Fwd: Re: Historical question
Dear Anders, this might interest you (history of Lyx) Wolfgang -- Weitergeleitete Nachricht -- Subject: Re: Historical question Date: Mittwoch, 13. September 2006 22:50 From: Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Dear Wolfgang, Thanks. I can understand most of the text. I started to study german ;) I will contact him. It is very strange for me, that I could not find info how old is this wonderful tool! I prefer to put it onto the website, when it is known. Alex Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: Am Mittwoch, 13. September 2006 21:37 schrieb Alex: Hi! I would like to know when was the development of LyX started? I could find 0.8.0 dated to 21st of dec, 1995. But when was it first announced or released to the public? Alex you might like to contact Matthias Ettrich who is currently at Trolltech in Oslo (N). He should know, since he started Lyx as a seminar work. In case you need translation of the following, let me know Wolfgang http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthias_Ettrich aus Wikipedia, der freien Enzyklopädie Wechseln zu: Navigation, Suche Matthias Ettrich auf dem LinuxTag 2005 vergrößern Matthias Ettrich auf dem LinuxTag 2005 Matthias Ettrich (* 14. Juni 1972 in Bietigheim, Deutschland) ist ein deutscher Informatiker und der Initiator des KDE-Projekts, indem er 1996 eine konsistente, nette und freie Desktop-Umgebung [sic] [1] für Unix im Usenet in Angriff nahm, die auf dem Qt-GUI-Toolkit basiert. Seit 1995 ist der deutsche Programmierer ebenso Autor des grafischen TeX-Frontends LyX, das er als Student zur Abfassung seiner Seminararbeiten als Semesterarbeit entwickelte. Da LyX hauptsächlich für Linux gedacht war, versuchte er, die Linux Desktop Umgebung für Anwender zu vereinfachen. Die Einsicht, dass dies nur über Vereinheitlichung möglich sei, führte schließlich zur Gründung des KDE-Projektes. Er studierte am Wilhelm-Schickard-Institut für Informatik an der Eberhard-Karls-Universität Tübingen und arbeitet zur Zeit bei Trolltech in Oslo an der Weiterentwicklung von Qt, der Toolkit-Basis von KDE. --- -- - Wolfgang Engelmann Schlossgartenstrasse 22 D-72070 Tübingen Tel 07071 68325
Re: Historical question
Oh, no, I don't still use that version. But I got more involved after I found the program (who here remembers when Matthias called it LyriX?) I think he called it first Lynx - which was already used... Wolfgang The name was changed because someone contacted Matthias threatening to sue, that name having been taken for a word processor of some sort.
Fwd: Re: Historical question
Subject: Fwd: Re: Historical question Date: Donnerstag, 14. September 2006 08:27 From: Wolfgang Engelmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Cc: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org sorry for a miss-directed letter Wolfgang
Re: single spacing does not work
Thank you for the reply; alas I am still not fully operational. I didn't have setspace.sty on my system (I did a full system search) so I went to the MikTeX package manager to download it. I downloaded it (after a few of the listed repositories bounced me for some reason) but when I went to the LaTeX Configuration 7.13 was a no, as were quite a few other packages (4.x 6.x 7.x I think) I decided to update MikTeX to 2.5 and see if that would help, no go. I went to the LyX-Tools-Reconfigure and after many many pop-up to download files, it seems to have finished. I shut down LyX and restarted my computer. I went to LaTeX Configuration and Lo! there were many more yeses, including 7.13. I went to my little document (it's just three lines, nothing special) selected single spacing, tried to render to dvi, and now get a brand new error the package download pop-ups I saw when I reconfigured saying that the required file tex\latex\setspace\setspace.sty is missing and needs to be downloaded. I press install, it pops up again, the document renders, but without the single spacing I wanted. I close down yap, make a change (so I don't get the cached dvi) CTRL-D, and the same download pop-up appears. If I press cancel instead of install I get a pop-up that say an empty output file was generated click okay, get a familiar LaTeX error message that File 'setspace.sty' not found. By the way, I checked, and it *is* in the E:\texmf\tex\latex\setspace folder (E: is my boot drive.) Any suggestions?
Inkscape SVG and LyX
Hi There! I've added a wiki entry that describes how to configure lyx to directly include svg images. See http://wiki.lyx.org/Tips/UseInkscapeSVGImages Any comments welcome. Bernhard
Re: External Xfig inset conversion fails
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 22:05:51 +0100 From: Paul Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Subject: Re: External Xfig inset conversion fails On 9/13/06, Jean-Pierre Chretien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: External insets conversions works well for me and not for colleagues (LyX complained about the pstex_t file not found in the document dir). It seems that this comes from the fact that I launch LyX from a command shell while others launch from the file manager (I created an association between the file type and the application on the Solaris application server). I can reproduce it by launching from a mail attachment. Is this an explanation, and is this behaviour known ? I see nothing in bugzilla. LyX-1.4.2-qt/Solaris I do not use Solaris, but something similar to what you describe occurs if I try to insert the *.pstex and not the *.fig file itself. Are you sure that your colleagues are not doing that? The output from the *same* file loaded from the command shell and from the file manager (dtfile) is OK with the first method and fails with the second one. I filed a bug (#2838) with a minimal test example. -- Jean-Pierre
Re: External Xfig inset conversion fails
Jean-Pierre Chretien wrote: Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 22:05:51 +0100 From: Paul Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Subject: Re: External Xfig inset conversion fails On 9/13/06, Jean-Pierre Chretien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: External insets conversions works well for me and not for colleagues (LyX complained about the pstex_t file not found in the document dir). It seems that this comes from the fact that I launch LyX from a command shell while others launch from the file manager (I created an association between the file type and the application on the Solaris application server). I can reproduce it by launching from a mail attachment. Is this an explanation, and is this behaviour known ? I see nothing in bugzilla. LyX-1.4.2-qt/Solaris I do not use Solaris, but something similar to what you describe occurs if I try to insert the *.pstex and not the *.fig file itself. Are you sure that your colleagues are not doing that? The output from the *same* file loaded from the command shell and from the file manager (dtfile) is OK with the first method and fails with the second one. I filed a bug (#2838) with a minimal test example. Just to get the obvious out of the way: You are aware that the .fig file isn't included into the .lyx file? I.e. you need to distribute both the .lyx and the .fig for this to work. That is why it is called an external inset - the file exist outside of lyx and referencing it does not change that fact. Also, this is easiest if the .fig is in the same directory as the .lyx, so that the .fig file is included without a path. If there is a path, then the .fig file must be placed on exactly the same path on each computer where you try to use lyx. Helge Hafting
Re: Inkscape SVG and LyX
Bernhard Roider wrote: Hi There! I've added a wiki entry that describes how to configure lyx to directly include svg images. See http://wiki.lyx.org/Tips/UseInkscapeSVGImages Any comments welcome. Nice work. Now, you might want to tell the developers list as well, perhaps they'll include this in a future release so users won't have to do this themselves anymore. Helge Hafting
Re: External Xfig inset conversion fails
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 13:32:17 +0200 From: Helge Hafting [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jean-Pierre Chretien [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Subject: Re: External Xfig inset conversion fails Just to get the obvious out of the way: You are aware that the .fig file isn't included into the .lyx file? I.e. you need to distribute both the .lyx and the .fig for this to work. That is why it is called an external inset - the file exist outside of lyx and referencing it does not change that fact. Also, this is easiest if the .fig is in the same directory as the .lyx, so that the .fig file is included without a path. If there is a path, then the .fig file must be placed on exactly the same path on each computer where you try to use lyx. Sure, I attached both the .lyx and the .fig files in the bug page. Just download (e.g. in /tmp) the .lyx file as (e.g.) platypus.lyx, the .fig file as (exactly) platypus.fig and check the path to clipart/platypus.eps in the .fig file (did not attach this one, it *should* be in any LyX installation, /usr/share/lyx/clipart with Debian, /usr/share/local/lyx/clipart here on Solaris). -- Jean-Pierre
Re: Inkscape SVG and LyX
On Thu, 2006-09-14 at 09:43 +, Bernhard Roider wrote: Hi Bernhard! I've added a wiki entry that describes how to configure lyx to directly include svg images. See http://wiki.lyx.org/Tips/UseInkscapeSVGImages Any comments welcome. Wonderful! I was thinking about that, but never had time do to it :-( But,now, I'll try it ;) What do you think about adding this stuff with default LyX? Sincerely, Gour ps. Linux script is missing. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Inkscape SVG and LyX
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 13:37:33 +0200 From: Helge Hafting [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Bernhard Roider [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Subject: Re: Inkscape SVG and LyX Bernhard Roider wrote: Hi There! I've added a wiki entry that describes how to configure lyx to directly include svg images. See http://wiki.lyx.org/Tips/UseInkscapeSVGImages Any comments welcome. Nice work. Now, you might want to tell the developers list as well, perhaps they'll include this in a future release so users won't have to do this themselves anymore. Would it be appropriate to add it to the list of external insets, if more sophisticated export scripting is requitred ? ipe files could be added this way too I guess. -- Jean-Pierre
Re: Inkscape SVG and LyX
it looks good. but inkscape have major problems exporting eps! there should be some warnings about this. search the lyx-users list for inkscape martin On 9/14/06, Jean-Pierre Chretien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 13:37:33 +0200 From: Helge Hafting [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Bernhard Roider [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Subject: Re: Inkscape SVG and LyX Bernhard Roider wrote: Hi There! I've added a wiki entry that describes how to configure lyx to directly include svg images. See http://wiki.lyx.org/Tips/UseInkscapeSVGImages Any comments welcome. Nice work. Now, you might want to tell the developers list as well, perhaps they'll include this in a future release so users won't have to do this themselves anymore. Would it be appropriate to add it to the list of external insets, if more sophisticated export scripting is requitred ? ipe files could be added this way too I guess. -- Jean-Pierre
Re: Inkscape SVG and LyX
Jean-Pierre Chretien wrote: Would it be appropriate to add it to the list of external insets, if more sophisticated export scripting is requitred ? ipe files could be added this way too I guess. An external inset may or may not be necessary. Graphichs conversions may be all you need you can convert to: .eps for processing with latex .png for displaying in lyx .pdf for processing with pdflatex A sophisticated export script is not a problem, these converters can be as complicated as you like. The external inset is nice in that it allows: * Specifying an editor for the format, you can click on an xfig inset to edit it. This may be useful for svg stuff. * More complicated ways of including the output, i.e. .fig is converted to a .eps and a .pstex_t, which are included using more complicated latex commands. Helge Hafting
Re: Inkscape SVG and LyX
On 9/14/06, Helge Hafting [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would it be appropriate to add it to the list of external insets, if more sophisticated export scripting is requitred ? ipe files could be added this way too I guess. An external inset may or may not be necessary. Graphichs conversions may be all you need you can convert to: .eps for processing with latex .png for displaying in lyx .pdf for processing with pdflatex A sophisticated export script is not a problem, these converters can be as complicated as you like. The external inset is nice in that it allows: * Specifying an editor for the format, you can click on an xfig inset to edit it. This may be useful for svg stuff. * More complicated ways of including the output, i.e. .fig is converted to a .eps and a .pstex_t, which are included using more complicated latex commands. There is something that may be relevant: it is possible to convert from SVG to Xfig format with pstoedit. With this approach, we can then edit the Xfig picture and edit the text with the special flag on, getting at last the text of the picture written with the default LaTeX font of the document. Paul
Re: Inkscape SVG and LyX
There is something that may be relevant: it is possible to convert from SVG to Xfig format with pstoedit. With this approach, we can then edit the Xfig picture and edit the text with the special flag on, getting at last the text of the picture written with the default LaTeX font of the document. This is indeed a strong incentive to use the Xfig inset IMHO. Anybody using ipe ? I installed it, but I'm short of time to test it. -- Jean-Pierre
Re: single spacing does not work
