Re: http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX137pre

2005-11-13 Thread Uwe Stöhr

Angus Leeming wrote:


Michael tells me that these fonts problems are fixed in the latest and
greatest version of Qt/Win Free.


Could you compile an actual qt-mt3.dll and put it on the web.

Many thanks in advance and regards
Uwe


Re: http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX137pre

2005-11-13 Thread Uwe Stöhr

Angus Leeming wrote:


Michael tells me that these fonts problems are fixed in the latest and
greatest version of Qt/Win Free.


Could you compile an actual qt-mt3.dll and put it on the web.

Many thanks in advance and regards
Uwe


Re: http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX137pre

2005-11-08 Thread Luis Rivera
Angus Leeming [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I removed it when I thought you'd grabbed it. Try again but note I've
 renamed it as:
 http://www.lyx.org/~leeming/lyx-1.3.7cvs_6Nov2005.tar.gz

Got it. Thank you for your patience...

Luis. 






Re: http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX137pre

2005-11-08 Thread Angus Leeming
Luis Rivera wrote:
 I removed it when I thought you'd grabbed it. Try again but note I've
 renamed it as:
 http://www.lyx.org/~leeming/lyx-1.3.7cvs_6Nov2005.tar.gz
 
 Got it. Thank you for your patience...

Not at all.

-- 
Angus



Re: http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX137pre

2005-11-08 Thread Luis Rivera
Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I removed it when I thought you'd grabbed it. Try again but note I've
> renamed it as:
> http://www.lyx.org/~leeming/lyx-1.3.7cvs_6Nov2005.tar.gz

Got it. Thank you for your patience...

Luis. 






Re: http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX137pre

2005-11-08 Thread Angus Leeming
Luis Rivera wrote:
>> I removed it when I thought you'd grabbed it. Try again but note I've
>> renamed it as:
>> http://www.lyx.org/~leeming/lyx-1.3.7cvs_6Nov2005.tar.gz
> 
> Got it. Thank you for your patience...

Not at all.

-- 
Angus



Re: http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX137pre

2005-11-06 Thread Angus Leeming
Luis Rivera wrote:
 http://www.lyx.org/~leeming/lyx-1.3.7cvs.tar.gz
 The source code at this URL seems to have disappeared.

I removed it when I thought you'd grabbed it. Try again but note I've
renamed it as:
http://www.lyx.org/~leeming/lyx-1.3.7cvs_6Nov2005.tar.gz

-- 
Angus



Re: http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX137pre

2005-11-06 Thread Angus Leeming
Luis Rivera wrote:
>> http://www.lyx.org/~leeming/lyx-1.3.7cvs.tar.gz
> The source code at this URL seems to have disappeared.

I removed it when I thought you'd grabbed it. Try again but note I've
renamed it as:
http://www.lyx.org/~leeming/lyx-1.3.7cvs_6Nov2005.tar.gz

-- 
Angus



Re: http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX137pre

2005-11-05 Thread Luis Rivera
Angus Leeming [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 http://www.lyx.org/~leeming/lyx-1.3.7cvs.tar.gz
 

Angus,

The source code at this URL seems to have disappeared.  Is it on the wiki page?

Thanks.

Luis.



Re: http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX137pre

2005-11-05 Thread Luis Rivera
Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> 
> http://www.lyx.org/~leeming/lyx-1.3.7cvs.tar.gz
> 

Angus,

The source code at this URL seems to have disappeared.  Is it on the wiki page?

Thanks.

Luis.



Re: http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX137pre

2005-11-02 Thread Angus Leeming
Luis Rivera wrote:
 
 In 1.3.7pre2 (on Win XP) S-C-M minimizes the application (and every
 other window) and crashes to the desktop (same as the Show
 Desktop
 shortcut).  The LyX window is alive and well, just minimized.

 I found the same behavior on Win98.

 I don't know, but seems to me that the latest patch on Qt made both
 LyX work on Win98 and popped up these funny things everywhere.

 By the way, I happened to fix the script and font problems by
 brute force: since my Win98 box is much slower, I kept starting
 LyX over and over, without realizing it, and suddenly the scripts
 ran as expected; then I realized the menus
 were messed up, but I went on anyway, and since I know some
 menus by heart, I opened one document--the user manual--, and
 LyX did the layout and font loading right. Then I restarted LyX,
 and everything was fine.

 Very weird...

Michael tells me that these fonts problems are fixed in the latest and
greatest version of Qt/Win Free.

-- 
Angus



Re: http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX137pre

2005-11-02 Thread Angus Leeming
Luis Rivera wrote:
 Luis, I'd be interested to see what happens on your Win98 box...

