Re: [LyX/master] Draw top/bottom rules heavier for booktab

2018-09-09 Thread Richard Kimberly Heck
On 09/09/2018 02:15 PM, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> Le 20/07/2018 à 00:30, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes a écrit :
>> commit 8651cd89f6cc16c4e17f197fbbcfe979d09f01c9
>> Author: Jean-Marc Lasgouttes 
>> Date:   Fri Jul 20 00:26:41 2018 +0200
>>
>>  Draw top/bottom rules heavier for booktab
>>   This gives a better idea of the TeX output, even though the
>> width are
>>  not correct.
>
> Riki,
>
> Can I backport to 2.3.2 (along with fixup 84328c85388cc)?

OK.

Riki



Re: [LyX/master] Fix disappearing blue language underline.

2018-09-09 Thread Richard Kimberly Heck
On 09/09/2018 02:12 PM, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> Le 20/07/2018 à 15:28, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes a écrit :
>> commit 8e9e05067014a7c5fad501a0f4e8ffbb56eed165
>> Author: Jean-Marc Lasgouttes 
>> Date:   Fri Jul 20 15:23:55 2018 +0200
>>
>>  Fix disappearing blue language underline.
>>   Make sure that the blue language underline is not below the
>> bottom of
>>  the row. Otherwise, it can disappear when the next row is painted.
>
> Riki, can this be backported to 2.3.2?

Sure.

Riki



Re: LyX on Windows: New Wiki Pages

2018-09-09 Thread Pavel Sanda
Richard Kimberly Heck wrote:
> What a great idea! The file
>     development/Win32/packaging/installer/Packages.txt
> is what Uwe used to tell MiKTeX what to install (and which I'll use to
> build the batch files). I believe it is meant to include everything that
> LyX could ever possibly want. That would do, I suppose. It's 319
> packages, or so says 'wc -l', but it probably doesn't end up being a
> whole ton of space, and some of them may already be installed.
> Alternatively, we could try to pare the list down a bit to packages
> people are more likely to need.

If we wanted to spare some download time/install time the best place
would be to strip the docs. I measured it some time ago - the basic
TL packages nedeed were ~300 mb and their documentation 1.5 GB...
I'm pretty sure instaler could be instructed not to use the docs.

Pavel


Re: LyX on Windows: New Wiki Pages

2018-09-09 Thread Daniel

On 09/09/2018 18:38, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote:

On 09/09/2018 12:23 PM, Daniel wrote:

On 09/09/2018 18:12, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote:

On 09/09/2018 07:32 AM, Daniel wrote:

On 09/09/2018 01:35, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote:

As mentioned previously, I am not going to build a "bundled" installer
for 2.3.1. Indeed, I have removed the 'bundle' code from the installer
at 8c32a1a7 and removed the bundled installer for 2.3.0 from the
downloads page. I've added language instructing people to install a
TeX
distribution before installing LyX (as we do for OSX).

I have also written this wiki page

   https://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/TeXLive

to help people install TeXLive and this page

   https://wiki.lyx.org/LaTeX/TeXLivePackages

to help people learn how to install packages. I'd appreciate it if
people could have a look and make whatever changes or additions seem
worth making. We could probably use, on one of those two pages, a
quick
guide to updating the TeXLive packages using the GUI.

Soon, I am going to write small batch file that people can use to
install various packages that LyX might want. I'll link that off the
wiki, and probably include it in the Windows installer. I mean just
the
file itself. Not running it as part of the installer.

Riki


Thanks. That will hopefully help many users. But maybe there is still
a problem for non-English speakers?


We could work to get this translated, but I'm not sure how.

Riki




I am not sure either. Unfortunately, there are no translated
instructions on the MiKTeX and TeX Live websites either, as far as I
could see. But their installers might be or they are at least pretty
much straight forward. Maybe there could be a link in the LyX
installer that opens the download website (if they are stable)? That
might help some people to quickly get going.


It's really preferable that TeX be set up before the LyX installation. I
mean, we could create two new 'bundled' installers that did nothing but
launch the TeX install for people, but I'm not sure I see the point of that.

