Re: [Lxde-list] Problems with posting messages to lxde-debian mailing list

2013-10-29 Thread Bob Bib 
Tue, 29 Oct 2013, 10:37 +02:00 from Andrej N. Gritsenko:
> I always receive letters from "Debian FTP Masters" in the lxde-debian@
> mailing list, that part functions well. :)
> 
> >Let's see if it accepts the current message...
> 
> I saw your letter only in lxde-list@, not in lxde-debian@, I'm sorry.

Yep...
By the way, I received your letter via lists.lxde.org:

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So currently it looks like at least forwarding messages to subscribers works :)


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Re: [Lxde-list] Problems with posting messages to lxde-debian mailing list

2013-10-29 Thread Andrej N. Gritsenko 
Hello!

Bob Bib has written on Tuesday, 29 October, at  2:26:
>On 2013-10-28 I've received some messages
>(a copy of "Debian FTP Masters" bounces for the freshly uploaded 
>gpicview/0.2.4-1)
>from . For the first time. It's wonderful.

I always receive letters from "Debian FTP Masters" in the lxde-debian@
mailing list, that part functions well. :)

>Let's see if it accepts the current message...

I saw your letter only in lxde-list@, not in lxde-debian@, I'm sorry.

>
>Best wishes, Bob

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Re: [Lxde-list] Problems with posting messages to lxde-debian mailing list

2013-10-28 Thread Bob Bib 
Hello everybody.

On 2013-10-28 I've received some messages
(a copy of "Debian FTP Masters" bounces for the freshly uploaded 
gpicview/0.2.4-1)
from . For the first time. It's wonderful.

Let's see if it accepts the current message...


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Re: [Lxde-list] Problems with posting messages to lxde-debian mailing list

2013-10-18 Thread Bob Bib 
Thu, 17 Oct 2013, 19:52 +02:00 from Daniel Baumann:
> On 10/17/2013 07:10 PM, Bob Bib wrote:
> ...
> > Usually mailing list software sends a notification
> > about non-subscriber's message held for moderation.
> 
> like i said, i turned that off. when i was moderating the list since
> (for such low traffic lists) i was fast enough in whitelisting people.
> as a user, i prefer that over the annoying 'held for moderation' mails.

Notifications... it's a matter of taste really.

Currently those lists are lacking moderation.
Maybe, we should allow all messages, adding a "Report spam" button?

Fri, 18 Oct 2013, 11:09 +02:00 from Martin Bagge / brother:
> On 2013-10-16 00:50, Andrew Lee wrote:
> > Would you have time to manage the list admin?
> 
> Sure. NP.
> What do I need?

I don't know really, but someone surely
needs to log into lists.lxde.org as administrator
and look what's going there, check the logs etc. :)

Those mailing lists silently devour the non-members' messages
(and sometimes subscribers' messages too)...

We've been already debugging it here theoritically for some time :)


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Re: [Lxde-list] Problems with posting messages to lxde-debian mailing list

2013-10-18 Thread Martin Bagge / brother 
On 2013-10-16 00:50, Andrew Lee wrote:
> Would you have time to manage the list admin?

Sure. NP.
What do I need?

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Re: [Lxde-list] Problems with posting messages to lxde-debian mailing list

2013-10-18 Thread Daniel Baumann 
On 10/17/2013 07:10 PM, Bob Bib wrote:
> Are you sure?

yes.

> Usually mailing list software sends a notification
> about non-subscriber's message held for moderation.

like i said, i turned that off. when i was moderating the list since
(for such low traffic lists) i was fast enough in whitelisting people.
as a user, i prefer that over the annoying 'held for moderation' mails.

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Re: [Lxde-list] Problems with posting messages to lxde-debian mailing list

2013-10-18 Thread Daniel Baumann 
On 10/17/2013 02:45 AM, Andrej N. Gritsenko wrote:
> I'm not sure if that is right that I don't get my mails back.

check if your subscription is set to 'nomail' or 'no-own-mail'.

> And I believe mails from non-members should not be
> silently ignored

they are not ignored, they are moderated.

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Re: [Lxde-list] Problems with posting messages to lxde-debian mailing list

2013-10-17 Thread Bob Bib 
Thu, 17 Oct 2013, 6:23 +02:00 from Daniel Baumann 
:
> On 10/17/2013 02:45 AM, Andrej N. Gritsenko wrote:
> ...
> > And I believe mails from non-members should not be
> > silently ignored
> 
> they are not ignored, they are moderated.

Are you sure?
Usually mailing list software sends a notification
about non-subscriber's message held for moderation.

Anyway, this doesn't explain silent ignoring of messages
of some lists subscribers like me.


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Re: [Lxde-list] Problems with posting messages to lxde-debian mailing list

2013-10-16 Thread Bob Bib 
Wed, 16 Oct 2013, 7:26 +02:00 from Daniel Baumann:
> On 10/16/2013 12:50 AM, Andrew Lee wrote:
> > Would you mind to help us for the spam filter issue on lists.lxde.org
> > ?
> 
> unless someone changed anything from when i did the setup some time ago,
> there's no spam filtering, just silent-members-only which is imho the
> best way for small traffic lists to avoid spam.
> 
> i didn't follow the discussion, what is the actual problem?

The messages I send to  are silently ignored
and don't appear in list archives.
I've even subscribed to that list, but it changes nothing,

And  doesn't look reachable either.


