Re: conversion to open doc format and tables
Maria Gouskova wrote: Does anyone know why conversion from LyX to Open Document format adds blank rows to tables? I'd say about three extra blank rows in the Open Doc file for each row in the original LyX document. Even when the simplest table is converted, an extra cell is added at the bottom. Mac OS 10.5.3, LyX 1.5.5 This is a bug in tex4ht, the LaTeX to ODT converter. Is there any way around this? I just submitted a bug report to the tex4ht maintainer, and he informed me that he will look into the problem. Jürgen
Re: greek fonts
On 10.06.08, Pavel Sanda wrote: On 10.06.08, Pavel Sanda wrote: now the next step :) i see latex error that utf8x.def file is missing. Where you able to select utf8x font encoding from the LyX gui? i dont think this is possible. My mistake. You cannot choose font encoding from lyx. It should have read *input encoding* which in lyx is available under DocumentSettingsLanguageEncoding which was set to utf8x in your previous file. Normally LyX checks the package availability for any extensions, so this might count as a (minor) LyX bug, no i dont have this package locally, so its not lyx problem. It is a lyx problem if you can actively set DocumentSettingsLanguageEncoding to utf8x while the package ucs (and hence utf8x.def) is not installed. Could you test whether you can change the encoding to something else and back to utf8x (before installing ucs)? Of course it is not a lyx problem, if you can open view and edit my file even if it specifies an encoding your system does not support. ;-) Günter
Re: pgf and external table plot
[referencing external file inside ERT] It occurs to me that a simpler solution might be to put an absolute reference to the file in the ERT. LyX still will not copy it to the temp directory, but it won't need to. Hmm that makes sense, good idea :) Is there a way to have the absolute path where the source lyx files reside expanded by a macro or somehow? - Willem
Re: pgf and external table plot
Willem van Engen wrote: [referencing external file inside ERT] It occurs to me that a simpler solution might be to put an absolute reference to the file in the ERT. LyX still will not copy it to the temp directory, but it won't need to. Hmm that makes sense, good idea :) Is there a way to have the absolute path where the source lyx files reside expanded by a macro or somehow? Not in 1.5 AFAIK, in 1.6 you'll have InsetInfo for that kind of information. Abdel.
Re: greek fonts
Normally LyX checks the package availability for any extensions, so this might count as a (minor) LyX bug, no i dont have this package locally, so its not lyx problem. It is a lyx problem if you can actively set DocumentSettingsLanguageEncoding to utf8x while the package ucs (and hence utf8x.def) is not installed. Could you test whether you can change the encoding to something else and back to utf8x (before installing ucs)? yes i can. anyway i think you should be able to select encoding for which your tex distribution hasn't support, because at least editing works and and in some cases that is enough. pavel
Re: greek fonts
On 10 Jun 2008, G. Milde wrote: On 10.06.08, Anthony Campbell wrote: I tried to use Lyx for ancient Greek but the circumflex (tilde) keeps appearing before the letter instead of above it. In most fonts, even in the Standard glyph list of the Unicode consortium and fonts from the Greek Font Society, the accents are written before the letter for capital letters and over the letter for small letters. All the accents appear correctly over the letters except for the circumflex (tilde). But in plain Latex the circumlex is correct. Could you post a *small* example file (lyx and tex)? Günter 1. Greek lyx: can you send it as a normal attachment? pavel
Re: greek fonts
On 10 Jun 2008, G. Milde wrote:
On 10.06.08, Anthony Campbell wrote:
I tried to use Lyx for ancient Greek but the circumflex (tilde)
keeps
appearing before the letter instead of above it.
In most fonts, even in the Standard glyph list of the Unicode
consortium and fonts from the Greek Font Society, the accents are written
before the letter for capital letters and over the letter for small
letters.
All the accents appear correctly over the letters except for the
circumflex (tilde). But in plain Latex the circumlex is correct.
Could you post a *small* example file (lyx and tex)?
Günter
1. Greek lyx:
#LyX 1.5.5 created this file. For more info see http://www.lyx.org/
\lyxformat 276
\begin_document
\begin_header
\textclass book
\begin_preamble
% This file was converted from HTML to LaTeX with
% Tomasz Wegrzanowski's [EMAIL PROTECTED] gnuhtml2latex program
% Version : 0.1
\end_preamble
\language greek
\inputencoding auto
\font_roman palatino
\font_sans default
\font_typewriter default
\font_default_family rmdefault
\font_sc false
\font_osf false
\font_sf_scale 100
\font_tt_scale 100
\graphics default
\paperfontsize 11
\spacing other 1.1
\papersize custom
\use_geometry true
\use_amsmath 0
\use_esint 0
\cite_engine basic
\use_bibtopic false
\paperorientation portrait
\paperwidth 6in
\paperheight 9in
\leftmargin 0.85in
\topmargin 0.85in
\rightmargin 0.85in
\bottommargin 0.85in
\secnumdepth 2
\tocdepth 2
\paragraph_separation indent
\defskip medskip
\quotes_language swedish
\papercolumns 1
\papersides 2
\paperpagestyle default
\tracking_changes false
\output_changes false
\author
\author
\end_header
\begin_body
\begin_layout Standard
this is me~ant to b`e in Gre'ek
\end_layout
\begin_layout Standard
\end_layout
\end_body
\end_document
--
2. Greek Tex
\documentclass{article}
\usepackage[polutonikogreek]{babel}
\usepackage[iso-8859-7]{inputenc}
\begin{document}
\selectlanguage{polutonikogreek}
\Large
Per`i t~hs amuntik~hs leitourg'ias t~hs ekklhsiastik~hs gl'wssas
Ðåñ`é ô~çó áìõíôéê~çó ëåéôïõñã'éáó ô~çó åêêëçóéáóôéê~çó ãë'ùóóáò
\bigskip
H Orj'odoxh Ekklhs'ia sugkrote~ita st`hn pr'axh di'afores
\end{document}
--
Anthony Campbell - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Microsoft-free zone - Using Debian GNU/Linux
http://www.acampbell.org.uk (blog, book reviews,
and sceptical articles)
Line spacing in author
Hi I'm trying to change the line spacing in the author environment (in a report). Lyx shows the change perfectly, but when I view it in pdf or dvi the line spacing setting is ignored. Even when I try to insert vertical spaces they are partly ignored. Actually the size of first vertical space in author is used for the second one, and no space is shown where the first one is. Also, try making the first one a VFill and the document won't compile. -- Rune author_spacing.lyx Description: application/lyx
Re: greek fonts
On 11 Jun 2008, Pavel Sanda wrote: On 10 Jun 2008, G. Milde wrote: On 10.06.08, Anthony Campbell wrote: I tried to use Lyx for ancient Greek but the circumflex (tilde) keeps appearing before the letter instead of above it. In most fonts, even in the Standard glyph list of the Unicode consortium and fonts from the Greek Font Society, the accents are written before the letter for capital letters and over the letter for small letters. All the accents appear correctly over the letters except for the circumflex (tilde). But in plain Latex the circumlex is correct. Could you post a *small* example file (lyx and tex)? Günter 1. Greek lyx: can you send it as a normal attachment? pavel I'm not sure what you mean. It's plain ascii. -- Anthony Campbell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Microsoft-free zone - Using Debian GNU/Linux http://www.acampbell.org.uk (blog, book reviews, and sceptical articles)
Re: greek fonts
Anthony Campbell skrev: On 11 Jun 2008, Pavel Sanda wrote: On 10 Jun 2008, G. Milde wrote: On 10.06.08, Anthony Campbell wrote: I tried to use Lyx for ancient Greek but the circumflex (tilde) keeps appearing before the letter instead of above it. In most fonts, even in the Standard glyph list of the Unicode consortium and fonts from the Greek Font Society, the accents are written before the letter for capital letters and over the letter for small letters. All the accents appear correctly over the letters except for the circumflex (tilde). But in plain Latex the circumlex is correct. Could you post a *small* example file (lyx and tex)? Günter 1. Greek lyx: can you send it as a normal attachment? pavel I'm not sure what you mean. It's plain ascii. He means like I attached a lyx file in my linespacing in author mail sent a few minutes ago.
