[LUTE-BUILDER] Re: lute
Brod, I think the most difficult part is getting started, my eight course has been in progress for three years (no work on it for the last two due to moving and a minor medical problem, the removal of a leg). I intend to get back to it shortly. I have the ribs (bowl staves) made to thickness - I'd suggest that the thickness planer might be a bit rough for the finishing cut, but the experienced luthiers on the list will probably answer that. There are several books/CDs on the topic - David van Edwards and the late (it is in my bookshelf, but the name forgotten and I can't get to the bookshelf as I type as I've taken my prosthetic leg off). Both seem to advocate an oversize bandsaw cut of the ribs, then a planing to fit. Van Edwards gives you templates in his package, but you should be able to draw them out if you have a talent for 3D fitting. The mold, which can be skeletal or solid, is your guide (I do have that made). It is not difficult, but it is exacting as it will shape the body. For my thicknesses I resawed on the bandsaw, then I tried both the "Luthier's Friend" sanding device and the Wagner Saf-T-Planer - both on the drill press. The final thickness probably should be with a cabinet scraper - but the more experienced will comment on that, I only write this so as to get their input when I restart my project. The Luthier's friend is a bit expensive for what it is, but it does thickness exactly although leaving a surface that has to be "skinned". The Wagner involves making a jig, but leaves a nice surface. This for what it is worth, ask me again in a year. Best, Jon - Original Message - From: "Brod Mac" To: Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 1:37 AM Subject: [LUTE-BUILDER] lute hello, everyone what would be the most difficult part of building a six course lute. I have an extensive wood shop. such as thickness planer, table saw, jointer, bandsaw, hand planner and alot of other hand/power tools. also, does one cut the bowl staves with a bandsaw? __ How fun is this? [1]IMing with Windows Live Messenger just got better. -- References 1. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/messenger.aspx To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE-BUILDER] lute
hello, everyone what would be the most difficult part of building a six course lute. I have an extensive wood shop. such as thickness planer, table saw, jointer, bandsaw, hand planner and alot of other hand/power tools. also, does one cut the bowl staves with a bandsaw? __ How fun is this? [1]IMing with Windows Live Messenger just got better. -- References 1. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/messenger.aspx To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Bach & Telemann
Strange. I had a similar problem when I went fire walking in my brogues. Completely trashed them and my 'best' chinos caught fire. Bare feet and shorts next time for me!! Long dark nights in West Yorkshire, makes you do the weirdest of things. :-) -Original Message- From: Charles Browne [mailto:char...@brownecowie.fsnet.co.uk] Sent: 25 January 2009 20:45 To: Ron Fletcher Cc: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: Bach & Telemann Ron Fletcher wrote: > On Jan 24, 2009, at 4:42 PM, David Tayler wrote: > > >> ...and the >> leather shoes that some insist on wearing, sigh. >> > > Why do so many people wear trainers? - Training for what? > > I do not own any trainers, - probably because I rarely wear jeans. Trainers > go with nothing else, -unless you live in sportswear all day! > > I have no hang-ups about wearing leather shoes. They give a less slovenly > appearance. If there were fewer omnivores, there would no doubt be less > leather to go round. But until that day...Bach in Brogues! (Telemann in > trainers?) > > Best Wishes > > Ron (UK) > > > > > > To get on or off this list see list information at > http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > > I thought that too, until I washed our paths with concentrated hypochlorite solution to kill the moss. The effect on my highly polished leather brogues was disastrous and my trousers were ruined! It's jeans and wellingtons from now on! Charles: Somewhere in the Valley of the Three Waters
[LUTE] Re: Bach & Telemann
Ron Fletcher wrote: On Jan 24, 2009, at 4:42 PM, David Tayler wrote: ...and the leather shoes that some insist on wearing, sigh. Why do so many people wear trainers? - Training for what? I do not own any trainers, - probably because I rarely wear jeans. Trainers go with nothing else, -unless you live in sportswear all day! I have no hang-ups about wearing leather shoes. They give a less slovenly appearance. If there were fewer omnivores, there would no doubt be less leather to go round. But until that day...Bach in Brogues! (Telemann in trainers?) Best Wishes Ron (UK) To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html I thought that too, until I washed our paths with concentrated hypochlorite solution to kill the moss. The effect on my highly polished leather brogues was disastrous and my trousers were ruined! It's jeans and wellingtons from now on! Charles: Somewhere in the Valley of the Three Waters
