[LUTE] private

[Anton Höger]

Hi,

If someone sends me a private email then I sent back privately to him! But this 
specially E-Mail this accusation relates to my work on the whole Lute 
community. 
Therefore I sent it to the lute group!
I must not publish my Intabulations!
So think its better to stop my work.


Anton


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[LUTE] Re: insinuations

[G. C.]

   Ralph, I wholeheartedly agree with you there. To post a private mail to
   the list without consent, especially if the mail contains private
   opinions one has chosen to send directly and not via the list, in not
   only faux-pas, but also incredibly arrogant and rude. As is inundating
   the list with what can very easily be categorized as spam.
   Best
   G.

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Re: Re: insinuations

[Ralf Mattes]

 
Am Mittwoch, 03. August 2016 21:23 CEST, "mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk" 
 schrieb: 
 
> There is just one point that I would like to make and that is that if 
> someone posts a message to this list I don't think that it is 
> appropriate for anyone to reply to them privately unless the person 
> posting the message has specifically asked people to do that.

That's a rather strange idea - there are _many_ reasons to only reply in a 
private/personal
mail. Imagine the OP making an embarassing fax-pas. Do you really prefer to 
inform her/him
in public? 
I was actually pretty shocked by Anton's mail: long, long ago I was told that 
replying to/forwarding a 
private mail to a mailing list/usenet group is considered incredibly rude (I 
got a copy of "Zen or the
Art of Internet" from the local Sysadmin when i applied for my first shell 
account). To qoute that manual:

 "In the interests of privacy, it's considered extremely bad taste to post any 
email that someone 
  may have sent, unless they explicitly give you permission to redistribute it. 
While the legal issues
  can be heavily debated, most everyone agrees that email should be treated as 
anything that are 
  carried with it."

But that was long before AOL ;-(

> That defeats the object of the list 

Depends.  Most replies _should_ go to the list (those being on-topic) but some 
are of no
concern to the list.


> and I for one have not got time to 
> engage separately in discussions with anyone and everyone about 
> everything. 

It used to be good practice to state this in your signature line ...

> It is also a breach of someones' privacy.

You've lost me here.

 Cheers, Ralf Mattes

> As ever..
> Monica 
> 
> 
> Original Message
> From: hodgsonmar...@mail.cs.dartmouth.edu
> Date: 03/08/2016 16:24 
> To: "List Lutelist"
> Subj: [LUTE] Re: insinuations
> 
> note: I am resenbding this message becasue it got caught in spam traps 
> - wayne
> 
>Dear Anton Hoger,
>I sent you a private email trying to be helpful and was therefore a 
> bit
>surprised to find you didn't reply to me but instead fired off a 
> touchy
>general response!  And I really don't know what you mean by
>'insinuations' - insinuations of what? Believe it, or not, I was 
> simply
>trying to helpfully suggest that you might save yourself a lot of 
> time
>and effort if you read pieces directly from the staff notation and 
> also
>learned figured bass rather than always having to employ an
>intermediate stage of written intabulation.
>Now you raise the matter, generally I do think that most reasonably
>competent players should be encouraged to make their own
>arrangements/transcriptions in their own style and, as I say, to be
>able to play reasonably fluently from staff notation without always
>having to rely on a modern intabulation made by a third party.
>Similarly, I think it good for lute players to be encouraged to 
> become
>fluent in Italian tablature without needing to rely on 
> transcriptions
>into the French system. The reliance on other peoples' arrangements 
> and
>transcriptions can, in my view, be restrictive and effectively close
>much of the enormous wealth of music from all ages.  I also believe
>that the process of making ones own arrangements/transcriptions is
>thoroughly enjoyable one (and really not 'rocket science') and is a
>personally creative way for individuals to discover original music 
> and
>repertoire new to them. And, I might add, to create something which
>ideally matches their individual technical capabilities, instrument
> (s)
>and musical tastes.
>MH
> 
>  Original message 
>From: Anton Hoeger
>Date:2016-08-03 03:24 (GMT-05:00)
>To: List Lutelist
>Subject: [LUTE] insinuations
>>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> Martin Hogson wrote:
>>
>> Dear Anton Hoger,
>>
>> Have you ever considered learning to play from figured bass? 
> This
>would save you much mundane work making these unnecessary
>transcriptions/arrangements.
>>
>> MH
>>
>>
>> Yes of course! But how do you bring my Renaissance 
> Intabulations
>  with
>Dimunitions in relation with a figured bass?
>> These one has nothing to do with the other one!
>> On the other side I have so far only very few Earlybaroque
>figured
>Bass edited pieces. Exactly this Arrangements may be interesting
>for
>the interprets. As a suggestion or such ways.
>> My 10 downloads and thousand credits show a different 
> image
>  than
>Your:  ...making these unnecessary transcriptions!.
>> Please stop these insinuations, if you have no idea.
>>
>>
>> Anton
> 
> 
> 
> 
> To get on or off this list see list 

[LUTE] Re: insinuations

[Dan Winheld]

  "Similarly, I think it good for lute players to be encouraged to become
   fluent in Italian tablature without needing to rely on transcriptions
   into the French system."

