Re: [Lxde-list] Problems with posting messages to lxde-debian mailing list

[Andrew Lee]

Hi Bob,

Sorry for the long long wait. I have been very busy and don't really know
the spam filter setup on lists.lxde.org.

@Daniel,
Would you mind to help us for the spam filter issue on lists.lxde.org?

And @Martin,
Would you have time to manage the list admin?

Best regards,

-Andrew



2013/10/15 Andrej N. Gritsenko 

> Hello!
>
> Bob Bib has written on Monday, 14 October, at  5:56:
> >I don't notice any progress there...
>
> >Does anyone know
> >who is the person behind ,
> >and can report the super-anti-spam problems at the mailing lists there? :)
>
> I believe Andrew Lee  is the person. Let wait him. :)
>
> With best wishes.
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Re: [Lxde-list] Quick question about lxde gpicview upstream

[Andrew Lee]

Dear Dererk,

Thanks for bring us the chance to have a new release. \o/

Cheers,

-Andrew

Martin Bagge / brother 於 2013年10月11日星期五寫道：

> On 2013-10-11 08:57, Andrew Lee wrote:
> > @Martin, Would you mind to roll a release tarball of gpicview for Dererk?
>
> Sure np. I'll tend to it this weekend.
>
> Looks like it was 1,5 year since last release =)
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Re: [Lxde-list] Update for LXDE Debian packages.

[Andrew Lee]

Sorry. Forgot to mention the location of git repo are the same as it was.

Cheers,

-Andrew


2013/8/8 Andrew Lee 

> Hi Julien,
>
> I do not know what you did so that you got "Don't touch the git trees"?
>
> It wasn't from me and I won't care. I think you know how these things
> works already as you would explain to the one who tell you(cares) that
> before making your commits, isn't it? :)
>
> My message are a green light for Debian lxde packaging team to push
> their uncommitted changes for sure.
>
> Cheers,
>
> -Andrew
>
>
> 2013/8/8 Julien Lavergne 
>
>> Hi Andrew,
>>
>> 2013/8/7 Andrew Lee :
>> > Sorry for not been updated packages in Debian for long as I am too busy
>> in
>> > life that didn't able to get our git repo for lxde debian packages back
>> > online.
>> >
>> > I've arrived in DebCamp yesterday. I've got git repo for lxde packages
>> back
>> > online today. If you are already in lxde debian packaging team. Please
>> feel
>> > free to commit your changes into git repo as it was.
>> >
>> > I am now looking at http://mentors.debian.net/ to obtain uncommitted
>> > changes. Hopefully all LXDE packages would be updated during this
>> DebCamp.
>>
>> Great to see you back :-)
>>
>> The last message I got from LXDE Debian people was : "Don't touch the
>> git trees". So, I assume it's now ok to commit changes ? Could you
>> confirm the localization of the git tree ? They was moved some time
>> ago, I'm not even sure where there are now.
>>
>> Unfortunately, Ubuntu packages had diverged a bit now from Debian
>> ones, but I'm willing to merge back all the changes I done, or
>> dropping them if we decide that they are not necessary. I just need
>> the green light for committing changes (I let you validate the changes
>> by uploading the packages).
>>
>> Regards,
>> Julien Lavergne
>>
>
>
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Re: [Lxde-list] Update for LXDE Debian packages.

[Andrew Lee]

Hi Julien,

I do not know what you did so that you got "Don't touch the git trees"?

It wasn't from me and I won't care. I think you know how these things
works already as you would explain to the one who tell you(cares) that
before making your commits, isn't it? :)

My message are a green light for Debian lxde packaging team to push
their uncommitted changes for sure.

Cheers,

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2013/8/8 Julien Lavergne 

> Hi Andrew,
>
> 2013/8/7 Andrew Lee :
> > Sorry for not been updated packages in Debian for long as I am too busy
> in
> > life that didn't able to get our git repo for lxde debian packages back
> > online.
> >
> > I've arrived in DebCamp yesterday. I've got git repo for lxde packages
> back
> > online today. If you are already in lxde debian packaging team. Please
> feel
> > free to commit your changes into git repo as it was.
> >
> > I am now looking at http://mentors.debian.net/ to obtain uncommitted
> > changes. Hopefully all LXDE packages would be updated during this
> DebCamp.
>
> Great to see you back :-)
>
> The last message I got from LXDE Debian people was : "Don't touch the
> git trees". So, I assume it's now ok to commit changes ? Could you
> confirm the localization of the git tree ? They was moved some time
> ago, I'm not even sure where there are now.
>
> Unfortunately, Ubuntu packages had diverged a bit now from Debian
> ones, but I'm willing to merge back all the changes I done, or
> dropping them if we decide that they are not necessary. I just need
> the green light for committing changes (I let you validate the changes
> by uploading the packages).
>
> Regards,
> Julien Lavergne
>



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[Lxde-list] Update for LXDE Debian packages.

[Andrew Lee]

Dear all,

Sorry for not been updated packages in Debian for long as I am too busy in
life that didn't able to get our git repo for lxde debian packages back
online.

I've arrived in DebCamp yesterday. I've got git repo for lxde packages back
online today. If you are already in lxde debian packaging team. Please feel
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Re: [Lxde-list] greetings

[Andrew Lee]

2012/7/9 Daniel Baumann :
> On 07/08/2012 10:58 PM, Hansel Miranda-Wave wrote:
>> Hi i am next to martin bagge
>
> Hi, me too.. so now we have something in common!

Hi, me too now(after Daniel moved for coffee).
How wonderful that we all have something in common now!

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Re: [Lxde-list] patch for lxdm userlist-bug

[Andrew Lee]

Hi Klaumi and Zdenek,

Thanks for the notice and patch.
I am forwarding this to the lxde mailing list for you.

-Andrew

2012/5/22 Klaumi Klingsporn :
> Dear Andrew,
>
> I'm not sure if you are the right address for this mail, but I've no
> account for sorgeforge or the lxde-mailinglists and I hope you can
> forward the attached patch to upstream ;-)
>
> The background:
>
> As you might have seen in the Debian-bug-report #560004 (the never
> ending ITP-Bug for lxdm), I've stolen the Ubuntu package from Julien
> Lavergne  to provide an inofficial package of lxdm
> for Debian.
>
> For this package I got a patch from Zdenek Prikryl for the
> user-list-bug which works fine and which should enter the upstream code
> as well.
>
> Sorry for bothering you but I see no easy way to commit this to
> upstream.
>
> Klaumi
>
> BTW: Any idea when lxdm will enter Debian?
>
>
>
> ---Beginn der weitergeleiteten Nachrichten:---
> Begin forwarded messages:---
>
> Date: Tue, 08 May 2012 21:38:40 +0200
> From: Zdenek Prikryl 
> To: klaumi...@gmx.de
> Subject: lxdm - user list
>
>
> Hello,
> a few days ago I decided to put gdm3 away because of crazy dependences
> on GNOME packages (I'm using XFCE). I searched web and LXDM seems to be
> the good choice. I wrote patch correcting the user list, so only a name
> and login of an user is displayed without commas/other information.
>
> Btw. Do you know whether the LXDM will be ever pushed to unstable?
>
> --
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>
> ---next message:
>
> Date: Wed, 09 May 2012 08:24:56 +0200
> From: Zdenek Prikryl 
> To: klaumi...@gmx.de
> Subject: Re: lxdm - user list
>
>
> On 05/08/2012 11:32 PM, Klaumi Klingsporn wrote:
>> Thanks Zdenek! Works wonderfull! I just put it in my package at
>> apt.klaumikli.de.
>>
>> Did you sent it to upstream too?
>
> No, I didn't. This problem seems to be Debian specific. But the patch
> should not break anything for other distros.
>
> The thing is that other distros, such as Fedora, store only a name of
> user in /etc/passwd if other items (such as a telephone) are not
> specified. In Debian, the items are divided by commas even if the items
> are not specified.
>
> If you want to send the patch to upstream, do it :-)...
>
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>
>
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Re: [Lxde-list] Time to release? (and apology)

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On 2011年09月27日 20:33, Martin Bagge / brother wrote:
> I've been under the ice for about two months and probably should have
> told you earlier about it. Sorry.
> It is clearing up on the home front though. Broke up with my GF and have
> cleared the schedule for the coming weeks some what.

Poor Martin. I wish the newer version would be better.

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Re: [Lxde-list] About GTK2 -> GTK3 Migration, a critical issue

[Andrew Lee]

2011/8/15 Andrea Florio :
> I do understand what you mean, actually most of the gtk3 porting work
> has been made. Actually only those packages doesn't build with gtk3:
>
> gpicview libfm pcmanfm lxmusic lxpanel

According to #8 from PCMan:
GTK2 and 3 programs can coexist, but this requires two libraries
to be installed on the disk and loaded at run time. This is not
acceptable for LXDE.

Unless there are enough benefits to migration to GTK3, I'd hold my
package in GTK2 in Debian for now.

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Re: [Lxde-list] deadbeef media player was already uploaded to mentors.d.n .

[Andrew Lee (李健秋）]

Thanks DreamerC and Alexey for their hard work. I'd have a look when I arrived 
home later tonight. 

