSATO (1500-1564) La Bataille; Suite deDanses Mille Ducas; Basses Dances One of Phalese's main rivals was Tielman Susato. Susato was born in Cologne, but from 1529 worked in Antwerp as a copyist, cathedral musician and town instrumentalist. He started music publishing in 1543 and his last publication dates from 1561. He was the most important printer in the Netherlands, printing music by Janequin, Josquin, Lassus, Rore, Willaert and Clemens non Papa. I did not find a lute version, but here you can find the music; http://sca.uwaterloo.ca/Hendricks/ I don't know if that is any help. Anthony Le 18 avr. 08 =E0 18:15, Stephen Kenyon a ecrit : Does anybody know the meaning, and perhaps background, of the title of the galliard - which I know from an ensemble (crumhorn?) version - Mille ducas. And is there anywhere a lute version of it? - it seems to have travelled through various versions. Thanks all, Stephen K To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html --
[LUTE] Re: Reportage (was Re: Aarrrgghhhh!!!)
On Apr 17, 2008, at 8:38 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED], apparently in all seriousness, wrote: And I defy you to come up with one honest, factual example of Rush Limbaugh actually lying versus him merely presenting an informed opinion that differs from yours. For outright falsehoods, try: http://mediamatters.org/items/200502180006 http://members.aol.com/Falconnn/rushlie.html http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/1995/05/fair.html http://barkingdingo.blogspot.com/2005/08/more-rush-limbaugh-lies.html -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: ATTAINGNANT Heartz
All of Dan's musicological work is of the very highest quality, including transcriptions concordances. In addition to being an accomplished musician on piano, he was playing the renaissance lute in the 60s based on an actual museum copy. The books often contain information--including delightful drawings--about the actual dances, the identity of some of the initialed attributions, and so on. dt Jean-Marie Poirier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, Anthony, as I earlier wrote on the FRench lute list, the book does contain both the tablature, its transcription and abundant analysis. A must have, in spite of minor criticisms about the editorial policy of Mr Heartz (no politics involved here ;-). Best, Jean-Marie === 17-04-2008 16:36:57 == Does any body know whether Daniel Heartz' Preludes, chansons and dances for lute, published by Pierre ATTAINGNANT contains both the tablature and analysis of this music, or specifically the analyses. Anthony To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://poirierjm.free.fr 17-04-2008 --
[LUTE] Re: Reportage (was Re: Aarrrgghhhh!!!)
Sorry guys, one thing I forgot to mention: Even the mildest criticism of the right-wing blogosphere generally brings on a fussilade of paranoic attacks on the critic. Cheers, Jim From: howard posner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/04/18 Fri PM 12:17:27 CDT To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Net lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: Reportage (was Re: Aarrrgg!!!) On Apr 17, 2008, at 8:38 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED], apparently in all seriousness, wrote: And I defy you to come up with one honest, factual example of Rush Limbaugh actually lying versus him merely presenting an informed opinion that differs from yours. For outright falsehoods, try: http://mediamatters.org/items/200502180006 http://members.aol.com/Falconnn/rushlie.html http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/1995/05/fair.html http://barkingdingo.blogspot.com/2005/08/more-rush-limbaugh-lies.html -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: St Matthew Passion
My favorites are Mauersberger brothers' from the 60's and the Peter Schreier's one from ca. 10 years ago. You might want to get the original version with archlute instead of gamba with Müller-Brühl on Naxos. RT From: David Rastall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear Wisdom, I need to get a good recording of the Matthew Passion. Can any of you suggest one? I have a recording by Harnancourt on vinyl dating from 1970, and it's a marvellous performance, but I think it's time to get an up-to-date recording on CD. Can anyone suggest a good recording? David R [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: lute in a mirror
It is like Rick Wakeman songs... (Yes keyboards...) Mean the second part. Funny... you shoud try a career as a Pop music artist ? no ? I like very much the normal part... Val. - Original Message - From: wolfgang wiehe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 8:44 PM Subject: [LUTE] lute in a mirror hello all, i just made an interesting observation. i recorded a preambel and due to an error of my own audacity played it backwards, but hear yourself: http://www.esnips.com/doc/f786ac35-3a28-42fc-a6ee-7df87ca1f2f1/hn-preamb el-lebmaerp-nh what do you think? w. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Extravaganza (OT)