 I am happy to report that I am having Johann's and Paul's problems
 with LyX 1.3.7pre2 on Win98... I mean: exactly the same problems...
 
 Which means that LyX 1.3.7pre2 is finally running well on Win98
 (well, at least as well as it does on the other Win platforms :-)

This is with a native Win32 version or with the Cygwin version?

 This far, it's also running well on WinXP and Win2k, provided I
 uninstall the previous version before installing the update.
 Learning from others' experience ;-)

Uwe, are you reading this? I think you should aim to get the
WindowInstaller to die gracefully if it is required to overwrite an
existing version. At the moment it appears to work but actually
does nothing at all.

-- 
Angus



Re: http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX137pre

2005-11-02 Thread Luis Rivera
Angus Leeming [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 Luis Rivera wrote:
  
  Which means that LyX 1.3.7pre2 is finally running well on Win98
  (well, at least as well as it does on the other Win platforms 
 
 This is with a native Win32 version or with the Cygwin version?
 

this is the native Win32 version distributed on the wiki page; 
I haven't had the time to download and compile the source code 
on cygwin+xforms: my prime target actually...

As soon as I get that, I'll report on cygwin.

Sorry for the confusion...

Luis.




Re: http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX137pre

2005-11-02 Thread Angus Leeming
Luis Rivera wrote:
>> 
>> In 1.3.7pre2 (on Win XP) S-C-M minimizes the application (and every
>> other window) and "crashes" to the desktop (same as the "Show
>> Desktop"
>> shortcut).  The LyX window is alive and well, just minimized.

> I found the same behavior on Win98.

> I don't know, but seems to me that the latest patch on Qt made both
> LyX work on Win98 and popped up these funny things everywhere.

> By the way, I happened to fix the script and font problems by
> brute force: since my Win98 box is much slower, I kept starting
> LyX over and over, without realizing it, and suddenly the scripts
> ran as expected; then I realized the menus
> were messed up, but I went on anyway, and since I know some
> menus by heart, I opened one document--the user manual--, and
> LyX did the layout and font loading right. Then I restarted LyX,
> and everything was fine.

> Very weird...

Michael tells me that these fonts problems are fixed in the latest and
greatest version of Qt/Win Free.

-- 
Angus



Re: http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX137pre

2005-11-02 Thread Angus Leeming
Luis Rivera wrote:
>> Luis, I'd be interested to see what happens on your Win98 box...

> I am happy to report that I am having Johann's and Paul's problems
> with LyX 1.3.7pre2 on Win98... I mean: exactly the same problems...
> 
> Which means that LyX 1.3.7pre2 is finally running well on Win98
> (well, at least as well as it does on the other Win platforms :-)

This is with a native Win32 version or with the Cygwin version?

> This far, it's also running well on WinXP and Win2k, provided I
> uninstall the previous version before installing the update.
> Learning from others' experience ;-)

Uwe, are you reading this? I think you should aim to get the
WindowInstaller to die gracefully if it is required to overwrite an
existing version. At the moment it "appears" to work but actually
does nothing at all.

-- 
Angus



Re: http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX137pre

2005-11-02 Thread Luis Rivera
Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> 
> Luis Rivera wrote:
> > 
> > Which means that LyX 1.3.7pre2 is finally running well on Win98
> > (well, at least as well as it does on the other Win platforms 
> 
> This is with a native Win32 version or with the Cygwin version?
> 

this is the native Win32 version distributed on the wiki page; 
I haven't had the time to download and compile the source code 
on cygwin+xforms: my prime target actually...

As soon as I get that, I'll report on cygwin.

Sorry for the confusion...

Luis.




Re: http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX137pre

2005-11-01 Thread Angus Leeming
Luis Rivera wrote:
 Actually, I dunno if you can make a gzipped tarball of the source
 code available on the wiki.  I'm still having trouble grabbing 
 the cvs tree--- courtesy of my webmaster---, and I'd like to know
 if the cygwin version runs on win95/98, now that I know it can
 compile and run.

http://www.lyx.org/~leeming/lyx-1.3.7cvs.tar.gz
It's 7.8MB in size.

-- 
Angus



Re: http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX137pre

2005-11-01 Thread Luis Rivera
Angus Leeming [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 http://www.lyx.org/~leeming/lyx-1.3.7cvs.tar.gz
 It's 7.8MB in size.
 

Thank you!



Re: http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX137pre

2005-11-01 Thread Luis Rivera
Angus Leeming [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 Luis, I'd be interested to see what happens on your Win98 box...
 

