[LUTE] Revised edition of La Rhétorique des Dieux

[David Smith]

   Greetings,

   I have just finished and published a new version of Richard Civiol’s
   edition of La Rhétorique des Dieux. I have done a note by note
   comparison with the original facsimile and made corrections, provided
   English translations for all of the text, and included images from the
   original facsimile. Please let me know if you find any corrections
   required. I hope you find it useful.

   It can be found at [1]https://www.dolcesfogato.com/Music/ and the PDF
   is at
   [2]https://www.dolcesfogato.com/Music/Baroque_lute/La%20Rh%C3%A9torique
   %20des%20Dieux.pdf. The Fandango and other source material is at
   [3]https://www.dolcesfogato.com/Music/Baroque_lute/La%20Rh%C3%A9torique
   %20des%20Dieux%20Sources.zip.


   I am sending this to both lists since I do not know if the Dartmouth
   list is still live and if everyone has transferred.


   Regards

   David Smith

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References

   1. https://www.dolcesfogato.com/Music/
   2. https://www.dolcesfogato.com/Music/Baroque_lute/La Rhétorique des 
Dieux.pdf
   3. https://www.dolcesfogato.com/Music/Baroque_lute/La Rhétorique des Dieux 
Sources.zip


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[LUTE] David Buch contact

[David Smith]

   Does anyone know how to contact David J. Buch who wrote his
   dissertation on La Rhétorique des Dieux?

   I would like ask his permission to use his translation in something.

   Regards

   David

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[LUTE] Re: Rethorique des Dieux, English translation of preface?

[David Smith]

Acadamia.edu has a copy for free if you want. I sent a copy to David.

David

-Original Message-
From: lute-...@new-old-mail.cs.dartmouth.edu 
 On Behalf Of David van Ooijen
Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2020 10:25 PM
To: Lutelist 
Subject: [LUTE] Rethorique des Dieux, English translation of preface?

   Dear collected mind.

   Could someone direct me to such, if available?

   David

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[LUTE] Re: Rethorique des Dieux, English translation of preface?

[David Smith]

Proquest has it for $41 as a PDF. Pub ID 8315922.

David

-Original Message-
From: lute-...@new-old-mail.cs.dartmouth.edu 
 On Behalf Of Ron Andrico
Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2020 6:29 AM
To: David van Ooijen ; Lutelist 

Subject: [LUTE] Re: Rethorique des Dieux, English translation of preface?

   Dear David:

   Have you seen David J. Buch's dissertation, "Rhétorique des Dieux: A
   Critical Study of Text, Illustration, and Musical Style," Northwestern
   University, 1983?  I have it somewhere if you are unable to locate a
   copy.

   RA
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   From: lute-...@new-old-mail.cs.dartmouth.edu
on behalf of David van Ooijen
   
   Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2020 5:25 AM
   To: Lutelist 
   Subject: [LUTE] Rethorique des Dieux, English translation of preface?

  Dear collected mind.
  Could someone direct me to such, if available?
  David
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[LUTE] Re: My web site (long and probably tedious)

[David Smith]

This is where I have some disagreement. Having a purely personal effort is 
great but fragile. If there was an international Lute body then it would be 
great. There isn't.

So, who wants to take on the personal responsibility that Wayne has for all 
these years.

My experience from running a number of these is that the personal efforts tend 
to die when the person doing it looses interest. But, maybe this one will be 
different.

Anyway, it will be interesting to see where this goes.

David

-Original Message-
From: lute-...@new-old-mail.cs.dartmouth.edu 
 On Behalf Of Alain Veylit
Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2020 10:02 AM
Cc: 'lutelist Net' 
Subject: [LUTE] Re: My web site (long and probably tedious)

I totally agree with the below:

On 9/5/20 9:16 AM, Martyn Hodgson wrote:
>   6) Should the list/forum be maintained as a separate effort, or should
> it be rolled into the LSA, etc.?
>  - Being a  truly international list has been a great
> feature and strength of Wayne's system and ought to continue as such
> without necessarily being held by any one national society.body
> (e.g. sponsorship, personal vs. organizational liability, domain
> ownership/transferability,  futureproofing, and user 
> rules/guidelines)



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[LUTE] Re: My web site

[David Smith]

   Please do not take the suggestion about using Facebook to replace the
   lite lis seriously. It was just a question that was asked and no
   decision has been made to use it. I agree with all the comments about
   Facebook being inappropriate as a replacement. I run a number of
   non-profit sites that use Facebook, google groups, plus old fashioned
   websites. Each has a purpose and radically different styles of
   communication. Facebook is not a good mechanism for discussion,
   archive, and search. It is a capricious platform that is good for
   shouting out announcements and ideas - think of a box on a street
   corner with someone standing on it and shouting.
   Google groups might be a option but it does have some limits on number
   of members. Without knowing how many members are on this list it is
   difficult to assess the size requirement.
   Please bear with those working on a solution.
   David
   Get [1]Outlook for iOS
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   From: lute-...@new-old-mail.cs.dartmouth.edu
on behalf of
   ron.ba...@rwbanks.com 
   Sent: Friday, September 4, 2020 7:02:17 AM
   To: 'lutelist Net' 
   Subject: [LUTE] Re: My web site

   I agree wholeheartedly with Ralf, David, Francesco, Martyn, and Ron
   Andrico comments.  I'd  also like to thank Wayne for his many years of
   service, and  wish him a happy retirement.
   In addition to any privacy, security, and 3rd party monetization
   concerns, it's also important to remember that Facebook determines
   which messages/content are presented to each user.  As such,  not all
   members may have all messages presented to them.
   Even though mail lists are old technology, they can be a much more
   equal platform for members.
   Thanks,
   Ron Banks
   -Original Message-
   From: lute-...@new-old-mail.cs.dartmouth.edu
On Behalf Of Ralf Mattes
   Sent: Friday, September 4, 2020 8:31 AM
   To: ftribi...@gmail.com; 'lutelist Net' 
   Subject: [LUTE] Re: My web site
   On 04.09.20 15:19, ftribi...@gmail.com wrote:
   > First all many thanks to Wayne for his great work in these decades!
   +1 Same from here!
   > I totally agree about Facebook. It has nothing to do with the lute
   > list as we know it.
   +1000!
   > What about just a simple Google discussion group? It is very easy to
   > maintain, it is free and can keep all the past messages. Actually, it
   > can be configured as a moderated (if needed) mailing list, but in
   > addition it offers a web interface to browse conversations and old
   messages.
   Please, no. The difference between Facebook an Google in terms of data
   privacy are unfortunately pretty small (long gone are the times where
   Google where the good ones, sigh).
 Cheers,
  RalfD
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[LUTE] Re: The lute list is retiring soon

[David Smith]

   Hi Cathy,

   I agree that volunteers are key to making LSA work. Let me do some
   thinking and create an outline of what I think needs done. I will
   communicate with Wayne on it as well since it is all his legacy.


   Regards

   David


   From: LSA President 
   Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2020 1:52 PM
   To: David Smith 
   Cc: Nancy Carlin ; lute net
   
   Subject: Re: [LUTE] The lute list is retiring soon


   Hi David,


   We very much appreciate your interest, and your knowledge base. I
   second your conclusion that this should be taken up by the LSA as
   opposed to an individual. However, the LSA relies heavily on
   individuals who are willing and have the time to serve the wider lute
   community by applying a skill set they already have to needs the LSA
   has. If you are open to being involved in the LSA in this way, do stay
   in the conversation! This isn't a job description just yet. It's
   guidance we might need at the moment, I would think.


   Regards,

   Cathy


   Catherine Liddell
   President/Chairman of the Board

   [uc?id9TJhsqVKmGMNWhuR19WWXJYQU0export=download]

   [1]www.lutesocietyofamerica.org


   On Aug 23, 2020, at 12:12 PM, David Smith <[2]d...@dolcesfogato.com>
   wrote:


   Nancy,
   I want to strongly encourage the direction you are taking with LSA
   taking over responsibility for continuing Wayne's work. I run a number
   of sites for non-profits and have run [3]eda.org for the EDA industry
   (until we shut it down). It is really important for the work to be an
   organizations instead of an individual. That helps to ensure continuity
   and makes it easier to find.
   I have strongly considered offering to take over the mailing list, tab
   software archives, mailing archives, lutes for sale, etc... But, I have
   not done so since I did not want it to be an individual effort.
   Wayne, thank you so much for all that you have done. It has been of
   immense help over the years to so many people. A great testimony to
   your love and dedication to the lute and its community.
   Regards
   David Smith
   -Original Message-
   From: [4]lute-...@new-old-mail.cs.dartmouth.edu
   <[5]lute-...@new-old-mail.cs.dartmouth.edu> On Behalf Of Nancy Carlin
   Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2020 8:33 AM
   Cc: lute net <[6]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>; LSA President
   <[7]lutesocietyamericapresid...@gmail.com>
   Subject: [LUTE] Re: The lute list is retiring soon
   I think the LSA might be able to take over the lutes for sale and lute
   list from Wayne. I am checking with people now and hopefully we can get
   this organized ASAP.  We will have a new LSA website this fall - it has
   taken quite a while to get our site re-organized to make it more
   useful, The new site will include things like our Facsimiles Collection
   in a more easily searchable format, as well as archives of all old LSA
   publications.
   Nancy

I have been running this lute mail list since 1998, and it has
 been interesting and fun.  Now I am retiring from my job at
 Dartmouth
 College, and when I retire the computers that I have run will be
 shut
 down.  This includes the  mail servers that run the lute mail list.
 So it is time to retire from running the lute mail list too.  I will
 also be closing my lute web page, my lute tablature page, and "Lutes
 For Sale" web page.
If someone wants to take up running the lute mail list I suggest
 that they announce it on my list in the next month, while my list is
 still running.  My list runs using software that I wrote, and I
 don't
 recommend that someone else try to use it.  I don't know the last
 day
 yet, but I will make an announcement when my list actually closes.
 Wayne
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   Administrator THE LUTE SOCIETY OF AMERICA
   [9]http://LuteSocietyofAmerica.org
   PO Box 6499
   Concord, CA 94524
   USA
   925 / 686-5800
   [10]www.groundsanddivisions.info
   [11]www.nancycarlinassociates.com

References

   1. http://www.lutesocietyofamerica.org/
   2. mailto:d...@dolcesfogato.com
   3. http://eda.org/
   4. mailto:lute-...@new-old-mail.cs.dartmouth.edu
   5. mailto:lute-...@new-old-mail.cs.dartmouth.edu
   6. mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
   7. mailto:lutesocietyamericapresid...@gmail.com
   8. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
   9. http://lutesocietyofamerica.org/
  10. http://www.groundsanddivisions.info/
  11. http://www.nancycarlinassociates.com/

[LUTE] Re: The lute list is retiring soon

[David Smith]

Nancy,
I want to strongly encourage the direction you are taking with LSA taking over 
responsibility for continuing Wayne's work. I run a number of sites for 
non-profits and have run eda.org for the EDA industry (until we shut it down). 
It is really important for the work to be an organizations instead of an 
individual. That helps to ensure continuity and makes it easier to find.

I have strongly considered offering to take over the mailing list, tab software 
archives, mailing archives, lutes for sale, etc... But, I have not done so 
since I did not want it to be an individual effort.

Wayne, thank you so much for all that you have done. It has been of immense 
help over the years to so many people. A great testimony to your love and 
dedication to the lute and its community.

Regards
David Smith

-Original Message-
From: lute-...@new-old-mail.cs.dartmouth.edu 
 On Behalf Of Nancy Carlin
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2020 8:33 AM
Cc: lute net ; LSA President 

Subject: [LUTE] Re: The lute list is retiring soon

I think the LSA might be able to take over the lutes for sale and lute list 
from Wayne. I am checking with people now and hopefully we can get this 
organized ASAP.  We will have a new LSA website this fall - it has taken quite 
a while to get our site re-organized to make it more useful, The new site will 
include things like our Facsimiles Collection in a more easily searchable 
format, as well as archives of all old LSA publications.
Nancy
>
>>
>>    I have been running this lute mail list since 1998, and it has 
>> been interesting and fun.  Now I am retiring from my job at Dartmouth 
>> College, and when I retire the computers that I have run will be shut 
>> down.  This includes the  mail servers that run the lute mail list.
>> So it is time to retire from running the lute mail list too.  I will 
>> also be closing my lute web page, my lute tablature page, and "Lutes 
>> For Sale" web page.
>>
>>    If someone wants to take up running the lute mail list I suggest 
>> that they announce it on my list in the next month, while my list is 
>> still running.  My list runs using software that I wrote, and I don’t 
>> recommend that someone else try to use it.  I don’t know the last day 
>> yet, but I will make an announcement when my list actually closes.
>>
>>     Wayne
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> To get on or off this list see list information at 
>> http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
>


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Nancy Carlin
Administrator THE LUTE SOCIETY OF AMERICA http://LuteSocietyofAmerica.org

PO Box 6499
Concord, CA 94524
USA
925 / 686-5800

www.groundsanddivisions.info
www.nancycarlinassociates.com

[LUTE] Re: Ris: Re: fronimo under wine?

[David Smith]

Can we please stop the rant. Not everyone agrees that Gates is evil or that 
Windows is horrible. This is just becoming offensive.
David

-Original Message-
From: lute-...@new-old-mail.cs.dartmouth.edu 
 On Behalf Of Tristan von Neumann
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2020 2:16 PM
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Ris: Re: fronimo under wine?

   I don't blame Bill Gates for Windows, I blame him for his psychopathic
   delusions.

   Anyone who flew on Epstein's lolita express is a crook.

   That's why no money goes there from my side.

   But let's not go there, this isn't the forum.

   On 11.08.20 21:55, John Mardinly wrote:

   Tristan;

   Actually, Bill Gates DID sell most of his shares. He now owns 1% of
   Microsoft. The vast majority of the shares are owned by institutional
   investors such as pension funds, insurance companies ETF's, etc. Hell,
   I own Microsoft shares, but I don't use Windows…because it's horrible,
   which you can't even blame Gates for, anymore.

   A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E.

   On Aug 10, 2020, at 3:49 PM, Tristan von Neumann
   <[1]tristanvonneum...@gmx.de> wrote:

   � �Did he sell all his shares too?...
   � �As far as I know, he's still a major shareholder.
   � �So your argument is meaningless.
   � �On 10.08.20 23:24, John Mardinly wrote:
   � �Bill Gates turned the Microsoft CEO job over to Steve Balmer TWENTY
   � �years ago.
   � �A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E.
   � �On Aug 10, 2020, at 12:26 PM, Tristan von Neumann
   � �<[1][2]tristanvonneum...@gmx.de> wrote:
   � �I agree.
   � �Also, I wouldn't want to give anything to Mr. Gates.
   � �On 10.08.20 20:45, Frank A. Gerbode, M.D. wrote:
   � � � �I already have a setup like that. �I have a win10 machine
   running a
   � � � �virtual machine under hyper-v that is running ubuntu linux. Both
   � � � �work
   � � � �OK, but I would like to ditch windows altogether. Maybe that's
   � � � �silly,
   � � � �but on principle I would like to �be running open source as much
   as
   � � � �possible. Except for fronimo, of course.
   � � � �--Sarge
   � � � �On 8/10/2020 11:01, guy_and_liz Smith wrote:
   � � � �Back before I retired from the tech industry (2015), I used
   Vagrant
   � � � �with VirtualBox on a Linux computer to run various operating
   systems
   � � � �as virtual machines, mostly for development and testing purposes
   � � � �(Vagrant basically simplifies using VMs, including but not
   limited
   � � � �to
   � � � �VirtualBox). Strictly, you need a license to run Windows 10 in a
   � � � �virtual machine, although if you don't connect to the internet
   it
   � � � �will probably work OK. Never actually tried it, though. IIRC,
   you
   � � � �can
   � � � �get free Vagrant boxes to run earlier versions of Windows, which
   � � � �might be an option as long as Fronimo doesn't have Windows 10
   � � � �specific code.
   � � � �Guy
   � � � �-Original Message-
   � � � �From: [2][3]lute-...@new-old-mail.cs.dartmouth.edu
   � � � �[[3][4]mailto:lute-...@new-old-mail.cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf
   Of
   � � � �[4][5]lastrai...@interfree.it
   � � � �Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 10:23 AM
   � � � �To: Tristan von Neumann; [5][6]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
   � � � �Subject: [LUTE] Ris: Re: fronimo under wine?
   � � � � � � � �In my experience Fronimo cannot work "directly" on a
   Linux
   � � � �platform
   � � � � � � � �using Wine. But an alternative way to make it work is to
   install
   � � � �in
   � � � � � � � �your Linux a Virtual Machine that let you run Windows:
   first
   � � � �thing to
   � � � � � � � �do is creating a Windows Virtual Machine. Second step is
   to
   � � � �install and
   � � � � � � � �run FRONIMO as normal. This is not a 100%"pure" Linux
   solution
   � � � �but it
   � � � � � � � �works well, printing procedures etc. included. Hope this
   can
   � � � �help.
   � � � � � � � �Gian Luca Lastraioli
   � � � � � � � � Messaggio originale 
   � � � � � � � �Oggetto: [LUTE] Re: fronimo under wine?
   � � � � � � � �Da: Tristan von Neumann
   � � � � � � � �A: [6][7]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
   � � � � � � � �CC:
   � � � � � � � � � �I agree. I would buy Fronimo if it worked properly
   under
   � � � �Linux.
   � � � � � � � � � �I had trouble in the demo version. Printing to file
   didn't
   � � � �work
   � � � � � � � � � �(blank
   � � � � � � � � � �pages though the preview is visible. Is this
   deliberate?).
   � � � � � � � � � �That's sad because I have some fronimo files from
   the yahoo
   � � � �group I
   � � � � � � � � � �would have loved to print.
   � � � � � � � � � �Also I would love to contribute to Sarge's archive.
   � � � � � � � � � �On 10.08.20 17:54, Frank A. Gerbode, M.D. wrote:

 Many people that would like to run fronimo cannot do so

   � � � �because
   � � � � � � � � � �they

 are on a linux platform.Ã, �My website is hosted on a linux

   � � � � � � � � � �machine, all

 on the software I 

[LUTE] Re: Reconstructing Thibault MS

[David Smith]

It moved to a Google Group. And there is a link on it to a Google drive with 
all the files.
David

-Original Message-
From: lute-...@new-old-mail.cs.dartmouth.edu 
 On Behalf Of Frank A. Gerbode, M.D.
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2020 9:04 AM
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Reconstructing Thibault MS

Does anyone know who encoded Bernadino Balletti Intabolatura de Lauto (1554), 
which may have been in the old Yahoo group lute tab files? It's a little lute 
book I wanted to include on my site, but I would like to credit the person who 
did the work of encoding it.

And what happened to all the files that were in the old Yahoo group? 
They do not seem to all be included in the new Google group source.

Thanks!

--Sarge

--
Frank A. Gerbode, M.D. (sa...@gerbode.net)
11132 Dell Ave
Forestville, CA 95436-9491
Home phone:  707-820-1759
Website:  http://www.gerbode.net
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[LUTE] Re: Lute Tablature using Finale

[David Smith]

The question of copyright and right to use may still be an issue. You might 
want to check with the person that writes Fronimo to be sure.
David

-Original Message-
From: lute-...@new-old-mail.cs.dartmouth.edu 
 On Behalf Of Jurgen Frenz
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2020 9:34 AM
To: Mac User 
Cc: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Lute Tablature using Finale

from what I know there is no distinct font format for Windows. The fonts are 
for download in the file section of the Fronimo group, you can even you them in 
your text processor if you wish.
As explained elsewhere also by me the use of Fronimo on a Mac is without big 
problems. There are a few keyboard shortcuts that work differently but I don't 
remember.
Did you google on this list? It was discussed a number of times, as I said I 
explained in detail how I use it on a Mac.
Good luck!

Jurgen




‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
On Sunday, March 29, 2020 3:09 PM, Mac User  wrote:

> Fronimo’s fonts do look great, but . . .
>
> 1.  Wouldn’t I have to purchase Fronimo to obtain the fonts? Then I would 
> have a program I can’t install or use on my Mac.
> 2.  It is my understanding that Fronimo’s fonts are formatted for Windows and 
> don’t work on the Mac anyway.
> Is this correct?
>
> Craig
>
>
> > On Mar 28, 2020, at 3:02 PM, Fabio Rizza fabio_ri...@alice.it wrote:
> > Just use Fronimo's fonts on Finale.
> > Regards
> > Fabio
> > Il 25/03/2020 02:31, Mac User ha scritto:
> >
> > > Hi all! I’ve been using Finale as my primary music notation software for 
> > > many years. Recently, I’ve begun arranging Renaissance and early Baroque 
> > > music for a mixed lute trio (Tenor in G, Alto in A, Soprano in D), and 
> > > while Finale does a fabulous job notating, transposing, printing, etc., 
> > > the one complaint I’ve had (and have made it myself) is the look and 
> > > function of the font used for the letters when notating in the French 
> > > style. I’ve tried many fonts available on my computer; none seem 
> > > adequate. Specifically, the letters cover each other when two or more 
> > > notes appear at the same time. A friend recommended using Fronimo, but I 
> > > don’t believe that one works on a Mac, which I use exclusively. Does 
> > > anyone here have a recommendation?
> > > Craig Wiggins
> > > Durham, NC
> > > To get on or off this list see list information at 
> > > http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Double Top

[David Smith]

I have heard both sandwiched and double top used. The term double top is more 
common in the states.

David

-Original Message-
From: lute-...@new-old-mail.cs.dartmouth.edu 
 On Behalf Of Joachim Lüdtke
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 9:56 AM
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Double Top

Dear David, dear list,

I was a bit puzzled at first because I know the term double top, but only 
pointing to instruments like e.g. Marcard guitars with a second, 'interior' 
soundboard. What you describe is what I think is usually called a sandwiched 
soundboard. Is my terminology too limited or do I use it too strictly?

A few weeks ago, before the darn Corona guy rode into town, there were guitar 
days here in the Hochschule für Kunst und Musik in Bremen, and there were young 
builders showing their recently finished guitars, and one of the guitar 
teachers of the Hochschule playing a few measures on each of them. Most sounded 
excellent, and I am ashamed to say that I couldn't make much difference between 
the majority of the sounds, neither did I ask for prices …


Best from the Hanseatics

Joachim
-Original-Nachricht-
Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Double Top
Datum: 2020-03-25T17:44:36+0100
Von: "David Smith" 
An: "Tristan von Neumann" , "lute@cs.dartmouth.edu" 


That cost is what a master builder charges for classical guitars - 10k-20k is 
pretty normal. The cost of doing a double top is really not that high. The 
materials are not expensive and vacuum is used for a lot of other things in the 
shop. I use it for attaching bridges and holding instruments while French 
polishing. The Dammann price is based on his reputation and not on it being a 
double top. You should be able to find good quality double tops starting around 
3-4k.

