[LUTE] Re: Italian texts - help needed
Rob What a work, especially when you could also spend your time playing your new lute... Just some thoughts: - Alfabetto is not always in agreement with the suggested harmony (or even figures when printed) in bass and melody. - There are more ways of figuring a Kapsberger song, so writing down an editorial figuring might suggest to an innocent continuo player that that is the only correct one and consequently constrain his discovery of other possibilities. Hence I prefer to see the bass only, if no figures were in the original. I like to make up my own mind. With Kapsberger the picture is diverse: Libro Primo of the Motetti Passeggiati have just a bass, Libro Secundo with Arie a bass with a few figures, Libro Primo with the Arie Passeggiate a bass and written out theorbo tab. The Villanelle Libro Primo have bass, theo-tab and alfabetto, Libro Secondo bass, a few figures and alfabetto, Libro Terzo a bass with more figures, theo-tab and alfabetto and Libro Quarto is like Libro Secondo again. The music not published by Spess I have only seen in transcription, but the books listed here give enough insight in Kapsberger's harmonical world to figure out the figures for yourself, and as a player I prefer that above an editorial figuring in this music. Keep up the good work, Kapsberger wrote some beautiful arias and jolly villanellas. David David van Ooijen [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.davidvanooijen.nl - Original Message - From: Rob [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 10:50 AM Subject: [LUTE] Italian texts - help needed I'm in the process of setting the solo songs by Kapsberger for free download over the internet, an example (still to be finished) can be found here: http://www.rmguitar.info/temp.htm I need help from someone with expertise in Italian texts, spelling, underlay. This would be a joint project with no money involved. As you can see from the example, I've decided to put the 'real' chord symbols above the staff instead of the alfabeto. I've yet to decide whether to fully figure the bass according to the chords. I imagine the choices should be obvious from the combined notation of bass line and chord symbol, but might be easier for sight-reading purposes of the bass was fully figured. Thoughts, anyone? Rob MacKillop www.rmguitar.info -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Italian texts - help needed
On Monday 17 December 2007 11:23, LGS-Europe rattled on the keyboard: Rob What a work, especially when you could also spend your time playing your new lute... Just some thoughts: - Alfabetto is not always in agreement with the suggested harmony (or even figures when printed) in bass and melody. - There are more ways of figuring a Kapsberger song, so writing down an editorial figuring might suggest to an innocent continuo player that that is the only correct one and consequently constrain his discovery of other possibilities. Hence I prefer to see the bass only, if no figures were in the original. I like to make up my own mind. With Kapsberger the picture is diverse: Libro Primo of the Motetti Passeggiati have just a bass, Libro Secundo with Arie a bass with a few figures, Libro Primo with the Arie Passeggiate a bass and written out theorbo tab. The Villanelle Libro Primo have bass, theo-tab and alfabetto, Libro Secondo bass, a few figures and alfabetto, Libro Terzo a bass with more figures, theo-tab and alfabetto and Libro Quarto is like Libro Secondo again. The music not published by Spess I have only seen in transcription, but the books listed here give enough insight in Kapsberger's harmonical world to figure out the figures for yourself, and as a player I prefer that above an editorial figuring in this music. Keep up the good work, Kapsberger wrote some beautiful arias and jolly villanellas. David I can only fully agree with David here. If you play for example some of the kapsberger toccatas you see some very daring chords (those super chords where the 10course toccata 3 and 6 start for example...). This gives an idea how Kapsberger accompanied such songs. The songs with theorbo tab gives you the proof. figuring of kapsberger songs is something much more complicated than a simple alfabetto. Not to speak about those songs which will not fit in modern typesetting because of the number of notes etc. Taco To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Italian texts - help needed
Thanks to David for his comments and to Davide for his offer of help, but I now have a collaborator who had actually already made a start on these songs, plus we have also been in correspondence already about other things. I'll let you know when it is available. Rob www.rmguitar.info -Original Message- From: Rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 December 2007 09:50 To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Italian texts - help needed I'm in the process of setting the solo songs by Kapsberger for free download over the internet, an example (still to be finished) can be found here: http://www.rmguitar.info/temp.htm I need help from someone with expertise in Italian texts, spelling, underlay. This would be a joint project with no money involved. As you can see from the example, I've decided to put the 'real' chord symbols above the staff instead of the alfabeto. I've yet to decide whether to fully figure the bass according to the chords. I imagine the choices should be obvious from the combined notation of bass line and chord symbol, but might be easier for sight-reading purposes of the bass was fully figured. Thoughts, anyone? Rob MacKillop www.rmguitar.info -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
