Re: Footnotes problem

[Charles de Miramon]

K. Elo wrote:

 Hi,
 
 Axel Dessecker, 9.12.2005 19:50:
 Kimmo,

 Am Freitag, 09. Dezember 2005 15:27 schrieb K. Elo:
  1) The title should be followed by a footnote marked with *, i.e.
  bla bla bla*
  2) All other footnotes should be marked with numbers (1,2,...).
  Actually, the idea is the same as in TLC2e, p. 115.

 What about something like

 \thanks{The author wishes to thank his girlfriend, kids, pets, and
 the LyX community.}

No need for ERT. If you insert a footnote at the end of your title, LyX is
smart enough to format it as a \thanks.

Beware, that \thanks{} is fragile in LaTeX. Try inserting a bullet list in a
thanks footnote. It won't compile without some strategically placed
\protect commands. Then try inserting a bullet list in a normal footnote.
It works. Bizarre behaviours like this one are kept to oblige you to buy
fat and expensive LaTeX manuals ;-)

Cheers,
Charles 
-- 
http://www.kde-france.org

Writing text on the Part page

[Steve Litt]

Hi all,

For my next book I'm using a derivative of the Memoir class.

My next book has two distinct parts that have two very different functions in 
the book. Each needs an explanation, and because it's a book of short 
stories, it would be inappropriate to have the first chapter in a Part be the 
explanation. I'd like to put a few paragraphs of explanation right on the 
Part page. Anyone know how to do that?

Thanks

SteveT

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Superscript

[Steve Litt]

Hi all,

I just went to write O2, as in two oxygen atoms stuck together, and saw no 
provision for superscripting the 2, at least not on the Format-Character 
dialog box. There was also no subscript. I know this can't be true -- how do 
I do it?

I'm using LyX 1.3.3.

Thanks

SteveT

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Re: Prerelease of LyX 1.3.7_5 for Windows

[Paul A. Rubin]

Stephen Harris wrote:

I notice that Paul Rubin has already made developers aware of this 
issue. My issue is the same as his, and his report of sh.exe  being 
invoked several times is perhaps confirmed by my Path prefix which has 
several instances of C:\msy1.0\bin

(and a few others) whereas it used to appear only once.


Actually, I think they are unrelated.  The MinSys bin directory only 
appears once on my path.  As for seeing multiple instances of sh running 
during configuration, that appears to be normal behavior. There is one 
parent instance of sh (running the configure script), and it spawns 
subordinate instances of sh when certain commands are executed.


Paul

scalable braces in math mode

[Nusret BALCI]

The following doesn't harm in any serious way, but
it's a curious behavior. 

I think Lyx doesn't handle well commands like \left\{,
 \right\{
\left(, \right), etc. from the user interface.
Especially try the ones for braces, you'll see what I
mean. Interestingly, when you write first 
\left(  \right),  and then place the cursor between
the parentheses, Lyx allows you to write between
\right  and ) for example. it's hard to notice this,
as the only visual hint is an invisible slim extra
space before ) caused by \right. This causes latex
errors.

As I said, I don't mean to complain needlessly, but I
thought it may help the developers to improve things
if they feel it's worth it.

Regards,

Nusret

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Re: scalable braces in math mode

[Paul Smith]

On 12/11/05, Nusret BALCI [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The following doesn't harm in any serious way, but
 it's a curious behavior.

 I think Lyx doesn't handle well commands like \left\{,
  \right\{
 \left(, \right), etc. from the user interface.
 Especially try the ones for braces, you'll see what I
 mean. Interestingly, when you write first
 \left(  \right),  and then place the cursor between
 the parentheses, Lyx allows you to write between
 \right  and ) for example. it's hard to notice this,
 as the only visual hint is an invisible slim extra
 space before ) caused by \right. This causes latex
 errors.

Nusret: use (inside math mode)

alt+m and then alt gr+ {

Good luck!

Paul

Re: Prerelease of LyX 1.3.7_5 for Windows

[Stephen Harris]

- Original Message - 
From: Paul A. Rubin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2005 3:02 PM
Subject: Re: Prerelease of LyX 1.3.7_5 for Windows



Stephen Harris wrote:

I notice that Paul Rubin has already made developers aware of this 
issue. My issue is the same as his, and his report of sh.exe  being 
invoked several times is perhaps confirmed by my Path prefix which has 
several instances of C:\msy1.0\bin

(and a few others) whereas it used to appear only once.


