Re: OT: tetex RPMs (was: Re: Problems installing 1.3.6-1 RPMs

[Stephen P. Harris]

- Original Message - 
From: Jean-Marc Lasgouttes [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Stephen P. Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 10:53 PM
Subject: Re: OT: tetex RPMs (was: Re: Problems installing 1.3.6-1 RPMs



Stephen == Stephen P Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


I get it: you generate your messages with the automatic insult letter
generator! Could you give me the URL please? The one I had does not
work anymore...



Unfortunately, I think it is more likely that you forgot it. 
Do as I say, not as I do. 


JMarc

PS: Cool it, please.

Re: OT: tetex RPMs (was: Re: Problems installing 1.3.6-1 RPMs

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

 Stephen == Stephen P Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Stephen Unfortunately, I think it is more likely that you forgot it.
Stephen Do as I say, not as I do.

Let's forget about it, then :)

The points that interest me in that discussion are:

- the fact that the tetex rpms might not be of very good quality on
  RH. This is not an anathema, AFAIK. Actually, I think P. Flynn knows
  more about (La)TeX that anyone else I know on this list (Herbert
  Voss excepted, maybe; I am going to piss of the other TeXnicians
  I forgot...), and his thoughts about this are appreciated.

- we should try to build LyX in a way that allows for changing TeX
  distributions as easily as possible. In particularly, people who
  want to use the TeX Collection distribution should be able to do so
  with minimal hassle.

- the code that searches for a latex executable was written by me at a
  time where LaTeX 2.09 was not uncommon. I can accept the fact that
  it is now completely inadequate.

- the fact that configure is run at install time (and thus as root as
  Peter points out) is indeed a problem. It causes griefs to the
  windows installer too. I'll try to remove this for 1.4.1.

Discussions about moral censure and ethics are an unneeded distraction
in this context.

JMarc

Cannot get docbook on a mac

[David Rolfe]

Hi everyone,

I am new to this forum, but have used lyx a little bit over a longish period of 
time. I now run on OS X tiger and installed the Tex bundle with fink (which 
appears to include a bunch of sgml/docbook stuff) and the Aqua version of lxy 
and everything seems to be working ... except that all the dockbook and sgml 
stuff is marked as unavailable. In addition none of the templates work. They 
all complain about a missing Tex class. So... I need some help here. What 
pieces am I missing?

Thanks, Dave

Re: Cannot get docbook on a mac

[Mike Meyer]

In [EMAIL PROTECTED], David Rolfe [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed:
 I am new to this forum, but have used lyx a little bit over a
 longish period of time. I now run on OS X tiger and installed the
 Tex bundle with fink (which appears to include a bunch of
 sgml/docbook stuff) and the Aqua version of lxy and everything seems
 to be working ... except that all the dockbook and sgml stuff is
 marked as unavailable. In addition none of the templates work. They
 all complain about a missing Tex class. So... I need some help
 here. What pieces am I missing?

the configure script walks your $PATH looking for sgmltools and/or
db2dvi to decide whether or not to configure docbook support. Fink
probably put those in /sw/bin.

If that's the case, you need to add /sw/bin the path used by LyX. On
tiger (sorry, I'm a Mac newbie and haven't dealt with anything else)
you edit ~/.MacOSX/environment.plist. There's a GUI plist editor
available, but the file is just XML text, so you can use your favorite
text editor on it as well.

mike
-- 
Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://www.mired.org/consulting.html
Independent Network/Unix/Perforce consultant, email for more information.

Re: Cannot get docbook on a mac

[Bennett Helm]

On Sep 13, 2005, at 10:03 AM, Mike Meyer wrote:


the configure script walks your $PATH looking for sgmltools and/or
db2dvi to decide whether or not to configure docbook support. Fink
probably put those in /sw/bin.

If that's the case, you need to add /sw/bin the path used by LyX. On
tiger (sorry, I'm a Mac newbie and haven't dealt with anything else)
you edit ~/.MacOSX/environment.plist. There's a GUI plist editor
available, but the file is just XML text, so you can use your favorite
text editor on it as well.


Actually, if all you want is to add /sw/bin to the path that LyX  
uses, you should do it from within LyX itself: LyX  Preferences   
PATH  PATH Prefix. (For LyX/Mac-1.3.6, the default settings already  
have /sw/bin there.) If you add something to the PATH setting in  
~/.MacOSX/environment.plist, that will apply to *every* OS X  
application, which is probably overkill and potentially a security risk.


I'm not that familiar with fink or at all familiar with docbook, so I  
can't be more helpful.


Bennett

Re: Cannot get docbook on a mac

[Mike Meyer]

[Apologies to those of you who are seeing this twice.]


In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Bennett Helm [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed:
 On Sep 13, 2005, at 10:03 AM, Mike Meyer wrote:
  the configure script walks your $PATH looking for sgmltools and/or
  db2dvi to decide whether or not to configure docbook support. Fink
  probably put those in /sw/bin.
  If that's the case, you need to add /sw/bin the path used by LyX. On
  tiger (sorry, I'm a Mac newbie and haven't dealt with anything else)
  you edit ~/.MacOSX/environment.plist. There's a GUI plist editor
  available, but the file is just XML text, so you can use your favorite
  text editor on it as well.
 Actually, if all you want is to add /sw/bin to the path that LyX  
 uses, you should do it from within LyX itself: LyX  Preferences   
 PATH  PATH Prefix. (For LyX/Mac-1.3.6, the default settings already  
 have /sw/bin there.) If you add something to the PATH setting in  
 ~/.MacOSX/environment.plist, that will apply to *every* OS X  
 application, which is probably overkill and potentially a security risk.

Whether or not it's overkill depends on how many applications you have
that want to use programs from fink (or, in my case, darwinports). I
have a couple, so doing things this way is easier for me.

I found this method while trying to figure out why LyX wasn't finding
my darwinports software. That I didn't find the LyX  Preferences 
PATH  PATH Prefix methods suggests a doc bug. This appears to be a
Mac issue - I don't find the PATH entries in preferences in 1.3.5 on
my Unix box. Might just be my not having taken time to read the docs
properly, though.

mike

-- 
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Independent Network/Unix/Perforce consultant, email for more information.