I am happy to report that I am having Johann's and Paul's problems with 
LyX 1.3.7pre2 on Win98... I mean: exactly the same problems...

Which means that LyX 1.3.7pre2 is finally running well on Win98 (well, 
at least as well as it does on the other Win platforms :-)

This far, it's also running well on WinXP and Win2k, provided I 
uninstall the previous version before installing the update.  
Learning from others' experience ;-) 

Cheers,

Luis.




Re: http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX137pre

2005-11-01 Thread Luis Rivera
Paul A. Rubin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 In 1.3.7pre2 (on Win XP) S-C-M minimizes the application (and every 
 other window) and crashes to the desktop (same as the Show Desktop 
 shortcut).  The LyX window is alive and well, just minimized.
 

I found the same behavior on Win98.

I don't know, but seems to me that the latest patch on Qt made both 
LyX work on Win98 and popped up these funny things everywhere.

By the way, I happened to fix the script and font problems by 
brute force: since my Win98 box is much slower, I kept starting 
LyX over and over, without realizing it, and suddenly the scripts 
ran as expected; then I realized the menus 
were messed up, but I went on anyway, and since I know some 
menus by heart, I opened one document--the user manual--, and 
LyX did the layout and font loading right. Then I restarted LyX, 
and everything was fine.

Very weird...

Luis.



Re: http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX137pre

2005-11-01 Thread Angus Leeming
Luis Rivera wrote:
> Actually, I dunno if you can make a gzipped tarball of the source
> code available on the wiki.  I'm still having trouble grabbing 
> the cvs tree--- courtesy of my webmaster---, and I'd like to know
> if the cygwin version runs on win95/98, now that I know it can
> compile and run.

http://www.lyx.org/~leeming/lyx-1.3.7cvs.tar.gz
It's 7.8MB in size.

-- 
Angus



Re: http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX137pre

2005-11-01 Thread Luis Rivera
Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> 
> http://www.lyx.org/~leeming/lyx-1.3.7cvs.tar.gz
> It's 7.8MB in size.
> 

Thank you!



Re: http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX137pre

2005-11-01 Thread Luis Rivera
Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> 
> Luis, I'd be interested to see what happens on your Win98 box...
> 

I am happy to report that I am having Johann's and Paul's problems with 
LyX 1.3.7pre2 on Win98... I mean: exactly the same problems...

Which means that LyX 1.3.7pre2 is finally running well on Win98 (well, 
at least as well as it does on the other Win platforms :-)

This far, it's also running well on WinXP and Win2k, provided I 
uninstall the previous version before installing the update.  
Learning from others' experience ;-) 

Cheers,

Luis.




Re: http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX137pre

2005-11-01 Thread Luis Rivera
Paul A. Rubin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> 
> In 1.3.7pre2 (on Win XP) S-C-M minimizes the application (and every 
> other window) and "crashes" to the desktop (same as the "Show Desktop" 
> shortcut).  The LyX window is alive and well, just minimized.
> 

I found the same behavior on Win98.

I don't know, but seems to me that the latest patch on Qt made both 
LyX work on Win98 and popped up these funny things everywhere.

By the way, I happened to fix the script and font problems by 
brute force: since my Win98 box is much slower, I kept starting 
LyX over and over, without realizing it, and suddenly the scripts 
ran as expected; then I realized the menus 
were messed up, but I went on anyway, and since I know some 
menus by heart, I opened one document--the user manual--, and 
LyX did the layout and font loading right. Then I restarted LyX, 
and everything was fine.

Very weird...

Luis.



Re: http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX137pre

2005-10-31 Thread Luis Rivera
Angus Leeming [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 Christian Ehrlicher has told me that he's resolved many of the outstanding 
 issues with the Cue Tea/Win code that were introduced by the backporting 
 of some official Qt4 code into their code base.
 
 I thought, therefore, that I'd upload a snapshot of the current LyX 1.3.x 
 CVS tree to http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX137pre
 
 Windows users please try it out. If you're happy with it then I propose to 
 announce it to the lyx-users list sometime soonish too.
 
 I'm aware that this executable does not resolve all outstanding issues. In 
 particular, it won't work on Win95 (some weird path problem) and there are 
 problems parsing the list of BibTeX references on opening the citation 
 dialog if the BibTeX database has a path with spaces.
 
 Luis, I'd be interested to see what happens on your Win98 box...
 

Got it.

Actually, I dunno if you can make a gzipped tarball of the source code 
available on the wiki.  I'm still having trouble grabbing the cvs tree---
courtesy of my webmaster---, and I'd like to know if the cygwin version runs on 
win95/98, now that I know it can compile and run.