Thank You Martyn! This is one personal "takeaway" bit with which I passionately agree. I 
blame no one (well, my students- mainly & specifically) for not getting up to speed with German  
lute tab and pitch notation & BC- at least if they are not interested in concertizing & 
ensemble play- merely busy folks who only want to enjoy playing a little solo lute music in the 
evening after a busy workday. But I don't understand not taking the time to learn the Italian system. 
The only difficulty is flipping your brain upside down for a bit, then it becomes as easy as French 
tab.

(It's OK, Anton- you just keep doing what you do- I only want my students to 
eventually read straight from the wagonloads of fine Italian tab. editions that 
are already out there...  :-)

Dan




On 8/3/2016 9:24 AM, Martyn Hodgson wrote:

   Similarly, I think it good for lute players to be encouraged to become
fluent in Italian tablature without needing to rely on transcriptions
into the French system.





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[LUTE] Re: insinuations

[mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk]

There is just one point that I would like to make and that is that if 
someone posts a message to this list I don't think that it is 
appropriate for anyone to reply to them privately unless the person 
posting the message has specifically asked people to do that.
That defeats the object of the list and I for one have not got time to 
engage separately in discussions with anyone and everyone about 
everything.  It is also a breach of someones' privacy.
As ever..
Monica 


Original Message
From: hodgsonmar...@mail.cs.dartmouth.edu
Date: 03/08/2016 16:24 
To: "List Lutelist"
Subj: [LUTE] Re: insinuations

note: I am resenbding this message becasue it got caught in spam traps 
- wayne

   Dear Anton Hoger,
   I sent you a private email trying to be helpful and was therefore a 
bit
   surprised to find you didn't reply to me but instead fired off a 
touchy
   general response!  And I really don't know what you mean by
   'insinuations' - insinuations of what? Believe it, or not, I was 
simply
   trying to helpfully suggest that you might save yourself a lot of 
time
   and effort if you read pieces directly from the staff notation and 
also
   learned figured bass rather than always having to employ an
   intermediate stage of written intabulation.
   Now you raise the matter, generally I do think that most reasonably
   competent players should be encouraged to make their own
   arrangements/transcriptions in their own style and, as I say, to be
   able to play reasonably fluently from staff notation without always
   having to rely on a modern intabulation made by a third party.
   Similarly, I think it good for lute players to be encouraged to 
become
   fluent in Italian tablature without needing to rely on 
transcriptions
   into the French system. The reliance on other peoples' arrangements 
and
   transcriptions can, in my view, be restrictive and effectively close
   much of the enormous wealth of music from all ages.  I also believe
   that the process of making ones own arrangements/transcriptions is
   thoroughly enjoyable one (and really not 'rocket science') and is a
   personally creative way for individuals to discover original music 
and
   repertoire new to them. And, I might add, to create something which
   ideally matches their individual technical capabilities, instrument
(s)
   and musical tastes.
   MH

 Original message 
   From: Anton Hoeger
   Date:2016-08-03 03:24 (GMT-05:00)
   To: List Lutelist
   Subject: [LUTE] insinuations
   >
   > Hi everyone,
   >
   > Martin Hogson wrote:
   >
   > Dear Anton Hoger,
   >
   > Have you ever considered learning to play from figured bass? 
This
   would save you much mundane work making these unnecessary
   transcriptions/arrangements.
   >
   > MH
   >
   >
   > Yes of course! But how do you bring my Renaissance 
Intabulations
 with
   Dimunitions in relation with a figured bass?
   > These one has nothing to do with the other one!
   > On the other side I have so far only very few Earlybaroque
   figured
   Bass edited pieces. Exactly this Arrangements may be interesting
   for
   the interprets. As a suggestion or such ways.
   > My 10 downloads and thousand credits show a different 
image
 than
   Your:  ...making these unnecessary transcriptions!.
   > Please stop these insinuations, if you have no idea.
   >
   >
   > Anton




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[LUTE] Re: insinuations

[Martyn Hodgson]

   note: I am resenbding this message becasue it got caught in spam traps - 
wayne

   Dear Anton Hoger,
   I sent you a private email trying to be helpful and was therefore a bit
   surprised to find you didn't reply to me but instead fired off a touchy
   general response!  And I really don't know what you mean by
   'insinuations' - insinuations of what? Believe it, or not, I was simply
   trying to helpfully suggest that you might save yourself a lot of time
   and effort if you read pieces directly from the staff notation and also
   learned figured bass rather than always having to employ an
   intermediate stage of written intabulation.
   Now you raise the matter, generally I do think that most reasonably
   competent players should be encouraged to make their own
   arrangements/transcriptions in their own style and, as I say, to be
   able to play reasonably fluently from staff notation without always
   having to rely on a modern intabulation made by a third party.
   Similarly, I think it good for lute players to be encouraged to become
   fluent in Italian tablature without needing to rely on transcriptions
   into the French system. The reliance on other peoples' arrangements and
   transcriptions can, in my view, be restrictive and effectively close
   much of the enormous wealth of music from all ages.  I also believe
   that the process of making ones own arrangements/transcriptions is
   thoroughly enjoyable one (and really not 'rocket science') and is a
   personally creative way for individuals to discover original music and
   repertoire new to them. And, I might add, to create something which
   ideally matches their individual technical capabilities, instrument(s)
   and musical tastes.
   MH

