Re: unnumbered footnote

[Herbert Voss]

Ben Hourigan wrote:
I tried this code in my document, both in the preamble and after 
\begin{document} of the  (but not at the same time). It's causing me 
problems.
write into the preamble
\usepackage[flushmargin]{footmisc}
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Herbert

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http://PSTricks.de/
ftp://ftp.dante.de/tex-archive/info/math/voss/Voss-Mathmode.pdf
http://www.dante.de/faq/de-tex-faq/
http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?introduction=yes

Re: unnumbered footnote

[Ben Hourigan]

Thanks Jürgen,
I tried this code in my document, both in the preamble and after 
\begin{document} of the  (but not at the same time). It's causing me 
problems.

Export using pdflatex now produces corrupt PDFs that Preview.app cannot 
read.

Export using dvipdfm produces PDFs that only include the pages before 
where \unmarkfootnote is used.

I'm using version 1.3.5 for OS X, and and tetex 3.0-1 installed by Fink.
What's happening here?
Ben Hourigan, B.A. (Hons) (Melb.)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   
http://benhourigan.com
On 3 Mar 2005, at 18:40, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:
Ben Hourigan wrote:
How can I use lyx to produce an unnumbered footnote?
\makeatletter
\newcommand\unmarkfootnote[1]{%
  \begingroup
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
\footnotetext{#1}%
  \endgroup}
\makeatother
If you do not need numbered footnotes at all, you can additionally do
\let\oldfootnote\footnote
\renewcommand\footnote{\unmarkfootnote}
and use LyX's footnote inset.
I've searched the web for LaTeX2e solutions, but nothing I've tried 
has
worked.
I have found several solutions in the archive of comp.text.tex, using 
the
keywords "footnote unnumbered"

Jürgen

Re: Setting the version of PDF from LyX

[Uwe Stöhr]

Jane McKean wrote:
When I generate my PDFs using View > PDF(pdflatex), I get the following
warning during the generation:
Error: PDF version 1.5 -- xpdf supports version 1.4 (continuing anyway)
Is there some mechanism for setting the PDF version from within LyX, so
that it would generate PDF version 1.4?
No it isn't. The pdf-version depends on the pdflatex-version, because 
pdflatex uses internally xpdf.
The error occurs when you use external pdf's (in pdf 1.5 format) in your 
document. Possibly you inserted a pdf image.
To get rid of this error, reduce the pdf version using a pdf editor 
(e.g. Acrobat) or update pdflatex.
xpdf version 3 supports pdf 1.5. And this version is used in pdflatex 
since version 1.2x. The new teTeX 3 comes with pdflatex 1.21a.

regards Uwe

Setting the version of PDF from LyX

[Jane McKean]

Hi there:

When I generate my PDFs using View > PDF(pdflatex), I get the following
warning during the generation:

Error: PDF version 1.5 -- xpdf supports version 1.4 (continuing anyway)
Error: PDF version 1.5 -- xpdf supports version 1.4 (continuing anyway)
Error: PDF version 1.5 -- xpdf supports version 1.4 (continuing anyway)
Error: PDF version 1.5 -- xpdf supports version 1.4 (continuing anyway)
Error: PDF version 1.5 -- xpdf supports version 1.4 (continuing anyway)

Is there some mechanism for setting the PDF version from within LyX, so
that it would generate PDF version 1.4?

Thanks in advance for your help,
--jane

-- 
Jane McKean
Technical Documentation
PathScale, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Details:
Linux, Fedora Core 3

LyX 1.3.5 of Wed. Oct. 6, 2004
(with change bar patch installed)

Re: top level section numbers needed in format X.0

[Todd Denniston]

"Paul A. Rubin" wrote:
> 
> Todd Denniston wrote:
> 
> > Hello,

> > what I need is (I am required to use it, I do not like it though as it adds
> > confusion by making top levels look like subsections):
> > 1.0first top level section
> > 1.1first subsection
> > 1.1.1first subsubsection
> > 2.0second top level section

> Try adding this to the preamble:
> 
> \def\thesection{\arabic{section}.0}
> \def\thesubsection{\arabic{section}.\arabic{subsection}}
> \def\thesubsubsection{\arabic{section}.\arabic{subsection}.\arabic{subsubsection}}
> 
> -- Paul

Simple and Effective.