As to using it on a lute, you have to like the sound of it because it is 
clearly not historical. I, personally, do not like the sound of double tops 
that much. They sacrifice character for volume, imho. But, if you are trying to 
fill a concert hall without a microphone then there are already a lot of 
sacrifices being made and the double top is just one more. For a more intimate 
setting I think it is overkill. The bracing from Trevor Gore (Falcate system - 
https://goreguitars.com.au/main/page_innovation_summary_falcate_bracing.html) 
is more interesting. It makes for a very even sound throughout the instrument 
and provides more volume as well. Would I use it on a lute. Not likely.

Anyway, some random thoughts.

David

-Original Message-
From: lute-...@new-old-mail.cs.dartmouth.edu 
 On Behalf Of Tristan von Neumann
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 9:18 AM
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Double Top

For that money, I'd buy a Lute consort...

I don't see any advantage...


On 25.03.20 11:40, Jurgen Frenz wrote:
> I read about the process to make such an instrument - from memory the two 
> slices are glued together under vacuum, to me it sounds like quite a costly 
> process. The guitars made by the inventor of this technology Matthias Dammann 
> cost 15 000 € a pop.
>
> Jürgne
>
>
>
>
> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
> On Wednesday, March 25, 2020 2:04 AM, Mark Probert  wrote:
>
>> John wrote:
>>
>>> Question is, has this been tried on a lute? Are there any luthiers 
>>> interested in trying?
>> Interesting technology. As applied to a lute? Not so sure.
>> I suspect someone will but most won't as there is not really any 
>> advantage and much disadvantage (the lamination process for starters, 
>> workin with nomex or similar, etc.).
>>
>> The problem this construction "fixes" is loudness. While there may be 
>> occassions when a lute is too soft, making up for it with an overly 
>> stiff soundboard would, I suspect, take away much of what makes a 
>> lute sound the way it does.
>>
>> Consider the following article for more
>>
>> https://www.guitarsalon.com/blog/?p=1467
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>> .. mark.
>>
>> To get on or off this list see list information at 
>> http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
>
>
>






[LUTE] Re: Double Top

[David Smith]

That cost is what a master builder charges for classical guitars - 10k-20k is 
pretty normal. The cost of doing a double top is really not that high. The 
materials are not expensive and vacuum is used for a lot of other things in the 
shop. I use it for attaching bridges and holding instruments while French 
polishing. The Dammann price is based on his reputation and not on it being a 
double top. You should be able to find good quality double tops starting around 
3-4k.

As to using it on a lute, you have to like the sound of it because it is 
clearly not historical. I, personally, do not like the sound of double tops 
that much. They sacrifice character for volume, imho. But, if you are trying to 
fill a concert hall without a microphone then there are already a lot of 
sacrifices being made and the double top is just one more. For a more intimate 
setting I think it is overkill. The bracing from Trevor Gore (Falcate system - 
https://goreguitars.com.au/main/page_innovation_summary_falcate_bracing.html) 
is more interesting. It makes for a very even sound throughout the instrument 
and provides more volume as well. Would I use it on a lute. Not likely.

Anyway, some random thoughts.

David

-Original Message-
From: lute-...@new-old-mail.cs.dartmouth.edu 
 On Behalf Of Tristan von Neumann
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 9:18 AM
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Double Top

For that money, I'd buy a Lute consort...

I don't see any advantage...


On 25.03.20 11:40, Jurgen Frenz wrote:
> I read about the process to make such an instrument - from memory the two 
> slices are glued together under vacuum, to me it sounds like quite a costly 
> process. The guitars made by the inventor of this technology Matthias Dammann 
> cost 15 000 € a pop.
>
> Jürgne
>
>
>
>
> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
> On Wednesday, March 25, 2020 2:04 AM, Mark Probert  wrote:
>
>> John wrote:
>>
>>> Question is, has this been tried on a lute? Are there any luthiers 
>>> interested in trying?
>> Interesting technology. As applied to a lute? Not so sure.
>> I suspect someone will but most won't as there is not really any 
>> advantage and much disadvantage (the lamination process for starters, 
>> workin with nomex or similar, etc.).
>>
>> The problem this construction "fixes" is loudness. While there may be 
>> occassions when a lute is too soft, making up for it with an overly 
>> stiff soundboard would, I suspect, take away much of what makes a 
>> lute sound the way it does.
>>
>> Consider the following article for more
>>
>> https://www.guitarsalon.com/blog/?p=1467
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>> .. mark.
>>
>> To get on or off this list see list information at 
>> http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
>
>
>

[LUTE] Re: Tuner for android

[David Smith]

   There was an update when an iOS version change killed it. I use it
   daily and find no problems.
   Get [1]Outlook for iOS
 __

   From: lute-...@new-old-mail.cs.dartmouth.edu
on behalf of Jurgen Frenz
   
   Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2020 12:57:27 PM
   To: Anthony Hart 
   Cc: utchug ; lute 
   Subject: [LUTE] Re: Tuner for android

   which update for Cleartune? There hasn't been an update in years from
   what I know. I find nothing to complain about it
   ___
   $B!>!>!>!>!>!>!>(B Original Message $B!>!>!>!>!>!>!>(B
   On Wednesday, January 29, 2020 7:25 PM, Anthony Hart
wrote:
   > Pitchlab pro doesn't appear on Google play
   > I have found other sources but my phone denies download.
   >
   > On Wed, 29 Jan 2020, 18:46 utchug, <[1]utc...@gmail.com> wrote:
   >
   > PitchLab Pro
   > Il giorno 29 gen 2020, alle ore 18:26, Anthony Hart
   > <[2]anthony.hart1...@gmail.com> ha scritto:
   >
   >Can anyone suggest a tuner app. I have used Cleartune on my
   iPad
   >  but
   >the reviews for the update are not good.
   >Thanks
   >Anthony
   >--
   >  To get on or off this list see list information at
   >  [3]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
   >
   >
   > --
   >
   > References
   >
   > 1.  [2]mailto:utc...@gmail.com
   > 2.  [3]mailto:anthony.hart1...@gmail.com
   > 3.  [4]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

   --

References

   1. https://aka.ms/o0ukef
   2. mailto:utc...@gmail.com
   3. mailto:anthony.hart1...@gmail.com
   4. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Android OS software

[David Smith]

I use annotations to finger music, make changes or corrections to the music. If 
the score is one that I have created using Sibelius, Fronimo, Finale, or 
Fandango, I can then do the changes I noted in forScore in the original, update 
the score in forScore, and then verify that I got all the changes (erasing the 
annotaitons as I go).

Since I do a lot of editing in score editors I find the ability for the score 
viewer to allow updates which preserve the annotations very helpful.

Anyway, just my two cents worth.

David

-Original Message-
From: lute-...@new-old-mail.cs.dartmouth.edu 
 On Behalf Of Sean Smith
Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2020 2:22 PM
To: lute 
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Android OS software

   Thanks, I'm not sure I want it to save every annotation, especially
   depending on how much I change the music text ... so I'm not sure how
   much of this feature I want or need. But it's useful to know how much
   is available to the user in this or that format.
   s

   On Sun, Jan 5, 2020 at 2:09 PM David Smith <[1]d...@dolcesfogato.com>
   wrote:

 The nice thing about forScore on an iPad is that the annotations are
 saved when a PDF is updated. Most PDF readers do not have this
 support. Unfortunately it only runs on an iPad.
 I would hope that MobileSheets does nothing like this as well.
 David
 -Original Message-
 From: [2]lute-...@new-old-mail.cs.dartmouth.edu
 <[3]lute-...@new-old-mail.cs.dartmouth.edu> On Behalf Of Sean Smith
 Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2020 1:56 PM
 To: lute <[4]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
 Subject: [LUTE] Re: Android OS software
Interesting thread.
I also bought a tablet (Surface 5) for tablet/tab/music stand. I
 chose
the Windows environment so I could read and edit Fronimo and have
 it
all contained in one box. Unfortunately I can't turn pages in
 Fronimo's
Print Preview with my home-made-foot-page turner so will invest
 in a
proper foot control. Realistically I don't expect that to change
 but
would appreciate a better thought out design than what I came up
 with
and hope for the best.[rant: why are they so pricey? They're
 just
wireless keyboards w/ two big buttons! :end rant]
But I can't add notes with a stylus until I print to PDF. Then
 those
notes are erased if I edit the original and "reprint" --but
 that's not
unlike a hard copy.
Danny, others using the Android: Are you reading from PDFs on
 your
tablets?
Sean
On Sun, Jan 5, 2020 at 12:40 PM tribioli
 <[1][5]tribi...@arcetri.astro.it>
wrote:
 I've got a reconditioned Surface 4 that I use with
 MobileSheet. I
  use
 it for singing so I wanted a light emitting device to cope
 with
  dark
 environments too, like some churches. E-ink devices are
 probably
  better
 when there is enough light
 Francesco
  Messaggio originale 
 Da: David van Ooijen <[2][6]davidvanooi...@gmail.com>
 Data: 05/01/20 21:31 (GMT+01:00)
 A: lutelist Net <[3][7]Lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
 Oggetto: [LUTE] Re: Android OS software
Thanks Dan, I saw that video too. Also saw the Gvido
 (double
  A4).
 Too
bad that one doesn't survive in the real life reviews.
 There's
  an
Italian company that makes A4 size e-ink readers you can
  connect
 into
double A4. Also tempting.
Let us know your experienceswith the Max3
David
***
David van Ooijen
[1][4][8]davidvanooi...@gmail.com
[2][5][9]https://davidvanooijen.wordpress.com
***
On Sun, 5 Jan 2020 at 21:17, Daniel Shoskes
 <[3][6][10]kidneykut...@gmail.com>
wrote:
I ended up getting the Boox Max 3

 [4][7][11]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6wgf4WWS3o=emb_lo
 go
Tutorial by a pianist for the Boox Max 2
[5][8][12]https://youtu.be/U2jBA3lVXWI
Happy to send you photos of how music looks on it (both
  computer
generated and scanned MS) if you are interested.Very
 clear.
  Surface
actually feels like paper. This version works with finger
  touch and
with a stylus. Pairs with bluetooth pedals for page
 turns.
Danny
On Jan 5, 2020, at 3:01 PM, David van Ooijen
<[6][9][13]davidvanooi...@gmail.com> wrote:
 

[LUTE] Re: Android OS software

[David Smith]

Just tried MobileSheets and I do not see that it allows for an update of a 
file. It either ignores it or creates a new song. This is one of the things I 
like about forScore so I guess I stick with forScore and iPad.
David

-Original Message-
From: lute-...@new-old-mail.cs.dartmouth.edu 
 On Behalf Of David Smith
Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2020 2:09 PM
To: Sean Smith ; lute 
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Android OS software

The nice thing about forScore on an iPad is that the annotations are saved when 
a PDF is updated. Most PDF readers do not have this support. Unfortunately it 
only runs on an iPad.
I would hope that MobileSheets does nothing like this as well.

David


-Original Message-
From: lute-...@new-old-mail.cs.dartmouth.edu 
 On Behalf Of Sean Smith
Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2020 1:56 PM
To: lute 
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Android OS software

   Interesting thread.
   I also bought a tablet (Surface 5) for tablet/tab/music stand. I chose
   the Windows environment so I could read and edit Fronimo and have it
   all contained in one box. Unfortunately I can't turn pages in Fronimo's
   Print Preview with my home-made-foot-page turner so will invest in a
   proper foot control. Realistically I don't expect that to change but
   would appreciate a better thought out design than what I came up with
   and hope for the best.   [rant: why are they so pricey? They're just
   wireless keyboards w/ two big buttons! :end rant]
   But I can't add notes with a stylus until I print to PDF. Then those
   notes are erased if I edit the original and "reprint" --but that's not
   unlike a hard copy.
   Danny, others using the Android: Are you reading from PDFs on your
   tablets?
   Sean

   On Sun, Jan 5, 2020 at 12:40 PM tribioli <[1]tribi...@arcetri.astro.it>
   wrote:

I've got a reconditioned Surface 4 that I use with MobileSheet. I
 use
it for singing so I wanted a light emitting device to cope with
 dark
environments too, like some churches. E-ink devices are probably
 better
when there is enough light
Francesco
 Messaggio originale 
Da: David van Ooijen <[2]davidvanooi...@gmail.com>
Data: 05/01/20 21:31 (GMT+01:00)
A: lutelist Net <[3]Lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
Oggetto: [LUTE] Re: Android OS software
   Thanks Dan, I saw that video too. Also saw the Gvido (double
 A4).
Too
   bad that one doesn't survive in the real life reviews. There's
 an
   Italian company that makes A4 size e-ink readers you can
 connect
into
   double A4. Also tempting.
   Let us know your experiences   with the Max3
   David
   ***
   David van Ooijen
   [1][4]davidvanooi...@gmail.com
   [2][5]https://davidvanooijen.wordpress.com
   ***
   On Sun, 5 Jan 2020 at 21:17, Daniel Shoskes
<[3][6]kidneykut...@gmail.com>
   wrote:
   I ended up getting the Boox Max 3

 [4][7]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6wgf4WWS3o=emb_logo
   Tutorial by a pianist for the Boox Max 2
   [5][8]https://youtu.be/U2jBA3lVXWI
   Happy to send you photos of how music looks on it (both
 computer
   generated and scanned MS) if you are interested.Very clear.
 Surface
   actually feels like paper. This version works with finger
 touch and
   with a stylus. Pairs with bluetooth pedals for page turns.
   Danny
   On Jan 5, 2020, at 3:01 PM, David van Ooijen
   <[6][9]davidvanooi...@gmail.com> wrote:
  Hi Dan
  Can we ask what device you have? I've been looking at e-ink
 sheet
   music
  readers lately, but I couldn't make my mind up.
  David
  ***
  David van Ooijen
  [1][7][10]davidvanooi...@gmail.com
  [2][8][11]https://davidvanooijen.wordpress.com
  ***
  On Sun, 5 Jan 2020 at 20:56, Daniel Shoskes
   <[3][9][12]kidneykut...@gmail.com>
  wrote:
  This is the year I've committed to reducing paper
 clutter
   throughout
  the house so I've finally bought a dedicated tablet for
 music
  storage and performance. I got a 13.3 inch E ink
 display
which
   is
  friendly to my aging eyes and can fit a lot of music on
 1
page.
   It
  is however the first device I have owned that runs
 Android
(9.0)
  rather than iOS. Settled on MobileSheetsPro for sheet
 music
  management which has a dedicated E 

[LUTE] Re: Android OS software

[David Smith]

The nice thing about forScore on an iPad is that the annotations are saved when 
a PDF is updated. Most PDF readers do not have this support. Unfortunately it 
only runs on an iPad.
I would hope that MobileSheets does nothing like this as well.

David


-Original Message-
From: lute-...@new-old-mail.cs.dartmouth.edu 
 On Behalf Of Sean Smith
Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2020 1:56 PM
To: lute 
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Android OS software

   Interesting thread.
   I also bought a tablet (Surface 5) for tablet/tab/music stand. I chose
   the Windows environment so I could read and edit Fronimo and have it
   all contained in one box. Unfortunately I can't turn pages in Fronimo's
   Print Preview with my home-made-foot-page turner so will invest in a
   proper foot control. Realistically I don't expect that to change but
   would appreciate a better thought out design than what I came up with
   and hope for the best.   [rant: why are they so pricey? They're just
   wireless keyboards w/ two big buttons! :end rant]
   But I can't add notes with a stylus until I print to PDF. Then those
   notes are erased if I edit the original and "reprint" --but that's not
   unlike a hard copy.
   Danny, others using the Android: Are you reading from PDFs on your
   tablets?
   Sean

   On Sun, Jan 5, 2020 at 12:40 PM tribioli <[1]tribi...@arcetri.astro.it>
   wrote:

I've got a reconditioned Surface 4 that I use with MobileSheet. I
 use
it for singing so I wanted a light emitting device to cope with
 dark
environments too, like some churches. E-ink devices are probably
 better
when there is enough light
Francesco
 Messaggio originale 
Da: David van Ooijen <[2]davidvanooi...@gmail.com>
Data: 05/01/20 21:31 (GMT+01:00)
A: lutelist Net <[3]Lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
Oggetto: [LUTE] Re: Android OS software
   Thanks Dan, I saw that video too. Also saw the Gvido (double
 A4).
Too
   bad that one doesn't survive in the real life reviews. There's
 an
   Italian company that makes A4 size e-ink readers you can
 connect
into
   double A4. Also tempting.
   Let us know your experiences   with the Max3
   David
   ***
   David van Ooijen
   [1][4]davidvanooi...@gmail.com
   [2][5]https://davidvanooijen.wordpress.com
   ***
   On Sun, 5 Jan 2020 at 21:17, Daniel Shoskes
<[3][6]kidneykut...@gmail.com>
   wrote:
   I ended up getting the Boox Max 3

 [4][7]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6wgf4WWS3o=emb_logo
   Tutorial by a pianist for the Boox Max 2
   [5][8]https://youtu.be/U2jBA3lVXWI
   Happy to send you photos of how music looks on it (both
 computer
   generated and scanned MS) if you are interested.Very clear.
 Surface
   actually feels like paper. This version works with finger
 touch and
   with a stylus. Pairs with bluetooth pedals for page turns.
   Danny
   On Jan 5, 2020, at 3:01 PM, David van Ooijen
   <[6][9]davidvanooi...@gmail.com> wrote:
  Hi Dan
  Can we ask what device you have? I've been looking at e-ink
 sheet
   music
  readers lately, but I couldn't make my mind up.
  David
  ***
  David van Ooijen
  [1][7][10]davidvanooi...@gmail.com
  [2][8][11]https://davidvanooijen.wordpress.com
  ***
  On Sun, 5 Jan 2020 at 20:56, Daniel Shoskes
   <[3][9][12]kidneykut...@gmail.com>
  wrote:
  This is the year I've committed to reducing paper
 clutter
   throughout
  the house so I've finally bought a dedicated tablet for
 music
  storage and performance. I got a 13.3 inch E ink
 display
which
   is
  friendly to my aging eyes and can fit a lot of music on
 1
page.
   It
  is however the first device I have owned that runs
 Android
(9.0)
  rather than iOS. Settled on MobileSheetsPro for sheet
 music
  management which has a dedicated E ink version (but no
 Mac or
   iOS
  equivalent).
  Would be interested to hear from anyone who uses
 Android
   software
  for lute music purposes on a tablet. Any valuable
 programs
out
  there?
  Thanks
  Danny
  To get on or off this list see list information at

 

[LUTE] Re: conserto vago

[David Smith]

I just downloaded the images from the site. They are maybe a little better than 
IMSLP since IMSLP appears to have compressed the file - not sure it is enough 
to matter.
If you want I copy I can send it to you Lex.

Regards
David

-Original Message-
From: lute-...@new-old-mail.cs.dartmouth.edu 
 On Behalf Of Rainer
Sent: Wednesday, January 1, 2020 4:52 AM
To: lute mailing list list 
Subject: [LUTE] Re: conserto vago

Not really good, but better than imslp(?)

http://www.bibliotecamusica.it/cmbm/viewschedatwbca.asp?path=/cmbm/images/ripro/gaspari/_V/V156/

Happy new year,

Rainer

Am 01.01.2020 um 13:39 schrieb Lex van Sante:
> Dear collective wisdom,
> 
> I am trying to decipher the avvertimenti belonging to the Conserto Vago, Roma 
> 1645 but my copy found on IMSLP is very hard to read. Does anyone have, or 
> know of, a good quality copy or a link I can use? I have investigated the 
> site of the biblioteca della musica di Bologna where the original is kept but 
> they do not seem to have a copy service available.
> 
> Cheers and all the best for 2020!
> 
> Lex van Sante
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --
> 
> To get on or off this list see list information at 
> http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
> 

[LUTE] Re: mirror site

[David Smith]

I would be.
David

Sent from my iPad

> On Oct 15, 2019, at 2:04 PM, Frank A. Gerbode, M.D.  wrote:
> 
>    Hi, all.
>   Is anyone interested in hosting a mirror site for my website?  Although
>   I have the data backed up locally, I would like to make sure that the
>   data remains intact in case of a catastrophe, or my demise.
>   The advantage of having a mirror site is that you have local access to
>   all the files without having to download anything. Another advantage is
>   that your site will be updated automatically whenever I update mine, so
>   you data will always be up to date. A disadvantage is that it takes up
>   space -- 6.6 GB at present, including facsimiles; a little over ½  a GB
>   without the facsimiles. It's nice to have the facsimiles locally,
>   though, so you can refer to them.  I have the pages laid out as
>   individual files, the file name being the page or folio number, so it's
>   very easy to find particular pages without having to search through a
>   PDF.
>   The site is currently being mirrored in the [1]Russian website, but I
>   cannot do the automatic update with this site, so it doesn't have the
>   latest and greatest.
>   Any takers?
>   --Sarge
> --
> Frank A. Gerbode, M.D. ([2]sa...@gerbode.net)
> 11132 Dell Ave
> Forestville, CA 95436-9491
> Home phone:  707-820-1759
> Website:  [3]http://www.gerbode.net
> "The map may not be the territory, but it's all we've got."
> 
>   --
> 
> References
> 
>   1. http://www.lute.ru/gerbode
>   2. mailto:sa...@gerbode.net
>   3. http://www.gerbode.net/
> 
> 
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[LUTE] Re: string suppliers in the USA

[David Smith]

Aquilausa stocks nylgut and ships from Portland Oregon. Definitely in the us.

Sent from my iPad

> On Sep 23, 2019, at 10:31 AM, Martin Shepherd  wrote:
> 
> Thanks to all who responded - as I live in France, I was asking on someone 
> else's behalf, hoping that (particularly in the case of nylgut) that there 
> might be someone who stocks these strings in the US and therefore avoiding 
> the postal costs of importing from Europe.  It looks as though Cuerdas 
> pulsadas is the best online source, and anyone in the US will just have to 
> pay the postal charges...
> 
> M
> 
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[LUTE] Re: string suppliers in the USA

[David Smith]

AquilaUSA distributes from Portland Oregon. Gamut strings does gut from 
Minnesota.
There are others.
David

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 23, 2019, at 8:35 AM, Martin Shepherd  wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> If you live in the US, can you tell me where you buy strings (nylgut, nylon, 
> gut, etc) in the US?
> 
> Aquilausa seems to be just a link to the producer, but I'd be glad to be 
> corrected.  I'm looking for an easy-to-use online shop.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Martin
> 
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[LUTE] Re: how about changing the subject too!