 Original message 
   From: Anton Hoeger
   Date:2016-08-03 03:24 (GMT-05:00)
   To: List Lutelist
   Subject: [LUTE] insinuations
   >
   > Hi everyone,
   >
   > Martin Hogson wrote:
   >
   > Dear Anton Hoger,
   >
   > Have you ever considered learning to play from figured bass? This
   would save you much mundane work making these unnecessary
   transcriptions/arrangements.
   >
   > MH
   >
   >
   > Yes of course! But how do you bring my Renaissance Intabulations
 with
   Dimunitions in relation with a figured bass?
   > These one has nothing to do with the other one!
   > On the other side I have so far only very few Earlybaroque
   figured
   Bass edited pieces. Exactly this Arrangements may be interesting
   for
   the interprets. As a suggestion or such ways.
   > My 10 downloads and thousand credits show a different image
 than
   Your:  ...making these unnecessary transcriptions!.
   > Please stop these insinuations, if you have no idea.
   >
   >
   > Anton




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[LUTE] Re: insinuations

[Martyn Hodgson]

   Dear Anton Hoger,
   I sent you a private email trying to be helpful and was therefore a bit
   surprised to find you didn't reply to me but instead fired off a touchy
   general response!  And I really don't know what you mean by
   'insinuations' - insinuations of what? Believe it, or not, I was simply
   trying to helpfully suggest that you might save yourself a lot of time
   and effort if you read pieces directly from the staff notation and also
   learned figured bass rather than always having to employ an
   intermediate stage of written intabulation.
   Now you raise the matter, generally I do think that most reasonably
   competent players should be encouraged to make their own
   arrangements/transcriptions in their own style and, as I say, to be
   able to play reasonably fluently from staff notation without always
   having to rely on a modern intabulation made by a third party.
   Similarly, I think it good for lute players to be encouraged to become
   fluent in Italian tablature without needing to rely on transcriptions
   into the French system. The reliance on other peoples' arrangements and
   transcriptions can, in my view, be restrictive and effectively close
   much of the enormous wealth of music from all ages.  I also believe
   that the process of making ones own arrangements/transcriptions is
   thoroughly enjoyable one (and really not 'rocket science') and is a
   personally creative way for individuals to discover original music and
   repertoire new to them. And, I might add, to create something which
   ideally matches their individual technical capabilities, instrument(s)
   and musical tastes.
   MH
 __

   From: jean-michel Catherinot 
   To: Bruno Cognyl -Fournier ; Anton HAP:ger
   ; List Lutelist 
   Sent: Wednesday, 3 August 2016, 13:35
   Subject: [LUTE] Re: insinuations
 I agree Bruno...
 Le Mercredi 3 aoA>>t 2016 13h25, Bruno Cognyl -Fournier
 <[1]fournier...@gmail.com> a A(c)crit :
   Anton
   let me say that I admire your work very much. Of course playing
   ftom
   notation is always good to be able to do and something I have
   taught
 to
   the few students I have had in 40 years, however one can usually do
   that on one or two sets of tunings..playing in trios and quartets
 with
   g, a, c , and d lutes become more tricky for the average guy.  your
   work is fantastic and allows players to be exposed to more than
   just
   lute repertoire.  I will be retiring ftom my job in a few years and
   intend on teaching lute to beginners . your material will be of
   great
   use.
   one wish..set some medieval pieces  especially the trecento
   stuff...
   regards
   Bruno Cognyl-Fournier
   Montreal
   Sent from Samsung Mobile
    Original message 
   From: Anton Hoeger
   Date:2016-08-03 03:24 (GMT-05:00)
   To: List Lutelist
   Subject: [LUTE] insinuations
   >
   > Hi everyone,
   >
   > Martin Hogson wrote:
   >
   > Dear Anton Hoger,
   >
   > Have you ever considered learning to play from figured bass? This
   would save you much mundane work making these unnecessary
   transcriptions/arrangements.
   >
   > MH
   >
   > Ja natuerlich! Aber was haben meine Renaissance Intabulations mit
   Dimunitions mit einem figured bass zu tun?
   > Das eine hat doch mit dem anderen nichts zu tun.
   > Ich habe bisher nur sehr wenig Fruehbarocke Generalbassstuecke
   bearbeitet. Ausserdem waeren doch genau diese Ausarbeitungen fuer
   den
   Interpreten interessant. Als Anregung, Alternativen oder sogar als
   fertige Ausfuehrun..
   > Meine 10 downloads und Tausend Danksagungen zeigen ein
   anderes
   Bild, als Dein  ...making these unnecessary transcriptions!!!
   > Bitte unterlasse doch diese Unverschaemtheiten, wenn Du keine
 Ahnung
   hast.
   >
   > Anton
   >
   > Yes of course! But how do you bring my Renaissance Intabulations
 with
   Dimunitions in relation with a figured bass?
   > These one has nothing to do with the other one!
   > On the other side I have so far only very few Earlybaroque
   figured
   Bass edited pieces. Exactly this Arrangements may be interesting
   for
   the interprets. As a suggestion or such ways.
   > My 10 downloads and thousand credits show a different image
 than
   Your:  ...making these unnecessary transcriptions!.
   > Please stop these insinuations, if you have no idea.
   >
   >
   > Anton
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[LUTE] Re[2]: insinuations