Urijah Kaplan wrote: Thank you for the reply; alas I am still not fully operational. Not to worry, I haven't been for years. ;-) I didn't have setspace.sty on my system (I did a full system search) so I went to the MikTeX package manager to download it. I downloaded it (after a few of the listed repositories bounced me for some reason) but when I went to the LaTeX Configuration 7.13 was a no, as were quite a few other packages (4.x 6.x 7.x I think) I decided to update MikTeX to 2.5 and see if that would help, no go. Sorry, I forgot to say that if you had to install setspace you would also have to reconfigure and restart LyX. I see you got there on your own eventually. I went to the LyX-Tools-Reconfigure and after many many pop-up to download files, it seems to have finished. I shut down LyX and restarted my computer. I went to LaTeX Configuration and Lo! there were many more yeses, including 7.13. I went to my little document (it's just three lines, nothing special) selected single spacing, tried to render to dvi, and now get a brand new error the package download pop-ups I saw when I reconfigured saying that the required file tex\latex\setspace\setspace.sty is missing and needs to be downloaded. I press install, it pops up again, the document renders, but without the single spacing I wanted. I close down yap, make a change (so I don't get the cached dvi) CTRL-D, and the same download pop-up appears. If I press cancel instead of install I get a pop-up that say an empty output file was generated click okay, get a familiar LaTeX error message that File 'setspace.sty' not found. By the way, I checked, and it *is* in the E:\texmf\tex\latex\setspace folder (E: is my boot drive.) Any suggestions? The pop-ups are coming from MikTeX, not LyX, so apparently MikTeX is confused about the status of setspace -- although if LyX has a yes next to it in the LaTeX Configuration page, it means that MikTeX knew it was there when LyX reconfigured. If you run 'kpsewhich setspace.sty' from a DOS prompt, does it find the copy in E:\...\setspace? You can try the following (although it shouldn't be necessary): Run the MikTeX Options program from the Start menu, and on the General tab click Refresh FNDB. (No restart or reconfiguring of LyX is required after this.) /Paul
installation on windows behind proxy
Dear list, I need some help. I am have installed LyX in an W2K PC with LyXWinInstaller. Since I am behind the company's proxy I need to manually install the Aspell dictionaries and some miktex-packages. How do I do that? Where do I put the aspell dics? How do I get koma-script, pdf, beamer integrated into my installation? BTW, some thoughts on the installer: There are documents included which use koma-script. But Koma-Script is not included in MikTeX. The complete Installer shouldn't have the need to install hings from the net. I will appreciate any help. Thanks and have a nice evening, Tim Michelsen -- Feel free - 10 GB Mailbox, 100 FreeSMS/Monat ... Jetzt GMX TopMail testen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/topmail
Install LyX on PcTEX (Windows)
Hi, I am Pedro Marrone. I need to know how I can install PCTeX on LyX. The point is that when I begin the installation program it asks me for a folder with LaTeX.exe and PCTeX does not use such a file. Instead it uses: C:\Program Files\PCTeX\PCTeXv5\tex -fmt=latex file.tex or this: C:\Program Files\PCTeX\PCTeXv5\tex latex file.tex How can I solve this problem? Thanks. Pedro A. Marrone G. Olimpiada Panameña de Matemática
Re: Inkscape SVG and LyX
Paul Smith wrote: On 9/14/06, Helge Hafting [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would it be appropriate to add it to the list of external insets, if more sophisticated export scripting is requitred ? ipe files could be added this way too I guess. An external inset may or may not be necessary. Graphichs conversions may be all you need you can convert to: .eps for processing with latex .png for displaying in lyx .pdf for processing with pdflatex A sophisticated export script is not a problem, these converters can be as complicated as you like. The external inset is nice in that it allows: * Specifying an editor for the format, you can click on an xfig inset to edit it. This may be useful for svg stuff. * More complicated ways of including the output, i.e. .fig is converted to a .eps and a .pstex_t, which are included using more complicated latex commands. There is something that may be relevant: it is possible to convert from SVG to Xfig format with pstoedit. With this approach, we can then edit the Xfig picture and edit the text with the special flag on, getting at last the text of the picture written with the default LaTeX font of the document. Paul I've tried to draw with xfig two or three times, and in my oppinion the user interface is realy awful! inkscape has a really feature rich interface and i can draw images there very quickly. inkscape runs on windows and unix systems - what about xfig? moreover, i do not like to add plain LaTeX to my images (which is done with those special flags if i got that right). why not support psfrag in lyx? as i wrote in the tips wiki, i use it now with ERTs. The big advantage would be, that i can write everything i want to typeset with LaTeX into the picture can be written with LyX. Bernhard
Re: Inkscape SVG and LyX
The external inset is nice in that it allows: * Specifying an editor for the format, you can click on an xfig inset to edit it. This may be useful for svg stuff. i just want to note that clicking on the image to edit it can also be done with the config i described bernhard
Re: installation on windows behind proxy
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear list, I need some help. I am have installed LyX in an W2K PC with LyXWinInstaller. Since I am behind the company's proxy I need to manually install the Aspell dictionaries and some miktex-packages. How do I do that? Where do I put the aspell dics? How do I get koma-script, pdf, beamer integrated into my installation? BTW, some thoughts on the installer: There are documents included which use koma-script. But Koma-Script is not included in MikTeX. The complete Installer shouldn't have the need to install hings from the net. I will appreciate any help. Thanks and have a nice evening, Tim Michelsen In the good olden days, users installed the helper apps before installing LyX, and then LyX would recognize them. You can download the helper apps at home and burn them onto a cd, and pre-install them before re-installing LyX, bypassing the firewall. However, if you don't have admin privileges as well, some of the programs will be installed with limitations. Regards, Stephen
Re: Inkscape SVG and LyX
On 9/14/06, Bernhard Roider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would it be appropriate to add it to the list of external insets, if more sophisticated export scripting is requitred ? ipe files could be added this way too I guess. An external inset may or may not be necessary. Graphichs conversions may be all you need you can convert to: .eps for processing with latex .png for displaying in lyx .pdf for processing with pdflatex A sophisticated export script is not a problem, these converters can be as complicated as you like. The external inset is nice in that it allows: * Specifying an editor for the format, you can click on an xfig inset to edit it. This may be useful for svg stuff. * More complicated ways of including the output, i.e. .fig is converted to a .eps and a .pstex_t, which are included using more complicated latex commands. There is something that may be relevant: it is possible to convert from SVG to Xfig format with pstoedit. With this approach, we can then edit the Xfig picture and edit the text with the special flag on, getting at last the text of the picture written with the default LaTeX font of the document. I've tried to draw with xfig two or three times, and in my oppinion the user interface is realy awful! inkscape has a really feature rich interface and i can draw images there very quickly. inkscape runs on windows and unix systems - what about xfig? moreover, i do not like to add plain LaTeX to my images (which is done with those special flags if i got that right). why not support psfrag in lyx? as i wrote in the tips wiki, i use it now with ERTs. The big advantage would be, that i can write everything i want to typeset with LaTeX into the picture can be written with LyX. I share your opinion regarding Xfig. However, I think that the best way to insert SVG pictures in LyX is through Xfig together with pstoedit. You will not really need to edit your Xfig picture with Xfig, as a simple text editor is able to change (almost at once) all needed special flags. Doing so, there is no need for using psfrag. However, if you feel comfortable with your way, just use it, as I am not campaigning for using my solution! Paul PS: Jfig (http://tams-www.informatik.uni-hamburg.de/applets/jfig/), a clone of Xfig, works on MS Windows.
ABNT Class
Hello. I want to use abnt class on LyX.The file abnt.layout is atC:\Arquivos de programas\LyX141\Resources\layouts , but LyX doesn't recognize it. What is wrong ? Thanks, -- Carlos Fernando Knauer
Re: Inkscape SVG and LyX
Paul Smith wrote: On 9/14/06, Bernhard Roider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would it be appropriate to add it to the list of external insets, if more sophisticated export scripting is requitred ? ipe files could be added this way too I guess. An external inset may or may not be necessary. Graphichs conversions may be all you need you can convert to: .eps for processing with latex .png for displaying in lyx .pdf for processing with pdflatex A sophisticated export script is not a problem, these converters can be as complicated as you like. The external inset is nice in that it allows: * Specifying an editor for the format, you can click on an xfig inset to edit it. This may be useful for svg stuff. * More complicated ways of including the output, i.e. .fig is converted to a .eps and a .pstex_t, which are included using more complicated latex commands. There is something that may be relevant: it is possible to convert from SVG to Xfig format with pstoedit. With this approach, we can then edit the Xfig picture and edit the text with the special flag on, getting at last the text of the picture written with the default LaTeX font of the document. I've tried to draw with xfig two or three times, and in my oppinion the user interface is realy awful! inkscape has a really feature rich interface and i can draw images there very quickly. inkscape runs on windows and unix systems - what about xfig? moreover, i do not like to add plain LaTeX to my images (which is done with those special flags if i got that right). why not support psfrag in lyx? as i wrote in the tips wiki, i use it now with ERTs. The big advantage would be, that i can write everything i want to typeset with LaTeX into the picture can be written with LyX. I share your opinion regarding Xfig. However, I think that the best way to insert SVG pictures in LyX is through Xfig together with pstoedit. You will not really need to edit your Xfig picture with Xfig, as a simple text editor is able to change (almost at once) all needed special flags. Doing so, there is no need for using psfrag. However, if you feel comfortable with your way, just use it, as I am not campaigning for using my solution! as i never tried your way i cannot really decide whats better. is it possible to typeset e.g. formulas within LyX and place them in the images that way?
Re: Inkscape SVG and LyX
On 9/14/06, Bernhard Roider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is something that may be relevant: it is possible to convert from SVG to Xfig format with pstoedit. With this approach, we can then edit the Xfig picture and edit the text with the special flag on, getting at last the text of the picture written with the default LaTeX font of the document. I've tried to draw with xfig two or three times, and in my oppinion the user interface is realy awful! inkscape has a really feature rich interface and i can draw images there very quickly. inkscape runs on windows and unix systems - what about xfig? moreover, i do not like to add plain LaTeX to my images (which is done with those special flags if i got that right). why not support psfrag in lyx? as i wrote in the tips wiki, i use it now with ERTs. The big advantage would be, that i can write everything i want to typeset with LaTeX into the picture can be written with LyX. I share your opinion regarding Xfig. However, I think that the best way to insert SVG pictures in LyX is through Xfig together with pstoedit. You will not really need to edit your Xfig picture with Xfig, as a simple text editor is able to change (almost at once) all needed special flags. Doing so, there is no need for using psfrag. However, if you feel comfortable with your way, just use it, as I am not campaigning for using my solution! as i never tried your way i cannot really decide whats better. is it possible to typeset e.g. formulas within LyX and place them in the images that way? No, but you can open your Xfig file with a text editor, and then you just replace, e.g., 'x' with '$x^2$' to get a math mode squared x. Alternatively, you can insert '$x^2$' directly in Inkscape, when you are drawing your picture. That is simple, I think. Paul
Re: ABNT Class
Carlos Knauer wrote: Hello. I want to use abnt class on LyX.The file abnt.layout is atC:\Arquivos de programas\LyX141\Resources\layouts , but LyX doesn't recognize it. What is wrong ? Thanks, Did you reconfigure LyX after installing the layout file? /Paul
Re: Inkscape SVG and LyX
Paul Smith wrote: On 9/14/06, Bernhard Roider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is something that may be relevant: it is possible to convert from SVG to Xfig format with pstoedit. With this approach, we can then edit the Xfig picture and edit the text with the special flag on, getting at last the text of the picture written with the default LaTeX font of the document. I've tried to draw with xfig two or three times, and in my oppinion the user interface is realy awful! inkscape has a really feature rich interface and i can draw images there very quickly. inkscape runs on windows and unix systems - what about xfig? moreover, i do not like to add plain LaTeX to my images (which is done with those special flags if i got that right). why not support psfrag in lyx? as i wrote in the tips wiki, i use it now with ERTs. The big advantage would be, that i can write everything i want to typeset with LaTeX into the picture can be written with LyX. I share your opinion regarding Xfig. However, I think that the best way to insert SVG pictures in LyX is through Xfig together with pstoedit. You will not really need to edit your Xfig picture with Xfig, as a simple text editor is able to change (almost at once) all needed special flags. Doing so, there is no need for using psfrag. However, if you feel comfortable with your way, just use it, as I am not campaigning for using my solution! as i never tried your way i cannot really decide whats better. is it possible to typeset e.g. formulas within LyX and place them in the images that way? No, but you can open your Xfig file with a text editor, and then you just replace, e.g., 'x' with '$x^2$' to get a math mode squared x. Alternatively, you can insert '$x^2$' directly in Inkscape, when you are drawing your picture. That is simple, I think. Paul Yes, but i don't want to typeset such (often much more complex) formulas by myself if i have such a great tool like lyx that supports me.