[David Smith]

And again, the issue of which thread is which
I agree that, when creating a new discussion, it should have a new topic. But, 
replying to a discussion that is underway requires keeping the same topic so 
that the thread makes sense...even if the content of the thread no longer 
matches the topic.

Isn't email etiquette fun...

David

-Original Message-
From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu  On Behalf Of Wayne
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 9:52 AM
To: lute net 
Subject: [LUTE] how about changing the subject too!

While we are ranting about whether to crop or not, how about paying attention 
to, and changing, the Subject !!
Ed changed the topic from Bream to long messages, but didn’t change the subject 
line.  Leonard tried desperately to change the Subject: line but David quickly 
brought it back to what was no longer being discussed.

I am sure Julian Bream, being very attentive to detail, would change the 
Subject: line *and* edit his replies!

 Wayne




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[LUTE] Re: Julian Bream on Lute

[David Smith]

One reason, perhaps, that it has not changed is that some of us do not agree 
with the idea of removing all context of an email message. I get a lot of 
emails that have just the response and I have no clue what they are talking 
about. A bot to do this would be horrible since it would remove the possibility 
of seeing the information.

Now, if every email had a link to the thread in the email archive that the 
email was part of, then removing context would be fine - I could easily go to 
the context in the archive.

A contrarian view. By the way, I spent the last 50 years in the high-tech 
industry, have been on and led many standards bodies, currently must deal with 
a couple of hundred email messages a day (on just the one out of 5 email 
accounts I have), and sympathize with the large amount of content to wade 
through. But, context is so important that I am willing to deal with having 
more, rather than less, information in an email.

Regards
David Smith

-Original Message-
From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu  On Behalf Of G. C.
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 2:16 AM
To: LuteNet list 
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Julian Bream on Lute

 Ha-ha-ha LOL That was indeed funny Dan!

   But seriously, sending mails to the list, that just accumulate obsolete
   text is just as irritating as sending multiple mails or html format,
   and IMO just plain laziness. It uses up space, makes it, as Leonard
   says, hard to see the message, and probably qualifies as netiquette
   breach big style. But this matter has been voiced many, many times, and
   to no avail, sadly. I often wonder, why this problem cannot be dealt
   with automatically by setting up the mail robot?
   Best wishes
   G.

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[LUTE] Re: Reymann

[David Smith]

I have created a PDF of Douglas Towne's edition from the Fronimo archive and 
posted it at http://www.dolcesfogato.com/Music/.
I hope it is useful.

David

-Original Message-
From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu  On Behalf Of Jurgen 
Frenz
Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2019 1:24 AM
To: Mathias Rösel 
Cc: Lutelist 
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Reymann

There is a "modern" edition on the Fronimo user group archive, I guess it is 
accessible to Fronimo users only. It was made in 1999, the "readme" doesn't 
identify the author. My guess is Göran Krona or Jason Curtis.


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‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
On Thursday, May 2, 2019 1:25 PM, Mathias Rösel  
wrote:

> Not easy to read, c and e almost undiscernible at many places.
> Digitalised copies would be great help.
> There must be facsimile files of Reymann online somewhere, though, 
> because I've g got one.
> Mathias
> __
>
> Gesendet mit der [1]Telekom Mail App
> --- Original-Nachricht ---
> Von: Susan Price
> Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Reymann
> Datum: 02.05.2019, 4:23 Uhr
> An: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
>
> I see that OMI has a nice facsimile of Reymann for $111.00. Should I 
> purchase?
> Susan
>  Original message 
> From: Dan Winheld <[2]dwinh...@lmi.net>
> Date: 5/1/19 7:27 PM (GMT-07:00)
> To: magnus andersson <[3]maan7...@yahoo.com>, Tristan von Neumann 
> <[4]tristanvonneum...@gmx.de>, [5]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
> Subject: [LUTE] Re: Reymann
> Congratulations Tristan and Magnus- you have gotten me interested in 
> getting Reymann's "Noctes"; unfortunately my eyesight has degraded to 
> the point where I can no longer read facsimiles. Are there any modern 
> typeset editions? (Any tab system or pitch notation- just has to be 
> legible to ancient eyes) Thanks for any leads- Dan On 4/26/2019 10:19 
> PM, magnus andersson wrote:
>
> > Dear Tristan,
>
> >
>
> > I have played some Reymann in concert. His Noctes collection is
>
> indeed
>
> > one of the finest collections of lute music that's come down to
>
> us.
>
> >
>
> > His galliardas are among the the most virtuouso pieces in the
>
> whole
>
> > repertoire.
>
> >
>
> > He must have been a very accomplished musician!
>
> >
>
> > I hope to record some of his music in the future. His Cythara
>
> sacra is
>
> > a great pendant to Noctes. Much more meditative and less
>
> technically
>
> > demanding.
>
> >
>
> > Best,
>
> >
>
> > Magnus
>
> > [1]Skickat fr��������n Yahoo Mail
>
> f��������r iPhone
>
> >
>
> > Den fredag, april 26, 2019, 10:29 em, skrev Tristan von Neumann
>
> > <[6]tristanvonneum...@gmx.de>:
>
> >
>
> > Just got my hands on Noctes Musicae 1598 by Matthaeus Reymann.
>
> >
>
> > Has anyone played it?
>
> >
>
> > I am amazed that there is absolutely no recording of this amazing
>
> very
>
> >
>
> > original music.
>
> >
>
> > The collection has huge choral and other fantasies with lots of
>
> great
>
> >
>
> > ideas, and especially pavans that rival the fantastic treatment
>
> of
>
> >
>
> > Daniel Batchelar's - these aren't dances anymore, but fantasies
>
> ordered
>
> >
>
> > by the pavan model.
>
> >
>
> > The best thing: the difficulty is not that high compared to the
>
> effect:
>
> >
>
> > the fingering is very logical and doesn't distract from the
>
> beauty of
>
> >
>
> > the pieces.
>
> >
>
> > Huge recommendation.
>
> >
>
> > To get on or off this list see list information at
>
> >
>
> > [2][7]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
>
> >
>
> > --
>
> >
>
> > References
>
> >
>
> > 1.  [8]https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/?.src=iOS
>
> > 2.  [9]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
>
> >
>
> >
>
> --
>
> References
>
> 1.  
> https://kommunikationsdienste.t-online.de/redirects/email_app_android_
> sendmail_footer
> 2.  mailto:dwinh...@lmi.net
> 3.  mailto:maan7...@yahoo.com
> 4.  mailto:tristanvonneum...@gmx.de
> 5.  mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
> 6.  mailto:tristanvonneum...@gmx.de
> 7.  http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
> 8.  https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/?.src=iOS
> 9.  http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Reymann

[David Smith]

Thanks. I will go ahead and generate it then.
David

-Original Message-
From: Edward Martin  
Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2019 1:32 PM
To: David Smith 
Cc: Jurgen Frenz ; Mathias Rösel 
; Lutelist 
Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Reymann

Since Doug posted this set of pieces on the Fronimo file site, he is sharing it 
for anyone to use. He is very generous.;  so yes, it is certainly shareable. 

Ed

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 2, 2019, at 3:25 PM, David Smith  wrote:
> 
> The post says it is Doug Towne. It was posted in Mar. 16 2003. The fromimo 
> directory contains 74 pieces plus text document describing the pieces.
> I do not know how to get in touch with Doug Towne so am not sure if it is 
> shareable.
> If anyone know I would be happy to convert all of the files to PDF and create 
> a single PDF file with all pieces and the introductory text.
> 
> Regards
> David Smith
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu  On Behalf 
> Of Jurgen Frenz
> Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2019 1:24 AM
> To: Mathias Rösel 
> Cc: Lutelist 
> Subject: [LUTE] Re: Reymann
> 
> There is a "modern" edition on the Fronimo user group archive, I guess it is 
> accessible to Fronimo users only. It was made in 1999, the "readme" doesn't 
> identify the author. My guess is Göran Krona or Jason Curtis.
> 
> 
> --
> “Close your eyes. Fall in love. Stay there.”
> 
> Jalāl ad-Dīn Muhammad Rumi
> 
> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
>> On Thursday, May 2, 2019 1:25 PM, Mathias Rösel  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Not easy to read, c and e almost undiscernible at many places.
>> Digitalised copies would be great help.
>> There must be facsimile files of Reymann online somewhere, though, 
>> because I've g got one.
>> Mathias
>> __
>> 
>> Gesendet mit der [1]Telekom Mail App
>> --- Original-Nachricht ---
>> Von: Susan Price
>> Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Reymann
>> Datum: 02.05.2019, 4:23 Uhr
>> An: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
>> 
>> I see that OMI has a nice facsimile of Reymann for $111.00. Should I 
>> purchase?
>> Susan
>>  Original message 
>> From: Dan Winheld <[2]dwinh...@lmi.net>
>> Date: 5/1/19 7:27 PM (GMT-07:00)
>> To: magnus andersson <[3]maan7...@yahoo.com>, Tristan von Neumann 
>> <[4]tristanvonneum...@gmx.de>, [5]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
>> Subject: [LUTE] Re: Reymann
>> Congratulations Tristan and Magnus- you have gotten me interested in 
>> getting Reymann's "Noctes"; unfortunately my eyesight has degraded to 
>> the point where I can no longer read facsimiles. Are there any modern 
>> typeset editions? (Any tab system or pitch notation- just has to be 
>> legible to ancient eyes) Thanks for any leads- Dan On 4/26/2019 10:19 
>> PM, magnus andersson wrote:
>> 
>>> Dear Tristan,
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> I have played some Reymann in concert. His Noctes collection is
>> 
>> indeed
>> 
>>> one of the finest collections of lute music that's come down to
>> 
>> us.
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> His galliardas are among the the most virtuouso pieces in the
>> 
>> whole
>> 
>>> repertoire.
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> He must have been a very accomplished musician!
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> I hope to record some of his music in the future. His Cythara
>> 
>> sacra is
>> 
>>> a great pendant to Noctes. Much more meditative and less
>> 
>> technically
>> 
>>> demanding.
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> Best,
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> Magnus
>> 
>>> [1]Skickat fr��������n Yahoo Mail
>> 
>> f��������r iPhone
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> Den fredag, april 26, 2019, 10:29 em, skrev Tristan von Neumann
>> 
>>> <[6]tristanvonneum...@gmx.de>:
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> Just got my hands on Noctes Musicae 1598 by Matthaeus Reymann.
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> Has anyone played it?
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> I am amazed that there is absolutely no recording of this amazing
>> 
>> very
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> original music.
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> The collection has huge choral and other fantasies with lots of
>> 
>> great
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> ideas, and especially pavans that rival the fantastic treatment
>> 
>>

[LUTE] Re: Reymann

[David Smith]

The post says it is Doug Towne. It was posted in Mar. 16 2003. The fromimo 
directory contains 74 pieces plus text document describing the pieces.
I do not know how to get in touch with Doug Towne so am not sure if it is 
shareable.
If anyone know I would be happy to convert all of the files to PDF and create a 
single PDF file with all pieces and the introductory text.

Regards
David Smith

-Original Message-
From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu  On Behalf Of Jurgen 
Frenz
Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2019 1:24 AM
To: Mathias Rösel 
Cc: Lutelist 
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Reymann

There is a "modern" edition on the Fronimo user group archive, I guess it is 
accessible to Fronimo users only. It was made in 1999, the "readme" doesn't 
identify the author. My guess is Göran Krona or Jason Curtis.


--
“Close your eyes. Fall in love. Stay there.”

Jalāl ad-Dīn Muhammad Rumi

‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
On Thursday, May 2, 2019 1:25 PM, Mathias Rösel  
wrote:

> Not easy to read, c and e almost undiscernible at many places.
> Digitalised copies would be great help.
> There must be facsimile files of Reymann online somewhere, though, 
> because I've g got one.
> Mathias
> __
>
> Gesendet mit der [1]Telekom Mail App
> --- Original-Nachricht ---
> Von: Susan Price
> Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Reymann
> Datum: 02.05.2019, 4:23 Uhr
> An: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
>
> I see that OMI has a nice facsimile of Reymann for $111.00. Should I 
> purchase?
> Susan
>  Original message 
> From: Dan Winheld <[2]dwinh...@lmi.net>
> Date: 5/1/19 7:27 PM (GMT-07:00)
> To: magnus andersson <[3]maan7...@yahoo.com>, Tristan von Neumann 
> <[4]tristanvonneum...@gmx.de>, [5]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
> Subject: [LUTE] Re: Reymann
> Congratulations Tristan and Magnus- you have gotten me interested in 
> getting Reymann's "Noctes"; unfortunately my eyesight has degraded to 
> the point where I can no longer read facsimiles. Are there any modern 
> typeset editions? (Any tab system or pitch notation- just has to be 
> legible to ancient eyes) Thanks for any leads- Dan On 4/26/2019 10:19 
> PM, magnus andersson wrote:
>
> > Dear Tristan,
>
> >
>
> > I have played some Reymann in concert. His Noctes collection is
>
> indeed
>
> > one of the finest collections of lute music that's come down to
>
> us.
>
> >
>
> > His galliardas are among the the most virtuouso pieces in the
>
> whole
>
> > repertoire.
>
> >
>
> > He must have been a very accomplished musician!
>
> >
>
> > I hope to record some of his music in the future. His Cythara
>
> sacra is
>
> > a great pendant to Noctes. Much more meditative and less
>
> technically
>
> > demanding.
>
> >
>
> > Best,
>
> >
>
> > Magnus
>
> > [1]Skickat fr��������n Yahoo Mail
>
> f��������r iPhone
>
> >
>
> > Den fredag, april 26, 2019, 10:29 em, skrev Tristan von Neumann
>
> > <[6]tristanvonneum...@gmx.de>:
>
> >
>
> > Just got my hands on Noctes Musicae 1598 by Matthaeus Reymann.
>
> >
>
> > Has anyone played it?
>
> >
>
> > I am amazed that there is absolutely no recording of this amazing
>
> very
>
> >
>
> > original music.
>
> >
>
> > The collection has huge choral and other fantasies with lots of
>
> great
>
> >
>
> > ideas, and especially pavans that rival the fantastic treatment
>
> of
>
> >
>
> > Daniel Batchelar's - these aren't dances anymore, but fantasies
>
> ordered
>
> >
>
> > by the pavan model.
>
> >
>
> > The best thing: the difficulty is not that high compared to the
>
> effect:
>
> >
>
> > the fingering is very logical and doesn't distract from the
>
> beauty of
>
> >
>
> > the pieces.
>
> >
>
> > Huge recommendation.
>
> >
>
> > To get on or off this list see list information at
>
> >
>
> > [2][7]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
>
> >
>
> > --
>
> >
>
> > References
>
> >
>
> > 1.  [8]https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/?.src=iOS
>
> > 2.  [9]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
>
> >
>
> >
>
> --
>
> References
>
> 1.  
> https://kommunikationsdienste.t-online.de/redirects/email_app_android_
> sendmail_footer
> 2.  mailto:dwinh...@lmi.net
> 3.  mailto:maan7...@yahoo.com
> 4.  mailto:tristanvonneum...@gmx.de
> 5.  mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
> 6.  mailto:tristanvonneum...@gmx.de
> 7.  http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
> 8.  https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/?.src=iOS
> 9.  http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: London Weiss manuscript is online

[David Smith]

I just downloaded the entire manuscript with no problem. Images appear to be 
4959x7017 (at least on the one I extracted from the PDF.
It appears they fixed their download problem.
David

-Original Message-
From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu  On Behalf Of Markus 
Lutz
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2018 2:49 AM
To: Barocklautenliste 
Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] London Weiss manuscript is online

Dear members of the baroque lute list,
Tim Crawford has written, that now the London Weiss manuscript is online. It 
can be viewed and also be downloaded via the following link:
http://access.bl.uk/item/viewer/ark:/81055/vdc_100059002407.0x01

It seems as if only downloading single jpgs works (at least for me).
It is a very good scan, although the given resolution isn't that detailed.
But you can look online into the pages in a very high resolution!

Best regards
Markus


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[LUTE] Re: Luthier question

[David Smith]

   Hi Brad,

   For all things Lute check
   out [1]http://home.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

   The Lute builder list is not real active but if people ask questions
   they get good responses. A number of the top builders are on it.

   Many of the issues building lutes are similar to guitars (bending wood,
   joinery). The bowl is obviously different.

   If you have not found it you can check out David van Edwards site as
   well. As to builders in LA, I am not aware of any down there. But lutes
   tend to hide in the woodwork and come out when least expected.

   Check out the LSA (Lute Society of America) meeting in Ohio this month.
   They have a session on building.

   Good luck.

   David
   Sent from my iPad
   On Jun 9, 2018, at 10:21 PM, Brad Horstkotte
   <[2]brad.horstko...@gmail.com> wrote:

 Hi all, new to the list (and lutes in general),so forgive me if any
   of
 this is remedial (I did search the archives):
 - is this a good place to ask questions re: luthiery specific to
   lutes
 / theorbos?
 - are there other web forums that would be good resources?  if there
 aren't, should we create one?
 - are there any lute builders in my neck of the woods (Los Angeles
 area)?
 Thanks - Brad
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References

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   2. mailto:brad.horstko...@gmail.com
   3. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Mus.Hs.17706 Sammlung von Lautentabulaturen von verschiedenen Komponisten

[David Smith]

   I received a request recently about this manuscript and went ahead and
   downloaded it. There are a LOT of blank pages and the theorbo parts
   start at the end, upside down, and come forward. I have posted two
   versions. The first is the complete download as posted on the
   Österreichische Nationalbibliothek web page. The other is without the
   blank pages and the theorbo parts rotated and put into the correct
   order. There is a blank page between the two.


   It can be found at: [1]http://www.dolcesfogato.com/Music/


   I hope this is useful to someone.


   Regards

   David Smith

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References

   1. http://www.dolcesfogato.com/Music/


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[LUTE] Re: Vatican Library

[David Smith]

   This is the highest I can get. There is a 110mb file they download but
   it has its own encoding that could not decode.

   David
   Sent from my iPhone
   On Nov 24, 2017, at 6:25 PM, T.Kakinami <[1]tk...@orchid.plala.or.jp>
   wrote:

   Thank you for your effort David!
   I wished more high quality original images.
   Kakinami
   -Original Message-
   From: [2]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu
   [[3]mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of David Smith
   Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2017 10:35 AM
   To: Jean-Marie Poirier
   Cc: Lute List
   Subject: [LUTE] Re: Vatican Library
   And just so the accolades can continu:. I have downloaded the files for
   both 4145 and 4177. The "download" button on the page creates unusable
   images, so, each of these is screen captured at the largest resolution
   I have available and then I did some editing to try to size them to be
   usable. I hope they are useful.
   They can both be found at [4]http://www.dolcesfogato.com/Music/ and
   search for Barberini.
   Please let me know if there is more complete information on either of
   these. I found minimal from the Vatican.
   Regards
   David
   -Original Message-
   From: [5]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu
   [[6]mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Jean-Marie Poirier
   Sent: Friday, November 24, 2017 8:56 AM
   Cc: Lute List <[7]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
   Subject: [LUTE] Re: Vatican Library
 I did not mean to press David Smith and I do agree that he must be
 thanked for all the services rendered to our community !
 Jean-Marie
 Le 24 nov. 2017 à 15:53, Ron Andrico <[1][8]praelu...@hotmail.com> a
     écrit :
 David Smith may be a wizard with technology but I believe he has to
 laboriously download each page and compile a pdf for general use.
   This
 is a very time-consuming process, particularly when downloading from
 the Vatican library since one must recite an Ave Maria and Pater
   Noster
 for each page.
 Seriously, David may or may not have the time or inclination to
   produce
 a complete pdf for this digitized manuscript, but he is to be roundly
 applauded for all the work he has done and made available so far.
 RA
   __
 From: [2][9]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu
   <[3][10]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu> on
 behalf of Jean-Marie Poirier <[4][11]jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr>
 Sent: Friday, November 24, 2017 1:00 PM
 To: 'Lute List'
 Subject: [LUTE] Re: Vatican Library
 ..David Smith, maybe, who seems to be a wizard for downloading whole
 files ??? ;-)
 Jean-Marie
 --

 Thank you Magnus !

 No way the whole ms. can be downloaded except page by page ?

 Best,

 Jean-Marie

 --

  Dear Lute friends,

  I don �t know whether this is common knowledge already,

  but I was very happy to see that the Vatican has digitized many

  manuscripts-

  among them Barberini lat. 4145, 4177.

  [1][5][12]https://digi.vatlib.it/view/MSS_Barb.lat.4145

  [2][6][13]https://digi.vatlib.it/view/MSS_Barb.lat.4177

  Happy plucking and strumming,

  Magnus

  --

 References

  1. [7][14]https://digi.vatlib.it/view/MSS_Barb.lat.4145

  2. [8][15]https://digi.vatlib.it/view/MSS_Barb.lat.4177

 To get on or off this list see list information at

 [9][16]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

 [10]Lute Mail list technical information
 [11][17]www.cs.dartmouth.edu
 How do I get on the lute mail list? To get on the mail list, send
   email
 with a Subject: of "subscribe" to
   [12][18]lute-requ...@cs.dartmouth.edu and
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   References
 1. [19]mailto:praelu...@hotmail.com
 2. [20]mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu
 3. [21]mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu
 4. [22]mailto:jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr
 5. [23]https://digi.vatlib.it/view/MSS_Barb.lat.4145
 6. [24]https://digi.vatlib.it/view/MSS_Barb.lat.4177
 7. [25]https://digi.vatlib.it/view/MSS_Barb.lat.4145
 8. [26]https://digi.vatlib.it/view/MSS_Barb.lat.4177
 9. [27]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
10. [28]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
11. [29]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/
12. [30]mailto:lute-requ...@cs.dartmouth.edu

References

   1. mailto:tk...@orchid.plala.or.jp
   2. mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu
   3. mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu
   4. http://www.dolcesfogato.com/Music/
   5. mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu
   6. mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu
   7. mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
   8. mailto:praelu...@hotmail.com
   9. mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu
  10. mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu
  11. mailto:jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr
  12. https://digi.vatlib.it/view/MSS_Barb.lat.4145
  13. https:/

[LUTE] Re: Vatican Library

[David Smith]

And just so the accolades can continu:. I have downloaded the files for both 
4145 and 4177. The "download" button on the page creates unusable images, so, 
each of these is screen captured at the largest resolution I have available and 
then I did some editing to try to size them to be usable. I hope they are 
useful.

