Re: Django on Mac with VPC
> Django will be probably the first piece of > software to do away completely with the "Open file" menu command, because > it is a pain to have to look for that one piece all over your hard-drive. Don't do that. I know where my files are, and I use Ctrl+O A LOT. RT
Re: Django on Mac with VPC
Jon, Lute players play with two fingers only on the right hand to emulate their hero: Django Reinhardt - I am surprised this is not common knowledge (even though Django's burnt fingers were actually on the left hand according to some sources...) For more bad jokes, links to the Django software, see http://www.cbsr.ucr.edu/wlkfiles/ELF.html , home to the Galactic Lute society, musical gastronomy, and the best set of variations on the Willoughby tune ever composed (alas and quite unfortunately impossible to play by humans). That aside, I have been developing lately some new features that can be of interest to perhaps one or two people among you: --XML indexing. This is a fancy name that allows you to enjoy a searchable interface to some 5,000 tablatures (not all of the best quality). For a demo, see the "tablature database" link on ELF (Electric Lute Forgery). Very little of the actual capability of that new function is actually represented, since it would be possible with only a little more work to index pieces in Django format on key, signature, tuning, etc. I have only activated the usual author/title/source bits of info in that database. --Integrated link to digital facsimiles. If you do a search on "Borrono" in the database, for instance, you should see a listing with a link to a document called Diversi Autori. If you have the latest Django version and download that document and still have a live Internet connection, you should be able to double click on the links in the window called "Facsimiles and associated documents" to open the facsimile picture associated to the particular piece you are looking at in the editor screen. It is also handy to not catch a stiff neck while transcribing/proofing music. Since computing is nothing but trouble, it is likely to fail for you but I thought I'd let you know that it is there. Those features - together with many others, like merging selected MIDI tracks into a single tablature (for instance you can merge the bass and tenor from a 4-voice MIDI file) - will probably be implemented first by Finale, and next by Sibelius, in the next decade or so. In the meantime, Django will be probably the first piece of software to do away completely with the "Open file" menu command, because it is a pain to have to look for that one piece all over your hard-drive. Having said that, the 4 or 5 lute tablature software developers on this list would probably appreciate your support because 1) they do it on the side of their real work, 2) they have probably already brought you much more lute-wise than Finale and Sibelius ever will, 3) they have all written software that allows you to actually input bourdons (or diapasons) easily and speedily, and they know the difference between a theorbo and a ukulele. Alain PS: As Fermat said: Ah, if only I had time (and/or space) to write the help files... At 11:26 PM 8/16/2004, Jon Murphy wrote: >Oh my, I reveal my age and stupidity. I was wondering why Django Reinhardt >got so much press on the lute list. I've finally figured out that Django is >a music program for the computer. I was passing through the thread without >paying attention (attention span is one of the first things that go - but as >I'll reach that French number, the one almost symbolized by the yin/yang >symbol in a couple of weeks, I forgive myself. It is enough work to remember >one measure of divisions without looking at the tab these days). > >Best, Jon
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Oh my, I reveal my age and stupidity. I was wondering why Django Reinhardt got so much press on the lute list. I've finally figured out that Django is a music program for the computer. I was passing through the thread without paying attention (attention span is one of the first things that go - but as I'll reach that French number, the one almost symbolized by the yin/yang symbol in a couple of weeks, I forgive myself. It is enough work to remember one measure of divisions without looking at the tab these days). Best, Jon
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Hi Ed, Yup, baroque cittern is my deal, but I play a 7-course, so a line below is useful sometimes. If you've only used 3.7, things have changed, a lot. It's quite easy to use now. Doc
Re: Django on Mac with VPC
At 5:52 PM +0200 8/16/04, doc rossi wrote: >I used to use Fronimo on my Mac with VPC, but I have to say that I'm so >pleased with the new version of Finale that I don't bother with >anything else now. Thanks to Daniel, though. I'm a little curious >about Harmony Assistant so I'll have to check it out. Finale is >expensive if you can't use an academic discount, but it does do nice >tab, is quite flexible, and the print-out is great. Your primary instrument is Baroque cittern, right? No ciphers below the staff is a big drawback for lutenists. It limits you to 6 courses, unless you want to go to the trouble that Richard went to. At 5:02 AM -0700 8/16/04, Richard Yates wrote: >The >biggest shortcoming is that there is no facility for 'off the fingerboard' >strings (e.g those higher than six on the chitaronne). I had to use >expression marks for these symbols and attach them to hidden notes. Also, unless they've greatly improved their interface since I bought it (which is quite possible since I never upgraded from version 3.7), it is very un-Mac-like, un-intuitive and generally a PIA to learn. Nothing personal against CODA, that may be the price you pay to be able to do anything in one program. cheers, -- Ed Durbrow currently in Grass Valley, CA USA http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/ --