Actually, I think they are unrelated.  The MinSys bin directory only 
appears once on my path.  As for seeing multiple instances of sh running 
during configuration, that appears to be normal behavior. There is one 
parent instance of sh (running the configure script), and it spawns 
subordinate instances of sh when certain commands are executed.


Paul



By the same issue as his I meant this part of your post,

Paul: The not as good news is that the same installation problem 
I experienced in pre4 is present in pre5. (Recap: the configuration 
script fails to execute during installation; the program launches ok 
at the end of installation, without running the configuration script;

[SH: failed attempting to execute the configure script]

coupled with the Angus reply: I think that's correct, but there's an 
implicit assumption there that LyX's initial inability to run LaTeX 
(initial meaning when the installer starts LyX), and possibly 
Brian Linfoot's initial problems with instant preview, are the result 
of the configuration script not running. [not specific to dragndrop] 

SH: I expressed this as, The installation fails, saying it can't run 
the configure script. There is no checking of + items located on 
the dos screen, that doesn't happen. 


-

The reason why I wrote perhaps confirmed by my Path prefix
is that you also wrote: the first subsequent launch runs the 
configuration script successfully but silently.)  


I tried that, to launch LyX again. But this produced the same
error as the first launch about no textclass.lst being found,
[Lyx wasn't able to find its layout descriptions]
sorry Lyx has to close. You didn't include that in your report so
maybe that is another difference. I have gotten the error message
about the configuration script failing in both pre4 and pre5. I can
use either dos or Msys to fix it, sh.exe configure, but either way,
it produces a cyclic output in one long line in Prefix path

Msys
Msys, python
Msys, python, texmf,
Msys, python, texmf, perl
msys, python, texmf, perl, ghostscript
and finally: msys, python, texmf, perl, ghostscript, ImageMagick

so that to fix it, I delete everything backwards of the last sequence.
I was thinking that each time a partial path was written, that a child
sh.exe might have been creating it, but you understand this stuff
better than I do so you are no doubt right; maybe this is a symptom
produced by the configure code.

In Lyx1.3.7pre2 I could install to C:\program files\LyX but not
C:\Lyx; this used to work with 1.3.6 stable, using either path.

So I think the configure file has changed between versions and
if the configure file implements cases of a path with spaces the
fundamental problem might be there. I'll compare the configuration
files for 1.3.6 and 1.3.7. As you may have also read sometimes
the presence of absence of a / at the end of a path is critical.
On a hunch, I tried changing both sh.exe and sed.exe to Win95
compatibility mode without any luck.

Annozilla,
Stephen

Re: scalable braces in math mode

[Nusret BALCI]

Thank you Paul. By the way, your suggestion uncovered
just another minor issue: I use sciword binding file.
It supposedly includes the math.bind file which
contains the binding you mentioned (but without
AltGr). However it didn't work. I tried to find the
reason and noticed that there is a typo in
sciword.bind file: it inclued maths.bind file (which
doesn't exist) instead of math.bind. Just in case
anyone runs into the same problem...
Regards,

Nusret

--- Paul Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 12/11/05, Nusret BALCI [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  The following doesn't harm in any serious way, but
  it's a curious behavior.
 
  I think Lyx doesn't handle well commands like
 \left\{,
   \right\{
  \left(, \right), etc. from the user interface.
  Especially try the ones for braces, you'll see
 what I
  mean. Interestingly, when you write first
  \left(  \right),  and then place the cursor
 between
  the parentheses, Lyx allows you to write between
  \right  and ) for example. it's hard to notice
 this,
  as the only visual hint is an invisible slim extra
  space before ) caused by \right. This causes latex
  errors.
 
 Nusret: use (inside math mode)
 
 alt+m and then alt gr+ {
 
 Good luck!
 
 Paul
 


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Re: Prerelease of LyX 1.3.7_5 for Windows

[Stephen Harris]

- Original Message - 
From: Stephen Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org; Paul A. Rubin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2005 6:14 PM
Subject: Re: Prerelease of LyX 1.3.7_5 for Windows



So I think the configure file has changed between versions and
if the configure file implements cases of a path with spaces the
fundamental problem might be there. I'll compare the configuration
files for 1.3.6 and 1.3.7. As you may have also read sometimes
the presence of absence of a / at the end of a path is critical.
On a hunch, I tried changing both sh.exe and sed.exe to Win95
compatibility mode without any luck.



