Mildly interesting...

2007-02-02 Thread John Levon

http://www.ohloh.net/projects/3881

john


Re: Mildly interesting...

2007-02-02 Thread Bo Peng

On 2/3/07, John Levon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


http://www.ohloh.net/projects/3881


Interesting. Do they svn blame every lyx file to calculte comment
ratio and main language?

I hope that I can collect my $55000x0.9 in some way. :-)

Bo


Re: Mildly interesting...

2007-02-03 Thread John Levon
On Sat, Feb 03, 2007 at 04:35:03PM +1800, Bo Peng wrote:

> >http://www.ohloh.net/projects/3881
> 
> Interesting. Do they svn blame every lyx file to calculte comment
> ratio and main language?

I believe so.

> I hope that I can collect my $55000x0.9 in some way. :-)

Me too! I'm a bit surprised I'm still on the list given how long it's
been since I did anything useful on LyX. I suppose I must have made a
lot of small irrelevant changes :)

john


Re: Mildly interesting...

2007-02-03 Thread Abdelrazak Younes

Bo Peng wrote:
On 2/3/07, John Levon 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


http://www.ohloh.net/projects/3881


Interesting. Do they svn blame every lyx file to calculte comment
ratio and main language?

I hope that I can collect my $55000x0.9 in some way. :-)


Personally I would be interested to do some paid work for LyX. I am 
running out of contract in 6 month... maybe I'll do a reconversion in 
the software engineering :-). But something disturbs me a bit... is 
$55000 a correct year salary in the states?


Abdel.



Re: Mildly interesting...

2007-02-03 Thread John Levon
On Sat, Feb 03, 2007 at 11:26:56PM +0100, Abdelrazak Younes wrote:

> Personally I would be interested to do some paid work for LyX. I am 
> running out of contract in 6 month... maybe I'll do a reconversion in 
> the software engineering :-). But something disturbs me a bit... is 
> $55000 a correct year salary in the states?

It sounds very low to me.

I'd love for somebody to get paid for LyX work. AFAIK I'm the only
person to have ever been paid for that. Maybe we should be apply for
more grants, I believe there are several available these days up for the
taking...

regards
john


Re: Mildly interesting...

2007-02-04 Thread Martin Vermeer
On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 12:49:43AM +, John Levon wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 03, 2007 at 11:26:56PM +0100, Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
> 
> > Personally I would be interested to do some paid work for LyX. I am 
> > running out of contract in 6 month... maybe I'll do a reconversion in 
> > the software engineering :-). But something disturbs me a bit... is 
> > $55000 a correct year salary in the states?
> 
> It sounds very low to me.

Depends on gross or net. I would switch if somebody offered me that net.
With gross, I would sleep on it...
 
> I'd love for somebody to get paid for LyX work. AFAIK I'm the only
> person to have ever been paid for that. Maybe we should be apply for
> more grants, I believe there are several available these days up for the
> taking...

Like where? I would be interested. If I would be successful in
attracting the next LyX meeting (summer 2007?) to Finland, I intend to
apply locally for some support. There are literally hundreds of funds in
Finland, but most of them are very small or are unsuitable for us.


BTW under "Mature, well-established codebase":

"The first lines of source code were added to LyX in 1999" 

Huh. I started using 0.7.10 for production work in 1997. Trust me ;-)

http://linuxgazette.net/issue20/lyx.html

- Martin



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Re: Mildly interesting...

2007-02-04 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Martin" == Martin Vermeer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Martin> BTW under "Mature, well-established codebase":

Martin> "The first lines of source code were added to LyX in 1999"

Martin> Huh. I started using 0.7.10 for production work in 1997. Trust
Martin> me ;-)

This is when we began to use cvs, actually.

JMarc


Re: Mildly interesting...

2007-02-04 Thread John Levon
On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 07:36:11PM +0200, Martin Vermeer wrote:

> Like where? I would be interested. If I would be successful in
> attracting the next LyX meeting (summer 2007?) to Finland, I intend to
> apply locally for some support. There are literally hundreds of funds in
> Finland, but most of them are very small or are unsuitable for us.

e.g. http://www.spi-inc.org/

I don't know whether any of them would be suitable, but then, I/we
haven't tried :)

regards
john


Re: Mildly interesting...

2007-02-05 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "John" == John Levon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

John> On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 07:36:11PM +0200, Martin Vermeer wrote:
>> Like where? I would be interested. If I would be successful in
>> attracting the next LyX meeting (summer 2007?) to Finland, I intend
>> to apply locally for some support. There are literally hundreds of
>> funds in Finland, but most of them are very small or are unsuitable
>> for us.

John> e.g. http://www.spi-inc.org/

John> I don't know whether any of them would be suitable, but then,
John> I/we haven't tried :)

I do not think they distribute money. They allow for a mechanism for
normal people to make donations to projects with a favorable fiscal
system.

JMarc


Re: Mildly interesting...