Re: greek fonts
On 11 Jun 2008, Rune Schjellerup Philosof wrote: Anthony Campbell skrev: On 11 Jun 2008, Pavel Sanda wrote: On 10 Jun 2008, G. Milde wrote: On 10.06.08, Anthony Campbell wrote: I tried to use Lyx for ancient Greek but the circumflex (tilde) keeps appearing before the letter instead of above it. In most fonts, even in the Standard glyph list of the Unicode consortium and fonts from the Greek Font Society, the accents are written before the letter for capital letters and over the letter for small letters. All the accents appear correctly over the letters except for the circumflex (tilde). But in plain Latex the circumlex is correct. Could you post a *small* example file (lyx and tex)? Günter 1. Greek lyx: can you send it as a normal attachment? pavel I'm not sure what you mean. It's plain ascii. He means like I attached a lyx file in my linespacing in author mail sent a few minutes ago. That seems to be the same thing but with carriage returns. Off-hand I'm not sure how to do that thought I think it's possible in vim. But the whole thing is getting extremely complicated so I think I'll just stick with plain Latex. Thanks to everyone for help. Anthony -- Anthony Campbell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Microsoft-free zone - Using Debian GNU/Linux http://www.acampbell.org.uk (blog, book reviews, and sceptical articles)
Nomenclature
Hi I'm trying to make a nomenclature list, however, does some strange things. If I put a nomenclature (MS) in a section environment then the list becomes: LC Liquid Chromatography, page 13 MS MASS SPECTROMETRY, page 8–10 MS MASS SPECTROMETRY, page 11 MS MASS SPECTROMETRY, page 12, 13 MS Mass spectrometry, page 1 MS Mass spectrometry, page 8 PTM Post Translational Modification, page 14 Some of it is quite nice, but It really should only contain one entry for MS. MS Mass spectrometry, page 8-13 I don't why it writes the entries in upper case, why it separates page 11 out instead creating the 8-13 range, or why it also includes a reference to the TOC (page 1). I have also tried inserting the same nomenclature (DDA and ESI) several time in a standard environment, to see it was able to make a range then: DDA Fragmentation method for mass spectrometry, page 6 DDA Fragmentation method for mass spectrometry, page 15, 16 ESI Electrospray Ionization, page 9, 10 ESI Electrospray Ionization, page 11 But as you can see, for some reason it does not write 6, 15, 16 for DDA and 9-11 for ESI. -- Regards Rune
Re: greek fonts
On 11.06.08, Anthony Campbell wrote: On 10 Jun 2008, G. Milde wrote: On 10.06.08, Anthony Campbell wrote: I tried to use Lyx for ancient Greek but the circumflex (tilde) keeps appearing before the letter instead of above it. Unfortunately, lyx currently only supports modern Greek, but has no support for polytonic Greek (babel option polutonikogreek). However, this can be easily fixed by adding polutonikogreek to the languages file and re-configuring: --- /usr/share/lyx/languages2008-05-14 11:36:44.0 +0200 +++ ~/.lyx/languages2008-06-11 13:09:27.0 +0200 @@ -36,6 +36,7 @@ german german Germanfalse iso8859-15 de_DE ngerman ngermanGerman (new spelling) false iso8859-15 de_DE greek greek Greek false iso8859-7 el_GR +polutonikogreek polutonikogreekGreek (polytonic) false iso8859-7 el_GR hebrew hebrew Hebrewtrue cp1255 he_IL #hungarian hungarian Hungarian false iso8859-2 hu_HU irish irish Irish false iso8859-15 ga_IE With this fix, your lyx example can be set to use the language Greek (polytonic). However, as the tilde acts as a non-breakable space in LaTeX, it is escaped by LyX (converted to \asciitilde) and hence the example will only work right, if you put the tilde (or the whole text) in an ERT box or just insert a non-breakable space instead. See the attached example. Question to the developers: Would it be possible to pass the tilde '~' to LaTeX as-is if the language is set to polutonikogreek? All the accents appear correctly over the letters except for the circumflex (tilde). But in plain Latex the circumflex is correct. A tilde is not a circumflex: Character '~' (126, 0x7E) 007E TILDE Character '^' (94, 0x5E) 005E CIRCUMFLEX ACCENT 2. Greek Tex ... Now I see. Your example uses polutonikogreek. With greek, the tilde is replaced by a space. With the above patch, I can import your latex example, set the language to Greek (polytonic) and it displays as expected. With DocumentSettingsLanguageEncoding set to utf8x, LyX can handle accented (polytonic) Greek characters like the example 2 copied directly from the Wikipedia even with language == Greek. Günter greek-test-campbell.lyx Description: application/lyx greek-german-test.lyx Description: application/lyx
Re: greek fonts
On 11.06.08, Pavel Sanda wrote: Normally LyX checks the package availability for any extensions, so this might count as a (minor) LyX bug, no i dont have this package locally, so its not lyx problem. It is a lyx problem if you can actively set DocumentSettingsLanguageEncoding to utf8x while the package ucs (and hence utf8x.def) is not installed. Could you test whether you can change the encoding to something else and back to utf8x (before installing ucs)? yes i can. anyway i think you should be able to select encoding for which your tex distribution hasn't support, because at least editing works and and in some cases that is enough. But this is inconsistent with handling of other extensions. Editing in LyX works even without any tex distribution, still reconfigure checks availability of fonts, classes and packages -- but not inputenc nor ucs. Günter
Re: greek fonts
With this fix, your lyx example can be set to use the language Greek
(polytonic).
However, as the tilde acts as a non-breakable space in LaTeX, it is
escaped by LyX (converted to \asciitilde) and hence the example will only
work right, if you put the tilde (or the whole text) in an ERT box or
just insert a non-breakable space instead.
See the attached example.
Question to the developers: Would it be possible to pass the tilde '~'
to LaTeX as-is if the language is set to polutonikogreek?
please correct me if i'm wrong, but i think this is wrong direction. how will
you determine nonbreak. space vs tilde accent then?
Anthony wrote that he does not see tilde over character, but i dont have any
problems with
it. When you put tilde-accent into the command buffer and then strike the
desired key,
tilde is not working for you? tex output is then \~{character}.
pavel
Re: greek fonts
it. When you put tilde-accent into the command buffer and then strike the desired key, sorry i meant accent-tilde pavel
Re: greek fonts
is tetex supposed to work with the chosen encoding or do i need texlive?
what tex distribution do you use?
utf8x.def is part of the ucs package for comprehensive unicode support.
I use the texlive packages from Debian/testing which contain ucs in
texlive-latex-recommended.
I do not know whether ucs is part of tetex (or which tetex package it is
in). But tetex should cooperate with it if you locally install ucs from
CTAN.
just for archive purposes gentoo has ucs hidden under dev-tex/latex-unicode
package. i also got complaint about missing beramono.sty so dev-tex/bera
packages was needed too.
after removing \usepackage{kerkis} from preamble of the file you posted
i see everything correctly in postscript output.