Thanks, and if we ever meet, remind me I owe you a few beers.
-- 
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) 
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter

Re: top level section numbers needed in format X.0

[Paul A. Rubin]

Todd Denniston wrote:
Hello,
I am using the article class for my document.
LyX/LaTeX outputs section numbering as:
1first top level section
1.1first subsection
1.1.1first subsubsection
2second top level section
what I need is (I am required to use it, I do not like it though as it adds
confusion by making top levels look like subsections):
1.0first top level section
1.1first subsection
1.1.1first subsubsection
2.0second top level section
I found in a TeX FAQ{1}
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  \csname the#1\endcsname.0\quad
}
which gives me
1.0first top level section
1.1.0first subsection
1.1.1.0first subsubsection
2.0second top level section
I have tried 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]@section}[1]{%
  \csname the#1\endcsname.0\quad
}
which fails because [EMAIL PROTECTED]@section is not defined???

%the following one does nothing to my output.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]@section}[1]{%
  \csname the#1\endcsname.\quad
}
I can't figure out (this bit of LaTeX is truly beyond me) why putting the
\let... bit of code from the FAQ{1} in my document gives at least one error
for every section+subsection+subsubsection I have.
Can someone here help me get the incantation correct please?
Or if you know of a convincing bit of documentation indicating doing the
toplevel sections as X.0 is bad (makes you look like an idiot)
psychologically/professionally, please point it out so I can use it to
request a change to the standard I have to follow.
Thanks.
{1} http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=seccntfmt
Try adding this to the preamble:
\def\thesection{\arabic{section}.0}
\def\thesubsection{\arabic{section}.\arabic{subsection}}
\def\thesubsubsection{\arabic{section}.\arabic{subsection}.\arabic{subsubsection}}
-- Paul

Re: Installation of TeX4ht

[Paul Smith]

On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 19:28:09 +0100, Charles de Miramon
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Thanks, Charles. I have searched for a Mandrake rpm, but no luck.
> > Where can I find it? The following address does not mention the
> > Mandrake distribution:
> >
> > http://www.cse.ohio-state.edu/~gurari/TeX4ht/mn21.html
> >
> Sorry my mistake, Mandrake package does not seem to exist. I guess you could
> take the Fedora src.rpm and rebuild it on your Mandrake box and then
> install it.

Your guess was successful. Thanks.

Paul

Re: Installation of TeX4ht

[Charles de Miramon]

Paul Smith wrote:
> 
> Thanks, Charles. I have searched for a Mandrake rpm, but no luck.
> Where can I find it? The following address does not mention the
> Mandrake distribution:
> 
> http://www.cse.ohio-state.edu/~gurari/TeX4ht/mn21.html
> 
> Paul
Sorry my mistake, Mandrake package does not seem to exist. I guess you could
take the Fedora src.rpm and rebuild it on your Mandrake box and then
install it. I use mostly Debian so I may be wrong. 

Cheers,
Charles
-- 
http://www.kde-france.org

top level section numbers needed in format X.0

[Todd Denniston]

Hello,
I am using the article class for my document.
LyX/LaTeX outputs section numbering as:
1first top level section
1.1first subsection
1.1.1first subsubsection
2second top level section

what I need is (I am required to use it, I do not like it though as it adds
confusion by making top levels look like subsections):
1.0first top level section
1.1first subsection
1.1.1first subsubsection
2.0second top level section

I found in a TeX FAQ{1}
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  \csname the#1\endcsname.0\quad
}

which gives me
1.0first top level section
1.1.0first subsection
1.1.1.0first subsubsection
2.0second top level section

I have tried 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]@section}[1]{%
  \csname the#1\endcsname.0\quad
}
which fails because [EMAIL PROTECTED]@section is not defined???