I compared the two configure files, lyx1.3.6 and Lyx1.3.7pre5
and the only difference in content I could tell was

\\path_prefix C:\\msys\\1.0\\bin;C:\\Python24;C:\\texmf\\miktex\\bin;
C:\\Perl\\bin;C:\\gs8.51\\gs8.51\\bin;C:\\ImageMagick
EOF 1.3.6 stable, configure file


The 1.3.7pre5 configure contains more entries and this is the same as what 
gets written to LyX 1.3.7pre5 Path prefix after I run 'sh.exe configure' 
later.

---

\\path_prefix C:\\msys\\1.0\\bin;C:\\msys\\1.0\\bin;C:\\Python24;
C:\\msys\\1.0\\bin;C:\\Python24;C:\\texmf\\miktex\\bin;
C:\\msys\\1.0\\bin;C:\\Python24;C:\\texmf\\miktex\\bin;
C:\\Perl\\bin;C:\\msys\\1.0\\bin;C:\\Python24;
C:\\texmf\\miktex\\bin;C:\\Perl\\bin;C:\\gs8.51\\gs8.51\\bin;
C:\\msys\\1.0\\bin;C:\\Python24;C:\\texmf\\miktex\\bin;C:\\Perl\\bin;
C:\\gs8.51\\gs8.51\\bin;C:\\ImageMagick
EOF 1.3.7pre5, configure file 

Re: Superscript SOLVED

[Steve Litt]

On Saturday 10 December 2005 02:12 pm, Charles de Miramon wrote:
 Steve Litt wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  I just went to write O2, as in two oxygen atoms stuck together, and saw
  no provision for superscripting the 2, at least not on the
  Format-Character dialog box. There was also no subscript. I know this
  can't be true -- how do I do it?
 
  I'm using LyX 1.3.3.

 You can insert a subscript with insert -- special character -- subscript.
 It is a hack that will create a math inset with a subscript.
 Or you can use in ERT O\textsuperscript{2}

 The two solutions are not typographically equivalent, the superscript is
 not placed at the same place. For abreviations superscripts like 12th for
 example, or Mr. Dr., use textsuperscript for chemical symbols use a
 mathematical inset.

 I wish the actual superscript and subscript hacks could go away. They are a
 pain when you export a LyX file to rtf (they are transformed in
 mathematical formulas) and result in wrong typesetting. Lyx should default
 to \textsuperscript and \textsubscript

Thanks Charles,

I tried these both, and they both worked. I chose the 
Insert-Specialcharacter-superscript method for 2 reasons:

1) The 2 was visible in the LyX file, which is more clear
2) The 2 was bigger, which in this case I liked.

Thanks so much for the help.

SteveT
 
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Re: Footnotes problem

[Charles de Miramon]

K. Elo wrote:

 Hi,
 
 Axel Dessecker, 9.12.2005 19:50:
 Kimmo,

 Am Freitag, 09. Dezember 2005 15:27 schrieb K. Elo:
  1) The title should be followed by a footnote marked with *, i.e.
  bla bla bla*
  2) All other footnotes should be marked with numbers (1,2,...).
  Actually, the idea is the same as in TLC2e, p. 115.

 What about something like

 \thanks{The author wishes to thank his girlfriend, kids, pets, and
 the LyX community.}

No need for ERT. If you insert a footnote at the end of your title, LyX is
smart enough to format it as a \thanks.

Beware, that \thanks{} is fragile in LaTeX. Try inserting a bullet list in a
thanks footnote. It won't compile without some strategically placed
\protect commands. Then try inserting a bullet list in a normal footnote.
It works. Bizarre behaviours like this one are kept to oblige you to buy
fat and expensive LaTeX manuals ;-)

Cheers,
Charles 
-- 
http://www.kde-france.org

Writing text on the Part page

[Steve Litt]

Hi all,

For my next book I'm using a derivative of the Memoir class.

My next book has two distinct parts that have two very different functions in 
the book. Each needs an explanation, and because it's a book of short 
stories, it would be inappropriate to have the first chapter in a Part be the 
explanation. I'd like to put a few paragraphs of explanation right on the 
Part page. Anyone know how to do that?