[LUTE] lute
can anyone enlighten me on what is the most difficult part of making a lute? __ How fun is this? [1]IMing with Windows Live Messenger just got better. -- References 1. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/messenger.aspx To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: my first video
Very nice, David! It is a high quality video, and it was an excellent presentation. Congratulations! ed At 06:10 PM 1/25/2009 +0100, David van Ooijen wrote: >Sort of anyway. >This morning's live radio was on internet as well: > >http://wm1.avro.jet-stream.nl/avro/web/klassiek/090125_spiegelzaal.wmv Edward Martin 2817 East 2nd Street Duluth, Minnesota 55812 e-mail: e...@gamutstrings.com voice: (218) 728-1202 To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Bach & Telemann
"...and the leather shoes that some insist on wearing, sigh." >Incredible. You have a problem with people who "insist on wearing >leather shoes." That's such a California notion! Well it's tough being a lute player in California. I trust that for David's gig they at least stayed on the feet- live performances and restless shoe leather are suddenly becoming a real phenomenon, ripe vegetables no longer in vogue apparently. I once had an event with velcro sandal fasteners mid performance- one of my devoted auditors pulled one off his foot; sounded exactly like the program being ripped angrily in half. When it happened again from the other foot I really had to wonder what was going on. Then a heavy glass mounted picture crashed to the floor in the second half of the concert. Life is still a bit wild out here in the West. DW -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: my first video
Congratulations and thanks! Very enjoyable and I like the singers. Try with Democracy Donatella - Original Message - From: "David van Ooijen" To: "Lute List" Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 6:10 PM Subject: [LUTE] my first video Sort of anyway. This morning's live radio was on internet as well: http://wm1.avro.jet-stream.nl/avro/web/klassiek/090125_spiegelzaal.wmv In the first 15 minutes of chat show you can hear (and see!) me accompany Music for a While (in F-minor), a Corpario duet and the Dialogue on a Kiss. Btw: does somebody know how I can download this to my PC? David - had a Bach cantata in E-major (recits C-sharp minor!) in the afternoon; quite a trip: from 4 flats to four sharps! -- *** David van Ooijen davidvanooi...@gmail.com www.davidvanooijen.nl *** To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: my first video
NetTransport can do it easily, David. I downloaded it to my hard disk. If you can't make it just tell me, I'll burn it and send it over to you if you want. === 25-01-2009 18:10:46 === >This morning's live radio was on internet as well: > >http://wm1.avro.jet-stream.nl/avro/web/klassiek/090125_spiegelzaal.wmv > >In the first 15 minutes of chat show you can hear (and see!) me >accompany Music for a While (in F-minor), a Corpario duet and the >Dialogue on a Kiss. > >Btw: does somebody know how I can download this to my PC? NetTransport can do it easily, David. I downloaded it to my hard disk. If you can't make it just tell me, I'll burn it and send it over to you if you want. > >David - had a Bach cantata in E-major (recits C-sharp minor!) in the >afternoon; quite a trip: from 4 flats to four sharps! > Been there before... I know how it feels ! It makes the final fermata look like promised land, doesn't it ? ;-))) Best wishes, Jean-Marie >-- >*** >David van Ooijen >davidvanooi...@gmail.com >www.davidvanooijen.nl jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr http://poirierjm.free.fr 25-01-2009 To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] my first video
Sort of anyway. This morning's live radio was on internet as well: http://wm1.avro.jet-stream.nl/avro/web/klassiek/090125_spiegelzaal.wmv In the first 15 minutes of chat show you can hear (and see!) me accompany Music for a While (in F-minor), a Corpario duet and the Dialogue on a Kiss. Btw: does somebody know how I can download this to my PC? David - had a Bach cantata in E-major (recits C-sharp minor!) in the afternoon; quite a trip: from 4 flats to four sharps! -- *** David van Ooijen davidvanooi...@gmail.com www.davidvanooijen.nl *** To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Bach & Telemann
On Jan 24, 2009, at 4:42 PM, David Tayler wrote: > ...and the > leather shoes that some insist on wearing, sigh. Why do so many people wear trainers? - Training for what? I do not own any trainers, - probably because I rarely wear jeans. Trainers go with nothing else, -unless you live in sportswear all day! I have no hang-ups about wearing leather shoes. They give a less slovenly appearance. If there were fewer omnivores, there would no doubt be less leather to go round. But until that day...Bach in Brogues! (Telemann in trainers?) Best Wishes Ron (UK) To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: 'notable composers (lute, vihuela and guitar)'