Command Control

[Mike Meyer]

I use LyX on both Unix and the Mac. The Mac version does a marvelous
job of looking like a Mac application (at least to my
not-very-mac-enabled-eyes), but it does so by mapping the control key
bindings to the command key. This means I can't use the non-Mac
bindings - especially the emacs bindings - an get the behavior I
want. This means it's a pain for me to move back and forth between the
two.

Can someone suggest a way to make the control key in MacLyX be the
control key, instead of the command key?

Thanks,
mike
-- 
Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://www.mired.org/consulting.html
Independent Network/Unix/Perforce consultant, email for more information.

Re: tetex RPMs (was: Re: Problems installing 1.3.6-1 RPMs)

[Stephen Harris]

Stephen == Stephen P Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


Stephen Unfortunately, I think it is more likely that you forgot it.
Stephen Do as I say, not as I do.

Let's forget about it, then :)

The points that interest me in that discussion are:

- the fact that the tetex rpms might not be of very good quality on
 RH. This is not an anathema, AFAIK. Actually, I think P. Flynn knows
 more about (La)TeX that anyone else I know on this list (Herbert
 Voss excepted, maybe; I am going to piss of the other TeXnicians
 I forgot...), and his thoughts about this are appreciated.

SH: My credo is principles before personalities. P. Flynn may be
an expert at (La)TeX but this required a different skill set. He
didn't know about yum, /.lyx/preferences nor apparently about FC4 
and rpms or Georg Baum wouldn't have posted explaining rpms to him.


- we should try to build LyX in a way that allows for changing TeX
 distributions as easily as possible. In particularly, people who
 want to use the TeX Collection distribution should be able to do so
 with minimal hassle.

SH: I certainly agree with this. I think FC4 might install its version
of tetex by default. I had previously gotten Lyx1.3.6 to work with the
FC4 provided tetex files. So it took me about 15 minutes to erase lyx
and tetex +dependencies in preparation to installing the Tex 2004 dvd.
I think one can do a custom install of FC4 and uncheck the tetex box(es)
and avoid that chore.

- the code that searches for a latex executable was written by me at a
 time where LaTeX 2.09 was not uncommon. I can accept the fact that
 it is now completely inadequate.

SH: One needs to remember to put PATH=/usr/TeX/bin/i386-linux:$PATH
export PATH into .bashrc_profile as detailed in the TeX 2004 User Guide.

Then installing LyX1.3.6 and Qt with the rpms was fairly uneventful. I 
had left the xft fonts and aiksaurus installed. So LyX fired up and looked

OK. And the Tex Information displayed a lot of stuff. But when I tried to
load currency.lyx, I got an error message about missing article.cls So I
tried Reconfigure and that restored all the viewers (which were missing).

I rebooted and Reconfigure hadn't stuck. Missing article.cls again. I
checked the preferences file and it was empty except for the screen  fonts
section. From Windows I hunched this was a path problem. So I checked Edit
Preferences--Paths and it was empty. Not even ImageMagick which is installed.

So then I used Angus Leeming's time honored recipe of fiddling with Path_prefix
echo $PATH which I cut and pasted into Path prefix(saved). Also put /usr/bin/xpdf 
in file formats to check on Paul Johnson's complaint (it worked ok). At any rate,

this doesn't work like my Windows experience would lead me to expect. Now the
changes I made showed up in the preferences file under Misc = the Linux Path,
and I have one entry under Format section: \viewer pdf3 /usr/bin/xpdf 


- the fact that configure is run at install time (and thus as root as
 Peter points out) is indeed a problem. It causes griefs to the
 windows installer too. I'll try to remove this for 1.4.1.

Discussions about moral censure and ethics are an unneeded distraction
in this context.

JMarc

I agree. That is why I resented them being introduced (kludge and 
the suggestion that RH deliberately sabotaged TeX cd releases by PF) 
and then I was chastised for expressing my disapproval. Ridiculing 
that popinjay was a mild response. 


From FC4,

Stephen

Re: Problems installing 1.3.6-1 RPMs

[Rex Dieter]

Stephen P. Harris wrote:

- Original Message - From: Peter Flynn 



Is anyone out there using LyX on FC4?



I am using LyX on FC4 with no problem. The way I installed it was:

1. copied my own .lyx directory into my home directory;
2. yum install lyx.



I just finished installing LyX 1.3.6 on FC4. I used these files.

latex-xft-fonts-0.1-2.1.fc3.rf.noarch.rpm
libaiksaurus-1.2_0-1.2.1-2mdk.i586.rpm
lyx-1.3.6-1.li.noarch.rpm
lyx-qt-1.3.6-1.li.fc4.i586.rpm


I didn't follow the whole thread, but if it hadn't already been pointed 
out, you used the wrong rpms.  lyx and mathml-fonts are both in Fedora 
Extras.  Either manually download them, or simply enable the Fedora 
Extras repo in /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-extras.repo, and use:

yum install lyx
as originally suggested.

-- Rex

Re: OT: tetex RPMs

[Rex Dieter]

Stephen P. Harris wrote:


- Original Message - From: Angus Leeming 



Stephen P. Harris wrote:


Peter Flynn is an arrogant, ignorant blowhard. I think my expression
of dissatisfaction was rather moderate. I think your moral intervention
was a day late and a dollar short and not directed at the instigator.



My apologies. I hadn't realised I was expected to read all your mails as
they arrived.



You are not when you act as a contributor to the mailing list. However,
Angus wrote:  Stephen, cool it please.


That statement is easily seen as one of moral censure. 

...

SH: That means you think I have said something inappropriate.


Sorry you took offense, but I simply read Angus' comment as meaning 
Don't feed the trolls.


-- Rex

Re: Problems installing 1.3.6-1 RPMs

[Rex Dieter]

Peter Flynn wrote:

Paul Smith wrote:


2. yum install lyx.


Aaaaggghhh! *Never*, never, never do this if you already have TeX. 
Especially not if you have already carefully removed the outdated mess 
that is the RH kludge of tetex, and replaced it with the real tetex from 
the TeX Collection DVD.


Bah, IMO, bad advice, and a borderline troll to boot.

We have many happy users of the stock lyx/tetex packages here in our 
(Math) department (though i've had to rebuild a customized tetex to 
default to US/Letter paper instead of A4).