Luis.




Re: http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX137pre

2005-10-31 Thread Luis Rivera
Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> 
> Christian Ehrlicher has told me that he's resolved many of the outstanding 
> issues with the "Cue Tea"/Win code that were introduced by the backporting 
> of some official Qt4 code into their code base.
> 
> I thought, therefore, that I'd upload a snapshot of the current LyX 1.3.x 
> CVS tree to http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX137pre
> 
> Windows users please try it out. If you're happy with it then I propose to 
> announce it to the lyx-users list sometime soonish too.
> 
> I'm aware that this executable does not resolve all outstanding issues. In 
> particular, it won't work on Win95 (some weird path problem) and there are 
> problems parsing the list of BibTeX references on opening the citation 
> dialog if the BibTeX database has a "path with spaces".
> 
> Luis, I'd be interested to see what happens on your Win98 box...
> 

Got it.

Actually, I dunno if you can make a gzipped tarball of the source code 
available on the wiki.  I'm still having trouble grabbing the cvs tree---
courtesy of my webmaster---, and I'd like to know if the cygwin version runs on 
win95/98, now that I know it can compile and run.

Luis.




Re: http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX137pre

2005-10-30 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Angus Leeming wrote:
Christian Ehrlicher has told me that he's resolved many of the 
outstanding issues with the Cue Tea/Win code that were introduced by 
the backporting of some official Qt4 code into their code base.


I thought, therefore, that I'd upload a snapshot of the current LyX 
1.3.x CVS tree to http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX137pre


Windows users please try it out. If you're happy with it then I propose 
to announce it to the lyx-users list sometime soonish too.




Angus,

Further on the installation problem where the configuration script does 
not run.  I matched Johann's report when I installed 1.3.7pre2 over 
1.3.7pre1 on my laptop.  I believe Johann also installed over an 
existing copy.  Today I installed 1.3.7pre2 on my home machine, but I 
installed it into a separate directory.  The configuration script ran 
fine.  So it seems plausible that the configuration failure is tied to 
overwriting a previous installation.


Paul



Re: http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX137pre

2005-10-30 Thread Paul A. Rubin
In 1.3.7pre2 (on Win XP) S-C-M minimizes the application (and every 
other window) and crashes to the desktop (same as the Show Desktop 
shortcut).  The LyX window is alive and well, just minimized.


Didn't find this when I searched bugzilla (which proves nothing, given 
the number of variants on how it could be worded), and wasn't sure how 
to report it (given that 1.3.7pre is not listed as a version, though it 
is a target).  Might be a Qt bug (?).


Paul



Re: http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX137pre

2005-10-30 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Angus Leeming wrote:
Christian Ehrlicher has told me that he's resolved many of the 
outstanding issues with the "Cue Tea"/Win code that were introduced by 
the backporting of some official Qt4 code into their code base.


I thought, therefore, that I'd upload a snapshot of the current LyX 
1.3.x CVS tree to http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX137pre


Windows users please try it out. If you're happy with it then I propose 
to announce it to the lyx-users list sometime soonish too.




Angus,

Further on the installation problem where the configuration script does 
not run.  I matched Johann's report when I installed 1.3.7pre2 over 
1.3.7pre1 on my laptop.  I believe Johann also installed over an 
existing copy.  Today I installed 1.3.7pre2 on my home machine, but I 
installed it into a separate directory.  The configuration script ran 
fine.  So it seems plausible that the configuration failure is tied to 
overwriting a previous installation.


Paul



Re: http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX137pre

2005-10-30 Thread Paul A. Rubin
In 1.3.7pre2 (on Win XP) S-C-M minimizes the application (and every 
other window) and "crashes" to the desktop (same as the "Show Desktop" 
shortcut).  The LyX window is alive and well, just minimized.


Didn't find this when I searched bugzilla (which proves nothing, given 
the number of variants on how it could be worded), and wasn't sure how 
to report it (given that 1.3.7pre is not listed as a version, though it 
is a "target").  Might be a Qt bug (?).


Paul



Re: http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX137pre

2005-10-28 Thread Angus Leeming
Paul A. Rubin wrote:
 Angus Leeming wrote:
 Uwe Stöhr wrote:
Uwe is it possible to set the screen fonts and the zoom while LyX's
Uwe configuration? We would then be independent from Qt's behaviour.
Uwe Arial, Times New Roman, and Courier New are part of all Windows
Uwe installations, so that this should work on all machines.

Angus You mean output these values to the lyxrc.defaults file when
Angus running the Windows installer? Sure. Go for it.