[bh]

   Dear Anton, I use your editions regularly, of course one should learn
   to play from staff notation and continuo, but your choice of repertoire
   is always rewarding. With your intabulations we have so much
   interesting music at our fingertips. I also like that you always
   reponded to discussions on layout and fingerings. Tanti saluti di Roma!
   B

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   Mittwoch, 03 August 2016, 04:53PM +0200 von Dan Winheld
   :

   -And I would like to add that Anton jumped right in with an incredibly
   generous, quick response when I needed  help finding lute/harp duets.
   Thanks again, Anton! -I don't know how you keep up your intense
   production.
   Dan
   On 8/3/2016 7:10 AM, Helen Atkinson wrote:
   > I'm a fan of your work, Anton. Many thanks.
   > Helen
   >
   > On 3 August 2016 at 14:49, Jean-Marie Poirier
   > <[1]jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr> wrote:
   >
   >   I do agree completely too !
   >   Best and very well done indeed, Anton !
   >   Do keep up the good work !
   >   Jean-Marie Poirier
   >   --
   >
   > >Anton
   > >
   > >let me say that I admire your work very much. Of course
   playing
   > ftom
   > >notation is always good to be able to do and something I
   have
   > taught to
   > >the few students I have had in 40 years, however one can
   usually
   > do
   > >that on one or two sets of tunings..playing in trios and
   quartets
   > with
   > >g, a, c , and d lutes become more tricky for the average
   guy.
   > your
   > >work is fantastic and allows players to be exposed to more
   than
   > just
   > >lute repertoire.   I will be retiring ftom my job in a few
   years
   > and
   > >intend on teaching lute to beginners . your material will be
   of
   > great
   > >use.
   > >
   > >one wish..set some medieval pieces   especially the trecento
   > stuff...
   > >
   > >regards
   > >
   > >Bruno Cognyl-Fournier
   > >
   > >Montreal
   > >
   > >Sent from Samsung Mobile
   > >
   > > Original message 
   > >
   > >From: Anton Hoeger
   > >
   > >Date:2016-08-03 03:24 (GMT-05:00)
   > >
   > >To: List Lutelist
   > >
   > >Subject: [LUTE] insinuations
   > >
   > >>
   > >> Hi everyone,
   > >>
   > >> Martin Hogson wrote:
   > >>
   > >> Dear Anton Hoger,
   > >>
   > >> Have you ever considered learning to play from figured
   bass?
   > This
   > >would save you much mundane work making these unnecessary
   > >transcriptions/arrangements.
   > >>
   > >> MH
   > >>
   > >> Ja natuerlich! Aber was haben meine Renaissance
   Intabulations
   > mit
   > >Dimunitions mit einem figured bass zu tun?
   > >> Das eine hat doch mit dem anderen nichts zu tun.
   > >> Ich habe bisher nur sehr wenig Fruehbarocke
   Generalbassstuecke
   > >bearbeitet. Ausserdem waeren doch genau diese Ausarbeitungen
   fuer
   > den
   > >Interpreten interessant. Als Anregung, Alternativen oder
   sogar als
   > >fertige Ausfuehrun..
   > >> Meine 10 downloads und Tausend Danksagungen zeigen ein
   > anderes
   > >Bild, als Dein   ...making these unnecessary
   transcriptions!!!
   > >> Bitte unterlasse doch diese Unverschaemtheiten, wenn Du
   keine
   > Ahnung
   > >hast.
   > >>
   > >> Anton
   > >>
   > >> Yes of course! But how do you bring my Renaissance
   Intabulations
   > with
   > >Dimunitions in relation with a figured bass?
   > >> These one has nothing to do with the other one!
   > >> On the other side I have so far only very few Earlybaroque
   > figured
   > >Bass edited pieces. Exactly this Arrangements may be
   interesting
   > for
   > >the interprets. As a suggestion or such ways.
   > >> My 10 downloads and thousand credits show a different
   image
   > than
   > >Your:   ...making these unnecessary transcriptions!.
   > >> Please stop these insinuations, if you have no idea.
   > >>
   > >>
   > >> Anton
   > >--
   > >To get on or off this list see list information at
   >
   >   >[2] http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
   >   >
   >
   > --
   >
   > References
   >
   > 1. mailto: jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr
   > 2.  http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
   >
   >

[LUTE] Re: insinuations

[Edward C. Yong]

Dear Anton,

I haven’t yet had a chance to sample your intabulations and arrangements, for a 
lack of lute players in my country. I hope to be able to do so soon. Please 
keep up the excellent work!

