[LUTE] So, what you consider a must have publication?
The title say it all, as lute players, which publications you see as must have? and of course, way? To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: So, what you consider a must have publication?
This depends entirely on what kind of music you like. Now days there is quite a lot of tab available on the net so which publication takes on a new meaning and gets into the aesthetics of the publication as well as the quality of the contents. On Oct 18, 2009, at 4:30 PM, Omer Katzir wrote: The title say it all, as lute players, which publications you see as must have? and of course, way? Ed Durbrow Saitama, Japan [1]edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp [2]http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/ -- References 1. mailto:edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp 2. http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: So, what you consider a must have publication?
Pickering and LoST for english music. dt At 05:40 AM 10/18/2009, you wrote: This depends entirely on what kind of music you like. Now days there is quite a lot of tab available on the net so which publication takes on a new meaning and gets into the aesthetics of the publication as well as the quality of the contents. On Oct 18, 2009, at 4:30 PM, Omer Katzir wrote: The title say it all, as lute players, which publications you see as must have? and of course, way? Ed Durbrow Saitama, Japan [1]edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp [2]http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/ -- References 1. mailto:edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp 2. http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: So, what you consider a must have publication?
This depends entirely on what kind of music you like. ..and when in the lute player's life the question is asked. Right now I'm in the worst throes of a Weiss relapse that I've ever experienced. The London and Dresden Mss. (unpublications, by definition) are the most must haves. If my temperature returns to normal then my homemade cut paste tab only performing versions of Ness' Francesco, CNRS' da Rippe, Poulton's Dowland and of course the LoST. Also Fuenllana (but I hate the edition I'm stuck with, J.P.Paladin, and Julien Belin. Dan -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: So, what you consider a must have publication?
Oh yes, you asked why. Maybe just because. But specifically, it's the stuff I like the most can mostly play; and since I went to the trouble of putting some of these editions into performing/playing versions they are easy to work with. If you are asking without quite saying What lute music should be universally foundational to all serious lute players? you should ask that. It will undoubtedly include most of what any of us post here, but certain things that are must haves for me are certainly not essential to your unasked question. Nobody needs Julien Belin but I like his little book very much. Dan This depends entirely on what kind of music you like. ..and when in the lute player's life the question is asked. Right now I'm in the worst throes of a Weiss relapse that I've ever experienced. The London and Dresden Mss. (unpublications, by definition) are the most must haves. If my temperature returns to normal then my homemade cut paste tab only performing versions of Ness' Francesco, CNRS' da Rippe, Poulton's Dowland and of course the LoST. Also Fuenllana (but I hate the edition I'm stuck with, J.P.Paladin, and Julien Belin. Dan -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- Rachel Winheld 820 Colusa Avenue Berkeley, CA 94707 rwinh...@comcast.net Tel 510.526.0242 Cell 510.915.4276
[LUTE] Re: So, what you consider a must have publication?
Also Fuenllana (but I hate the edition I'm stuck with Kindly elaborate Daniel. G. - Original Message - From: Daniel Winheld dwinh...@comcast.net To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 7:33 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: So, what you consider a must have publication? This depends entirely on what kind of music you like. ..and when in the lute player's life the question is asked. Right now I'm in the worst throes of a Weiss relapse that I've ever experienced. The London and Dresden Mss. (unpublications, by definition) are the most must haves. If my temperature returns to normal then my homemade cut paste tab only performing versions of Ness' Francesco, CNRS' da Rippe, Poulton's Dowland and of course the LoST. Also Fuenllana (but I hate the edition I'm stuck with, J.P.Paladin, and Julien Belin. Dan To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: So, what you consider a must have publication?
Siena or Capirola? Casteliano's Diversi Autori or a Francesco facsimile? Paladino or Il Fronimo? An earlier Phalese or an Adriaenssen? The Dowland, de Rippe or Francesco anthologies? Marsh or Pickering? The big Besard or the Varietie? LoST or the Holmes books? Mary Anne or Ginger? There's lot's to be learned from the non-first choices: eg. Wickhambrook. Short, sweet, many top shelf John Johnson pieces though hardly a desert island choice for length or number of composers represented (but certainly a bargain at the UK L.S.). My advice: for every big name, take a chance on an obscure one. It's like How do you stop eating a bag of corn chips?. Just finish the whole bag and the problem is solved. You don't put a lot of effort into which one to start with, do you? Believe me, begin anywhere and in 30 years you'll chuckle over this question, too. Sean On Oct 18, 2009, at 10:33 AM, Daniel Winheld wrote: This depends entirely on what kind of music you like. ..and when in the lute player's life the question is asked. Right now I'm in the worst throes of a Weiss relapse that I've ever experienced. The London and Dresden Mss. (unpublications, by definition) are the most must haves. If my temperature returns to normal then my homemade cut paste tab only performing versions of Ness' Francesco, CNRS' da Rippe, Poulton's Dowland and of course the LoST. Also Fuenllana (but I hate the edition I'm stuck with, J.P.Paladin, and Julien Belin. Dan -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: So, what you consider a must have publication?