I think we should really re-think 'bundling' ImageMagick, etc, in the
way we do, as well. Presently, it's not at all obvious how a user could
update ImageMagick itself in the wake of the kinds of security issues
we've just seen. You'd have to re-install LyX, really...and wait for us
to release an updated installer. I guess I really need to update the
included ImageMagick, but I'm not totally sure how to do that yet.


I wasn't suggesting to install TeX after the installation. Rather, when 
LyX is searching for TeX but doesn't find any, it offers links to a TeX 
installer website and tells them to install it before proceeding with 
the LyX install. Since there is no automatic dependency installation, it 
could at least make it easier to take this hurdle in order to install LyX.


Daniel



Re: LyX on Windows: New Wiki Pages

2018-09-09 Thread Richard Kimberly Heck
On 09/09/2018 12:23 PM, Daniel wrote:
> On 09/09/2018 18:12, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote:
>> On 09/09/2018 07:32 AM, Daniel wrote:
>>> On 09/09/2018 01:35, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote:
 As mentioned previously, I am not going to build a "bundled" installer
 for 2.3.1. Indeed, I have removed the 'bundle' code from the installer
 at 8c32a1a7 and removed the bundled installer for 2.3.0 from the
 downloads page. I've added language instructing people to install a
 TeX
 distribution before installing LyX (as we do for OSX).

 I have also written this wiki page

   https://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/TeXLive

 to help people install TeXLive and this page

   https://wiki.lyx.org/LaTeX/TeXLivePackages

 to help people learn how to install packages. I'd appreciate it if
 people could have a look and make whatever changes or additions seem
 worth making. We could probably use, on one of those two pages, a
 quick
 guide to updating the TeXLive packages using the GUI.

 Soon, I am going to write small batch file that people can use to
 install various packages that LyX might want. I'll link that off the
 wiki, and probably include it in the Windows installer. I mean just
 the
 file itself. Not running it as part of the installer.

 Riki
>>>
>>> Thanks. That will hopefully help many users. But maybe there is still
>>> a problem for non-English speakers?
>>
>> We could work to get this translated, but I'm not sure how.
>>
>> Riki
>>
>>
>
> I am not sure either. Unfortunately, there are no translated
> instructions on the MiKTeX and TeX Live websites either, as far as I
> could see. But their installers might be or they are at least pretty
> much straight forward. Maybe there could be a link in the LyX
> installer that opens the download website (if they are stable)? That
> might help some people to quickly get going.

It's really preferable that TeX be set up before the LyX installation. I
mean, we could create two new 'bundled' installers that did nothing but
launch the TeX install for people, but I'm not sure I see the point of that.

I think we should really re-think 'bundling' ImageMagick, etc, in the
way we do, as well. Presently, it's not at all obvious how a user could
update ImageMagick itself in the wake of the kinds of security issues
we've just seen. You'd have to re-install LyX, really...and wait for us
to release an updated installer. I guess I really need to update the
included ImageMagick, but I'm not totally sure how to do that yet.

Riki



Re: LyX on Windows: New Wiki Pages

2018-09-09 Thread Daniel

On 09/09/2018 18:12, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote:

On 09/09/2018 07:32 AM, Daniel wrote:

On 09/09/2018 01:35, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote:

As mentioned previously, I am not going to build a "bundled" installer
for 2.3.1. Indeed, I have removed the 'bundle' code from the installer
at 8c32a1a7 and removed the bundled installer for 2.3.0 from the
downloads page. I've added language instructing people to install a TeX
distribution before installing LyX (as we do for OSX).

I have also written this wiki page

  https://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/TeXLive

to help people install TeXLive and this page

  https://wiki.lyx.org/LaTeX/TeXLivePackages

to help people learn how to install packages. I'd appreciate it if
people could have a look and make whatever changes or additions seem
worth making. We could probably use, on one of those two pages, a quick
guide to updating the TeXLive packages using the GUI.

Soon, I am going to write small batch file that people can use to
install various packages that LyX might want. I'll link that off the
wiki, and probably include it in the Windows installer. I mean just the
file itself. Not running it as part of the installer.