Sincerely from Singapore,

Edward C. Yong
edward.y...@gmail.com




> On 3 Aug 2016, at 3:24 pm, Anton Höger  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Hi everyone,
>> 
>> Martin Hogson wrote:
>> 
>> Dear Anton Hoger,
>> 
>> Have you ever considered learning to play from figured bass? This would save 
>> you much mundane work making these unnecessary transcriptions/arrangements.
>> 
>> MH
>> 
>> Ja natürlich! Aber was haben meine Renaissance Intabulations mit Dimunitions 
>> mit einem figured bass zu tun?
>> Das eine hat doch mit dem anderen nichts zu tun.
>> Ich habe bisher nur sehr wenig Frühbarocke Generalbassstücke bearbeitet. 
>> Ausserdem wären doch genau diese Ausarbeitungen für den Interpreten 
>> interessant. Als Anregung, Alternativen oder sogar als fertige Ausführun..
>> Meine 10 downloads und Tausend Danksagungen zeigen ein anderes Bild, als 
>> Dein  ...making these unnecessary transcriptions!!!
>> Bitte unterlasse doch diese Unverschämtheiten, wenn Du keine Ahnung hast.
>> 
>> Anton
>> 
>> Yes of course! But how do you bring my Renaissance Intabulations with 
>> Dimunitions in relation with a figured bass?
>> These one has nothing to do with the other one!
>> On the other side I have so far only very few Earlybaroque figured Bass 
>> edited pieces. Exactly this Arrangements may be interesting for the 
>> interprets. As a suggestion or such ways.
>> My 10 downloads and thousand credits show a different image than Your:  
>> ...making these unnecessary transcriptions!……...
>> Please stop these insinuations, if you have no idea.
>> 
>> 
>> Anton
> 
> 
> --
> 
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> http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: insinuations

[Dan Winheld]

-And I would like to add that Anton jumped right in with an incredibly 
generous, quick response when I needed  help finding lute/harp duets.


Thanks again, Anton! -I don't know how you keep up your intense production.

Dan

On 8/3/2016 7:10 AM, Helen Atkinson wrote:

I'm a fan of your work, Anton. Many thanks.
Helen

On 3 August 2016 at 14:49, Jean-Marie Poirier
<[1]jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr> wrote:

  I do agree completely too !
  Best and very well done indeed, Anton !
  Do keep up the good work !
  Jean-Marie Poirier
  --

>Anton
>
>let me say that I admire your work very much. Of course playing
ftom
>notation is always good to be able to do and something I have
taught to
>the few students I have had in 40 years, however one can usually
do
>that on one or two sets of tunings..playing in trios and quartets
with
>g, a, c , and d lutes become more tricky for the average guy.
your
>work is fantastic and allows players to be exposed to more than
just
>lute repertoire.   I will be retiring ftom my job in a few years
and
>intend on teaching lute to beginners . your material will be of
great
>use.
>
>one wish..set some medieval pieces   especially the trecento
stuff...
>
>regards
>
>Bruno Cognyl-Fournier
>
>Montreal
>
>Sent from Samsung Mobile
>
> Original message 
>
>From: Anton Hoeger
>
>Date:2016-08-03 03:24 (GMT-05:00)
>
>To: List Lutelist
>
>Subject: [LUTE] insinuations
>
>>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> Martin Hogson wrote:
>>
>> Dear Anton Hoger,
>>
>> Have you ever considered learning to play from figured bass?
This
>would save you much mundane work making these unnecessary
>transcriptions/arrangements.
>>
>> MH
>>
>> Ja natuerlich! Aber was haben meine Renaissance Intabulations
mit
>Dimunitions mit einem figured bass zu tun?
>> Das eine hat doch mit dem anderen nichts zu tun.
>> Ich habe bisher nur sehr wenig Fruehbarocke Generalbassstuecke
>bearbeitet. Ausserdem waeren doch genau diese Ausarbeitungen fuer
den
>Interpreten interessant. Als Anregung, Alternativen oder sogar als
>fertige Ausfuehrun..
>> Meine 10 downloads und Tausend Danksagungen zeigen ein
anderes
>Bild, als Dein   ...making these unnecessary transcriptions!!!
>> Bitte unterlasse doch diese Unverschaemtheiten, wenn Du keine
Ahnung
>hast.
>>
>> Anton
>>
>> Yes of course! But how do you bring my Renaissance Intabulations
with
>Dimunitions in relation with a figured bass?
>> These one has nothing to do with the other one!
>> On the other side I have so far only very few Earlybaroque
figured
>Bass edited pieces. Exactly this Arrangements may be interesting
for
>the interprets. As a suggestion or such ways.
>> My 10 downloads and thousand credits show a different image
than
>Your:   ...making these unnecessary transcriptions!.
>> Please stop these insinuations, if you have no idea.
>>
>>
>> Anton
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[LUTE] Re: insinuations

[Helen Atkinson]

   I'm a fan of your work, Anton. Many thanks.
   Helen

   On 3 August 2016 at 14:49, Jean-Marie Poirier
   <[1]jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr> wrote:

 I do agree completely too !
 Best and very well done indeed, Anton !
 Do keep up the good work !
 Jean-Marie Poirier
 --