-- Rex

Re: Command Control

[Bennett Helm]

On Sep 13, 2005, at 5:31 PM, Mike Meyer wrote:


I use LyX on both Unix and the Mac. The Mac version does a marvelous
job of looking like a Mac application (at least to my
not-very-mac-enabled-eyes), but it does so by mapping the control key
bindings to the command key. This means I can't use the non-Mac
bindings - especially the emacs bindings - an get the behavior I
want. This means it's a pain for me to move back and forth between the
two.

Can someone suggest a way to make the control key in MacLyX be the
control key, instead of the command key?


I believe it's a Qt/Mac issue: only Command and Option are  
available for key bindings. (If I recall, it's possible to patch Qt  
to substitute Control for one of these, but I think it's a  
substitution rather than an addition. Can anyone correct me on this?)


Bennett

Re: Command Control

[Mike Meyer]

In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Bennett Helm [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed:
 On Sep 13, 2005, at 5:31 PM, Mike Meyer wrote:
  I use LyX on both Unix and the Mac. The Mac version does a marvelous
  job of looking like a Mac application (at least to my
  not-very-mac-enabled-eyes), but it does so by mapping the control key
  bindings to the command key. This means I can't use the non-Mac
  bindings - especially the emacs bindings - an get the behavior I
  want. This means it's a pain for me to move back and forth between the
  two.
  Can someone suggest a way to make the control key in MacLyX be the
  control key, instead of the command key?
 I believe it's a Qt/Mac issue: only Command and Option are  
 available for key bindings. (If I recall, it's possible to patch Qt  
 to substitute Control for one of these, but I think it's a  
 substitution rather than an addition. Can anyone correct me on this?)

It's definitely a substitution. If I use one of the other bindings,
Command-Key does what I expect Control-Key to do, and Control-Key does
nothing. If it had been an addition, I probably would have never
noticed.

Anyone got a pointer to the patch?

Thanks,
mike
-- 
Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://www.mired.org/consulting.html
Independent Network/Unix/Perforce consultant, email for more information.

Re: Problems installing 1.3.6-1 RPMs

[Stephen Harris]

- Original Message - 
From: Rex Dieter [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 6:31 PM
Subject: Re: Problems installing 1.3.6-1 RPMs



Stephen P. Harris wrote:

- Original Message - From: Peter Flynn 



Is anyone out there using LyX on FC4?



I am using LyX on FC4 with no problem. The way I installed it was:

1. copied my own .lyx directory into my home directory;
2. yum install lyx.



I just finished installing LyX 1.3.6 on FC4. I used these files.

latex-xft-fonts-0.1-2.1.fc3.rf.noarch.rpm
libaiksaurus-1.2_0-1.2.1-2mdk.i586.rpm
lyx-1.3.6-1.li.noarch.rpm
lyx-qt-1.3.6-1.li.fc4.i586.rpm


I didn't follow the whole thread, but if it hadn't already been pointed 
out, you used the wrong rpms.  lyx and mathml-fonts are both in Fedora 
Extras.  Either manually download them, or simply enable the Fedora 
Extras repo in /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-extras.repo, and use:

yum install lyx
as originally suggested.

-- Rex




Originally, yum installed lyx 1.3.5. Someone said this was fixed about
3 weeks ago. The OP installed the Tex Live dvd. If you use yum, it
overwrites the TL tetex installation. The OP's complaint was that RH 
rpms lagged at least a year behind the fixes in the Tex Live cd and so 
he did not want them overwritten. 


I used those rpms because they don't insist on installing tetex as a
dependency (rpms don't see non-rpms) and erasing TL tetex (2nd) 
and originally because that was all I could find. They worked just fine.
Maybe the Bakoma fonts should be in extras along with math-ml fonts? 


The default is A4. I changed it to US with texconfig --paper letter
or some syntax close to that. Apparently there is antipathy towards
the fedora tetex rpms on comp.text.tex and even if Peter Flynn is
an expert on Latex, he doesn't need to carry his agenda into the
lyx-user mailing list, IMO, especially since he did so without humor.

Water under the bridge,
Stephen

Re: OT: tetex RPMs (was: Re: Problems installing 1.3.6-1 RPMs

[Stephen P. Harris]

- Original Message - 
From: Jean-Marc Lasgouttes [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Stephen P. Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 10:53 PM
Subject: Re: OT: tetex RPMs (was: Re: Problems installing 1.3.6-1 RPMs



Stephen == Stephen P Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


I get it: you generate your messages with the automatic insult letter
generator! Could you give me the URL please? The one I had does not
work anymore...



Unfortunately, I think it is more likely that you forgot it. 
Do as I say, not as I do. 


JMarc

PS: Cool it, please.

Re: OT: tetex RPMs (was: Re: Problems installing 1.3.6-1 RPMs

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

 Stephen == Stephen P Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Stephen Unfortunately, I think it is more likely that you forgot it.
Stephen Do as I say, not as I do.

Let's forget about it, then :)

The points that interest me in that discussion are:

- the fact that the tetex rpms might not be of very good quality on
  RH. This is not an anathema, AFAIK. Actually, I think P. Flynn knows
  more about (La)TeX that anyone else I know on this list (Herbert
  Voss excepted, maybe; I am going to piss of the other TeXnicians
  I forgot...), and his thoughts about this are appreciated.

- we should try to build LyX in a way that allows for changing TeX
  distributions as easily as possible. In particularly, people who
  want to use the TeX Collection distribution should be able to do so
  with minimal hassle.

- the code that searches for a latex executable was written by me at a
  time where LaTeX 2.09 was not uncommon. I can accept the fact that
  it is now completely inadequate.

- the fact that configure is run at install time (and thus as root as
  Peter points out) is indeed a problem. It causes griefs to the
  windows installer too. I'll try to remove this for 1.4.1.

Discussions about moral censure and ethics are an unneeded distraction
in this context.

JMarc

Cannot get docbook on a mac

[David Rolfe]

Hi everyone,

I am new to this forum, but have used lyx a little bit over a longish period of 
time. I now run on OS X tiger and installed the Tex bundle with fink (which 
appears to include a bunch of sgml/docbook stuff) and the Aqua version of lxy 
and everything seems to be working ... except that all the dockbook and sgml 
stuff is marked as unavailable. In addition none of the templates work. They 
all complain about a missing Tex class. So... I need some help here. What 
pieces am I missing?