Re: Inkscape SVG and LyX
On 9/14/06, Bernhard Roider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is something that may be relevant: it is possible to convert from SVG to Xfig format with pstoedit. With this approach, we can then edit the Xfig picture and edit the text with the special flag on, getting at last the text of the picture written with the default LaTeX font of the document. I've tried to draw with xfig two or three times, and in my oppinion the user interface is realy awful! inkscape has a really feature rich interface and i can draw images there very quickly. inkscape runs on windows and unix systems - what about xfig? moreover, i do not like to add plain LaTeX to my images (which is done with those special flags if i got that right). why not support psfrag in lyx? as i wrote in the tips wiki, i use it now with ERTs. The big advantage would be, that i can write everything i want to typeset with LaTeX into the picture can be written with LyX. I share your opinion regarding Xfig. However, I think that the best way to insert SVG pictures in LyX is through Xfig together with pstoedit. You will not really need to edit your Xfig picture with Xfig, as a simple text editor is able to change (almost at once) all needed special flags. Doing so, there is no need for using psfrag. However, if you feel comfortable with your way, just use it, as I am not campaigning for using my solution! as i never tried your way i cannot really decide whats better. is it possible to typeset e.g. formulas within LyX and place them in the images that way? No, but you can open your Xfig file with a text editor, and then you just replace, e.g., 'x' with '$x^2$' to get a math mode squared x. Alternatively, you can insert '$x^2$' directly in Inkscape, when you are drawing your picture. That is simple, I think. Yes, but i don't want to typeset such (often much more complex) formulas by myself if i have such a great tool like lyx that supports me. If you have such a great tool, just use it :-) To be precise, when you copy a formula from LyX to a text editor, the latex code of the formula is pasted. And from a text editor, you can copy the code of your formula into Inkscape. Paul
[OT] problem with tables
Hello,
I am using booktab package for nice tables but I have
a problem with this when I need sideways tables.
If I put:
\floatplacement{table}{h}
\begin{table*}
\begin{tabular}
.
.
\end{tabular}
\end{table}
all work OK, table appears nice and in the site that I
want. But when I need to put table sideways I write:
\flotaplacement{table}{h}
\begin{sidewaystable*}
\begin{tabular}
.
.
\end{tabular}
\end{sidewaystable*}
Table appears at the end of chapter instead in the
section that I put ERT.
How I can make that this table appears in the section
that I want?
Thanks in advance.
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Re: Inkscape SVG and LyX
Paul Smith wrote: On 9/14/06, Bernhard Roider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is something that may be relevant: it is possible to convert from SVG to Xfig format with pstoedit. With this approach, we can then edit the Xfig picture and edit the text with the special flag on, getting at last the text of the picture written with the default LaTeX font of the document. I've tried to draw with xfig two or three times, and in my oppinion the user interface is realy awful! inkscape has a really feature rich interface and i can draw images there very quickly. inkscape runs on windows and unix systems - what about xfig? moreover, i do not like to add plain LaTeX to my images (which is done with those special flags if i got that right). why not support psfrag in lyx? as i wrote in the tips wiki, i use it now with ERTs. The big advantage would be, that i can write everything i want to typeset with LaTeX into the picture can be written with LyX. I share your opinion regarding Xfig. However, I think that the best way to insert SVG pictures in LyX is through Xfig together with pstoedit. You will not really need to edit your Xfig picture with Xfig, as a simple text editor is able to change (almost at once) all needed special flags. Doing so, there is no need for using psfrag. However, if you feel comfortable with your way, just use it, as I am not campaigning for using my solution! as i never tried your way i cannot really decide whats better. is it possible to typeset e.g. formulas within LyX and place them in the images that way? No, but you can open your Xfig file with a text editor, and then you just replace, e.g., 'x' with '$x^2$' to get a math mode squared x. Alternatively, you can insert '$x^2$' directly in Inkscape, when you are drawing your picture. That is simple, I think. Yes, but i don't want to typeset such (often much more complex) formulas by myself if i have such a great tool like lyx that supports me. If you have such a great tool, just use it :-) To be precise, when you copy a formula from LyX to a text editor, the latex code of the formula is pasted. And from a text editor, you can copy the code of your formula into Inkscape. Ah, i didn't know that copy/paste stuff works with lyx. it didn't in 1.3.x, did it? it's an option, but still i would prefer having all of the latex typesetting in a single file (or file type if i split a large document into several smaller parts). Managing formulas in images to match the ones in the main document is always more work i think. Another question: pstoedit converts .eps files to editable formats such as .fig, am i right? wouldn't there be a direct way to convert .svg to .fig? then we could circumvent inkscapes (not so good) .svg to .eps conversion. (even if i look forward that it will grow better) another idea: inkscape is in heavy development - maybe those special flags (i still don't know what these exactly are) can be included there without having to use intermediate file formats. bernhard
Re: Inkscape SVG and LyX
On 9/14/06, Bernhard Roider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ah, i didn't know that copy/paste stuff works with lyx. it didn't in 1.3.x, did it? it's an option, but still i would prefer having all of the latex typesetting in a single file (or file type if i split a large document into several smaller parts). Managing formulas in images to match the ones in the main document is always more work i think. Another question: pstoedit converts .eps files to editable formats such as .fig, am i right? wouldn't there be a direct way to convert .svg to .fig? then we could circumvent inkscapes (not so good) .svg to .eps conversion. (even if i look forward that it will grow better) another idea: inkscape is in heavy development - maybe those special flags (i still don't know what these exactly are) can be included there without having to use intermediate file formats. pstoedit does need an postscript file. What is wrong with Inscape conversion to EPS? I see people loosely complain about it, but I have not had any problem until now. Paul
Chapter title without 'Chapter'
I am writing a document as a book. I need to insert a Chapter but I do not want the 'Chapter 5' (for example) to be printed at the top of the first page of the chapter. Instead, it should only print 'My Title' (instead of Chapter 6 My Title). Any suggestions appreciated. Bob Concerned about your privacy? Instantly send FREE secure email, no account required http://www.hushmail.com/send?l=480 Get the best prices on SSL certificates from Hushmail https://www.hushssl.com?l=485
Omit table from appearing in list of tables
Is there an easy way to omit a table from appearing in the list of tables, but still having it remain in the text?
Re: single spacing does not work
Cheers-- I did everything you suggested, and there are no more error messages. Jeers-- It only kinda works. The original document rendered as dvi without complaint, but did not heed my single spacing instructions. I thought that might be something to do with my original file, so I made a new one with just three lines, and no other formatting but single spacing. It worked! But when I right, left, or center align it (with the paragraph dialog) it doesn't work (It double spaces, I think). It only works with the default alignment of justified. B! Is there any kind of example LyX document with different formatting tests? For all I know there might be many other problems with my installation preventing documents from rendering correctly. Thanks so much for your help. (And no, I was not fully operational either even before using LyX.) --Urijah
Fwd: Re: Historical question
Dear Anders, this might interest you (history of Lyx) Wolfgang -- Weitergeleitete Nachricht -- Subject: Re: Historical question Date: Mittwoch, 13. September 2006 22:50 From: Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Dear Wolfgang, Thanks. I can understand most of the text. I started to study german ;) I will contact him. It is very strange for me, that I could not find info how old is this wonderful tool! I prefer to put it onto the website, when it is known. Alex Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: Am Mittwoch, 13. September 2006 21:37 schrieb Alex: Hi! I would like to know when was the development of LyX started? I could find 0.8.0 dated to 21st of dec, 1995. But when was it first announced or released to the public? Alex you might like to contact Matthias Ettrich who is currently at Trolltech in Oslo (N). He should know, since he started Lyx as a seminar work. In case you need translation of the following, let me know Wolfgang http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthias_Ettrich aus Wikipedia, der freien Enzyklopädie Wechseln zu: Navigation, Suche Matthias Ettrich auf dem LinuxTag 2005 vergrößern Matthias Ettrich auf dem LinuxTag 2005 Matthias Ettrich (* 14. Juni 1972 in Bietigheim, Deutschland) ist ein deutscher Informatiker und der Initiator des KDE-Projekts, indem er 1996 eine konsistente, nette und freie Desktop-Umgebung [sic] [1] für Unix im Usenet in Angriff nahm, die auf dem Qt-GUI-Toolkit basiert. Seit 1995 ist der deutsche Programmierer ebenso Autor des grafischen TeX-Frontends LyX, das er als Student zur Abfassung seiner Seminararbeiten als Semesterarbeit entwickelte. Da LyX hauptsächlich für Linux gedacht war, versuchte er, die Linux Desktop Umgebung für Anwender zu vereinfachen. Die Einsicht, dass dies nur über Vereinheitlichung möglich sei, führte schließlich zur Gründung des KDE-Projektes. Er studierte am Wilhelm-Schickard-Institut für Informatik an der Eberhard-Karls-Universität Tübingen und arbeitet zur Zeit bei Trolltech in Oslo an der Weiterentwicklung von Qt, der Toolkit-Basis von KDE. --- -- - Wolfgang Engelmann Schlossgartenstrasse 22 D-72070 Tübingen Tel 07071 68325
Re: Historical question
Oh, no, I don't still use that version. But I got more involved after I found the program (who here remembers when Matthias called it LyriX?) I think he called it first Lynx - which was already used... Wolfgang The name was changed because someone contacted Matthias threatening to sue, that name having been taken for a word processor of some sort.
Fwd: Re: Historical question
Subject: Fwd: Re: Historical question Date: Donnerstag, 14. September 2006 08:27 From: Wolfgang Engelmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Cc: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org sorry for a miss-directed letter Wolfgang
Re: single spacing does not work
Thank you for the reply; alas I am still not fully operational. I didn't have setspace.sty on my system (I did a full system search) so I went to the MikTeX package manager to download it. I downloaded it (after a few of the listed repositories bounced me for some reason) but when I went to the LaTeX Configuration 7.13 was a no, as were quite a few other packages (4.x 6.x 7.x I think) I decided to update MikTeX to 2.5 and see if that would help, no go. I went to the LyX-Tools-Reconfigure and after many many pop-up to download files, it seems to have finished. I shut down LyX and restarted my computer. I went to LaTeX Configuration and Lo! there were many more yeses, including 7.13. I went to my little document (it's just three lines, nothing special) selected single spacing, tried to render to dvi, and now get a brand new error the package download pop-ups I saw when I reconfigured saying that the required file tex\latex\setspace\setspace.sty is missing and needs to be downloaded. I press install, it pops up again, the document renders, but without the single spacing I wanted. I close down yap, make a change (so I don't get the cached dvi) CTRL-D, and the same download pop-up appears. If I press cancel instead of install I get a pop-up that say an empty output file was generated click okay, get a familiar LaTeX error message that File 'setspace.sty' not found. By the way, I checked, and it *is* in the E:\texmf\tex\latex\setspace folder (E: is my boot drive.) Any suggestions?
