RE: chapter heading on blank page and too much text in chapter heading

[Rich Shepard]

On Wed, 29 Dec 2004, Jack T. Gill wrote:
I've been monitoring this list for a couple of months. I was intrigued by
LyX and it being a WYSIWYM program. However most of the activity I've seen
on this list seems to be from folks having problems tweaking LyX, i.e.,
changing the settings or adding ERT to reformat the output to what they
want. To me that's no longer WYSIWYM, but seems to be what I've done for
years with OpenOffice or in Word---typing the content and formatting the
output.
Does anyone use LyX right out of the box (or download) without all the
tweaking?  If so, to what use are you putting it?
Jack,
  You're reading too much into what you see. For the really easy stuff no
one writes to ask for help. It's only when you don't know how to do
something (e.g., remove the date from the title page; place a special
character, have multiple equations with one number and caption, put multiple
figures or tables in the same float).
  On the other hand, I'll bet you don't use winWord or OO.o "out of the
box", either. Never used Word (yea, team!) but have used OO.o since
WordPerfect bit the dust about 5 years ago. In OO.o one must set the page
size (unless A4 is your default), specify font style, size, margins and so
on for your defaults. If you want templates then you need to create those,
too. Nothing works for everyone as built.
  What sort of writing do you do? Have you produced documents using the
article, report and/or book classes? If so, do they meet your needs? If the
defaults (and you still need to configure LyX when you carefully take it out
of the box) are acceptable, then use it and ignore the traffic here. When
you want to do more, or customize the output to fit a specific need (e.g., a
thesis/dissertation template, journal template, whatever) and you need help,
just write and someone(s) will respond to you.
  This is, without doubt, one of the most useful mail lists to which I
subscribe. I learn as much by reading how others' problems are resolved as I
do when my problems are resolved. Also, if you're serious about using LyX
buy yourself a copy of "The LaTeX Companion, Second Edition" (TLC2). Not
only is it a complete reference but it will show you what you can do to make
the output match your design.
  Once things are set up, just write. The formatting, typesetting and other
heavy lifting is done for you.
HTH,
Rich
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RE: chapter heading on blank page and too much text in chapter heading

[Jack T. Gill]

I've been monitoring this list for a couple of months.  I was intrigued by
LyX and it being a WYSIWYM program.  However most of the activity I've seen
on this list seems to be from folks having problems tweaking LyX, i.e.,
changing the settings or adding ERT to reformat the output to what they
want.  To me that's no longer WYSIWYM, but seems to be what I've done for
years with OpenOffice or in Word---typing the content and formatting the
output.

Does anyone use LyX right out of the box (or download) without all the
tweaking?  If so, to what use are you putting it?

Thanks.

Jack

-Original Message-
From: Rich Shepard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 6:56 PM
To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Subject: Re: chapter heading on blank page and too much text in chapter
heading


   I think the designers of the various classes used standard or common
designs. However, if something like this is important to you, then by all
means make the changes. :-) The memoir class will give you more options and
abilities for tweaking.

   One of the strengths of LyX (also LaTeX and TeX) is that professional
typographers and page layout designers do all the heavy thinking. I just
pick a document type and concentrate on the content rather than the
appearance. I'll change "Abstract" to "Executive Summary" when warranted,
but otherwise I ignore the details.

YMMV,

Rich

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Re: chapter heading on blank page and too much text in chapter heading

[Jeremy C. Reed]

On Wed, 29 Dec 2004, Rich Shepard wrote:

> On Wed, 29 Dec 2004, Jeremy C. Reed wrote:
>
> > An example is from the Lyx User's Guide when printed at 6"x9":
> >
> > 14CHAPTER 2. LyX SETUP AND SUPPORTING APPLICATIONS
>
> > Is the best idea to fix the chapter name? Or could the header be improved
> > to only show the first two words for example? Any ideas?
>
>AFAIK, there are two options: short titles or fancy headers. I've used
> both short titles and shortening the chapter or section name.