Thanks

SteveT

Steve Litt
Author: 
   * Universal Troubleshooting Process courseware
   * Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist
   * Rapid Learning: Secret Weapon of the Successful Technologist
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Superscript

[Steve Litt]

Hi all,

I just went to write O2, as in two oxygen atoms stuck together, and saw no 
provision for superscripting the 2, at least not on the Format-Character 
dialog box. There was also no subscript. I know this can't be true -- how do 
I do it?

I'm using LyX 1.3.3.

Thanks

SteveT

Steve Litt
Author: 
   * Universal Troubleshooting Process courseware
   * Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist
   * Rapid Learning: Secret Weapon of the Successful Technologist
Webmaster
   * Troubleshooters.Com
   * http://www.troubleshooters.com

Re: Prerelease of LyX 1.3.7_5 for Windows

[Paul A. Rubin]

Stephen Harris wrote:

I notice that Paul Rubin has already made developers aware of this 
issue. My issue is the same as his, and his report of sh.exe  being 
invoked several times is perhaps confirmed by my Path prefix which has 
several instances of C:\msy1.0\bin

(and a few others) whereas it used to appear only once.


Actually, I think they are unrelated.  The MinSys bin directory only 
appears once on my path.  As for seeing multiple instances of sh running 
during configuration, that appears to be normal behavior. There is one 
parent instance of sh (running the configure script), and it spawns 
subordinate instances of sh when certain commands are executed.


Paul

scalable braces in math mode

[Nusret BALCI]

The following doesn't harm in any serious way, but
it's a curious behavior. 

I think Lyx doesn't handle well commands like \left\{,
 \right\{
\left(, \right), etc. from the user interface.
Especially try the ones for braces, you'll see what I
mean. Interestingly, when you write first 
\left(  \right),  and then place the cursor between
the parentheses, Lyx allows you to write between
\right  and ) for example. it's hard to notice this,
as the only visual hint is an invisible slim extra
space before ) caused by \right. This causes latex
errors.

As I said, I don't mean to complain needlessly, but I
thought it may help the developers to improve things
if they feel it's worth it.

Regards,

Nusret

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Re: scalable braces in math mode

[Paul Smith]

On 12/11/05, Nusret BALCI [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The following doesn't harm in any serious way, but
 it's a curious behavior.

 I think Lyx doesn't handle well commands like \left\{,
  \right\{
 \left(, \right), etc. from the user interface.
 Especially try the ones for braces, you'll see what I
 mean. Interestingly, when you write first
 \left(  \right),  and then place the cursor between
 the parentheses, Lyx allows you to write between
 \right  and ) for example. it's hard to notice this,
 as the only visual hint is an invisible slim extra
 space before ) caused by \right. This causes latex
 errors.

Nusret: use (inside math mode)

alt+m and then alt gr+ {

Good luck!

Paul

Re: Prerelease of LyX 1.3.7_5 for Windows

[Stephen Harris]

- Original Message - 
From: Paul A. Rubin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2005 3:02 PM
Subject: Re: Prerelease of LyX 1.3.7_5 for Windows



Stephen Harris wrote:

I notice that Paul Rubin has already made developers aware of this 
issue. My issue is the same as his, and his report of sh.exe  being 
invoked several times is perhaps confirmed by my Path prefix which has 
several instances of C:\msy1.0\bin

(and a few others) whereas it used to appear only once.


Actually, I think they are unrelated.  The MinSys bin directory only 
appears once on my path.  As for seeing multiple instances of sh running 
during configuration, that appears to be normal behavior. There is one 
parent instance of sh (running the configure script), and it spawns 
subordinate instances of sh when certain commands are executed.


Paul



By the same issue as his I meant this part of your post,

Paul: The not as good news is that the same installation problem 
I experienced in pre4 is present in pre5. (Recap: the configuration 
script fails to execute during installation; the program launches ok 
at the end of installation, without running the configuration script;

[SH: failed attempting to execute the configure script]

coupled with the Angus reply: I think that's correct, but there's an 
implicit assumption there that LyX's initial inability to run LaTeX 
(initial meaning when the installer starts LyX), and possibly 
Brian Linfoot's initial problems with instant preview, are the result 
of the configuration script not running. [not specific to dragndrop] 

SH: I expressed this as, The installation fails, saying it can't run 
the configure script. There is no checking of + items located on 
the dos screen, that doesn't happen. 


-

The reason why I wrote perhaps confirmed by my Path prefix
is that you also wrote: the first subsequent launch runs the 
configuration script successfully but silently.)  


