[LUTE] tuners
Anyone know of an electronic tuner that calibrates to a=392? My KORG does a=415, but only drops to 410... I have found a couple that allow you to calibrate some "flats", which the vendor says would do the same thing, but one that calibrates to 392 would ease my suspicions. Garry -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: tuners
If you are iPhone or iPad user, Cleartune - Chromatic Tuner is available. This application allows you to set A = 392Hz. http://kakitoshilute.blogspot.com/2011/08/cleartune-chromatic-tuner.html http://www.bitcount.com/cleartune/features.html * Toshiaki Kakinami E-mail : tk...@orchid.plala.or.jp Blog : http://kakitoshilute.blogspot.com * -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Garry Warber Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 7:16 PM To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] tuners Anyone know of an electronic tuner that calibrates to a=392? My KORG does a=415, but only drops to 410... I have found a couple that allow you to calibrate some "flats", which the vendor says would do the same thing, but one that calibrates to 392 would ease my suspicions. Garry -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: tuners
Fantastic, the cleartune chromatic tuner - gives you a choice of temperaments with a chosen key, very precise and dependable, besides being handily availlable in the iphone... Em 05/08/2011, às 09:07, T.Kakinami escreveu: If you are iPhone or iPad user, Cleartune - Chromatic Tuner is available. This application allows you to set A = 392Hz. http://kakitoshilute.blogspot.com/2011/08/cleartune-chromatic-tuner.html http://www.bitcount.com/cleartune/features.html * Toshiaki Kakinami E-mail : tk...@orchid.plala.or.jp Blog : http://kakitoshilute.blogspot.com * -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Garry Warber Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 7:16 PM To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] tuners Anyone know of an electronic tuner that calibrates to a=392? My KORG does a=415, but only drops to 410... I have found a couple that allow you to calibrate some "flats", which the vendor says would do the same thing, but one that calibrates to 392 would ease my suspicions. Garry -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: tuners
On Fri, 5 Aug 2011 21:07:38 +0900, T.Kakinami wrote > If you are iPhone or iPad user, Cleartune - Chromatic Tuner is available. > This application allows you to set A = 392Hz. Or any Android system. The price of a cheaper Android system plus ClearTune might be cheaper than a fancy traditional tuner box. Cheers, Ralf Mattes > http://kakitoshilute.blogspot.com/2011/08/cleartune-chromatic-tuner.html > http://www.bitcount.com/cleartune/features.html > > * > Toshiaki Kakinami > E-mail : tk...@orchid.plala.or.jp > Blog : http://kakitoshilute.blogspot.com > * > > -Original Message- > From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] > On Behalf Of Garry Warber Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 7:16 PM To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu > Subject: [LUTE] tuners > >Anyone know of an electronic tuner that calibrates to a=392? My KORG >does a=415, but only drops to 410... I have found a couple that allow >you to calibrate some "flats", which the vendor says would do the > same thing, but one that calibrates to 392 would ease my suspicions. > >Garry > >-- > > To get on or off this list see list information at > http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- R. Mattes - Hochschule fuer Musik Freiburg r...@inm.mh-freiburg.de
[LUTE] tuner re's
Thank you all... I only discovered electronic-tuner handiness from my grandson when he used his app on his I-phone last month. I personally do not have a cell phone, by choice. So, if I'm getting this, any 440 tuner would work by tuning every course a full step "low", then do a mind trick of telling yourself it's regular lute tuning? For example my lute would become, low to high, C, E-flat, F,B-flat, E-flat, G, C, F, which I would then convince myself it's still D, F, G, C, F, A, D, G in a=392? Wow... Perhaps just staying at a=415 is just fine... Garry -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: tuners
Violab tuner will give you al the different a pitches you want and in 10+ different tunings. r -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Garry Warber Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 6:16 AM To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] tuners Anyone know of an electronic tuner that calibrates to a=392? My KORG does a=415, but only drops to 410... I have found a couple that allow you to calibrate some "flats", which the vendor says would do the same thing, but one that calibrates to 392 would ease my suspicions. Garry -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: tuner re's