pavel
Re: greek fonts
But this is inconsistent with handling of other extensions. Editing in LyX works even without any tex distribution, still reconfigure checks availability of fonts, classes and packages -- but not inputenc nor ucs. which is a different story then prohibit this encoding ;) pavel
Re: greek fonts
On 11 Jun 2008, G. Milde wrote: Unfortunately, lyx currently only supports modern Greek, but has no support for polytonic Greek (babel option polutonikogreek). However, this can be easily fixed by adding polutonikogreek to the languages file and re-configuring: --- /usr/share/lyx/languages 2008-05-14 11:36:44.0 +0200 +++ ~/.lyx/languages 2008-06-11 13:09:27.0 +0200 @@ -36,6 +36,7 @@ german german Germanfalse iso8859-15 de_DE ngerman ngerman German (new spelling) false iso8859-15 de_DE greek greekGreek false iso8859-7 el_GR +polutonikogreek polutonikogreek Greek (polytonic) false iso8859-7 el_GR hebrew hebrew Hebrewtrue cp1255 he_IL #hungarian hungarian Hungarian false iso8859-2 hu_HU irish irishIrish false iso8859-15 ga_IE With this fix, your lyx example can be set to use the language Greek (polytonic). However, as the tilde acts as a non-breakable space in LaTeX, it is escaped by LyX (converted to \asciitilde) and hence the example will only work right, if you put the tilde (or the whole text) in an ERT box or just insert a non-breakable space instead. See the attached example. Question to the developers: Would it be possible to pass the tilde '~' to LaTeX as-is if the language is set to polutonikogreek? All the accents appear correctly over the letters except for the circumflex (tilde). But in plain Latex the circumflex is correct. A tilde is not a circumflex: Character '~' (126, 0x7E) 007ETILDE Character '^' (94, 0x5E) 005E CIRCUMFLEX ACCENT 2. Greek Tex ... Now I see. Your example uses polutonikogreek. With greek, the tilde is replaced by a space. With the above patch, I can import your latex example, set the language to Greek (polytonic) and it displays as expected. With DocumentSettingsLanguageEncoding set to utf8x, LyX can handle accented (polytonic) Greek characters like the example 2 copied directly from the Wikipedia even with language == Greek. Günter It still doesn't work here. That is, the tilde comes out before the letter, not on top of it. But I think this is something to do with the current version of Latex, not Lyx, because the same thing is now happening in native Latex as well. Looks like I shall have to give up trying to write Greek in Lyx and Latex for the time being, unless someone fixes it. This is on Debian Sid. I haven't tried in my rather ancient version of Ubuntu. Anthony -- Anthony Campbell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Microsoft-free zone - Using Debian GNU/Linux http://www.acampbell.org.uk (blog, book reviews, and sceptical articles)
Re: Line spacing in author
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 3:37 AM, Rune Schjellerup Philosof [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I'm trying to change the line spacing in the author environment (in a report). Lyx shows the change perfectly, but when I view it in pdf or dvi the line spacing setting is ignored. Even when I try to insert vertical spaces they are partly ignored. Actually the size of first vertical space in author is used for the second one, and no space is shown where the first one is. Also, try making the first one a VFill and the document won't compile. -- Rune From what I found on the internet, Authors should be added with the, \and, command with the command being put in ERT. Also, using ERT line breaks, \\, rather than the LyX ctrl-enter seems to work better for me. I've attached an example. Cheers, /Bob author_spacing_test.lyx Description: application/lyx
Re: Line spacing in author
Bob Lounsbury skrev: On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 3:37 AM, Rune Schjellerup Philosof [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I'm trying to change the line spacing in the author environment (in a report). Lyx shows the change perfectly, but when I view it in pdf or dvi the line spacing setting is ignored. Even when I try to insert vertical spaces they are partly ignored. Actually the size of first vertical space in author is used for the second one, and no space is shown where the first one is. Also, try making the first one a VFill and the document won't compile. From what I found on the internet, Authors should be added with the, \and, command with the command being put in ERT. Also, using ERT line breaks, \\, rather than the LyX ctrl-enter seems to work better for me. I've attached an example. I did not know that about \and. But that wasn't really what I was having trouble with. Also in your example, the spacing between the lines of the author name, and the university name is not double, as the paragraph has been set. -- Rune
Re: greek fonts
On 11 Jun 2008, G. Milde wrote: It still doesn't work here. That is, the tilde comes out before the letter, not on top of it. But I think this is something to do with the current version of Latex, not Lyx, because the same thing is now happening in native Latex as well. Looks like I shall have to give up trying to write Greek in Lyx and Latex for the time being, unless someone fixes it. This is on Debian Sid. I haven't tried in my rather ancient version of Ubuntu. thats strange, i can typeset Guenter's example file without problems. and without any polutonikogreek etc. just greek language and utf8x input encoding is enough. thing which indeed seems to be broken in lyx is direct typing of these accented characters into the document. but once you put the character via clipboard or symbols dialog in 1.6 i see no problem. both screen and postscipt result are just fine. i will raise that input-typing issue on devel list soon. pavel
Re: greek fonts
On 11.06.08, Pavel Sanda wrote:
Question to the developers: Would it be possible to pass the tilde '~'
to LaTeX as-is if the language is set to polutonikogreek?
please correct me if i'm wrong, but i think this is wrong direction.
how will you determine nonbreak. space vs tilde accent then?
The same way as polutonikogreek.def: \nobreakspace vs. ~
Anthony wrote that he does not see tilde over character, but i dont
have any problems with it.
So we have to find out what is different in Anthony's case.
When you put tilde-accent into the command buffer and then strike the
desired key, tilde is not working for you?
It works in LyX but not in the printout.
tex output is then \~{character}.
which works well with (modern) greek but not with polutonikogreek.
See the attached examples.
Günter
greek-test-campbell.lyx
Description: application/lyx
polutonikogreek-test-campbell.lyx
Description: application/lyx
Re: Line spacing in author
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Rune Schjellerup Philosof [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob Lounsbury skrev: On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 3:37 AM, Rune Schjellerup Philosof [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I'm trying to change the line spacing in the author environment (in a report). Lyx shows the change perfectly, but when I view it in pdf or dvi the line spacing setting is ignored. Even when I try to insert vertical spaces they are partly ignored. Actually the size of first vertical space in author is used for the second one, and no space is shown where the first one is. Also, try making the first one a VFill and the document won't compile. From what I found on the internet, Authors should be added with the, \and, command with the command being put in ERT. Also, using ERT line breaks, \\, rather than the LyX ctrl-enter seems to work better for me. I've attached an example. I did not know that about \and. But that wasn't really what I was having trouble with. Also in your example, the spacing between the lines of the author name, and the university name is not double, as the paragraph has been set. -- Rune Ok. Then try this. /Bob author_spacing_test.lyx Description: application/lyx
Re: greek fonts
On 11.06.08, Anthony Campbell wrote:
It still doesn't work here. That is, the tilde comes out before the
letter, not on top of it.
But I think this is something to do with the current version of Latex,
not Lyx, because the same thing is now happening in native Latex as
well.
Strange.
Looks like I shall have to give up trying to write Greek in Lyx and
Latex for the time being, unless someone fixes it. This is on Debian
Sid.
I use Debian/testing and do not have the problems.
Could you try with the two attached latex files?