Cheers. 

-Andrew

在 2010/8/23 13:16 時，"Shan-Bin Chen (DreamerC)"  寫到：

> Hi,
> 
> Deadbeef - Media Player
> http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/d/deadbeef/deadbeef_0.4.1+git20100805-1.dsc
> 
> We need some help to put this package into Debian repository.
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Re: [Lxde-list] LightDM

[Andrew Lee]

On 2010年08月16日 03:24, Robert Ancell wrote:
> You may or may not be aware of my project to create a new display
> manager, LightDM [1].  The project is in an alpha state where I can
> run LightDM as my display manager, but it needs more work.

Interesting.

> If you are interested, I am actively interested in supporting the LXDE
> project in getting LightDM working well.  I will also be proposing
> LightDM for use in Ubuntu in Maverick+1 and GNOME in 3.0.
> 
> What I need from you:
> - Feedback!
> - Tell me what features LXDE needs.

Cool! We need user switch support which would work together with
lxsession-logout!

Cheers,

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Re: [Lxde-list] Prepare to release LXInput 0.3.0

[Andrew Lee]

Hi,

I've just update the debian package to the git version and uploaded into
experimental to get more people to test it before release the tarball.

-Andrew


On 2010年08月02日 12:12, Martin Bagge / brother wrote:
> On Mon, 2 Aug 2010, PCMan wrote:
> 
>> Please test the lxinput source code in git and do some final review
>> for the translations.
> 
> I crunched the numbers for the translations. Every language above of 90% 
> should be able to finish their translations. I would guess that we can get 
> af and bn_IN too depending on the time frame. I'll be happy to notify the 
> translators about the time frame you decide upon.
> 
> LCDoneFuzzy   New Total   Ratio
> ar23  0   0   23  100,0%
> bg23  0   0   23  100,0%
> bn23  0   0   23  100,0%
> da23  0   0   23  100,0%
> de23  0   0   23  100,0%
> el23  0   0   23  100,0%
> en_GB 23  0   0   23  100,0%
> es23  0   0   23  100,0%
> fo23  0   0   23  100,0%
> he23  0   0   23  100,0%
> it23  0   0   23  100,0%
> ja23  0   0   23  100,0%
> lt23  0   0   23  100,0%
> pl23  0   0   23  100,0%
> pt23  0   0   23  100,0%
> pt_BR 23  0   0   23  100,0%
> ru23  0   0   23  100,0%
> sk23  0   0   23  100,0%
> sl23  0   0   23  100,0%
> sv23  0   0   23  100,0%
> uk23  0   0   23  100,0%
> vi23  0   0   23  100,0%
> zh_TW 23  0   0   23  100,0%
> 
> fa22  1   0   23  95,65%
> sr22  1   0   23  95,65%
> s...@latin22  1   0   23  95,65%
> ast   21  1   1   23  91,3%
> ca21  1   1   23  91,3%
> cs21  1   1   23  91,3%
> es_VE 21  1   1   23  91,3%
> et21  1   1   23  91,3%
> fr21  1   1   23  91,3%
> frp   21  1   1   23  91,3%
> gl21  1   1   23  91,3%
> hu21  1   1   23  91,3%
> id21  1   1   23  91,3%
> ms21  1   1   23  91,3%
> nl21  1   1   23  91,3%
> nn21  1   1   23  91,3%
> ro21  1   1   23  91,3%
> tr21  1   1   23  91,3%
> ur21  1   1   23  91,3%
> ur_PK 21  1   1   23  91,3%
> hr21  0   2   23  91,3%
> 
> af20  1   2   23  86,96%
> bn_IN 19  1   3   23  82,61%
> 
> am0   0   23  23  0,0%
> eu0   0   23  23  0,0%
> fi0   0   23  23  0,0%
> km0   0   23  23  0,0%
> ko0   0   23  23  0,0%
> nb0   0   23  23  0,0%
> ps0   0   23  23  0,0%
> th0   0   23  23  0,0%
> zh_CN 0   0   23  23  0,0%
> ml0   23  23  0,0%
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Lxde-list] Prepare to release LXInput 0.3.0

[Andrew Lee]

Hi,

It also builds on Debian.

Cheers,

-Andrew

On 2010年08月02日 16:06, Andrea Florio wrote:
> no it's not an ubuntu bug as well is not a suse bug (that works without
> any change) it's simply a different set of compiler flags and
> configurations.
> 
> Andrea
> 
> Il 02/08/2010 21:25, PCMan ha scritto:
>> Thanks. This is not in the bug report so I didn't notice this. Sorry.
>> I'll fix this later when I'm home.
> 
>> Yeah, I already noted the difference of Fedora and Ubuntu here.
>> Why ubuntu works without additional config for xlib? Weird...
>> Is this a bug of Ubuntu?
> 
>> On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 3:05 AM, Christoph Wickert
>>  wrote:
>>> Am Montag, den 02.08.2010, 19:46 +0800 schrieb PCMan:
>>>
 Please test the lxinput source code in git and do some final review
 for the translations.
 If there are no big problems, a new release will be made in days.
>>>
>>> I'm having a problem building the package on Fedora.
>>>
 Making all in src
 make[2]: Entering directory `/home/chris/linux/lxde/git/lxinput.work/src'
 gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I.. 
 -DPACKAGE_DATA_DIR=\""/usr/local/share"/lxinput\" 
 -DPACKAGE_LOCALE_DIR=\""/usr/local/share/locale"\" -pthread 
 -I/usr/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/lib64/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/include/atk-1.0 
 -I/usr/include/cairo -I/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 
 -I/usr/lib64/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/include/pixman-1 
 -I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/usr/include/libpng12 
 -Werror-implicit-function-declaration-g -O2 -MT lxinput.o -MD -MP -MF 
 .deps/lxinput.Tpo -c -o lxinput.o lxinput.c
 mv -f .deps/lxinput.Tpo .deps/lxinput.Po
 gcc  -g -O2   -o lxinput lxinput.o -pthread -lgtk-x11-2.0 -lgdk-x11-2.0 
 -latk-1.0 -lgio-2.0 -lpangoft2-1.0 -lgdk_pixbuf-2.0 -lpangocairo-1.0 
 -lcairo -lpango-1.0 -lfreetype -lfontconfig -lgobject-2.0 -lgmodule-2.0 
 -lgthread-2.0 -lrt -lglib-2.0
 /usr/bin/ld: lxinput.o: undefined reference to symbol 'XSetPointerMapping'
 /usr/bin/ld: note: 'XSetPointerMapping' is defined in DSO 
 /usr/lib64/libX11.so.6 so try adding it to the linker command line
 /usr/lib64/libX11.so.6: could not read symbols: Invalid operation
 collect2: ld gab 1 als Ende-Status zurück
 make[2]: *** [lxinput] Fehler 1
 make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/chris/linux/lxde/git/lxinput.work/src'
 make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Fehler 1
 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/chris/linux/lxde/git/lxinput.work'
 make: *** [all] Fehler 2
>>>
>>> You are using symbols from libX11, but you are only linking it
>>> indirectly with -as-needed. Fedora > 13 uses --no-add-needed for reasons
>>> outlined in http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UnderstandingDSOLinkChange
>>>
>>> I had to manually add -lX11 to LDFLAGS but this should of course happen
>>> automatically be configure.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Christoph
>>>
>>> P.S.: We have the same problem with other components too and I hope I
>>> find the time to file bugs and provide patches for them.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Christoph
>>>
>>>
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Re: [Lxde-list] [LXSession] Reproductions of bugs without hal or with gdm3

[Andrew Lee]

Hi Guys,

On 2010年07月23日 05:48, Andrea Florio wrote:
> same on suse.. (cannot test with gdm, not now) 
>> Same on Ubuntu, and I think OpenSuse have the same problem.

After investigated, the gdm3 problem seems Debian specific(as the
running process renamed from gdm to gdm3) here.

I've fixed it in my Debian package. I'd commit it to git if it's not
Debian specific(any other distros also use gdm3 binary name?).

Thanks for help,

-Andrew

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Re: [Lxde-list] [LXSession] Reproductions of bugs without hal or with gdm3

[Andrew Lee]

Hi KDulcimer, (hi Marty and others),

On 2010年07月23日 20:59, KDulcimer wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 5:48 PM, Andrea Florio  > wrote:
> 
> same on suse.. (cannot test with gdm, not now) 
> 
> hybernation and suspension do not work without hal
> 
> 
> That would make sense, as they depend on hal...? I don't get why people
> are reporting this as a bug. It's the way the program is coded. 

We are testing the nice new feature of lxsession-logout that Marty
commited to git on April:

commit df577c699c5b4b6b74c57accc664db5a16fc9b09
Author: Marty Jack 
Date:   Thu Apr 8 10:06:06 2010 -0400

Convert DeviceKit/Power support to UPower support and remove
conditional com Remove main.c, replaced by the revised
lxsession-logout.c some time ago

What I have seen the benefits to have lxsession-logout work with upower:
- Deprecation of HAL
- Speed up boot time

@Marty, may you want to explain more details about HAL and upower? And
what's your plan on suspend/hibernate support?