   >Anton
   >
   >let me say that I admire your work very much. Of course playing
   ftom
   >notation is always good to be able to do and something I have
   taught to
   >the few students I have had in 40 years, however one can usually
   do
   >that on one or two sets of tunings..playing in trios and quartets
   with
   >g, a, c , and d lutes become more tricky for the average guy.
   your
   >work is fantastic and allows players to be exposed to more than
   just
   >lute repertoire.   I will be retiring ftom my job in a few years
   and
   >intend on teaching lute to beginners . your material will be of
   great
   >use.
   >
   >one wish..set some medieval pieces   especially the trecento
   stuff...
   >
   >regards
   >
   >Bruno Cognyl-Fournier
   >
   >Montreal
   >
   >Sent from Samsung Mobile
   >
   > Original message 
   >
   >From: Anton Hoeger
   >
   >Date:2016-08-03 03:24 (GMT-05:00)
   >
   >To: List Lutelist
   >
   >Subject: [LUTE] insinuations
   >
   >>
   >> Hi everyone,
   >>
   >> Martin Hogson wrote:
   >>
   >> Dear Anton Hoger,
   >>
   >> Have you ever considered learning to play from figured bass?
   This
   >would save you much mundane work making these unnecessary
   >transcriptions/arrangements.
   >>
   >> MH
   >>
   >> Ja natuerlich! Aber was haben meine Renaissance Intabulations
   mit
   >Dimunitions mit einem figured bass zu tun?
   >> Das eine hat doch mit dem anderen nichts zu tun.
   >> Ich habe bisher nur sehr wenig Fruehbarocke Generalbassstuecke
   >bearbeitet. Ausserdem waeren doch genau diese Ausarbeitungen fuer
   den
   >Interpreten interessant. Als Anregung, Alternativen oder sogar als
   >fertige Ausfuehrun..
   >> Meine 10 downloads und Tausend Danksagungen zeigen ein
   anderes
   >Bild, als Dein   ...making these unnecessary transcriptions!!!
   >> Bitte unterlasse doch diese Unverschaemtheiten, wenn Du keine
   Ahnung
   >hast.
   >>
   >> Anton
   >>
   >> Yes of course! But how do you bring my Renaissance Intabulations
   with
   >Dimunitions in relation with a figured bass?
   >> These one has nothing to do with the other one!
   >> On the other side I have so far only very few Earlybaroque
   figured
   >Bass edited pieces. Exactly this Arrangements may be interesting
   for
   >the interprets. As a suggestion or such ways.
   >> My 10 downloads and thousand credits show a different image
   than
   >Your:   ...making these unnecessary transcriptions!.
   >> Please stop these insinuations, if you have no idea.
   >>
   >>
   >> Anton
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[LUTE] Re: insinuations

[Jean-Marie Poirier]

I do agree completely too !

Best and very well done indeed, Anton ! 
Do keep up the good work !

Jean-Marie Poirier

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>   Anton
>
>   let me say that I admire your work very much. Of course playing ftom
>   notation is always good to be able to do and something I have taught to
>   the few students I have had in 40 years, however one can usually do
>   that on one or two sets of tunings..playing in trios and quartets with
>   g, a, c , and d lutes become more tricky for the average guy.   your
>   work is fantastic and allows players to be exposed to more than just
>   lute repertoire.  I will be retiring ftom my job in a few years and
>   intend on teaching lute to beginners . your material will be of great
>   use.
>
>   one wish..set some medieval pieces  especially the trecento stuff...
>
>   regards
>
>   Bruno Cognyl-Fournier
>
>   Montreal
>
>   Sent from Samsung Mobile
>
>    Original message 
>
>   From: Anton Hoeger
>
>   Date:2016-08-03 03:24 (GMT-05:00)
>
>   To: List Lutelist
>
>   Subject: [LUTE] insinuations
>
>   >
>   > Hi everyone,
>   >
>   > Martin Hogson wrote:
>   >
>   > Dear Anton Hoger,
>   >
>   > Have you ever considered learning to play from figured bass? This
>   would save you much mundane work making these unnecessary
>   transcriptions/arrangements.
>   >
>   > MH
>   >
>   > Ja natuerlich! Aber was haben meine Renaissance Intabulations mit
>   Dimunitions mit einem figured bass zu tun?
>   > Das eine hat doch mit dem anderen nichts zu tun.
>   > Ich habe bisher nur sehr wenig Fruehbarocke Generalbassstuecke
>   bearbeitet. Ausserdem waeren doch genau diese Ausarbeitungen fuer den
>   Interpreten interessant. Als Anregung, Alternativen oder sogar als
>   fertige Ausfuehrun..
>   > Meine 10 downloads und Tausend Danksagungen zeigen ein anderes
>   Bild, als Dein  ...making these unnecessary transcriptions!!!
>   > Bitte unterlasse doch diese Unverschaemtheiten, wenn Du keine Ahnung
>   hast.
>   >
>   > Anton
>   >
>   > Yes of course! But how do you bring my Renaissance Intabulations with
>   Dimunitions in relation with a figured bass?
>   > These one has nothing to do with the other one!
>   > On the other side I have so far only very few Earlybaroque figured
>   Bass edited pieces. Exactly this Arrangements may be interesting for
>   the interprets. As a suggestion or such ways.
>   > My 10 downloads and thousand credits show a different image than
>   Your:  ...making these unnecessary transcriptions!.
>   > Please stop these insinuations, if you have no idea.
>   >
>   >
>   > Anton
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[LUTE] Re: insinuations

[Max Langer]

   I don't see why he should stop if he like what he's doing. And there is
   a world of difference between "these unnecessary transcriptions" and "I
   think these transcriptions are unnecessary." just saying. Personally I
   will soon have my first opportunity to explore Anton's work.