\documentclass[polutonikogreek,british]{article}
\usepackage{mathpazo}
\usepackage[T1]{fontenc}
\usepackage[latin9,iso-8859-7]{inputenc}
\usepackage{babel}
\begin{document}
\selectlanguage{british}%
\inputencoding{latin9}
\section*{polutonikogreek document}
\selectlanguage{polutonikogreek}%
\inputencoding{iso-8859-7}
this is me~ant t\^o b`e in Gre'ek
\selectlanguage{british}%
\inputencoding{latin9}This prints a tilde before the letter:
\inputencoding{iso-8859-7}\foreignlanguage{polutonikogreek}{\textasciitilde{}h.}
\inputencoding{latin9}This only works in polutonik (classic) Greek but drops
the tilde in modern Greek:
\inputencoding{iso-8859-7}\foreignlanguage{polutonikogreek}{~h, ~h.}
\inputencoding{latin9}This only works in monotonik (modern) Greek:
\inputencoding{iso-8859-7}\foreignlanguage{polutonikogreek}{\~{h}.}
\inputencoding{latin9}This works in both, polutonik and monotonik (modern)
Greek:
\inputencoding{iso-8859-7}\foreignlanguage{polutonikogreek}{\~h.}
\end{document}
\documentclass[greek,british]{article}
\usepackage{mathpazo}
\usepackage[T1]{fontenc}
\usepackage[latin9,iso-8859-7]{inputenc}
\usepackage{babel}
\begin{document}
\selectlanguage{british}%
\inputencoding{latin9}
\section*{greek document}
\selectlanguage{greek}%
\inputencoding{iso-8859-7}
this is me~ant to b`e in Gre'ek
\selectlanguage{british}%
\inputencoding{latin9}This prints a tilde before the letter:
\inputencoding{iso-8859-7}\foreignlanguage{greek}{\textasciitilde{}h.}
\inputencoding{latin9}This only works in polutonik (classic) Greek but drops
the tilde in modern Greek:
\inputencoding{iso-8859-7}\foreignlanguage{greek}{~h, ~h.}
\inputencoding{latin9}This only works in monotonik (modern) Greek:
\inputencoding{iso-8859-7}\foreignlanguage{greek}{\~{h}.}
\inputencoding{latin9}This works in both, polutonik and monotonik (modern)
Greek:
\inputencoding{iso-8859-7}\foreignlanguage{greek}{\~h.}
\end{document}
Re: greek fonts
On 11 Jun 2008, G. Milde wrote: On 11.06.08, Anthony Campbell wrote: It still doesn't work here. That is, the tilde comes out before the letter, not on top of it. But I think this is something to do with the current version of Latex, not Lyx, because the same thing is now happening in native Latex as well. Strange. Looks like I shall have to give up trying to write Greek in Lyx and Latex for the time being, unless someone fixes it. This is on Debian Sid. I use Debian/testing and do not have the problems. Could you try with the two attached latex files? OK: polytonikogreek document works partly; greek document works almost correctly except that the second line doesn't print any tildes at all. I attach the dvi files so that you can see what happens. Anthony -- Anthony Campbell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Microsoft-free zone - Using Debian GNU/Linux http://www.acampbell.org.uk (blog, book reviews, and sceptical articles) polytonikogreek-test-campbell.dvi Description: TeX dvi file greek-test-campbell.dvi Description: TeX dvi file
Re: Line spacing in author
Bob Lounsbury skrev: On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Rune Schjellerup Philosof [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob Lounsbury skrev: On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 3:37 AM, Rune Schjellerup Philosof [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to change the line spacing in the author environment (in a report). Lyx shows the change perfectly, but when I view it in pdf or dvi the line spacing setting is ignored. Even when I try to insert vertical spaces they are partly ignored. Actually the size of first vertical space in author is used for the second one, and no space is shown where the first one is. Also, try making the first one a VFill and the document won't compile. From what I found on the internet, Authors should be added with the, \and, command with the command being put in ERT. Also, using ERT line breaks, \\, rather than the LyX ctrl-enter seems to work better for me. I've attached an example. I did not know that about \and. But that wasn't really what I was having trouble with. Also in your example, the spacing between the lines of the author name, and the university name is not double, as the paragraph has been set. Ok. Then try this. Well, I forgot to tell, I actually don't want double spacing, but 1.5 or something. I guess I should report it as a bug.
Re: Line spacing in author
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 10:04 AM, Rune Schjellerup Philosof [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob Lounsbury skrev: On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Rune Schjellerup Philosof [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob Lounsbury skrev: On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 3:37 AM, Rune Schjellerup Philosof [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to change the line spacing in the author environment (in a report). Lyx shows the change perfectly, but when I view it in pdf or dvi the line spacing setting is ignored. Even when I try to insert vertical spaces they are partly ignored. Actually the size of first vertical space in author is used for the second one, and no space is shown where the first one is. Also, try making the first one a VFill and the document won't compile. From what I found on the internet, Authors should be added with the, \and, command with the command being put in ERT. Also, using ERT line breaks, \\, rather than the LyX ctrl-enter seems to work better for me. I've attached an example. I did not know that about \and. But that wasn't really what I was having trouble with. Also in your example, the spacing between the lines of the author name, and the university name is not double, as the paragraph has been set. Ok. Then try this. Well, I forgot to tell, I actually don't want double spacing, but 1.5 or something. I guess I should report it as a bug. Ok, now you're just being picky :-}. I don't think this is a bug, what you are trying to do is not standard LaTeX formatting within an author environment. Anyways, I seem to have fixed the bug by using ctrl-enter at the start of the next author rather than the end of the author. See the attached example. Cheers, /Bob author_spacing_test.lyx Description: application/lyx
Re: Line spacing in author
Bob Lounsbury skrev: On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 10:04 AM, Rune Schjellerup Philosof [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob Lounsbury skrev: On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Rune Schjellerup Philosof [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob Lounsbury skrev: On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 3:37 AM, Rune Schjellerup Philosof [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to change the line spacing in the author environment (in a report). Lyx shows the change perfectly, but when I view it in pdf or dvi the line spacing setting is ignored. Even when I try to insert vertical spaces they are partly ignored. Actually the size of first vertical space in author is used for the second one, and no space is shown where the first one is. Also, try making the first one a VFill and the document won't compile. From what I found on the internet, Authors should be added with the, \and, command with the command being put in ERT. Also, using ERT line breaks, \\, rather than the LyX ctrl-enter seems to work better for me. I've attached an example. I did not know that about \and. But that wasn't really what I was having trouble with. Also in your example, the spacing between the lines of the author name, and the university name is not double, as the paragraph has been set. Ok. Then try this. Well, I forgot to tell, I actually don't want double spacing, but 1.5 or something. I guess I should report it as a bug. Ok, now you're just being picky :-}. I don't think this is a bug, what you are trying to do is not standard LaTeX formatting within an author environment. Anyways, I seem to have fixed the bug by using ctrl-enter at the start of the next author rather than the end of the author. See the attached example. Cheers, /Bob Nice, the workaround seems to work. Anoying when LaTeX is so much worse at producing the desired result than Lyx. And no errormessages, even though they probably wouldn't have made much sense, they rarely do. -- Rune
Spell checking problems
Hello, LyX 1.5.3 on Mepis Linux does not seem to be able to make use of any of my spell checking libraries. I'm pretty sure I have them all installed - ispell, aspell, etc; American and British English. With ispell I get: The spellchecker could not be started Can't open /usr/lib/ispell/english.hash I think this may be because the file is not called english.hash, but british.hash. Any suggestions? Thanks, Ryan
Short indexes reference
Hello all, this is my first time in this very useful forum! As a historian (of opera) I use the analytical index to refer to people's name and sometimes to their works. But I find really annoying to write every single time in the index line Verdi, Giuseppe) in Lyx (or a LaTeX editor). Additionally, when I'm talking about - say - Verdi's opera Aida for a nested index (very nice and useful) I have to write in the index line Verdi, [EMAIL PROTECTED] to have it correctly nested and emphasized. That's crazy (and I'm still lucky it's a short reference and not Amilcare Ponchielli's Il Figliuol Prodigo!!!). There should be a way to write only a sort of conventional label (as for bibliography) for example VerdiAida or simply Aida which refer to a correctly formatted index reference somewhere else (the preamble?) and only ONCE for all!!! I'm not refering to the aliases in the index (I already use): i don't want my index to refer VerdiAida, see Verdi, Giuseppe / Aida, of course!!! Please help me, sure there's an answer! Another - silly - question: how can I BY KEYBOARD open (and close) an index box or a TeX box in Lyx? Thanks! -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Short-indexes-reference-tp17784790p17784790.html Sent from the LyX - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Re: Line spacing in author
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 12:25 PM, Rune Schjellerup Philosof [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nice, the workaround seems to work. Anoying when LaTeX is so much worse at producing the desired result than Lyx. And no errormessages, even though they probably wouldn't have made much sense, they rarely do. -- Rune I'm confused? It wasn't a workaround and neither LaTeX nor LyX is annoying. Also, there were no error messages because it wasn't an error, other than maybe user error. What we learned was the proper way of formatting the entries in LyX and hence LaTeX. LyX is nothing more than a gui frontend for LaTeX. Both LaTeX and LyX produce the exact same result. I've attached the example using ERT LaTeX commands to produce the exact same result as what we've done with native LyX commands, which are nothing more than a frontend to LaTeX commands. As you can see LyX and LaTeX output are identical. Example: When you insert ctrl-enter in LyX you are actually inserting \\ in the document. You can see this by using View-View Source that shows you how your document is being formatted as you enter things in the LyX WYSIWYG interface to LaTeX. Hope that helps explain things. You have to insert the proper syntax to get the proper output. Cheers, /Bob
Re: Line spacing in author
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 1:34 PM, Bob Lounsbury [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 12:25 PM, Rune Schjellerup Philosof [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nice, the workaround seems to work. Anoying when LaTeX is so much worse at producing the desired result than Lyx. And no errormessages, even though they probably wouldn't have made much sense, they rarely do. -- Rune I'm confused? It wasn't a workaround and neither LaTeX nor LyX is annoying. Also, there were no error messages because it wasn't an error, other than maybe user error. What we learned was the proper way of formatting the entries in LyX and hence LaTeX. LyX is nothing more than a gui frontend for LaTeX. Both LaTeX and LyX produce the exact same result. I've attached the example using ERT LaTeX commands to produce the exact same result as what we've done with native LyX commands, which are nothing more than a frontend to LaTeX commands. As you can see LyX and LaTeX output are identical. Example: When you insert ctrl-enter in LyX you are actually inserting \\ in the document. You can see this by using View-View Source that shows you how your document is being formatted as you enter things in the LyX WYSIWYG interface to LaTeX. Hope that helps explain things. You have to insert the proper syntax to get the proper output. Cheers, /Bob Sorry, forgot the attachment. author_spacing_test.lyx Description: application/lyx
Re: Line spacing in author
Bob Lounsbury skrev: I agree there are usability issues, but once you play with the program more you get used to those and they transform from usability issues to LaTeX formatting guidelines :-}. Then you learn how to work with those guidelines. Hope you keep plugging away with LyX, it really is a great program. You misunderstood what kind of user I am. You don't need to convince me to use LyX. I have happily used LyX for my bachelor thesis, for various courses, and now for my masters thesis. LyX is a great addition to the LaTeX toolkit. However, I just think it could be better (which I'm sure 1.6 will be). And I still see the line spacing issue as a bug (maybe just rated as a feature request). -- Rune
Re: greek fonts (summary?)