Riki


Thanks. That will hopefully help many users. But maybe there is still
a problem for non-English speakers?


We could work to get this translated, but I'm not sure how.

Riki




I am not sure either. Unfortunately, there are no translated 
instructions on the MiKTeX and TeX Live websites either, as far as I 
could see. But their installers might be or they are at least pretty 
much straight forward. Maybe there could be a link in the LyX installer 
that opens the download website (if they are stable)? That might help 
some people to quickly get going.


Daniel



Re: LyX on Windows: New Wiki Pages

2018-09-09 Thread Richard Kimberly Heck
On 09/09/2018 04:20 AM, Pavel Sanda wrote:
> Richard Kimberly Heck wrote:
>> Soon, I am going to write small batch file that people can use to
>> install various packages that LyX might want. I'll link that off the
>> wiki, and probably include it in the Windows installer. I mean just the
>> file itself. Not running it as part of the installer.
> Once we collect set of packages/binaries we want by default from texlive
> we could write to texlive mailling list and ask them if they would
> be willing to create lyx-scheme for us directly in the installer...

What a great idea! The file
    development/Win32/packaging/installer/Packages.txt
is what Uwe used to tell MiKTeX what to install (and which I'll use to
build the batch files). I believe it is meant to include everything that
LyX could ever possibly want. That would do, I suppose. It's 319
packages, or so says 'wc -l', but it probably doesn't end up being a
whole ton of space, and some of them may already be installed.
Alternatively, we could try to pare the list down a bit to packages
people are more likely to need.

Riki



Re: LyX on Windows: New Wiki Pages

2018-09-09 Thread Richard Kimberly Heck
On 09/09/2018 07:32 AM, Daniel wrote:
> On 09/09/2018 01:35, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote:
>> As mentioned previously, I am not going to build a "bundled" installer
>> for 2.3.1. Indeed, I have removed the 'bundle' code from the installer
>> at 8c32a1a7 and removed the bundled installer for 2.3.0 from the
>> downloads page. I've added language instructing people to install a TeX
>> distribution before installing LyX (as we do for OSX).
>>
>> I have also written this wiki page
>>
>>  https://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/TeXLive
>>
>> to help people install TeXLive and this page
>>
>>  https://wiki.lyx.org/LaTeX/TeXLivePackages
>>
>> to help people learn how to install packages. I'd appreciate it if
>> people could have a look and make whatever changes or additions seem
>> worth making. We could probably use, on one of those two pages, a quick
>> guide to updating the TeXLive packages using the GUI.
>>
>> Soon, I am going to write small batch file that people can use to
>> install various packages that LyX might want. I'll link that off the
>> wiki, and probably include it in the Windows installer. I mean just the
>> file itself. Not running it as part of the installer.
>>
>> Riki
>
> Thanks. That will hopefully help many users. But maybe there is still
> a problem for non-English speakers?

We could work to get this translated, but I'm not sure how.

Riki



Re: New 2.3.1 Windows Installer for Testing

2018-09-09 Thread Daniel

On 08/09/2018 21:44, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote:

On 09/08/2018 02:29 PM, Daniel wrote:

On 08/09/2018 20:13, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote:

On 09/08/2018 03:20 AM, Daniel wrote:

On 06/09/2018 19:37, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote:

Here:

   http://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/devel/lyx-2.3/

Please let us know if this fixes the slowness bug from before. If so,
we'll proceed to release.

Riki


I didn't notice any slowness as compared to 2.3.0.


On 09/06/2018 05:58 PM, Andrew Parsloe wrote:

I've installed this version and it solves the slowness problem with my
test document. The kpsewhich.log is not being added to with operations
(new paragraphs, selection + deletion, etc.) that were generating
entries  with the first installer.


Great, we'll proceed to release.

Riki


Maybe it is a good idea to wait a bit with the Windows binary because
MiKTeX is down which could lead to problems for people trying the
update recommendation on the website:

https://miktex.org/alert/update-problem-6824


I'll put some kind of warning on the download page. And we won't be
releasing a "bundled" installer. I'm working right now on some
instructions for how to install TeXLive for use with LyX.