I tried that, to launch LyX again. But this produced the same
error as the first launch about no textclass.lst being found,
[Lyx wasn't able to find its layout descriptions]
sorry Lyx has to close. You didn't include that in your report so
maybe that is another difference. I have gotten the error message
about the configuration script failing in both pre4 and pre5. I can
use either dos or Msys to fix it, sh.exe configure, but either way,
it produces a cyclic output in one long line in Prefix path

Msys
Msys, python
Msys, python, texmf,
Msys, python, texmf, perl
msys, python, texmf, perl, ghostscript
and finally: msys, python, texmf, perl, ghostscript, ImageMagick

so that to fix it, I delete everything backwards of the last sequence.
I was thinking that each time a partial path was written, that a child
sh.exe might have been creating it, but you understand this stuff
better than I do so you are no doubt right; maybe this is a symptom
produced by the configure code.

In Lyx1.3.7pre2 I could install to C:\program files\LyX but not
C:\Lyx; this used to work with 1.3.6 stable, using either path.

So I think the configure file has changed between versions and
if the configure file implements cases of a path with spaces the
fundamental problem might be there. I'll compare the configuration
files for 1.3.6 and 1.3.7. As you may have also read sometimes
the presence of absence of a / at the end of a path is critical.
On a hunch, I tried changing both sh.exe and sed.exe to Win95
compatibility mode without any luck.

Annozilla,
Stephen

Re: scalable braces in math mode

[Nusret BALCI]

Thank you Paul. By the way, your suggestion uncovered
just another minor issue: I use sciword binding file.
It supposedly includes the math.bind file which
contains the binding you mentioned (but without
AltGr). However it didn't work. I tried to find the
reason and noticed that there is a typo in
sciword.bind file: it inclued maths.bind file (which
doesn't exist) instead of math.bind. Just in case
anyone runs into the same problem...
Regards,

Nusret

--- Paul Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 12/11/05, Nusret BALCI [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  The following doesn't harm in any serious way, but
  it's a curious behavior.
 
  I think Lyx doesn't handle well commands like
 \left\{,
   \right\{
  \left(, \right), etc. from the user interface.
  Especially try the ones for braces, you'll see
 what I
  mean. Interestingly, when you write first
  \left(  \right),  and then place the cursor
 between
  the parentheses, Lyx allows you to write between
  \right  and ) for example. it's hard to notice
 this,
  as the only visual hint is an invisible slim extra
  space before ) caused by \right. This causes latex
  errors.
 
 Nusret: use (inside math mode)
 
 alt+m and then alt gr+ {
 
 Good luck!
 
 Paul
 


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Re: Prerelease of LyX 1.3.7_5 for Windows

[Stephen Harris]

- Original Message - 
From: Stephen Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org; Paul A. Rubin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2005 6:14 PM
Subject: Re: Prerelease of LyX 1.3.7_5 for Windows



So I think the configure file has changed between versions and
if the configure file implements cases of a path with spaces the
fundamental problem might be there. I'll compare the configuration
files for 1.3.6 and 1.3.7. As you may have also read sometimes
the presence of absence of a / at the end of a path is critical.
On a hunch, I tried changing both sh.exe and sed.exe to Win95
compatibility mode without any luck.



I compared the two configure files, lyx1.3.6 and Lyx1.3.7pre5
and the only difference in content I could tell was

\\path_prefix C:\\msys\\1.0\\bin;C:\\Python24;C:\\texmf\\miktex\\bin;
C:\\Perl\\bin;C:\\gs8.51\\gs8.51\\bin;C:\\ImageMagick
EOF 1.3.6 stable, configure file


The 1.3.7pre5 configure contains more entries and this is the same as what 
gets written to LyX 1.3.7pre5 Path prefix after I run 'sh.exe configure' 
later.

---

\\path_prefix C:\\msys\\1.0\\bin;C:\\msys\\1.0\\bin;C:\\Python24;
C:\\msys\\1.0\\bin;C:\\Python24;C:\\texmf\\miktex\\bin;
C:\\msys\\1.0\\bin;C:\\Python24;C:\\texmf\\miktex\\bin;
C:\\Perl\\bin;C:\\msys\\1.0\\bin;C:\\Python24;
C:\\texmf\\miktex\\bin;C:\\Perl\\bin;C:\\gs8.51\\gs8.51\\bin;
C:\\msys\\1.0\\bin;C:\\Python24;C:\\texmf\\miktex\\bin;C:\\Perl\\bin;
C:\\gs8.51\\gs8.51\\bin;C:\\ImageMagick
EOF 1.3.7pre5, configure file 

Re: Superscript SOLVED

[Steve Litt]

On Saturday 10 December 2005 02:12 pm, Charles de Miramon wrote:
 Steve Litt wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  I just went to write O2, as in two oxygen atoms stuck together, and saw
  no provision for superscripting the 2, at least not on the
  Format-Character dialog box. There was also no subscript. I know this
  can't be true -- how do I do it?
 