They can both be found at http://www.dolcesfogato.com/Music/ and search for 
Barberini.

Please let me know if there is more complete information on either of these. I 
found minimal from the Vatican.

Regards
David

-Original Message-
From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of 
Jean-Marie Poirier
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2017 8:56 AM
Cc: Lute List <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Vatican Library

   I did not mean to press David Smith and I do agree that he must be
   thanked for all the services rendered to our community !

   Jean-Marie

   Le 24 nov. 2017 à 15:53, Ron Andrico <[1]praelu...@hotmail.com> a
   écrit :

   David Smith may be a wizard with technology but I believe he has to
   laboriously download each page and compile a pdf for general use.  This
   is a very time-consuming process, particularly when downloading from
   the Vatican library since one must recite an Ave Maria and Pater Noster
   for each page.

   Seriously, David may or may not have the time or inclination to produce
   a complete pdf for this digitized manuscript, but he is to be roundly
   applauded for all the work he has done and made available so far.
   RA
 __

   From: [2]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu <[3]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu> on
   behalf of Jean-Marie Poirier <[4]jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr>
   Sent: Friday, November 24, 2017 1:00 PM
   To: 'Lute List'
   Subject: [LUTE] Re: Vatican Library

   ..David Smith, maybe, who seems to be a wizard for downloading whole
   files ??? ;-)
   Jean-Marie
   --

   >Thank you Magnus !
   >No way the whole ms. can be downloaded except page by page ?
   >
   >Best,
   >Jean-Marie
   >
   >
   >--
   >
   >>   Dear Lute friends,
   >>   I don �t know whether this is common knowledge already,
   >>   but I was very happy to see that the Vatican has digitized many
   >>   manuscripts-
   >>   among them Barberini lat. 4145, 4177.
   >>   [1][5]https://digi.vatlib.it/view/MSS_Barb.lat.4145
   >>   [2][6]https://digi.vatlib.it/view/MSS_Barb.lat.4177
   >>   Happy plucking and strumming,
   >>   Magnus
   >>
   >>   --
   >>
   >>References
   >>
   >>   1. [7]https://digi.vatlib.it/view/MSS_Barb.lat.4145
   >>   2. [8]https://digi.vatlib.it/view/MSS_Barb.lat.4177
   >>
   >>
   >>To get on or off this list see list information at
   >>[9]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
   [10]Lute Mail list technical information
   [11]www.cs.dartmouth.edu
   How do I get on the lute mail list? To get on the mail list, send email
   with a Subject: of "subscribe" to [12]lute-requ...@cs.dartmouth.edu and
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References

   1. mailto:praelu...@hotmail.com
   2. mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu
   3. mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu
   4. mailto:jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr
   5. https://digi.vatlib.it/view/MSS_Barb.lat.4145
   6. https://digi.vatlib.it/view/MSS_Barb.lat.4177
   7. https://digi.vatlib.it/view/MSS_Barb.lat.4145
   8. https://digi.vatlib.it/view/MSS_Barb.lat.4177
   9. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
  10. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
  11. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/
  12. mailto:lute-requ...@cs.dartmouth.edu

[LUTE] Manuscript from The Library of Congress

[David Smith]

   Göran Crona found, downloaded and made a PDF of a manuscript from the
   Library of Congress. I have posted this at:
   [1]http://www.dolcesfogato.com/Music/ and is called “5 Gardano
   lutebooks”. It is a volume of 5 different lute books published between
   1554 and 1568. The information from the title pages is:


   La Intabolatura de lauto de diversi autori.

   Francesco da Milano

   Alberto da Mantoa

   Macro da Laquila

   Io Iacomo Ablutio da Milano

   Pietro Paulo Bornono da Milano

   Con alcune padouane. Et Saltarelli noui.

   In Uinegia Apresso Girlamo Scotto – 1563


   Intabolatura de Lauto di Bernardino Balletti

   De varie sorte de Balli Nouamente data in Luce

   Libro Primo

   In Venetia Apresso diAntonio Gardant – 1554


   La Intabolatura de lauto dell' eccellente P. Pauolo Borrono da Milano

   Di slatarelli, padouane, balli, fantasie, et canzon francese, novamente
   posta in luce

   In Uinegia Appresso Girolam Scotto – 1563


   Intabolaturo do liuto di Ivlio Abundante

   De ogni sorte de balli, novamente

   Libro Primo

   In Venetia apresso di Antonio Gardanio – 1563


   D'Intabulatura da Leuto Di M. Antonio di Becchi Parmegiano

   Libro Primo

   Compsta da lui novamente, et data in lucem con alcuni Balli,
   Napolitane, Madrigali, Canzon Francese, Recercari

   In Uinegia Appresso Girolamo Scott - 1568


   Thank you Göran for putting this together.

   Regards

   David


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References

   1. http://www.dolcesfogato.com/Music/


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[LUTE] Re: Cythara Sacra

[David Smith]

It is now posted at: http://www.dolcesfogato.com/Music/

David

-Original Message-
From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of 
G. C.
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 7:56 AM
To: Lute net <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Cythara Sacra

   Thanks Rainer, I did it the hard way.
   Finished converting and optimizing Reymann to one pdf file. Size is now
   117 Mb. I've asked David Smith if he could post it on his site and he
   has agreed. The optimum would of course be to improve it further into a
   file of single pages.
   G

   On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 4:40 PM, Rainer <[1]rads.bera_g...@t-online.de>
   wrote:

 I have no idea why most people hate deja vu format.
 There is an excellent viewer: [2]https://windjview.sourceforge.io/
 Extract all the files to a new directory and open the first (small
 file) with WinDjView.
 Converting the whole thing to a single pdf is extremely easy: Print
 it form WinDjView with a virtual pdf printer.
 Takes about 1 minute.
 If anybody wants to post it on a web page, give me the details of
 your drop box.
 The file is a bit large: 580 MB.
 Rainer

   On 11.09.2017 15:27, G. C. wrote:

 The djvu encoding is really "crap" and requires a lot of work
 via
 several programs to convert to PDF. I'm in the process of doing
 it.
 G.
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   2. https://windjview.sourceforge.io/
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[LUTE] Re: Digitized Music Mss at British Library

[David Smith]

Done. MS 58 can be found at http://www.dolcesfogato.com/Music/

David

-Original Message-
From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of 
Leonard Williams
Sent: Tuesday, August 1, 2017 12:50 PM
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Digitized Music Mss at British Library

Thanks!

Leonard

On 8/1/17, 3:03 PM, "David Smith" <lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu on behalf of 
d...@dolcesfogato.com> wrote:

>Only a page at a time.
>I have MS. 31992 downloaded and available at 
>http://www.dolcesfogato.com/Music/.
>I will get MS 58 and add it.
>
>David
>
>-Original Message-
>From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On 
>Behalf Of Leonard Williams
>Sent: Tuesday, August 1, 2017 11:01 AM
>To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
>Subject: [LUTE] Re: Digitized Music Mss at British Library
>
>Any way to download these? e.g., as pdf?
>
>Leonard Williams
>
>On 8/1/17, 12:21 PM, "Alain Veylit" <lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu on 
>behalf of al...@musickshandmade.com> wrote:
>
>>I found those 3:
>>
>>http://www.bl.uk/manuscripts/FullDisplay.aspx?ref=Add_MS_29246
>>
>>http://www.bl.uk/manuscripts/FullDisplay.aspx?ref=Add_MS_29247
>>
>>http://www.bl.uk/manuscripts/Viewer.aspx?ref=add_ms_31992_fs001r (W.
>>Byrd intabulations)
>>
>>
>>
>>On 08/01/2017 07:09 AM, Arthur Ness wrote:
>>> Here's the linksongs lute found those 3:
>>>
>>> 
>>>http://www.bl.uk/manuscripts/?_ga=2.209772245.1771726681.1501595289-186
>>> 0438649.1501595289
>>>
>>> Now 335 Mss, only a few with tablature, e.g., Paston MS
>>>
>>> Arthur Ness
>>> arthurjn...@verizon.net
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>> To get on or off this list see list information at 
>>> http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>

[LUTE] Re: Digitized Music Mss at British Library

[David Smith]

Only a page at a time.
I have MS. 31992 downloaded and available at http://www.dolcesfogato.com/Music/.
I will get MS 58 and add it.

David

-Original Message-
From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of 
Leonard Williams
Sent: Tuesday, August 1, 2017 11:01 AM
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Digitized Music Mss at British Library

Any way to download these? e.g., as pdf?

Leonard Williams

On 8/1/17, 12:21 PM, "Alain Veylit"  wrote:

>I found those 3:
>
>http://www.bl.uk/manuscripts/FullDisplay.aspx?ref=Add_MS_29246
>
>http://www.bl.uk/manuscripts/FullDisplay.aspx?ref=Add_MS_29247
>
>http://www.bl.uk/manuscripts/Viewer.aspx?ref=add_ms_31992_fs001r (W.
>Byrd intabulations)
>
>
>
>On 08/01/2017 07:09 AM, Arthur Ness wrote:
>> Here's the linksongs lute found those 3:
>>
>> 
>>http://www.bl.uk/manuscripts/?_ga=2.209772245.1771726681.1501595289-186
>> 0438649.1501595289
>>
>> Now 335 Mss, only a few with tablature, e.g., Paston MS
>>
>> Arthur Ness
>> arthurjn...@verizon.net
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>> To get on or off this list see list information at 
>> http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
>
>

[LUTE] Re: Digitised Music Mss at Brirish Librarfy

[David Smith]

The link goes to the Digitised Manuscripts page. Was this for specific 
manuscripts?
I did make sure that the entire address was used. The Paston MS appears to be: 
http://www.bl.uk/manuscripts/FullDisplay.aspx?index=4=Add_MS_31992

If I search for lute or tablature I get 8 and 5 hits returned.

David

-Original Message-
From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of 
Arthur Ness
Sent: Tuesday, August 1, 2017 7:09 AM
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [LUTE] Digitised Music Mss at Brirish Librarfy

   Here's the link

   
http://www.bl.uk/manuscripts/?_ga=2.209772245.1771726681.1501595289-1860438649.1501595289

   Now 335 Mss, only a few with tablature, e.g., Paston MS

   Arthur Ness
   arthurjn...@verizon.net

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[LUTE] Re: Musical Banquet

[David Smith]

It appears to be out of order and the quality seems pretty poor for a high res 
set of images. Or am I wrong and it is in order?
David

-Original Message-
From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of 
Rainer
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2017 11:13 AM
To: Lute net 
Subject: [LUTE] Musical Banquet

I seem to remember that recently somebody asked if the is a digital facsimile.

https://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/100910078

Unfortunately, you cannot download the whole book as a single pdf .


Rainer



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[LUTE] Re: Gigue in D minor (Possibly Weiss)

[David Smith]

And when I go to the link it is a blank page. Not sure what is going on but I 
have used both chrome and safari with the same results.
David

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 24, 2017, at 8:04 AM, Jean-Marie Poirier <jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr> wrote:
> 
> There you go David : 
> https://www.books2ebooks.eu/odm/orderformular.do;jsessionid=7CC03FEF47C6B9B8F9C16D1C15529ED5
> Just fill in your payment details and you're done ;-) !
> 
> Best,
> 
> Jean-Marie
> 
> 
> --
> 
>> Hi Mathew,
>> I have the links. The first link takes me to a page with many manuscripts 
>> but none with the title of the manuscript that matches. The second link goes 
>> to a blank page. This is why I was asking for clarification, on the first 
>> link there are two manuscripts that can be ordered. I think the second one 
>> is the correct one.
>> Regards
>> David
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Jan 24, 2017, at 12:18 AM, Matthew Daillie <dail...@club-internet.fr> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> David,
>>> If you look at my first response you will see the links to details of the 
>>> manuscript and how to order a download.
>>> Best,
>>> Matthew 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 24, 2017, at 0:50, Daniel Shoskes <kidneykut...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> It was 14.5 Euros, payable by credit card or paypal. 
>>>> 
>>>> That’s how it was listed. The contents are here: 
>>>> http://mss.slweiss.de/index.php?id=1=ms=F-Sim 
>>>> <http://mss.slweiss.de/index.php?id=1=ms=F-Sim>
>>>> 
>>>> Danny
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 23, 2017, at 6:27 PM, David Smith <d...@dolcesfogato.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Danny,
>>>>> How much was it? And Is it this document?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Laütenbüch 3989
>>>>> Musique imprimée - 1740
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> David
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On 
>>>>> Behalf Of Daniel Shoskes
>>>>> Sent: Monday, January 23, 2017 3:58 AM
>>>>> To: Matthew Daillie <dail...@club-internet.fr>
>>>>> Cc: Lute List <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
>>>>> Subject: [LUTE] Re: Gigue in D minor (Possibly Weiss)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks so much for the information Matthew. I went through the process 
>>>>> (took a few days) and today was able to download a high quality scan of 
>>>>> the Ms in which I have found other charming pieces that Pat O’Brien had 
>>>>> shared with me as “possible Weiss”. Even has a d minor Allemande (20v) 
>>>>> which was the first piece I ever played in public on the baroque lute at 
>>>>> LSA!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Danny
>>>>>> On Jan 18, 2017, at 7:46 AM, Matthew Daillie <dail...@club-internet.fr> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If you are interested you can order a scan of the Baltic Lute Book
>>>>>> (F-Sim ms. Rm 271 (Baltisches Lautenbuch) from the Strasbourg library.
>>>>>> Here are the links:
>>>>>> [1]http://biblio.bnu.fr/opac/.do?sysb=bnu=LIBERA:Lautenbuch#5
>>>>>> [2]https://www.books2ebooks.eu/odm/orderformular.do?formular_id21
>>>>>> mark=BUSBP_id=BUS1520062
>>>>>> It seems that it would cost in the region of 15 euros.
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>> Matthew
>>>>>> On 18/01/2017 10:48, [3]b...@symbol4.de wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Dear John,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> in the very deserving database of baroque lute manuscripts by Peter
>>>>>> Steur
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> [4]http://mss.slweiss.de
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> you'll find the "Strasbourg manuscript" as
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> [5]http://mss.slweiss.de/index.php?id=1=ms=F-SimÞu=all
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You can now browse the incipits, or you can use the filter function.
>>>>>> This can be tricky if the title is not written as you expected it to
>>>>>> be. In this case it is "Giga" instead of "Gigue". But if you enter the
>>>>>> beginning of the shelf mark (signat

[LUTE] Re: Gigue in D minor (Possibly Weiss)

[David Smith]

Hi Mathew,
I have the links. The first link takes me to a page with many manuscripts but 
none with the title of the manuscript that matches. The second link goes to a 
blank page. This is why I was asking for clarification, on the first link there 
are two manuscripts that can be ordered. I think the second one is the correct 
one.
Regards
David

Sent from my iPad

> On Jan 24, 2017, at 12:18 AM, Matthew Daillie <dail...@club-internet.fr> 
> wrote:
> 
> David,
> If you look at my first response you will see the links to details of the 
> manuscript and how to order a download.
> Best,
> Matthew 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jan 24, 2017, at 0:50, Daniel Shoskes <kidneykut...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> It was 14.5 Euros, payable by credit card or paypal. 
>> 
>> That’s how it was listed. The contents are here: 
>> http://mss.slweiss.de/index.php?id=1=ms=F-Sim 
>> <http://mss.slweiss.de/index.php?id=1=ms=F-Sim>
>> 
>> Danny
>> 
>>> On Jan 23, 2017, at 6:27 PM, David Smith <d...@dolcesfogato.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Danny,
>>> How much was it? And Is it this document?
>>> 
>>> Laütenbüch 3989
>>> Musique imprimée - 1740
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> David
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On 
>>> Behalf Of Daniel Shoskes
>>> Sent: Monday, January 23, 2017 3:58 AM
>>> To: Matthew Daillie <dail...@club-internet.fr>
>>> Cc: Lute List <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
>>> Subject: [LUTE] Re: Gigue in D minor (Possibly Weiss)
>>> 
>>> Thanks so much for the information Matthew. I went through the process 
>>> (took a few days) and today was able to download a high quality scan of the 
>>> Ms in which I have found other charming pieces that Pat O’Brien had shared 
>>> with me as “possible Weiss”. Even has a d minor Allemande (20v) which was 
>>> the first piece I ever played in public on the baroque lute at LSA!
>>> 
>>> Danny
>>>> On Jan 18, 2017, at 7:46 AM, Matthew Daillie <dail...@club-internet.fr> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> If you are interested you can order a scan of the Baltic Lute Book
>>>> (F-Sim ms. Rm 271 (Baltisches Lautenbuch) from the Strasbourg library.
>>>> Here are the links:
>>>> [1]http://biblio.bnu.fr/opac/.do?sysb=bnu=LIBERA:Lautenbuch#5
>>>> [2]https://www.books2ebooks.eu/odm/orderformular.do?formular_id21
>>>> mark=BUSBP_id=BUS1520062
>>>> It seems that it would cost in the region of 15 euros.
>>>> Best,
>>>> Matthew
>>>> On 18/01/2017 10:48, [3]b...@symbol4.de wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Dear John,
>>>> 
>>>> in the very deserving database of baroque lute manuscripts by Peter
>>>> Steur
>>>> 
>>>> [4]http://mss.slweiss.de
>>>> 
>>>> you'll find the "Strasbourg manuscript" as
>>>> 
>>>> [5]http://mss.slweiss.de/index.php?id=1=ms=F-SimÞu=all
>>>> 
>>>> You can now browse the incipits, or you can use the filter function.
>>>> This can be tricky if the title is not written as you expected it to
>>>> be. In this case it is "Giga" instead of "Gigue". But if you enter the
>>>> beginning of the shelf mark (signature ) "F-Sim" and the tonality "d
>>>> minor" you'll end up with 10 pieces, one of them is the one you are
>>>> looking for.
>>>> 
>>>> [6]http://mss.slweiss.de/index.php?lang=eng=1=1=mss=0;
>>>> test=1=all=F-Simd=0
>>>> 
>>>> best wishes
>>>> B
>>>> 
>>>> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 18. Januar 2017 um 10:11 Uhr
>>>> Von: "John Yentes" [7]<jackyen...@gmail.com>
>>>> An: [8]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
>>>> Betreff: [LUTE] Gigue in D minor (Possibly Weiss)
>>>> I am looking for the tablature to this specific piece of music. it is
>>>> from the Strasbourg manuscript according to the uploader of this video
>>>> I have included. If anyone knows where I can find it, I would be
>>>> greatly appreciative. I have searched quite a bit and have, as of
>>>> yet, come up empty handed.
>>>> [1][1][9]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-O5cvv_Rg8
>>>> Thanks
>>>> John
>>>> --
>>>> References
>>>> 1. [2][10]https://www.youtube.com/

[LUTE] Re: Gigue in D minor (Possibly Weiss)

[David Smith]

Danny,
How much was it? And Is it this document?

Laütenbüch 3989
Musique imprimée - 1740

Regards
David

-Original Message-
From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of 
Daniel Shoskes
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2017 3:58 AM
To: Matthew Daillie 
Cc: Lute List 
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Gigue in D minor (Possibly Weiss)

Thanks so much for the information Matthew. I went through the process (took a 
few days) and today was able to download a high quality scan of the Ms in which 
I have found other charming pieces that Pat O’Brien had shared with me as 
“possible Weiss”. Even has a d minor Allemande (20v) which was the first piece 
I ever played in public on the baroque lute at LSA!