@MWei, The "switch to another user" is missing from lxsession-logout
dialog here with gdm3(version 2.30.2-4 on my Debian system).

Cheers,

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Re: [Lxde-list] upower support in lxsession-logout

[Andrew Lee]

Hi Andrea,

Thanks for confirming this problem. I cannot do that too without hal.
But I still don't why the shutdown/reboot also doesn't work with polkit
in Debian.

@Marty,
Does the lastest lxsession designed to work without hal or require hal?

Best regards,

-Andrew

On 2010年06月24日 18:18, Andrea Florio wrote:
> it works for me, but i cannot hybernat or sleep the pc anymore without hal.
> 
> Andrea
> 
> Il 24/06/2010 09:49, Andrew Lee ha scritto:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Just want to quickly confirm if this is a bug or configuration problem
>> myself.
>>
>> I removed hal on my system to test upower support in lxsession-logout.
>>
>> And it seems doens't work as expected. Click on shutdown/reboot brings
>> polkit popup window for request root password. But the window disappear
>> very quickly before I can type the password and press enter.
>>
>> So, results the shutdown and reboot functions both doesn't work at all
>> without hal.
>>
>> Does anyone here experienced the same problem or may reproduce this as well?
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> -Andrew
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[Lxde-list] upower support in lxsession-logout

[Andrew Lee]

Hi,

Just want to quickly confirm if this is a bug or configuration problem
myself.

I removed hal on my system to test upower support in lxsession-logout.

And it seems doens't work as expected. Click on shutdown/reboot brings
polkit popup window for request root password. But the window disappear
very quickly before I can type the password and press enter.

So, results the shutdown and reboot functions both doesn't work at all
without hal.

Does anyone here experienced the same problem or may reproduce this as well?

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Re: [Lxde-list] screen brightness problem

[Andrew Lee]

On 2010年06月16日 09:30, eda...@gmail.com wrote:
> I just installed Fedora LXDE in my laptop. Everything worked except that
> the screen brightness was not adjustable. I googled around and found some
> suggestions like changing the value in
> /proc/acpi/video/VGA//brightness, or changing the value of
> /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness. Unfortunately, neither
> worked... Could someone please tell me how to solve this problem? Thanks.

This is not LXDE related but kernel and acpid settings problem. However
I share info here cause I also got the same problem on my new thinkpad
laptop.

The way to solve it has two steps.

1st step, kernel module part:
- Run acpi_listen in console
- Press the hotkeys to make sure kernel sends the ACPI event out into
console

2nd step, acpid part:
- Adjust or write event/action scripts to update the sysfs for it.

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Re: [Lxde-list] LXDE Meeting 2010-06-10 14:00

[Andrew Lee]

Hi Christoph,

Thanks organize this LXDE meet up. I'd like to propose some topics for
discussion. Please read topics below, and add up your questions/topics.

On 2010年06月09日 17:15, Christoph Wickert wrote:
> Hi everybody,
> 
> the poll about the meeting time has a result now. The LXDE community
> will meet on 
> 
> Thursday, June 10th from 14:00 - 17:00.
> We will meet at the Sidux booth¹.

@LXDE foundation people, please attend this meet up. We have very
important question/discussion for LXDE community to discuss:

How can the LXDE foundation starts up without invlove orginal LXDE
founder and developers?
How can the LXDE foundation invlove original LXDE founder and developers
and future new contributors?
How the LXDE developers can make decisions and who to make decisions
inside of the foundation?
How the LXDE foundation can help developers?
How LXDE foundation give transparency to developers and members.

> The BBQ will properly take place later that day at c-base².

Nice. Distros maintainers may enjoy the beers and BBQ at c-base to
discuss and share about the technique topics with community during this
time.

I'd propose the discussion on
- pcmanfm 0.9 series
- Design of LXDM
- Debian's LXDE packaging team
- about how to proceed with the LXDE Foundation

Look forward to have a nice LXDE meet up.

-Andrew

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[Lxde-list] In Berlin, 8-12 June

[Andrew Lee]

Hello guys,

I am now in Berlin for LinuxTag. I'd attend mini-DebConf, debian-dinner
and LXDE BBQ(don't know when exactly yet?). If anyone would like to meet
up for beers and/or key signing. Please drop me a line here or on IRC.

Cheers,

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Re: [Lxde-list] bookmarking broken in pcmanfm-0.97

[Andrew Lee]

Hi,

Gour wrote:
> I'm running PCmanFM-0.97 and noticed that Bookmarking is broken,
> i.e. I can add ne bookmark to the sidebar, but clicking on it always
> brings me to the $HOME only?

I cannot reproduce this problem, it works fine for me.

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Re: [Lxde-list] compiz support?

[Andrew Lee]

Hi Marty,

I played a bit with compiz on my old aspireone since yesterday. Compare
to xcompmgr, it was faster by my eye! :)

And I understood what do you mentioned in this mail. The workspace
switcher and application bar don't work correctly as it thoughts it's
only on one desktop.

@Klaus, did you do any magic to make workspace switcher works in Knoppix?

Kindly regards,

-Andrew

Marty Jack wrote:
> The issues I have found are these.
> 
> Compiz does not honor the strut when it places windows, so if you have a top 
> panel, it is frequently the case that the panel covers the title bar of a 
> window that is newly opened.  There is nothing we can do for this beyond 
> hoping Compiz fixes it because the window manager controls window placement.
> 
> Compiz Wall and Cube use viewports rather than desktops to represent the 
> multiple screen pages.  The panel as it exists is insensitive to viewports 
> and thus the pager and the other controls on the taskbar right click menu to 
> move windows between screen pages don't function properly.
> 
> In lxsession-logout, it uses a fullscreen window to gray out the screen and a 
> separate dialog window to put up the controls, both of which it attempts to 
> place above all others.  This works well in Openbox.  In Compiz, I find that 
> sometimes the fullscreen window draws after the dialog and covers it so you 
> are stuck.  I have solved this by using one fullscreen window that contains 
> everything.
> 
> There are a couple minor issues with what Compiz reports in _NET_SUPPORTED.  
> At some point I will send some patches upstream for these.
> 
> On 02/20/2010 05:16 AM, Andrew Lee wrote:
>> Hi Marty and Klaus,
>>
>> Marty Jack wrote:
>>> I am also doing some work on lxsession-logout to make it work better with 
>>> Compiz and to support more recent mechanisms for doing what it does.  More 
>>> information shortly after I do a little more research.
>>>   
>> I have impressed on how smoothly LXDE may works with compiz as Klaus'
>> Knoppix on EeePC 701.
>> I wonder does any way to make compiz reads customize profile similar to
>> we have for openbox-lxde?
>>
>> A customize profile which keeps the same hotheys as openbox-lxde has
>> would be really nice for our users.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> -Andrew
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[Lxde-list] lxlauncher with menu-cache 0.3 series

[Andrew Lee]

Hi,

Since menu-cache 0.3 series are already released for long. Should we
freeze the strings in lxlauncher and make new release on lxlauncher to
support 0.3 series soon? Or if lxlauncher developer has any plan to add
new features?

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Re: [Lxde-list] LXSession 0.4.4 is released

[Andrew Lee]

PCMan wrote:
> This release contains:
> 1. Little fix for freedesktop.org autostart handling.
> 2. LTSP (Linux terminal server project) support.

Cheer for a LTSP support release! I closed the feature request on SF and
I'd upload it to Debian tonight.

@Marty, I noticed these warnings in lxsession-logout while packaging
it(sorry I should have to noticed earlier). These are minor issues, just
in case if these info would useful for you.

dpkg-shlibdeps: warning: dependency on libfontconfig.so.1 could be
avoided if "debian/lxsession/usr/bin/lxsession-logout" were not
uselessly linked against it (they use none of its symbols).
dpkg-shlibdeps: warning: dependency on libm.so.6 could be avoided if
"debian/lxsession/usr/bin/lxsession-logout" were not uselessly linked
against it (they use none of its symbols).
dpkg-shlibdeps: warning: dependency on libatk-1.0.so.0 could be avoided
if "debian/lxsession/usr/bin/lxsession-logout" were not uselessly linked
against it (they use none of its symbols).
dpkg-shlibdeps: warning: dependency on librt.so.1 could be avoided if
"debian/lxsession/usr/bin/lxsession-logout" were not uselessly linked
against it (they use none of its symbols).
dpkg-shlibdeps: warning: dependency on libgio-2.0.so.0 could be avoided
if "debian/lxsession/usr/bin/lxsession-logout" were not uselessly linked
against it (they use none of its symbols).
dpkg-shlibdeps: warning: dependency on libgmodule-2.0.so.0 could be
avoided if "debian/lxsession/usr/bin/lxsession-logout" were not
uselessly linked against it (they use none of its symbols).
dpkg-shlibdeps: warning: dependency on libcairo.so.2 could be avoided if
"debian/lxsession/usr/bin/lxsession-logout" were not uselessly linked
against it (they use none of its symbols).
dpkg-shlibdeps: warning: dependency on libpango-1.0.so.0 could be
avoided if "debian/lxsession/usr/bin/lxsession-logout" were not
uselessly linked against it (they use none of its symbols).
dpkg-shlibdeps: warning: dependency on libgthread-2.0.so.0 could be
avoided if "debian/lxsession/usr/bin/lxsession-logout" were not
uselessly linked against it (they use none of its symbols).
dpkg-shlibdeps: warning: dependency on libpangocairo-1.0.so.0 could be
avoided if "debian/lxsession/usr/bin/lxsession-logout" were not
uselessly linked against it (they use none of its symbols).
dpkg-shlibdeps: warning: dependency on libfreetype.so.6 could be avoided
if "debian/lxsession/usr/bin/lxsession-logout" were not uselessly linked
against it (they use none of its symbols).
dpkg-shlibdeps: warning: dependency on libpangoft2-1.0.so.0 could be
avoided if "debian/lxsession/usr/bin/lxsession-logout" were not
uselessly linked against it (they use none of its symbols).