  I'm using LyX 1.3.3.

 You can insert a subscript with insert -- special character -- subscript.
 It is a hack that will create a math inset with a subscript.
 Or you can use in ERT O\textsuperscript{2}

 The two solutions are not typographically equivalent, the superscript is
 not placed at the same place. For abreviations superscripts like 12th for
 example, or Mr. Dr., use textsuperscript for chemical symbols use a
 mathematical inset.

 I wish the actual superscript and subscript hacks could go away. They are a
 pain when you export a LyX file to rtf (they are transformed in
 mathematical formulas) and result in wrong typesetting. Lyx should default
 to \textsuperscript and \textsubscript

Thanks Charles,

I tried these both, and they both worked. I chose the 
Insert-Specialcharacter-superscript method for 2 reasons:

1) The 2 was visible in the LyX file, which is more clear
2) The 2 was bigger, which in this case I liked.

Thanks so much for the help.

SteveT
 
Steve Litt
Author: 
   * Universal Troubleshooting Process courseware
   * Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist
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Re: Footnotes problem

[Charles de Miramon]

K. Elo wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Axel Dessecker, 9.12.2005 19:50:
>> Kimmo,
>>
>> Am Freitag, 09. Dezember 2005 15:27 schrieb K. Elo:
>> > 1) The title should be followed by a footnote marked with *, i.e.
>> > bla bla bla*
>> > 2) All other footnotes should be marked with numbers (1,2,...).
>> > Actually, the idea is the same as in TLC2e, p. 115.
>>
>> What about something like
>>
>> \thanks{The author wishes to thank his girlfriend, kids, pets, and
>> the LyX community.}

No need for ERT. If you insert a footnote at the end of your title, LyX is
smart enough to format it as a \thanks.

Beware, that \thanks{} is fragile in LaTeX. Try inserting a bullet list in a
thanks footnote. It won't compile without some strategically placed
\protect commands. Then try inserting a bullet list in a normal footnote.
It works. Bizarre behaviours like this one are kept to oblige you to buy
fat and expensive LaTeX manuals ;-)

Cheers,
Charles 
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Writing text on the Part page

[Steve Litt]

Hi all,

For my next book I'm using a derivative of the Memoir class.

My next book has two distinct parts that have two very different functions in 
the book. Each needs an explanation, and because it's a book of short 
stories, it would be inappropriate to have the first chapter in a Part be the 
explanation. I'd like to put a few paragraphs of explanation right on the 
Part page. Anyone know how to do that?

Thanks

SteveT

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Superscript

[Steve Litt]

Hi all,

I just went to write O2, as in two oxygen atoms stuck together, and saw no 
provision for superscripting the 2, at least not on the Format->Character 
dialog box. There was also no subscript. I know this can't be true -- how do 
I do it?

I'm using LyX 1.3.3.

Thanks

SteveT

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Re: Prerelease of LyX 1.3.7_5 for Windows

[Paul A. Rubin]

Stephen Harris wrote:

I notice that Paul Rubin has already made developers aware of this 
issue. My issue is the same as his, and his report of sh.exe  being 
invoked several times is perhaps confirmed by my Path prefix which has 
several instances of C:\msy1.0\bin

(and a few others) whereas it used to appear only once.


Actually, I think they are unrelated.  The MinSys bin directory only 
appears once on my path.  As for seeing multiple instances of sh running 
during configuration, that appears to be normal behavior. There is one 
parent instance of sh (running the configure script), and it spawns 
subordinate instances of sh when certain commands are executed.


Paul

scalable braces in math mode

[Nusret BALCI]

The following doesn't harm in any serious way, but
it's a curious behavior. 

I think Lyx doesn't handle well commands like \left\{,
 \right\{
\left(, \right), etc. from the user interface.
Especially try the ones for braces, you'll see what I
mean. Interestingly, when you write first 
\left(  \right),  and then place the cursor between
the parentheses, Lyx allows you to write between
\right  and ) for example. it's hard to notice this,
as the only visual hint is an invisible slim extra
space before ) caused by \right. This causes latex
errors.