%the following one does nothing to my output.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]@section}[1]{%
  \csname the#1\endcsname.\quad
}

I can't figure out (this bit of LaTeX is truly beyond me) why putting the
\let... bit of code from the FAQ{1} in my document gives at least one error
for every section+subsection+subsubsection I have.

Can someone here help me get the incantation correct please?
Or if you know of a convincing bit of documentation indicating doing the
toplevel sections as X.0 is bad (makes you look like an idiot)
psychologically/professionally, please point it out so I can use it to
request a change to the standard I have to follow.

Thanks.

{1} http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=seccntfmt
-- 
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) 
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter

from lyx to html

[Daniele Favara]

actually i've added just the IEEEtran.cls ... and i would be able to convert 
docbook_article.lyx to html  i feel i need a cls to add 
in /usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/lyx as i made for IEEE.

where can i find it?

i 'm also trying to convert to html using linuxdoc_article.lyx and it 
works ... but i can't see the pictures included ... how can i get it?

thanks
-- 
DF

Re: [OT] Registerhaltigkeit - English term?

[Herbert Voss]

Charles de Miramon wrote:
Is it possible to make the vertical space of a header (margin before header
+ header + margin after header) a multiple of the basic line vertical space
to keep on the grid ? 

I've just read in the LaTeX Companion that there is a "bottom" option in the
footmisc package used in combination of \raggedbottom to align the
footnotes from the bottom of the page. Id est to enlarge or diminish the
space between the end of the text and the footnotes for each page.
What look complex in the grid-based composition is tables and figures. To
keep yourself on the grid, you will have to fiddle manually with extra
margins to make their vertical size a multiple of the basic line height. I
don't know if there is a way in LaTeX to do it auto-magically.
forget it, it is not possible in general, only in some
cases ... no titles, no tables, no figures, ...
Herbert
--
http://TeXnik.de/
http://PSTricks.de/
ftp://ftp.dante.de/tex-archive/info/math/voss/Voss-Mathmode.pdf
http://www.dante.de/faq/de-tex-faq/
http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?introduction=yes

Re: selling lyx part 2

[chr]

On Fri, 4 Mar 2005, Martin A. Hansen wrote:

> i think the examples are very illustrative on the issues of line-based
> vs paragraph-based layout and orphans. i would love to see an example of
> lyx' superior way of placing inserted graphics, tables, etc.
> 
> jürgens example (great job!) should be put in the wiki straight away.
> moreover

Well, just do it then :-)

/Christian

PS. As for uploading files, have a look at 

http://wiki.lyx.org/Site/AboutUploading

same password as for editing, i.e. "LyX"

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr

Re: Installation of TeX4ht

[Paul Smith]

On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 16:13:36 +0100, Charles de Miramon
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Is there a less labyrinthic way of installing TeX4ht than the following:
> >
> > http://www.cse.ohio-state.edu/~gurari/TeX4ht/mn-unix.html
> 
> There are binary packages for Debian and Mandrake (and maybe for other rpm
> based distributions). The Debian Sid package has just been upgraded (it was
> very obsolete).

Thanks, Charles. I have searched for a Mandrake rpm, but no luck.
Where can I find it? The following address does not mention the
Mandrake distribution:

http://www.cse.ohio-state.edu/~gurari/TeX4ht/mn21.html

Paul

[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Help on installing lyx-1.3.5]

[lyx]

Please reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Mate
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Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2005 16:12:20 -0600
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Junjie Sun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Help on installing lyx-1.3.5
In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hi!

Just a silly question. I download lyx-1.3.5.tar.gz and unzipped it into my 
local drive, but don't
know how to open it (there is no executable files in the directory). Do I 
need to install or configure something?

Thanks!