Question to the developers: Would it be possible to pass the tilde '~'
to LaTeX as-is if the language is set to polutonikogreek?
please correct me if i'm wrong, but i think this is wrong direction.
how will you determine nonbreak. space vs tilde accent then?
The same way as polutonikogreek.def: \nobreakspace vs. ~
before sinking into this issue i still don't understand why polutonikogreek
is needed, see below.
When you put tilde-accent into the command buffer and then strike the
desired key, tilde is not working for you?
It works in LyX but not in the printout.
yes i found this already ;(
tex output is then \~{character}.
which works well with (modern) greek but not with polutonikogreek.
i would like to summarize the my understanding of the problems i encountered,
please comment on:
1. Screen painting.
after installing unicode fonts for X displaying ancient greek letters works in
lyx
without problems.
2. LaTeX typeseting.
after installing unicode packages for tex fonts and input encoding utf8x
the documents with ancient greek letters obtained in document via copy paste
from e.g. wikipedia or through symbols dialog in lyx 1.6 work without problems,
no switch to polutonikogreek needed, just greek language is enough.
3. Input of ancient greek letters into the document.
a) pasting the (whole) unicode character from outside works
b) using the keystroke of ~+char does not work - instead of accented character
we get two characters.
c) using lfun accent-tilde+char basically(*) works as far as screen painting
concerened,
but fails badly once you try to typeset the document.
the key issue is why 3c fails. guessing from the output the culprit is that when
accent-tilde is used with some char, it does not produce 'single' character but
it produces combined unicode character (i.e. accent char+normal char). iirc
this is correct
from the unicode point of view - single accented char is equivalent to
combining char + normal letter. this works on the screen, however utf8x is not
able to
decode the second case unless we use \unicodecombine macro in tex output.
i see more ways how this could be fixed, but we should firstly agree that THIS
is the
culprit.
once 3c is fixed, 3b is easily fixable by adding shortcut for ~ - accent-tilde
call
(or even hard code ~ as a dead key).
pavel
(3c*) there are few minor issues how the 'combined' chars cause editing
problems inside
lyx - backspace key is not always able to delete accent char, one must put it
into selection
to get rid of it, there is also issue with source view panel for which i
already filed
new bug report (4946).
Re: greek fonts (summary?)
Pavel Sanda skrev: (or even hard code ~ as a dead key). On some keyboard layouts ~ is a dead key by default (danish for instance). My guess is that people, who wish to write greek, use such a keyboard layout (or changes to one). I wonder why tilde is a dead key on danish keyboards, we don't have any chars in our alphabet that use a tilde accent. I guess someone once thought that tilde would only be used for languages, where it is an accent, and then defaulted it to dead? Then that someone thought wrong, or the one who chose ~ for homedir shortcut chose wrong :) ã õ ñ -- Mvh Rune
Re: conversion to open doc format and tables
Maria Gouskova wrote: Does anyone know why conversion from LyX to Open Document format adds blank rows to tables? I'd say about three extra blank rows in the Open Doc file for each row in the original LyX document. Even when the simplest table is converted, an extra cell is added at the bottom. Mac OS 10.5.3, LyX 1.5.5 This is a bug in tex4ht, the LaTeX to ODT converter. Is there any way around this? I just submitted a bug report to the tex4ht maintainer, and he informed me that he will look into the problem. Jürgen
Re: greek fonts
On 10.06.08, Pavel Sanda wrote: On 10.06.08, Pavel Sanda wrote: now the next step :) i see latex error that utf8x.def file is missing. Where you able to select utf8x font encoding from the LyX gui? i dont think this is possible. My mistake. You cannot choose font encoding from lyx. It should have read *input encoding* which in lyx is available under DocumentSettingsLanguageEncoding which was set to utf8x in your previous file. Normally LyX checks the package availability for any extensions, so this might count as a (minor) LyX bug, no i dont have this package locally, so its not lyx problem. It is a lyx problem if you can actively set DocumentSettingsLanguageEncoding to utf8x while the package ucs (and hence utf8x.def) is not installed. Could you test whether you can change the encoding to something else and back to utf8x (before installing ucs)? Of course it is not a lyx problem, if you can open view and edit my file even if it specifies an encoding your system does not support. ;-) Günter
Re: pgf and external table plot
[referencing external file inside ERT] It occurs to me that a simpler solution might be to put an absolute reference to the file in the ERT. LyX still will not copy it to the temp directory, but it won't need to. Hmm that makes sense, good idea :) Is there a way to have the absolute path where the source lyx files reside expanded by a macro or somehow? - Willem
Re: pgf and external table plot
Willem van Engen wrote: [referencing external file inside ERT] It occurs to me that a simpler solution might be to put an absolute reference to the file in the ERT. LyX still will not copy it to the temp directory, but it won't need to. Hmm that makes sense, good idea :) Is there a way to have the absolute path where the source lyx files reside expanded by a macro or somehow? Not in 1.5 AFAIK, in 1.6 you'll have InsetInfo for that kind of information. Abdel.
Re: greek fonts
Normally LyX checks the package availability for any extensions, so this might count as a (minor) LyX bug, no i dont have this package locally, so its not lyx problem. It is a lyx problem if you can actively set DocumentSettingsLanguageEncoding to utf8x while the package ucs (and hence utf8x.def) is not installed. Could you test whether you can change the encoding to something else and back to utf8x (before installing ucs)? yes i can. anyway i think you should be able to select encoding for which your tex distribution hasn't support, because at least editing works and and in some cases that is enough. pavel
Re: greek fonts
On 10 Jun 2008, G. Milde wrote: On 10.06.08, Anthony Campbell wrote: I tried to use Lyx for ancient Greek but the circumflex (tilde) keeps appearing before the letter instead of above it. In most fonts, even in the Standard glyph list of the Unicode consortium and fonts from the Greek Font Society, the accents are written before the letter for capital letters and over the letter for small letters. All the accents appear correctly over the letters except for the circumflex (tilde). But in plain Latex the circumlex is correct. Could you post a *small* example file (lyx and tex)? Günter 1. Greek lyx: can you send it as a normal attachment? pavel
Re: greek fonts
On 10 Jun 2008, G. Milde wrote:
On 10.06.08, Anthony Campbell wrote:
I tried to use Lyx for ancient Greek but the circumflex (tilde)
keeps
appearing before the letter instead of above it.
In most fonts, even in the Standard glyph list of the Unicode
consortium and fonts from the Greek Font Society, the accents are written
before the letter for capital letters and over the letter for small
letters.
All the accents appear correctly over the letters except for the
circumflex (tilde). But in plain Latex the circumlex is correct.