As I said, I don't mean to complain needlessly, but I
thought it may help the developers to improve things
if they feel it's worth it.

Regards,

Nusret

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Re: scalable braces in math mode

[Paul Smith]

On 12/11/05, Nusret BALCI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The following doesn't harm in any serious way, but
> it's a curious behavior.
>
> I think Lyx doesn't handle well commands like \left\{,
>  \right\{
> \left(, \right), etc. from the user interface.
> Especially try the ones for braces, you'll see what I
> mean. Interestingly, when you write first
> \left(  \right),  and then place the cursor between
> the parentheses, Lyx allows you to write between
> \right  and ) for example. it's hard to notice this,
> as the only visual hint is an invisible slim extra
> space before ) caused by \right. This causes latex
> errors.

Nusret: use (inside math mode)

alt+m and then alt gr+ {

Good luck!

Paul

Re: Prerelease of LyX 1.3.7_5 for Windows

[Stephen Harris]

- Original Message - 
From: "Paul A. Rubin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2005 3:02 PM
Subject: Re: Prerelease of LyX 1.3.7_5 for Windows



Stephen Harris wrote:

I notice that Paul Rubin has already made developers aware of this 
issue. My issue is the same as his, and his report of sh.exe  being 
invoked several times is perhaps confirmed by my Path prefix which has 
several instances of C:\msy1.0\bin

(and a few others) whereas it used to appear only once.


Actually, I think they are unrelated.  The MinSys bin directory only 
appears once on my path.  As for seeing multiple instances of sh running 
during configuration, that appears to be normal behavior. There is one 
parent instance of sh (running the configure script), and it spawns 
subordinate instances of sh when certain commands are executed.


Paul



By the "same issue as his" I meant this part of your post,

Paul: "The not as good news is that the same installation problem 
I experienced in pre4 is present in pre5. (Recap: the configuration 
script fails to execute during installation; the program launches ok 
at the end of installation, without running the configuration script;"

[SH: "failed attempting to execute the configure script"]

coupled with the Angus reply: "I think that's correct, but there's an 
implicit assumption there that LyX's initial inability to run LaTeX 
("initial" meaning when the installer starts LyX), and possibly 
Brian Linfoot's initial problems with instant preview, are the result 
of the configuration script not running." [not specific to dragndrop] 

SH: I expressed this as, "The installation fails, saying it can't run 
the configure script. There is no checking of + items located on 
the dos screen, that doesn't happen. 


-

The reason why I wrote "perhaps confirmed by my Path prefix"
is that you also wrote: "the first subsequent launch runs the 
configuration script successfully but silently.)  


I tried that, to launch LyX again. But this produced the same
error as the first launch about no textclass.lst being found,
["Lyx wasn't able to find its layout descriptions"]
sorry Lyx has to close. You didn't include that in your report so
maybe that is another difference. I have gotten the error message
about the configuration script failing in both pre4 and pre5. I can
use either dos or Msys to fix it, sh.exe configure, but either way,
it produces a cyclic output in one long line in Prefix path

Msys
Msys, python
Msys, python, texmf,
Msys, python, texmf, perl
msys, python, texmf, perl, ghostscript
and finally: msys, python, texmf, perl, ghostscript, ImageMagick

so that to fix it, I delete everything backwards of the last sequence.
I was thinking that each time a partial path was written, that a child
sh.exe might have been creating it, but you understand this stuff
better than I do so you are no doubt right; maybe this is a symptom
produced by the configure code.

In Lyx1.3.7pre2 I could install to C:\program files\LyX but not
C:\Lyx; this used to work with 1.3.6 stable, using either path.

So I think the configure file has changed between versions and
if the configure file implements cases of a path with spaces the
fundamental problem might be there. I'll compare the configuration
files for 1.3.6 and 1.3.7. As you may have also read sometimes
the presence of absence of a "/" at the end of a path is critical.
On a hunch, I tried changing both sh.exe and sed.exe to Win95
compatibility mode without any luck.