I am trying to figure out how to get it so the chapter name and number is
only on the left even pages and the section name and number is on the
right side of the odd pages.

\fancyhead[RO]{\slshape \thesection}
\fancyhead[RE]{}
\fancyhead[LE]{\slshape \thechapter}
\fancyhead[LO]{}

The above works (in my preamble) to show numbers, but I don't have the
actual chapter name.

When I try to define a \chaptermarker, then both become blank. I tried
several ideas; here is one I tried:

\renewcommand{\chaptermark}[1]{%
 \markboth{\chaptername
\ \thechapter.\ #1{}}

I am trying to figure this out from reading fancyhdr.dvi (Dec. 16, 2002)
document.

For example, I want on left side of even page:

  Chapter 2. LyX Setup and Supporting Applications

And I want on the right side of odd page:

  Section 2.3 Setting up the X Keyboard

Any assistance would be appreciated.

 Jeremy C. Reed

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Re: 1.3.3 on XP - no output

[Robert Orr]

I have to comment that the exact method on the wiki
page didn't work for me.

Even following the tips for "If LyX's configuration
fails or was incomplete"  I could never get LyX
configure to complete without errors.   I consistently
got hung up with a SED error 

sed: file chkconfig.sed line 1: Unknown option to 's'

and could never get past it, despite installing
various versions of GNUSED.   I think there is
something not quite right regarding that part of the
wiki page.   The part about what to do with 
"install the latest version of sed from the sed.exe
setup file, which can be found at sourceforge."  
It seems very unclear about exactly what one is 
supposed to do there. 

In regards to installing the other packages, like
ghostview and acroread, I found that (I have Cygwin on
my XP box) creating soft links ln -s gswin32.exe
gs.exe helped to get the script to recognize these
programs when doing the LyX configure.If you make
copies of these programs and rename them to what LyX
is looking for, that also works to allow LyX to find
them.   Essentially the LyX script is looking for the
*nix version of these programs an doesn't check
properly for the win32 versions.   I could be wrong
about it, but that is the way it seemed to me.   So
bottom line, your LyX configure will probably go
better if you rename those programs so that LyX can
find them.   

I'm eagerly awaiting a cleaner install package. 

For the record, I put my MikTex, Ghostview,
Ghostscript, Imagemagic, and AdobeReader in the top
level at C:\


 
--- Rob S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> Dave,
> 
> 
> > I've just installed the windows port for lyx. I
> can't view or export output in
> > dvi,  ps, pdf. View > DVI gives me an empty tex
> file. When I build the tex file
> > manually or with TeXniC everything is fine so I
> presume my miktex is working as
> > it should.
> > Multiple runs of Edit > Reconfigure don't help.
> > Edit > Preferences > Converters  shows latex $$i
> for the latex to dvi
> > converter.
> > Any ideas, anyone?
> 
> If you have not done so already have a look at the
> wiki page:
> 
> http://wiki.lyx.org/pmwiki.php/LyX/WindowsSetup
> 
> The step by step setup found on this wiki page is a
> good, tried and 
> tested method of getting Lyx up and running on XP.
> 
> There are issues for Windows users of Lyx with the
> configure script and 
> SED.exe for which solutions can be found on this
> page.
> 
> Hope it helps - get back to list if not
> 
> Rob S
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> 
> R D Saunders
> 




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Re: chapter heading on blank page and too much text in chapter heading

[Rich Shepard]

On Wed, 29 Dec 2004, Jeremy C. Reed wrote:
An example is from the Lyx User's Guide when printed at 6"x9":
14CHAPTER 2. LyX SETUP AND SUPPORTING APPLICATIONS