Thanks, Dave

Re: Cannot get docbook on a mac

[Mike Meyer]

In [EMAIL PROTECTED], David Rolfe [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed:
 I am new to this forum, but have used lyx a little bit over a
 longish period of time. I now run on OS X tiger and installed the
 Tex bundle with fink (which appears to include a bunch of
 sgml/docbook stuff) and the Aqua version of lxy and everything seems
 to be working ... except that all the dockbook and sgml stuff is
 marked as unavailable. In addition none of the templates work. They
 all complain about a missing Tex class. So... I need some help
 here. What pieces am I missing?

the configure script walks your $PATH looking for sgmltools and/or
db2dvi to decide whether or not to configure docbook support. Fink
probably put those in /sw/bin.

If that's the case, you need to add /sw/bin the path used by LyX. On
tiger (sorry, I'm a Mac newbie and haven't dealt with anything else)
you edit ~/.MacOSX/environment.plist. There's a GUI plist editor
available, but the file is just XML text, so you can use your favorite
text editor on it as well.

mike
-- 
Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://www.mired.org/consulting.html
Independent Network/Unix/Perforce consultant, email for more information.

Re: Cannot get docbook on a mac

[Bennett Helm]

On Sep 13, 2005, at 10:03 AM, Mike Meyer wrote:


the configure script walks your $PATH looking for sgmltools and/or
db2dvi to decide whether or not to configure docbook support. Fink
probably put those in /sw/bin.

If that's the case, you need to add /sw/bin the path used by LyX. On
tiger (sorry, I'm a Mac newbie and haven't dealt with anything else)
you edit ~/.MacOSX/environment.plist. There's a GUI plist editor
available, but the file is just XML text, so you can use your favorite
text editor on it as well.


Actually, if all you want is to add /sw/bin to the path that LyX  
uses, you should do it from within LyX itself: LyX  Preferences   
PATH  PATH Prefix. (For LyX/Mac-1.3.6, the default settings already  
have /sw/bin there.) If you add something to the PATH setting in  
~/.MacOSX/environment.plist, that will apply to *every* OS X  
application, which is probably overkill and potentially a security risk.


I'm not that familiar with fink or at all familiar with docbook, so I  
can't be more helpful.


Bennett

Re: Cannot get docbook on a mac

[Mike Meyer]

[Apologies to those of you who are seeing this twice.]


In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Bennett Helm [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed:
 On Sep 13, 2005, at 10:03 AM, Mike Meyer wrote:
  the configure script walks your $PATH looking for sgmltools and/or
  db2dvi to decide whether or not to configure docbook support. Fink
  probably put those in /sw/bin.
  If that's the case, you need to add /sw/bin the path used by LyX. On
  tiger (sorry, I'm a Mac newbie and haven't dealt with anything else)
  you edit ~/.MacOSX/environment.plist. There's a GUI plist editor
  available, but the file is just XML text, so you can use your favorite
  text editor on it as well.
 Actually, if all you want is to add /sw/bin to the path that LyX  
 uses, you should do it from within LyX itself: LyX  Preferences   
 PATH  PATH Prefix. (For LyX/Mac-1.3.6, the default settings already  
 have /sw/bin there.) If you add something to the PATH setting in  
 ~/.MacOSX/environment.plist, that will apply to *every* OS X  
 application, which is probably overkill and potentially a security risk.

Whether or not it's overkill depends on how many applications you have
that want to use programs from fink (or, in my case, darwinports). I
have a couple, so doing things this way is easier for me.

I found this method while trying to figure out why LyX wasn't finding
my darwinports software. That I didn't find the LyX  Preferences 
PATH  PATH Prefix methods suggests a doc bug. This appears to be a
Mac issue - I don't find the PATH entries in preferences in 1.3.5 on
my Unix box. Might just be my not having taken time to read the docs
properly, though.

mike

-- 
Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://www.mired.org/consulting.html
Independent Network/Unix/Perforce consultant, email for more information.

Command Control

[Mike Meyer]

I use LyX on both Unix and the Mac. The Mac version does a marvelous
job of looking like a Mac application (at least to my
not-very-mac-enabled-eyes), but it does so by mapping the control key
bindings to the command key. This means I can't use the non-Mac
bindings - especially the emacs bindings - an get the behavior I
want. This means it's a pain for me to move back and forth between the
two.

Can someone suggest a way to make the control key in MacLyX be the
control key, instead of the command key?

Thanks,
mike
-- 
Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://www.mired.org/consulting.html
Independent Network/Unix/Perforce consultant, email for more information.

Re: tetex RPMs (was: Re: Problems installing 1.3.6-1 RPMs)

[Stephen Harris]

Stephen == Stephen P Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


Stephen Unfortunately, I think it is more likely that you forgot it.
Stephen Do as I say, not as I do.

Let's forget about it, then :)

The points that interest me in that discussion are:

- the fact that the tetex rpms might not be of very good quality on
 RH. This is not an anathema, AFAIK. Actually, I think P. Flynn knows
 more about (La)TeX that anyone else I know on this list (Herbert
 Voss excepted, maybe; I am going to piss of the other TeXnicians
 I forgot...), and his thoughts about this are appreciated.

SH: My credo is principles before personalities. P. Flynn may be
an expert at (La)TeX but this required a different skill set. He
didn't know about yum, /.lyx/preferences nor apparently about FC4 
and rpms or Georg Baum wouldn't have posted explaining rpms to him.


- we should try to build LyX in a way that allows for changing TeX
 distributions as easily as possible. In particularly, people who
 want to use the TeX Collection distribution should be able to do so
 with minimal hassle.

SH: I certainly agree with this. I think FC4 might install its version
of tetex by default. I had previously gotten Lyx1.3.6 to work with the
FC4 provided tetex files. So it took me about 15 minutes to erase lyx
and tetex +dependencies in preparation to installing the Tex 2004 dvd.
I think one can do a custom install of FC4 and uncheck the tetex box(es)
and avoid that chore.