Annozilla,
Stephen

Re: scalable braces in math mode

[Nusret BALCI]

Thank you Paul. By the way, your suggestion uncovered
just another minor issue: I use sciword binding file.
It supposedly includes the math.bind file which
contains the binding you mentioned (but without
AltGr). However it didn't work. I tried to find the
reason and noticed that there is a typo in
sciword.bind file: it inclued "maths.bind" file (which
doesn't exist) instead of "math.bind". Just in case
anyone runs into the same problem...
Regards,

Nusret

--- Paul Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 12/11/05, Nusret BALCI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > The following doesn't harm in any serious way, but
> > it's a curious behavior.
> >
> > I think Lyx doesn't handle well commands like
> \left\{,
> >  \right\{
> > \left(, \right), etc. from the user interface.
> > Especially try the ones for braces, you'll see
> what I
> > mean. Interestingly, when you write first
> > \left(  \right),  and then place the cursor
> between
> > the parentheses, Lyx allows you to write between
> > \right  and ) for example. it's hard to notice
> this,
> > as the only visual hint is an invisible slim extra
> > space before ) caused by \right. This causes latex
> > errors.
> 
> Nusret: use (inside math mode)
> 
> alt+m and then alt gr+ {
> 
> Good luck!
> 
> Paul
> 


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Re: Prerelease of LyX 1.3.7_5 for Windows

[Stephen Harris]

- Original Message - 
From: "Stephen Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: ; "Paul A. Rubin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2005 6:14 PM
Subject: Re: Prerelease of LyX 1.3.7_5 for Windows



So I think the configure file has changed between versions and
if the configure file implements cases of a path with spaces the
fundamental problem might be there. I'll compare the configuration
files for 1.3.6 and 1.3.7. As you may have also read sometimes
the presence of absence of a "/" at the end of a path is critical.
On a hunch, I tried changing both sh.exe and sed.exe to Win95
compatibility mode without any luck.



I compared the two configure files, lyx1.3.6 and Lyx1.3.7pre5
and the only difference in content I could tell was

\\path_prefix "C:\\msys\\1.0\\bin;C:\\Python24;C:\\texmf\\miktex\\bin;
C:\\Perl\\bin;C:\\gs8.51\\gs8.51\\bin;C:\\ImageMagick"
EOF 1.3.6 stable, configure file


The 1.3.7pre5 configure contains more entries and this is the same as what 
gets written to LyX 1.3.7pre5 Path prefix after I run 'sh.exe configure' 
later.

---

\\path_prefix "C:\\msys\\1.0\\bin;C:\\msys\\1.0\\bin;C:\\Python24;
C:\\msys\\1.0\\bin;C:\\Python24;C:\\texmf\\miktex\\bin;
C:\\msys\\1.0\\bin;C:\\Python24;C:\\texmf\\miktex\\bin;
C:\\Perl\\bin;C:\\msys\\1.0\\bin;C:\\Python24;
C:\\texmf\\miktex\\bin;C:\\Perl\\bin;C:\\gs8.51\\gs8.51\\bin;
C:\\msys\\1.0\\bin;C:\\Python24;C:\\texmf\\miktex\\bin;C:\\Perl\\bin;
C:\\gs8.51\\gs8.51\\bin;C:\\ImageMagick"
EOF 1.3.7pre5, configure file 

Re: Superscript

[Steve Litt]

On Saturday 10 December 2005 02:12 pm, Charles de Miramon wrote:
> Steve Litt wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I just went to write O2, as in two oxygen atoms stuck together, and saw
> > no provision for superscripting the 2, at least not on the
> > Format->Character dialog box. There was also no subscript. I know this
> > can't be true -- how do I do it?
> >
> > I'm using LyX 1.3.3.
>
> You can insert a subscript with insert --> special character --> subscript.
> It is a hack that will create a math inset with a subscript.
> Or you can use in ERT O\textsuperscript{2}
>
> The two solutions are not typographically equivalent, the superscript is
> not placed at the same place. For abreviations superscripts like 12th for
> example, or Mr. Dr., use textsuperscript for chemical symbols use a
> mathematical inset.
>
> I wish the actual superscript and subscript hacks could go away. They are a
> pain when you export a LyX file to rtf (they are transformed in
> mathematical formulas) and result in wrong typesetting. Lyx should default
> to \textsuperscript and \textsubscript

Thanks Charles,

I tried these both, and they both worked. I chose the 
Insert->Specialcharacter->superscript method for 2 reasons:

1) The 2 was visible in the LyX file, which is more clear
2) The 2 was bigger, which in this case I liked.

Thanks so much for the help.

SteveT
 
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