Paul I'm not saying this would be a bad idea, but it would 
Paul not resolve the problem Johann and I encountered. 
Paul When I installed 1.3.7pre2, it correctly picked up the
Paul screen font and zoom settings I'd been using in 1.3.7pre1 
Paul and 1.3.6 from my preferences file.  It just didn't apply
Paul them to the dialogs.

It never has. It never will.

The appearance of the dialogs, menus, everything except the main LyX
screen is a system-wide thing that is controlled by qtconfig. None of
our business.

Anyway, as you say, this problem is orthogonal to the one where LyX
makes a bad guess of the screen fonts (again using info supplied to
it by Qt...)

-- 
Angus



Re: http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX137pre

2005-10-28 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Angus Leeming wrote:

Paul A. Rubin wrote:


Should someone report this to the Qt developers,



Feel free. Screenshots always help. However, Christian does know about
something similar.



It might be the bug

http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=1330978group_id=49109atid=455140

in which case it might already be fixed.

Paul



Re: http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX137pre

2005-10-28 Thread Angus Leeming
Paul A. Rubin wrote:
> Angus Leeming wrote:
>> Uwe Stöhr wrote:
Uwe> is it possible to set the screen fonts and the zoom while LyX's
Uwe> configuration? We would then be independent from Qt's behaviour.
Uwe> Arial, Times New Roman, and Courier New are part of all Windows
Uwe> installations, so that this should work on all machines.

Angus> You mean output these values to the lyxrc.defaults file when
Angus> running the Windows installer? Sure. Go for it.

Paul> I'm not saying this would be a bad idea, but it would 
Paul> not resolve the problem Johann and I encountered. 
Paul> When I installed 1.3.7pre2, it correctly picked up the
Paul> screen font and zoom settings I'd been using in 1.3.7pre1 
Paul> and 1.3.6 from my preferences file.  It just didn't apply
Paul> them to the dialogs.

It never has. It never will.

The appearance of the dialogs, menus, everything except the main LyX
screen is a system-wide thing that is controlled by qtconfig. None of
our business.

Anyway, as you say, this problem is orthogonal to the one where LyX
makes a bad guess of the screen fonts (again using info supplied to
it by Qt...)

-- 
Angus



Re: http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX137pre

2005-10-28 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Angus Leeming wrote:

Paul A. Rubin wrote:


Should someone report this to the Qt developers,



Feel free. Screenshots always help. However, Christian does know about
something similar.



It might be the bug

http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail=1330978_id=49109=455140

in which case it might already be fixed.

Paul



Re: http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX137pre

2005-10-27 Thread Johann Kellerman
Paul A. Rubin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


 I also did the reverse of Johann's experiment:  I reinstalled LyX 1.3.6 
 (in a separate directory -- installation went fine) and copied the 
 qt-mt3.dll file from that version into the 1.3.7 bin directory.  That 
 cured the font problems in 1.3.7.
 
 Paul
 
 
 

My Lyx used exactly the same font! A simple solution is to delete the Algerian
font from your windows\fonts directory.  The next best is Arial, which looks
decent. Algerian is an ugly font anyway...

Johann



Re: http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX137pre

2005-10-27 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Johann Kellerman wrote:



My Lyx used exactly the same font! A simple solution is to delete the Algerian
font from your windows\fonts directory.  The next best is Arial, which looks
decent. Algerian is an ugly font anyway...

Johann


Wish it were that simple.  When I deleted Algerian, Allegro BT was next 
in line, and it's even harder to read than Algerian was.  When I deleted 
that as well, Qt moved on to American Typewriter, which is next 
alphabetically (and at least legible).


Anyway, I think you've provided a useful clue to where the problem lies. 
 Even though the Edit-Preferences-Look and feel-Screen fonts dialog 
shows Arial as the sans-serif choice, it's not being used in the 
dialogs.  For what it's worth, on my system Algerian is the *third* font 
alphabetically (Agency and Agency Bold are the first two).  If Algerian 
is missing, Qt moves down the list alphabetically.  It seems odd that it 
skips the first two fonts.


Should someone report this to the Qt developers, or could it possibly be 
a LyX bug?  (In other words, does LyX assert any control over the font 
selection in the dialogs?)


Paul




Re: http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX137pre

2005-10-27 Thread Angus Leeming
Paul A. Rubin wrote:
 Should someone report this to the Qt developers,

Feel free. Screenshots always help. However, Christian does know about
something similar.

 or could it possibly be a LyX bug?  (In other words, does LyX assert
 any control over the font selection in the dialogs?)

No, it leaves that to Qt.