On Fri, 5 Aug 2011 09:22:13 -0400, Garry Warber wrote > Thank you all... I only discovered electronic-tuner handiness > from my grandson when he used his app on his I-phone last month. > I personally do not have a cell phone, by choice. But you can use the 'cell phone' just as an excellent digital tuner. And with Android systems in the range of 90$ plus 4$ for ClearTune you're still at appr. half the price of a Violab tuner. >So, if I'm getting this, any 440 tuner would work by tuning every >course a full step "low", then do a mind trick of telling > yourself it's regular lute tuning? For example my lute would > become, low to high, C, E-flat, F,B-flat, E-flat, G, C, F, which I > would then convince myself it's still D, F, G, C, F, A, D, G in > a=392? Wow... Perhaps just staying at a=415 is just fine... Kind of: 392 (well, 391.9...) is one tempered whole step below 440. But I find it anoying to transpose while tuning. And that -only_ works for equal temprament. In pythagorean the whole step below 440 is at 384 etc. HTH Ralf Mattes >Garry > >-- > > To get on or off this list see list information at > http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- R. Mattes - Hochschule fuer Musik Freiburg r...@inm.mh-freiburg.de
[LUTE] Re: tuner re's
You don't need the phone. The Cleartune tuner is downloadable to any iPad Touch. You may be able to pick up a used 1st or 2nd generation for fairly cheap at this point. Sean On Aug 5, 2011, at 6:55 AM, R. Mattes wrote: On Fri, 5 Aug 2011 09:22:13 -0400, Garry Warber wrote Thank you all... I only discovered electronic-tuner handiness from my grandson when he used his app on his I-phone last month. I personally do not have a cell phone, by choice. But you can use the 'cell phone' just as an excellent digital tuner. And with Android systems in the range of 90$ plus 4$ for ClearTune you're still at appr. half the price of a Violab tuner. So, if I'm getting this, any 440 tuner would work by tuning every course a full step "low", then do a mind trick of telling yourself it's regular lute tuning? For example my lute would become, low to high, C, E-flat, F,B-flat, E-flat, G, C, F, which I would then convince myself it's still D, F, G, C, F, A, D, G in a=392? Wow... Perhaps just staying at a=415 is just fine... Kind of: 392 (well, 391.9...) is one tempered whole step below 440. But I find it anoying to transpose while tuning. And that -only_ works for equal temprament. In pythagorean the whole step below 440 is at 384 etc. HTH Ralf Mattes Garry -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- R. Mattes - Hochschule fuer Musik Freiburg r...@inm.mh-freiburg.de
[LUTE] Re: tuners
I use a Peterson Strobe tuner -the V-SAM which only adjusts down to 410 but it also has a control system that allows you to transpose the displayed note by semitones. If I am tuning a 10c lute where the top string is tuned to F (a' = 44hz) by adjusting the transposing knob down by 2 semitones the output will then appear 2 semitones higher and it appears that I am tuning a lute in G. The transposition setting remains until the tuner is turned off or the transposition is corrected. Charles Browne char...@brownecowie.fsnet.co.uk To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: tuner re's
Ooops! But you will need a microphone. Meritline sells one for $2 that is essentially a little button that plugs into the earphones slot. http://www.meritline.com/apple-mini-microphone-mic-recorder---p-37453.aspx You don't need the phone. The Cleartune tuner is downloadable to any iPad Touch. You may be able to pick up a used 1st or 2nd generation for fairly cheap at this point. Sean On Aug 5, 2011, at 6:55 AM, R. Mattes wrote: On Fri, 5 Aug 2011 09:22:13 -0400, Garry Warber wrote Thank you all... I only discovered electronic-tuner handiness from my grandson when he used his app on his I-phone last month. I personally do not have a cell phone, by choice. But you can use the 'cell phone' just as an excellent digital tuner. And with Android systems in the range of 90$ plus 4$ for ClearTune you're still at appr. half the price of a Violab tuner. So, if I'm getting this, any 440 tuner would work by tuning every course a full step "low", then do a mind trick of telling yourself it's regular lute tuning? For example my lute would become, low to high, C, E-flat, F,B-flat, E-flat, G, C, F, which I would then convince myself it's still D, F, G, C, F, A, D, G in a=392? Wow... Perhaps just staying at a=415 is just fine... Kind of: 392 (well, 391.9...) is one tempered whole step below 440. But I find it anoying to transpose while tuning. And that -only_ works for equal temprament. In pythagorean the whole step below 440 is at 384 etc. HTH Ralf Mattes Garry -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- R. Mattes - Hochschule fuer Musik Freiburg r...@inm.mh-freiburg.de
[LUTE] Re: tuner re's