Interesting, encouraging, and better than a food fight but no Lutes? - Original Message - From: Daniel F Heiman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 2:10 AM Subject: [LUTE] Extravaganza (OT) The center part of the US tends to be an early music desert compared to either of the coasts, but lately the Chicago area has begun to perk up a bit, with a few more local musicians putting on relatively high-quality performances. In addition, there are sometimes outreach events designed to engage young people and the general public. I participated in something last Sunday that, while not superb musically, was still just a lot of fun to do. Pictures here: http://earlymusichicago.org/photoalbum_MICEarlyMusicExtravaganzaApril2008 .htm Some of you who attend LSA Seminars will recognize a singer.at the center of the group in the second picture from the right in the top row. Daniel Heiman To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.2/1386 - Release Date: 4/18/2008 5:24 PM
[LUTE] Re: Mille Ducas
Peter Sorry for giving the link, then. It was the only one I found for the music, and I assumed that it would be possible to transcribe for lute. I wasn't sure there was a lute part in the original, although there are recordings in which lutes appear, this is not always the case. Susato, Tielman (c.1500-c.1561): Dances from Danserye (1551),Pavane, Gaillarde, et Ronde Mille ducas Frederic de Roos, alto crumhorn; Joelle Lanscotte and Patrick Denecker, tenor crumhorns; Koen Dieltiens, bass crumhorn from Guide des Instruments de la Renaissance: Ricercar RIC 95001b http://www.medieval.org/emfaq/cds/euf1163.htm Performers: Capella Sancti Michaelis/Currende Consort [Katelijne van Laethem (soprano), Jan Caals (alto), Jan van Elsacker (tenor), Job Boswinkel (bass), Jean Tubery (cornett), Simen van Mechelen (alto sackbut), Jean-Jacques Herbin (alto sackbut), Paul Smit (tenor sackbutt), Franck Poitrineau (bass sackbut), Piet Stryckers (tenor viol, great bass viol), Gail Ann Schroeder (bass viol), Piet van Steenbergen (bass viol), Adelheid Glatt (bass viol), Peter van Heyghen (soprano, alto and bass recorder), Marcel Ketels (sopranino and tenor recorder), Mirella Ruigrok (alto and tenor recorder), Jan Devliegher (bass recorder), Rene van Laken (alto and tenor shawn, tenor dulcian), Erik van Nevel (shawn, alto shawn, alto dulcian), Philippe Malfeyt (luth, cistre), Herman Stinders (harpsichord), Bart Quartier (tabor, tambourine)] - directed by Erik van Nevel I found no lute tablature of the pieces, although perhaps you know they do exist Regards Anthony Le 18 avr. 08 =E0 21:07, Peter Martin a ecrit : Hendricks's page, which I wasn't aware of before, is a wide-ranging collection of renaissance vocal and instrumental music. Excellent. BUT such a shame that he has ruthlessly stripped out any parts for lute. Lachrimae, Dowland songs, Rosseter, Caroso ... all lute-less. And no acknowledgement that anything is missing. Almost a sort of lute genocide. I find this sort of thing far more damaging to the lute cause than a couple of inaccurate remarks by a well-intentioned non-specialist reporter. P On 18/04/2008, Anthony Hind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In fact there is a round, mille ducas dans vostre bourse, a thousand ducats in your purse. Susato, Tielman (c.1500-c.1561): Dances from Danserye (1551),Pavane, Gaillarde, et Ronde Mille ducas or Tielman SUSATO (1500-1564) La Bataille; Suite deDanses Mille Ducas; Basses Dances One of Phalese's main rivals was Tielman Susato. Susato was born in Cologne, but from 1529 worked in Antwerp as a copyist, cathedral musician and town instrumentalist. He started music publishing in 1543 and his last publication dates from 1561. He was the most important printer in the Netherlands, printing music by Janequin, Josquin, Lassus, Rore, Willaert and Clemens non Papa. I did not find a lute version, but here you can find the music; http://sca.uwaterloo.ca/Hendricks/ I don't know if that is any help. Anthony Le 18 avr. 08 =E0 18:15, Stephen Kenyon a ecrit : Does anybody know the meaning, and perhaps background, of the title of the galliard - which I know from an ensemble (crumhorn?) version - Mille ducas. And is there anywhere a lute version of it? - it seems to have travelled through various versions. Thanks all, Stephen K To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- -- Peter Martin Belle Serre La Caulie 81100 Castres France tel: 0033 5 63 35 68 46 e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.silvius.co.uk http://absolute81.blogspot.com/ www.myspace.com/sambuca999 www.myspace.com/chuckerbutty -- --
[LUTE] Re: Mille Ducas
Le 19 avr. 08 =E0 00:50, LGS-Europe a ecrit : Susato was born in Cologne I read he was born is Soest (The Netherlands), hence his name. David you may well be correct, but I saw this. JSTOR: New Documents on the Life of Tielman Susato, Sixteenth ... http://www.jstor.org/pss/3687153 New evidence confirms that Tielman Susato was born in Cologne or its environs, in about 1515, as the son of another Tielman. Three documents can be cited to ... and JSTOR: The Cantus-Firmus Chansons of Tylman Susato http://www.jstor.org/pss/830473 - [ Traduire cette page ] Finally, we shall attempt to determine the extent of Gervaise's stylistic debt to Susato. Tylman Susato,2 who was probably born in Cologne, settled in Ant- ... There are people born in England called French, it is no guarantee of their origin, and the father who could have been born in Soest, might have moved to Cologne. However, I don't know. These articles look serious, but I have no way of accessing them. Do check what they have to say, and let us know. Anthony David David van Ooijen [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.davidvanooijen.nl To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html --