Is the best idea to fix the chapter name? Or could the header be improved
to only show the first two words for example? Any ideas?
  AFAIK, there are two options: short titles or fancy headers. I've used
both short titles and shortening the chapter or section name.
Also when a left page at end of a chapter is blank, it still have the
chapter header. It seems like just the page number would be good enough on
blank pages. What do you think?
  I think the designers of the various classes used standard or common
designs. However, if something like this is important to you, then by all
means make the changes. :-) The memoir class will give you more options and
abilities for tweaking.
  One of the strengths of LyX (also LaTeX and TeX) is that professional
typographers and page layout designers do all the heavy thinking. I just
pick a document type and concentrate on the content rather than the
appearance. I'll change "Abstract" to "Executive Summary" when warranted,
but otherwise I ignore the details.
YMMV,
Rich
--
Dr. Richard B. Shepard, President
Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc. (TM)
   Voice: 503-667-4517   Fax: 503-667-8863

chapter heading on blank page and too much text in chapter heading

[Jeremy C. Reed]

Sometimes, the header has way to much text. The page number, chapter
number, and chapter name all get jammed together and doesn't look nice.

An example is from the Lyx User's Guide when printed at 6"x9":

14CHAPTER 2. LyX SETUP AND SUPPORTING APPLICATIONS

The page number is right next to the CHAPTER.

Is the best idea to fix the chapter name? Or could the header be improved
to only show the first two words for example? Any ideas?

Also when a left page at end of a chapter is blank, it still have the
chapter header. It seems like just the page number would be good enough on
blank pages. What do you think?

I am using LyX 1.3.4. (Now I think I should try newer or CVS version
before posting) The document class is book and the page style is
headings.

 Jeremy C. Reed

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Re: 1.3.3 on XP - no output

[Paul A. Rubin]

Dave Morgan wrote:
Hi all,
I've just installed the windows port for lyx. I can't view or export output in
dvi,  ps, pdf. View > DVI gives me an empty tex file. When I build the tex file
manually or with TeXniC everything is fine so I presume my miktex is working as
it should.
Multiple runs of Edit > Reconfigure don't help.
Edit > Preferences > Converters  shows latex $$i for the latex to dvi
converter.
Any ideas, anyone?
Thanks,
dave
Edit > Preferences > File Formats > DVI has a viewer (probably yap) set?
Does Help > LaTeX Configuration show all the necessary stuff being 
found?  (Notably, in section 1, does it show a version of LaTeX itself?)

If you View > DVI and then View > LaTeX Logfile, does the logfile 
indicate anything going wrong, or does it look like a successful run of 
latex.exe took place?

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Re: 1.3.3 on XP - no output

[Rob S]

Dave,

I've just installed the windows port for lyx. I can't view or export output in
dvi,  ps, pdf. View > DVI gives me an empty tex file. When I build the tex file
manually or with TeXniC everything is fine so I presume my miktex is working as
it should.
Multiple runs of Edit > Reconfigure don't help.
Edit > Preferences > Converters  shows latex $$i for the latex to dvi
converter.
Any ideas, anyone?
If you have not done so already have a look at the wiki page:
http://wiki.lyx.org/pmwiki.php/LyX/WindowsSetup
The step by step setup found on this wiki page is a good, tried and 
tested method of getting Lyx up and running on XP.

There are issues for Windows users of Lyx with the configure script and 
SED.exe for which solutions can be found on this page.

Hope it helps - get back to list if not
Rob S

--
R D Saunders

Re: 1.3.3 on XP - no output

[Paul Smith]

On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 01:59:08 -0500, Dave Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've just installed the windows port for lyx. I can't view or export output in
> dvi,  ps, pdf. View > DVI gives me an empty tex file. When I build the tex 
> file
> manually or with TeXniC everything is fine so I presume my miktex is working 
> as
> it should.
> Multiple runs of Edit > Reconfigure don't help.
> Edit > Preferences > Converters  shows latex $$i for the latex to dvi
> converter.
> Any ideas, anyone?

Have you installed MikTeX, Dave?

Paul