Inkscape SVG and LyX
Hi There! I've added a wiki entry that describes how to configure lyx to directly include svg images. See http://wiki.lyx.org/Tips/UseInkscapeSVGImages Any comments welcome. Bernhard
Re: External Xfig inset conversion fails
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 22:05:51 +0100 From: Paul Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Subject: Re: External Xfig inset conversion fails On 9/13/06, Jean-Pierre Chretien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: External insets conversions works well for me and not for colleagues (LyX complained about the pstex_t file not found in the document dir). It seems that this comes from the fact that I launch LyX from a command shell while others launch from the file manager (I created an association between the file type and the application on the Solaris application server). I can reproduce it by launching from a mail attachment. Is this an explanation, and is this behaviour known ? I see nothing in bugzilla. LyX-1.4.2-qt/Solaris I do not use Solaris, but something similar to what you describe occurs if I try to insert the *.pstex and not the *.fig file itself. Are you sure that your colleagues are not doing that? The output from the *same* file loaded from the command shell and from the file manager (dtfile) is OK with the first method and fails with the second one. I filed a bug (#2838) with a minimal test example. -- Jean-Pierre
Re: External Xfig inset conversion fails
Jean-Pierre Chretien wrote: Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 22:05:51 +0100 From: Paul Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Subject: Re: External Xfig inset conversion fails On 9/13/06, Jean-Pierre Chretien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: External insets conversions works well for me and not for colleagues (LyX complained about the pstex_t file not found in the document dir). It seems that this comes from the fact that I launch LyX from a command shell while others launch from the file manager (I created an association between the file type and the application on the Solaris application server). I can reproduce it by launching from a mail attachment. Is this an explanation, and is this behaviour known ? I see nothing in bugzilla. LyX-1.4.2-qt/Solaris I do not use Solaris, but something similar to what you describe occurs if I try to insert the *.pstex and not the *.fig file itself. Are you sure that your colleagues are not doing that? The output from the *same* file loaded from the command shell and from the file manager (dtfile) is OK with the first method and fails with the second one. I filed a bug (#2838) with a minimal test example. Just to get the obvious out of the way: You are aware that the .fig file isn't included into the .lyx file? I.e. you need to distribute both the .lyx and the .fig for this to work. That is why it is called an external inset - the file exist outside of lyx and referencing it does not change that fact. Also, this is easiest if the .fig is in the same directory as the .lyx, so that the .fig file is included without a path. If there is a path, then the .fig file must be placed on exactly the same path on each computer where you try to use lyx. Helge Hafting
Re: Inkscape SVG and LyX
Bernhard Roider wrote: Hi There! I've added a wiki entry that describes how to configure lyx to directly include svg images. See http://wiki.lyx.org/Tips/UseInkscapeSVGImages Any comments welcome. Nice work. Now, you might want to tell the developers list as well, perhaps they'll include this in a future release so users won't have to do this themselves anymore. Helge Hafting
Re: External Xfig inset conversion fails
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 13:32:17 +0200 From: Helge Hafting [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jean-Pierre Chretien [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Subject: Re: External Xfig inset conversion fails Just to get the obvious out of the way: You are aware that the .fig file isn't included into the .lyx file? I.e. you need to distribute both the .lyx and the .fig for this to work. That is why it is called an external inset - the file exist outside of lyx and referencing it does not change that fact. Also, this is easiest if the .fig is in the same directory as the .lyx, so that the .fig file is included without a path. If there is a path, then the .fig file must be placed on exactly the same path on each computer where you try to use lyx. Sure, I attached both the .lyx and the .fig files in the bug page. Just download (e.g. in /tmp) the .lyx file as (e.g.) platypus.lyx, the .fig file as (exactly) platypus.fig and check the path to clipart/platypus.eps in the .fig file (did not attach this one, it *should* be in any LyX installation, /usr/share/lyx/clipart with Debian, /usr/share/local/lyx/clipart here on Solaris). -- Jean-Pierre
Re: Inkscape SVG and LyX
On Thu, 2006-09-14 at 09:43 +, Bernhard Roider wrote: Hi Bernhard! I've added a wiki entry that describes how to configure lyx to directly include svg images. See http://wiki.lyx.org/Tips/UseInkscapeSVGImages Any comments welcome. Wonderful! I was thinking about that, but never had time do to it :-( But,now, I'll try it ;) What do you think about adding this stuff with default LyX? Sincerely, Gour ps. Linux script is missing. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Inkscape SVG and LyX
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 13:37:33 +0200 From: Helge Hafting [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Bernhard Roider [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Subject: Re: Inkscape SVG and LyX Bernhard Roider wrote: Hi There! I've added a wiki entry that describes how to configure lyx to directly include svg images. See http://wiki.lyx.org/Tips/UseInkscapeSVGImages Any comments welcome. Nice work. Now, you might want to tell the developers list as well, perhaps they'll include this in a future release so users won't have to do this themselves anymore. Would it be appropriate to add it to the list of external insets, if more sophisticated export scripting is requitred ? ipe files could be added this way too I guess. -- Jean-Pierre
Re: Inkscape SVG and LyX
it looks good. but inkscape have major problems exporting eps! there should be some warnings about this. search the lyx-users list for inkscape martin On 9/14/06, Jean-Pierre Chretien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 13:37:33 +0200 From: Helge Hafting [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Bernhard Roider [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Subject: Re: Inkscape SVG and LyX Bernhard Roider wrote: Hi There! I've added a wiki entry that describes how to configure lyx to directly include svg images. See http://wiki.lyx.org/Tips/UseInkscapeSVGImages Any comments welcome. Nice work. Now, you might want to tell the developers list as well, perhaps they'll include this in a future release so users won't have to do this themselves anymore. Would it be appropriate to add it to the list of external insets, if more sophisticated export scripting is requitred ? ipe files could be added this way too I guess. -- Jean-Pierre
Re: Inkscape SVG and LyX
Jean-Pierre Chretien wrote: Would it be appropriate to add it to the list of external insets, if more sophisticated export scripting is requitred ? ipe files could be added this way too I guess. An external inset may or may not be necessary. Graphichs conversions may be all you need you can convert to: .eps for processing with latex .png for displaying in lyx .pdf for processing with pdflatex A sophisticated export script is not a problem, these converters can be as complicated as you like. The external inset is nice in that it allows: * Specifying an editor for the format, you can click on an xfig inset to edit it. This may be useful for svg stuff. * More complicated ways of including the output, i.e. .fig is converted to a .eps and a .pstex_t, which are included using more complicated latex commands. Helge Hafting
Re: Inkscape SVG and LyX
On 9/14/06, Helge Hafting [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would it be appropriate to add it to the list of external insets, if more sophisticated export scripting is requitred ? ipe files could be added this way too I guess. An external inset may or may not be necessary. Graphichs conversions may be all you need you can convert to: .eps for processing with latex .png for displaying in lyx .pdf for processing with pdflatex A sophisticated export script is not a problem, these converters can be as complicated as you like. The external inset is nice in that it allows: * Specifying an editor for the format, you can click on an xfig inset to edit it. This may be useful for svg stuff. * More complicated ways of including the output, i.e. .fig is converted to a .eps and a .pstex_t, which are included using more complicated latex commands. There is something that may be relevant: it is possible to convert from SVG to Xfig format with pstoedit. With this approach, we can then edit the Xfig picture and edit the text with the special flag on, getting at last the text of the picture written with the default LaTeX font of the document. Paul
Re: Inkscape SVG and LyX
There is something that may be relevant: it is possible to convert from SVG to Xfig format with pstoedit. With this approach, we can then edit the Xfig picture and edit the text with the special flag on, getting at last the text of the picture written with the default LaTeX font of the document. This is indeed a strong incentive to use the Xfig inset IMHO. Anybody using ipe ? I installed it, but I'm short of time to test it. -- Jean-Pierre
Re: single spacing does not work
Urijah Kaplan wrote: Thank you for the reply; alas I am still not fully operational. Not to worry, I haven't been for years. ;-) I didn't have setspace.sty on my system (I did a full system search) so I went to the MikTeX package manager to download it. I downloaded it (after a few of the listed repositories bounced me for some reason) but when I went to the LaTeX Configuration 7.13 was a no, as were quite a few other packages (4.x 6.x 7.x I think) I decided to update MikTeX to 2.5 and see if that would help, no go. Sorry, I forgot to say that if you had to install setspace you would also have to reconfigure and restart LyX. I see you got there on your own eventually. I went to the LyX-Tools-Reconfigure and after many many pop-up to download files, it seems to have finished. I shut down LyX and restarted my computer. I went to LaTeX Configuration and Lo! there were many more yeses, including 7.13. I went to my little document (it's just three lines, nothing special) selected single spacing, tried to render to dvi, and now get a brand new error the package download pop-ups I saw when I reconfigured saying that the required file tex\latex\setspace\setspace.sty is missing and needs to be downloaded. I press install, it pops up again, the document renders, but without the single spacing I wanted. I close down yap, make a change (so I don't get the cached dvi) CTRL-D, and the same download pop-up appears. If I press cancel instead of install I get a pop-up that say an empty output file was generated click okay, get a familiar LaTeX error message that File 'setspace.sty' not found. By the way, I checked, and it *is* in the E:\texmf\tex\latex\setspace folder (E: is my boot drive.) Any suggestions? The pop-ups are coming from MikTeX, not LyX, so apparently MikTeX is confused about the status of setspace -- although if LyX has a yes next to it in the LaTeX Configuration page, it means that MikTeX knew it was there when LyX reconfigured. If you run 'kpsewhich setspace.sty' from a DOS prompt, does it find the copy in E:\...\setspace? You can try the following (although it shouldn't be necessary): Run the MikTeX Options program from the Start menu, and on the General tab click Refresh FNDB. (No restart or reconfiguring of LyX is required after this.) /Paul
installation on windows behind proxy
Dear list, I need some help. I am have installed LyX in an W2K PC with LyXWinInstaller. Since I am behind the company's proxy I need to manually install the Aspell dictionaries and some miktex-packages. How do I do that? Where do I put the aspell dics? How do I get koma-script, pdf, beamer integrated into my installation? BTW, some thoughts on the installer: There are documents included which use koma-script. But Koma-Script is not included in MikTeX. The complete Installer shouldn't have the need to install hings from the net. I will appreciate any help. Thanks and have a nice evening, Tim Michelsen -- Feel free - 10 GB Mailbox, 100 FreeSMS/Monat ... Jetzt GMX TopMail testen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/topmail
Install LyX on PcTEX (Windows)
Hi, I am Pedro Marrone. I need to know how I can install PCTeX on LyX. The point is that when I begin the installation program it asks me for a folder with LaTeX.exe and PCTeX does not use such a file. Instead it uses: C:\Program Files\PCTeX\PCTeXv5\tex -fmt=latex file.tex or this: C:\Program Files\PCTeX\PCTeXv5\tex latex file.tex How can I solve this problem? Thanks. Pedro A. Marrone G. Olimpiada Panameña de Matemática
Re: Inkscape SVG and LyX
Paul Smith wrote: On 9/14/06, Helge Hafting [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would it be appropriate to add it to the list of external insets, if more sophisticated export scripting is requitred ? ipe files could be added this way too I guess. An external inset may or may not be necessary. Graphichs conversions may be all you need you can convert to: .eps for processing with latex .png for displaying in lyx .pdf for processing with pdflatex A sophisticated export script is not a problem, these converters can be as complicated as you like. The external inset is nice in that it allows: * Specifying an editor for the format, you can click on an xfig inset to edit it. This may be useful for svg stuff. * More complicated ways of including the output, i.e. .fig is converted to a .eps and a .pstex_t, which are included using more complicated latex commands. There is something that may be relevant: it is possible to convert from SVG to Xfig format with pstoedit. With this approach, we can then edit the Xfig picture and edit the text with the special flag on, getting at last the text of the picture written with the default LaTeX font of the document. Paul I've tried to draw with xfig two or three times, and in my oppinion the user interface is realy awful! inkscape has a really feature rich interface and i can draw images there very quickly. inkscape runs on windows and unix systems - what about xfig? moreover, i do not like to add plain LaTeX to my images (which is done with those special flags if i got that right). why not support psfrag in lyx? as i wrote in the tips wiki, i use it now with ERTs. The big advantage would be, that i can write everything i want to typeset with LaTeX into the picture can be written with LyX. Bernhard
Re: Inkscape SVG and LyX
The external inset is nice in that it allows: * Specifying an editor for the format, you can click on an xfig inset to edit it. This may be useful for svg stuff. i just want to note that clicking on the image to edit it can also be done with the config i described bernhard
Re: installation on windows behind proxy
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear list, I need some help. I am have installed LyX in an W2K PC with LyXWinInstaller. Since I am behind the company's proxy I need to manually install the Aspell dictionaries and some miktex-packages. How do I do that? Where do I put the aspell dics? How do I get koma-script, pdf, beamer integrated into my installation? BTW, some thoughts on the installer: There are documents included which use koma-script. But Koma-Script is not included in MikTeX. The complete Installer shouldn't have the need to install hings from the net. I will appreciate any help. Thanks and have a nice evening, Tim Michelsen In the good olden days, users installed the helper apps before installing LyX, and then LyX would recognize them. You can download the helper apps at home and burn them onto a cd, and pre-install them before re-installing LyX, bypassing the firewall. However, if you don't have admin privileges as well, some of the programs will be installed with limitations. Regards, Stephen
Re: Inkscape SVG and LyX
On 9/14/06, Bernhard Roider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would it be appropriate to add it to the list of external insets, if more sophisticated export scripting is requitred ? ipe files could be added this way too I guess. An external inset may or may not be necessary. Graphichs conversions may be all you need you can convert to: .eps for processing with latex .png for displaying in lyx .pdf for processing with pdflatex A sophisticated export script is not a problem, these converters can be as complicated as you like. The external inset is nice in that it allows: * Specifying an editor for the format, you can click on an xfig inset to edit it. This may be useful for svg stuff. * More complicated ways of including the output, i.e. .fig is converted to a .eps and a .pstex_t, which are included using more complicated latex commands. There is something that may be relevant: it is possible to convert from SVG to Xfig format with pstoedit. With this approach, we can then edit the Xfig picture and edit the text with the special flag on, getting at last the text of the picture written with the default LaTeX font of the document. I've tried to draw with xfig two or three times, and in my oppinion the user interface is realy awful! inkscape has a really feature rich interface and i can draw images there very quickly. inkscape runs on windows and unix systems - what about xfig? moreover, i do not like to add plain LaTeX to my images (which is done with those special flags if i got that right). why not support psfrag in lyx? as i wrote in the tips wiki, i use it now with ERTs. The big advantage would be, that i can write everything i want to typeset with LaTeX into the picture can be written with LyX. I share your opinion regarding Xfig. However, I think that the best way to insert SVG pictures in LyX is through Xfig together with pstoedit. You will not really need to edit your Xfig picture with Xfig, as a simple text editor is able to change (almost at once) all needed special flags. Doing so, there is no need for using psfrag. However, if you feel comfortable with your way, just use it, as I am not campaigning for using my solution! Paul PS: Jfig (http://tams-www.informatik.uni-hamburg.de/applets/jfig/), a clone of Xfig, works on MS Windows.