- the code that searches for a latex executable was written by me at a
 time where LaTeX 2.09 was not uncommon. I can accept the fact that
 it is now completely inadequate.

SH: One needs to remember to put PATH=/usr/TeX/bin/i386-linux:$PATH
export PATH into .bashrc_profile as detailed in the TeX 2004 User Guide.

Then installing LyX1.3.6 and Qt with the rpms was fairly uneventful. I 
had left the xft fonts and aiksaurus installed. So LyX fired up and looked

OK. And the Tex Information displayed a lot of stuff. But when I tried to
load currency.lyx, I got an error message about missing article.cls So I
tried Reconfigure and that restored all the viewers (which were missing).

I rebooted and Reconfigure hadn't stuck. Missing article.cls again. I
checked the preferences file and it was empty except for the screen  fonts
section. From Windows I hunched this was a path problem. So I checked Edit
Preferences--Paths and it was empty. Not even ImageMagick which is installed.

So then I used Angus Leeming's time honored recipe of fiddling with Path_prefix
echo $PATH which I cut and pasted into Path prefix(saved). Also put /usr/bin/xpdf 
in file formats to check on Paul Johnson's complaint (it worked ok). At any rate,

this doesn't work like my Windows experience would lead me to expect. Now the
changes I made showed up in the preferences file under Misc = the Linux Path,
and I have one entry under Format section: \viewer pdf3 /usr/bin/xpdf 


- the fact that configure is run at install time (and thus as root as
 Peter points out) is indeed a problem. It causes griefs to the
 windows installer too. I'll try to remove this for 1.4.1.

Discussions about moral censure and ethics are an unneeded distraction
in this context.

JMarc

I agree. That is why I resented them being introduced (kludge and 
the suggestion that RH deliberately sabotaged TeX cd releases by PF) 
and then I was chastised for expressing my disapproval. Ridiculing 
that popinjay was a mild response. 


From FC4,

Stephen

Re: Problems installing 1.3.6-1 RPMs

[Rex Dieter]

Stephen P. Harris wrote:

- Original Message - From: Peter Flynn 



Is anyone out there using LyX on FC4?



I am using LyX on FC4 with no problem. The way I installed it was:

1. copied my own .lyx directory into my home directory;
2. yum install lyx.



I just finished installing LyX 1.3.6 on FC4. I used these files.

latex-xft-fonts-0.1-2.1.fc3.rf.noarch.rpm
libaiksaurus-1.2_0-1.2.1-2mdk.i586.rpm
lyx-1.3.6-1.li.noarch.rpm
lyx-qt-1.3.6-1.li.fc4.i586.rpm


I didn't follow the whole thread, but if it hadn't already been pointed 
out, you used the wrong rpms.  lyx and mathml-fonts are both in Fedora 
Extras.  Either manually download them, or simply enable the Fedora 
Extras repo in /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-extras.repo, and use:

yum install lyx
as originally suggested.

-- Rex

Re: OT: tetex RPMs

[Rex Dieter]

Stephen P. Harris wrote:


- Original Message - From: Angus Leeming 



Stephen P. Harris wrote:


Peter Flynn is an arrogant, ignorant blowhard. I think my expression
of dissatisfaction was rather moderate. I think your moral intervention
was a day late and a dollar short and not directed at the instigator.



My apologies. I hadn't realised I was expected to read all your mails as
they arrived.



You are not when you act as a contributor to the mailing list. However,
Angus wrote:  Stephen, cool it please.


That statement is easily seen as one of moral censure. 

...

SH: That means you think I have said something inappropriate.


Sorry you took offense, but I simply read Angus' comment as meaning 
Don't feed the trolls.


-- Rex

Re: Problems installing 1.3.6-1 RPMs

[Rex Dieter]

Peter Flynn wrote:

Paul Smith wrote:


2. yum install lyx.


Aaaaggghhh! *Never*, never, never do this if you already have TeX. 
Especially not if you have already carefully removed the outdated mess 
that is the RH kludge of tetex, and replaced it with the real tetex from 
the TeX Collection DVD.


Bah, IMO, bad advice, and a borderline troll to boot.

We have many happy users of the stock lyx/tetex packages here in our 
(Math) department (though i've had to rebuild a customized tetex to 
default to US/Letter paper instead of A4).


-- Rex

Re: Command Control

[Bennett Helm]

On Sep 13, 2005, at 5:31 PM, Mike Meyer wrote:


I use LyX on both Unix and the Mac. The Mac version does a marvelous
job of looking like a Mac application (at least to my
not-very-mac-enabled-eyes), but it does so by mapping the control key
bindings to the command key. This means I can't use the non-Mac
bindings - especially the emacs bindings - an get the behavior I
want. This means it's a pain for me to move back and forth between the
two.

Can someone suggest a way to make the control key in MacLyX be the
control key, instead of the command key?


I believe it's a Qt/Mac issue: only Command and Option are  
available for key bindings. (If I recall, it's possible to patch Qt  
to substitute Control for one of these, but I think it's a  
substitution rather than an addition. Can anyone correct me on this?)


Bennett

Re: Command Control

[Mike Meyer]

In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Bennett Helm [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed:
 On Sep 13, 2005, at 5:31 PM, Mike Meyer wrote:
  I use LyX on both Unix and the Mac. The Mac version does a marvelous
  job of looking like a Mac application (at least to my
  not-very-mac-enabled-eyes), but it does so by mapping the control key
  bindings to the command key. This means I can't use the non-Mac
  bindings - especially the emacs bindings - an get the behavior I
  want. This means it's a pain for me to move back and forth between the
  two.
  Can someone suggest a way to make the control key in MacLyX be the
  control key, instead of the command key?
 I believe it's a Qt/Mac issue: only Command and Option are  
 available for key bindings. (If I recall, it's possible to patch Qt  
 to substitute Control for one of these, but I think it's a  
 substitution rather than an addition. Can anyone correct me on this?)

It's definitely a substitution. If I use one of the other bindings,
Command-Key does what I expect Control-Key to do, and Control-Key does
nothing. If it had been an addition, I probably would have never
noticed.

Anyone got a pointer to the patch?

Thanks,
mike
-- 
Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://www.mired.org/consulting.html
Independent Network/Unix/Perforce consultant, email for more information.