Junjie


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Re: Seeking Resource Recommendations

[William F. Adams]

On Mar 4, 2005, at 9:58 AM, Rich Shepard wrote:
  What I would really appreciate is recommendations for references on
creating/modifying document classes. There is an appendix in "Guide to 
LaTeX,
Fourth Edition", but it has no discussion of several commands (such as
\makeatletter, \makeother) I've seen used. I know we have a great 
collection
of TeXperts here and they can suggest things for me to read so I can 
modify
this form and use it as a template for our data collection needs.
Posted this recently to the Texhax list:
 - there's a lot of documentation already available, and one should 
read it first. In particular your question seems to indicate you 
missed, ``LaTeX2e for class and package  writers'' which should be 
available in your tex distribution and also from 
http://www.latex-project.org/guides/clsguide.pdf

In general, there's a lot at http://www.latex-project.org/guides/ which 
you should read if you've not already.

 suggestion to read TUGboat esp. articles on Latex3
Many packages on CTAN have excellent commented code (the .dtx format 
Karl referred to) and should be reviewed  --- there are a couple 
of ``toolkit'' macro packages which may be of use to you regardless.

For makeatletter, you should probably read source2e.tex / .pdf for 
background, and _The TeXbook_ or _TeX for the Impatient_ --- the latter 
two are freely available on-line (though the TeXbook is in source form 
and may not be typeset).

Links to those here:
http://members.aol.com/willadams/books-e-tex.html
as well as some other stuff you may or may not find of use.
William
--
William Adams, publishing specialist
voice - 717-731-6707 | Fax - 717-731-6708
www.atlis.com

Re: Installation of TeX4ht

[Charles de Miramon]

Paul Smith wrote:

> Dear All
> 
> Is there a less labyrinthic way of installing TeX4ht than the following:
> 
> http://www.cse.ohio-state.edu/~gurari/TeX4ht/mn-unix.html
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> Paul

There are binary packages for Debian and Mandrake (and maybe for other rpm
based distributions). The Debian Sid package has just been upgraded (it was
very obsolete).

Check also latex2rtf, it is faster and works well if you don't use BibTeX.
Cheers,
Charles
-- 
http://www.kde-france.org

Re: selling lyx part 2

[Martin A. Hansen]

i think the examples are very illustrative on the issues of line-based
vs paragraph-based layout and orphans. i would love to see an example of
lyx' superior way of placing inserted graphics, tables, etc.

jürgens example (great job!) should be put in the wiki straight away.
moreover, i suggest taking some screenshots of selected places in the
examples where the differences are most clear - the screenshots should
be cropped to fit nicely in a presentation.



best regards


martin




On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 04:04:48PM +0100, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:
> Martin A. Hansen wrote:
> > can someone supply screenshots showing the differences of a given layout
> > in word and in lyx. i think it would be very nice to draw peoples
> > attention to small examples where the typesetting differences are
> > clear:
> >
> > 1. line-based vs paragraph-based layout
> >
> > 2. floats
> >
> > 3. orphans
> 
> I tried to create an example with LyX and Word, both showing a layout that 
> has 
> been tweaked quite a bit, using the same font (Palatino) and also mostly the 
> same settings. I tried to make the Word thing as good as possible, otherwise 
> the comparision would not be fair.
> 
> http://wiki.lyx.org/uploads/Examples/example-lyx.pdf
> http://wiki.lyx.org/uploads/Examples/example-word.pdf
> 
> IMO, although the word document might be considered "o.k." at first sight, 
> that the LyX variant looks better. Why? The page "harmony" is better (due to 
> LaTeX page breaking algorithm), the interword spacing is better in general, 
> page breaking is more intelligent (two orphans in the word file), pdflatex's 
> "font expansion" feature is being used (i.e., the fonts are being 
> expanded/decreased insignificantly in some line to get a better line 
> breaking), and finally: character protuding, i.e., the lines with hyphenation 
> dashes are slightly shifted toward the margin, thus giving the impression of 
> a more "harmonic" margin; actually, LyX did less hyphenations, which might be 
> a result of the paragraph based line breaking algorithm. Then, LyX is doing a 
> better job with different spacings (we have a thin space at "e.g.", normal 
> interword spacing, and a larger space after punctuations (actually, this is 
> also possible with word, but it is seldomly used). And so on.
> 
> Note also that the effort to produce such a layout in Word has been 
> significantly higher than in LyX. And I think the real hassle begins when the 
> document has >100 pages.
> 
> Jürgen

Seeking Resource Recommendations

[Rich Shepard]

