[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: B-Bc FA VI 10

2010-03-04 Thread David van Ooijen
A very, vey big thank you to all people involved in making this
available. Well done!

David

PS: Whose vingers are those?

On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 8:55 AM, Andreas Schlegel lute.cor...@sunrise.ch wrote:
 Hello

 Here's a link to a reproduction of B-Bc FA VI 10 including the research work 
 of François-Pierre Goy and me on this manuscript. The text is written in 
 Netherlands, French and German. If somebody would add an English translation, 
 it would be very welcome. Please contact me.

 http://www.accordsnouveaux.ch/de/B-Bc_FA_VI_10/B-Bc_FA_VI_10.html

 Enjoy!


 Andreas


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[BAROQUE-LUTE] B-Bc FA VI 10 Hyperlinks

2010-03-04 Thread Andreas Schlegel
I forgot: Have a look on the hyperlinks we made between the content, the pieces 
and the concordance table.

Enjoy!

Andreas


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[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: B-Bc FA VI 10

2010-03-04 Thread Juan Fco. Prieto
   Awesome!

   Thanks, Andreas



   Juan F.

   2010/3/4 Andreas Schlegel [1]lute.cor...@sunrise.ch

 Hello
 Here's a link to a reproduction of B-Bc FA VI 10 including the
 research work of Franc,ois-Pierre Goy and me on this manuscript. The
 text is written in Netherlands, French and German. If somebody would
 add an English translation, it would be very welcome. Please contact
 me.
 [2]http://www.accordsnouveaux.ch/de/B-Bc_FA_VI_10/B-Bc_FA_VI_10.html
 Enjoy!
 Andreas
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[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: B-Bc FA VI 10

2010-03-04 Thread Nicolás Valencia
Wunderschön... Vielen Dank!

 -Mensaje original-
 De: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] En
 nombre de Andreas Schlegel
 Enviado el: jueves, 04 de marzo de 2010 02:55
 Para: lute list; BAROQUE-LUTE Lutelist
 Asunto: [BAROQUE-LUTE] B-Bc FA VI 10
 
 Hello
 
 Here's a link to a reproduction of B-Bc FA VI 10 including the research
 work of François-Pierre Goy and me on this manuscript. The text is
 written in Netherlands, French and German. If somebody would add an
 English translation, it would be very welcome. Please contact me.
 
 http://www.accordsnouveaux.ch/de/B-Bc_FA_VI_10/B-Bc_FA_VI_10.html
 
 Enjoy!
 
 
 Andreas
 
 
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[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Lute obligatto in Ensemble, Diplomarbeit

2010-03-04 Thread David van Ooijen
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 11:44 PM, ziv braha b_...@hotmail.com wrote:

Nice list and thanks for sharing it.

Off hand, there's another concerto by Fasch, this one for two
Chaldecons (it's in in G. FWV L;G11 Dresden Sächsische
Landesbibliothek, Mus 2423-O-18). Does your definition include Dalla
Casa's Mandolin + Archlute pieces? I believe the Haydn pieces are
arrangements by someone else. Would your list include Cantata's? If so
there's BWV198 to include, and while you're at it St. John and St.
Matthew, a _long_ passion by Gebel and St. Caecilia's ode by
Handel/Mozart, but those are not chamber works, of course.

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[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Lute obligatto in Ensemble, Diplomarbeit

2010-03-04 Thread David van Ooijen
Krebs - Concerto in C
Krebs - Concerto in F (there are two different versions of the lute part)

Both concertos are available in modern editions from Edizioni Suvini Zerboni.

David

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[LUTE] Re: Dalza question.

2010-03-04 Thread Peter Martin
   A handsome facsimile of the Pesaro manuscript can be yours for a mere
   180 euros, plus postage and packing of course.

   [1]http://www.amadeusmusic.ch/index.php

   (search for Pesaro)

   P
   On 4 March 2010 04:47, Daniel F Heiman [2]heiman.dan...@juno.com
   wrote:

 The two most important manuscript sources known to survive from the
 pre-print era are known as Pesaro and Thibault.
 May I suggest that you purchase A History of the Lute from the
 LSA?
 (See the website for details.)
 Spring is also good, but he focuses pretty closely on the British
 Isles.
 Daniel Heiman

   On Wed, 03 Mar 2010 17:24:25 -0500 Christopher Stetson
   [3]cstet...@smith.edu writes:
   Hi,
   
   Thanks to all for great answers to my calata question and a good
   ensuing discussion.  It leads me to another question, that came
up as I
   was lying in bed thinking about my upcoming program, to whit:
are
   there any significant manuscript sources of lute tablature that
predate
   the first printed books?
   
