[LUTE] Re: the Sting-effect

2006-09-27 Thread Jorge Torres
Dear List:

Issues of musical style aside, Dowland, as performed by Sting does indeed
exist within a popular music system, by both its economic and transmission
factors.  As stated in the article ³Economic and Transmission Factors as
Essential Elements in the Definition of Folk, Art, and Pop Music²  by
Gregory D. Booth and Terry Lee Kuhn (Musical Quarterly 1990, vol. 74(3):
411-438), popular music systems work within a system of indirect patronage.
Art music, on the other hand, works within a system of direct patronage.
When music originally created under a patronage system (much of the music
before Beethoven) is later produced and disseminated under a system of
indirect patronage (Any classical recording available through Amazon or
Virgin records, for example), the music falls under the domain of popular
music, despite its art music origins.  So, David's pupil is correct to
believe that this is pop music, as is Roger Norrington's recordings of
Beethoven and the lot.

Jorge Torres



On 9/27/06 3:29 AM, LGS-Europe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yesterday music school: guitar pupil of 14 years old. Started on the lute at
 the age of 7, switched to guitar some 2 years ago. Mainly interested in pop.
 Read the Sting-plays-lute, Sting-says-pop-is-dead and Dowland-will-save-pop
 stories on the net. My pupil thinks it's all very cool but considers the
 Dowland-by-Sting as pop. He might want to play some Dowland again because of
 this, perhaps pick up his lute, even?
 
 David
 
 
 
 
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[LUTE] Re: the Sting-effect

2006-09-27 Thread Phalese
In einer eMail vom 27.09.2006 15:24:25 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt 
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 Dear List:
 
 Issues of musical style aside, Dowland, as performed by Sting does indeed
 exist within a popular music system, by both its economic and transmission
 factors.  As stated in the article =B3Economic and Transmission Factors as
 Essential Elements in the Definition of Folk, Art, and Pop Music=B2  by
 Gregory D. Booth and Terry Lee Kuhn (Musical Quarterly 1990, vol. 74(3):
 411-438), popular music systems work within a system of indirect patronage.
 Art music, on the other hand, works within a system of direct patronage.
 When music originally created under a patronage system (much of the music
 before Beethoven) is later produced and disseminated under a system of
 indirect patronage (Any classical recording available through Amazon or
 Virgin records, for example), the music falls under the domain of popular
 music, despite its art music origins.  So, David's pupil is correct to
 believe that this is pop music, as is Roger Norrington's recordings of
 Beethoven and the lot.
 
 Jorge Torres
 

 I work part -ime in a record store and was sadly in my lunch break when the 
Polygram sales rep came to visit us with a copy of the new Sting CD. I would 
like to have heard it in all in it's sonic glory, I hope truly that it sounds 
much better then the amazon excerpts.

But my colleague who ordered the CD from the Sales Rep asked him how many he 
should take. He answered don't take many it won't sell it's a classical CD. 

Sorry but the sales rep hadn't read that book.
Reality is often much more complex and more dirty than academics view it.
best wishes
Mark

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