Thanks for the lxsession-logout rework and added LTSP support!

-Andrew

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Re: [Lxde-list] [LXDE Translation] release process anybody?

[Andrew Lee]

Hi Marion,

I just reset the password and got login. I really didn't know I had an
account for so long.

Thanks.

-Andrew

Mario Behling wrote:
> Hi Andrew,
> 
> you are user4 in the system. I think we made a login for you a long
> time ago.. maybe very long.
> 
> Login: http://blog.lxde.org/wp-admin
> User name: Andrew Lee
> Password: ***
> - Request a new password at the login page
> 
> Your email address in the system is and...@lxde.org.
> 
> All the best,
> 
> Mario
> 
> 
> On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 9:50 PM, Andrew Lee  wrote:
>> Hi Mario,
>>
>> I haven't got a login to the blog system yet.
>>
>> -Andrew
>>
>> Mario Behling wrote:
>>> It would also be good, if we could announce new releases in the blog
>>> generally. If anybody of the release team has not got a login to the
>>> blog yet, please let me know.
>>>
>>> Any blog entry is also broadcasted on twitter now.
>>>
>>> Let's also see if we can have a newsletter for the release category.
>>>
>>> - Mario
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 11:39 PM, Mario Behling  wrote:
>>>> Hi brother,
>>>>
>>>> I put up a wiki page here: http://wiki.lxde.org/en/Category:Releases
>>>>
>>>> Please correct it and adapt it so it suits the process.
>>>>
>>>> Questions to consider:
>>>> * Do we want to keep release notes in the wiki as well?
>>>> * Would it be a good idea to decide on a release manager for single
>>>> (major) components, who is the main responsible and follows up in case
>>>> the process slows down or so? Previously there did not seem to be a
>>>> need though.
>>>>
>>>> I also set up a wiki page to keep a list of releases of components.
>>>> Reckoned it would be a good idea:
>>>> http://wiki.lxde.org/en/LXDE_Releases
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Mario
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 9:26 PM, Martin Bagge / brother  
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 6 Apr 2010, Christoph Wickert wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I think we agreed to use a proper release process recently. This means
>>>>>> that releases should be announced to give translators and testers a
>>>>>> chance to look over them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please don't release anything without testing it properly. Broken
>>>>>> releases are a damage to the whole LXDE project.
>>>>> We have gained alot of speed the last six month or so and I think the
>>>>> future looks bright but the lack of a proper process of things is
>>>>> disturbing and might jeopardize things.
>>>>>
>>>>> We have discussed this before and a good proposal was made with people
>>>>> agreeing to stick to it. We haven't really used it but I think we should
>>>>> give it another try. A proper release team and release process will ensure
>>>>> quality in our products and avoid shitty releases that influx on other of
>>>>> our products that has and will be great.
>>>>>
>>>>> A release team with a clear and _easy_ process.
>>>>> Using freeze periods.
>>>>> Release dependent components together - without long waiting.
>>>>>
>>>>> Christoph and I have already told before that we are willing to work with
>>>>> this process.
>>>>> Some of the other packagers I seem to recall in this is Andrea and Andrew,
>>>>> and at IRC there have been more voices raised for this.
>>>>> As far as I can see we can cover the major distributions package managers
>>>>> as front line testers and I can handle the translation errors and call for
>>>>> updates. As long as developers just producs code and tell us when to start
>>>>> the process it will float and if you don't want to engage in the release
>>>>> process you don't have to.
>>>>>
>>>>> When do we start? Can we have a wiki page with all the relevant steps and
>>>>> procedures?
>>>>>
>>>>> --
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Re: [Lxde-list] [LXDE Translation] release process anybody?

[Andrew Lee]

Hi Mario,

I haven't got a login to the blog system yet.

-Andrew

Mario Behling wrote:
> It would also be good, if we could announce new releases in the blog
> generally. If anybody of the release team has not got a login to the
> blog yet, please let me know.
> 
> Any blog entry is also broadcasted on twitter now.
> 
> Let's also see if we can have a newsletter for the release category.
> 
> - Mario
> 
> 
> On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 11:39 PM, Mario Behling  wrote:
>> Hi brother,
>>
>> I put up a wiki page here: http://wiki.lxde.org/en/Category:Releases
>>
>> Please correct it and adapt it so it suits the process.
>>
>> Questions to consider:
>> * Do we want to keep release notes in the wiki as well?
>> * Would it be a good idea to decide on a release manager for single
>> (major) components, who is the main responsible and follows up in case
>> the process slows down or so? Previously there did not seem to be a
>> need though.
>>
>> I also set up a wiki page to keep a list of releases of components.
>> Reckoned it would be a good idea:
>> http://wiki.lxde.org/en/LXDE_Releases
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Mario
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 9:26 PM, Martin Bagge / brother  
>> wrote:
>>> On Tue, 6 Apr 2010, Christoph Wickert wrote:
>>>
 I think we agreed to use a proper release process recently. This means
 that releases should be announced to give translators and testers a
 chance to look over them.

 Please don't release anything without testing it properly. Broken
 releases are a damage to the whole LXDE project.
>>> We have gained alot of speed the last six month or so and I think the
>>> future looks bright but the lack of a proper process of things is
>>> disturbing and might jeopardize things.
>>>
>>> We have discussed this before and a good proposal was made with people
>>> agreeing to stick to it. We haven't really used it but I think we should
>>> give it another try. A proper release team and release process will ensure
>>> quality in our products and avoid shitty releases that influx on other of
>>> our products that has and will be great.
>>>
>>> A release team with a clear and _easy_ process.
>>> Using freeze periods.
>>> Release dependent components together - without long waiting.
>>>
>>> Christoph and I have already told before that we are willing to work with
>>> this process.
>>> Some of the other packagers I seem to recall in this is Andrea and Andrew,
>>> and at IRC there have been more voices raised for this.
>>> As far as I can see we can cover the major distributions package managers
>>> as front line testers and I can handle the translation errors and call for
>>> updates. As long as developers just producs code and tell us when to start
>>> the process it will float and if you don't want to engage in the release
>>> process you don't have to.
>>>
>>> When do we start? Can we have a wiki page with all the relevant steps and
>>> procedures?
>>>
>>> --
>>> brother
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Re: [Lxde-list] Introduction

[Andrew Lee]

Hi Shae,

Shae Smittle wrote:
> I am sure some of you know me and some of you don't.  My name is Shae
> Smittle and for some time I have worked on U-lite.  With the creation of

I am working on LXDE packaging for Debian 6.0 release. I was looking for
better artworks on #lxde IRC channel. And PCMan suggested to ask if you
want to put the nice artworks from U-lite into Debian?

However, to change default artwork in LXDE is possible too, and we
better to have a contest. :)

Kindly regards,

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Re: [Lxde-list] LXSession 0.4.3 released

[Andrew Lee]

Hi Marty,

Marty Jack wrote:
> GDM Switch User flow path restored as we discussed.  If anyone would like a 
> tarball release, kindly advise.

Cool! Thank you very much for the quickly fix!

Bump version and make new release tarball with each small fix very often
might be annoying to our users.

I may package it with your patches from git for our users. It would be
nice to pending this tarball release until some more nice new features
been added. :)

Cheers,

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Re: [Lxde-list] LXDE thai translate

[Andrew Lee]

Hi Prach and Kamthorn, (hi Martin),

Thanks for your interests to translate lxde to Thai. \o/

Prach Pongpanich wrote:
> I interest to translate lxde to thai and now i was registered account
> at http://pootle.lxde.bsnet.se/
> but i don't have permission to edit mode.  ( I and Komthorn)

@Martin, could you please help on this?

Or we have switched to Transifex service after we switched all
development VCS from svn to git?

> Can you suggest me for this ?.

There is an email[1] about new git repository and transifex service for
translation from PCMan on Feb.

But this doesn't mention on
http://wiki.lxde.org/en/Category:Translations

I don't usually help on translation stuffs in LXDE, I might be wrong
here. However, I think Martin would glad to help and guide you two
through the process. :)

[1]http://mailinglist.lxde.org/pipermail/translation/2010-February/000475.html

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Re: [Lxde-list] One more LXTerminal

[Andrew Lee]

Hi Marty,

Thanks for carrying on this report. :)

Marty Jack wrote:
> This bug
> 
> http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=2977128&group_id=180858&atid=894869
> 
> complains that this commit
> 
> http://lxde.git.sourceforge.net/git/gitweb.cgi?p=lxde/lxterminal;a=commit;h=efb19fd64a04c9376fd8f44190ec225fe13f1f4d
> 
> causes a severe performance degradation and would like it reverted.  Comments 
> please.