   Thanks again,
   
   Chris.
   
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[LUTE] Re: Dalza question.

2010-03-04 Thread Spring, aus dem, Rainer
A wonderful facsimile edition, indeed.



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Subject: [LUTE] Re: Dalza question.

   A handsome facsimile of the Pesaro manuscript can be yours for a mere
   180 euros, plus postage and packing of course.

   [1]http://www.amadeusmusic.ch/index.php

   (search for Pesaro)

   P
   On 4 March 2010 04:47, Daniel F Heiman [2]heiman.dan...@juno.com
   wrote:

 The two most important manuscript sources known to survive from the
 pre-print era are known as Pesaro and Thibault.
 May I suggest that you purchase A History of the Lute from the
 LSA?
 (See the website for details.)
 Spring is also good, but he focuses pretty closely on the British
 Isles.
 Daniel Heiman

   On Wed, 03 Mar 2010 17:24:25 -0500 Christopher Stetson
   [3]cstet...@smith.edu writes:
   Hi,
   
   Thanks to all for great answers to my calata question and a good
   ensuing discussion.  It leads me to another question, that came
up as I
   was lying in bed thinking about my upcoming program, to whit:
are
   there any significant manuscript sources of lute tablature that
predate
   the first printed books?
   
   Thanks again,
   
   Chris.
   
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[LUTE] Re: Dalza question.

2010-03-04 Thread David van Ooijen
On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 9:49 AM, Peter Martin peter.l...@gmail.com wrote:
   A handsome facsimile of the Pesaro manuscript can be yours for a mere
   180 euros, plus postage and packing of course.

And there's more than just the Pesaro ms for that money. Good book.

David



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[LUTE] Re: Dalza question.

2010-03-04 Thread R. Mattes
On Thu, 4 Mar 2010 09:49:37 +0100, Peter Martin wrote
 A handsome facsimile of the Pesaro manuscript can be yours for a mere
180 euros, plus postage and packing of course.

Don't be so sarcastic. This is a high-quality full color facsimile and
also contains (bw) facsimiles of the Kassel Fragment, the rediscovered
Blindhammer Manuscript (Wertheim) and the Freiburg i.Ue. Fascicle as well as
some minor sources. 
For Pesaro there's also Vladimir Ivanoff ('Das Pesaro-Manuskript
ein Beitrag zur Fru#776;hgeschichte der Lautentabulatur').

 HTH Ralf Mattes

[1]http://www.amadeusmusic.ch/index.php
 
(search for Pesaro)
 
P
On 4 March 2010 04:47, Daniel F Heiman [2]heiman.dan...@juno.com
wrote:
 
  The two most important manuscript sources known to survive from 
 the pre-print era are known as Pesaro and Thibault. May I 
 suggest that you purchase A History of the Lute from the LSA?
  (See the website for details.) Spring is also good, but he 
 focuses pretty closely on the British Isles. Daniel Heiman
 
On Wed, 03 Mar 2010 17:24:25 -0500 Christopher Stetson
[3]cstet...@smith.edu writes:
Hi,

Thanks to all for great answers to my calata question and a good
ensuing discussion.  It leads me to another question, that came
 up as I
was lying in bed thinking about my upcoming program, to whit:
 are
there any significant manuscript sources of lute tablature that
 predate
the first printed books?

Thanks again,

Chris.

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[LUTE] Re: Dalza question.

2010-03-04 Thread Peter Martin
   I know it is.  When it came out in 2004 I took a deep breath and paid
   the money, and I am delighted with it.  It's a beautiful book.  But it
   is also the most expensive book I have ever bought, by some way

   P
   On 4 March 2010 10:54, R. Mattes [1...@mh-freiburg.de wrote:

 On Thu, 4 Mar 2010 09:49:37 +0100, Peter Martin wrote

A handsome facsimile of the Pesaro manuscript can be yours for a mere
   180 euros, plus postage and packing of course.