ABNT Class
Hello. I want to use abnt class on LyX.The file abnt.layout is atC:\Arquivos de programas\LyX141\Resources\layouts , but LyX doesn't recognize it. What is wrong ? Thanks, -- Carlos Fernando Knauer
Re: Inkscape SVG and LyX
Paul Smith wrote: On 9/14/06, Bernhard Roider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would it be appropriate to add it to the list of external insets, if more sophisticated export scripting is requitred ? ipe files could be added this way too I guess. An external inset may or may not be necessary. Graphichs conversions may be all you need you can convert to: .eps for processing with latex .png for displaying in lyx .pdf for processing with pdflatex A sophisticated export script is not a problem, these converters can be as complicated as you like. The external inset is nice in that it allows: * Specifying an editor for the format, you can click on an xfig inset to edit it. This may be useful for svg stuff. * More complicated ways of including the output, i.e. .fig is converted to a .eps and a .pstex_t, which are included using more complicated latex commands. There is something that may be relevant: it is possible to convert from SVG to Xfig format with pstoedit. With this approach, we can then edit the Xfig picture and edit the text with the special flag on, getting at last the text of the picture written with the default LaTeX font of the document. I've tried to draw with xfig two or three times, and in my oppinion the user interface is realy awful! inkscape has a really feature rich interface and i can draw images there very quickly. inkscape runs on windows and unix systems - what about xfig? moreover, i do not like to add plain LaTeX to my images (which is done with those special flags if i got that right). why not support psfrag in lyx? as i wrote in the tips wiki, i use it now with ERTs. The big advantage would be, that i can write everything i want to typeset with LaTeX into the picture can be written with LyX. I share your opinion regarding Xfig. However, I think that the best way to insert SVG pictures in LyX is through Xfig together with pstoedit. You will not really need to edit your Xfig picture with Xfig, as a simple text editor is able to change (almost at once) all needed special flags. Doing so, there is no need for using psfrag. However, if you feel comfortable with your way, just use it, as I am not campaigning for using my solution! as i never tried your way i cannot really decide whats better. is it possible to typeset e.g. formulas within LyX and place them in the images that way?
Re: Inkscape SVG and LyX
On 9/14/06, Bernhard Roider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is something that may be relevant: it is possible to convert from SVG to Xfig format with pstoedit. With this approach, we can then edit the Xfig picture and edit the text with the special flag on, getting at last the text of the picture written with the default LaTeX font of the document. I've tried to draw with xfig two or three times, and in my oppinion the user interface is realy awful! inkscape has a really feature rich interface and i can draw images there very quickly. inkscape runs on windows and unix systems - what about xfig? moreover, i do not like to add plain LaTeX to my images (which is done with those special flags if i got that right). why not support psfrag in lyx? as i wrote in the tips wiki, i use it now with ERTs. The big advantage would be, that i can write everything i want to typeset with LaTeX into the picture can be written with LyX. I share your opinion regarding Xfig. However, I think that the best way to insert SVG pictures in LyX is through Xfig together with pstoedit. You will not really need to edit your Xfig picture with Xfig, as a simple text editor is able to change (almost at once) all needed special flags. Doing so, there is no need for using psfrag. However, if you feel comfortable with your way, just use it, as I am not campaigning for using my solution! as i never tried your way i cannot really decide whats better. is it possible to typeset e.g. formulas within LyX and place them in the images that way? No, but you can open your Xfig file with a text editor, and then you just replace, e.g., 'x' with '$x^2$' to get a math mode squared x. Alternatively, you can insert '$x^2$' directly in Inkscape, when you are drawing your picture. That is simple, I think. Paul
Re: ABNT Class
Carlos Knauer wrote: Hello. I want to use abnt class on LyX.The file abnt.layout is atC:\Arquivos de programas\LyX141\Resources\layouts , but LyX doesn't recognize it. What is wrong ? Thanks, Did you reconfigure LyX after installing the layout file? /Paul
Re: Inkscape SVG and LyX
Paul Smith wrote: On 9/14/06, Bernhard Roider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is something that may be relevant: it is possible to convert from SVG to Xfig format with pstoedit. With this approach, we can then edit the Xfig picture and edit the text with the special flag on, getting at last the text of the picture written with the default LaTeX font of the document. I've tried to draw with xfig two or three times, and in my oppinion the user interface is realy awful! inkscape has a really feature rich interface and i can draw images there very quickly. inkscape runs on windows and unix systems - what about xfig? moreover, i do not like to add plain LaTeX to my images (which is done with those special flags if i got that right). why not support psfrag in lyx? as i wrote in the tips wiki, i use it now with ERTs. The big advantage would be, that i can write everything i want to typeset with LaTeX into the picture can be written with LyX. I share your opinion regarding Xfig. However, I think that the best way to insert SVG pictures in LyX is through Xfig together with pstoedit. You will not really need to edit your Xfig picture with Xfig, as a simple text editor is able to change (almost at once) all needed special flags. Doing so, there is no need for using psfrag. However, if you feel comfortable with your way, just use it, as I am not campaigning for using my solution! as i never tried your way i cannot really decide whats better. is it possible to typeset e.g. formulas within LyX and place them in the images that way? No, but you can open your Xfig file with a text editor, and then you just replace, e.g., 'x' with '$x^2$' to get a math mode squared x. Alternatively, you can insert '$x^2$' directly in Inkscape, when you are drawing your picture. That is simple, I think. Paul Yes, but i don't want to typeset such (often much more complex) formulas by myself if i have such a great tool like lyx that supports me.
Re: Inkscape SVG and LyX
On 9/14/06, Bernhard Roider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is something that may be relevant: it is possible to convert from SVG to Xfig format with pstoedit. With this approach, we can then edit the Xfig picture and edit the text with the special flag on, getting at last the text of the picture written with the default LaTeX font of the document. I've tried to draw with xfig two or three times, and in my oppinion the user interface is realy awful! inkscape has a really feature rich interface and i can draw images there very quickly. inkscape runs on windows and unix systems - what about xfig? moreover, i do not like to add plain LaTeX to my images (which is done with those special flags if i got that right). why not support psfrag in lyx? as i wrote in the tips wiki, i use it now with ERTs. The big advantage would be, that i can write everything i want to typeset with LaTeX into the picture can be written with LyX. I share your opinion regarding Xfig. However, I think that the best way to insert SVG pictures in LyX is through Xfig together with pstoedit. You will not really need to edit your Xfig picture with Xfig, as a simple text editor is able to change (almost at once) all needed special flags. Doing so, there is no need for using psfrag. However, if you feel comfortable with your way, just use it, as I am not campaigning for using my solution! as i never tried your way i cannot really decide whats better. is it possible to typeset e.g. formulas within LyX and place them in the images that way? No, but you can open your Xfig file with a text editor, and then you just replace, e.g., 'x' with '$x^2$' to get a math mode squared x. Alternatively, you can insert '$x^2$' directly in Inkscape, when you are drawing your picture. That is simple, I think. Yes, but i don't want to typeset such (often much more complex) formulas by myself if i have such a great tool like lyx that supports me. If you have such a great tool, just use it :-) To be precise, when you copy a formula from LyX to a text editor, the latex code of the formula is pasted. And from a text editor, you can copy the code of your formula into Inkscape. Paul
[OT] problem with tables
Hello,
I am using booktab package for nice tables but I have
a problem with this when I need sideways tables.
If I put:
\floatplacement{table}{h}
\begin{table*}
\begin{tabular}
.
.
\end{tabular}
\end{table}
all work OK, table appears nice and in the site that I
want. But when I need to put table sideways I write:
\flotaplacement{table}{h}
\begin{sidewaystable*}
\begin{tabular}
.
.
\end{tabular}
\end{sidewaystable*}
Table appears at the end of chapter instead in the
section that I put ERT.
How I can make that this table appears in the section
that I want?
Thanks in advance.