It's a nice feature, many users may like it, but some users do not.

Not sure if provide option for enable(disable by default) this feature
may avoid performance degradation depends on user's preference?

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Re: [Lxde-list] LXSession 0.4.3 released

[Andrew Lee]

Christoph Wickert wrote:
> Can everybody confirm that it is /var/run/gdm.pid on their system, too?

Confirmed it's /var/run/gdm.pid on Debian system too.

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Re: [Lxde-list] LXSession 0.4.3 released

[Andrew Lee]

Hi Marty,

Marty Jack wrote:
> This fixes the regression on position of the Logout button (sorry
about that!), picks up PCMan's improvement to the widget structure, some
missing includes, and the ability to have environment variables in the
autostart file.

Thanks for the quickly correction and made a new release.

I just noticed "login as new user" feature are missing on the
lxsession-logout menu too.

Did you forget to add it while your re-written work or it's been removed
for some reason?

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Re: [Lxde-list] CrunchBang 10 "Statler", coming soon

[Andrew Lee]

Chris Watkins wrote:
> The new version will be based on Debian Squeeze (testing) sources,
> rather than Ubuntu.
> 
> *CrunchBang 10 "Statler", coming soon
> *

Wow, CrunchBang 10 switched to be based on Debian! I wish I can help to
integrate stuffs from crunchbang into Debian(if crunchbang developers
wants) to make CrunchBang become part of Debian(my wish). \o/

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Re: [Lxde-list] Forum.lxde.org is down

[Andrew Lee]

Hi PCMan and all LXDE developers/users,

(cc to admins: cwhuang and ycheng)

Sorry for all the inconvenient,

after investigated, it was a unexpected crash on squid daemon. Druing
that time, all the httpd on the machine were inaccessibled.

Might be related, we are still runnig the squid from etch which is out
of security support from Debian. However one of our admin - cwhuang
reported the squid daemon in lenny doesn't work with git repo as
transparent proxy. So we may consider to upgrade the squid daemon until
the probelm fixed or got a work around.

@Auther, would that be possible to get additional dedicated IP addresses
instead of use reverse proxy on the machine?

Waves from Thailand,

-Andrew

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> The forum seems to be down again.
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Re: [Lxde-list] lxmusic 0.4.2 and xmms2 0.7

[Andrew Lee]

Hi Shan-Bin,

Let me clasify what do we want to do.

As edhunter, slam and gilir's requests for co-maintainship on our Debian
packages. We formed a Debian LXDE packaging team on alioth. We use the
team mailing list to track all of LXDE related packages on maintainer's
page, and we put packages into git repo under alioth's collab-maint/ to
open the access to everyone who interested to help to.

Shan-Bin Chen (DreamerC) wrote:
> At the start, I don't have any account on https://alioth.debian.org/ ,

You may register an alioth account here:
https://alioth.debian.org/account/register.php

> and I'm trying to know how to use the system.
> All patches on GitHub including backports and testing versions.
> 
> http://github.com/dreamerc

Seems you have done a good exercise on github with debian's git
packaging tools. It would be nice if your git repository would be also
put under collab-maint/ for others who may interested to help.

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Re: [Lxde-list] lxde-logout button order

[Andrew Lee]

Hi Marty, hi IVan,

Thanks Marty. (Sorry, I read/write slowly and didn't see your mail
before my previous mail.)

I'd upload this correction for squeeze. :)

@Ivan, thanks for reporting this too.

Cheers,

-Andrew

Marty Jack wrote:
> The intention was to keep it identical.  I will investigate and correct 
> whatever changed.
> 
> On 03/18/2010 05:55 AM, Ivan Miljenovic wrote:
>> I've been using LXDE for a while now, and I've gotten used to
>> mod+shift+q to bring up lxde-logout (the keyboard shortcut is set
>> within my window manager XMonad) and then hitting space to shut down
>> my computer.  However, I've noticed recently that after I upgraded to
>> lxsession 0.4.2, the first option is now "logout" rather than "shut
>> down", which confused me to no end the first time or two I tried this
>> after upgrading.
>>
>> Was there any particular reason for this change?  Do people really log
>> out more often than shut down when using LXDE?
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Re: [Lxde-list] lxde-logout button order

[Andrew Lee]

Hi Ivan, Hi Marty,

I also noticed this too while I test the package localy. I felt it may
confuse our user as I was confused too.

I haven't upload the package into Debian yet. I hope this is just a
mistake that we can easily get it back to original behavior for our users?

@Marty, maybe I an wrong as you may have some particular reason for this
change. Could you please explain a bit?

Thanks,

-Andrew

Ivan Miljenovic wrote:
> I've been using LXDE for a while now, and I've gotten used to
> mod+shift+q to bring up lxde-logout (the keyboard shortcut is set
> within my window manager XMonad) and then hitting space to shut down
> my computer.  However, I've noticed recently that after I upgraded to
> lxsession 0.4.2, the first option is now "logout" rather than "shut
> down", which confused me to no end the first time or two I tried this
> after upgrading.
> 
> Was there any particular reason for this change?  Do people really log
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Re: [Lxde-list] From here at least, the forum is still not reachable

[Andrew Lee]

Hi,

Thanks for Marty's notice.

Seems we ran out of momery, probably got too many connections and reach
the memory limit on the vserver guest. The problam has gone as I double
sized the memory limit and restarted.

@MWei, do you have time to check the forum to prevent it ran out of
momery easily?

Sorry for the inconvenience to all,

-Andrew

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> * Connection to 10.0.0.14 Failed 
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Re: [Lxde-list] webpage unavailable

[Andrew Lee]

Sorry for the inconvenience.

I just arrived home, and the lxde website works for me now.

Thanks YCheng for solving the problem.

-Andrew

Mario Behling wrote:
> Thanks for keeping an eye on it. During server maintenance some
> configurations had to be changed effecting LXDE.org now. It should be
> fixed in a few hours by Andrew Lee.
> 
> - Mario
> 
> 
> On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 5:17 AM, Shae Smittle  wrote:
>> I can confirm this is still the case.
>>
>> Shae Smittle
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 2:13 PM, Martin Bagge  wrote:
>>> http://www.lxde.org returns an proxy like error.
>>>
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Re: [Lxde-list] webpage unavailable

[Andrew Lee (李健秋）]

Thanks for your notice. I'm currently outside without key to access to  
the host. I will be home around 6hrs.

I cc this mail to other admins YCheng and CWHuang for help in the  
meantime.

-Andrew

在 2010/3/11 下午5:00 時，Mario Behling  寫到：

> Thanks for keeping an eye on it. During server maintenance some
> configurations had to be changed effecting LXDE.org now. It should be
> fixed in a few hours by Andrew Lee.
>
> - Mario
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 5:17 AM, Shae Smittle   
> wrote:
>> I can confirm this is still the case.
>>
>> Shae Smittle
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 2:13 PM, Martin Bagge   
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> http://www.lxde.org returns an proxy like error.
>>>
>>> --
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[Lxde-list] compiz support?

[Andrew Lee]

Hi Marty and Klaus,

Marty Jack wrote:
> I am also doing some work on lxsession-logout to make it work better with 
> Compiz and to support more recent mechanisms for doing what it does.  More 
> information shortly after I do a little more research.
>   
I have impressed on how smoothly LXDE may works with compiz as Klaus'
Knoppix on EeePC 701.
I wonder does any way to make compiz reads customize profile similar to
we have for openbox-lxde?

A customize profile which keeps the same hotheys as openbox-lxde has
would be really nice for our users.

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Re: [Lxde-list] Prepare to migrate from svn to git if there is no objection.

[Andrew Lee]

Hi PCMan, (hi all),

I don't see the benefit for the migration of the repository myself as I
commit not much as I mainly do packaging for Debian. And I have to learn
and setup something new for new VCS.

However, I do respect the coders who commit very often as the project
needs more coders than packagers.

Please consider to take the opinions from active coders and translators
rather than packagers.

Kindly regards,

-Andrew

PCMan wrote:
> Hello,
> As previously mentioned, a dvcs might benefit this project, and also
> svn is too slow so we need a new vcs.
> If there is no objection, I proposed that we can prepare to migrate to git.
> The migration won't be done before pootle integration with git gets
> done; otherwise this will break translation workflow.
> Here are the things we need to prepare for the migration:
> 
> 1. A list of acount name and real name  mapping. Something like this:
> pcmanx = Hong Jen Yee 
> jserv = Jim Huang 
> juergenhoetzel = Jürgen Hötzel <...>
> 
> 
> We already have a list of devs on
> https://sourceforge.net/project/admin/project_membership.php?group_id=180858
> but we still need the E-mail address and real names of the
> contributors to complete this mapping.
> 
> 2. All translators should get registered on brother's pootle server
>  or Transifex.net
> . In the future translation will be done
> trough those services and direct full access to all git repos will be
> limited to core developers who writes source code only for security
> reasons.
> 
> 3. Pootle server and transifex.net service should be set up to handle
> git pull/push correctly.
> 
> After those things get prepared, we can migrate to git cleanly. If
> there is any objection, feel free to leave your comment.
> 
> Bonus: maybe we can have some git hooks to sync changes in git to svn
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Re: [Lxde-list] Hold release of LXApperance?

