[LUTE] Re: Fancy by John Danyel
Surprises to come in keeping with this particular aspect of things in our future programme of Elizabethan lute duets with A Due Liuti called «The Marygolde», with a good deal of our own reconstructions or adaptations respecting the style prevailing then ! Stay tuned ! Jean-Marie > Le 3 sept. 2020 à 19:49, Alain Veylit a écrit : > > Thank you much Martin, > > It goes on to show how important it is to give credit and to show that > alternatives do/should exist :) Reconstructing lute parts is a thankless, > arduous but necessary task/art! > > PS: Has anybody noticed that none of the numerous grounds to the Queen's > goodnight seem to fit the treble in Marsh or D.d3.18?? > > > >> On 9/1/20 11:06 PM, Martin Shepherd wrote: >> Yes, the reconstructions of both the Fancy and a Merry Mood are by Robert >> Spencer. >> >> Several more reconstructions of the Fancy can be found in my edition of the >> works of Danyel, available from the Lute Society. >> >> Best wishes, >> >> Martin >> >>> On 02/09/2020 07:18, Alain Veylit wrote: >>> Thank you Denys, >>> >>> Yes, it is Robert Spencer (I could not remember, but now I do!) -- Do >>> you happen to know if Robert was also responsible for part 2 of In a >>> merry mood, also in Sampson? >>> On 9/1/20 4:58 PM, Denys Stephens wrote: >>> >>> Dear Alain, the version of that piece that I know has the second lute part >>> recon >>> structed by Robert Spencer. There were few people better placed than him to >>> trac >>> k down the original, and my understanding is that reconstruction was made >>> becaus >>> e it wasn't to be found. That was a good many years ago, and as far as I'm >>> aware >>> Danyel's second part is still missing. Best wishes, Denys >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On 2 Sep 2020, at 00:25, Alain Veylit [1] wrote: >>> >>> Does anybody happen to know who wrote the second lute part for John >>> Danyel's fan >>> cy, Sampson [f11r] ? It has become standard but it is systematically not >>> credite >>> d... >>> >>> >>> >>> To get on or off this list see list information at >>> [2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> References >>> >>> 1. mailto:al...@musickshandmade.com >>> 2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html >>> >> > >
[LUTE] Re: Fancy by John Danyel
Yes, the Queen's goodnight (or just "good night") is a problem. I've been looking also at the solo versions and they have a few glitches M P.S. it seems everybody plays them as written, even when there are missing bars - sigh. If that's the norm for such an obvious, short ground bass, what hope is there for more complex pieces? M On 03/09/2020 19:47, Alain Veylit wrote: Thank you much Martin, It goes on to show how important it is to give credit and to show that alternatives do/should exist :) Reconstructing lute parts is a thankless, arduous but necessary task/art! PS: Has anybody noticed that none of the numerous grounds to the Queen's goodnight seem to fit the treble in Marsh or D.d3.18?? On 9/1/20 11:06 PM, Martin Shepherd wrote: Yes, the reconstructions of both the Fancy and a Merry Mood are by Robert Spencer. Several more reconstructions of the Fancy can be found in my edition of the works of Danyel, available from the Lute Society. Best wishes, Martin On 02/09/2020 07:18, Alain Veylit wrote: Thank you Denys, Yes, it is Robert Spencer (I could not remember, but now I do!) -- Do you happen to know if Robert was also responsible for part 2 of In a merry mood, also in Sampson? On 9/1/20 4:58 PM, Denys Stephens wrote: Dear Alain, the version of that piece that I know has the second lute part recon structed by Robert Spencer. There were few people better placed than him to trac k down the original, and my understanding is that reconstruction was made becaus e it wasn't to be found. That was a good many years ago, and as far as I'm aware Danyel's second part is still missing. Best wishes, Denys Sent from my iPhone On 2 Sep 2020, at 00:25, Alain Veylit [1] wrote: Does anybody happen to know who wrote the second lute part for John Danyel's fan cy, Sampson [f11r] ? It has become standard but it is systematically not credite d... To get on or off this list see list information at [2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:al...@musickshandmade.com 2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
[LUTE] Re: Fancy by John Danyel