Re: Problems installing 1.3.6-1 RPMs

[Stephen Harris]

- Original Message - 
From: Rex Dieter [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 6:31 PM
Subject: Re: Problems installing 1.3.6-1 RPMs



Stephen P. Harris wrote:

- Original Message - From: Peter Flynn 



Is anyone out there using LyX on FC4?



I am using LyX on FC4 with no problem. The way I installed it was:

1. copied my own .lyx directory into my home directory;
2. yum install lyx.



I just finished installing LyX 1.3.6 on FC4. I used these files.

latex-xft-fonts-0.1-2.1.fc3.rf.noarch.rpm
libaiksaurus-1.2_0-1.2.1-2mdk.i586.rpm
lyx-1.3.6-1.li.noarch.rpm
lyx-qt-1.3.6-1.li.fc4.i586.rpm


I didn't follow the whole thread, but if it hadn't already been pointed 
out, you used the wrong rpms.  lyx and mathml-fonts are both in Fedora 
Extras.  Either manually download them, or simply enable the Fedora 
Extras repo in /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-extras.repo, and use:

yum install lyx
as originally suggested.

-- Rex




Originally, yum installed lyx 1.3.5. Someone said this was fixed about
3 weeks ago. The OP installed the Tex Live dvd. If you use yum, it
overwrites the TL tetex installation. The OP's complaint was that RH 
rpms lagged at least a year behind the fixes in the Tex Live cd and so 
he did not want them overwritten. 


I used those rpms because they don't insist on installing tetex as a
dependency (rpms don't see non-rpms) and erasing TL tetex (2nd) 
and originally because that was all I could find. They worked just fine.
Maybe the Bakoma fonts should be in extras along with math-ml fonts? 


The default is A4. I changed it to US with texconfig --paper letter
or some syntax close to that. Apparently there is antipathy towards
the fedora tetex rpms on comp.text.tex and even if Peter Flynn is
an expert on Latex, he doesn't need to carry his agenda into the
lyx-user mailing list, IMO, especially since he did so without humor.

Water under the bridge,
Stephen

Re: OT: tetex RPMs (was: Re: Problems installing 1.3.6-1 RPMs

[Stephen P. Harris]

- Original Message - 
From: "Jean-Marc Lasgouttes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Stephen P. Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: 
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 10:53 PM
Subject: Re: OT: tetex RPMs (was: Re: Problems installing 1.3.6-1 RPMs



"Stephen" == Stephen P Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:


I get it: you generate your messages with the automatic insult letter
generator! Could you give me the URL please? The one I had does not
work anymore...



Unfortunately, I think it is more likely that you forgot it. 
Do as I say, not as I do. 


JMarc

PS: Cool it, please.

Re: OT: tetex RPMs (was: Re: Problems installing 1.3.6-1 RPMs

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

> "Stephen" == Stephen P Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Stephen> Unfortunately, I think it is more likely that you forgot it.
Stephen> Do as I say, not as I do.

Let's forget about it, then :)

The points that interest me in that discussion are:

- the fact that the tetex rpms might not be of very good quality on
  RH. This is not an anathema, AFAIK. Actually, I think P. Flynn knows
  more about (La)TeX that anyone else I know on this list (Herbert
  Voss excepted, maybe; I am going to piss of the other TeXnicians
  I forgot...), and his thoughts about this are appreciated.

- we should try to build LyX in a way that allows for changing TeX
  distributions as easily as possible. In particularly, people who
  want to use the TeX Collection distribution should be able to do so
  with minimal hassle.

- the code that searches for a latex executable was written by me at a
  time where LaTeX 2.09 was not uncommon. I can accept the fact that
  it is now completely inadequate.

- the fact that configure is run at install time (and thus as root as
  Peter points out) is indeed a problem. It causes griefs to the
  windows installer too. I'll try to remove this for 1.4.1.

Discussions about moral censure and ethics are an unneeded distraction
in this context.

JMarc

Cannot get docbook on a mac

[David Rolfe]

Hi everyone,

I am new to this forum, but have used lyx a little bit over a longish period of 
time. I now run on OS X tiger and installed the Tex bundle with fink (which 
appears to include a bunch of sgml/docbook stuff) and the Aqua version of lxy 
and everything seems to be working ... except that all the dockbook and sgml 
stuff is marked as unavailable. In addition none of the templates work. They 
all complain about a missing Tex class. So... I need some help here. What 
pieces am I missing?

Thanks, Dave

Re: Cannot get docbook on a mac

[Mike Meyer]

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David Rolfe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> typed:
> I am new to this forum, but have used lyx a little bit over a
> longish period of time. I now run on OS X tiger and installed the
> Tex bundle with fink (which appears to include a bunch of
> sgml/docbook stuff) and the Aqua version of lxy and everything seems
> to be working ... except that all the dockbook and sgml stuff is
> marked as unavailable. In addition none of the templates work. They
> all complain about a missing Tex class. So... I need some help
> here. What pieces am I missing?

the configure script walks your $PATH looking for sgmltools and/or
db2dvi to decide whether or not to configure docbook support. Fink
probably put those in /sw/bin.

If that's the case, you need to add /sw/bin the path used by LyX. On
tiger (sorry, I'm a Mac newbie and haven't dealt with anything else)
you edit ~/.MacOSX/environment.plist. There's a GUI plist editor
available, but the file is just XML text, so you can use your favorite
text editor on it as well.

  http://www.mired.org/consulting.html
Independent Network/Unix/Perforce consultant, email for more information.

Re: Cannot get docbook on a mac

[Bennett Helm]

On Sep 13, 2005, at 10:03 AM, Mike Meyer wrote:


the configure script walks your $PATH looking for sgmltools and/or
db2dvi to decide whether or not to configure docbook support. Fink
probably put those in /sw/bin.

If that's the case, you need to add /sw/bin the path used by LyX. On
tiger (sorry, I'm a Mac newbie and haven't dealt with anything else)
you edit ~/.MacOSX/environment.plist. There's a GUI plist editor
available, but the file is just XML text, so you can use your favorite
text editor on it as well.