Could you post a *small* example file (lyx and tex)?
Günter
1. Greek lyx:
#LyX 1.5.5 created this file. For more info see http://www.lyx.org/
\lyxformat 276
\begin_document
\begin_header
\textclass book
\begin_preamble
% This file was converted from HTML to LaTeX with
% Tomasz Wegrzanowski's [EMAIL PROTECTED] gnuhtml2latex program
% Version : 0.1
\end_preamble
\language greek
\inputencoding auto
\font_roman palatino
\font_sans default
\font_typewriter default
\font_default_family rmdefault
\font_sc false
\font_osf false
\font_sf_scale 100
\font_tt_scale 100
\graphics default
\paperfontsize 11
\spacing other 1.1
\papersize custom
\use_geometry true
\use_amsmath 0
\use_esint 0
\cite_engine basic
\use_bibtopic false
\paperorientation portrait
\paperwidth 6in
\paperheight 9in
\leftmargin 0.85in
\topmargin 0.85in
\rightmargin 0.85in
\bottommargin 0.85in
\secnumdepth 2
\tocdepth 2
\paragraph_separation indent
\defskip medskip
\quotes_language swedish
\papercolumns 1
\papersides 2
\paperpagestyle default
\tracking_changes false
\output_changes false
\author
\author
\end_header
\begin_body
\begin_layout Standard
this is me~ant to b`e in Gre'ek
\end_layout
\begin_layout Standard
\end_layout
\end_body
\end_document
--
2. Greek Tex
\documentclass{article}
\usepackage[polutonikogreek]{babel}
\usepackage[iso-8859-7]{inputenc}
\begin{document}
\selectlanguage{polutonikogreek}
\Large
Per`i t~hs amuntik~hs leitourg'ias t~hs ekklhsiastik~hs gl'wssas
Ðåñ`é ô~çó áìõíôéê~çó ëåéôïõñã'éáó ô~çó åêêëçóéáóôéê~çó ãë'ùóóáò
\bigskip
H Orj'odoxh Ekklhs'ia sugkrote~ita st`hn pr'axh di'afores
\end{document}
--
Anthony Campbell - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Microsoft-free zone - Using Debian GNU/Linux
http://www.acampbell.org.uk (blog, book reviews,
and sceptical articles)
Line spacing in author
Hi I'm trying to change the line spacing in the author environment (in a report). Lyx shows the change perfectly, but when I view it in pdf or dvi the line spacing setting is ignored. Even when I try to insert vertical spaces they are partly ignored. Actually the size of first vertical space in author is used for the second one, and no space is shown where the first one is. Also, try making the first one a VFill and the document won't compile. -- Rune author_spacing.lyx Description: application/lyx
Re: greek fonts
On 11 Jun 2008, Pavel Sanda wrote: On 10 Jun 2008, G. Milde wrote: On 10.06.08, Anthony Campbell wrote: I tried to use Lyx for ancient Greek but the circumflex (tilde) keeps appearing before the letter instead of above it. In most fonts, even in the Standard glyph list of the Unicode consortium and fonts from the Greek Font Society, the accents are written before the letter for capital letters and over the letter for small letters. All the accents appear correctly over the letters except for the circumflex (tilde). But in plain Latex the circumlex is correct. Could you post a *small* example file (lyx and tex)? Günter 1. Greek lyx: can you send it as a normal attachment? pavel I'm not sure what you mean. It's plain ascii. -- Anthony Campbell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Microsoft-free zone - Using Debian GNU/Linux http://www.acampbell.org.uk (blog, book reviews, and sceptical articles)
Re: greek fonts
Anthony Campbell skrev: On 11 Jun 2008, Pavel Sanda wrote: On 10 Jun 2008, G. Milde wrote: On 10.06.08, Anthony Campbell wrote: I tried to use Lyx for ancient Greek but the circumflex (tilde) keeps appearing before the letter instead of above it. In most fonts, even in the Standard glyph list of the Unicode consortium and fonts from the Greek Font Society, the accents are written before the letter for capital letters and over the letter for small letters. All the accents appear correctly over the letters except for the circumflex (tilde). But in plain Latex the circumlex is correct. Could you post a *small* example file (lyx and tex)? Günter 1. Greek lyx: can you send it as a normal attachment? pavel I'm not sure what you mean. It's plain ascii. He means like I attached a lyx file in my linespacing in author mail sent a few minutes ago.
Re: greek fonts
On 11 Jun 2008, Rune Schjellerup Philosof wrote: Anthony Campbell skrev: On 11 Jun 2008, Pavel Sanda wrote: On 10 Jun 2008, G. Milde wrote: On 10.06.08, Anthony Campbell wrote: I tried to use Lyx for ancient Greek but the circumflex (tilde) keeps appearing before the letter instead of above it. In most fonts, even in the Standard glyph list of the Unicode consortium and fonts from the Greek Font Society, the accents are written before the letter for capital letters and over the letter for small letters. All the accents appear correctly over the letters except for the circumflex (tilde). But in plain Latex the circumlex is correct. Could you post a *small* example file (lyx and tex)? Günter 1. Greek lyx: can you send it as a normal attachment? pavel I'm not sure what you mean. It's plain ascii. He means like I attached a lyx file in my linespacing in author mail sent a few minutes ago. That seems to be the same thing but with carriage returns. Off-hand I'm not sure how to do that thought I think it's possible in vim. But the whole thing is getting extremely complicated so I think I'll just stick with plain Latex. Thanks to everyone for help. Anthony -- Anthony Campbell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Microsoft-free zone - Using Debian GNU/Linux http://www.acampbell.org.uk (blog, book reviews, and sceptical articles)
Nomenclature
Hi I'm trying to make a nomenclature list, however, does some strange things. If I put a nomenclature (MS) in a section environment then the list becomes: LC Liquid Chromatography, page 13 MS MASS SPECTROMETRY, page 8–10 MS MASS SPECTROMETRY, page 11 MS MASS SPECTROMETRY, page 12, 13 MS Mass spectrometry, page 1 MS Mass spectrometry, page 8 PTM Post Translational Modification, page 14 Some of it is quite nice, but It really should only contain one entry for MS. MS Mass spectrometry, page 8-13 I don't why it writes the entries in upper case, why it separates page 11 out instead creating the 8-13 range, or why it also includes a reference to the TOC (page 1). I have also tried inserting the same nomenclature (DDA and ESI) several time in a standard environment, to see it was able to make a range then: DDA Fragmentation method for mass spectrometry, page 6 DDA Fragmentation method for mass spectrometry, page 15, 16 ESI Electrospray Ionization, page 9, 10 ESI Electrospray Ionization, page 11 But as you can see, for some reason it does not write 6, 15, 16 for DDA and 9-11 for ESI. -- Regards Rune
Re: greek fonts
On 11.06.08, Anthony Campbell wrote: On 10 Jun 2008, G. Milde wrote: On 10.06.08, Anthony Campbell wrote: I tried to use Lyx for ancient Greek but the circumflex (tilde) keeps appearing before the letter instead of above it. Unfortunately, lyx currently only supports modern Greek, but has no support for polytonic Greek (babel option polutonikogreek). However, this can be easily fixed by adding polutonikogreek to the languages file and re-configuring: --- /usr/share/lyx/languages2008-05-14 11:36:44.0 +0200 +++ ~/.lyx/languages2008-06-11 13:09:27.0 +0200 @@ -36,6 +36,7 @@ german german Germanfalse iso8859-15 de_DE ngerman ngermanGerman (new spelling) false iso8859-15 de_DE greek greek Greek false iso8859-7 el_GR +polutonikogreek polutonikogreekGreek (polytonic) false iso8859-7 el_GR hebrew hebrew Hebrewtrue cp1255 he_IL #hungarian hungarian Hungarian false iso8859-2 hu_HU irish irish Irish false iso8859-15 ga_IE With this fix, your lyx example can be set to use the language Greek (polytonic). However, as the tilde acts as a non-breakable space in LaTeX, it is escaped by LyX (converted to \asciitilde) and hence the example will only work right, if you put the tilde (or the whole text) in an ERT box or just insert a non-breakable space instead. See the attached example. Question to the developers: Would it be possible to pass the tilde '~' to LaTeX as-is if the language is set to polutonikogreek? All the accents appear correctly over the letters except for the circumflex (tilde). But in plain Latex the circumflex is correct. A tilde is not a circumflex: Character '~' (126, 0x7E) 007E TILDE Character '^' (94, 0x5E) 005E CIRCUMFLEX ACCENT 2. Greek Tex ... Now I see. Your example uses polutonikogreek. With greek, the tilde is replaced by a space. With the above patch, I can import your latex example, set the language to Greek (polytonic) and it displays as expected. With DocumentSettingsLanguageEncoding set to utf8x, LyX can handle accented (polytonic) Greek characters like the example 2 copied directly from the Wikipedia even with language == Greek. Günter greek-test-campbell.lyx Description: application/lyx greek-german-test.lyx Description: application/lyx
Re: greek fonts
On 11.06.08, Pavel Sanda wrote: Normally LyX checks the package availability for any extensions, so this might count as a (minor) LyX bug, no i dont have this package locally, so its not lyx problem. It is a lyx problem if you can actively set DocumentSettingsLanguageEncoding to utf8x while the package ucs (and hence utf8x.def) is not installed. Could you test whether you can change the encoding to something else and back to utf8x (before installing ucs)? yes i can. anyway i think you should be able to select encoding for which your tex distribution hasn't support, because at least editing works and and in some cases that is enough. But this is inconsistent with handling of other extensions. Editing in LyX works even without any tex distribution, still reconfigure checks availability of fonts, classes and packages -- but not inputenc nor ucs. Günter
Re: greek fonts
With this fix, your lyx example can be set to use the language Greek
(polytonic).