  This request is for LaTeX help and is not LyX specific.
  I need to create (well, modify really) a LaTeX form so that we can use it
to create custom OMR (Optical Mark Reader) forms for data entry by scanning.
A helpful professor at the Univ. of Sydney sent me the grade entry form they
use so that I can modify it.
  What I would really appreciate is recommendations for references on
creating/modifying document classes. There is an appendix in "Guide to LaTeX,
Fourth Edition", but it has no discussion of several commands (such as
\makeatletter, \makeother) I've seen used. I know we have a great collection
of TeXperts here and they can suggest things for me to read so I can modify
this form and use it as a template for our data collection needs.
Thanks in advance,
Rich
--
Dr. Richard B. Shepard, President
Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc. (TM)
   Voice: 503-667-4517   Fax: 503-667-8863

Re: selling lyx part 2

[Juergen Spitzmueller]

Martin A. Hansen wrote:
> can someone supply screenshots showing the differences of a given layout
> in word and in lyx. i think it would be very nice to draw peoples
> attention to small examples where the typesetting differences are
> clear:
>
> 1. line-based vs paragraph-based layout
>
> 2. floats
>
> 3. orphans

I tried to create an example with LyX and Word, both showing a layout that has 
been tweaked quite a bit, using the same font (Palatino) and also mostly the 
same settings. I tried to make the Word thing as good as possible, otherwise 
the comparision would not be fair.

http://wiki.lyx.org/uploads/Examples/example-lyx.pdf
http://wiki.lyx.org/uploads/Examples/example-word.pdf

IMO, although the word document might be considered "o.k." at first sight, 
that the LyX variant looks better. Why? The page "harmony" is better (due to 
LaTeX page breaking algorithm), the interword spacing is better in general, 
page breaking is more intelligent (two orphans in the word file), pdflatex's 
"font expansion" feature is being used (i.e., the fonts are being 
expanded/decreased insignificantly in some line to get a better line 
breaking), and finally: character protuding, i.e., the lines with hyphenation 
dashes are slightly shifted toward the margin, thus giving the impression of 
a more "harmonic" margin; actually, LyX did less hyphenations, which might be 
a result of the paragraph based line breaking algorithm. Then, LyX is doing a 
better job with different spacings (we have a thin space at "e.g.", normal 
interword spacing, and a larger space after punctuations (actually, this is 
also possible with word, but it is seldomly used). And so on.

Note also that the effort to produce such a layout in Word has been 
significantly higher than in LyX. And I think the real hassle begins when the 
document has >100 pages.

Jürgen

Re: possible strategies for dealing w/ publishers (was Re: selling lyx part 2)

[Juergen Spitzmueller]

William F. Adams wrote:
> > For books: Big publishers (i.e. big UP presses) behave as journals:
> > they want word files and will re-typeset everything. (Actually some p.
> > houses will retype everything from paper...). Smaller publishing
> > houses and/or imprints will want a camera-ready manuscript and assume
> > you will use Word and provide instructions accordingly (i.e. "11pt for
> > the body text," "skip two lines before a section heading", etc.). You
> > must become good at _LaTeX_ to produce the camera-ready manuscripts
> > they want. In fact, you'll probably sleep with the LaTeX companion, as
> > I have been doing for the last two months...
> > In short: major hassle.
>
> You just haven't found the right publisher yet.

Well, the right publisher is the publisher that has a good reputation in your 
subject. All big publishers I know (for my subject, i.e. German linguistics) 
want pdf files, ready for printing (because they do not want to/cannot bear 
the costs for a typesetter). This means that I can use LyX for writing books, 
which is certainly a good thing. OTOH, the stylesheets are often very much 
oriented on word "standards", and so I am often forced to mess up the good 
LaTeX layout in favour of emulated bad typography.

Jürgen   

Re: What to teach first: LyX or LaTeX ?

[chr]

On Wed, 2 Mar 2005, Bo Peng wrote:

> On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 18:03:54 -0600, Bo Peng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Would it make sense to link to this guide from the wiki? For instance from
> > >
> > > http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/Documentation
> > >
> > > under the section "External documentation". (Alternatively we oculd put a
> > > copy of the guide on the wiki itself).
> > 
> 
> I have added links to http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/KeyboardShortcuts and
> http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/Documentation . ( I do not know how to upload
> attachments, I guess links should work just fine.)