 Don't be so sarcastic. This is a high-quality full color facsimile
 and
 also contains (bw) facsimiles of the Kassel Fragment, the
 rediscovered
 Blindhammer Manuscript (Wertheim) and the Freiburg i.Ue. Fascicle as
 well as
 some minor sources.
 For Pesaro there's also Vladimir Ivanoff ('Das Pesaro-Manuskript
 ein Beitrag zur Fru#776;hgeschichte der Lautentabulatur').
  HTH Ralf Mattes

   [1][2]http://www.amadeusmusic.ch/index.php
   
   (search for Pesaro)
   
   P
   On 4 March 2010 04:47, Daniel F Heiman
   [2][3]heiman.dan...@juno.com
   wrote:
   
 The two most important manuscript sources known to survive from
the pre-print era are known as Pesaro and Thibault. May I
suggest that you purchase A History of the Lute from the LSA?
 (See the website for details.) Spring is also good, but he
focuses pretty closely on the British Isles. Daniel Heiman
   

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[LUTE] Re: Dalza question.

2010-03-04 Thread wolfgang wiehe
transcriptions from some early german lute mansucripts are available from
lyremusic.com
including the blindhamer manuscript
greetings
w.
###
The Art of the Lute in Renaissance Germany
Volume 1: Early Manuscripts
A collection of four articles on Renaissance German lute
music found in early German tablature manuscripts by
four different authors: John H. Robinson’s article examines
the music of Maximilian’s court organist, Paul Hofhaimer
found in early German lute sources; Denys Stephens reviews
music from the German tablature section of Wroclaw
352; Wolfgang Wiehe has transcribed some very interesting
music from Ms. 272 including Josquin’s Preter rerum
seriam; and Dick Hoban’s article examines the similarities
between two manuscripts from the 1520’s, the so called
“Adolf Blindhamer” manuscript and an obscure manuscript
now in Krakow Poland. All pieces are in French tablature
and have been transcribed from the original German tablature
manuscript sources for this publication. The book has
over 200 pages of text and music.
$35.00 plus $10.00 US postage or
$21.00 international postage
d.ho...@tcu.edu
#
 Original-Nachricht 
 Datum: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 10:54:02 +0100
 Von: R. Mattes r...@mh-freiburg.de
 An: Peter Martin peter.l...@gmail.com, Lute list lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
 Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Dalza question.

 On Thu, 4 Mar 2010 09:49:37 +0100, Peter Martin wrote
  A handsome facsimile of the Pesaro manuscript can be yours for a mere
 180 euros, plus postage and packing of course.
 
 Don't be so sarcastic. This is a high-quality full color facsimile and
 also contains (bw) facsimiles of the Kassel Fragment, the rediscovered
 Blindhammer Manuscript (Wertheim) and the Freiburg i.Ue. Fascicle as well
 as
 some minor sources. 
 For Pesaro there's also Vladimir Ivanoff ('Das Pesaro-Manuskript
 ein Beitrag zur Fru#776;hgeschichte der Lautentabulatur').
 
  HTH Ralf Mattes
 
 [1]http://www.amadeusmusic.ch/index.php
  
 (search for Pesaro)
  
 P
 On 4 March 2010 04:47, Daniel F Heiman [2]heiman.dan...@juno.com
 wrote:
  
   The two most important manuscript sources known to survive from 
  the pre-print era are known as Pesaro and Thibault. May I 
  suggest that you purchase A History of the Lute from the LSA?
   (See the website for details.) Spring is also good, but he 
  focuses pretty closely on the British Isles. Daniel Heiman
  
 On Wed, 03 Mar 2010 17:24:25 -0500 Christopher Stetson
 [3]cstet...@smith.edu writes:
 Hi,
 
 Thanks to all for great answers to my calata question and a good
 ensuing discussion.  It leads me to another question, that came
  up as I
 was lying in bed thinking about my upcoming program, to whit:
  are
 there any significant manuscript sources of lute tablature that
  predate
 the first printed books?
 
 Thanks again,
 
 Chris.
 