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Re: Inkscape SVG and LyX
Paul Smith wrote: On 9/14/06, Bernhard Roider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is something that may be relevant: it is possible to convert from SVG to Xfig format with pstoedit. With this approach, we can then edit the Xfig picture and edit the text with the special flag on, getting at last the text of the picture written with the default LaTeX font of the document. I've tried to draw with xfig two or three times, and in my oppinion the user interface is realy awful! inkscape has a really feature rich interface and i can draw images there very quickly. inkscape runs on windows and unix systems - what about xfig? moreover, i do not like to add plain LaTeX to my images (which is done with those special flags if i got that right). why not support psfrag in lyx? as i wrote in the tips wiki, i use it now with ERTs. The big advantage would be, that i can write everything i want to typeset with LaTeX into the picture can be written with LyX. I share your opinion regarding Xfig. However, I think that the best way to insert SVG pictures in LyX is through Xfig together with pstoedit. You will not really need to edit your Xfig picture with Xfig, as a simple text editor is able to change (almost at once) all needed special flags. Doing so, there is no need for using psfrag. However, if you feel comfortable with your way, just use it, as I am not campaigning for using my solution! as i never tried your way i cannot really decide whats better. is it possible to typeset e.g. formulas within LyX and place them in the images that way? No, but you can open your Xfig file with a text editor, and then you just replace, e.g., 'x' with '$x^2$' to get a math mode squared x. Alternatively, you can insert '$x^2$' directly in Inkscape, when you are drawing your picture. That is simple, I think. Yes, but i don't want to typeset such (often much more complex) formulas by myself if i have such a great tool like lyx that supports me. If you have such a great tool, just use it :-) To be precise, when you copy a formula from LyX to a text editor, the latex code of the formula is pasted. And from a text editor, you can copy the code of your formula into Inkscape. Ah, i didn't know that copy/paste stuff works with lyx. it didn't in 1.3.x, did it? it's an option, but still i would prefer having all of the latex typesetting in a single file (or file type if i split a large document into several smaller parts). Managing formulas in images to match the ones in the main document is always more work i think. Another question: pstoedit converts .eps files to editable formats such as .fig, am i right? wouldn't there be a direct way to convert .svg to .fig? then we could circumvent inkscapes (not so good) .svg to .eps conversion. (even if i look forward that it will grow better) another idea: inkscape is in heavy development - maybe those special flags (i still don't know what these exactly are) can be included there without having to use intermediate file formats. bernhard
Re: Inkscape SVG and LyX
On 9/14/06, Bernhard Roider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ah, i didn't know that copy/paste stuff works with lyx. it didn't in 1.3.x, did it? it's an option, but still i would prefer having all of the latex typesetting in a single file (or file type if i split a large document into several smaller parts). Managing formulas in images to match the ones in the main document is always more work i think. Another question: pstoedit converts .eps files to editable formats such as .fig, am i right? wouldn't there be a direct way to convert .svg to .fig? then we could circumvent inkscapes (not so good) .svg to .eps conversion. (even if i look forward that it will grow better) another idea: inkscape is in heavy development - maybe those special flags (i still don't know what these exactly are) can be included there without having to use intermediate file formats. pstoedit does need an postscript file. What is wrong with Inscape conversion to EPS? I see people loosely complain about it, but I have not had any problem until now. Paul
Chapter title without 'Chapter'
I am writing a document as a book. I need to insert a Chapter but I do not want the 'Chapter 5' (for example) to be printed at the top of the first page of the chapter. Instead, it should only print 'My Title' (instead of Chapter 6 My Title). Any suggestions appreciated. Bob Concerned about your privacy? Instantly send FREE secure email, no account required http://www.hushmail.com/send?l=480 Get the best prices on SSL certificates from Hushmail https://www.hushssl.com?l=485
Omit table from appearing in list of tables
Is there an easy way to omit a table from appearing in the list of tables, but still having it remain in the text?
Re: single spacing does not work
Cheers-- I did everything you suggested, and there are no more error messages. Jeers-- It only kinda works. The original document rendered as dvi without complaint, but did not heed my single spacing instructions. I thought that might be something to do with my original file, so I made a new one with just three lines, and no other formatting but single spacing. It worked! But when I right, left, or center align it (with the paragraph dialog) it doesn't work (It double spaces, I think). It only works with the default alignment of justified. B! Is there any kind of example LyX document with different formatting tests? For all I know there might be many other problems with my installation preventing documents from rendering correctly. Thanks so much for your help. (And no, I was not fully operational either even before using LyX.) --Urijah
Fwd: Re: Historical question
Dear Anders, this might interest you (history of Lyx) Wolfgang -- Weitergeleitete Nachricht -- Subject: Re: Historical question Date: Mittwoch, 13. September 2006 22:50 From: Alex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Dear Wolfgang, Thanks. I can understand most of the text. I started to study german ;) I will contact him. It is very strange for me, that I could not find info how old is this wonderful tool! I prefer to put it onto the website, when it is known. Alex Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: > Am Mittwoch, 13. September 2006 21:37 schrieb Alex: >> Hi! >> >> I would like to know when was the development of LyX started? >> >> I could find 0.8.0 dated to 21st of dec, 1995. >> >> But when was it first announced or released to the public? >> >> Alex > > you might like to contact Matthias Ettrich who is currently at Trolltech in > Oslo (N). He should know, since he started Lyx as a seminar work. In case > you need translation of the following, let me know > > Wolfgang > > http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthias_Ettrich > aus Wikipedia, der freien Enzyklopädie > Wechseln zu: Navigation, Suche > Matthias Ettrich auf dem LinuxTag 2005 > vergrößern > Matthias Ettrich auf dem LinuxTag 2005 > > Matthias Ettrich (* 14. Juni 1972 in Bietigheim, Deutschland) ist ein > deutscher Informatiker und der Initiator des KDE-Projekts, indem er 1996 > eine "konsistente, nette und freie Desktop-Umgebung" [sic] [1] für Unix im > Usenet in Angriff nahm, die auf dem Qt-GUI-Toolkit basiert. > > Seit 1995 ist der deutsche Programmierer ebenso Autor des grafischen > TeX-Frontends LyX, das er als Student zur Abfassung seiner Seminararbeiten > als Semesterarbeit entwickelte. Da LyX hauptsächlich für Linux gedacht war, > versuchte er, die Linux Desktop Umgebung für Anwender zu vereinfachen. Die > Einsicht, dass dies nur über Vereinheitlichung möglich sei, führte > schließlich zur Gründung des KDE-Projektes. > > Er studierte am Wilhelm-Schickard-Institut für Informatik an der > Eberhard-Karls-Universität Tübingen und arbeitet zur Zeit bei Trolltech in > Oslo an der Weiterentwicklung von Qt, der Toolkit-Basis von KDE. --- -- - Wolfgang Engelmann Schlossgartenstrasse 22 D-72070 Tübingen Tel 07071 68325
Re: Historical question
> Oh, no, I don't still use that version. But I got more involved after I > found the program (who here remembers when Matthias called it "LyriX"?) I think he called it first Lynx - which was already used... Wolfgang > The name was changed because someone contacted Matthias threatening to sue, > that name having been taken for a word processor of some sort.
Fwd: Re: Historical question
Subject: Fwd: Re: Historical question Date: Donnerstag, 14. September 2006 08:27 From: Wolfgang Engelmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Cc: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org sorry for a miss-directed letter Wolfgang
Re: single spacing does not work
Thank you for the reply; alas I am still not fully operational. I didn't have setspace.sty on my system (I did a full system search) so I went to the MikTeX package manager to download it. I downloaded it (after a few of the listed repositories bounced me for some reason) but when I went to the LaTeX Configuration 7.13 was a no, as were quite a few other packages (4.x 6.x 7.x I think) I decided to update MikTeX to 2.5 and see if that would help, no go. I went to the LyX->Tools->Reconfigure and after many many pop-up to download files, it seems to have finished. I shut down LyX and restarted my computer. I went to LaTeX Configuration and Lo! there were many more yeses, including 7.13. I went to my little document (it's just three lines, nothing special) selected single spacing, tried to render to dvi, and now get a brand new error the package download pop-ups I saw when I "reconfigured" saying that the required file "tex\latex\setspace\setspace.sty" is missing and needs to be downloaded. I press install, it pops up again, the document renders, but without the single spacing I wanted. I close down yap, make a change (so I don't get the cached dvi) CTRL-D, and the same download pop-up appears. If I press cancel instead of install I get a pop-up that say "an empty output file was generated" click okay, get a familiar LaTeX error message that File 'setspace.sty' not found. By the way, I checked, and it *is* in the E:\texmf\tex\latex\setspace folder (E: is my boot drive.) Any suggestions?
Inkscape SVG and LyX
Hi There! I've added a wiki entry that describes how to configure lyx to directly include svg images. See http://wiki.lyx.org/Tips/UseInkscapeSVGImages Any comments welcome. Bernhard
Re: External Xfig inset conversion fails
>>Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 22:05:51 +0100 >>From: "Paul Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org >>Subject: Re: External Xfig inset conversion fails >> >>On 9/13/06, Jean-Pierre Chretien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> External insets conversions works well for me and not for colleagues >>> (LyX complained about the pstex_t file not found in the document dir). >>> >>> It seems that this comes from the fact that I launch LyX from a command >>> shell >>> while others launch from the file manager (I created an association between >>> the file >>> type and the application on the Solaris application server). >>> I can reproduce it by launching from a mail attachment. >>> >>> Is this an explanation, and is this behaviour known ? I see nothing in >>> bugzilla. >>> LyX-1.4.2-qt/Solaris >> >>I do not use Solaris, but something similar to what you describe >>occurs if I try to insert the *.pstex and not the *.fig file itself. >>Are you sure that your colleagues are not doing that? The output from the *same* file loaded from the command shell and from the file manager (dtfile) is OK with the first method and fails with the second one. I filed a bug (#2838) with a minimal test example. -- Jean-Pierre
Re: External Xfig inset conversion fails
Jean-Pierre Chretien wrote: Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 22:05:51 +0100 From: "Paul Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Subject: Re: External Xfig inset conversion fails On 9/13/06, Jean-Pierre Chretien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: External insets conversions works well for me and not for colleagues (LyX complained about the pstex_t file not found in the document dir). It seems that this comes from the fact that I launch LyX from a command shell while others launch from the file manager (I created an association between the file type and the application on the Solaris application server). I can reproduce it by launching from a mail attachment. Is this an explanation, and is this behaviour known ? I see nothing in bugzilla. LyX-1.4.2-qt/Solaris I do not use Solaris, but something similar to what you describe occurs if I try to insert the *.pstex and not the *.fig file itself. Are you sure that your colleagues are not doing that? The output from the *same* file loaded from the command shell and from the file manager (dtfile) is OK with the first method and fails with the second one. I filed a bug (#2838) with a minimal test example. Just to get the obvious out of the way: You are aware that the .fig file isn't included into the .lyx file? I.e. you need to distribute both the .lyx and the .fig for this to work. That is why it is called an "external" inset - the file exist outside of lyx and referencing it does not change that fact. Also, this is easiest if the .fig is in the same directory as the .lyx, so that the .fig file is included without a path. If there is a path, then the .fig file must be placed on exactly the same path on each computer where you try to use lyx. Helge Hafting
Re: Inkscape SVG and LyX
Bernhard Roider wrote: Hi There! I've added a wiki entry that describes how to configure lyx to directly include svg images. See http://wiki.lyx.org/Tips/UseInkscapeSVGImages Any comments welcome. Nice work. Now, you might want to tell the developers list as well, perhaps they'll include this in a future release so users won't have to do this themselves anymore. Helge Hafting
Re: External Xfig inset conversion fails
>>Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 13:32:17 +0200 >>From: Helge Hafting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: Jean-Pierre Chretien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>CC: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org >>Subject: Re: External Xfig inset conversion fails >>Just to get the obvious out of the way: >>You are aware that the .fig file isn't included into the .lyx file? >>I.e. you need to distribute both the .lyx and the .fig for this to work. >>That is why it is called an "external" inset - the file exist outside of >>lyx and referencing it does not change that fact. >> >>Also, this is easiest if the .fig is in the same directory as the .lyx, >>so that the .fig file is included without a path. If there is a path, >>then the .fig file must be placed on exactly the same path >>on each computer where you try to use lyx. Sure, I attached both the .lyx and the .fig files in the bug page. Just download (e.g. in /tmp) the .lyx file as (e.g.) platypus.lyx, the .fig file as (exactly) platypus.fig and check the path to clipart/platypus.eps in the .fig file (did not attach this one, it *should* be in any LyX installation, /usr/share/lyx/clipart with Debian, /usr/share/local/lyx/clipart here on Solaris). -- Jean-Pierre