Danny
> On Jan 18, 2017, at 7:46 AM, Matthew Daillie  wrote:
> 
>   If you are interested you can order a scan of the Baltic Lute Book
>   (F-Sim ms. Rm 271 (Baltisches Lautenbuch) from the Strasbourg library.
>   Here are the links:
>   [1]http://biblio.bnu.fr/opac/.do?sysb=bnu=LIBERA:Lautenbuch#5
>   [2]https://www.books2ebooks.eu/odm/orderformular.do?formular_id21
>   mark=BUSBP_id=BUS1520062
>   It seems that it would cost in the region of 15 euros.
>   Best,
>   Matthew
>   On 18/01/2017 10:48, [3]b...@symbol4.de wrote:
> 
>   Dear John,
> 
>   in the very deserving database of baroque lute manuscripts by Peter
>   Steur
> 
>   [4]http://mss.slweiss.de
> 
>   you'll find the "Strasbourg manuscript" as
> 
>   [5]http://mss.slweiss.de/index.php?id=1=ms=F-SimÞu=all
> 
>   You can now browse the incipits, or you can use the filter function.
>   This can be tricky if the title is not written as you expected it to
>   be. In this case it is "Giga" instead of "Gigue". But if you enter the
>   beginning of the shelf mark (signature ) "F-Sim" and the tonality "d
>   minor" you'll end up with 10 pieces, one of them is the one you are
>   looking for.
> 
>   [6]http://mss.slweiss.de/index.php?lang=eng=1=1=mss=0;
>   test=1=all=F-Simd=0
> 
>   best wishes
>   B
> 
>   Gesendet: Mittwoch, 18. Januar 2017 um 10:11 Uhr
>   Von: "John Yentes" [7]
>   An: [8]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
>   Betreff: [LUTE] Gigue in D minor (Possibly Weiss)
>   I am looking for the tablature to this specific piece of music. it is
>   from the Strasbourg manuscript according to the uploader of this video
>   I have included. If anyone knows where I can find it, I would be
>   greatly appreciative. I have searched quite a bit and have, as of
>   yet, come up empty handed.
>   [1][1][9]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-O5cvv_Rg8
>   Thanks
>   John
>   --
>   References
>   1. [2][10]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-O5cvv_Rg8
>   To get on or off this list see list information at
>   [3][11]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
> 
> References
> 
>   1. [12]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-O5cvv_Rg8
>   2. [13]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-O5cvv_Rg8
>   3. [14]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
> 
> 
> -
> 
>   --
> 
> References
> 
>   1. http://biblio.bnu.fr/opac/.do?sysb=bnu=LIBERA:Lautenbuch#5
>   2. 
> https://www.books2ebooks.eu/odm/orderformular.do?formular_id21=BUSBP_id=BUS1520062
>   3. mailto:b...@symbol4.de
>   4. http://mss.slweiss.de/
>   5. http://mss.slweiss.de/index.php?id=1=ms=F-SimÞu=all
>   6. http://mss.slweiss.de/index.php?lang=eng=1=1=mss=0;
>   7. mailto:jackyen...@gmail.com
>   8. mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
>   9. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-O5cvv_Rg8
>  10. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-O5cvv_Rg8
>  11. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
>  12. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-O5cvv_Rg8
>  13. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-O5cvv_Rg8
>  14. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
> 

[LUTE] Re: Source for Le Berceau Canarie

[David Smith]

Thank you for the clarification and the details. That makes a lot more sense to 
me now.
Warmest regards
David

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 19, 2016, at 4:03 PM, AJN <arthurjn...@verizon.net> wrote:
> 
> This is an interesting case, perhaps deserving of an extended comment. 
> 
> 
> In many collected editions, and other scholarly publications, there may be a 
> list of original sources from which the editor drew pieces included in the 
> edition or study, often 
> 
> cited with an abbreviation. . It is important to look up and use the 
> resolution given in the list of source abbreviatons. Guesses don't 
> work. 
> 
> 
> David's _*Method*_ cited as source for the piece he sought, "CZ-Pa Ms 
> Pruni�res". This is a RISM library sigla for CZ=Czechoslovakia, P=Prague and 
> a=archive (the State Archive in Prague--I was there once. It has ONE 
> manuscript lute 
> 
> 
> tablature with anonymous minuets galore, bourees, polonaises, etc., formerly 
> in a Piarist and convent.*) 
> 
> 
> Consequently I too was puzzled by the reference to Pruni�res in Prague, of 
> all places. Henry Pruni�res (d. 1942) was a famous French scholar and 
> bibliophile who specialized in 17th century French music. 
> 
> His most famous work is a biography and complete edition of the works of 
> Lully in TEN volumes. As a bibliophile he also collected original scores, 
> including several lute tablatures, which passed through his library 
> 
> to the Bibioth�que nationale in Paris. Pa-, pa-, papa-geno? Paris? or Prague?
> 
> 
> [OT] Henry enjoys a "special" place in my heart because he made an 
> arrangement of Francesco da Milano's Ricercar No. 37 (which is actually by 
> Perino Fiorentino, Francesco's student). The arrangement is for "concert 
> grand piano." 
> 
> It is so filled with pianistic figurations that when performed it would sound 
> like a piece by Franz Liszt himself!! 
> 
> 
> Well the "Le Berceus canarie" that David requested appears twice in the 
> collected edition of lute music by Dubut father and son, _*Oeuvres des 
> Dubut*_ ed. Monique Rollin and Jean-Michel Vaccaro (Paris: CNRS 1979), 
> 
> -No. 122 ("Le Berceus, canarie" from ""Pa Pruni�res""** [=F-Pn Vmc ms. 
> 61, fol. 47 recto!!!]) AND 
> 
> -No. 128 ("Gigue" from ""Pa Barbe"" [=F-Pn Vmb 7, p. 53]), both by Dubut 
> P�re. 
> 
> 
> "Pa" in the _*Oeuvres*_ stands not for Prague Archive, but Paris, that is, 
> the Biblioth�que nationale [=F-Pn}. PAY ATTENTION TO ABBREVIATIONS, they're 
> all over the place in our repertory. And can be confused, as in this 
> 
> instance by the author of David's _*Method*_
> 
> 
> **[Formerly in Pruni�res private library, later in the private library of 
> Genevieve Thibault. "Pa Barbe" also went directly from Pruni�res library to 
> the Bibl. nationale.
> 
> *I'll leave for later the use of minuets in monasteries and convents, e.g., 
> at Melk. From behind that round window from which music often sounded.
> 
> --
> On 12/19/16, Matthew Daillie wrote:
> 
> On 19/12/2016 19:47, David Smith wrote:
>> Where is it documented that CZ-Pa Ms. Prunières became F-Pn Rés. Vmc ms. 61? 
>> I have tried to trace this but am not finding it.
> 
> The CNRS edition does not give the Vmc ms. 61 reference but for the 
> Prunières source states the following:
> 
> Paris, B.N., aut. Bibl. particulière Prunières, puis Bibl. G. Thibault 
> de Chambure (v. 1712). "Fantaisies et Préludes... (par) Mr Weiss � Rome".
> 
> Best
> 
> Matthew
> 
> 
> 
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[LUTE] Re: Source for Le Berceau Canarie

[David Smith]

Thank you Matthew. Luckily I have the Barbe manuscript and that works well for 
what I want.

I do see how It was found on SMT and in mss.slweiss.de.

I guess I have a couple of questions. Where is it documented that CZ-Pa Ms. 
Prunières became F-Pn Rés. Vmc ms. 61? I have tried to trace this but am not 
finding it.

Also, it appears that F-Pn Rés. Vmc ms. 61 is not available on line. Is the 
only access request a copy from the Bibliothèque Nationale de Paris?

Thank you for the help.

Regards
David


-Original Message-
From: Matthew Daillie [mailto:dail...@club-internet.fr] 
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 3:01 AM
To: David Smith <d...@dolcesfogato.com>; Lute List <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
Subject: Re: [LUTE] Source for Le Berceau Canarie

On 19/12/2016 02:04, David Smith wrote:
> I am working on a piece in Miguel Serdoura’s Method for Baroque Lute
> and am trying to find the manuscript it is from.
>
> In his edition, he references CZ-Pa Ms. Prunières and that it is by
> Dubut (le père).
>
>
> I have done some looking for this but cannot find the manuscript in the
> Praha, Státní Archív or anywhere else.
>
>
> Anyone have a suggestion where I might find the source for this?
>
> Regards
>
> Dvid
>
> --
>
>
Le Berceau canarie is on f.47 of the Prunières (now part of the Thibault de 
Chambure collection in the Bibliothèque Nationale de Paris and entitled 
"Fantaisies et Préludes... Mr Weiss à Rome). You might be able to locate it 
here:
http://gallica.bnf.fr/

It can also be found on p.53 of the Barbe manuscript, entitled 'Gigue
Dubut':
http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b530592353/f57.image

I have the CNRS edition if that is of any use to you.

Best,
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[LUTE] Re: Source for Le Berceau Canarie

[David Smith]

   Thank you Andi,

   Do you know of a way to get a copy of Vmc ms. 61?


   Regards

   David


   From: Andreas Schlegel [mailto:lute.cor...@sunrise.ch]
   Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 3:04 AM
   To: Bernd Haegemann <b...@symbol4.de>
   Cc: David Smith <d...@dolcesfogato.com>; lute list
   <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
   Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Source for Le Berceau Canarie


   Or this:

   Le Berceau, F-Pn Rés. Vmc ms. 61, 119


   [1]http://w1.bnu.fr/smt/canarie.htm#berceau


   119 is the piece number. You have to go to the SMT catalogue to find
   the page/folio. Here it's on f. 47r, second piece.


   Andi


   Am 19.12.2016 um 11:05 schrieb [2]b...@symbol4.de:

   is it this:
   [3]http://mss.slweiss.de/index.php?langÞu=1=1=mss
 =0
   st=1===¾rceau===0
   ?
   Gesendet: Montag, 19. Dezember 2016 um 02:04 Uhr
   Von: "David Smith" <[4]d...@dolcesfogato.com>
   An: "Lute List" <[5]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
   Betreff: [LUTE] Source for Le Berceau Canarie
   I am working on a piece in Miguel Serdoura’s Method for Baroque
 Lute
   and am trying to find the manuscript it is from.
   In his edition, he references CZ-Pa Ms. Prunières and that it is
 by
   Dubut (le père).
   I have done some looking for this but cannot find the manuscript
 in the
   Praha, Státnà ArchÃv or anywhere else.
   Anyone have a suggestion where I might find the source for this?
   Regards
   Dvid
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   Andreas Schlegel

   Eckstr. 6

   CH-5737 Menziken

   +41 (0)62 771 47 07

   [8]lute.cor...@sunrise.ch

References

   1. http://w1.bnu.fr/smt/canarie.htm#berceau
   2. mailto:b...@symbol4.de
   3. http://mss.slweiss.de/index.php?langÞu=1=1=mss=0
   4. mailto:d...@dolcesfogato.com
   5. mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
   6. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
   7. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
   8. mailto:lute.cor...@sunrise.ch

[LUTE] Re: Source for Le Berceau Canarie

[David Smith]

   It is. Thank you. I searched that database and could not find it by
   author or as a canarie. I see you used just part of the name (Berceau).
   Nice work.

   Regards

   David
   Sent from my iPad

   On Dec 19, 2016, at 2:06 AM, "[1]b...@symbol4.de" <[2]b...@symbol4.de>
   wrote:

   is it this:
   [3]http://mss.slweiss.de/index.php?lang=deu=1=1=mss
   =0=1Berceau===0

   ?

   Gesendet: Montag, 19. Dezember 2016 um 02:04 Uhr
   Von: "David Smith" <[4]d...@dolcesfogato.com>
   An: "Lute List" <[5]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
   Betreff: [LUTE] Source for Le Berceau Canarie
   I am working on a piece in Miguel Serdoura’s Method for Baroque Lute
   and am trying to find the manuscript it is from.
   In his edition, he references CZ-Pa Ms. Prunières and that it is by
   Dubut (le père).
   I have done some looking for this but cannot find the manuscript in the
   Praha, Státnà ArchÃv or anywhere else.
   Anyone have a suggestion where I might find the source for this?
   Regards
   Dvid
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References

   1. mailto:b...@symbol4.de
   2. mailto:b...@symbol4.de
   3. 
http://mss.slweiss.de/index.php?lang=deu=1=1=mss=0=1Berceau===0
   4. mailto:d...@dolcesfogato.com
   5. mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
   6. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Source for Le Berceau Canarie

[David Smith]

   I am working on a piece in Miguel Serdoura’s Method for Baroque Lute
   and am trying to find the manuscript it is from.

   In his edition, he references CZ-Pa Ms. Prunières and that it is by
   Dubut (le père).


   I have done some looking for this but cannot find the manuscript in the
   Praha, Státní Archív or anywhere else.


   Anyone have a suggestion where I might find the source for this?

   Regards

   Dvid

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[LUTE] Re: Chaconne by du Vieux Gautier

[David Smith]

For those of you that did not get the reply here it is. Since attachments are 
not accepted the link is: 
http://culture.besancon.fr/ark:/48565/a011284026247S0XA9H/1/1
David

-Original Message-
From: David Smith 
Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2016 5:15 PM
To: 'John Trout' <tjtrout...@gmail.com>; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: RE: [LUTE] Chaconne by du Vieux Gautier

Or, if you prefer color (see attached). Manuscript can be found at: 
http://culture.besancon.fr/ark:/48565/a011284026247S0XA9H/1/1

David

-Original Message-
From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of 
John Trout
Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2016 2:54 PM
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [LUTE] Chaconne by du Vieux Gautier

Dear lute list

Can anyone help me find the tab for gautier's chaconne. It is track 8 on Claire 
Antonioni's cd of French baroque music. 

Thanks in advance

John

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[LUTE] Re: Chaconne by du Vieux Gautier

[David Smith]

Or, if you prefer color (see attached). Manuscript can be found at: 
http://culture.besancon.fr/ark:/48565/a011284026247S0XA9H/1/1

David

-Original Message-
From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of 
John Trout
Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2016 2:54 PM
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [LUTE] Chaconne by du Vieux Gautier

Dear lute list

Can anyone help me find the tab for gautier's chaconne. It is track 8 on Claire 
Antonioni's cd of French baroque music. 

Thanks in advance

John

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[LUTE] Re: Chaconne by du Vieux Gautier

[David Smith]

Saizenay manuscript Page 20. Page attached.
David


-Original Message-
From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of 
John Trout
Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2016 2:54 PM
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [LUTE] Chaconne by du Vieux Gautier

Dear lute list

Can anyone help me find the tab for gautier's chaconne. It is track 8 on Claire 
Antonioni's cd of French baroque music. 

Thanks in advance

John

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[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: The Baroque Lute Companion

[David Smith]

It is available here: http://www.luteonline.se/lundgren-edition/companion.htm
And https://www.bems.com/music.html?q_c=74
I would recommend checking out Yisrael, Miguel 
Method for the Baroque Lute. A practical guide for beginning and advanced 
lutenists
http://www.utorpheus.com/product_info.php?products_id=1987
as well. Good tutor plus nice collection of pieces.

Regards
David

-Original Message-
From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of 
David Rastall
Sent: Friday, December 2, 2016 11:14 AM
To: baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] The Baroque Lute Companion

Does anyone have a copy of S. Lungren’s Baroque Lute Companion that they no 
longer need, or for whatever reason would be willing to part with?  

David R



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[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Ms NYPL Mus. Res. *MYO online

[David Smith]

And the PDF of the entire document can be found at 
http://www.dolcesfogato.com/Music/ title NYPL Music Reserve MYO. The file is 
81MB.
I tried to get the TIFF files but they are 177MB each and only about the first 
15 are available. These are good enough resolution to play from.
Have fun!

Regard
David

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From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of 
Ralf Bachmann
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 2:01 PM
To: baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Ms NYPL Mus. Res. *MYO online

   [1]http://digitalcollections.nypl.org/items/6b020d00-d0d6-0132-22a3-58d
   385a7b928#/?uuid=6b020d00-d0d6-0132-22a3-58d385a7b928

   Saludos,

   Ralf Bachmann

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References

   1. 
http://digitalcollections.nypl.org/items/6b020d00-d0d6-0132-22a3-58d385a7b928#/?uuid=6b020d00-d0d6-0132-22a3-58d385a7b928


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[LUTE] Re: Creating a short score from pdf full score

[David Smith]

Any recommendation on a good Bluetooth foot switch?
David

-Original Message-
From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of 
David van Ooijen
Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 1:36 PM
Cc: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Creating a short score from pdf full score

   Or spend money on the ultimate setup for PDFs: iPad, forScore and
   Bluetooth foot switch. It's the norm in jazz these days, and I see it
   more in classical orchestras as well. Even I use it.

   David
   On Thursday, 6 October 2016, MJ Hodgson <[1]mjhodg...@hotmail.co.uk>
   wrote:

I will just as soon as I can run MUSESCORE! Four times I've
 downloaded
it (MUSESCORE 2) and tried to run the program to set up only for
 it to
fail Error 2608 (I recall) which was very obstinate to remove.
 Twice I
used a third party (Sourceforge) and even a mirror but to no
 avail. I
wonder if it's a temporary glitch and thought I'd try again
tomorrow
I downloaded an old version from CNET (MUSESCORE 1.13) and it ran
 OK
but it doesn't accept pdf files which, I believe, the latest
 version
does.
Martyn
  
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From: AJN <[2]arthurjn...@verizon.net>
Sent: 06 October 2016 13:30
To: [3]mjhodg...@hotmail.co.uk; [4]arthurjn...@verizon.net;
[5]r...@mh-freiburg.de; [6]hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk
Cc: [7]bruno.l...@gmail.com; [8]tiorbin...@gmail.com;
[9]davidvanooi...@gmail.com; [10]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Creating a short score from pdf full
 score
Martyn,
Be sure to let us know what happens with DTOe and MuseScore!
On 10/06/16, MJ Hodgson<[11]mjhodg...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
Thanks to all for thheir kind help. It seems there is no easy
 answer
but that MUSESCORE2 might be suitable - but only if the original
 was
created digitally in the first place - also other issues. Some of
 the
scores I'm looking at currently are the Biber mass settings in
 the old
(but still quite good) editions in the series [1]Denkmäler der
 Tonkunst
in Ãsterreich
I guess from what is being said that these wouldn't work with
 MUSESCORE
- but I'll certainly give it a whirl!
Many thanks
Martyn
  
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From: AJN <[2][12]arthurjn...@verizon.net>
Sent: 05 October 2016 19:15
To: [3][13]r...@mh-freiburg.de; [4][14]hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk
Cc: [5][15]mjhodg...@hotmail.co.uk; [6][16]bruno.l...@gmail.com;
[7][17]tiorbin...@gmail.com; [8][18]davidvanooi...@gmail.com;
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Subject: Re: Re: Re: Creating a short score from pdf full score
I think it was MuseScore that the Italian publisher used from my
 *.PDF
input file.   It worked very well.   And was probably very easy.
On 10/05/16, Ralf Mattes<[11][21]r...@mh-freiburg.de> wrote:
Am Mittwoch, 05. Oktober 2016 16:54 CEST, Martyn Hodgson
<[12][22]hodgsonmar...@cs.dartmouth.edu> schrieb:
> Thank you Arthur.
> In fact chatting to an IT person earlier today they suggested
 GIMP
> which seems to be much used for art work etc but they thought
 might
> also be useful to move blocks of musical systems around. I've
> downloaded it (it's free!) but the operation of the software
 isn't
> obvious so I'll have to find precious time to understand it -
 unless
my
> son (now a Seattle resident) can explain it all to me when I
 next
chat
> with him...
Please, don't use Gimp. It's a marvelous program, but not meant
 for
that kind
of job (and your "IT-person" should know ...) Gimp works on
 raster
images
only and will convert a pdf to a (set of) raster images. At that
 point
you work with
pixel data which will most likely look rather disapointing when
 printed
at
a different resolution.
> Incidentally, Finale does have a free 'Notepad' version but
 this
seems
> very limited and unable (I think) to do the sort of cut and
 paste I
had
> in mind.
Before you investigate further in Finale (a piece of crap IMHO)
 you
might
want to have a look at MuseScore ([13][23]https://musescore.org)
 - that'll
probably
give you more than you ever need, and the latest versions have
 pretty
good
support for lute tab.
> Previously I've simply run off a photocopy and by using some
> large paper shears and glue made a 

[LUTE] Re: Barbetta 1586 Italian lute book online

[David Smith]

I have downloaded the images and posted a PDF of the Library of Congress 
manuscript at http://www.dolcesfogato.com/Music/.
David

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From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of 
Bernd Haegemann
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 9:37 AM
To: theoj89...@aol.com; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Barbetta 1586 Italian lute book online

On 27.09.2016 16:27, theoj89...@new-old-mail.cs.dartmouth.edu wrote:
> Giulio Cesare Barbetta's 1585 lute book (italian tab) is online through
> the US Library of Congress:
> https://www.loc.gov/item/2014572374/
> This may be old news, but I just found it. Cheers, trj
>
>   
Thank you, Theo!
I knew only this:

http://digital.blb-karlsruhe.de/blbihd/content/pageview/1392810




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[LUTE] Re: Facsimile of the Add MS 31992

[David Smith]

I have downloaded images and put a PDF of the files on 
http://www.dolcesfogato.com/Music/ as British Library MS 31992.
Please take a look. It was a bit of work to get the images in high enough 
resolution to be clean.

Regards
David

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From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of 
Matteo Turri
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 11:05 AM
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [LUTE] Facsimile of the Add MS 31992

   aa
   Facsimile of the Add MS 31992 at the BL:
   [1]http://www.bl.uk/manuscripts/FullDisplay.aspx?index=2=
   Add_MS_31992
   "SACRED and other music, in lute notation, chiefly by William Byrd.
   Other composers are Thomas Tallis, Nicholas Strogers, William Damon,
   Filippo de Monte, Ludovico Vittoria, Thomas Crequillon, Giacches de
   Wert, George Formellis, and Francesco de Rivolo. Paper; ff. 99. End of
   XVIth or begiining of XVIIth cent. In the original binding on which is
   stamped the name of Edwardus Paston. See another MS. in the same hand,
   Add. 29,246. Oblate Quarto. "

   --

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[LUTE] Re: Purcell

[David Smith]

http://earlyguitar.ning.com/forum/topics/princess-anne-s-lute-book


-Original Message-
From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of 
Dan Winheld
Sent: Saturday, October 1, 2016 9:04 AM
To: mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk; mjhodg...@hotmail.co.uk
Cc: LutList 
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Purcell

Hello Monica-
I have never heard of Princess Anne's Lute Book- could you please enlighten me 
a little further?
Thanks,   Dan W.


On 10/1/2016 1:25 AM, mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk wrote:
> And if you have access to it, Princess Anne's Lute Book includes
> arrangements of about 20 pieces from Purcell's stage works of the 1690s
> including one piece that might just possibly be one of those played
> during a performance of Dido.
> Monica
>
>
> Original Message
> From: mjhodg...@hotmail.co.uk
> Date: 01/10/2016 8:04
> To: "Bruno Figueiredo", "List LUTELIST" dartmouth.edu>
> Subj: [LUTE] Re: Purcell
>
> If you play the 5 course (baroque) guitar then you'll see that Purcell
> asks for a couple of dances for this instrument so this will best
> fit
> the composer's intentions - as well as having audience appeal.
> Select
> a chaconne  and another piece by, say, Corbetta and this will work
> very well in performance.
>
> Peter Holman, with whom I've frequently played continuo in D,
> believes Purcell expected guitar continuo for much of this
> particular work.
>
> MH
>   __
>
> From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu  on
> behalf
> of Bruno Figueiredo 
> Sent: 30 September 2016 14:18
> To: List LUTELIST
> Subject: [LUTE] Purcell
>
>I have been asked to play on Purcell's Dido (modern orchestra at
> 442
>with my little 8 course - ok, we can skip this part) and the
> conductor
>asked for a solo lute piece by Purcell or someone in the same
> style.
> Is
>there any dance tune of him transcribed for renaissance lute? I
> thought
>that maybe a saraband by Puccinini might work...
>Any advice is welcomed!
>--
>Bruno Figueiredo
>Pesquisador autônomo da prática e interpretação
>historicamente informada no alaúde e teorba.
>Doutor em Práticas Interpretativas  pela
>Universidade Federal do Estado do Rio de Janeiro.
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[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Request from beginner

[David Smith]

Being a relatively new comer to the Baroque Lute I can sympathize.
You might want to look at: 
http://www.lutesociety.org/pages/comparison-of-baroque-lute-tutors
I found Miguel Yisrael's Method for the Baroque Lute 
(http://www.utorpheus.com/product_info.php?products_id=1987) to be quite 
helpful. Lots of music plus clear directions on how to play.

Good luck.
David

-Original Message-
From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of 
john
Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2016 11:54 PM
To: baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Request from beginner

   Hello Baroque Lute group,


   I was wondering if anyone could recommend a few lute pieces for a
   complete beginner.  I have just finished building a 13c Baroque Lute
   from David Van Edwards excellent course and have found playing it to be
   much different than I expected - compared to the Renaissance lute and
   classic guitar which I have played for over 30 years.


   What pieces might you recommend to get started?  Thanks!

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[LUTE] Re: CD

[David Smith]

   Thank you.

   David


   From: r.turov...@gmail.com [mailto:r.turov...@gmail.com]
   Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 3:48 PM
   To: David Smith <d...@dolcesfogato.com>
   Cc: David van Ooijen <davidvanooi...@gmail.com>; Lute List
   <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
   Subject: Re: [LUTE] CD


   I've put the booklet up on

   [1]http://turovsky.org/CD ,bottom of the page.

   Enjoy!