Yes, you could think of your lute as being "in F", or you could think of it as being "in G at a'=392". Since I have a Korg which allows me to set a'=392, I tend to go for the latter these days. It also allows me to not to have to think too much about whether all the notes are in the correct temperament, since I tend to go for 1/6th comma meantone, and I'm never quite sure whether once you get into Eb and Bb and so on whether they are what they say they are. By the way, the Korg doesn't do 1/6 comma, but Vallotti is the same for the open strings in nominal G tuning. Sorry, I've probably confused you more Martin On 05/08/2011 14:22, Garry Warber wrote: Thank you all... I only discovered electronic-tuner handiness from my grandson when he used his app on his I-phone last month. I personally do not have a cell phone, by choice. So, if I'm getting this, any 440 tuner would work by tuning every course a full step "low", then do a mind trick of telling yourself it's regular lute tuning? For example my lute would become, low to high, C, E-flat, F,B-flat, E-flat, G, C, F, which I would then convince myself it's still D, F, G, C, F, A, D, G in a=392? Wow... Perhaps just staying at a=415 is just fine... Garry -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Galilei lute works
Hi, folks - a couple questions about Galilei lute works: Is the Primo Libro D'intavolatura di Liuto the only collection of his stuff, or did he write more? I've got the Edizioni Suvini Zerboni of this book - found it in the Toronto library. Would anyone know how where I might go to find my own copy? Thank - hope everyone is enjoying the summer - BCS To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: tuner re's
Am 05.08.2011, 16:25 Uhr, schrieb Martin Shepherd : snip... By the way, the Korg doesn't do 1/6 comma, but Vallotti is the same for the open strings in nominal G tuning. Well, that depends on what comma you think of. If your 1/6 comma is pythagorean it's indeed the same as Vallotti for all the naturals, if the comma is syntonic, it's not. Best regards, Stephan Sorry, I've probably confused you more Martin On 05/08/2011 14:22, Garry Warber wrote: Thank you all... I only discovered electronic-tuner handiness from my grandson when he used his app on his I-phone last month. I personally do not have a cell phone, by choice. So, if I'm getting this, any 440 tuner would work by tuning every course a full step "low", then do a mind trick of telling yourself it's regular lute tuning? For example my lute would become, low to high, C, E-flat, F,B-flat, E-flat, G, C, F, which I would then convince myself it's still D, F, G, C, F, A, D, G in a=392? Wow... Perhaps just staying at a=415 is just fine... Garry -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- Erstellt mit Operas revolutionärem E-Mail-Modul: http://www.opera.com/mail/
[LUTE] Re: Galilei lute works
Hi Benny, Hi, folks - a couple questions about Galilei lute works: Is the Primo Libro D'intavolatura di Liuto the only collection of his stuff, or did he write more? I think almost everything we know is in there. One would have to look up the collections of Fuhrmann, Mertel, Besard and Mylius. Great guy, he wrote about the music on saturn, I believe ;)) ThePrime libro facsimile you can order at www.tree-edition.com regards Bernd I've got the Edizioni Suvini Zerboni of this book - found it in the Toronto library. Would anyone know how where I might go to find my own copy? Thank - hope everyone is enjoying the summer - BCS To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Galilei lute works
What about the Fronimo Dialogo : Fac simile here : http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k582176 Val -Message d'origine- De : lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] De la part de be...@interlog.com Envoyé : vendredi 5 août 2011 18:41 À : LuteNet list Objet : [LUTE] Galilei lute works Hi, folks - a couple questions about Galilei lute works: Is the Primo Libro D'intavolatura di Liuto the only collection of his stuff, or did he write more? I've got the Edizioni Suvini Zerboni of this book - found it in the Toronto library. Would anyone know how where I might go to find my own copy? Thank - hope everyone is enjoying the summer - BCS To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Galilei lute works
> What about the Fronimo Dialogo : > Fac simile here : > > http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k582176 That's Michelangelo's father. Mathias > -Message d'origine- > De : lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] De la part > de be...@interlog.com Envoyé : vendredi 5 août 2011 18:41 À : LuteNet list > Objet : [LUTE] Galilei lute works > > Hi, folks - a couple questions about Galilei lute works: > > Is the Primo Libro D'intavolatura di Liuto the only collection of his stuff, or did > he write more? > > I've got the Edizioni Suvini Zerboni of this book - found it in the Toronto library. > Would anyone know how where I might go to find my own copy? Thank - hope > everyone is enjoying the summer - BCS > > > > To get on or off this list see list information at > http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > >
[LUTE] Re: Galilei lute works