I'm a guitarist (blues rock). Lute being very much my second instrument. Neil -Original Message- From: Christopher Stetson [mailto:cstet...@email.smith.edu] Sent: 19 January 2009 14:33 To: Lute List ((E-mail)) Subject: [LUTE] Re: 'notable composers (lute, vihuela and guitar)' Hi, all, In answer to Edward's question, I started on guitar (Delta blues, as a matter of fact), moved to lute, then back to guitar, with mandolin thrown in. Right now I play mainly guitar, several styles, but I'm currently mostly interested in turn of the century (19th to 20th) American guitar and early Hawaiian guitar. My lute interest right now is largely vicarious; my instrument needs some work. I also play shamisen, sanxian, and gu qin (for which I envy your Singapore location!) for the pluckies, and some Asian flutes. Chris. >>> "Edward C. Yong" 1/19/2009 3:05 AM >>> On 19 Jan 2009, at 6:33 AM, howard posner wrote: > > On Jan 18, 2009, at 1:11 PM, Mayes, Joseph wrote: > >>I don't know why the world of classical guitar is of such >> interest to >>this list > > Perhaps because 90% of us are or have been classical guitarists? I'd be really interested to know how many on the lute list are also guitarists or have been at some time. Not disputing Mr Posner's statistic, but merely curious. I started off on lute, without ever having touched guitar before, and even now if I ever have to twiddle on a guitar, I have to mentally play the 'ok, everything is a minor third lower) game. Anyone else *not* a guitar player? Edward in Singapore To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: LUTE CDs Ed Martin's Allemande/Serdoura's Baricades
Dear All I see that Ed's Conradi + Kellner CD (I mentioned in this link I sent you) can now be heard and purchased from Magnatune. http://tinyurl.com/al6g7s http://magnatune.com/artists/albums/martin-allemande/ Samples of Miguel's Baricades CD can be heard here, http://tinyurl.com/bnfn5b and here http://tinyurl.com/8zlqup This now seems to be available from the following outlets: US www.amazon.com www.arkivmusic.com www.kochdistribution.com UK www.amazon.uk www.europadisc.co.uk www.play.com www.crotchet.co.uk France www.fnac.com www.abeillemusique.fr www.amazon.fr www.alapage.com Italy www.ibs.it Spain www.elcorteingles.es www.elkar.com www.todoclasico.cl Germany www.amazon.de www.jpc.de Switzerland www.exlibris.ch www.1advd.ch Belgium/Holland www.kruidvatentertainmentshop.nl Poland www.merlin.pl Portugal www.jmp.pt Japan www.towerrecords.co.jp Regards Anthony Le 23 janv. 09 à 12:53, Anthony Hind a écrit : I should have used TinyUrl, but you can copy the link into your browser. AH Le 23 janv. 09 à 12:47, Anthony Hind a écrit : Dear All Miguel Serdoura sent me a link where samples of his Baroque CD can be heard in reasonable quality. http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/hnum/7946221? rk=home&rsk=hitlist This JPC.de site also seem to have an unusually wide selection of other lute recordings with sound samples. For example there seem to be four CDs taken from the Bis recording in 1994 of Lindberg's Dowland: The original Bis recording at EUR 39,99 http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/hnum/7384910? rk=home&rsk=hitlist Brilliant reeidition at EUR 12,99 http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/hnum/7924514? rk=home&rsk=hitlist as well as the SACD only Bis SACD at EUR 19,99 http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/hnum/8584187? rk=home&rsk=hitlist and then the extracts from the Bis recording at EUR 19,99 http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/hnum/7924514? rk=home&rsk=hitlist I wonder whether the cheap Brilliant version is up to the original Bis standard. I suppose they will have cut the cost, by reducing notes, etc. They seem to have a very wide catalogue of lute recordings not so often seen on other sites, and often with sound samples. However, entering 'lute' in the search field does give more guitar than lute recordings http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/home/hitlist Anthony Le 2 janv. 09 à 20:24, Anthony Hind a écrit : Dear All I have just been informed that Miguel's lute CD is already out of stock. It should be possible to preorder here: http://www.amazon.com/Baricades-Misterieuses-Miguel-Barockluta- Serdoura/dp/B001LJL6ES/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1? ie=UTF8&s=music&qid30922859&sr=8-1 Or later : http://www.arkivmusic.com His method can still be ordered, here: https://www.lacg.net/catalog/product_info.php? products_id130&osCsid 55b4c1b07d1a3dcd68964448a59d31 Anthony -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html --