   RT

   Sent from my iPhone

   On Sep 19, 2016, at 6:29 PM, David Smith <[2]d...@dolcesfogato.com>
   wrote:

   RT
   Is there any chance of the booklet being made available to show of us
   that purchase the download version?
   Regards
   David
   -Original Message-
   From: [3]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu
   [[4]mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Roman Turovsky
   Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 11:28 AM
   To: David van Ooijen <[5]davidvanooi...@gmail.com>; Lute List
   <[6]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
   Subject: [LUTE] CD
   Dear friends,
   I am very happy to announce that Christopher Wilke has recorded a CD of
   my compositions for Baroque lute on Ukrainian themes, titled DE
   TEMPORUM FINE POSTLUDIA. It was an honor and a pleasure to work with a
   musician of such unparalleled musicality and depth as Chris.
   The CD was recorded back in early May, and mastered,  in New York by
   Jaroslaw "Slau" Halatyn.
   It also has an introductory article by Tim Crawford!
   It is available now on CDbaby, and the physical CD will be available on
   September 20th!
   [7]http://turovsky.org/CD/
   Heartfelt thanks to all our supporters and subscribers, your CD is in
   the mail (and this includes all participants in my radioprojects)!
   RT
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References

   1. http://turovsky.org/CD
   2. mailto:d...@dolcesfogato.com
   3. mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu
   4. mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu
   5. mailto:davidvanooi...@gmail.com
   6. mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
   7. http://turovsky.org/CD/
   8. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: CD

[David Smith]

RT
Is there any chance of the booklet being made available to show of us that 
purchase the download version?

Regards
David

-Original Message-
From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of 
Roman Turovsky
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 11:28 AM
To: David van Ooijen ; Lute List 

Subject: [LUTE] CD

Dear friends,

I am very happy to announce that Christopher Wilke has recorded a CD of my 
compositions for Baroque lute on Ukrainian themes, titled DE TEMPORUM FINE 
POSTLUDIA. It was an honor and a pleasure to work with a musician of such 
unparalleled musicality and depth as Chris.

The CD was recorded back in early May, and mastered,  in New York by Jaroslaw 
"Slau" Halatyn.
It also has an introductory article by Tim Crawford!

It is available now on CDbaby, and the physical CD will be available on 
September 20th!
http://turovsky.org/CD/

Heartfelt thanks to all our supporters and subscribers, your CD is in the mail 
(and this includes all participants in my radioprojects)!

RT




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[LUTE] Giles Lodge's lute book PDF

[David Smith]

   I have uploaded a PDF of the lute tablature pages in the Giles Lodge
   manuscript from the Folger Shakespeare Library. Thank you to G. Crona
   for sending me the images.


   The file is located at: [1]http://www.dolcesfogato.com/Music/


   Regards

   David

   --

References

   1. http://www.dolcesfogato.com/Music/


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[LUTE] Re: some French lute

[David Smith]

Tom,
Just downloaded and added all the metatdata to your tracks from Dan's site. 
Very nice.
Did you create a booklet with this? Is it possible to get a PDF of it for those 
of us that buy the download instead of the CD?

Regards
David

-Original Message-
From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of 
Thomas Walker
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 7:31 AM
To: Jean-Marie Poirier ; 'Lute List' 

Subject: [LUTE] Re: some French lute

   Thanks for the reminder, Jean-Marie!  I forgot to provide a link for
   those who prefer digital
   download...[1]http://shop.gamutmusic.com/la-superbe-digital-download/

   I believe Dan has lossless files available, so one should still get the
   full auditory experience.

   Best,

   tom
 __

   From: Jean-Marie Poirier 
   Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 2:59 AM
   To: Thomas Walker; 'Lute List'
   Subject: Re: [LUTE] some French lute

   Thank you for the info Thomas ! I would be interested in your CD  "La
   Superbe" but the shipping cost to Europe is preposterous ! It is more
   expensive than the CD itself...
   I'm afraid I will have to wait till it is available on Magnatune or
   Amazon or other media to buy it.
   Best wishes,
   Jean-Marie
   --

   >   Hello all,
   >
   >   I'm happy to announce that my latest record devoted to the music of
   >   Reusner and Dufaut is available through Gamut Music's website:
   >   [1]http://shop.gamutmusic.com/la-superbe/.
   >
   >   For a quick sample, I still have the a minor suite on youtube:
   >   [2]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVzgYxzihkM
   >
   >   This and an earlier CD devoted to Piccinini & company will both be
   >   available on Magnatune, but I understand the flat fee for full
   access
   >   is a bit steep (although given their library, it's still a good
   deal).
   >In any case, Dan Larson was kind enough to handle the shipping &
   >   packaging for me on La Superbe.
   >
   >   Cheers,
   >
   >   Tom Walker
   >
   >   --
   >
   >References
   >
   >   1. [2]http://shop.gamutmusic.com/la-superbe/
   [3][La_Superbe_cover_Page_1__78946.1473777575.380.500.jpg?c=2]
   [4]La Superbe
   shop.gamutmusic.com
   /
   >   2. [5]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVzgYxzihkM
   >
   >
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References

   1. http://shop.gamutmusic.com/la-superbe-digital-download/
   2. http://shop.gamutmusic.com/la-superbe/
   3. http://shop.gamutmusic.com/la-superbe/
   4. http://shop.gamutmusic.com/la-superbe/
   5. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVzgYxzihkM
   6. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: fronimo - windows 10

[David Smith]

I have run it but not extensively.
David

Sent from my iPhone

 On Aug 24, 2015, at 2:00 PM, Jerzy Żak jurek...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Does anyone know if Fronimo v.3.0.14.95 (of 2014) works on Windows 10? Im 
 about to buy that version of OS — shell I?
 
 Thanks,
 J
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[LUTE] Re: Lamicintadorada

[David Smith]

That is strange. I have ordered about 10 straps at various times and they were 
always responsive and provided great service.
David

Sent from my iPad

 On Aug 3, 2015, at 2:00 AM, Mathias Rösel mathias.roe...@t-online.de wrote:
 
 Same here. I ordered two straps from them, but never got an answer, not even
 after I requested confirmation of my order. Don't they want to do business?
 
 Mathias
 
 
 
 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
 Von: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Im Auftrag
 von Georges de Lucenay
 Gesendet: Donnerstag, 23. Juli 2015 15:21
 An: 'LuteNet list'
 Betreff: [LUTE] Lamicintadorada
 
   Ce site est tres mysterieux : comment faire pour commander un de leurs
   articles !?
   J'avais fait une tentative il y a des mois, en utilisant leur mail, en
   ecrivant en espagnol, sans obtenir de reponse. Je viens de recidiver ce
   matin sans trop d'espoir. Quelqu'un a t il reussi `a leur acheter un
   strap?
   C'est dommage car cela a l'air assez bien fait
   Georges
 
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[LUTE] Dallis Manuscript

[David Smith]

   It appears they have updated the manuscript. I received an email from
   them earlier today and am downloading it now from
   [1]http://digitalcollections.tcd.ie/home/index.php?folder_id=1373pidto
   page=MS410_001entry_point=1.


   Regards

   David

   --

References

   1. 
http://digitalcollections.tcd.ie/home/index.php?folder_id=1373pidtopage=MS410_001entry_point=1


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[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: herzlich tut mich verlangen

[David Smith]

Is this what you were looking for?
David

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[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: herzlich tut mich verlangen

[David Smith]

Sent directly.
David

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From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf
Of David Smith
Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2015 7:32 PM
To: 'Robert Barto' r.ba...@gmx.de; baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: herzlich tut mich verlangen

Is this what you were looking for?
David

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[LUTE] Re: Lute Strap

[David Smith]

I buy them from La mi Cinta Dorades: http://lamicintadorada.blogspot.com 
I have them for renaissance lutes, baroque lutes, and baroque guitars. They
are very nice. I believe these are the ones that Paul is using - at least I
asked him about it at one point and these were the response. He refers to it
as his new Spanish strap.

Regards
David

-Original Message-
From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf
Of Charles Mokotoff
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 1:07 PM
To: LuteNet list lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [LUTE] Lute Strap

   Does anyone know where I could get this strap that Paul O'Dette is
   referring to in this interview?
   [1]https://youtu.be/tQ5vltWA0IY?t=15m27s
   I have tried jury-rigging something similar but it isn't working all
   that well for me. My lute looks about the same size as the instrument
   Paul is holding.
   Thanks for any words of wisdom on this, I've been wanting to sit
   differently for some time.

   --

References

   1. https://youtu.be/tQ5vltWA0IY?t=15m27s


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[LUTE] Re: Thistlewaite Manuscript (Edinburgh University Library, Ms.Dc.5.125)

[David Smith]

Take a look at http://www.dolcesfogato.com/Music/.
I just finished uploading a PDF of the complete Thistlewaite Manuscript.

Regards
David



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[LUTE] Questions for Monica

[David Smith]

   Thank you so much for the Corbetta work. I am looking forward to
   reading it.


   I have a couple of unrelated questions.


   I purchased a copy of Amat: Guitarra Espanola published by Chanterelle
   editions. I find that title page, the dedications and most of section 1
   are missing. I see that you were involved with this. Was this
   intentional or did I just get a bad print?


   Also, what do you use for creating mixed alfabetto and punteado
   tablature? I have seens some discussion on this in the past but it
   seemed like there were no good solutions.


   Best Regards

   David

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[LUTE] Re: Questions for Monica

[David Smith]

Wow. It is missing a whole section. I guess they are selling rejects. I
bought it through Amazon and supplied by Imagine-this. I guess I go back to
them and ask for a complete copy.

It does have an historical notes section at the end which is 18 pages long. 
Thanks for the confirmation and information.
Regards
David

-Original Message-
From: Monica Hall [mailto:mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk] 
Sent: Saturday, July 4, 2015 11:46 AM
To: David Smith
Cc: Lutelist
Subject: Re: [LUTE] Questions for Monica

Hi David
Re: Amat
It sounds as if a whole section of the book is missing.  It should have ...
A short title page for the facsimile
An Introduction by me running to 12 pages unnumbered - in English.
The facsimile then starts with the title page followed by Carta del Padre
Meastro Fray Leonardo which =  2 pages Al lector - Amat's letter to the
reader = 2 pages This is followed by 3 sonetos - one page for each.
Then chapter 1 of the actual book starts on p.1.
I wonder where you got it from.  I thought the book was now out of print.

The programme which I use for Italian tablature with alfabeto is Django. 
It worked reasonably well but was limited. I haven't used it for some time
now and I haven't downloaded any of the updates for several years.
Alain Veylit was a one point interested in developing this aspect but I
don't where he is at with it now.
Best wishes
Monica



- Original Message -
From: David Smith d...@dolcesfogato.com
To: Lute List lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2015 6:08 PM
Subject: [LUTE] Questions for Monica


   Thank you so much for the Corbetta work. I am looking forward to
   reading it.


   I have a couple of unrelated questions.


   I purchased a copy of Amat: Guitarra Espanola published by Chanterelle
   editions. I find that title page, the dedications and most of section 1
   are missing. I see that you were involved with this. Was this
   intentional or did I just get a bad print?


   Also, what do you use for creating mixed alfabetto and punteado
   tablature? I have seens some discussion on this in the past but it
   seemed like there were no good solutions.


   Best Regards

   David

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[LUTE] Re: Improvising Baroque Music

[David Smith]

Seems like the original link is strongly related to Jazz. The person doing
the video is a jazz musician. The site it is sold on is dedicated to Jazz.
So, it is not unnatural to draw a link between the topic of baroque
improvisation and jazz improvisation. Steve Heberman has clearly done that.
Of course it is a different language than jazz but seems highly related in
thought process and technique.

I was wondering what you thought of Gaspar Sanz's Instrucción de Música with
respect to this topic. He seems to spend a fair amount of time on both
figured bass and on harmonic transitions that is intended to be used for
improvising on the baroque guitar. At least this is something written by a
person in the period for a related instrument.

Regards
David

-Original Message-
From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf
Of Rob MacKillop
Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 7:52 AM
To: David van Ooijen
Cc: LuteNet list
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Improvising Baroque Music

   Again, David, it's not about doing jazz or being influenced by mass.
   Steve just happens to be a jazz player. But he is on our territory,
   and getting amazing results by applying a few concepts and principles.
   Forget jazz - this topic has nothing to do with it.
   Rob

   On 1 July 2015 at 15:27, David van Ooijen [1]davidvanooi...@gmail.com
   wrote:

I enjoy improvising continuo and I enjoy improvising jazz. But I
 find
when I mix these I tend to bring in style elements from one to
 the
other. That's not always appreciated.   In Renaissance music I
 enjoy
improvising short   solo pieces, nothing big, nothing serious but
something appropriate   for the spot in the programme. I enjoy
 the
freedom and the spontaneity. Results vary, obviously, but improve
 with
practise.
David
On Wednesday, July 1, 2015, Rob MacKillop
 [1][2]robmackil...@gmail.com
wrote:
 I've long thought that there was something missing from the
 way
  most of
 us learn to play baroque music, whether on lute or guitar.
 Some
  of us
 have studied figured bass playing, it's something I
 particularly
 enjoyed doing, though I haven't done any for years. But
 rarely do
  we
 step beyond that practice, and I believe that only a very,
 very
  small
 percentage of us are happy improvising baroque counterpoint
 in Dm
 tuning.
 I was fascinated to learn that one of my jazz guitar heroes,
  Steve
 Herberman, teaches a class online called Going For Baroque.
 You
  have to
 buy the class, but an overview video is available:
 [1][2][3]http://youtu.be/u9oZ5Us0sfQ
 It would be really interesting to transfer his approach to
 the Dm
  lute.
 One would really get to know the instrument and tuning well,
 and
 discover many contrapuntal finger movements which could be
 used
  in
 improvising fugues or dance movements.
 I'd like to know your thoughts after watching the video.
 Rob MacKillop
 [2][3][4]www.robmackillop.net
 --
  References
 1. [4][5]http://youtu.be/u9oZ5Us0sfQ
 2. [5][6]http://www.robmackillop.net/
  To get on or off this list see list information at
  [6][7]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
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***
David van Ooijen
[7][8]davidvanooi...@gmail.com
[8][9]www.davidvanooijen.nl
***
--
 References
1. mailto:[10]robmackil...@gmail.com
2. [11]http://youtu.be/u9oZ5Us0sfQ
3. [12]http://www.robmackillop.net/
4. [13]http://youtu.be/u9oZ5Us0sfQ
5. [14]http://www.robmackillop.net/
6. [15]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
7. mailto:[16]davidvanooi...@gmail.com
8. [17]http://www.davidvanooijen.nl/

   --

References

   1. mailto:davidvanooi...@gmail.com
   2. mailto:robmackil...@gmail.com
   3. http://youtu.be/u9oZ5Us0sfQ
   4. http://www.robmackillop.net/
   5. http://youtu.be/u9oZ5Us0sfQ
   6. http://www.robmackillop.net/
   7. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
   8. mailto:davidvanooi...@gmail.com
   9. http://www.davidvanooijen.nl/
  10. mailto:robmackil...@gmail.com
  11. http://youtu.be/u9oZ5Us0sfQ
  12. http://www.robmackillop.net/
  13. http://youtu.be/u9oZ5Us0sfQ
  14. http://www.robmackillop.net/
  15. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
  16. mailto:davidvanooi...@gmail.com
  17. http://www.davidvanooijen.nl/

[LUTE] Re: Improvising Baroque Music

[David Smith]

Thank you Rob for both of these links. They look quite interesting. I have
looked at the All Things Baroque and am going through the class he sells and
look forward to going through the Ted Greene material as well.
Improvisation is my current edge to get through and this is very timely.

Regards
David


-Original Message-
From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf
Of Rob MacKillop
Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 5:58 AM
To: LuteNet list
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Improvising Baroque Music

   Not to forget the great Ted Greene: [1]http://youtu.be/Zkuo2384ZN4

   Rob
   [2]www.robmackillop.net

   On 1 Jul 2015, at 13:49, Rob MacKillop [3]robmackil...@gmail.com
   wrote:

 I've long thought that there was something missing from the way most
   of
 us learn to play baroque music, whether on lute or guitar. Some of us
 have studied figured bass playing, it's something I particularly
 enjoyed doing, though I haven't done any for years. But rarely do we
 step beyond that practice, and I believe that only a very, very small
 percentage of us are happy improvising baroque counterpoint in Dm
 tuning.
 I was fascinated to learn that one of my jazz guitar heroes, Steve
 Herberman, teaches a class online called Going For Baroque. You have
   to
 buy the class, but an overview video is available:
 [1][4]http://youtu.be/u9oZ5Us0sfQ
 It would be really interesting to transfer his approach to the Dm
   lute.
 One would really get to know the instrument and tuning well, and
 discover many contrapuntal finger movements which could be used in
 improvising fugues or dance movements.
 I'd like to know your thoughts after watching the video.
 Rob MacKillop
 [2][5]www.robmackillop.net
 --
   References
 1. [6]http://youtu.be/u9oZ5Us0sfQ
 2. [7]http://www.robmackillop.net/
   To get on or off this list see list information at
   [8]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

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References

   1. http://youtu.be/Zkuo2384ZN4
   2. http://www.robmackillop.net/
   3. mailto:robmackil...@gmail.com
   4. http://youtu.be/u9oZ5Us0sfQ
   5. http://www.robmackillop.net/
   6. http://youtu.be/u9oZ5Us0sfQ
   7. http://www.robmackillop.net/
   8. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Off to the Baroque

[David Smith]

Hi Nancy,

Dd.4.22 is available here:
http://cudl.lib.cam.ac.uk/view/MS-DD-4-00022/1

Also, can you let us know how to get Trinity O.16.2 from the LSA library? I
cannot find it in the microfilm catalog.

Regards
David

-Original Message-
From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf
Of Nancy Carlin
Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 10:21 AM
To: Omer Katzir; List LUTELIST
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Off to the Baroque

I have spent the last couple of years exploring 10 course music.  There are
some really nice pieces from the Rettenwert manuscript available on my
Grounds and Divisions web site at

http://groundsanddivisions.info/rettenwert.html

My other favorite manuscripts are:

ML Lute Book - it used to be called the Sturt Lute Book and is a great
source of info on right hand fingering and ornaments. It is available on
Sarge Gerbode's web site at

http://gerbode.net/facsimiles/british_library/BL_MS_Add_38539_john_sturt_lut
e_book/

Dd.4.22 - also English music with lots of ornaments You can get this one
from the LSA Microfilm Library

Trinity O.16.2 - More English music with some unusual ornament signs. I
borrowed a digital version from the LSA Microfilm Library

Nancy



 Guitar - Check
 Renaissance Lute - Check
 Baroque - todo
 Had an amazing recital with Francesca, my very sexy 7 course. Luis
 Milan, Francesco de Milano, Dalza Nuesidler and more, was a great
 fun.A
 Now it is time to put my 10 course into use (until now I just played
 for myself with her) I have couple of pieces, well, only 3 pieces
 really (all others are by Ballard) Including Passacallie by Gallot and
 two preludes by Mertel. So of course I will like your recommendation
 again, which pieces do you think will be great for first time
 performing with 10 course, and people can connect to (This specific
 group of people never heard a lute before, or early music before I
 came)A
 So thank you all again!
 --
 Omer Katzir
 The Silent Troubadour
 [1]http://omerkatzir.com

 --

 References

 1. http://omerkatzir.com/


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PO Box 6499
Concord, CA 94524
USA
925 / 686-5800

www.groundsanddivisions.info
www.nancycarlinassociates.com

[LUTE] Re: Saturday morning quotes - musicality

[David Smith]

Check out: http://www.djangobooks.com/Category/guitar_ebooks

It has a copy of the George Van Eps method you can purchase as well as many
other interesting items.

Regards
David

-Original Message-
From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf
Of Dan Winheld
Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2015 2:31 PM
To: Rob MacKillop; Ron Andrico
Cc: lute-cs.dartmouth.edu List
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Saturday morning quotes - musicality

Alright, alright- I'm not sayin' nuthin- but I never knew G. van Eps had a
method; is it easily found/avialable via the google? He's a hero of mine
because of the 7 string business. Love my 7 string steel-string, and am
annoyed that my classical is only 6.

DAN

On 3/14/2015 12:27 PM, Rob MacKillop wrote:
 Can I call a halt to this now? I appreciate it, but enough already!

 Everyone get back to work...

 Rob

 www.robmackillop.net

 On 14 Mar 2015, at 19:15, Edward Martin edvihuel...@gmail.com wrote:

Ron,
That was a tremendous tribute to Rob, ad I cannot think of a person
more deserving of it.A  I visited Rob for a few days last summer, and
he was enthusiastic, kind, a wonderful person and fantastic musician.A
I cannot say enough good things about him.
ed

On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Christopher Stetson
[1]christophertstet...@gmail.com wrote:

A  A Thanks, Ron, for your observations, and a hearty confirmation of
all
A  A you say about Rob.
A  A Be well, everyone, and keep playing.
A  A Chris.
A  A On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 12:37 PM, Rob MacKillop
A  A [1][2]robmackil...@gmail.com wrote:
A  A  A Ha. Thanks to Ron for that surprise. Right back at you, sir!
A  A  A Lang may your lum reek - long may there be smoke coming from
your
A  A  A chimney :-)
A  A  A Rob
A  A  A [2][3]www.robmackillop.net
A  A  On 14 Mar 2015, at 16:14, Rockford Mjos
[3][4]rockype...@comcast.net
A  A wrote:
A  A 
A  A  I also raise my glass to Rob a to his musicianship and
countless
A  A contributions!
A  A 
A  A  (Though I'm not sure what a reeking lum might be.)
A  A 
A  A  a Rocky
A  A 
A  A  On Mar 14, 2015, at 9:51 AM, Ron Andrico
[4][5]praelu...@hotmail.com
A  A wrote:
A  A 
A  A AA  We have posted our Saturday morning quote, this week from
the
A  A Burwell
A  A AA  manuscript extolling the virtues of a particular musician.
A  A AA  [1][5][6]http://wp.me/p15OyV-186
A  A AA  Ron  Donna
A  A 
A  A AA  --
A  A 
A  A  References
A  A 
A  A AA  1. [6][7]http://wp.me/p15OyV-186
A  A 
A  A 
A  A  To get on or off this list see list information at
A  A  [7][8]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
A  A 
A  A 
A  A 
A  A --
References
A  A 1. mailto:[9]robmackil...@gmail.com
A  A 2. [10]http://www.robmackillop.net/
A  A 3. mailto:[11]rockype...@comcast.net
A  A 4. mailto:[12]praelu...@hotmail.com
A  A 5. [13]http://wp.me/p15OyV-186
A  A 6. [14]http://wp.me/p15OyV-186
A  A 7. [15]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

--

 References

1. mailto:christophertstet...@gmail.com
2. mailto:robmackil...@gmail.com
3. http://www.robmackillop.net/
4. mailto:rockype...@comcast.net
5. mailto:praelu...@hotmail.com
6. http://wp.me/p15OyV-186
7. http://wp.me/p15OyV-186
8. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
9. mailto:robmackil...@gmail.com
   10. http://www.robmackillop.net/
   11. mailto:rockype...@comcast.net
   12. mailto:praelu...@hotmail.com
   13. http://wp.me/p15OyV-186
   14. http://wp.me/p15OyV-186
   15. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Tombeau de Mazarin

[David Smith]

I have had a report that someone had trouble downloading the files.