However, as the tilde acts as a non-breakable space in LaTeX, it is
escaped by LyX (converted to \asciitilde) and hence the example will only
work right, if you put the tilde (or the whole text) in an ERT box or
just insert a non-breakable space instead.
See the attached example.
Question to the developers: Would it be possible to pass the tilde '~'
to LaTeX as-is if the language is set to polutonikogreek?
please correct me if i'm wrong, but i think this is wrong direction. how will
you determine nonbreak. space vs tilde accent then?
Anthony wrote that he does not see tilde over character, but i dont have any
problems with
it. When you put tilde-accent into the command buffer and then strike the
desired key,
tilde is not working for you? tex output is then \~{character}.
pavel
Re: greek fonts
it. When you put tilde-accent into the command buffer and then strike the desired key, sorry i meant accent-tilde pavel
Re: greek fonts
is tetex supposed to work with the chosen encoding or do i need texlive?
what tex distribution do you use?
utf8x.def is part of the ucs package for comprehensive unicode support.
I use the texlive packages from Debian/testing which contain ucs in
texlive-latex-recommended.
I do not know whether ucs is part of tetex (or which tetex package it is
in). But tetex should cooperate with it if you locally install ucs from
CTAN.
just for archive purposes gentoo has ucs hidden under dev-tex/latex-unicode
package. i also got complaint about missing beramono.sty so dev-tex/bera
packages was needed too.
after removing \usepackage{kerkis} from preamble of the file you posted
i see everything correctly in postscript output.
pavel
Re: greek fonts
But this is inconsistent with handling of other extensions. Editing in LyX works even without any tex distribution, still reconfigure checks availability of fonts, classes and packages -- but not inputenc nor ucs. which is a different story then prohibit this encoding ;) pavel
Re: greek fonts
On 11 Jun 2008, G. Milde wrote: Unfortunately, lyx currently only supports modern Greek, but has no support for polytonic Greek (babel option polutonikogreek). However, this can be easily fixed by adding polutonikogreek to the languages file and re-configuring: --- /usr/share/lyx/languages 2008-05-14 11:36:44.0 +0200 +++ ~/.lyx/languages 2008-06-11 13:09:27.0 +0200 @@ -36,6 +36,7 @@ german german Germanfalse iso8859-15 de_DE ngerman ngerman German (new spelling) false iso8859-15 de_DE greek greekGreek false iso8859-7 el_GR +polutonikogreek polutonikogreek Greek (polytonic) false iso8859-7 el_GR hebrew hebrew Hebrewtrue cp1255 he_IL #hungarian hungarian Hungarian false iso8859-2 hu_HU irish irishIrish false iso8859-15 ga_IE With this fix, your lyx example can be set to use the language Greek (polytonic). However, as the tilde acts as a non-breakable space in LaTeX, it is escaped by LyX (converted to \asciitilde) and hence the example will only work right, if you put the tilde (or the whole text) in an ERT box or just insert a non-breakable space instead. See the attached example. Question to the developers: Would it be possible to pass the tilde '~' to LaTeX as-is if the language is set to polutonikogreek? All the accents appear correctly over the letters except for the circumflex (tilde). But in plain Latex the circumflex is correct. A tilde is not a circumflex: Character '~' (126, 0x7E) 007ETILDE Character '^' (94, 0x5E) 005E CIRCUMFLEX ACCENT 2. Greek Tex ... Now I see. Your example uses polutonikogreek. With greek, the tilde is replaced by a space. With the above patch, I can import your latex example, set the language to Greek (polytonic) and it displays as expected. With DocumentSettingsLanguageEncoding set to utf8x, LyX can handle accented (polytonic) Greek characters like the example 2 copied directly from the Wikipedia even with language == Greek. Günter It still doesn't work here. That is, the tilde comes out before the letter, not on top of it. But I think this is something to do with the current version of Latex, not Lyx, because the same thing is now happening in native Latex as well. Looks like I shall have to give up trying to write Greek in Lyx and Latex for the time being, unless someone fixes it. This is on Debian Sid. I haven't tried in my rather ancient version of Ubuntu. Anthony -- Anthony Campbell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Microsoft-free zone - Using Debian GNU/Linux http://www.acampbell.org.uk (blog, book reviews, and sceptical articles)
Re: Line spacing in author
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 3:37 AM, Rune Schjellerup Philosof [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I'm trying to change the line spacing in the author environment (in a report). Lyx shows the change perfectly, but when I view it in pdf or dvi the line spacing setting is ignored. Even when I try to insert vertical spaces they are partly ignored. Actually the size of first vertical space in author is used for the second one, and no space is shown where the first one is. Also, try making the first one a VFill and the document won't compile. -- Rune From what I found on the internet, Authors should be added with the, \and, command with the command being put in ERT. Also, using ERT line breaks, \\, rather than the LyX ctrl-enter seems to work better for me. I've attached an example. Cheers, /Bob author_spacing_test.lyx Description: application/lyx
Re: Line spacing in author
Bob Lounsbury skrev: On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 3:37 AM, Rune Schjellerup Philosof [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I'm trying to change the line spacing in the author environment (in a report). Lyx shows the change perfectly, but when I view it in pdf or dvi the line spacing setting is ignored. Even when I try to insert vertical spaces they are partly ignored. Actually the size of first vertical space in author is used for the second one, and no space is shown where the first one is. Also, try making the first one a VFill and the document won't compile. From what I found on the internet, Authors should be added with the, \and, command with the command being put in ERT. Also, using ERT line breaks, \\, rather than the LyX ctrl-enter seems to work better for me. I've attached an example. I did not know that about \and. But that wasn't really what I was having trouble with. Also in your example, the spacing between the lines of the author name, and the university name is not double, as the paragraph has been set. -- Rune
Re: greek fonts
On 11 Jun 2008, G. Milde wrote: It still doesn't work here. That is, the tilde comes out before the letter, not on top of it. But I think this is something to do with the current version of Latex, not Lyx, because the same thing is now happening in native Latex as well. Looks like I shall have to give up trying to write Greek in Lyx and Latex for the time being, unless someone fixes it. This is on Debian Sid. I haven't tried in my rather ancient version of Ubuntu. thats strange, i can typeset Guenter's example file without problems. and without any polutonikogreek etc. just greek language and utf8x input encoding is enough. thing which indeed seems to be broken in lyx is direct typing of these accented characters into the document. but once you put the character via clipboard or symbols dialog in 1.6 i see no problem. both screen and postscipt result are just fine. i will raise that input-typing issue on devel list soon. pavel
Re: greek fonts
On 11.06.08, Pavel Sanda wrote:
Question to the developers: Would it be possible to pass the tilde '~'
to LaTeX as-is if the language is set to polutonikogreek?
please correct me if i'm wrong, but i think this is wrong direction.
how will you determine nonbreak. space vs tilde accent then?