Also Fuenllana (but I hate the edition I'm stuck with Kindly elaborate Daniel. It is an extract from the original that leaves out most of the intabulations, leaving many of the fantasias based on them feeling out of place rootless; like not having M. Neusidler's setting of Anchor Che Col Partire right before his fantasia based on it. Many of Paladino's best fantasias also follow his settings of the vocal works they are based on- unthinkable to chop them out arbitrarily. This extract has been rendered upside down into the French tab persuasion (a picky complaint, but when readable I prefer the flavour of the originals) I believe there was once a facsimile for sale, but it was no longer available last time I checked. Haven't looked in while, sheer laziness. Any kick in the butt towards an available complete edition would actually be appreciated, thanks. Dan -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: So, what you consider a must have publication?
On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 8:34 PM, Daniel Winheld dwinh...@comcast.net wrote: Also Fuenllana (but I hate the edition I'm stuck with available complete edition would actually be appreciated, thanks. Dan Minkoff. Beautiful. Expensive. CD-Rom with _all_ vihuela publications in jpg. Cheap and good enough. David -- *** David van Ooijen davidvanooi...@gmail.com www.davidvanooijen.nl *** To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: So, what you consider a must have publication?
Oddly enough, I always seem to see those publications that I don't currently own as must have. All kidding aside, for beginners (like myself), I'd recommend Diana Poulton's 'A Tutor for the Renaissance Lute'. It contains information about the lute, various types of tablature, and lots of graded musical examples. - Original Message - From: Omer Katzir kome...@gmail.com To: LuteNet list lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 4:30 AM Subject: [LUTE] So, what you consider a must have publication? The title say it all, as lute players, which publications you see as must have? and of course, way? To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: So, what you consider a must have publication?
For playing with a second person (a lutenist would be nice) or in ensembles, I wouldn't want to be without Orlandus Lassus, songs without text, opus 13-24 (two parts); Tielman Susato, Dances from 1551 (mostly 4 parts); Petrucci's Harmonice Musices Odhecaton (mostly three or four parts - fun to read in the origianal notation, but available in modern notation); and - really wonderful - The Glogauer Liederbuch (mostly three parts - I only currently have a xerox copy in modern notation thanks to the generosity of a friend, but it can be obtained from a library, I believe). I mention these (there are certainly many others) because as satisfying as learning and playing the solo lute literature is, playing part music with others provides its own unique rewards. I love both! I found enthusiastic players by attending a meeting of our local recorder society. Ned -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: So, what you consider a must have publication?
For me without question, the Barbe Ms. is a wonderfully rich source of music, and for one finding his own way, an indispensible teacher. Damian To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: So, what you consider a must have publication?
I'll second that on the Barbe Manuscript for the baroque lute, and for the Renaissance lute I am having a wonderful time working my way through the Hortus Musicalis Novus of Elias Mertel. - Original Message - From: damian dlugolecki [1]dam...@damianstrings.com To: [2]l...@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 9:05 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: So, what you consider a must have publication? For me without question, the Barbe Ms. is a wonderfully rich source of music, and for one finding his own way, an indispensible teacher. Damian To get on or off this list see list information at [3]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:dam...@damianstrings.com 2. mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu 3. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: So, what you consider a must have publication?
Damian, Stephen- Now you've got my attention- can you please tell me a little about the Barbe Ms, or where I can go to find out about it, and maybe download or buy a copy? Thanks, Dan I'll second that on the Barbe Manuscript for the baroque lute, and for the Renaissance lute I am having a wonderful time working my way through the Hortus Musicalis Novus of Elias Mertel. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: So, what you consider a must have publication?
The Barbe Ms. is a facsimile edition by Minkoff, of ms. Bibliotheque nationale, Paris ca, 1690 Rés/ Vmb.ms7 The ms. progresses by key through many of the major works of all of the different luthiste/composers. Barres and fingerings are notated in red ink as in the original. The fingerings are the best, much better than the fingerings in Saizenay which I don't like at all. The composite is an actual picture of the style of playing. If you take the time and exercise patience to examine and follow through these details, your efforts will be richly rewarded. Barbe is a virtual treasure chest of 17th century musical style for the lute. Damian Please visit my web site at www.damianstrings.com - Original Message - From: Daniel Winheld dwinh...@comcast.net To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 9:00 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: So, what you consider a must have publication? Damian, Stephen- Now you've got my attention- can you please tell me a little about the Barbe Ms, or where I can go to find out about it, and maybe download or buy a copy? Thanks, Dan I'll second that on the Barbe Manuscript for the baroque lute, and for the Renaissance lute I am having a wonderful time working my way through the Hortus Musicalis Novus of Elias Mertel. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