[Andrew Lee]

Hi Julien,

Julien Lavergne wrote:
> It seems that some changes occurred between the last call for testing
> and the release of 0.4.0. I can see a new bug : UI for changing the
> window theme (1st tab) is different, and now all icons doesn't appear
> with the default size of the window. This is annoying because you need
> to resize it at each startup.

I don't see problem on my system. I am not sure if I know what do you
mean exactly. Would you mind to provide a screenshot?

> There is also another bug, but it seems to be cause by a recent update
> (maybe GTK) on Ubuntu 10.04 : when you launch it with lxterminal, and
> you clic on "Apply", the background of lxterminal change to white
> (instead of black).

I also cannot reproduce this on Debian sid. I just uploaded this package
into sid. Hope it would helpful.

Best regards,

-Andrew

> Le jeudi 31 décembre 2009 à 15:56 +0100, Martin Bagge / brother a
> écrit :
>> Hi everyone
>> As announced earlier this month we are about to release LXApperance, the 
>> string freeze period is over. Problem is that I have not been able to add 
>> files from the tracker at SF and mwei[1] prodded about some issue at the 
>> IRC channel. Lastly, I can not do the release, I have no knowledge about 
>> how to and looking at the SF pages earlier this week I could not find out 
>> how to do it.
>>
>> [1]  lxappearance cannot run with the newest svn version, and 
>> main-dlg-ui.{c,h} are missing. Is it a UI redesign?
>>
>>
>> The following things is needed as far as I can tell.
>> 1) check with mwie about what's wrong / test the trunk again
>> 2) add po files (there might not be any) from SF.net patch tracker
>> 3) release
>> 4) announce it in a proper way.
>>
>> And a happy new year (when ever it might happen, time zone wise or 
>> cultural =))
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Re: [Lxde-list] Hold release of LXApperance?

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Martin Bagge wrote:
>> The following things is needed as far as I can tell.
>> 1) check with mwie about what's wrong / test the trunk again

Does matter, I've tested the SVN version. It works fine on Debian.

>> 2) add po files (there might not be any) from SF.net patch tracker

Skip.

>> 3) release

Just find the way to upload the tarball to SF.net. It should be display
now on that.

>> 4) announce it in a proper way.

I cannot find a way to edit the release note of the tarball on SF.net.

Below are the changes(collected from svn log) in this release:
 - Replace all Glade-generated code with GtkBuilder
 - Use icon names defined in newer icon naming spec.
 - UI adjustment
 - Fix memory leaks and compiler warnings.
 - Translation update

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Re: [Lxde-list] LXDM : read system infos from /etc/sysconfig

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Christoph Wickert wrote:
>>> IMHO, distro-specific stuff should only belong to patches rather than
>>> be included in upstream code
>> I totally agree.
> 
> And I have to say I disagree. /etc/sysconfig/* is not really distro
> specfic, it is used by many distros: Fedora, Red Hat, (Open)SUSE,
> Mandriva, Foresight, and many more (basically all that use Red Hat's
> initscripts and this is nearly everything but Debian/Ubuntu).

I agree with PCMan's opinion. These should only belong to patches rather
than included in upstream code.

We shouldn't argue here on how many distros use /etc/sysconfig/*. And
there are more than just Linux Distros. We also have users who would use
lxde with OpenSolaris, *BSD... and so on.

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Re: [Lxde-list] patch to support url distinguishment in lxterminal

[Andrew Lee]

Hi lxterminal developers,

Does any plan to release a new lxterminal to include the new feature
provided by Liu Yubao?

Best regards,

-Andrew

Liu Yubao wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm sorry to disturb you, but it has been one month since this
> patch is accepted by upstream, lxterminal doesn't got a new
> release yet, I can't find any project plan for LXDE and lxterminal.
> 
> Can we have a Debian-specified release for this feature now? 
> I wouldn't like to maintain a local package for a long time
> and I think this feature is very useful.
> 
> Or when will an official release for lxterminal be announced?
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Liu Yubao
> 
> Andrew Lee wrote:
>> Hi Yubao and Fred),
>>
>> I'd love to update my package in Debian to have this ASAP. But I prefer
>> to package a new upstream release.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> -Andrew
>>
>> Fred Chien wrote:
>>> Hi Yuboa,
>>>
>>> Thanks for your patch!
>>>
>>> I've commited this patch with some modifications to svn, and also your
>>> name has been added to AUTHOR file already.
>>>
>>> This feature will appear in SVN 2146 and be included by next release
>>> version.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Fred
>>>
>>> Liu Yubao:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I failed to commit bug report for Debian and the mailing list
>>>> of lxde.org seems not active, so I send the patches to you directly,
>>>> sorry if that's inconvenient!
>>>>
>>>> I have used lxterminal 0.1.6-1 on Debian for serveral months, it's
>>>> a pity lxterminal doesn't support url distinguishment because I often
>>>> use it to login BBS with telnet/ssh, it's very inconvenient to follow
>>>> links on BBS.
>>>>
>>>> The attachments contain patches to fix this problem, the code is stolen
>>>> from tilda (another good terminal emulator, GPL licensed) and made some
>>>> small modification.
>>>>
>>>> The patches are applied on lxterminal 0.1.6-1 on Debian Sid.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>>
>>>> Liu Yubao
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   
>>
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Re: [Lxde-list] LXAppearance cleanup and new version 0.4

[Andrew Lee]

Hi Andrea,

You rised up a very good question that I'd like to ask long time ago. I
wish to hear the answer too from the developer who made this.

Kindly regards,

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Andrea Florio wrote:
> it also works fine here.. only a bug from my side...
> 
> if "--enable-man" is NOT used, configure succeded but make fail
> 
> IMHO you should remove this option and make it default OR if
> --enable-man is NOT used, the make file will NOT HAVE TO BUILD MAN PAGES
> 
> Andrea
> 
> 
> Il 20/12/2009 17:37, Zsolt Peter Basak ha scritto:
>> Thanks to Brother's hint , after updating lxde-common also it finally works.
>> (For some reason I have to move the mouse and click one to get logged in,
>> dunno why, but thats maybe just a problem related to the VM). Anyway,
>> everything works, except the "Text only" mode. (Other tab). BUT that's not a
>> lxappearance bug. Tried to specify that in .gtkrc from GTK reference doc and
>> it works.. on an older distro. Beats me if its a GTK but or something else.
> 
>> Sorry for the mails / for giving headache for some person.
> 
>> Shiki
> 
>> On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Andrew Lee  wrote:
> 
>>> Hi PCMan,(hi list),
>>>
>>> I also tested it works fine here.
>>>
>>> I'd suggest to let brother-_ to publish the final release tarball as the
>>> svn should freeze for his translation update.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> -Andrew
>>>
>>> Julien Lavergne wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> It's working after some quick testing on Ubuntu 10.04 :
>>>> - generate tarball with ./autogen.sh && ./configure --enable-man && make
>>>> dist
>>>> - Successful building
>>>> - Successful installing & running
>>>> - Successful changing icon theme and gtk engine
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Julien Lavergne
>>>>
>>>> Le samedi 19 décembre 2009 à 18:17 +0800, PCMan a écrit :
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> I just did some cleanup for LXAppearance.
>>>>> Now the Glade-generated parts were replaced by GtkBuilder and the
>>>>> files and code looked slightly cleaner.
>>>>> Also some little fixes were done.
>>>>> Version 0.4.0 will be released recently.
>>>>> Please get it tested.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: [Lxde-list] PPA/Ubuntu backports

[Andrew Lee]

Hi Shiki,

There is no major release on LXDE yet as like other DE does. LXDE is
component based, and these are components update, not a major release of
LXDE.