I've uploaded your tutorial to the wiki, see here:
http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/Tutorials
(and please correct any errors I made in the text:-)

I also uploaded your reference card etc to 
http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/KeyboardShortcuts

/Christian

PS. As for uploading files to the wiki, see
http://wiki.lyx.org/Site/AboutUploading

I think it's easiest to first edit a page, e.g. LyX/Tutorials and there 
add a markup such as this:

Attach:/LyX/tutorials/bpeng/lyxguide.pdf

Then after I've saved the wiki page, there will be a question mark next to 
the text you just added. It looks like this:

Attach:/LyX/tutorials/bpeng/lyxguide.pdf?

Just click on that question mark to go to the upload page, with the 
destination already properly entered.

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr

Wiki page for LyX Live CDs

[chr]

On Fri, 4 Mar 2005, G. Milde wrote:

> On  2.03.05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > On Wed, 2 Mar 2005, G. Milde wrote:
> > 
> > > > Is that feasable?
> > > 
> > > Only with a very well-meaning boss. For a more cautious one who refuses to
> > > let you install stuff on his/her computer, you could try with the Knoppix
> > > live linux CD.

I've put some stuff regarding Live CDs here:

http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/LiveCDs

but it's higlhly unstructured, I have to rush now...

/Christian

PS. If people need help uploading actual Live CD images to the wiki, 
contact me privately and I'll see what we can do. 700 MB is too much for 
the normal upload mechanisms.

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr

Re: selling lyx part 2

[chr]

On Fri, 4 Mar 2005, G. Milde wrote:

> BTW: How about a Format>Document setting "Uses class", that would allow to
>  use a given latex class with a standard layout (without the need to
>  write a *.layout file)? 
> 
>  This would need ERT for new commands, but be a quick solution
>  for classes that just provide the layout settings for a
>  specific journal, say.

Maybe you should cross-post this to the devel list? It might get missed 
otherwise -- to me it sounds like the it could be useful, but perhaps it's 
difficult to implement, or there are much better solutions? 

/C

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr

Re: Online help difficult to navigate (Re: selling lyx part 2)

[G. Milde]

On  2.03.05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Wed, 2 Mar 2005, G. Milde wrote:

> > Sorry, I was misleading. I mean the internal help (Menu Help). 
> > Not very helpfull captions (would you look for customization under "Profi
> > Tips"?) and no search-facility/index.
 
> Hmm.. no, I wouldn't look there... guess it's better in the English 
> version (I've got an entry for 'Customization' in LyX 1.3.3).

My foult, the Customization entry is in German too (Hilfe>Anpassung) in 
1.3.3, so I was just writing this from memory of old LyXes.

However, still such basic stuff as export to LaTeX, PS or HTML is hidden
under Hilfe>Profi Tipps which IMHO is a somewhat misleading translation for
Extended. 

How about "Benutzerhandbuch Teil 2" (too long), or maybe
  Manual->  Benutzerhandbuch 1
  Extended  ->  Benutzerhandbuch 2

In the long term, I would like the Documentation to bee split into
more files, so that loading becomes faster and navigating easier.
 
> I think you should bring this up on the documentation list? 
> 
>   lyx-docs@lists.lyx.org
> 
> (There's not much traffic on that list so it's not a problem to subscribe 
> to it as well).

Done so, so see my next follow-ups there. 

> As for searching/indexing, I agree that it would be helpful but I'm not 
> sure how it should be done. Thoughts?

Help Index:

- Label all headings and provide a document with just reference buttons
  (needs a "Goto reference opens files" feature).

Search:

- grep in the source and jump to the pages? 

- Provide a html version of the docs? (Maybe just on lyx.org with a
  downloadable tar.gz-archive). 
  
  + This will be automatically indexed by search machines.
   
  + The lyx wiki can easily link to the standard documentation.
  