-- 
Angus



Re: http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX137pre

2005-10-27 Thread Uwe Stöhr

Angus,

is it possible to set the screen fonts and the zoom while LyX's 
configuration? We would then be independent from Qt's behaviour.
Arial, Times New Roman, and Courier New are part of all Windows 
installations, so that this should work on all machines.


regards uwe


Re: http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX137pre

2005-10-27 Thread Angus Leeming
Uwe Stöhr wrote:

 Angus,
 
 is it possible to set the screen fonts and the zoom while LyX's
 configuration? We would then be independent from Qt's behaviour.
 Arial, Times New Roman, and Courier New are part of all Windows
 installations, so that this should work on all machines.

You mean output these values to the lyxrc.defaults file when running the
Windows installer? Sure. Go for it.

-- 
Angus



Re: http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX137pre

2005-10-27 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Angus Leeming wrote:

Uwe Stöhr wrote:



Angus,

is it possible to set the screen fonts and the zoom while LyX's
configuration? We would then be independent from Qt's behaviour.
Arial, Times New Roman, and Courier New are part of all Windows
installations, so that this should work on all machines.



You mean output these values to the lyxrc.defaults file when running the
Windows installer? Sure. Go for it.



I'm not saying this would be a bad idea, but it would not resolve the 
problem Johann and I encountered.  When I installed 1.3.7pre2, it 
correctly picked up the screen font and zoom settings I'd been using in 
1.3.7pre1 and 1.3.6 from my preferences file.  It just didn't apply them 
to the dialogs.


Paul



Re: http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX137pre

2005-10-27 Thread Johann Kellerman
Paul A. Rubin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:


> I also did the reverse of Johann's experiment:  I reinstalled LyX 1.3.6 
> (in a separate directory -- installation went fine) and copied the 
> qt-mt3.dll file from that version into the 1.3.7 bin directory.  That 
> cured the font problems in 1.3.7.
> 
> Paul
> 
> 
> 

My Lyx used exactly the same font! A simple solution is to delete the Algerian
font from your windows\fonts directory.  The next best is Arial, which looks
decent. Algerian is an ugly font anyway...

Johann



Re: http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX137pre

2005-10-27 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Johann Kellerman wrote:



My Lyx used exactly the same font! A simple solution is to delete the Algerian
font from your windows\fonts directory.  The next best is Arial, which looks
decent. Algerian is an ugly font anyway...

Johann


Wish it were that simple.  When I deleted Algerian, Allegro BT was next 
in line, and it's even harder to read than Algerian was.  When I deleted 
that as well, Qt moved on to American Typewriter, which is next 
alphabetically (and at least legible).


Anyway, I think you've provided a useful clue to where the problem lies. 
 Even though the Edit->Preferences->Look and feel->Screen fonts dialog 
shows Arial as the sans-serif choice, it's not being used in the 
dialogs.  For what it's worth, on my system Algerian is the *third* font 
alphabetically (Agency and Agency Bold are the first two).  If Algerian 
is missing, Qt moves down the list alphabetically.  It seems odd that it 
skips the first two fonts.


Should someone report this to the Qt developers, or could it possibly be 
a LyX bug?  (In other words, does LyX assert any control over the font 
selection in the dialogs?)


Paul




Re: http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX137pre

2005-10-27 Thread Angus Leeming
Paul A. Rubin wrote:
> Should someone report this to the Qt developers,

Feel free. Screenshots always help. However, Christian does know about
something similar.

> or could it possibly be a LyX bug?  (In other words, does LyX assert
> any control over the font selection in the dialogs?)

No, it leaves that to Qt.

-- 
Angus



Re: http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX137pre

2005-10-27 Thread Uwe Stöhr

Angus,

is it possible to set the screen fonts and the zoom while LyX's 
configuration? We would then be independent from Qt's behaviour.
Arial, Times New Roman, and Courier New are part of all Windows 
installations, so that this should work on all machines.


regards uwe


Re: http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX137pre

2005-10-27 Thread Angus Leeming
Uwe Stöhr wrote:

> Angus,
> 
> is it possible to set the screen fonts and the zoom while LyX's
> configuration? We would then be independent from Qt's behaviour.
> Arial, Times New Roman, and Courier New are part of all Windows
> installations, so that this should work on all machines.

You mean output these values to the lyxrc.defaults file when running the
Windows installer? Sure. Go for it.

-- 
Angus



Re: http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX137pre

2005-10-27 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Angus Leeming wrote:

Uwe Stöhr wrote:



Angus,

is it possible to set the screen fonts and the zoom while LyX's
configuration? We would then be independent from Qt's behaviour.
Arial, Times New Roman, and Courier New are part of all Windows
installations, so that this should work on all machines.