   Cheers,
   Max

   On 3 Aug 2016 14:38, "jean-michel Catherinot"
   <[1]jeanmichel.catheri...@cs.dartmouth.edu> wrote:
   >
   >I agree Bruno...
   >Le Mercredi 3 aoA>>t 2016 13h25, Bruno Cognyl -Fournier
   ><[2]fournier...@gmail.com> a A(c)crit :
   >  Anton
   >  let me say that I admire your work very much. Of course playing
   ftom
   >  notation is always good to be able to do and something I have
   taught
   >to
   >  the few students I have had in 40 years, however one can usually
   do
   >  that on one or two sets of tunings..playing in trios and
   quartets
   >with
   >  g, a, c , and d lutes become more tricky for the average guy.
   your
   >  work is fantastic and allows players to be exposed to more than
   just
   >  lute repertoire.   I will be retiring ftom my job in a few years
   and
   >  intend on teaching lute to beginners . your material will be of
   great
   >  use.
   >  one wish..set some medieval pieces   especially the trecento
   stuff...
   >  regards
   >  Bruno Cognyl-Fournier
   >  Montreal
   >  Sent from Samsung Mobile
   >   Original message 
   >  From: Anton Hoeger
   >  Date:2016-08-03 03:24 (GMT-05:00)
   >  To: List Lutelist
   >  Subject: [LUTE] insinuations
   >  >
   >  > Hi everyone,
   >  >
   >  > Martin Hogson wrote:
   >  >
   >  > Dear Anton Hoger,
   >  >
   >  > Have you ever considered learning to play from figured bass?
   This
   >  would save you much mundane work making these unnecessary
   >  transcriptions/arrangements.
   >  >
   >  > MH
   >  >
   >  > Ja natuerlich! Aber was haben meine Renaissance Intabulations
   mit
   >  Dimunitions mit einem figured bass zu tun?
   >  > Das eine hat doch mit dem anderen nichts zu tun.
   >  > Ich habe bisher nur sehr wenig Fruehbarocke Generalbassstuecke
   >  bearbeitet. Ausserdem waeren doch genau diese Ausarbeitungen
   fuer den
   >  Interpreten interessant. Als Anregung, Alternativen oder sogar
   als
   >  fertige Ausfuehrun..
   >  > Meine 10 downloads und Tausend Danksagungen zeigen ein
   anderes
   >  Bild, als Dein   ...making these unnecessary transcriptions!!!
   >  > Bitte unterlasse doch diese Unverschaemtheiten, wenn Du keine
   >Ahnung
   >  hast.
   >  >
   >  > Anton
   >  >
   >  > Yes of course! But how do you bring my Renaissance
   Intabulations
   >with
   >  Dimunitions in relation with a figured bass?
   >  > These one has nothing to do with the other one!
   >  > On the other side I have so far only very few Earlybaroque
   figured
   >  Bass edited pieces. Exactly this Arrangements may be interesting
   for
   >  the interprets. As a suggestion or such ways.
   >  > My 10 downloads and thousand credits show a different
   image
   >than
   >  Your:   ...making these unnecessary transcriptions!.
   >  > Please stop these insinuations, if you have no idea.
   >  >
   >  >
   >  > Anton
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[LUTE] Re: insinuations

[jean-michel Catherinot]

   I agree Bruno...
   Le Mercredi 3 aoA>>t 2016 13h25, Bruno Cognyl -Fournier
    a A(c)crit :
 Anton
 let me say that I admire your work very much. Of course playing ftom
 notation is always good to be able to do and something I have taught
   to
 the few students I have had in 40 years, however one can usually do
 that on one or two sets of tunings..playing in trios and quartets
   with
 g, a, c , and d lutes become more tricky for the average guy.  your
 work is fantastic and allows players to be exposed to more than just
 lute repertoire.  I will be retiring ftom my job in a few years and
 intend on teaching lute to beginners . your material will be of great
 use.
 one wish..set some medieval pieces  especially the trecento stuff...
 regards
 Bruno Cognyl-Fournier
 Montreal
 Sent from Samsung Mobile
  Original message 
 From: Anton Hoeger
 Date:2016-08-03 03:24 (GMT-05:00)
 To: List Lutelist
 Subject: [LUTE] insinuations
 >
 > Hi everyone,
 >
 > Martin Hogson wrote:
 >
 > Dear Anton Hoger,
 >
 > Have you ever considered learning to play from figured bass? This
 would save you much mundane work making these unnecessary
 transcriptions/arrangements.
 >
 > MH
 >
 > Ja natuerlich! Aber was haben meine Renaissance Intabulations mit
 Dimunitions mit einem figured bass zu tun?
 > Das eine hat doch mit dem anderen nichts zu tun.
 > Ich habe bisher nur sehr wenig Fruehbarocke Generalbassstuecke
 bearbeitet. Ausserdem waeren doch genau diese Ausarbeitungen fuer den
 Interpreten interessant. Als Anregung, Alternativen oder sogar als
 fertige Ausfuehrun..
 > Meine 10 downloads und Tausend Danksagungen zeigen ein anderes
 Bild, als Dein  ...making these unnecessary transcriptions!!!
 > Bitte unterlasse doch diese Unverschaemtheiten, wenn Du keine
   Ahnung
 hast.
 >
 > Anton
 >
 > Yes of course! But how do you bring my Renaissance Intabulations
   with
 Dimunitions in relation with a figured bass?
 > These one has nothing to do with the other one!
 > On the other side I have so far only very few Earlybaroque figured
 Bass edited pieces. Exactly this Arrangements may be interesting for
 the interprets. As a suggestion or such ways.
 > My 10 downloads and thousand credits show a different image
   than
 Your:  ...making these unnecessary transcriptions!.
 > Please stop these insinuations, if you have no idea.
 >
 >
 > Anton
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[LUTE] Re: insinuations