Best regards,

-Andrew

Zsolt Peter Basak wrote:
> Ehm thats why I wrote on the description that I tested them out and they
> work at the current date. Thats why I update every major release, thats
> why I check them before upgrading my PPA. Ehh.
> 
> Anyway, how could we start an official one? Delete everything and start
> from scratch? Since Mario said use the LXDE team's one. But that's
> slightly outdate. So... Which way?
> 
> On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Julien Lavergne  > wrote:
> 
> LXDE didn't have an official backport PPA (or I missed a link on the
> wiki). It's the problem with PPA, you can't stop people create
> repository with random software inside. If you want to create a PPA to
> backport packages, and make it official, you need also to maintain it
> (updated, fixed when there is problem when using in another version
> etc ...).
> 
> Regards,
> Julien Lavergne
> 
> Le dimanche 20 décembre 2009 à 11:07 +0100, Zsolt Peter Basak a écrit :
> > Hello everyone!
> >
> >
> > I just want to ask a small question. Today, I found a new PPA which is
> > supposed to provide fresh LXDE packages. To be honest I started a PPA
> > back then for the exact same aim.
> >
> >
> > One guy told me on IRC that he had found this after the default
> > install. Its located here:
> > https://launchpad.net/~lxde/+archive/ppa
> >
> >
> > Its a bit old.
> >
> >
> > Here is mine:
> > https://launchpad.net/~shiki/+archive/lxde
> >
> >
> > I just want to ask .. shouldn't we just provide ONE? Should I delete
> > mine? Since some people now thinks thats the 'original PPA' (if we
> > talk about PPAs, no such thing exists for sure) and wait for new
> > softwares. (Which will never come).
> >
> >
> > Thanks for the answers.
> > Best Regards
> > Shiki
> >
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Re: [Lxde-list] PPA/Ubuntu backports

[Andrew Lee]

Hi,

>From the discussion on #lxde,
20:34 < AndrewLee> strohi: does ubuntu has backports like debian with
backports.org?
20:34 < AndrewLee> oops, wrong person
20:34 < AndrewLee> shiki is not here
20:35 < strohi> they have some stranges ppas over launchpad .. if you
mean this
20:35 < strohi> but an official backports, i dont know
20:36 < AndrewLee> strohi: hehe, I saw that on the mailing list.
20:36 < AndrewLee> strohi: that's why I'd like to ask shiki
20:36 < strohi> ok :)
21:42 < cassmodiah> AndrewLee, ubuntu has an own backports repo
21:42 < cassmodiah> deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
(YOURRELEASE)-backports main restricted universe multiverse
21:43 < cassmodiah> you can choose another server of course
21:47 < szczur> AndrewLee, if you're using Synaptic then go to the
Settings >> Repositories
21:48 < szczur> select the Updates tab and tick the
-backports :)
21:49 < szczur> http://szczur.ath.cx/back.png

Best regards,

-Andrew

Mario Behling wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> thanks for the question. Let us use the LXDE PPA, so everyone can work
> together and test from here.
> 
> - Mario
> 
> On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 5:07 PM, Zsolt Peter Basak
>  wrote:
>> Hello everyone!
>> I just want to ask a small question. Today, I found a new PPA which is
>> supposed to provide fresh LXDE packages. To be honest I started a PPA back
>> then for the exact same aim.
>> One guy told me on IRC that he had found this after the default install. Its
>> located here:
>> https://launchpad.net/~lxde/+archive/ppa
>> Its a bit old.
>> Here is mine:
>> https://launchpad.net/~shiki/+archive/lxde
>> I just want to ask .. shouldn't we just provide ONE? Should I delete mine?
>> Since some people now thinks thats the 'original PPA' (if we talk about
>> PPAs, no such thing exists for sure) and wait for new softwares. (Which will
>> never come).
>> Thanks for the answers.
>> Best Regards
>> Shiki
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Re: [Lxde-list] LXAppearance cleanup and new version 0.4

[Andrew Lee]

Hi PCMan,(hi list),

I also tested it works fine here.

I'd suggest to let brother-_ to publish the final release tarball as the
svn should freeze for his translation update.

Best regards,

-Andrew

Julien Lavergne wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> It's working after some quick testing on Ubuntu 10.04 :
> - generate tarball with ./autogen.sh && ./configure --enable-man && make
> dist
> - Successful building
> - Successful installing & running
> - Successful changing icon theme and gtk engine
> 
> Regards,
> Julien Lavergne 
> 
> Le samedi 19 décembre 2009 à 18:17 +0800, PCMan a écrit :
>> Hi all,
>> I just did some cleanup for LXAppearance.
>> Now the Glade-generated parts were replaced by GtkBuilder and the
>> files and code looked slightly cleaner.
>> Also some little fixes were done.
>> Version 0.4.0 will be released recently.
>> Please get it tested.
>>
>> Thanks
> 
> 
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Re: [Lxde-list] Menu-cache 0.2.6 is released

[Andrew Lee (李健秋）]

It was uploaded to FTP-master.d.o and I guess it's still now sitting  
at incoming. It will appear in sid soon and you will get it in the  
mirror site evntually.

-Andrew

在 2009/11/9 13:34 時，Klaus Knopper  寫到：

> Hi,
>
> On Mon, Nov 09, 2009 at 07:19:12PM +0800, Andrew Lee wrote:
>> PCMan wrote:
>>> This is an important bug-fix release.
>>> Packagers, please update your packages immeidateyl if possible.
>>
>> Thanks for the notice. The Debian package has been uploaded.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> -Andrew
>
> May I ask WHERE it has been uploaded to?
>
> apt-cache policy libmenu-cache0 still shows:
>
> libmenu-cache0:
>  Installed: 0.2.5-1
>  Candidate: 0.2.5-1
>  Version table:
>   *** 0.2.5-1 0
>   500 http://ftp.debian.org testing/main Packages
>   500 http://ftp.debian.org unstable/main Packages
>   100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
>
> after an aptitude update, of course.
>
> Regards
> -Klaus

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Re: [Lxde-list] Menu-cache 0.2.6 is released

[Andrew Lee]

PCMan wrote:
> This is an important bug-fix release.
> Packagers, please update your packages immeidateyl if possible.

Thanks for the notice. The Debian package has been uploaded.

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Re: [Lxde-list] Little update for LXDM

[Andrew Lee]

Julien Lavergne wrote:
> However, init scripts will be converted to upstart scripts soon. Ubuntu
> is not the only distro to provide upstart. Fedora is also using upstart
> and I'm sure they will switch to upstart scripts soon too. Debian will
> also switch to upstart instead of init.

I saw Debain just introduced new dependency-based boot scripts. Do you
have any reference link that proof Debian will also switch to upstart
instead of init?

> I don't know if Andrew Lee plan to package lxdm for Debian soon, I'll be
> happy to help or wait for his work for Ubuntu, as a display manager is
> not the most trivial package to do :)

I planed to package it for sure, and it would be ready in Debian when
it's ready.

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Re: [Lxde-list] Pcmanfm-develop post from brot...@bsnet.se requires approval

[Andrew Lee]

Martin Bagge wrote:

> and we ended up with a broken user experience. bad versus bad.
> point is. from the list below we (you or I or who ever) could have fixed
> all but 1 fuzzy strings for the first 20 languages. Three out of four fuzzy
> strings introduced where just about adding  The last one would
> be the "Group" => "To" move, that would need interaction from the
> translators. We have a really dedicated group of translators as you
> probably have seen in the svn logs. I would guess that 12 hours could have
> helped alot, 12 hours is not a release stopper imho.

No, we think we won't ended up with a broken user experience that much
as the distro packager(me here) should wait for a few days to upload the
package to Debian and wait a bit for the translations to be update.

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Re: [Lxde-list] lubuntu iso image

[Andrew Lee]

I haven't heard LXNM is ready yet. Probably worth a test on connman for now.

(still downloading the testing iso image)

-Andrew

Mario Behling wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> patches to the seed are in the bugtracker:
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/420513
> 
> Other patches will be submitted as we go on. LXDE specific patches go 
> upstream.
> 
> @ Andrew/Fred: Is the new LXNM already packaged as deb? We could do it
> here over the upcoming days in Berlin.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Mario
> 
> 
> On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 4:35 PM, Andrew Lee wrote:
>> Mario Behling wrote:
>>> the lubuntu project is advancing. lynxis just published a lubuntu test
>>> iso based on the seeds by David Sugar and additional patches. It is
>>> just 381 MB.
>>>
>>> Please download, test it and give feedback:
>>> http://lynxis.crew.c-base.org
>> Good. Where can we see the list of additional patches?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> -Andrew


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Re: [Lxde-list] lubuntu iso image

[Andrew Lee]

Mario Behling wrote:
> the lubuntu project is advancing. lynxis just published a lubuntu test
> iso based on the seeds by David Sugar and additional patches. It is
> just 381 MB.
> 
> Please download, test it and give feedback:
> http://lynxis.crew.c-base.org

Good. Where can we see the list of additional patches?

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[Lxde-list] lxpanel 0.5.x is getting slower

[Andrew Lee]

Dear all,

I saw there are some Debian users on IRC are looking for lxpanel 0.5. So
I'd like to say here. You won't find it in Sid cause I uploaded it into
experimental.

You might noticed the lxpanel 0.5.x is slow done as your CPU/Disk/VGA
are all expensive enough. I confirm it's absolutely slower than
previously version on my small netbook.

For these reasons I uploaded lxpanel 0.5.x into experimental in Debian:
* Uses more disk i/o
  - frequently see lxpanel process as D state in 'top'
* Keep dozen of little CPU usage
  - frequently 1% cpu usage in 'top'
  - easily see there is cpu usage on the CPU monitor plugin already
* Slow graph updates
  - you can often see the panel is flashing by the naked eye

Please confirm if you can reproduce these on your reasonable small
machines. :)

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[Lxde-list] lxpanel 0.5.x is getting slower

[Andrew Lee]

Dear all,

I saw there are some Debian users on IRC are looking for lxpanel 0.5. So
I'd like to say here. You won't find it in Sid cause I uploaded it into
experimental.

You might noticed the lxpanel 0.5.x is slow done as your CPU/Disk/VGA
are all expensive enough. I confirm it's absolutely slower than
previously version on my small netbook.