Frankly, I'd encourage everyone to switch to TeXLive. It seems that
MiKTeX gets less stable every month.

Riki


MiKTeX is up and running again.

Thanks for the advice but I'll stick to MiKTeX. Except for a couple of 
recent problems, it served me well enough so far.


Daniel




Re: LyX on Windows: New Wiki Pages

2018-09-09 Thread Daniel

On 09/09/2018 01:35, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote:

As mentioned previously, I am not going to build a "bundled" installer
for 2.3.1. Indeed, I have removed the 'bundle' code from the installer
at 8c32a1a7 and removed the bundled installer for 2.3.0 from the
downloads page. I've added language instructing people to install a TeX
distribution before installing LyX (as we do for OSX).

I have also written this wiki page

     https://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/TeXLive

to help people install TeXLive and this page

     https://wiki.lyx.org/LaTeX/TeXLivePackages

to help people learn how to install packages. I'd appreciate it if
people could have a look and make whatever changes or additions seem
worth making. We could probably use, on one of those two pages, a quick
guide to updating the TeXLive packages using the GUI.

Soon, I am going to write small batch file that people can use to
install various packages that LyX might want. I'll link that off the
wiki, and probably include it in the Windows installer. I mean just the
file itself. Not running it as part of the installer.

Riki


Thanks. That will hopefully help many users. But maybe there is still a 
problem for non-English speakers?


Daniel



Re: doc/ar/Shortcuts.lyx uncompilable

2018-09-09 Thread Kornel Benko
Am Samstag, 8. September 2018 20:04:53 CEST schrieb Scott Kostyshak 
:
> On Sat, Sep 08, 2018 at 06:51:09PM -0400, Scott Kostyshak wrote:
> > On Sat, Sep 08, 2018 at 04:29:38PM +0200, Kornel Benko wrote:
> > > I was unable to find the reason.
> > 
> > I can reproduce. I can do a bisect if it would help.
> 
> Bisect leads to 2d4ac90f.
> 
> Scott
> 

I got something different:
652ca5f578c1b4854a12833da50ea31e37ac552e is the first bad commit
Nonetheless, attached a minimal example (from Shortcuts.lyx) behaving wrong.

Removing the listings part it compiles.

Kornel


ar_listings_error.lyx
Description: application/lyx


signature.asc
Description: This is a digitally signed message part.


[honzahla...@gmail.com: Re: #11281: Displaying maths does not work in 2.3.0, Linux Mint Cinnemon]

2018-09-09 Thread Pavel Sanda
I forgot to CC devel list, anyway for the bug to appear one might need to
use ppa:lyx-devel/release instead of standard repo in ubuntu. p


- Forwarded message from Jan Hladky  -

From: Jan Hladky 
To: sa...@lyx.org
Subject: Re: #11281: Displaying maths does not work in 2.3.0, Linux Mint 
Cinnemon

I am almost sure that I did it either the standard way (and then updated
after the lyx-devel ppa was added) or prior to installing it (from the
standard ubuntu repository), I added
sudo add-apt-repository ppa:lyx-devel/release (since only that way I get
the newest version of lyx).

Thanks for all your work and best regards,
Honza

On Sat, Sep 8, 2018 at 5:21 PM Pavel Sanda  wrote:

> Jan Hladky wrote:
> > Thank you very much, that worked.
>
> But it should work automatically on ubuntu based distributions (i.e. Mint).
> How did you install lyx?
>
> Pavel
>

- End forwarded message -


Re: LyX on Windows: New Wiki Pages

2018-09-09 Thread Pavel Sanda
Richard Kimberly Heck wrote:
> Soon, I am going to write small batch file that people can use to
> install various packages that LyX might want. I'll link that off the
> wiki, and probably include it in the Windows installer. I mean just the
> file itself. Not running it as part of the installer.

Once we collect set of packages/binaries we want by default from texlive
we could write to texlive mailling list and ask them if they would
be willing to create lyx-scheme for us directly in the installer...

Pavel