[Bruno Cognyl -Fournier]

   Anton

   let me say that I admire your work very much. Of course playing ftom
   notation is always good to be able to do and something I have taught to
   the few students I have had in 40 years, however one can usually do
   that on one or two sets of tunings..playing in trios and quartets with
   g, a, c , and d lutes become more tricky for the average guy.   your
   work is fantastic and allows players to be exposed to more than just
   lute repertoire.  I will be retiring ftom my job in a few years and
   intend on teaching lute to beginners . your material will be of great
   use.

   one wish..set some medieval pieces  especially the trecento stuff...

   regards

   Bruno Cognyl-Fournier

   Montreal

   Sent from Samsung Mobile

    Original message 

   From: Anton Hoeger

   Date:2016-08-03 03:24 (GMT-05:00)

   To: List Lutelist

   Subject: [LUTE] insinuations

   >
   > Hi everyone,
   >
   > Martin Hogson wrote:
   >
   > Dear Anton Hoger,
   >
   > Have you ever considered learning to play from figured bass? This
   would save you much mundane work making these unnecessary
   transcriptions/arrangements.
   >
   > MH
   >
   > Ja natuerlich! Aber was haben meine Renaissance Intabulations mit
   Dimunitions mit einem figured bass zu tun?
   > Das eine hat doch mit dem anderen nichts zu tun.
   > Ich habe bisher nur sehr wenig Fruehbarocke Generalbassstuecke
   bearbeitet. Ausserdem waeren doch genau diese Ausarbeitungen fuer den
   Interpreten interessant. Als Anregung, Alternativen oder sogar als
   fertige Ausfuehrun..
   > Meine 10 downloads und Tausend Danksagungen zeigen ein anderes
   Bild, als Dein  ...making these unnecessary transcriptions!!!
   > Bitte unterlasse doch diese Unverschaemtheiten, wenn Du keine Ahnung
   hast.
   >
   > Anton
   >
   > Yes of course! But how do you bring my Renaissance Intabulations with
   Dimunitions in relation with a figured bass?
   > These one has nothing to do with the other one!
   > On the other side I have so far only very few Earlybaroque figured
   Bass edited pieces. Exactly this Arrangements may be interesting for
   the interprets. As a suggestion or such ways.
   > My 10 downloads and thousand credits show a different image than
   Your:  ...making these unnecessary transcriptions!.
   > Please stop these insinuations, if you have no idea.
   >
   >
   > Anton
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[LUTE] insinuations

[Anton Höger]

> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> Martin Hogson wrote:
> 
> Dear Anton Hoger,
> 
> Have you ever considered learning to play from figured bass? This would save 
> you much mundane work making these unnecessary transcriptions/arrangements.
> 
> MH
> 
> Ja natürlich! Aber was haben meine Renaissance Intabulations mit Dimunitions 
> mit einem figured bass zu tun?
> Das eine hat doch mit dem anderen nichts zu tun.
> Ich habe bisher nur sehr wenig Frühbarocke Generalbassstücke bearbeitet. 
> Ausserdem wären doch genau diese Ausarbeitungen für den Interpreten 
> interessant. Als Anregung, Alternativen oder sogar als fertige Ausführun..
> Meine 10 downloads und Tausend Danksagungen zeigen ein anderes Bild, als 
> Dein  ...making these unnecessary transcriptions!!!
> Bitte unterlasse doch diese Unverschämtheiten, wenn Du keine Ahnung hast.
> 
> Anton
> 
> Yes of course! But how do you bring my Renaissance Intabulations with 
> Dimunitions in relation with a figured bass?
> These one has nothing to do with the other one!
> On the other side I have so far only very few Earlybaroque figured Bass 
> edited pieces. Exactly this Arrangements may be interesting for the 
> interprets. As a suggestion or such ways.
> My 10 downloads and thousand credits show a different image than Your:  
> ...making these unnecessary transcriptions!……...
> Please stop these insinuations, if you have no idea.
> 
> 
> Anton


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