You mean output these values to the lyxrc.defaults file when running the
Windows installer? Sure. Go for it.



I'm not saying this would be a bad idea, but it would not resolve the 
problem Johann and I encountered.  When I installed 1.3.7pre2, it 
correctly picked up the screen font and zoom settings I'd been using in 
1.3.7pre1 and 1.3.6 from my preferences file.  It just didn't apply them 
to the dialogs.


Paul



Re: http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX137pre

2005-10-26 Thread Johann Kellerman
A couple of problems.

When installing it over the previous 1.3.6 the configure step during setup fails
and lyx has to be closed and opended again to configure. Doing it this way gives
completely unreadable fonts in all the dialogs - looks likes 'Algerian' font.
The fonts on the menu bars is also a very bold font.

Removing the old lyx dir and installing fresh: Once again configure failed. and
Lyx wouldn't even start this time - textclass.lst not found.

Going back to 1.3.6...

Copied the new qt-mt3.dll to lyx 1.3.6 and got the same font issues. At least
reconfigure seems to work.

Regards,
Johann




Re: http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX137pre

2005-10-26 Thread Angus Leeming
Johann Kellerman wrote:

 A couple of problems.
 
 When installing it over the previous 1.3.6 the configure step during
 setup fails and lyx has to be closed and opended again to configure.
 Doing it this way gives completely unreadable fonts in all the
 dialogs - looks likes 'Algerian' font. The fonts on the menu bars is
 also a very bold font.
 
 Removing the old lyx dir and installing fresh: Once again configure
 failed. and Lyx wouldn't even start this time - textclass.lst not
 found.
 
 Going back to 1.3.6...
 
 Copied the new qt-mt3.dll to lyx 1.3.6 and got the same font issues.
 At least reconfigure seems to work.

Thanks, Johann.

Stephen Harris has given me a detailed prescription on how to
reproduce the textclass.lst problem.

The font problem? I suspect that's simply down to the fact that the
code that LyX uses to find the default fonts isn't working. Known
bug. Once you specify the fonts explicitly in the Edit-Preferences
dialog, you'll be OK.

Anyway, clearly more work needed :(

-- 
Angus



Re: http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX137pre

2005-10-26 Thread Johann Kellerman

 Anyway, clearly more work needed :(
 

Keep up the good work! Lyx 1.3.6 is very impressive already, got 3 windows
people LyXing with it.

The font issue is with the actual text in the dialogs. All the controls/widgets
except the buttons use the strange font. The fonts in the Lyx editor window (the
ones you can set) is fine.

Johann



Re: http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX137pre

2005-10-26 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Johann Kellerman wrote:

Anyway, clearly more work needed :(




Keep up the good work! Lyx 1.3.6 is very impressive already, got 3 windows
people LyXing with it.

The font issue is with the actual text in the dialogs. All the controls/widgets
except the buttons use the strange font. The fonts in the Lyx editor window (the
ones you can set) is fine.

Johann


I can confirm Johann's findings.  I have MiKTeX set up to query me 
before adding packages, and I lack some of the packages that LyX looks 
for in the configuration script.  This will be relevant in what follows.


I installed LyX 1.3.7v2 over LyX 1.3.7v1.  As Johann reported, when the 
installer got to the point of running the configuration script, it threw 
up an error message.  Since I got no prompts from MiKTeX to install 
missing packages (which I normally get when the installer runs the 
configuration script), I can attest to the fact that the script failed. 
 I told the installer to go ahead and start LyX anyway.  LyX 
started fine and retained the configuration information from the 
previous version (including recognition of added layouts, such as 
Beamer).  When I exited and restarted LyX, it took a long time to start, 
and MiKTeX bugged me about loading missing classes, so apparently the 
configuration script ran that time.  Again, it found the Beamer layout, 
so I take the configuration to have been successful.


The toolbar buttons look ok, and the menus appear in a legible (if not 
necessarily aesthetic -- they seem to be bolded) font.  All dialogs 
(Edit-Preferences, File-Save As) and the environment widget are 
written in what appears to be a (barely legible) outline font.  Note 
that Edit-Preferences-Look and Feel-Screen fonts retained my 
selections from the previous version (Times New Roman, Arial and 
Courier), and the samples of each drawn to the right of the select boxes 
look correct, but everything else in that dialog might as well be 
hieroglyphics.


I'm attaching a screen shot.  (Disclaimer:  Management is not 
responsible for dizziness, headaches or watering of eyes resulting from 
viewing this image.)