2007-02-06 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 12:49:43AM +, John Levon wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 03, 2007 at 11:26:56PM +0100, Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
> 
> > Personally I would be interested to do some paid work for LyX. I am 
> > running out of contract in 6 month... maybe I'll do a reconversion in 
> > the software engineering :-). But something disturbs me a bit... is 
> > $55000 a correct year salary in the states?
> 
> It sounds very low to me.

Since we are at it: What would be 'average'?

Andre'


Re: Mildly interesting...

2007-02-06 Thread Bo Peng

> It sounds very low to me.

Since we are at it: What would be 'average'?


I think I am 'above average'. :-)

Bo


Re: Mildly interesting...

2007-02-06 Thread Angus Leeming
Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Since we are at it: What would be 'average'?

The 66th percentile for a "competent" new hire (meaning a certain company pays 
a base salary that matches or exceeds 66% of other US companies for the same 
kind of work) is about one and a half times that. Many of these companies will 
also pay employees with some kind of stock award/option.

US tax comes in at about 20% of total salary.

The likely downside if you're coming from abroad is that you'll go from being 
a two income household to a one income household. Of course, if your better 
half can also organize a company to sponsor them through the visa process, 
you're laughing...

Anybody interested still? I can put names forward...

Angus



Re: Mildly interesting...

2007-02-07 Thread christian . ridderstrom

On Tue, 6 Feb 2007, Angus Leeming wrote:


Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Since we are at it: What would be 'average'?


The 66th percentile for a "competent" new hire (meaning a certain 
company pays a base salary that matches or exceeds 66% of other US 
companies for the same kind of work) is about one and a half times that. 
Many of these companies will also pay employees with some kind of stock 
award/option.


US tax comes in at about 20% of total salary.


Sweden is a country with high taxes, but are the tax rates really directly 
comparable? I guess health insurance is one issue? (Or maybe the company 
usually pays for a health plan, as well as a pension plan?)


The likely downside if you're coming from abroad is that you'll go from 
being a two income household to a one income household. Of course, if 
your better half can also organize a company to sponsor them through the 
visa process, you're laughing...


Anybody interested still? I can put names forward...


I have alarm bells ringing in my head... where did you say you work? ;-)

cheers
/Christian

--
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr

Re: Mildly interesting...

2007-02-07 Thread Edwin Leuven

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Anybody interested still? I can put names forward...


I have alarm bells ringing in my head... where did you say you work? ;-)


the dark side...


Re: Mildly interesting...

2007-02-07 Thread Abdelrazak Younes

Andre Poenitz wrote:

On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 12:49:43AM +, John Levon wrote:

On Sat, Feb 03, 2007 at 11:26:56PM +0100, Abdelrazak Younes wrote:

Personally I would be interested to do some paid work for LyX. I am 
running out of contract in 6 month... maybe I'll do a reconversion in 
the software engineering :-). But something disturbs me a bit... is 
$55000 a correct year salary in the states?

It sounds very low to me.


Since we are at it: What would be 'average'?


$55000 ~ 42000 euros. The average salary for a recently graduated 
engineer is 3 euros (gross) in France. Last time I had a salary it 
was way above that, but then I am not very young :-)


Abdel.



Re: Mildly interesting...

2007-02-11 Thread Peter Kümmel
John Levon wrote:
> I'd love for somebody to get paid for LyX work. 

It seems to me that most of the LyX developers
get paid for working on LyX because beyond normal
working hours the traffic on the list is very low. ;)

Peter


Re: Mildly interesting...

2007-02-11 Thread José Matos
On Sunday 11 February 2007 2:47:51 pm Peter Kümmel wrote:
> John Levon wrote:
> > I'd love for somebody to get paid for LyX work.
>
> It seems to me that most of the LyX developers
> get paid for working on LyX because beyond normal
> working hours the traffic on the list is very low. ;)

  Either that or they have a life, always a good sign when talking about 
developers. ;-)

> Peter

-- 
José Abílio


Re: Mildly interesting...

2007-02-16 Thread Bernhard Reiter
On a side note, speaking of doing paid work for LyX: 

http://google-code-updates.blogspot.com/2007/02/speaking-of-summer.html

Maybe some sub-projects lend themselves to something like that?

Bernhard

Am Sonntag, den 04.02.2007, 00:49 + schrieb John Levon:
> On Sat, Feb 03, 2007 at 11:26:56PM +0100, Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
> 
> > Personally I would be interested to do some paid work for LyX. I am 
> > running out of contract in 6 month... maybe I'll do a reconversion in 
> > the software engineering :-). But something disturbs me a bit... is 
> > $55000 a correct year salary in the states?
> 
> It sounds very low to me.
> 
> I'd love for somebody to get paid for LyX work. AFAIK I'm the only
> person to have ever been paid for that. Maybe we should be apply for
> more grants, I believe there are several available these days up for the
> taking...
> 
> regards
> john