Re: Inkscape SVG and LyX
On Thu, 2006-09-14 at 09:43 +, Bernhard Roider wrote: Hi Bernhard! > I've added a wiki entry that describes how to configure lyx to directly > include svg images. See > > http://wiki.lyx.org/Tips/UseInkscapeSVGImages > > Any comments welcome. Wonderful! I was thinking about that, but never had time do to it :-( But,now, I'll try it ;) What do you think about adding this stuff with default LyX? Sincerely, Gour ps. Linux script is missing. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Inkscape SVG and LyX
>>Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 13:37:33 +0200 >>From: Helge Hafting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: Bernhard Roider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>CC: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org >>Subject: Re: Inkscape SVG and LyX >> >>Bernhard Roider wrote: >>> Hi There! >>> >>> I've added a wiki entry that describes how to configure lyx to directly >>> include svg images. See >>> >>> http://wiki.lyx.org/Tips/UseInkscapeSVGImages >>> >>> Any comments welcome. >>> >>Nice work. Now, you might want to tell the developers list as well, >>perhaps they'll include this in a future release so users won't >>have to do this themselves anymore. Would it be appropriate to add it to the list of external insets, if more sophisticated export scripting is requitred ? ipe files could be added this way too I guess. -- Jean-Pierre
Re: Inkscape SVG and LyX
it looks good. but inkscape have major problems exporting eps! there should be some warnings about this. search the lyx-users list for inkscape martin On 9/14/06, Jean-Pierre Chretien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 13:37:33 +0200 >>From: Helge Hafting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: Bernhard Roider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>CC: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org >>Subject: Re: Inkscape SVG and LyX >> >>Bernhard Roider wrote: >>> Hi There! >>> >>> I've added a wiki entry that describes how to configure lyx to directly include svg images. See >>> >>> http://wiki.lyx.org/Tips/UseInkscapeSVGImages >>> >>> Any comments welcome. >>> >>Nice work. Now, you might want to tell the developers list as well, >>perhaps they'll include this in a future release so users won't >>have to do this themselves anymore. Would it be appropriate to add it to the list of external insets, if more sophisticated export scripting is requitred ? ipe files could be added this way too I guess. -- Jean-Pierre
Re: Inkscape SVG and LyX
Jean-Pierre Chretien wrote: Would it be appropriate to add it to the list of external insets, if more sophisticated export scripting is requitred ? ipe files could be added this way too I guess. An external inset may or may not be necessary. Graphichs conversions may be all you need you can convert to: .eps for processing with latex .png for displaying in lyx .pdf for processing with pdflatex A sophisticated export script is not a problem, these converters can be as complicated as you like. The external inset is nice in that it allows: * Specifying an editor for the format, you can click on an xfig inset to edit it. This may be useful for svg stuff. * More complicated ways of including the output, i.e. .fig is converted to a .eps and a .pstex_t, which are included using more complicated latex commands. Helge Hafting
Re: Inkscape SVG and LyX
On 9/14/06, Helge Hafting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Would it be appropriate to add it to the list of external insets, if more sophisticated > export scripting is requitred ? > ipe files could be added this way too I guess. > An external inset may or may not be necessary. Graphichs conversions may be all you need you can convert to: .eps for processing with latex .png for displaying in lyx .pdf for processing with pdflatex A sophisticated export script is not a problem, these converters can be as complicated as you like. The external inset is nice in that it allows: * Specifying an editor for the format, you can click on an xfig inset to edit it. This may be useful for svg stuff. * More complicated ways of including the output, i.e. .fig is converted to a .eps and a .pstex_t, which are included using more complicated latex commands. There is something that may be relevant: it is possible to convert from SVG to Xfig format with pstoedit. With this approach, we can then edit the Xfig picture and edit the text with the special flag on, getting at last the text of the picture written with the default LaTeX font of the document. Paul
Re: Inkscape SVG and LyX
>>There is something that may be relevant: it is possible to convert >>from SVG to Xfig format with pstoedit. With this approach, we can then >>edit the Xfig picture and edit the text with the special flag on, >>getting at last the text of the picture written with the default LaTeX >>font of the document. This is indeed a strong incentive to use the Xfig inset IMHO. Anybody using ipe ? I installed it, but I'm short of time to test it. -- Jean-Pierre
Re: single spacing does not work
Urijah Kaplan wrote: Thank you for the reply; alas I am still not fully operational. Not to worry, I haven't been for years. ;-) I didn't have setspace.sty on my system (I did a full system search) so I went to the MikTeX package manager to download it. I downloaded it (after a few of the listed repositories bounced me for some reason) but when I went to the LaTeX Configuration 7.13 was a no, as were quite a few other packages (4.x 6.x 7.x I think) I decided to update MikTeX to 2.5 and see if that would help, no go. Sorry, I forgot to say that if you had to install setspace you would also have to reconfigure and restart LyX. I see you got there on your own eventually. > I went to the LyX->Tools->Reconfigure and after many many pop-up to download files, it seems to have finished. I shut down LyX and restarted my computer. I went to LaTeX Configuration and Lo! there were many more yeses, including 7.13. I went to my little document (it's just three lines, nothing special) selected single spacing, tried to render to dvi, and now get a brand new error the package download pop-ups I saw when I "reconfigured" saying that the required file "tex\latex\setspace\setspace.sty" is missing and needs to be downloaded. I press install, it pops up again, the document renders, but without the single spacing I wanted. I close down yap, make a change (so I don't get the cached dvi) CTRL-D, and the same download pop-up appears. If I press cancel instead of install I get a pop-up that say "an empty output file was generated" click okay, get a familiar LaTeX error message that File 'setspace.sty' not found. By the way, I checked, and it *is* in the E:\texmf\tex\latex\setspace folder (E: is my boot drive.) Any suggestions? The pop-ups are coming from MikTeX, not LyX, so apparently MikTeX is confused about the status of setspace -- although if LyX has a yes next to it in the LaTeX Configuration page, it means that MikTeX knew it was there when LyX reconfigured. If you run 'kpsewhich setspace.sty' from a DOS prompt, does it find the copy in E:\...\setspace? You can try the following (although it shouldn't be necessary): Run the MikTeX Options program from the Start menu, and on the General tab click Refresh FNDB. (No restart or reconfiguring of LyX is required after this.) /Paul
installation on windows behind proxy
Dear list, I need some help. I am have installed LyX in an W2K PC with "LyXWinInstaller". Since I am behind the company's proxy I need to manually install the Aspell dictionaries and some miktex-packages. How do I do that? Where do I put the aspell dics? How do I get koma-script, pdf, beamer integrated into my installation? BTW, some thoughts on the installer: There are documents included which use koma-script. But Koma-Script is not included in MikTeX. The complete Installer shouldn't have the need to install hings from the net. I will appreciate any help. Thanks and have a nice evening, Tim Michelsen -- "Feel free" - 10 GB Mailbox, 100 FreeSMS/Monat ... Jetzt GMX TopMail testen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/topmail
Install LyX on PcTEX (Windows)
Hi, I am Pedro Marrone. I need to know how I can install PCTeX on LyX. The point is that when I begin the installation program it asks me for a folder with LaTeX.exe and PCTeX does not use such a file. Instead it uses: C:\Program Files\PCTeX\PCTeXv5\tex -fmt=latex file.tex or this: C:\Program Files\PCTeX\PCTeXv5\tex "" file.tex How can I solve this problem? Thanks. Pedro A. Marrone G. Olimpiada Panameña de Matemática
Re: Inkscape SVG and LyX
Paul Smith wrote: On 9/14/06, Helge Hafting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Would it be appropriate to add it to the list of external insets, if more sophisticated > export scripting is requitred ? > ipe files could be added this way too I guess. > An external inset may or may not be necessary. Graphichs conversions may be all you need you can convert to: .eps for processing with latex .png for displaying in lyx .pdf for processing with pdflatex A sophisticated export script is not a problem, these converters can be as complicated as you like. The external inset is nice in that it allows: * Specifying an editor for the format, you can click on an xfig inset to edit it. This may be useful for svg stuff. * More complicated ways of including the output, i.e. .fig is converted to a .eps and a .pstex_t, which are included using more complicated latex commands. There is something that may be relevant: it is possible to convert from SVG to Xfig format with pstoedit. With this approach, we can then edit the Xfig picture and edit the text with the special flag on, getting at last the text of the picture written with the default LaTeX font of the document. Paul I've tried to draw with xfig two or three times, and in my oppinion the user interface is realy awful! inkscape has a really feature rich interface and i can draw images there very quickly. inkscape runs on windows and unix systems - what about xfig? moreover, i do not like to add plain LaTeX to my images (which is done with those special flags if i got that right). why not support psfrag in lyx? as i wrote in the tips wiki, i use it now with ERTs. The big advantage would be, that i can write everything i want to typeset with LaTeX into the picture can be written with LyX. Bernhard
Re: Inkscape SVG and LyX
The external inset is nice in that it allows: * Specifying an editor for the format, you can click on an xfig inset to edit it. This may be useful for svg stuff. i just want to note that clicking on the image to edit it can also be done with the config i described bernhard
Re: installation on windows behind proxy
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear list, I need some help. I am have installed LyX in an W2K PC with "LyXWinInstaller". Since I am behind the company's proxy I need to manually install the Aspell dictionaries and some miktex-packages. How do I do that? Where do I put the aspell dics? How do I get koma-script, pdf, beamer integrated into my installation? BTW, some thoughts on the installer: There are documents included which use koma-script. But Koma-Script is not included in MikTeX. The complete Installer shouldn't have the need to install hings from the net. I will appreciate any help. Thanks and have a nice evening, Tim Michelsen In the good olden days, users installed the helper apps before installing LyX, and then LyX would recognize them. You can download the helper apps at home and burn them onto a cd, and pre-install them before re-installing LyX, bypassing the firewall. However, if you don't have admin privileges as well, some of the programs will be installed with limitations. Regards, Stephen
Re: Inkscape SVG and LyX
On 9/14/06, Bernhard Roider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > Would it be appropriate to add it to the list of external insets, >> if more sophisticated >> > export scripting is requitred ? >> > ipe files could be added this way too I guess. >> > >> An external inset may or may not be necessary. >> Graphichs conversions may be all you need you can convert to: >> .eps for processing with latex >> .png for displaying in lyx >> .pdf for processing with pdflatex >> >> A sophisticated export script is not a problem, these converters >> can be as complicated as you like. >> >> The external inset is nice in that it allows: >> * Specifying an editor for the format, you can click on >>an xfig inset to edit it. This may be useful for svg stuff. >> * More complicated ways of including the output, i.e. >>.fig is converted to a .eps and a .pstex_t, which are >>included using more complicated latex commands. > > There is something that may be relevant: it is possible to convert > from SVG to Xfig format with pstoedit. With this approach, we can then > edit the Xfig picture and edit the text with the special flag on, > getting at last the text of the picture written with the default LaTeX > font of the document. > I've tried to draw with xfig two or three times, and in my oppinion the user interface is realy awful! inkscape has a really feature rich interface and i can draw images there very quickly. inkscape runs on windows and unix systems - what about xfig? moreover, i do not like to add plain LaTeX to my images (which is done with those special flags if i got that right). why not support psfrag in lyx? as i wrote in the tips wiki, i use it now with ERTs. The big advantage would be, that i can write everything i want to typeset with LaTeX into the picture can be written with LyX. I share your opinion regarding Xfig. However, I think that the best way to insert SVG pictures in LyX is through Xfig together with pstoedit. You will not really need to edit your Xfig picture with Xfig, as a simple text editor is able to change (almost at once) all needed special flags. Doing so, there is no need for using psfrag. However, if you feel comfortable with your way, just use it, as I am not campaigning for using my solution! Paul PS: Jfig (http://tams-www.informatik.uni-hamburg.de/applets/jfig/), a clone of Xfig, works on MS Windows.