  + People can download them for offline-reading if wanted
(Debian could offer a lyx-doc package like done for many other
packages)
  
  + This would also be helpfull if you want to have a look at both, the
help and your document at the same time. (Well, you could also open a
second LyX...)
  

Günter

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Re: selling lyx part 2

[William F. Adams]

On Mar 4, 2005, at 4:06 AM, G. Milde wrote:
I would really like a set of "with LyX" vs. "with other" examples on
http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/ProsAndCons
Maarten Sneep just posted this to the Mac OS X TeX mailing list:
http://www.nat.vu.nl/~sneep/ars/type/overview.html
William
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Re: possible strategies for dealing w/ publishers (was Re: selling lyx part 2)

[William F. Adams]

On Mar 4, 2005, at 12:47 AM, William F. Adams wrote:
They did do one book on TeX, Norman Walsh's _Making TeX work_ (and 
may've been put out that they didn't get some TeX books they wanted 
early on) but have since been said to've likened it to ``wombat sex'' 
for its obscurity. You can find MTW on sourceforge, but it really 
wants updating.
Oh yeah, they also did a pocket handbook on LaTeX in German.
William
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Re: selling lyx part 2

[G. Milde]

On  2.03.05, JORGE HERNANDO wrote:
> On Tue, 1 Mar 2005, Martin A. Hansen wrote:
 
> It should be quite useful a brief tutorial (addressed to people
> not very knowledgeable in latex) on how to adapt a layout file.

First of all, there is the Chapter on Layouts in the "Customization" Guide
Help>Customization:

  Chapter 5: Installing New Document Classes, Layouts, and Templates 

The wiki page is unfortunately still rudimentary (but has links and examples)
  http://wiki.lyx.org/Layouts/Layouts

A nice tutorial is
  http://www.troubleshooters.com/lpm/200210/200210.htm#_MakingYourOwnLayout


BTW: How about a Format>Document setting "Uses class", that would allow to
 use a given latex class with a standard layout (without the need to
 write a *.layout file)? 

 This would need ERT for new commands, but be a quick solution
 for classes that just provide the layout settings for a
 specific journal, say.
 

Günter

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Re: selling lyx part 2

[G. Milde]

On  3.03.05, Martin A. Hansen wrote:
 
> can someone supply screenshots showing the differences of a given layout
> in word and in lyx. 

Good idea, although I would opt for pdf output (as we are speaking
about the printout) instead of screenshots.

> i think it would be very nice to draw peoples attention to small
> examples where the typesetting differences are clear:
> 
> 1. line-based vs paragraph-based layout
> 
> 2. floats
> 
> 3. orphans

I would really like a set of "with LyX" vs. "with other" examples on
http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/ProsAndCons

However, I do not have word ;-(

Günter

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Re: selling lyx part 2

[G. Milde]

On  2.03.05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Wed, 2 Mar 2005, G. Milde wrote:
> 
> > > Is that feasable?
> > 
> > Only with a very well-meaning boss. For a more cautious one who refuses to
> > let you install stuff on his/her computer, you could try with the Knoppix
> > live linux CD.
> 
> Does that have LyX?  If not, does anyone know of a live CD with a working 
> LyX installation?

It was on the CD until Knoppix 3.3

The changelog says: 

V3.4-2004-05-04 (experimental)
...
- Had to remove the entire latex system (101MB) because of space reasons
...

The actual release 3.7 doesnot contain LyX in the CD version.

However, there are plenty of Knoppix-Variants containing lyx (google for
knoppix+lyx), e.g.

Quantian Scientific Linux
   http://dirk.eddelbuettel.com/quantian.html

GI-Knoppix (German Gymnasium Version)
   http://gymnasium.isernhagen.de/giknoppix/

A script to create your own version of Knoppix
   http://christophe.delord.free.fr/en/kx/ 

BTW: there is a nice tutorial (in German) for writing a thesis with LyX
from Knoppix (assuming a hisroric Knoppix release with LyX) on
   http://www.students.uni-marburg.de/~Fachs04/sw_os_lyx.html


IMHO, the lyx homepage should provide a link to Quantian.

Günter

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