For these reasons I uploaded lxpanel 0.5.x into experimental in Debian:
* Uses more disk i/o
  - frequently see lxpanel process as D state in 'top'
* Keep dozen of little CPU usage
  - frequently 1% cpu usage in 'top'
  - easily see there is cpu usage on the CPU monitor plugin already
* Slow graph updates
  - you can often see the panel is flashing by the naked eye

Please confirm if you can reproduce these on your reasonable small
machines. :)

Regards,

-Andrew

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Re: [Lxde-list] LXDE developer gathering in Taiwan

[Andrew Lee]

Dear all,

The correct url for the wiki page:
http://wiki.lxde.org/en/Gathering/2009-09-Taipei

Participants may request accommodations and foods sonsorship, please
remember to add your name to the wiki-page if you are able to join us,
and send a separate email with your informations to apply accommodations
and foods sonsorship to Andrew Lee .

-Andrew

PCMan wrote:
> The organization "Software Liberty Asscocation of Taiwan" (SLAT) is
> planning a Internation Conference on Open Source in Taipei September 2009.
> 
> Taiwan is the place for LXDE's birth. And most of LXDE developers are
> based in Taiwan, so that many LXDE developers have been invited to this
> event. And one of our LXDE contributor Andrew Lee is one of the
> organziers. I think it's a good opportunity to have a LXDE developer
> gathering or CodeFest(depending on the number of people that are able to
> join us).
> 
> The event has a website announced will be held 25th-27th in Taipei:
>   http://icos.org.tw
> Hope this short notice would still be able to buy as cheap tickets as
> possible.
> 
> The gathering has its own information page on LXDE wiki:
>   http://wiki.lxde.org/Gathering/2009-10-Taipei
> 
> Participants may get accommodations and foods sonsorship, please
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Re: [Lxde-list] Anyone know what's up with the site?

[Andrew Lee]

Hi.

I just leave DebConf and now in Bangkok. I will look into this problem from
Thailand ASAP.

Thanks for your attentions.

-Andrew

2009/7/31 Sven Guckes 

> * Jürgen Hötzel  [2009-07-31 20:50]:
> > On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 06:45:27AM -0400, Marty Jack wrote:
> > > lxde.org has been unreachable from here for a day.
> > > Looks like a DNS server issue.
> > Still lxde.org DNS Names cannot get resolved.
>
> confirmed.
>
> i just talked to Mario Behling on the phone.
> apparently he has already contacted the
> web guy who is currently at debconf.
>
> so.. let's see what happens.
>
> Sven
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Re: [Lxde-list] OBS, a common develpment platform to provide multidistro packages

[Andrew Lee]

Hi,

For my opinion, this platform sounds cool for authors to by pass distros
maintainer and directly to users.

But in debian we need someone responsible for the packaging, so we will
repackage anyway for officially use for debian. If you want to provide
debian support, please use directory name other than debian/. Cause it
would cause more work for me as I would have to remove that while I am
packaging. :)

Thanks,

-Andrew


Christoph Wickert wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> apologies for the late reply.
> 
> Am Donnerstag, den 16.07.2009, 14:12 +0200 schrieb Andrea Florio: 
>> Christoph Wickert ha scritto:
>>
>>> OBS is good for developers to provide packages for different
>>> distributions without to much hassle. However the quality of these
>>> packages is not really good in most cases IMO. 
>> The package quality is due to packager to to OBS itsealf, 
>  ^^^
> I guess the words "and not" are missing here, right? It depends on the
> packager, not on OBS. That's exactly what I said: People focus on a
> particular distro and it's impossible to know the guidelines and
> oddities of each and every other Linux.
> 
>> obs just
>> provide a chroot enviroment where build you packages plus some post
>> build, quality checks on the package (spec file for example) and code,
>> like the gcc lint i post or checks on .desktop and init scripts and so on.
> 
> Yes, and these things are also distribution specific. They depend on the
> versions of gcc and desktop-file-utils. What causes an error on SUSE may
> be perfectly fine for Fedora - and contrariwise.
> 
>>> People focus on their favorite distribution, but don't really care about 
>>> others. For example I
>>> focus on rpm and it's been a while since I last build a deb. So I have
>>> no idea if/how Debian's packaging guidelines have changed in the
>>> meantime.
>> You can just write the spec file for your own distribution, following
>> you distro guidelines, (really we can use distro specific obs macros,
>> and create a multidistro spec file, for example:
>>
>> %if 0%{?fedora_version} == 11
>> fedora 11 stuffs here
>> %endif
>>
>> %if 0%{?suse_version} == 1110
>> suse 11.1 stuffs here
>> %endif )
> 
> This still is based on the assumption that a packager knows all the
> different guidelines from all distributions. I doubt that this is
> possible.
> 
>> more infos here:
>>
>> http://en.opensuse.org/Build_Service/cross_distribution_package_how_to
> 
> I know how to use macros, but since I'm not using SUSE I hardly don't
> know anything about the distro itself, so I'm not a good SUSE packager.
> And I have no SUSE here, so I have no idea what these macros resolve to.
> 
> Let me give you some more examples:
>   * package names and naming guidelines
>   * License tag: On SUSE it's ok to use "GPL" for the License tag.
> On Fedora we are much stricter about licenses, because differen
> versions of licenses are not compatible. So we devide into
> GPLv2, GPLv2+, GPLv3 and GPLv3+. 
>   * Tags in genereal, e.g. "Group": Fedora and SUSE use different
> values for them.
>   * Categories for menu entries and and the whole menu structure
>   * Scriptlets: In Fedora we use a lot of scriptlets not used in
> SUSE, for example for desktop-file-install. On SUSE this is not
> needed, because SUSE has %suse_update_desktop_file.
> 
> If you take all these differences into account, you will end up with a
> spec with lots of conditionals, which is way harder to maintain than a
> distribution specific spec/rules. What's the worth of a cross-distro
> spec file if we already have people working on the different
> distributions?
> 
>>> We are in the lucky position to have dedicated package maintainers for
>>> all distributions you mentioned, so packages are available in the
>>> distributions itself and users don't need to add another package
>>> repository of unknown quality.
>> I agree (in part), if lxde is provided into MAIN repos like mandriva,
>> than you can skip it, but if you are any way supposed to add a specific
>> repo, i think instead, that if all packagers works together, they
>> (including me) will have a greate chance to improve packages and use
>> other distro patches (if valid). 
> 
> Then these patches are no longer distro-specific and should be
> upstreamed into LXDE.
> 
>> In other words, The packagers are still
>> the same, then the packages quality is still the same,
> 
> No, because a packager may be an excellent on Debian but lousy on
> Mandriva.
> 
>>  but because all
>> packagers works together all of them can help each others and improve
>> all packages.
> 
> What should this look like? If we had 5 people working on a spec file
> for all rpm-based distributions, these people need to agree on all the
> changes. Changes need to be discussed first, which requires knowledge
> about every single distro and slows down the whole process dramatically.
> Too many cooks spoil the br

[Lxde-list] MKINSTALLDIRS is deprecated?

[Andrew Lee]

Hello Juergen,

I got build failed on SVN head of lxrandr with following message:
Error: you need to run configure with '--enable-man'
   in order to regenerate man pages.

And then I took a look on the SVN log. I found except my changes for fix
the build loop issue, there is only one change that removed
"MKINSTALLDIRS" in autogen.sh for all components.

I did a google search and then I found this:
http://www.gnu.org/software/hello/manual/gettext/mkinstalldirs.html

If the MKINSTALLDIRS does nothing, it won't be hurt that we just keep it
in case someone who use LXDE with earlier version of GNU gettext(eg:
lenny), shall we?

-Andrew

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Re: [Lxde-list] LXPanel 0.4 + menu-cache 0.2.4 are released!

[Andrew Lee]

Hello,

Anthony and I are discussing on this. He would download the tarball from
sourceforge and package libmenu-cache 0.2.4 first for the new lxpanel.

Please wait for a few days.

-Andrew

Mario Behling wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 3:12 AM, Martin Bagge  wrote:
>> On Mon, 20 Apr 2009, Klaus Knopper wrote:
>>
>>> Out of pure interest: What is the procedure of getting Debian packages
>>> from released LXDE components? Is someone from the LXDE team actually a
>>> Debian Package Maintainer, and can trigger the staging process so that
>>> we can expect lxpanel to appear in Debian/experimental or
>>> Debian/unstable in a few days?
>> Andrew Lee is (the?) DD afaik.
> 
> Yes, Andrew is the maintainer.
> 
> We are looking for more people, who are able to make packages. As
> Andrews time is sometimes limited. Andrew Lee can sponsor them to get
> them into Debian.
> 
> I started a page for the LXDE Packaging project in the Wiki some time
> ago here: http://wiki.lxde.org/en/Category:Packaging . It has taken
> off a bit already (slowly but surely :-) and we are getting more
> people involved. Please invite people to join.
> 
> Best regards from Kabul. I am working here with Open Source
> Afghanistan and OLPC. If anyone is interested to make new special LXDE
> Images for OLPC, please let me know. We would be happy to test
> different distros.
> 
> Ciao,
> 
> Mario
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