I also did the reverse of Johann's experiment:  I reinstalled LyX 1.3.6 
(in a separate directory -- installation went fine) and copied the 
qt-mt3.dll file from that version into the 1.3.7 bin directory.  That 
cured the font problems in 1.3.7.


Paul




Re: http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX137pre

2005-10-26 Thread Johann Kellerman
A couple of problems.

When installing it over the previous 1.3.6 the configure step during setup fails
and lyx has to be closed and opended again to configure. Doing it this way gives
completely unreadable fonts in all the dialogs - looks likes 'Algerian' font.
The fonts on the menu bars is also a very bold font.

Removing the old lyx dir and installing fresh: Once again configure failed. and
Lyx wouldn't even start this time - textclass.lst not found.

Going back to 1.3.6...

Copied the new qt-mt3.dll to lyx 1.3.6 and got the same font issues. At least
reconfigure seems to work.

Regards,
Johann




Re: http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX137pre

2005-10-26 Thread Angus Leeming
Johann Kellerman wrote:

> A couple of problems.
> 
> When installing it over the previous 1.3.6 the configure step during
> setup fails and lyx has to be closed and opended again to configure.
> Doing it this way gives completely unreadable fonts in all the
> dialogs - looks likes 'Algerian' font. The fonts on the menu bars is
> also a very bold font.
> 
> Removing the old lyx dir and installing fresh: Once again configure
> failed. and Lyx wouldn't even start this time - textclass.lst not
> found.
> 
> Going back to 1.3.6...
> 
> Copied the new qt-mt3.dll to lyx 1.3.6 and got the same font issues.
> At least reconfigure seems to work.

Thanks, Johann.

Stephen Harris has given me a detailed prescription on how to
reproduce the textclass.lst problem.

The font problem? I suspect that's simply down to the fact that the
code that LyX uses to find the default fonts isn't working. Known
bug. Once you specify the fonts explicitly in the Edit->Preferences
dialog, you'll be OK.

Anyway, clearly more work needed :(

-- 
Angus



Re: http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX137pre

2005-10-26 Thread Johann Kellerman

> Anyway, clearly more work needed :(
> 

Keep up the good work! Lyx 1.3.6 is very impressive already, got 3 windows
people LyXing with it.

The font issue is with the actual text in the dialogs. All the controls/widgets
except the buttons use the strange font. The fonts in the Lyx editor window (the
ones you can set) is fine.

Johann



Re: http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX137pre

2005-10-26 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Johann Kellerman wrote:

Anyway, clearly more work needed :(




Keep up the good work! Lyx 1.3.6 is very impressive already, got 3 windows
people LyXing with it.

The font issue is with the actual text in the dialogs. All the controls/widgets
except the buttons use the strange font. The fonts in the Lyx editor window (the
ones you can set) is fine.

Johann


I can confirm Johann's findings.  I have MiKTeX set up to query me 
before adding packages, and I lack some of the packages that LyX looks 
for in the configuration script.  This will be relevant in what follows.


I installed LyX 1.3.7v2 over LyX 1.3.7v1.  As Johann reported, when the 
installer got to the point of running the configuration script, it threw 
up an error message.  Since I got no prompts from MiKTeX to install 
missing packages (which I normally get when the installer runs the 
configuration script), I can attest to the fact that the script failed. 
 I told the installer to go ahead and start LyX anyway.  LyX 
started fine and retained the configuration information from the 
previous version (including recognition of added layouts, such as 
Beamer).  When I exited and restarted LyX, it took a long time to start, 
and MiKTeX bugged me about loading missing classes, so apparently the 
configuration script ran that time.  Again, it found the Beamer layout, 
so I take the configuration to have been successful.


The toolbar buttons look ok, and the menus appear in a legible (if not 
necessarily aesthetic -- they seem to be bolded) font.  All dialogs 
(Edit->Preferences, File->Save As) and the environment widget are 
written in what appears to be a (barely legible) outline font.  Note 
that Edit->Preferences->Look and Feel->Screen fonts retained my 
selections from the previous version (Times New Roman, Arial and 
Courier), and the samples of each drawn to the right of the select boxes 
look correct, but everything else in that dialog might as well be 
hieroglyphics.


I'm attaching a screen shot.  (Disclaimer:  Management is not 
responsible for dizziness, headaches or watering of eyes resulting from 
viewing this image.)


I also did the reverse of Johann's experiment:  I reinstalled LyX 1.3.6 
(in a separate directory -- installation went fine) and copied the 
qt-mt3.dll file from that version into the 1.3.7 bin directory.  That 
cured the font problems in 1.3.7.


Paul