I found this in our local music library a few years ago and rather liked it: Le gagliarde dal Libro d'intavolatura di liuto (Gal; 6): edizione critica con intavolature per liuto e con trascrizione in notazione moderna Responsibility Vincenzo Galilei; a cura di Giulia Perni Publication Info Publication Information: Pisa: Edizioni ETS, ©2000 -Original Message- From: be...@interlog.com Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 11:41 AM To: LuteNet list Subject: [LUTE] Galilei lute works Hi, folks - a couple questions about Galilei lute works: Is the Primo Libro D'intavolatura di Liuto the only collection of his stuff, or did he write more? I've got the Edizioni Suvini Zerboni of this book - found it in the Toronto library. Would anyone know how where I might go to find my own copy? Thank - hope everyone is enjoying the summer - BCS To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: tuner re's
Hello, You can download Tunelab software, trial version for free from www.tunelab-world.com it will work long enough to tune a lute (or wait a few minutes before you can relaunch). Works on a laptop with Windows or on a pocket pc. You can choose temperament and any pitch. All the best Roland Hogman 2011/8/5, Garry Warber : >Thank you all... I only discovered electronic-tuner handiness from my >grandson when he used his app on his I-phone last month. I personally >do not have a cell phone, by choice. > >So, if I'm getting this, any 440 tuner would work by tuning every >course a full step "low", then do a mind trick of telling yourself it's >regular lute tuning? For example my lute would become, low to high, C, >E-flat, F,B-flat, E-flat, G, C, F, which I would then convince myself >it's still D, F, G, C, F, A, D, G in a=392? Wow... Perhaps just >staying at a=415 is just fine... > >Garry > >-- > > > To get on or off this list see list information at > http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > -- Skickat från min mobila enhet /Roland
[LUTE] Re: tuner re's
I use mainly Cleartune and iPegs on the iPhone. The latter has all sorts of masochistic commas of all imaginable colors and flavors. RT - Original Message - From: "Roland Hogman" <4lu...@gmail.com> To: "Garry Warber" ; Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 6:32 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: tuner re's Hello, You can download Tunelab software, trial version for free from www.tunelab-world.com it will work long enough to tune a lute (or wait a few minutes before you can relaunch). Works on a laptop with Windows or on a pocket pc. You can choose temperament and any pitch. All the best Roland Hogman 2011/8/5, Garry Warber : Thank you all... I only discovered electronic-tuner handiness from my grandson when he used his app on his I-phone last month. I personally do not have a cell phone, by choice. So, if I'm getting this, any 440 tuner would work by tuning every course a full step "low", then do a mind trick of telling yourself it's regular lute tuning? For example my lute would become, low to high, C, E-flat, F,B-flat, E-flat, G, C, F, which I would then convince myself it's still D, F, G, C, F, A, D, G in a=392? Wow... Perhaps just staying at a=415 is just fine... Garry -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- Skickat från min mobila enhet /Roland
[LUTE] Re: Galilei lute works
Thanks, folks! BCS Quoting Stephen Arndt : I found this in our local music library a few years ago and rather liked it: Le gagliarde dal Libro d'intavolatura di liuto (Gal; 6): edizione critica con intavolature per liuto e con trascrizione in notazione moderna Responsibility Vincenzo Galilei; a cura di Giulia Perni Publication Info Publication Information: Pisa: Edizioni ETS, ©2000 -Original Message- From: be...@interlog.com Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 11:41 AM To: LuteNet list Subject: [LUTE] Galilei lute works Hi, folks - a couple questions about Galilei lute works: Is the Primo Libro D'intavolatura di Liuto the only collection of his stuff, or did he write more? I've got the Edizioni Suvini Zerboni of this book - found it in the Toronto library. Would anyone know how where I might go to find my own copy? Thank - hope everyone is enjoying the summer - BCS To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: tuners
I have a V-SAM too. It also has two user temperament spots. I have one set at G 6th comma mean tone and another at A 6th comma mean tone for Ren lutes. I believe the Violab is sound only where the V-sam can do meter or tone as well as metronome. It isn't perfect though. On Aug 5, 2011, at 11:21 PM, Charles Browne wrote: I use a Peterson Strobe tuner -the V-SAM which only adjusts down to 410 but it also has a control system that allows you to transpose the displayed note by semitones. If I am tuning a 10c lute where the top string is tuned to F (a' = 44hz) by adjusting the transposing knob down by 2 semitones the output will then appear 2 semitones higher and it appears that I am tuning a lute in G. The transposition setting remains until the tuner is turned off or the transposition is corrected. Charles Browne [1]char...@brownecowie.fsnet.co.uk To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html Ed Durbrow Saitama, Japan [2]http://www.musicianspage.com/musicians/9688/ [3]http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/ -- References 1. mailto:char...@brownecowie.fsnet.co.uk 2. http://www.musicianspage.com/musicians/9688/ 3. http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/