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I was impressed on two counts with Harmony assistant. One was the tech support. I hadn't bought the program and I let them know I was just trying it out, yet they answered several queries very promptly by email. There is also a discussion group that is virtually extended support. The other was the look and feel and intuitiveness of the program. I hope you become an expert at it then you can advise me. Like I mentioned before, my main purpose is to be able to import sequences and render them in tab. Although Harmony Assistant could do it somewhat, it kept putting question marks for notes that were 'out of range', whatever that means. Please let me know if you have success in that department. cheers, >Actually Ed, based on your previous post I tried out and then bought >Harmony Assistant. It does a nice job with Baroque lute tab and I'm >still figuring out how to get an ideal output for Renaissance tab. I >especially like that I can also display standard notation with the tab, >as I am trying to learn to read standard notation for my lutes. I can >also have it play back what I have entered, which is nice for auto >duets. > >It's nice to support a product from a company that supports the Mac >format rather than relying on Virtual PC (which doesn't work on my G5 >anyway). > > >>Ed Durbrow >> >>> This is probably of >>> limited interest to the list, so it would be best to respond >>> privately. >> >>I'm sure there are other Mac users like me who like to keep tabs, as it >>were, on this sort of thing. >> >> -- Ed Durbrow currently in Grass Valley, CA USA http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/
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Doc Rossi wrote: > > I used to use Fronimo on my Mac with VPC, but I have to say that I'm so > pleased with the new version of Finale that I don't bother with > anything else now. Which version of Finale do you have? Regards, Craig
Re: Django on Mac with VPC
> expensive if you can't use an academic discount, but it does do nice > tab, is quite flexible, and the print-out is great. My understanding is that is still is incapable of the baroque lute tabulatures. RT __ Roman M. Turovsky http://polyhymnion.org/swv
Re: Django on Mac with VPC
I used to use Fronimo on my Mac with VPC, but I have to say that I'm so pleased with the new version of Finale that I don't bother with anything else now. Thanks to Daniel, though. I'm a little curious about Harmony Assistant so I'll have to check it out. Finale is expensive if you can't use an academic discount, but it does do nice tab, is quite flexible, and the print-out is great.
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>> I'm evaluating a demo of Django on a Mac to see if it will suit my >> needs and would like to ask anybody who has used it with virtual PC >> on a Mac a few questions, if you don't mind. This is probably of >> limited interest to the list, so it would be best to respond >> privately. I'm particularly interested in importing standard midi >> files and wonder if anyone has had success with this. Yes. Whether this would result in clean job is another matter, there are very few midi files that cleanly import into any music program. Ornaments screw up things generally. >> BTW, Fronimo does not IMPORT SMFs, right? Fronimo 3 would, when it comes out. RT __ Roman M. Turovsky http://polyhymnion.org/swv
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I've been running Django on my G4, trouble free. RT __ Roman M. Turovsky http://polyhymnion.org/swv >> This is probably of >> limited interest to the list, so it would be best to respond >> privately. > > I'm sure there are other Mac users like me who like to keep tabs, as it > were, on this sort of thing. > >
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Actually Ed, based on your previous post I tried out and then bought Harmony Assistant. It does a nice job with Baroque lute tab and I'm still figuring out how to get an ideal output for Renaissance tab. I especially like that I can also display standard notation with the tab, as I am trying to learn to read standard notation for my lutes. I can also have it play back what I have entered, which is nice for auto duets. It's nice to support a product from a company that supports the Mac format rather than relying on Virtual PC (which doesn't work on my G5 anyway). >Ed Durbrow > >> This is probably of >> limited interest to the list, so it would be best to respond >> privately. > >I'm sure there are other Mac users like me who like to keep tabs, as it >were, on this sort of thing. > >
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Ed Durbrow > This is probably of > limited interest to the list, so it would be best to respond > privately. I'm sure there are other Mac users like me who like to keep tabs, as it were, on this sort of thing.
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i tried the django demo as well - briefly - but couldn't get it up and running. think i've got to "refresh" my mac skills before tackling anything like that. just wanted you to know there was someone at the other end of the line. cheers - bill On Sabato, ago 14, 2004, at 11:35 Europe/Rome, Ed Durbrow wrote: > I'm evaluating a demo of Django on a Mac to see if it will suit my > needs and would like to ask anybody who has used it with virtual PC > on a Mac a few questions, if you don't mind. This is probably of > limited interest to the list, so it would be best to respond > privately. I'm particularly interested in importing standard midi > files and wonder if anyone has had success with this. > BTW, Fronimo does not IMPORT SMFs, right? > TIA > -- > Ed Durbrow > currently in Grass Valley, CA USA > http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/ > >
