Re: (general doc issue) [and now a plea for sloppypar]
On Mon, 11 Jan 1999, Amir Karger wrote: > I certainly don't want to suggest that you were wasting your time when you did > this, but I feel it's not worth optimizing for printing for several > reasons. Okay - if no one else objects, I'm going to nuke all the ERT I put in. This goes with my gut feeling anyway, so I'll just do it when I've got a few spare minutes. > ... who install LyX for their groups do print out the manuals; maybe > individual LyXers have found it useful to have a printed copy, but I think the > greatest benefit for the greatest number lies in reducing ERT (via the > Editors' Revolt to Trim ERT) and optimizing for LyX. Is this ERTERT? :-) > As a separate issue, is there a way to get LyX to linebreak intelligently in > such cases? But doesn't url.sty make url's break cleanly? I just looked at the > docs for it, and it sort of looks like we ought to be using it for any url's > or email addresses in the docs... url.sty is certainly one option, at least for the URLs. Is it included in teTeX-0.4? I personally use the teTeX-0.9 pretest versions, but I don't want to lose compatibility with 0.4 since most people will have that. Beyond that, the best solution for the things I noticed would be to add a paragraph style option for "sloppypar". This is a standard LaTeX environment which relaxes the spacing penalties. Please, oh mighty and wise developers, add this one soon! It would be useful for all sorts of things, but especially the docs. Another thing I would like is a real line break in the LaTeX sense: one that fully justifies the line, then returns, unlike (or in addition to) the current variation which stops in the middle of the line (i.e. left justifies) and breaks. But I can wait longer for this one. Okay, enough hot air. Back to using LyX to write a proposal which has Boeing (yes, the big aerospace company) as a contractor to little, ol' me. Ain't astronomy great? :-)
Re: (general doc issue) [and now a plea for sloppypar]
On Mon, Jan 11, 1999 at 10:18:00AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Editors' Revolt to Trim ERT) and optimizing for LyX. > > Is this ERTERT? :-) Sure. Remember that I"m also a member of the Redundant Redundancy Reduction Committee. > url.sty is certainly one option, at least for the URLs. Is it included in > teTeX-0.4? I personally use the teTeX-0.9 pretest versions, but I don't > want to lose compatibility with 0.4 since most people will have that. 0.4 (at least with update 008) has url.sty. > Beyond that, the best solution for the things I noticed would be to add a > paragraph style option for "sloppypar". This is a standard LaTeX > environment which relaxes the spacing penalties. > > Please, oh mighty and wise developers, add this one soon! I think this one's on the todo list. > It would be useful for all sorts of things, but especially the docs. > Another thing I would like is a real line break in the LaTeX sense: one > that fully justifies the line, then returns, unlike (or in addition to) > the current variation which stops in the middle of the line (i.e. left > justifies) and breaks. But I can wait longer for this one. I think this one might have to be a "special character". There's only so many "Returns" you can have. C-Return, M-Return. It would get too confusing otherwise. I think there's probably a bunch of latex "minicommands" that would do well as Special_Chars. No, I can't think of any others right now... > Okay, enough hot air. Back to using LyX to write a proposal which has > Boeing (yes, the big aerospace company) as a contractor to little, ol' me. > Ain't astronomy great? :-) Yup. Can I have a job? -Ak
Re: (general doc issue) [and now a plea for sloppypar]
On Mon, Jan 11, 1999 at 10:18:00AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > As a separate issue, is there a way to get LyX to linebreak intelligently in > > such cases? But doesn't url.sty make url's break cleanly? I just looked at the > > docs for it, and it sort of looks like we ought to be using it for any url's > > or email addresses in the docs... > > url.sty is certainly one option, at least for the URLs. Is it included in > teTeX-0.4? I personally use the teTeX-0.9 pretest versions, but I don't > want to lose compatibility with 0.4 since most people will have that. > Beyond that, the best solution for the things I noticed would be to add a > paragraph style option for "sloppypar". This is a standard LaTeX > environment which relaxes the spacing penalties. > > Please, oh mighty and wise developers, add this one soon! I like to hear that part ;-) Actually as soon as the next pre-version all the documents will have access to the url inset. The url inset, originally only existing in linuxdoc, is transleted in latex as \url... So your pray was listen... ;-) > It would be useful for all sorts of things, but especially the docs. > Another thing I would like is a real line break in the LaTeX sense: one > that fully justifies the line, then returns, unlike (or in addition to) > the current variation which stops in the middle of the line (i.e. left > justifies) and breaks. But I can wait longer for this one. > > Okay, enough hot air. Back to using LyX to write a proposal which has > Boeing (yes, the big aerospace company) as a contractor to little, ol' me. > Ain't astronomy great? :-) > Jose' who has a degree in Astronomy but now is playing with math, physics and economy... As you say it is a big universe -- José Abílio de Oliveira Matos ~ Carmel, New York, has an ordinance forbidding men to wear coats and trousers that don't match.
Re: (general doc issue) [and now a plea for sloppypar]
> On Mon, Jan 11, 1999 at 10:18:00AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > I personally use the teTeX-0.9 pretest versions Is there someone out there using teTeX-0.9 who wouldn't mind jotting down a few observations about additional capabilities it offers LyX users? Best regards -- Larry S. Marso [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (general doc issue) [and now a plea for sloppypar]
On Mon, 11 Jan 1999, Larry S. Marso wrote: > Is there someone out there using teTeX-0.9 who wouldn't mind jotting > down a few observations about additional capabilities it offers LyX > users? The primary reason I use it is rather stupid - the version of xdvi included with it doesn't complain about 24-bit color displays (this is rather important to me, as dumb as it sounds). Othereise 0.9 has all the latest LaTeX updates, nifty packages, fonts, etc. I think it allows dynamic setting of memory space and a few other things newbies often complain about (Q: "How do I increase the pool size?" A: "Write better documents." alternative A: "Use a bigger backhoe.") Most users won't see much difference, so I can't say that you should run out just yet and grab it, but it is very stable, even though it is called "pretest", so it can't hurt if you think you need to upgrade. Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (general doc issue) [and now a plea for sloppypar]
Larry S. Marso wrote: > > > On Mon, Jan 11, 1999 at 10:18:00AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > I personally use the teTeX-0.9 pretest versions > > Is there someone out there using teTeX-0.9 who wouldn't mind jotting > down a few observations about additional capabilities it offers LyX > users? > > Best regards > -- > Larry S. Marso > [EMAIL PROTECTED] texmf.cnf allows you to set local and home tex locations and does the ls-R on them. But beware, it is twice as large as -0.4 I also noticed a LaTeX Newsletter .cls which may be adaptable to other newsletters. I have not had time to investigate much further yet. The big issue from me was that switching to glibc and other updates too numerous to list, I managed to break -0.4 to the point that texconfig would no longer work. -0.9 cured that problem. -- Garst
