Re: Appendix (was: Doc updates)

1999-01-31 Thread John Weiss

On Fri, Jan 29, 1999 at 06:19:19PM +0100, Fred Hucht wrote:
> As LaTeX2e also supports \{front|main|back}matter, which are switching
> command similar to \appendix, my (second) proposal would be to add the
> menu
> 
> Layout->Character...
> Paragraph...
> Sectioning (or so)
> Document...

I like this.  It needs a different name --- "Sectioning" may be
confoozling --- but it's a good idea.

How about "Segments"?

> 
> Sectioning could either be a submenu containing
> ->Start of Appendix
>   Start of Frontmatter
>   Start of Mainmatter
>   Start of Backmatter
> 
> or, even better, a dialog box, where one also could do things like 
> change the header/footer with markboth{}, reset the page counter, and
> so on, i.e. all things that are between the paragraph and document
> level. 

I like this idea, too.  All of these could drop in a magenta line with
a little grey box containing a short description: "Start of Appendix",
"Page Number Changed to 34" and so on.  These magenta lines could be
"character-like," however, in that one can delete them without
resorting to the dialog box again.

If we add such things as this and use a dialog box, we'll need a
completely different name.  "Sectioning" just won't work.  My
preference would be "MDLC" for the menu entry and "Mid-Document Layout
Changes Popup" for the dialog.  That's probably too cryptic, however,
so how about "Intermediate" or "Fine-Tuning"?

-- 
John Weiss



Re: Appendix (was: Doc updates)

1999-01-29 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes

> "Fred" == Fred Hucht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Fred> As LaTeX2e also supports \{front|main|back}matter, which are
Fred> switching command similar to \appendix, my (second) proposal
Fred> would be to add the menu

Layout-> Character...
Fred> Paragraph...  Sectioning (or so) Document...

Fred> Sectioning could either be a submenu containing
-> Start of Appendix
Fred>   Start of Frontmatter Start of Mainmatter Start of Backmatter

We could indeed have something like word's section break with a dotted
line all the way of the window, like

..[Page break]..

..[Start main matter]...

or whatever.

Fred> or, even better, a dialog box, where one also could do things
Fred> like change the header/footer with markboth{}, reset the page
Fred> counter, and so on, i.e. all things that are between the
Fred> paragraph and document level.

Header/footers should be in insets. There is no real need to use a
section break to implement that, IMO. Just place the header/footer at
some place in the text.

JMarc



Re: Appendix (was: Doc updates)

1999-01-29 Thread Amir Karger

On Fri, Jan 29, 1999 at 06:19:19PM +0100, Fred Hucht wrote:
> 
> As LaTeX2e also supports \{front|main|back}matter, which are switching
> command similar to \appendix, my (second) proposal would be to add the
> menu
> 
> Layout->Character...
> Paragraph...
> Sectioning (or so)
> Document...
> 
> Sectioning could either be a submenu containing
> ->Start of Appendix
>   Start of Frontmatter
>   Start of Mainmatter
>   Start of Backmatter
> 
> or, even better, a dialog box, where one also could do things like 
> change the header/footer with markboth{}, reset the page counter, and
> so on, i.e. all things that are between the paragraph and document
> level. 
> 

After all, Word's got it. Word may be icky, but in this case, that might be
a logical idea. We'd just have to be careful to keep all of the section
changes WYSIWYM, not WYSIWYG.

-Ak



Re: Appendix (was: Doc updates)

1999-01-29 Thread Fred Hucht

On Fri, 29 Jan 1999, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:

JML> An appendix could also be seen as a box (inset, float, whatever) in
JML> which sections change meaning.
JML> 
JML> In fact, we have to support importing LaTeX documents with
JML> appendices. This means some kind of support for \appendix.

As LaTeX2e also supports \{front|main|back}matter, which are switching
command similar to \appendix, my (second) proposal would be to add the
menu

Layout->Character...
Paragraph...
Sectioning (or so)
Document...

Sectioning could either be a submenu containing
->Start of Appendix
  Start of Frontmatter
  Start of Mainmatter
  Start of Backmatter

or, even better, a dialog box, where one also could do things like 
change the header/footer with markboth{}, reset the page counter, and
so on, i.e. all things that are between the paragraph and document
level. 

Have fun,

Fred

Fred Hucht, Institute of Theoretical Physics, University of Duisburg, Germany
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://www.thp.Uni-Duisburg.DE/
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(E. Landau, Zahlentheorie (1927), Satz 718)