Actually, if all you want is to add /sw/bin to the path that LyX  
uses, you should do it from within LyX itself: LyX > Preferences >  
PATH > PATH Prefix. (For LyX/Mac-1.3.6, the default settings already  
have /sw/bin there.) If you add something to the PATH setting in  
~/.MacOSX/environment.plist, that will apply to *every* OS X  
application, which is probably overkill and potentially a security risk.


I'm not that familiar with fink or at all familiar with docbook, so I  
can't be more helpful.


Bennett

Re: Cannot get docbook on a mac

[Mike Meyer]

[Apologies to those of you who are seeing this twice.]


In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Bennett Helm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> typed:
> On Sep 13, 2005, at 10:03 AM, Mike Meyer wrote:
> > the configure script walks your $PATH looking for sgmltools and/or
> > db2dvi to decide whether or not to configure docbook support. Fink
> > probably put those in /sw/bin.
> > If that's the case, you need to add /sw/bin the path used by LyX. On
> > tiger (sorry, I'm a Mac newbie and haven't dealt with anything else)
> > you edit ~/.MacOSX/environment.plist. There's a GUI plist editor
> > available, but the file is just XML text, so you can use your favorite
> > text editor on it as well.
> Actually, if all you want is to add /sw/bin to the path that LyX  
> uses, you should do it from within LyX itself: LyX > Preferences >  
> PATH > PATH Prefix. (For LyX/Mac-1.3.6, the default settings already  
> have /sw/bin there.) If you add something to the PATH setting in  
> ~/.MacOSX/environment.plist, that will apply to *every* OS X  
> application, which is probably overkill and potentially a security risk.

Whether or not it's overkill depends on how many applications you have
that want to use programs from fink (or, in my case, darwinports). I
have a couple, so doing things this way is easier for me.

I found this method while trying to figure out why LyX wasn't finding
my darwinports software. That I didn't find the LyX > Preferences >
PATH > PATH Prefix methods suggests a doc bug. This appears to be a
Mac issue - I don't find the PATH entries in preferences in 1.3.5 on
my Unix box. Might just be my not having taken time to read the docs
properly, though.

  http://www.mired.org/consulting.html
Independent Network/Unix/Perforce consultant, email for more information.

Command Control

[Mike Meyer]

I use LyX on both Unix and the Mac. The Mac version does a marvelous
job of looking like a Mac application (at least to my
not-very-mac-enabled-eyes), but it does so by mapping the control key
bindings to the command key. This means I can't use the non-Mac
bindings - especially the emacs bindings - an get the behavior I
want. This means it's a pain for me to move back and forth between the
two.

Can someone suggest a way to make the control key in MacLyX be the
control key, instead of the command key?

Thanks,
  http://www.mired.org/consulting.html
Independent Network/Unix/Perforce consultant, email for more information.

Re: tetex RPMs (was: Re: Problems installing 1.3.6-1 RPMs)

[Stephen Harris]

"Stephen" == Stephen P Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:


Stephen> Unfortunately, I think it is more likely that you forgot it.
Stephen> Do as I say, not as I do.

Let's forget about it, then :)

The points that interest me in that discussion are:

- the fact that the tetex rpms might not be of very good quality on
 RH. This is not an anathema, AFAIK. Actually, I think P. Flynn knows
 more about (La)TeX that anyone else I know on this list (Herbert
 Voss excepted, maybe; I am going to piss of the other TeXnicians
 I forgot...), and his thoughts about this are appreciated.

SH: My credo is "principles before personalities". P. Flynn may be
an expert at (La)TeX but this required a different skill set. He
didn't know about yum, /.lyx/preferences nor apparently about FC4 
and rpms or Georg Baum wouldn't have posted explaining rpms to him.


- we should try to build LyX in a way that allows for changing TeX
 distributions as easily as possible. In particularly, people who
 want to use the TeX Collection distribution should be able to do so
 with minimal hassle.

SH: I certainly agree with this. I think FC4 might install its version
of tetex by default. I had previously gotten Lyx1.3.6 to work with the
FC4 provided tetex files. So it took me about 15 minutes to erase lyx
and tetex +dependencies in preparation to installing the Tex 2004 dvd.
I think one can do a custom install of FC4 and uncheck the tetex box(es)
and avoid that chore.

- the code that searches for a latex executable was written by me at a
 time where LaTeX 2.09 was not uncommon. I can accept the fact that
 it is now completely inadequate.

SH: One needs to remember to put "PATH=/usr/TeX/bin/i386-linux:$PATH
export PATH into .bashrc_profile as detailed in the TeX 2004 User Guide.

Then installing LyX1.3.6 and Qt with the rpms was fairly uneventful. I 
had left the xft fonts and aiksaurus installed. So LyX fired up and looked

OK. And the Tex Information displayed a lot of stuff. But when I tried to
load currency.lyx, I got an error message about missing article.cls So I
tried Reconfigure and that restored all the viewers (which were missing).

I rebooted and Reconfigure hadn't stuck. Missing article.cls again. I
checked the preferences file and it was empty except for the screen & fonts
section. From Windows I hunched this was a path problem. So I checked Edit
Preferences-->Paths and it was empty. Not even ImageMagick which is installed.

So then I used Angus Leeming's time honored recipe of fiddling with Path_prefix
echo $PATH which I cut and pasted into Path prefix(saved). Also put /usr/bin/xpdf 
in file formats to check on Paul Johnson's complaint (it worked ok). At any rate,

this doesn't work like my Windows experience would lead me to expect. Now the
changes I made showed up in the preferences file under Misc = the Linux Path,
and I have one entry under Format section: \viewer "pdf3" "/usr/bin/xpdf" 


- the fact that configure is run at install time (and thus as root as
 Peter points out) is indeed a problem. It causes griefs to the
 windows installer too. I'll try to remove this for 1.4.1.

Discussions about moral censure and ethics are an unneeded distraction
in this context.

JMarc

I agree. That is why I resented them being introduced ("kludge" and 
the suggestion that RH deliberately sabotaged TeX cd releases by PF) 
and then I was chastised for expressing my disapproval. Ridiculing 
that popinjay was a mild response. 


From FC4,

Stephen

Re: Problems installing 1.3.6-1 RPMs

[Rex Dieter]

Stephen P. Harris wrote:

- Original Message - From: "Peter Flynn" 



Is anyone out there using LyX on FC4?