I split the file into a different section per tuning. The largest file is still 
over 600MB (F Major was popular).

Please see the site at: http://www.dolcesfogato.com/Music/

I would recommend NOT clicking on these items (even the split ones) and loading 
it into your browser. They are big.

My recommendation is to click on the link with the right mouse button (assuming 
the default right handed mouse) and selecting Save link as... from the pop-up 
menu. This will then download the file without loading it into the browser. 

The download of the full document takes about an hour as a single download.

Regards
David

-Original Message-
From: David Smith [mailto:d...@dolcesfogato.com] 
Sent: Monday, March 9, 2015 5:11 PM
To: 'Matthew Daillie'; 'Grzegorz Joachimiak'
Cc: 'lute@cs.dartmouth.edu'
Subject: RE: [LUTE] Re: Tombeau de Mazarin

I have downloaded all the images and will have a PDF of the entire document up 
this evening. I hope this is not violating any license agreement but I did not 
see that it did from the website. It will be big.

Regards
David

-Original Message-
From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of 
Matthew Daillie
Sent: Monday, March 9, 2015 1:48 AM
To: Grzegorz Joachimiak
Cc: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Tombeau de Mazarin

OK, I have worked out how to download individual images in JPG format (one has 
to sign-up with a Facebook or Google identity for example). Any way of 
downloading the whole manuscript in one go?

Many thanks

Matthew

On 9 mars 2015, at 00:17, Grzegorz Joachimiak gjoachim...@wp.pl wrote:

 Dear all,
 
 did you hear Tombeau de Mazarin performed by Jan Ci m r? You can listen to it 
 together with short prelude placed before Tombeau and also read short text 
 about it: 
 http://blog.polona.pl/2015/03/ksiega-na-lutnie-prelude-tombeau/
 This is the part of The Book for Lute - project connected with PL-Wn Mus. 396 
 Cim. lute manuscript. 
 
 Grzegorz
 
 --
 Lute in Silesia and in Poland
 http://www.lute.pl
 
 
 
 To get on or off this list see list information at 
 http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Tombeau de Mazarin

[David Smith]

I have downloaded all the images and will have a PDF of the entire document up 
this evening. I hope this is not violating any license agreement but I did not 
see that it did from the website. It will be big.

Regards
David

-Original Message-
From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of 
Matthew Daillie
Sent: Monday, March 9, 2015 1:48 AM
To: Grzegorz Joachimiak
Cc: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Tombeau de Mazarin

OK, I have worked out how to download individual images in JPG format (one has 
to sign-up with a Facebook or Google identity for example). Any way of 
downloading the whole manuscript in one go?

Many thanks

Matthew

On 9 mars 2015, at 00:17, Grzegorz Joachimiak gjoachim...@wp.pl wrote:

 Dear all,
 
 did you hear Tombeau de Mazarin performed by Jan Ci m r? You can listen to it 
 together with short prelude placed before Tombeau and also read short text 
 about it: 
 http://blog.polona.pl/2015/03/ksiega-na-lutnie-prelude-tombeau/
 This is the part of The Book for Lute - project connected with PL-Wn Mus. 396 
 Cim. lute manuscript. 
 
 Grzegorz
 
 --
 Lute in Silesia and in Poland
 http://www.lute.pl
 
 
 
 To get on or off this list see list information at 
 http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Tombeau de Mazarin

[David Smith]

The file is now available at: http://www.dolcesfogato.com/Music/. Look for 
Livre du Luth. It is 2.8GB so be prepared for a wait when downloading.

Regards
David

-Original Message-
From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of 
David Smith
Sent: Monday, March 9, 2015 5:11 PM
To: 'Matthew Daillie'; 'Grzegorz Joachimiak'
Cc: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Tombeau de Mazarin

I have downloaded all the images and will have a PDF of the entire document up 
this evening. I hope this is not violating any license agreement but I did not 
see that it did from the website. It will be big.

Regards
David

-Original Message-
From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of 
Matthew Daillie
Sent: Monday, March 9, 2015 1:48 AM
To: Grzegorz Joachimiak
Cc: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Tombeau de Mazarin

OK, I have worked out how to download individual images in JPG format (one has 
to sign-up with a Facebook or Google identity for example). Any way of 
downloading the whole manuscript in one go?

Many thanks

Matthew

On 9 mars 2015, at 00:17, Grzegorz Joachimiak gjoachim...@wp.pl wrote:

 Dear all,
 
 did you hear Tombeau de Mazarin performed by Jan Ci m r? You can listen to it 
 together with short prelude placed before Tombeau and also read short text 
 about it: 
 http://blog.polona.pl/2015/03/ksiega-na-lutnie-prelude-tombeau/
 This is the part of The Book for Lute - project connected with PL-Wn Mus. 396 
 Cim. lute manuscript. 
 
 Grzegorz
 
 --
 Lute in Silesia and in Poland
 http://www.lute.pl
 
 
 
 To get on or off this list see list information at 
 http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Lute in the Future

[David Smith]

Chris is $295 from his goal with 22 days left. Almost there!

Consider supporting if you haven't. A cost of a few nice dinners out would
get him to his goal!

Regards
David

-Original Message-
From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf
Of Edward Martin
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 9:49 AM
To: Ron Andrico
Cc: Christopher Wilke; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu; Grzegorz Joachimiak
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Lute in the Future

   Thanks for all the interesting posts on this topic.A  Chris, thanks for
   mentioning Tom Walker and me about asking for support with recording
   projects.A  We (Dan Larson of Gamut Music) asked for support in our
   Courante project, and received it!A  Yes, all the things stated are
   true, and it is from the support of others that very deserved,
   meaningful projects can be funded.A  People like you and Ron are doing
   a great service to the art of the lute, by making these presentations.
   Chris, I shall support your new project!
   ed

   On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 7:15 AM, Ron Andrico [1]praelu...@hotmail.com
   wrote:

   A  A Thanks for your thoughtful post, Chris.A  Your project is worthy
   of
   A  A support and you did an excellent job of describing the current
   dilemma
   A  A for recording artists in accurate and diplomatic terms.
   A  A Most people involved in the lute world, whether they are
   first-class
   A  A players like you, or whether they simply enjoy the aesthetic of
   the
   A  A instrument, simply don't even think about what it takes to produce
   a
   A  A recording today.A  It's a different world than the fan club
   approach
   A  A of the past, where top players were easily able to obtain academic
   A  A appointments, research grants, artist representation, and
   recording
   A  A contracts that actually paid for the session work, production,
   A  A distribution and even royalties.
   A  A Today, even the top players (with a few rare exceptions) are
   struggling
   A  A with the cost of making recordings - which are almost always
   A  A self-financed - and even musicians who record for reputable labels
   are
   A  A paid in rather skimpy piles of their own CDs which must be sold
   at
   A  A concerts if they want to make anything at all for their effort.
   A  A Talented amateurs who have piles of the ready can make nice
   A  A recordings without the worry of whether they should reproduce
   several
   A  A cartons of their CD, or whether they should buy a sack of
   groceries
   A  A this week and perhaps even pay the heat bill.
   A  A Again, there is no reason why someone who simply appreciates lute
   music
   A  A should have to think about the nuts and bolts of how their
   favorite
   A  A recordings are made, but we can all be assured that it has nothing
   to
   A  A do with the fairytale myth of merit.A  There are many deserving
   artists
   A  A out there who should be heard and supported, but there is no
   longer a
   A  A viable market model for financing and remuneration - especially
   with
   A  A the unsustainable model of streaming services.A  We have written
   about
   A  A this in the past
   A
   A [1][2]https://mignarda.wordpress.com/2013/01/30/should-listeners-feel
   -guil
   A  A ty-about-using-spotify/ and others have done so more eloquently
   A
   A [2][3]http://thetrichordist.com/2014/10/14/streaming-is-the-future-sp
   otify
   A  A -is-not-lets-talk-solutions/
   A  A Chris, your project deserves the highest level of support - and we
   know
   A  A that the amount you're aiming for is only a fraction of the total
   cost
   A  A of the project.A  You should have people knocking on your door
   asking
   A  A how much you want to make this recording.A  Kickstarter is a step
   in the
   A  A right direction, but as far as I can see the only viable solution
   in
   A  A our niche market is to ask our certain incorporated non-profit
   A  A organizations to stop behaving like fan clubs and make targeted
   funds
   A  A available to energetic and motivated artists for recording
   worthwhile
   A  A projects - and not with limitations so the funds apply only to the
   A  A select few students of the gatekeepers who have been running the
   racket
   A  A for far too long.
   A  A Those of us working class musicians who have been in the biz since
   the
   A  A 70s have watched with dismay how the new business model has
   changed
   A  A what used to be $ for product into you're lucky we pay you
   0.00012
   A  A per stream.A  It's a little frustrating to see monthly reports
   A  A indicating tens of thousands of streams and not making enough to
   cover
   A  A the price of a good meal.
   A  A Anyway, best of luck with your project.
   A  A RA
   A  A  Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 09:21:53 -0800
   A  A  To: [4]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu; [5]gjoachim...@wp.pl
   A  A  From: [6]chriswi...@cs.dartmouth.edu
   A  A  Subject: [LUTE] Lute in the Future
   A  A 
   A  A  Dear Luters,
   

[LUTE] Re: Bach, Prelude from BWV 995

[David Smith]

Beautiful. You play music and not just a succession of notes. Go and sin some 
more!
David

Sent from my iPad

 On Feb 13, 2015, at 6:21 AM, Christopher Wilke chriswi...@cs.dartmouth.edu 
 wrote:
 
 Hello all,
 
Please check out my video of the prelude from Bach's Suite in G minor, BWV 
 995. I've committed the cardinal sins of using a range of colors and dynamics 
 and otherwise neglecting to treat the music as a relic in a museum.
 
   If you decide to give it a thumbs down, you are welcome to do so, but I 
 request that you leave a constructive comment.
 
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJIomMAh9oU
 
 
 Chris
 
 Dr. Christopher Wilke D.M.A.
 Lutenist, Guitarist and Composer
 www.christopherwilke.com
 
 
 
 
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[LUTE] Re: CITES

[David Smith]

Well, it was attached. Try again.
David

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[LUTE] Re: CITES

[David Smith]

The best is to have a list of the woods (by scientific name) in the
instruments, the place where they were harvested, and the weight. That is
what the import forms require for the US. It is up to the customs inspector
if he wants to look at it or not. A bill of sale is always helpful to prove
that you own it.

Having said that I have been lucky and never had a problem with coming into
the US. If I was bringing in something new I made sure to have the Lacey Act
forms (copy attached).

Regards
David

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From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf
Of Bruno Figueiredo
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2015 12:01 PM
To: List LUTELIST
Subject: [LUTE] CITES

   Anyone could give advice about traveling with lutes and the CITES
   convention. What is exactly required to travel safe with our
   instruments. What do we need to prove and how?A
   Any help welcomed!
   --
   Bruno Figueiredo
   A
   Pesquisador autA'nomo da prA!tica e interpretaAS:A-L-o
   historicamente informada no alaA-ode e teorba.
   Doutor em PrA!ticas InterpretativasA pela
   Universidade Federal do Estado do Rio de Janeiro.

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[LUTE] Re: CITES

[David Smith]

No PDFs. Blah. Here is the link:
http://www.aphis.usda.gov/plant_health/lacey_act/downloads/declarationform.p
df
David



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[LUTE] Re: Cul manuscripts available as bounded Pdfs to download

[David Smith]

Thank you so much. I started the same thing but did not have time.

Regards
David

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From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf
Of Matteo Turri
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2015 9:25 AM
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [LUTE] Cul manuscripts available as bounded Pdfs to download

   Dear Colleagues,
   I have (bulk)-downloaded all pictures of the Cambridge lute manuscripts
   (site below) and bound them together in nice pdfs.
   Since I have not changed the resolution, some of them are quite big
   (Dd.2.11: 263 MB).
   You can get them from my Google drive:
   [1]http://goo.gl/r2s8cz
   As the original pictures, they are licensed under a Creative Commons
   Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License (CC BY-NC 3.0)
   Enjoy
   Matteo
   [2]http://cudl.lib.cam.ac.uk/collections/music
   P.S. Can someone send this message to the Ning Lutegroup? Thanks!
   On 22 January 2015 at 03:56, stephen arndt
   [3]stephenwar...@verizon.net wrote:

 Try this: [4]http://cudl.lib.cam.ac.uk/collections/music . As far as
 I can tell, though, for any given manuscript you have to download
 one page at a time. After an intense 120 seconds of looking, I
 didn't find a way to download an entire manuscript. Perhaps someone
 else can enlighten us.
 -Original Message- From: Stephen Fryer
 Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 8:02 PM
 To: Lute List
 Subject: [LUTE] Re: Cambridge goes on-line.

   On 21/01/2015 4:42 PM, Robert Clair wrote:

 [5]http://www.cam.ac.uk/research/news/crown-jewels-of-english-lute-m
 usic-go-online?utm_medium=emailutm_source=alumnewsletter
 [6]http://www.cam.ac.uk/research/news/crown-jewels-of-english-lute-
 music-go-online?utm_medium=emailutm_source=alumnewsletter
 Apologies if someone already posted this.
 A-c-aNOTA|Bob

   Is there a URL somewhere to access the collection?
   Stephen Fryer
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References

   1. http://goo.gl/r2s8cz
   2. http://cudl.lib.cam.ac.uk/collections/music
   3. mailto:stephenwar...@verizon.net
   4. http://cudl.lib.cam.ac.uk/collections/music
   5.
http://www.cam.ac.uk/research/news/crown-jewels-of-english-lute-music-go-onl
ine?utm_medium=emailutm_source=alumnewsletter
   6.
http://www.cam.ac.uk/research/news/crown-jewels-of-english-lute-music-go-onl
ine?utm_medium=emailutm_source=alumnewsletter
   7. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Recordings of Germain Pinel and Robert de Visée.

[David Smith]

And is very nice!
David

-Original Message-
From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of 
Anthony Hind
Sent: Wednesday, January 7, 2015 10:21 AM
To: lute-cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [LUTE] Recordings of Germain Pinel and Robert de Visée.

   Dear lutenists
  A copy of Miguel Yisrael's latest recording les rois de
   versailles, signed by the lutenist, can now be ordered directly on his
   web site at
   [1]http://www.miguelyisrael.com/index.php/works/discography
   It focusses on the lute music of two French composers, Germain Pinel
   (whose music has rarely been recorded) and Robert de Visee.
   Best wishes for the new year
   Anthony
   Sent from my iPhone

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   1. http://www.miguelyisrael.com/index.php/works/discography


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[LUTE] Re: For your relaxation pleasure

[David Smith]

Thank you Ed. That was a beautiful experience to wake up to. Sets the mood for 
my day.
David

Sent from my iPad

 On Nov 8, 2014, at 6:44 AM, Ed Durbrow edurb...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 On Nov 8, 2014, at 11:38 PM, r.turov...@gmail.com wrote:
 miscoded URL...
 RT
 
 
 I hate when that happens. Thanks for letting me know. I copied it from 
 YouTube but it definitely is different. Hopefully, this is correct: 
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3u3jL_NgX0feature=youtu.be
 
 
 Ed Durbrow
 Saitama, Japan
 http://www.youtube.com/user/edurbrow?feature=watch
 https://soundcloud.com/ed-durbrow
 http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/
 
 
 
 
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[LUTE] Re: Marco dall'Aquila edition

[David Smith]

Matthew,
The dropbox link would be appreciated as well.
Regards
David

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From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf
Of AJN
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 1:12 PM
To: dail...@club-internet.fr; arthurjn...@verizon.net; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Marco dall'Aquila edition

Dear Matthew,
   I have a new site for the Marco edition, but it will not be available
   for a month or so.  In the meantime it would be a wonderful stopgap to
   have
   the edition made available through DropBox.  But on the new site it
   will be easy to have everything in one place.
   It was a real bummer for Verizon to drop their web sites.  Surely many
   persons who use the space commercially were probably hurt.
   Thank you very much for your assistance, Matthew!!!
   Best regards, Arthur.


   On 10/17/14, Matthew Dailliedail...@club-internet.fr wrote:

   I have had several requests for a DropBox link, I would just like
   Arthur's approval before sending it to people.
   Best
   Matthew
   On 17 oct. 2014, at 09:20, Matthew Daillie
   [1]dail...@club-internet.fr wrote:
Too large a folder to send by mail but I can upload to DropBox if
   nobody else has sent it to you in the meantime.
   
Best
   
Matthew
   
   
On 17 oct. 2014, at 01:08, [2]al...@signtracks.com wrote:
   
Darn, I am seeing this bit of information a little too late... Did
   someone download this precious material who might be willing to send me
   a copy by email(s)??
Alain
   
On 2014-09-28 13:42, AJN wrote:
From: AJN
Date: Sep 28, 2014 3:36:58 PM
Subject: Re: Marco dall'Aquila edition
To: [3]arthurjn...@verizon.net, [4]lute-requ...@cs.dartmouth.edu
I must sadly report that my ISP, verizon.com, has cancelled all its
personal web pages, as of September 30th.
So if you have an interest in Marco's music, you have a short while
   to
download pieces (Italian tablature and grand staff transcriptions).
   You
may know of CDs by Chris Wilson, Paul O'Dette and Sando Volta.
I completed the edition some time ago, but it was a hassle to get
   it
onto the web page, so only a portion of the edition is there. As
   for
another venue, that is an open question.
Surely I'll let you know. Marco is such a fine composer, perhaps
   the
most important predecessor to Francesco. You may know of Marco CDs
   by
Chris Wilson, Paul O'Dette and Sandro Volta.
[1][5]http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepq31c/marcodallaquila/
The other scores (the Sinfonia, Lawes consort and Daube pieces)
   will go
to ISMLP.
References
1. [6]http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepq31c/marcodallaquila/
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References

   1. mailto:dail...@club-internet.fr
   2. mailto:al...@signtracks.com
   3. mailto:arthurjn...@verizon.net
   4. mailto:lute-requ...@cs.dartmouth.edu
   5. http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepq31c/marcodallaquila/
   6. http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepq31c/marcodallaquila/
   7. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/

[LUTE] Re: Scottish pieces

[David Smith]

The Ronn McFarlane is available for Electronic copy at 
http://www.melbay.com/Products/96693/the-scottish-lute.aspx .
David

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From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of 
Geoff Gaherty
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 4:49 PM
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Scottish pieces

On 2014-09-17, 5:50 PM, Hanna Klosinska wrote:
 I'm a renaissance lute player from Warsaw, Poland, a student of Mr
 Anton Birula. Quite soon, in about a month, I'll be playing a concert
 on a conference devoted to Scottish position in Europe, organised by
 Warsaw University ([1]http://www.scotlandineurope.angli.uw.edu.pl/). In
 order of that, I would like to play also some Scottish renaissance
 works. Unfortunately, I couldn't find any tablatures neither in music
 bookshops in Poland nor on the internet (the only music sheet I have
 found were some simple pieces by John Skene, composed on 5-string
 mandora). If you could be so kind and, by chance, be able to help me in
 any way, please let me know.

There is a large amount of Scottish lute music, edited in two volumes by Ronn 
McFarlane, published by Mel Bay.  Mostly these come from Scottish manuscripts 
in the first few decades of the 17th century, though there are two pieces from 
the Jane Pickering manuscript.

Here is a public domain source (but without tablatures) for the Skene ms., 
which contains some pieces in lute tuning as well as mandora:

https://archive.org/details/ancientscotishme00daun

Geoff

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[LUTE] Re: Scottish pieces

[David Smith]

And check out the Downloads tab on the page.
David

-Original Message-
From: David Smith [mailto:d...@dolcesfogato.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 7:16 PM
To: 'Geoff Gaherty'; 'lute@cs.dartmouth.edu'
Subject: RE: [LUTE] Re: Scottish pieces

The Ronn McFarlane is available for Electronic copy at 
http://www.melbay.com/Products/96693/the-scottish-lute.aspx .
David

-Original Message-
From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of 
Geoff Gaherty
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 4:49 PM
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Scottish pieces

On 2014-09-17, 5:50 PM, Hanna Klosinska wrote:
 I'm a renaissance lute player from Warsaw, Poland, a student of Mr
 Anton Birula. Quite soon, in about a month, I'll be playing a concert
 on a conference devoted to Scottish position in Europe, organised by
 Warsaw University ([1]http://www.scotlandineurope.angli.uw.edu.pl/). In
 order of that, I would like to play also some Scottish renaissance
 works. Unfortunately, I couldn't find any tablatures neither in music
 bookshops in Poland nor on the internet (the only music sheet I have
 found were some simple pieces by John Skene, composed on 5-string
 mandora). If you could be so kind and, by chance, be able to help me in
 any way, please let me know.

There is a large amount of Scottish lute music, edited in two volumes by Ronn 
McFarlane, published by Mel Bay.  Mostly these come from Scottish manuscripts 
in the first few decades of the 17th century, though there are two pieces from 
the Jane Pickering manuscript.

Here is a public domain source (but without tablatures) for the Skene ms., 
which contains some pieces in lute tuning as well as mandora:

https://archive.org/details/ancientscotishme00daun

Geoff

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Foxmead Observatory
Coldwater, Ontario, Canada
http://www.gaherty.ca
http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/



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[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi complete lute works

[David Smith]

Try 
http://www.fondazionearcadia.org/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=108%3Aconcerti-e-trii-per-liuto-e-mandolino-catid=50%3Acatalogo-pubblicazioniItemid=72lang=en
David

Sent from my iPad

 On Sep 4, 2014, at 5:13 AM, Mumin Lute lutenist.mumin.ko...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   Dear collective wisdom of lutenists,
 
   Could anyone let me know where I can get this publication?
   [1]http://issuu.com/emotiv/docs/vivaldidemo
 
   I found this thread in the mail-archive but the last question does not
   seem to be answered yet.
 