Thank you much Martin, It goes on to show how important it is to give credit and to show that alternatives do/should exist :) Reconstructing lute parts is a thankless, arduous but necessary task/art! PS: Has anybody noticed that none of the numerous grounds to the Queen's goodnight seem to fit the treble in Marsh or D.d3.18?? On 9/1/20 11:06 PM, Martin Shepherd wrote: Yes, the reconstructions of both the Fancy and a Merry Mood are by Robert Spencer. Several more reconstructions of the Fancy can be found in my edition of the works of Danyel, available from the Lute Society. Best wishes, Martin On 02/09/2020 07:18, Alain Veylit wrote: Thank you Denys, Yes, it is Robert Spencer (I could not remember, but now I do!) -- Do you happen to know if Robert was also responsible for part 2 of In a merry mood, also in Sampson? On 9/1/20 4:58 PM, Denys Stephens wrote: Dear Alain, the version of that piece that I know has the second lute part recon structed by Robert Spencer. There were few people better placed than him to trac k down the original, and my understanding is that reconstruction was made becaus e it wasn't to be found. That was a good many years ago, and as far as I'm aware Danyel's second part is still missing. Best wishes, Denys Sent from my iPhone On 2 Sep 2020, at 00:25, Alain Veylit [1] wrote: Does anybody happen to know who wrote the second lute part for John Danyel's fan cy, Sampson [f11r] ? It has become standard but it is systematically not credite d... To get on or off this list see list information at [2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:al...@musickshandmade.com 2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Fancy by John Danyel
Yes, the reconstructions of both the Fancy and a Merry Mood are by Robert Spencer. Several more reconstructions of the Fancy can be found in my edition of the works of Danyel, available from the Lute Society. Best wishes, Martin On 02/09/2020 07:18, Alain Veylit wrote: Thank you Denys, Yes, it is Robert Spencer (I could not remember, but now I do!) -- Do you happen to know if Robert was also responsible for part 2 of In a merry mood, also in Sampson? On 9/1/20 4:58 PM, Denys Stephens wrote: Dear Alain, the version of that piece that I know has the second lute part recon structed by Robert Spencer. There were few people better placed than him to trac k down the original, and my understanding is that reconstruction was made becaus e it wasn't to be found. That was a good many years ago, and as far as I'm aware Danyel's second part is still missing. Best wishes, Denys Sent from my iPhone On 2 Sep 2020, at 00:25, Alain Veylit [1] wrote: Does anybody happen to know who wrote the second lute part for John Danyel's fan cy, Sampson [f11r] ? It has become standard but it is systematically not credite d... To get on or off this list see list information at [2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:al...@musickshandmade.com 2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
[LUTE] Re: Fancy by John Danyel
Thank you Denys, Yes, it is Robert Spencer (I could not remember, but now I do!) -- Do you happen to know if Robert was also responsible for part 2 of In a merry mood, also in Sampson? On 9/1/20 4:58 PM, Denys Stephens wrote: Dear Alain, the version of that piece that I know has the second lute part recon structed by Robert Spencer. There were few people better placed than him to trac k down the original, and my understanding is that reconstruction was made becaus e it wasn't to be found. That was a good many years ago, and as far as I'm aware Danyel's second part is still missing. Best wishes, Denys Sent from my iPhone On 2 Sep 2020, at 00:25, Alain Veylit [1] wrote: Does anybody happen to know who wrote the second lute part for John Danyel's fan cy, Sampson [f11r] ? It has become standard but it is systematically not credite d... To get on or off this list see list information at [2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:al...@musickshandmade.com 2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Fancy by John Danyel
Dear Alain, the version of that piece that I know has the second lute part reconstructed by Robert Spencer. There were few people better placed than him to track down the original, and my understanding is that reconstruction was made because it wasn’t to be found. That was a good many years ago, and as far as I’m aware Danyel’s second part is still missing. Best wishes, Denys Sent from my iPhone > On 2 Sep 2020, at 00:25, Alain Veylit wrote: > > Does anybody happen to know who wrote the second lute part for John Danyel's > fancy, Sampson [f11r] ? It has become standard but it is systematically not > credited... > > > > To get on or off this list see list information at > http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Fancy by John Danyel
Does anybody happen to know who wrote the second lute part for John Danyel's fancy, Sampson [f11r] ? It has become standard but it is systematically not credited... To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