ABNT Class
Hello. I want to use "abnt class" on LyX.The file "abnt.layout" is atC:\Arquivos de programas\LyX141\Resources\layouts , but LyX doesn't recognize it. What is wrong ? Thanks, -- Carlos Fernando Knauer
Re: Inkscape SVG and LyX
Paul Smith wrote: On 9/14/06, Bernhard Roider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > Would it be appropriate to add it to the list of external insets, >> if more sophisticated >> > export scripting is requitred ? >> > ipe files could be added this way too I guess. >> > >> An external inset may or may not be necessary. >> Graphichs conversions may be all you need you can convert to: >> .eps for processing with latex >> .png for displaying in lyx >> .pdf for processing with pdflatex >> >> A sophisticated export script is not a problem, these converters >> can be as complicated as you like. >> >> The external inset is nice in that it allows: >> * Specifying an editor for the format, you can click on >>an xfig inset to edit it. This may be useful for svg stuff. >> * More complicated ways of including the output, i.e. >>.fig is converted to a .eps and a .pstex_t, which are >>included using more complicated latex commands. > > There is something that may be relevant: it is possible to convert > from SVG to Xfig format with pstoedit. With this approach, we can then > edit the Xfig picture and edit the text with the special flag on, > getting at last the text of the picture written with the default LaTeX > font of the document. > I've tried to draw with xfig two or three times, and in my oppinion the user interface is realy awful! inkscape has a really feature rich interface and i can draw images there very quickly. inkscape runs on windows and unix systems - what about xfig? moreover, i do not like to add plain LaTeX to my images (which is done with those special flags if i got that right). why not support psfrag in lyx? as i wrote in the tips wiki, i use it now with ERTs. The big advantage would be, that i can write everything i want to typeset with LaTeX into the picture can be written with LyX. I share your opinion regarding Xfig. However, I think that the best way to insert SVG pictures in LyX is through Xfig together with pstoedit. You will not really need to edit your Xfig picture with Xfig, as a simple text editor is able to change (almost at once) all needed special flags. Doing so, there is no need for using psfrag. However, if you feel comfortable with your way, just use it, as I am not campaigning for using my solution! as i never tried your way i cannot really decide whats better. is it possible to typeset e.g. formulas within LyX and place them in the images that way?
Re: Inkscape SVG and LyX
On 9/14/06, Bernhard Roider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > There is something that may be relevant: it is possible to convert >> > from SVG to Xfig format with pstoedit. With this approach, we can then >> > edit the Xfig picture and edit the text with the special flag on, >> > getting at last the text of the picture written with the default LaTeX >> > font of the document. >> > >> I've tried to draw with xfig two or three times, and in my oppinion the >> user interface is realy awful! inkscape has a really feature rich >> interface and i can draw images there very quickly. inkscape runs on >> windows and unix systems - what about xfig? moreover, i do not like to >> add plain LaTeX to my images (which is done with those special flags if >> i got that right). why not support psfrag in lyx? as i wrote in the tips >> wiki, i use it now with ERTs. The big advantage would be, that i can >> write everything i want to typeset with LaTeX into the picture can be >> written with LyX. > > I share your opinion regarding Xfig. However, I think that the best > way to insert SVG pictures in LyX is through Xfig together with > pstoedit. You will not really need to edit your Xfig picture with > Xfig, as a simple text editor is able to change (almost at once) all > needed special flags. Doing so, there is no need for using psfrag. > However, if you feel comfortable with your way, just use it, as I am > not campaigning for using my solution! as i never tried your way i cannot really decide whats better. is it possible to typeset e.g. formulas within LyX and place them in the images that way? No, but you can open your Xfig file with a text editor, and then you just replace, e.g., 'x' with '$x^2$' to get a math mode squared x. Alternatively, you can insert '$x^2$' directly in Inkscape, when you are drawing your picture. That is simple, I think. Paul
Re: ABNT Class
Carlos Knauer wrote: Hello. I want to use "abnt class" on LyX.The file "abnt.layout" is atC:\Arquivos de programas\LyX141\Resources\layouts , but LyX doesn't recognize it. What is wrong ? Thanks, Did you reconfigure LyX after installing the layout file? /Paul
Re: Inkscape SVG and LyX
Paul Smith wrote: On 9/14/06, Bernhard Roider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > There is something that may be relevant: it is possible to convert >> > from SVG to Xfig format with pstoedit. With this approach, we can then >> > edit the Xfig picture and edit the text with the special flag on, >> > getting at last the text of the picture written with the default LaTeX >> > font of the document. >> > >> I've tried to draw with xfig two or three times, and in my oppinion the >> user interface is realy awful! inkscape has a really feature rich >> interface and i can draw images there very quickly. inkscape runs on >> windows and unix systems - what about xfig? moreover, i do not like to >> add plain LaTeX to my images (which is done with those special flags if >> i got that right). why not support psfrag in lyx? as i wrote in the tips >> wiki, i use it now with ERTs. The big advantage would be, that i can >> write everything i want to typeset with LaTeX into the picture can be >> written with LyX. > > I share your opinion regarding Xfig. However, I think that the best > way to insert SVG pictures in LyX is through Xfig together with > pstoedit. You will not really need to edit your Xfig picture with > Xfig, as a simple text editor is able to change (almost at once) all > needed special flags. Doing so, there is no need for using psfrag. > However, if you feel comfortable with your way, just use it, as I am > not campaigning for using my solution! as i never tried your way i cannot really decide whats better. is it possible to typeset e.g. formulas within LyX and place them in the images that way? No, but you can open your Xfig file with a text editor, and then you just replace, e.g., 'x' with '$x^2$' to get a math mode squared x. Alternatively, you can insert '$x^2$' directly in Inkscape, when you are drawing your picture. That is simple, I think. Paul Yes, but i don't want to typeset such (often much more complex) formulas by myself if i have such a great tool like lyx that supports me.
Re: Inkscape SVG and LyX
On 9/14/06, Bernhard Roider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> > There is something that may be relevant: it is possible to convert >> >> > from SVG to Xfig format with pstoedit. With this approach, we >> can then >> >> > edit the Xfig picture and edit the text with the special flag on, >> >> > getting at last the text of the picture written with the default >> LaTeX >> >> > font of the document. >> >> > >> >> I've tried to draw with xfig two or three times, and in my >> oppinion the >> >> user interface is realy awful! inkscape has a really feature rich >> >> interface and i can draw images there very quickly. inkscape runs on >> >> windows and unix systems - what about xfig? moreover, i do not >> like to >> >> add plain LaTeX to my images (which is done with those special >> flags if >> >> i got that right). why not support psfrag in lyx? as i wrote in >> the tips >> >> wiki, i use it now with ERTs. The big advantage would be, that i can >> >> write everything i want to typeset with LaTeX into the picture can be >> >> written with LyX. >> > >> > I share your opinion regarding Xfig. However, I think that the best >> > way to insert SVG pictures in LyX is through Xfig together with >> > pstoedit. You will not really need to edit your Xfig picture with >> > Xfig, as a simple text editor is able to change (almost at once) all >> > needed special flags. Doing so, there is no need for using psfrag. >> > However, if you feel comfortable with your way, just use it, as I am >> > not campaigning for using my solution! >> as i never tried your way i cannot really decide whats better. is it >> possible to typeset e.g. formulas within LyX and place them in the >> images that way? > > No, but you can open your Xfig file with a text editor, and then you > just replace, e.g., 'x' with '$x^2$' to get a math mode squared x. > Alternatively, you can insert '$x^2$' directly in Inkscape, when you > are drawing your picture. That is simple, I think. > Yes, but i don't want to typeset such (often much more complex) formulas by myself if i have such a great tool like lyx that supports me. If you have such a great tool, just use it :-) To be precise, when you copy a formula from LyX to a text editor, the latex code of the formula is pasted. And from a text editor, you can copy the code of your formula into Inkscape. Paul
[OT] problem with tables
Hello,
I am using booktab package for nice tables but I have
a problem with this when I need sideways tables.
If I put:
\floatplacement{table}{h}
\begin{table*}
\begin{tabular}
.
.
\end{tabular}
\end{table}
all work OK, table appears nice and in the site that I
want. But when I need to put table sideways I write:
\flotaplacement{table}{h}
\begin{sidewaystable*}
\begin{tabular}
.
.
\end{tabular}
\end{sidewaystable*}
Table appears at the end of chapter instead in the
section that I put ERT.
How I can make that this table appears in the section
that I want?
Thanks in advance.
Marcelo
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Re: Inkscape SVG and LyX
Paul Smith wrote: On 9/14/06, Bernhard Roider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> > There is something that may be relevant: it is possible to convert >> >> > from SVG to Xfig format with pstoedit. With this approach, we >> can then >> >> > edit the Xfig picture and edit the text with the special flag on, >> >> > getting at last the text of the picture written with the default >> LaTeX >> >> > font of the document. >> >> > >> >> I've tried to draw with xfig two or three times, and in my >> oppinion the >> >> user interface is realy awful! inkscape has a really feature rich >> >> interface and i can draw images there very quickly. inkscape runs on >> >> windows and unix systems - what about xfig? moreover, i do not >> like to >> >> add plain LaTeX to my images (which is done with those special >> flags if >> >> i got that right). why not support psfrag in lyx? as i wrote in >> the tips >> >> wiki, i use it now with ERTs. The big advantage would be, that i can >> >> write everything i want to typeset with LaTeX into the picture can be >> >> written with LyX. >> > >> > I share your opinion regarding Xfig. However, I think that the best >> > way to insert SVG pictures in LyX is through Xfig together with >> > pstoedit. You will not really need to edit your Xfig picture with >> > Xfig, as a simple text editor is able to change (almost at once) all >> > needed special flags. Doing so, there is no need for using psfrag. >> > However, if you feel comfortable with your way, just use it, as I am >> > not campaigning for using my solution! >> as i never tried your way i cannot really decide whats better. is it >> possible to typeset e.g. formulas within LyX and place them in the >> images that way? > > No, but you can open your Xfig file with a text editor, and then you > just replace, e.g., 'x' with '$x^2$' to get a math mode squared x. > Alternatively, you can insert '$x^2$' directly in Inkscape, when you > are drawing your picture. That is simple, I think. > Yes, but i don't want to typeset such (often much more complex) formulas by myself if i have such a great tool like lyx that supports me. If you have such a great tool, just use it :-) To be precise, when you copy a formula from LyX to a text editor, the latex code of the formula is pasted. And from a text editor, you can copy the code of your formula into Inkscape. Ah, i didn't know that copy/paste stuff works with lyx. it didn't in 1.3.x, did it? it's an option, but still i would prefer having all of the latex typesetting in a single file (or file type if i split a large document into several smaller parts). Managing formulas in images to match the ones in the main document is always more work i think. Another question: pstoedit converts .eps files to editable formats such as .fig, am i right? wouldn't there be a direct way to convert .svg to .fig? then we could circumvent inkscapes (not so good) .svg to .eps conversion. (even if i look forward that it will grow better) another idea: inkscape is in heavy development - maybe those special flags (i still don't know what these exactly are) can be included there without having to use intermediate file formats. bernhard
Re: Inkscape SVG and LyX
On 9/14/06, Bernhard Roider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ah, i didn't know that copy/paste stuff works with lyx. it didn't in 1.3.x, did it? it's an option, but still i would prefer having all of the latex typesetting in a single file (or file type if i split a large document into several smaller parts). Managing formulas in images to match the ones in the main document is always more work i think. Another question: pstoedit converts .eps files to editable formats such as .fig, am i right? wouldn't there be a direct way to convert .svg to .fig? then we could circumvent inkscapes (not so good) .svg to .eps conversion. (even if i look forward that it will grow better) another idea: inkscape is in heavy development - maybe those special flags (i still don't know what these exactly are) can be included there without having to use intermediate file formats. pstoedit does need an postscript file. What is wrong with Inscape conversion to EPS? I see people loosely complain about it, but I have not had any problem until now. Paul
Chapter title without 'Chapter'
I am writing a document as a book. I need to insert a Chapter but I do not want the 'Chapter 5' (for example) to be printed at the top of the first page of the chapter. Instead, it should only print 'My Title' (instead of Chapter 6 My Title). Any suggestions appreciated. Bob Concerned about your privacy? Instantly send FREE secure email, no account required http://www.hushmail.com/send?l=480 Get the best prices on SSL certificates from Hushmail https://www.hushssl.com?l=485