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Re: [Lxde-list] Problems with posting messages to lxde-debian mailing list

2013-10-16 Thread Andrej N. Gritsenko 
Hello!

I have written on Thursday, 17 October, at  3:45:
>  I'm not sure if that is right that I don't get my mails back.

It seems I get them back now! Test message wasn't back but now they are.
But still no mails from Andrew Lee nor from Bob Bib are in archive...

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Re: [Lxde-list] Problems with posting messages to lxde-debian mailing list

2013-10-16 Thread Andrej N. Gritsenko 
Hello!

You have written on Wednesday, 16 October, at  7:26:
>On 10/16/2013 12:50 AM, Andrew Lee wrote:
>> Would you mind to help us for the spam filter issue on lists.lxde.org
>> ?

>unless someone changed anything from when i did the setup some time ago,
>there's no spam filtering, just silent-members-only which is imho the
>best way for small traffic lists to avoid spam.

>i didn't follow the discussion, what is the actual problem?

I'm not sure if that is right that I don't get my mails back. They
are in archive though. And I believe mails from non-members should not be
silently ignored since that address is somewhat official address of the
Debian LXDE Maintainers so users may (and will) write there in regards of
debian packaging issues, and if their mails are ignored, users will think
Debian LXDE maintainers are MIA. Probably something non-silent would be
better.

With best regards.
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Re: [Lxde-list] Problems with posting messages to lxde-debian mailing list

2013-10-16 Thread Daniel Baumann 
On 10/16/2013 12:50 AM, Andrew Lee wrote:
> Would you mind to help us for the spam filter issue on lists.lxde.org
> ?

unless someone changed anything from when i did the setup some time ago,
there's no spam filtering, just silent-members-only which is imho the
best way for small traffic lists to avoid spam.

i didn't follow the discussion, what is the actual problem?

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Re: [Lxde-list] Problems with posting messages to lxde-debian mailing list

2013-10-15 Thread Andrew Lee 
Hi Bob,

Sorry for the long long wait. I have been very busy and don't really know
the spam filter setup on lists.lxde.org.

@Daniel,
Would you mind to help us for the spam filter issue on lists.lxde.org?

And @Martin,
Would you have time to manage the list admin?

Best regards,

-Andrew



2013/10/15 Andrej N. Gritsenko 

> Hello!
>
> Bob Bib has written on Monday, 14 October, at  5:56:
> >I don't notice any progress there...
>
> >Does anyone know
> >who is the person behind ,
> >and can report the super-anti-spam problems at the mailing lists there? :)
>
> I believe Andrew Lee  is the person. Let wait him. :)
>
> With best wishes.
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Re: [Lxde-list] Problems with posting messages to lxde-debian mailing list

2013-10-14 Thread Bob Bib 
Hello!

Tue, 15 Oct 2013, 1:14 +03:00 from Andrej N. Gritsenko:
> Bob Bib has written on Monday, 14 October, at  5:56:
> >Does anyone know
> >who is the person behind ,
> >and can report the super-anti-spam problems at the mailing lists there? :)
> 
> I believe Andrew Lee  is the person. Let wait him. :)

OK, thanks :)


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Re: [Lxde-list] Problems with posting messages to lxde-debian mailing list

2013-10-14 Thread Andrej N. Gritsenko 
Hello!

Bob Bib has written on Monday, 14 October, at  5:56:
>I don't notice any progress there...

>Does anyone know
>who is the person behind ,
>and can report the super-anti-spam problems at the mailing lists there? :)

I believe Andrew Lee  is the person. Let wait him. :)

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Re: [Lxde-list] Problems with posting messages to lxde-debian mailing list

2013-10-13 Thread Bob Bib 
I don't notice any progress there...

Does anyone know
who is the person behind ,
and can report the super-anti-spam problems at the mailing lists there? :)


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Re: [Lxde-list] Problems with posting messages to lxde-debian mailing list

2013-10-08 Thread Bob Bib 
Tue, 8 Oct 2013, 13:21 +02:00 from Martin Bagge / brother:
> On 2013-10-04 18:56, Bob Bib wrote:
> > I'm trying to sent messages to , but
> > they don't appear in the list archives. Also, I don't receive any
> > automatic replies / "bounces" etc.
> 
> You can send it to the lxde-list instead if you want to. Not sure
> what's up with the other list. It did work not long ago at least.

Well, it looks like lists.lxde.org server is working,
but has an "overconfigured" spam filter,
routing all mail from some domains (e. g., mail.ru, mail.ua) to /dev/null :)

sysadmin at lists.lxde.org is not reachable either...


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[Lxde-list] Problems with posting messages to lxde-debian mailing list

2013-10-08 Thread Bob Bib 
Hello LXDE people!

I'm trying to sent messages to , but they don't 
appear in the list archives.
Also, I don't receive any automatic replies / "bounces" etc.
And yes, I'm subscribed to that LXDE / Debian list.

I suspect my messages get wrongly filtered as spam or something...
What should I try to do to fix this?


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[Lxde-list] Problems with posting messages to lxde-debian mailing list

2013-10-07 Thread Bob Bib 
Hello LXDE people!

I'm trying to sent messages to , but they don't 
appear in the list archives.
Also, I don't receive any automatic replies / "bounces" etc.
And yes, I'm subscribed to that LXDE / Debian list.

I suspect my messages get wrongly filtered as spam or something...
What should I try to do to fix this?

P. S. It's quite late now... Please excuse me for messing the mailing list(s) 
up with my dull duplicated messages :)


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