I am using LyX on FC4 with no problem. The way I installed it was:

1. copied my own .lyx directory into my home directory;
2. yum install lyx.



I just finished installing LyX 1.3.6 on FC4. I used these files.

latex-xft-fonts-0.1-2.1.fc3.rf.noarch.rpm
libaiksaurus-1.2_0-1.2.1-2mdk.i586.rpm
lyx-1.3.6-1.li.noarch.rpm
lyx-qt-1.3.6-1.li.fc4.i586.rpm


I didn't follow the whole thread, but if it hadn't already been pointed 
out, you used the wrong rpms.  lyx and mathml-fonts are both in Fedora 
Extras.  Either manually download them, or simply enable the Fedora 
Extras repo in /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-extras.repo, and use:

yum install lyx
as originally suggested.

-- Rex

Re: OT: tetex RPMs

[Rex Dieter]

Stephen P. Harris wrote:


- Original Message - From: "Angus Leeming" 



Stephen P. Harris wrote:


Peter Flynn is an arrogant, ignorant blowhard. I think my expression
of dissatisfaction was rather moderate. I think your moral intervention
was a day late and a dollar short and not directed at the instigator.



My apologies. I hadn't realised I was expected to read all your mails as
they arrived.



You are not when you act as a contributor to the mailing list. However,
Angus wrote: > Stephen, cool it please.


That statement is easily seen as one of moral censure. 

...

SH: That means you think I have said something inappropriate.


Sorry you took offense, but I simply read Angus' comment as meaning 
"Don't feed the trolls".


-- Rex

Re: Problems installing 1.3.6-1 RPMs

[Rex Dieter]

Peter Flynn wrote:

Paul Smith wrote:


2. yum install lyx.


Aaaaggghhh! *Never*, never, never do this if you already have TeX. 
Especially not if you have already carefully removed the outdated mess 
that is the RH kludge of tetex, and replaced it with the real tetex from 
the TeX Collection DVD.


Bah, IMO, bad advice, and a borderline troll to boot.

We have many happy users of the stock lyx/tetex packages here in our 
(Math) department (though i've had to rebuild a customized tetex to 
default to US/Letter paper instead of A4).


-- Rex

Re: Command Control

[Bennett Helm]

On Sep 13, 2005, at 5:31 PM, Mike Meyer wrote:


I use LyX on both Unix and the Mac. The Mac version does a marvelous
job of looking like a Mac application (at least to my
not-very-mac-enabled-eyes), but it does so by mapping the control key
bindings to the command key. This means I can't use the non-Mac
bindings - especially the emacs bindings - an get the behavior I
want. This means it's a pain for me to move back and forth between the
two.

Can someone suggest a way to make the control key in MacLyX be the
control key, instead of the command key?


I believe it's a Qt/Mac issue: only  and  are  
available for key bindings. (If I recall, it's possible to patch Qt  
to substitute  for one of these, but I think it's a  
substitution rather than an addition. Can anyone correct me on this?)


Bennett

Re: Command Control

[Mike Meyer]

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Bennett Helm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> typed:
> On Sep 13, 2005, at 5:31 PM, Mike Meyer wrote:
> > I use LyX on both Unix and the Mac. The Mac version does a marvelous
> > job of looking like a Mac application (at least to my
> > not-very-mac-enabled-eyes), but it does so by mapping the control key
> > bindings to the command key. This means I can't use the non-Mac
> > bindings - especially the emacs bindings - an get the behavior I
> > want. This means it's a pain for me to move back and forth between the
> > two.
> > Can someone suggest a way to make the control key in MacLyX be the
> > control key, instead of the command key?
> I believe it's a Qt/Mac issue: only  and  are  
> available for key bindings. (If I recall, it's possible to patch Qt  
> to substitute  for one of these, but I think it's a  
> substitution rather than an addition. Can anyone correct me on this?)

It's definitely a substitution. If I use one of the other bindings,
Command-Key does what I expect Control-Key to do, and Control-Key does
nothing. If it had been an addition, I probably would have never
noticed.

Anyone got a pointer to the patch?

Thanks,
  http://www.mired.org/consulting.html
Independent Network/Unix/Perforce consultant, email for more information.

Re: Problems installing 1.3.6-1 RPMs

[Stephen Harris]

- Original Message - 
From: "Rex Dieter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 6:31 PM
Subject: Re: Problems installing 1.3.6-1 RPMs



Stephen P. Harris wrote:

- Original Message - From: "Peter Flynn" 



Is anyone out there using LyX on FC4?



I am using LyX on FC4 with no problem. The way I installed it was:

1. copied my own .lyx directory into my home directory;
2. yum install lyx.



I just finished installing LyX 1.3.6 on FC4. I used these files.

latex-xft-fonts-0.1-2.1.fc3.rf.noarch.rpm
libaiksaurus-1.2_0-1.2.1-2mdk.i586.rpm
lyx-1.3.6-1.li.noarch.rpm
lyx-qt-1.3.6-1.li.fc4.i586.rpm


I didn't follow the whole thread, but if it hadn't already been pointed 
out, you used the wrong rpms.  lyx and mathml-fonts are both in Fedora 
Extras.  Either manually download them, or simply enable the Fedora 
Extras repo in /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-extras.repo, and use:

yum install lyx
as originally suggested.

-- Rex




Originally, yum installed lyx 1.3.5. Someone said this was fixed about
3 weeks ago. The OP installed the Tex Live dvd. If you use yum, it
overwrites the TL tetex installation. The OP's complaint was that RH 
rpms lagged at least a year behind the fixes in the Tex Live cd and so 
he did not want them overwritten. 


I used those rpms because they don't insist on installing tetex as a
dependency (rpms don't see non-rpms) and erasing TL tetex (2nd) 
and originally because that was all I could find. They worked just fine.
Maybe the Bakoma fonts should be in extras along with math-ml fonts? 


The default is A4. I changed it to US with texconfig --paper letter
or some syntax close to that. Apparently there is antipathy towards
the fedora tetex rpms on comp.text.tex and even if Peter Flynn is
an expert on Latex, he doesn't need to carry his agenda into the
lyx-user mailing list, IMO, especially since he did so without humor.

Water under the bridge,
Stephen