[LUTE] Wandervögel Songs

2011-03-21 Thread A. J. Ness

Dear Mathias,

I didn't mean it to be a substitute for any number of books with songs from
that repertory.  Indeed the Zupfgeigenhansl is available in many, many
editions offered by antiquarian dealers, and range in size (and hence number
of opieces) from 95 to 138 pages.

Use the Karlsruhe Connection (last column) to locate copies:
http://www.ubka.uni-karlsruhe.de/kvk_en.html

The volumes I cited, Was die Wandervögel, have nearly 800 songs, and are
available for Laute (Gitarre), also, but only with chord accompaniments.

So, a lute accompaniment arranged from Krome's keyboard arrangement might be
more
interesting.

The book mentioned by Wolfgang also has interesting pieces because they draw
upon such old songs.

Here again is Wolfgang's link to the online facsimile:

http://www.mediafire.com/?dxceoidm4p4xfmi

Perhaps we should be paying closer attention to the Wandervögel Lieder.

Greetings from Boston, Arthur.
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Subject: [LUTE] Re: [LUTE] Re: Wandervögel Songs



You'll have all the tunes and lyrics from this edition, at least. But
these are adaptations for the keyboard, definitely no more feasible on the
lute.

Quite a few copies of Der Zupfgeigenhandel are still floating around (
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Der_Zupfgeigenhansl ), why not take one of
those.

Mathias



 Some of you may be interested in this collection in several volumes
 with hundreds of songs (alas arranged for piano, but originally for
 lute-guitar):

 [1]http://hdl.handle.net/1802/14257

 Publication Name: Was die Wandervo#776;gel singen ... fu#776;r
 Klavier bearbeitet und herausgegeben von Hermann Krome. Illustriert
 von Paul Telemann. Band I-IV.
 Arranger:Krome, Hermann (1888 - 1955)

 Is anyone out there interested in  this repertory?  Roman?

 References

 1. http://hdl.handle.net/1802/14257




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[LUTE] Wandervögel Songs

2011-03-21 Thread Mathias Roesel
Dear Arthur,

All I meant to say was that the keyboard arrangements cannot be played on
the lute. And I fr one do consider the Wandervogel lute a proper lute, btw.
Furthermore, many of these arrangements have instrumental introductions that
have been specifically composed for the piano. The Wandervogel people are
led into the parlour 8)

Arthur, you know all these things, but let me say it nevertheless:
Wandervogel Lieder were intrinsically tied to outdoors wandering,
Wandervogel people strumming their lutes and guitars. There was no need of
artful playing techniques. No pianos rambling on the roads, chords was all
they needed.

Wandervogel Lieder are still sung in quite a few circles where the way of
Wandervogel thinking and their way of life still is alive. Most of them
elderly people, of course, singing inside the houses more often than
outdoors. 
Wandervogel lyrics really deserve attention, way not all of it belongs to
the Volksmusik rubbish that you can see on German TV. But it takes a good
command of German.

Best wishes,

Mathias



 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
 Von: A. J. Ness [mailto:arthurjn...@verizon.net]
 Gesendet: Sonntag, 20. März 2011 23:13
 An: Mathias Rösel; Lute List
 Betreff: Re: [LUTE] Re: [LUTE] Re: Wandervögel Songs
 
 Dear Mathias,
 
 I didn't mean it to be a substitute for any number of books with songs
from that
 repertory.  Indeed the Zupfgeigenhansl is available in many, many editions
 offered by antiquarian dealers, and range in size (and hence number of
opieces)
 from 95 to 138 pages.
 
 Use the Karlsruhe Connection (last column) to locate copies:
 http://www.ubka.uni-karlsruhe.de/kvk_en.html
 
 The volumes I cited, Was die Wandervögel, have nearly 800 songs, and are
 available for Laute (Gitarre), also, but only with chord accompaniments.
 
 So, a lute accompaniment arranged from Krome's keyboard arrangement might
 be more interesting.
 
 The book mentioned by Wolfgang also has interesting pieces because they
draw
 upon such old songs.
 
 Here again is Wolfgang's link to the online facsimile:
 
 http://www.mediafire.com/?dxceoidm4p4xfmi
 
 Perhaps we should be paying closer attention to the Wandervögel Lieder.
 
 Greetings from Boston, Arthur.
 - Original Message -
 From: mathias.roe...@t-online.de
 To: A. J. Ness arthurjn...@verizon.net; Lute List
 lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
 Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2011 6:26 AM
 Subject: [LUTE] Re: [LUTE] Re: Wandervögel Songs
 
 
  You'll have all the tunes and lyrics from this edition, at least. But
  these are adaptations for the keyboard, definitely no more feasible on
the
  lute.
 
  Quite a few copies of Der Zupfgeigenhandel are still floating around (
  http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Der_Zupfgeigenhansl ), why not take one of
  those.
 
  Mathias
 
 
 
   Some of you may be interested in this collection in several volumes
   with hundreds of songs (alas arranged for piano, but originally for
   lute-guitar):
  
   [1]http://hdl.handle.net/1802/14257
  
   Publication Name: Was die Wandervo#776;gel singen ... fu#776;r
   Klavier bearbeitet und herausgegeben von Hermann Krome. Illustriert
   von Paul Telemann. Band I-IV.
   Arranger:Krome, Hermann (1888 - 1955)
  
   Is anyone out there interested in  this repertory?  Roman?
 
   References
  
   1. http://hdl.handle.net/1802/14257
 
 
 
 
  To get on or off this list see list information at
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