 --
 
  
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[LUTE] OSU Today and lutes (or not)

2010-03-04 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
   I work for The Ohio State University and receive a daily electronic
   newsletter from the institution called OSU Today.  That communication
   vehicle features very little (i.e., nothing at all) specific to lute.
   However, today's does feature an announcement of a public forum
   discussion to occur at OSU's own art museum, the Wexner Center:


 March 9: 'Do Museums Still Need Objects?' panel discussion

Fred Andrle, Humanities Institute associate, will host a panel

discussion featuring Steven Conn, OSU professor of history,

director of the Public History Initiative, and author of Do

Museums Still Need Objects? at 4:30 p.m. Tuesday (3/9) at

the Wexner Center Film and Video Theater. Panelists include

David Chesebrough, COSI president and CEO; Sherri Geldin,

director, Wexner Center for the Arts; Burt Logan, executive

director and CEO, Ohio Historical Society; and Nannette

Maciejunes, executive director, Columbus Museum of Art.

Free and open to the public. Contact: Elizabeth Lantz at

[1]mailto:lantz...@osu.edu


   Given the recent doings at the VA, I'm just a little frightened that
   the topic of this discussion is considered viable at all, whichever way
   it turns.  I admit that I have not read Steven Conn's text.


   Pessimistically,

   Eugene

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[LUTE] Re: OSU Today and lutes (or not)

2010-03-04 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV

A follow up link:
http://www.wexarts.org/ed/?eventid=4653

Eugene

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 Behalf Of Eugene C. Braig IV
 Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 12:15 PM
 To: 'Lutelist'
 Cc: 'Robert Adelson'
 Subject: [LUTE] OSU Today and lutes (or not)
 
I work for The Ohio State University and receive a daily electronic
newsletter from the institution called OSU Today.  That communication
vehicle features very little (i.e., nothing at all) specific to lute.
However, today's does feature an announcement of a public forum
discussion to occur at OSU's own art museum, the Wexner Center:
 
 
  March 9: 'Do Museums Still Need Objects?' panel discussion
  Fred Andrle, Humanities Institute associate, will host a panel
  discussion featuring Steven Conn, OSU professor of history,
  director of the Public History Initiative, and author of Do
  Museums Still Need Objects? at 4:30 p.m. Tuesday (3/9) at
  the Wexner Center Film and Video Theater. Panelists include
  David Chesebrough, COSI president and CEO; Sherri Geldin,
  director, Wexner Center for the Arts; Burt Logan, executive
  director and CEO, Ohio Historical Society; and Nannette
  Maciejunes, executive director, Columbus Museum of Art.
  Free and open to the public. Contact: Elizabeth Lantz at
  [1]mailto:lantz...@osu.edu
 
 
Given the recent doings at the VA, I'm just a little frightened that
the topic of this discussion is considered viable at all, whichever way
it turns.  I admit that I have not read Steven Conn's text.
 
 
Pessimistically,
 
Eugene




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[LUTE] Re: Dalza question.

2010-03-04 Thread Stuart Walsh

David Tayler wrote:
I play a lot of the Paumann from the score, and there are some nice 
arrangements as well. But a lot of them can be played note for note 
on the lute.

dt

  



Michal Gondko has recorded some Buxheim pieces for solo lute, e.g. 
Boumgartner and Pulcherrima De Virgine ( with his own added variation 
for each) and they sound very fine.


David Fallows, a long time ago, suggested that some of the Buxheim 
pieces could be the basis of plucked duets.


But the problem for an average player either as soloist or playing the 
top part, is that this stuff isn't easy going. Even at a slow pulse (in 
modern thinking and notation) of three to a bar there will be 
demisemiquavers all over the shop.I've struggled with much of this music 
- if I play the fastest notes as fast as I can, still the overall pulse 
is just too slow. Maybe this music is not for amateurs (not amateur 
pluckers, anyway).



Stuart



At 02:24 PM 3/3/2010, you wrote:
  

   Hi,

   Thanks to all for great answers to my calata question and a good
   ensuing discussion.  It leads me to another question, that came up as I
   was lying in bed thinking about my upcoming program, to whit:  are
   there any significant manuscript sources of lute tablature that predate
   the first printed books?

   Thanks again,

   Chris.

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