   [2]https://www.mail-archive.com/lute%40cs.dartmouth.edu/msg37280.htm
 
   regards,
 
   Tomoko Koide
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 References
 
   1. http://issuu.com/emotiv/docs/vivaldidemo
   2. https://www.mail-archive.com/lute%40cs.dartmouth.edu/msg37280.htm
 
 
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[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi complete lute works

[David Smith]

Or 
http://www.alle-noten.de/en/Trii-E-Concerti-per-Liuto-Sheet-Music-MK18406-Carisch/c9lqiriu
 to purchase

Sent from my iPad

 On Sep 4, 2014, at 7:41 AM, David Smith d...@dolcesfogato.com wrote:
 
 Try 
 http://www.fondazionearcadia.org/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=108%3Aconcerti-e-trii-per-liuto-e-mandolino-catid=50%3Acatalogo-pubblicazioniItemid=72lang=en
 David
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On Sep 4, 2014, at 5:13 AM, Mumin Lute lutenist.mumin.ko...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
  Dear collective wisdom of lutenists,
 
  Could anyone let me know where I can get this publication?
  [1]http://issuu.com/emotiv/docs/vivaldidemo
 
  I found this thread in the mail-archive but the last question does not
  seem to be answered yet.
 
  [2]https://www.mail-archive.com/lute%40cs.dartmouth.edu/msg37280.htm
 
  regards,
 
  Tomoko Koide
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  1. http://issuu.com/emotiv/docs/vivaldidemo
  2. https://www.mail-archive.com/lute%40cs.dartmouth.edu/msg37280.htm
 
 
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[LUTE] Re: Baroquelute test

[David Smith]

And where would we find this? I find navigating IMSLP to find this
frustrating. Suggestions?
David

-Original Message-
From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf
Of Anton Höger
Sent: Monday, September 1, 2014 1:33 AM
To: Lutelist List
Subject: [LUTE] Baroquelute test

hi,

I will test a Baroquelute Intabulation. (You know I don’t play)

Will anybody test it, if the Intabulation is correct?

It is a A. Scarlatti piece for Soprano and Baroquelute.


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[BAROQUE-LUTE] [BAROQUE-LUTE] The Grüssau manuscript collection (including the Parties for 2 baroque lutes)

[David Smith]

Actually my pages also have the official link. I just made them accessible as 
PDF which was not available from the official link.
David

Sent from my iPad

 On Aug 24, 2014, at 2:44 AM, Markus Lutz mar...@gmlutz.de wrote:
 
 Dear lute-friends, dear Luca,
 and also you will find (and would have find ;-) ) the link on the baroque 
 lute manuscripts page of Peter Steur and me, where we also include all 
 official links on online manuscripts:
 http://mss.lute.de/
 
 And for the 2 duo manuscripts in Warsaw:
 http://mss.slweiss.de/index.php?id=1type=msms=PL-Wu2001alang=eng
 http://mss.slweiss.de/index.php?id=1type=msms=PL-Wu2001blang=eng
 
 Best regards
 Markus
 
 
 Am 24.08.2014 um 11:30 schrieb Luca Manassero:
Dear Kakinami-san,
thank you! I am guilty to have forgotten to check your greatly
maintained list first.
All the best,
Luca
T.Kakinami on 24/08/14 04:07 wrote:
 
 Hello Luca and List,
 
 About works of Gruessau, Uniwersity of Warsaw Library's original site is,
 
 [1]http://ebuw.uw.edu.pl/dlibra/results?action=SearchActionskipSearch=truemdi
 rids=1server%3Atype=bothtempQueryType=-3encodelseisExpandable=onisRe
 mote=offroleId=-3queryType=-3dirids=1rootid=query=Gr%C3%BCssaulocalQue
 ryType=-3remoteQueryType=-2
 
 or my site,
 
 [2]http://kakitoshilute.blogspot.jp/2014/03/biblioteka-uniwersytetu-warszawskie
 go.html
 
 
 **
   Toshiaki Kakinami
   E-mail  : [3]tk...@orchid.plala.or.jp
   Blog: [4]http://kakitoshilute.blogspot.com/
   Facebook: [5]https://www.facebook.com/kakinami.toshiaki
 **
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [6]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [[7]mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On 
 Beha
 lf
 Of Luca Manassero
 Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 10:13 PM
 To: [8]l...@cs.dartmouth.edu
 Subject: [LUTE] The Gruessau manuscript collection (including the Parties
 for 2 baroque lutes)
 
Dear List,
since many years I was looking for the Parties `a deux Luths that
I had heard in a very dated recording of Narciso Yepes and Godelieve
Monden. I had then learned that the music came from manuscript PL - Wu
RM 4135, but the only way to find it had been to order the (partial)
edition for two baroque lutes (11 course) edited by Gusta Goldschmidt
back in 1990 for the Dutch Lute Society
([1][9]http://www.nederlandseluitvereniging.nl/).
Today I (finally!) found the fac-simile on the web: in fact the whole
manuscripts collection from the Gruessau Abbey (today Krzeszow), now
held at the Warsaw University Library, is available at this address:
[2][10]http://www.dolcesfogato.com/Music/.
The two books of the Parties `a deux Luths (which include two
transcriptions of Parties of Mr. Melante, possibly Georg Philipp
Telemann) can then be downloaded at:
- (1st lute)

 [3][11]http://www.dolcesfogato.com/Music/Baroque_lute/Mf%202001a%20RM%20413
5a.pdf
- (2nd lute)

 [4][12]http://www.dolcesfogato.com/Music/Baroque_lute/Mf%202001b%20RM%20413
5b.pdf
In case you'd like to learn a bit more about the Gruessau (Krzeszow)
Mss. collection, I'd suggest a recent article by Tomasz Jez, Institute
of Musicology, University of Warsaw, freely available on academia.edu

 ([5][13]http://www.academia.edu/1439977/Some_Remarks_About_the_Provenance_o
f_the_Lute_Tablatures_from_Grussau_Krzeszow)
Have a great weekend,
Luca
 
 References
 
1. [14]http://www.nederlandseluitvereniging.nl/
2. [15]http://www.dolcesfogato.com/Music/
3.
 [16]http://www.dolcesfogato.com/Music/Baroque_lute/Mf%202001a%20RM%204135a.pdf
4.
 [17]http://www.dolcesfogato.com/Music/Baroque_lute/Mf%202001b%20RM%204135b.pdf
5.
 [18]http://www.academia.edu/1439977/Some_Remarks_About_the_Provenance_of_the_Lut
 e_Tablatures_from_Grussau_Krzeszow
 
 
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 References
 
1. 
 http://ebuw.uw.edu.pl/dlibra/results?action=SearchActionskipSearch=truemdi
2. 
 http://kakitoshilute.blogspot.jp/2014/03/biblioteka-uniwersytetu-warszawskie
3. mailto:tk...@orchid.plala.or.jp
4. http://kakitoshilute.blogspot.com/
5. https://www.facebook.com/kakinami.toshiaki
6. mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu
7. mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu
8. mailto:l...@cs.dartmouth.edu
9. http://www.nederlandseluitvereniging.nl/
   10. http://www.dolcesfogato.com/Music/
   11. http://www.dolcesfogato.com/Music/Baroque_lute/Mf%202001a%20RM%20413
   12. http://www.dolcesfogato.com/Music/Baroque_lute/Mf%202001b%20RM%20413
   13. http://www.academia.edu/1439977/Some_Remarks_About_the_Provenance_o
   14. http://www.nederlandseluitvereniging.nl/
   15. http://www.dolcesfogato.com/Music/
   16. 
 http://www.dolcesfogato.com/Music/Baroque_lute/Mf%202001a%20RM%204135a.pdf
   17. 
 

[LUTE] Re: de Bellis lute book now on line!

[David Smith]

It is great that they put this up. It would be even greater if it could be
made available in a readable form that could be played from. I tried using
their viewer and I all get is readable fragments. Has anyone else figured
out how to use this for a playable version? The sight says the material is
in the public domain so there should be no copyright restrictions.

Regards
David

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From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf
Of wbc
Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 3:17 AM
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [LUTE] Re: de Bellis lute book now on line!



Begin forwarded message:

 From: John Robinson j.h.robin...@me.com
 Subject: de Bellis lute book now on line!
 Date: August 23, 2014 at 11:29:01 AM EDT
 
 Dear all
 
 I contacted the San Francisco State University recently to see if they had
considered digitizing the be Bellis lute manuscript [Ms. M2.1 M3 'Ascanio
Bentivoglio . 1615' - one of the best late renaissance Italian manuscripts]
and was pleased to hear that they planned to put it online in their digital
collection - and then received the link yesterday! Not downloadable but
looks good in colour - when you have fiddled about enlarging the images! You
may have seen that I posted details on the Lute Group in Facebook too. And
Chris, can it be included in the 'internet news' paragraph in the next Lute
News as I promised Meredith Eliassen Curator of the Frank V. de Bellis
Collection that I would spread the news?
 

http://digital-collections.library.sfsu.edu/cdm/compoundobject/collection/p1
6737coll4/id/1154/rec/1
 
 Please share distribute and disseminate!
 
 best wishes - John
 


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[LUTE] Re: de Bellis lute book now on line!

[David Smith]

Even on full screen it is pretty poor. The only way I found to get a good image 
is there zoom. But that appears to only do it for part of the page. 
Thanks for the suggestion.
David

Sent from my iPhone

 On Aug 24, 2014, at 10:50 AM, Bernd Haegemann b...@symbol4.de wrote:
 
 On 24.08.2014 18:26, David Smith wrote:
 It is great that they put this up. It would be even greater if it could be
 made available in a readable form that could be played from. I tried using
 their viewer and I all get is readable fragments.
 There is no download option as it seems.
 I would suggest full screen mode, fit the page to the screen, hard copy with 
 Alt+print, try to enhance the contrast of the pic, store it. Next page :-)
 
 best regards
 Bernd



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[LUTE] Re: Thibault MS

[David Smith]

You can order it at
https://order.proquest.com/OA_HTML/pqdtibeCCtpItmDspRte.jsp?item=1424456sit
ex=10020:22372:UStrack=DxWebdlnow=1rpath=http%3A%2F%2Fdissexpress.umi.com
%2Fdxweb%2Fresults.html%3FQryTxt%3D%26By%3DHECTOR%2BSEQUERA%26Title%3D%26pub
num%3D
For $38 and get it immediately. It is a PDF.

Regards
David

-Original Message-
From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf
Of Josef Berger
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 6:58 AM
To: [LUTE]
Subject: [LUTE] Thibault MS

   Dear collective wisdom,
   does somebody of you have access to the thesis of Hector Sequera about
   the Thibault manuscript? Its PDF seems to be available only at the
   University of North Texas...
   [1]http://digital.library.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metadc4652/
   HA(c)ctor J Sequera (2004): Selected Lute Music from Paris, RA(c)s.
   Vmd. Ms. 27 from the BibliothAque Nationale: Reconstruction, Edition,
   and Commentary.
   Best wishes from southern Sweden (which at this very moment feels
   rather than some part of Africa)
   Josef Berger

   --

References

   1. http://digital.library.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metadc4652/


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[LUTE] Re: Belgian radio broadcast in German - 60 min presenting 2 new CDS

[David Smith]

The Django site has the complete manuscript at:
http://lute.musickshandmade.com/facbooks/view/40
You probably have to join to get it.
David

-Original Message-
From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf
Of jean-michel Catherinot
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 5:02 AM
To: Ed Durbrow; Matthew Daillie; LuteNet list
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Belgian radio broadcast in German - 60 min presenting 2
new CDS

   http://www.gerbode.net/composers/MGalilei/v_1_1620/pdf/
   I don't remember where you can find the complete Ms
   Le Vendredi 11 juillet 2014 13h30, Ed Durbrow edurb...@gmail.com a
   A(c)crit :
   Page 54! My copy, an old xerox which my guitar teacher gave me in the
   70s, ends at page 53.
   Dang. How much more is there?
   On Jul 11, 2014, at 7:41 PM, Matthew Daillie
   [1]dail...@club-internet.fr wrote:
The 4th piece (starting at 6'48 in the programme) is the Passamezzo
   from the F minor sonata, which is on page 54 of the facsimile.
   
Best
   
Matthew
   
   
On 11 juil. 2014, at 12:20, Ed Durbrow [2]edurb...@gmail.com wrote:
   
What is the 4th piece he plays? It sounds like a passamezzo in Fm. I
   cannot find it in the 1620 publication. So what is the source for this
   music?
I'm on a Galilei kick myself, at the moment.
Thanks,
   
On Jul 10, 2014, at 6:08 PM, [3]b...@symbol4.de wrote:
   
   
with samples from
   
A.Bailes : M. Galilei
   
Anna Reinhold sings  Th. Dunford plays B. Strozzi,
Monteverdi, Kapsperger
   
   
   
[4]http://brf.be/brf1/klassikzeit/773964/
   
   
Amicalement
Bernd
   
   
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Saitama, Japan
[6]http://www.youtube.com/user/edurbrow?feature=watch
[7]https://soundcloud.com/ed-durbrow
[8]http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/
   
   
   
   
   
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   Ed Durbrow
   Saitama, Japan
   [9]http://www.youtube.com/user/edurbrow?feature=watch
   [10]https://soundcloud.com/ed-durbrow
   [11]http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/

   --

References

   1. mailto:dail...@club-internet.fr
   2. mailto:edurb...@gmail.com
   3. mailto:b...@symbol4.de
   4. http://brf.be/brf1/klassikzeit/773964/
   5. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
   6. http://www.youtube.com/user/edurbrow?feature=watch
   7. https://soundcloud.com/ed-durbrow
   8. http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/
   9. http://www.youtube.com/user/edurbrow?feature=watch
  10. https://soundcloud.com/ed-durbrow
  11. http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/

[LUTE] Re: Kickstarter campaign for Courante recording

[David Smith]

Very nice project. Well worth contributing to. I hope you reach your goal
and encourage others to take a look and contributing as able.
Regards
David

-Original Message-
From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf
Of Edward Martin
Sent: Monday, July 7, 2014 10:50 AM
To: lute net
Subject: [LUTE] Kickstarter campaign for Courante recording

   I am announcing the completion of a long project sponsored by Gamut
   Music, a recording entitled, Courante, which contains French baroque
   lute duets, and this has been a long, challenging project, in terms of
   getting the appropriate instrumentation, appropriate strings, obtaining
   repertoire, producing a high quality video, recording and editing the
   CD. A The recording was made on a matching set of baroque lutes,
   entirely strung in pure gut.
   This project is unique in many ways, as not only is there a high
   quality recording of the performance, the repertoire is seldom
   performed, and it will be available in CD or digital download. A In
   addition, we have produced what we call the interactive project. A Both
   lute parts 1 and 2 have been recorded separately in CD's, along with
   the printed music. A In other words, the baroque lute player will be
   able to read part one while listening to part 2, and vice versa. A We
   have employed the best equipment, and have consulted with many people.
   We are in need of help in releasing this unique package, and we are
   asking for financial support in the form of a Kickstarter campaign.
   A Please see this link for more details, and we appreciate your support
   for this project.
   [1]https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/166049537/courante-french-baroq
   ue-lute-duets
   Thank you,A
   Edward Martin, on behalf of Gamut Music.

   --

References

   1.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/166049537/courante-french-baroque-lute-
duets


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[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: duos with alto recorder /correction

[David Smith]

You might try
http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b90100455.r=guittarre.langEN or
http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b9010050g.r=Livre+de+pi%C3%A8ces+pour+l
a+guittarre.langEN.
I think these are the same.
David

-Original Message-
From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf
Of b...@symbol4.de
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 1:32 AM
To: b...@symbol4.de
Cc: Edgar Aichinger; baroque-lute
Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: duos with alto recorder /correction

   sorry, the original of the 1686 book is here:
   http://www.gerbode.net/facsimiles/de_visee/livre_de_guitarre_v2_1686/


   Gesendet: Montag, 23. Juni 2014 um 10:20 Uhr
   Von: b...@symbol4.de b...@symbol4.de
   An: Edgar Aichinger edgar.aichin...@aon.at, baroque-lute
   baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
   Betreff: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: duos with alto recorder
   Vielen Dank, Edgar!
   Das sieht gut aus!
   The original Visee can be found here:
   [1]http://culture.besancon.fr/ark:/48565/a011290090127TYORuz/1/1
   Gruesse aus Bruessel
   Bernd
   Gesendet: Montag, 23. Juni 2014 um 09:58 Uhr
   Von: Edgar Aichinger edgar.aichin...@aon.at
   An: BAROQUE-LUTE baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
   Betreff: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: duos with alto recorder
   Hi Rockford and list,
   thanks for your reply, I've uploaded the DeVisee Suite B.C.
   intabulation now, see
   [1][2]http://de.scribd.com/doc/230913262/Robert-De-Visee-Suite-in-D-min
   or-
   1686?in_collection486500
   Greetings, Edgar
   Am Sonntag, 22. Juni 2014, 08:57:15 schrieb Rockford Mjos:
I think these would be very useful and it shouldn't be at all hard to
   locate the missing melody parts.
   
The Corelli is a little problematic for recorder in the original key
   (I have an alto recorder version transposed to Gm in my files), but the
   Sarabanda and Giga would only require a few notes to be transposed up
   an octave.
   
Thanks for reminding us for these.
   
-- R
   
   
   
On Jun 22, 2014, at 7:22 AM, Edgar Aichinger edgar.aichin...@aon.at
   wrote:
   
 Am Freitag, 20. Juni 2014, 08:58:23 schrieb Ken Brodkey:
 Hi Everyone,

 A friend's friend will be visiting next month and she's an
   excellent
 alto recorder player. I'm trying to find some music for us to play
 together. Can anyone be so kind to send me some pdf's for baroque
   lute
 and alto recorder? What about flute? Can the recorder play most
   baroque
 flute music or is the range of the flute to broad?

 Thanks, in advance, for all your help.

 Ken Brodkey

 About three weeks ago I posted a link to my scribd site where I
   occasionally upload my own amateur intabulations/transcriptions of lute
   and guitar music, the latest addition being Sonata No. VII in d-minor
   from op.5 by Corelli, a 1:1 intabulation of a B.C. realisation for
   classical guitar. For that same reason it lacks low basses, and the
   melody part (for violin) is missing too, but can be found on IMSLP. See
   my other post from 2nd June for a link. I'm not sure anymore but I
   think I've played it with my girlfriend on alto recorder and in general
   it worked for her, and the Continuo may be guitar-style but isnice
   and not hard to play on lute, IMHO. I just wonder why noone reacted to
   my previous mail... my efforts may be dilettantic but are they that
   bad? :)

 Apart from that I've done tabs for the B.C. of a few other single
   movements by different Composers, all 4 movements from Haendel Sonata
   op. 1/5 in a-minor (I still have printouts of that, which I could scan,
   but lost the Cripps tab source due to a disk crash), and De Visee
   (Suite d-minor from the melody/B.C. version starting at p. 45 in the
   1686 book). If you're interested in these, mail me privately and I'll
   see how to pass them on to you, if needed I can scan the melody parts.

 Edgar




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   References
   1.
   [4]http://de.scribd.com/doc/230913262/Robert-De-Visee-Suite-in-D-minor-
   1686?in_collection486500
   2. [5]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

References

   1. http://culture.besancon.fr/ark:/48565/a011290090127TYORuz/1/1
   2. http://de.scribd.com/doc/230913262/Robert-De-Visee-Suite-in-D-minor-
   3. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
   4.
http://de.scribd.com/doc/230913262/Robert-De-Visee-Suite-in-D-minor-1686?in_
collection486500
   5. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Request for help

[David Smith]

   Many of you know or know of Stephen Barber and Sandi Harris. They had a
   fire in their workshop last Sunday. Luckily it did not destroy their
   shop and they are cleaning up and recovering. Unfortunately it left a
   mess that needs to be cleaned up and they lost some information and
   materials. Luckily they did not lose their wood stash or any
   instruments. They are looking to sell one of their recently completed
   instruments to raise funds to help cleanup. It is a Voboam baroque
   guitar. If you know of anyone that might be interested in having a
   beautiful baroque guitar please have them contact Stephen and Sandi
   through their website [1]http://www.lutesandguitars.co.uk/.

   Stephen, Sandi, and neighbors battled the fire and put it out
   themselves. Who knows what damage might of occurred had the fire
   department come in with a fire hose and drenched everything.


   Knowing Stephen and Sandi, and having seen pictures of the workshop
   after the fire, this will not impede their building of instruments for
   very long but it will take some funds to recover.


   I believe they would also appreciate words of encouragement and
   support.


   Regards

   David



   --

References

   1. http://www.lutesandguitars.co.uk/


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[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: New Charles Mouton CD

[David Smith]

Thank you, thank you, thank you for including the PDF of the booklet in the
MP3 version. YAY!

Regards
David

-Original Message-
From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf
Of Anders Ericson
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 1:55 AM
To: baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] New Charles Mouton CD

   Hi everyone. I am very happy to present my new CD with the fantastic
   music of Charles Mouton. Four suites taken from book 1 and the Prague
   manuscript. Check it out:
   [1]http://daphne.se/charles-mouton
   If you like this then you should also check out my first CD on the same
   label:
   [2]http://daphne.se/relic
   I hope that you are not offended by this commercial break!
   All the best / Anders Ericson

   --

References

   1. http://daphne.se/charles-mouton
   2. http://daphne.se/relic


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[LUTE] Re: French Baroque - BNF Gallica

[David Smith]

Thank you!
David

-Original Message-
From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf
Of T.Kakinami
Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2014 7:23 PM
To: 'LuteNet list'
Subject: [LUTE] French Baroque - BNF Gallica

Gaultier, Denis
Pieces de luth de Denis Gaultier, sur trois differens modes nouveaux...
http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b52502527w

Manuscrit Barbe
Pieces pour luth de differents auteurs, en tablature francaise
http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b530592353

Manuscrit Milleran
Recueil // des plus belles pieces de lut // des meilleurs maitres, sur les
14 modes de la musique, savoir // sept en Bemol,  sept en Becare qui se
marquent ordinai- // rement ainsi,
http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b530592370.r


*
  Toshiaki Kakinami
  E-mail :  tk...@orchid.plala.or.jp
  Blog   : http://kakitoshilute.blogspot.com
*




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[LUTE] Re: Milleran MS in color

[David Smith]

Beautiful manuscript. Thanks for sharing.
David

-Original Message-
From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf
Of Alain Veylit
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 8:02 AM
To: lute list
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Milleran MS in color

Thanks to Gallica, the Milleran MS is now available in color:
http://lute.musickshandmade.com/facbooks/view/266
Alain



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