The same way as polutonikogreek.def: \nobreakspace vs. ~
Anthony wrote that he does not see tilde over character, but i dont
have any problems with it.
So we have to find out what is different in Anthony's case.
When you put tilde-accent into the command buffer and then strike the
desired key, tilde is not working for you?
It works in LyX but not in the printout.
tex output is then \~{character}.
which works well with (modern) greek but not with polutonikogreek.
See the attached examples.
Günter
greek-test-campbell.lyx
Description: application/lyx
polutonikogreek-test-campbell.lyx
Description: application/lyx
Re: Line spacing in author
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Rune Schjellerup Philosof [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob Lounsbury skrev: On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 3:37 AM, Rune Schjellerup Philosof [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I'm trying to change the line spacing in the author environment (in a report). Lyx shows the change perfectly, but when I view it in pdf or dvi the line spacing setting is ignored. Even when I try to insert vertical spaces they are partly ignored. Actually the size of first vertical space in author is used for the second one, and no space is shown where the first one is. Also, try making the first one a VFill and the document won't compile. From what I found on the internet, Authors should be added with the, \and, command with the command being put in ERT. Also, using ERT line breaks, \\, rather than the LyX ctrl-enter seems to work better for me. I've attached an example. I did not know that about \and. But that wasn't really what I was having trouble with. Also in your example, the spacing between the lines of the author name, and the university name is not double, as the paragraph has been set. -- Rune Ok. Then try this. /Bob author_spacing_test.lyx Description: application/lyx
Re: greek fonts
On 11.06.08, Anthony Campbell wrote:
It still doesn't work here. That is, the tilde comes out before the
letter, not on top of it.
But I think this is something to do with the current version of Latex,
not Lyx, because the same thing is now happening in native Latex as
well.
Strange.
Looks like I shall have to give up trying to write Greek in Lyx and
Latex for the time being, unless someone fixes it. This is on Debian
Sid.
I use Debian/testing and do not have the problems.
Could you try with the two attached latex files?
\documentclass[polutonikogreek,british]{article}
\usepackage{mathpazo}
\usepackage[T1]{fontenc}
\usepackage[latin9,iso-8859-7]{inputenc}
\usepackage{babel}
\begin{document}
\selectlanguage{british}%
\inputencoding{latin9}
\section*{polutonikogreek document}
\selectlanguage{polutonikogreek}%
\inputencoding{iso-8859-7}
this is me~ant t\^o b`e in Gre'ek
\selectlanguage{british}%
\inputencoding{latin9}This prints a tilde before the letter:
\inputencoding{iso-8859-7}\foreignlanguage{polutonikogreek}{\textasciitilde{}h.}
\inputencoding{latin9}This only works in polutonik (classic) Greek but drops
the tilde in modern Greek:
\inputencoding{iso-8859-7}\foreignlanguage{polutonikogreek}{~h, ~h.}
\inputencoding{latin9}This only works in monotonik (modern) Greek:
\inputencoding{iso-8859-7}\foreignlanguage{polutonikogreek}{\~{h}.}
\inputencoding{latin9}This works in both, polutonik and monotonik (modern)
Greek:
\inputencoding{iso-8859-7}\foreignlanguage{polutonikogreek}{\~h.}
\end{document}
\documentclass[greek,british]{article}
\usepackage{mathpazo}
\usepackage[T1]{fontenc}
\usepackage[latin9,iso-8859-7]{inputenc}
\usepackage{babel}
\begin{document}
\selectlanguage{british}%
\inputencoding{latin9}
\section*{greek document}
\selectlanguage{greek}%
\inputencoding{iso-8859-7}
this is me~ant to b`e in Gre'ek
\selectlanguage{british}%
\inputencoding{latin9}This prints a tilde before the letter:
\inputencoding{iso-8859-7}\foreignlanguage{greek}{\textasciitilde{}h.}
\inputencoding{latin9}This only works in polutonik (classic) Greek but drops
the tilde in modern Greek:
\inputencoding{iso-8859-7}\foreignlanguage{greek}{~h, ~h.}
\inputencoding{latin9}This only works in monotonik (modern) Greek:
\inputencoding{iso-8859-7}\foreignlanguage{greek}{\~{h}.}
\inputencoding{latin9}This works in both, polutonik and monotonik (modern)
Greek:
\inputencoding{iso-8859-7}\foreignlanguage{greek}{\~h.}
\end{document}
Re: greek fonts
On 11 Jun 2008, G. Milde wrote: On 11.06.08, Anthony Campbell wrote: It still doesn't work here. That is, the tilde comes out before the letter, not on top of it. But I think this is something to do with the current version of Latex, not Lyx, because the same thing is now happening in native Latex as well. Strange. Looks like I shall have to give up trying to write Greek in Lyx and Latex for the time being, unless someone fixes it. This is on Debian Sid. I use Debian/testing and do not have the problems. Could you try with the two attached latex files? OK: polytonikogreek document works partly; greek document works almost correctly except that the second line doesn't print any tildes at all. I attach the dvi files so that you can see what happens. Anthony -- Anthony Campbell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Microsoft-free zone - Using Debian GNU/Linux http://www.acampbell.org.uk (blog, book reviews, and sceptical articles) polytonikogreek-test-campbell.dvi Description: TeX dvi file greek-test-campbell.dvi Description: TeX dvi file
Re: Line spacing in author
Bob Lounsbury skrev: On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Rune Schjellerup Philosof [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob Lounsbury skrev: On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 3:37 AM, Rune Schjellerup Philosof [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to change the line spacing in the author environment (in a report). Lyx shows the change perfectly, but when I view it in pdf or dvi the line spacing setting is ignored. Even when I try to insert vertical spaces they are partly ignored. Actually the size of first vertical space in author is used for the second one, and no space is shown where the first one is. Also, try making the first one a VFill and the document won't compile. From what I found on the internet, Authors should be added with the, \and, command with the command being put in ERT. Also, using ERT line breaks, \\, rather than the LyX ctrl-enter seems to work better for me. I've attached an example. I did not know that about \and. But that wasn't really what I was having trouble with. Also in your example, the spacing between the lines of the author name, and the university name is not double, as the paragraph has been set. Ok. Then try this. Well, I forgot to tell, I actually don't want double spacing, but 1.5 or something. I guess I should report it as a bug.
Re: Line spacing in author
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 10:04 AM, Rune Schjellerup Philosof [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob Lounsbury skrev: On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Rune Schjellerup Philosof [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob Lounsbury skrev: On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 3:37 AM, Rune Schjellerup Philosof [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to change the line spacing in the author environment (in a report). Lyx shows the change perfectly, but when I view it in pdf or dvi the line spacing setting is ignored. Even when I try to insert vertical spaces they are partly ignored. Actually the size of first vertical space in author is used for the second one, and no space is shown where the first one is. Also, try making the first one a VFill and the document won't compile. From what I found on the internet, Authors should be added with the, \and, command with the command being put in ERT. Also, using ERT line breaks, \\, rather than the LyX ctrl-enter seems to work better for me. I've attached an example. I did not know that about \and. But that wasn't really what I was having trouble with. Also in your example, the spacing between the lines of the author name, and the university name is not double, as the paragraph has been set. Ok. Then try this. Well, I forgot to tell, I actually don't want double spacing, but 1.5 or something. I guess I should report it as a bug. Ok, now you're just being picky :-}. I don't think this is a bug, what you are trying to do is not standard LaTeX formatting within an author environment. Anyways, I seem to have fixed the bug by using ctrl-enter at the start of the next author rather than the end of the author. See the attached example. Cheers, /Bob author_spacing_test.lyx Description: application/lyx
Re: Line spacing in author
Bob Lounsbury skrev: On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 10:04 AM, Rune Schjellerup Philosof [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob Lounsbury skrev: On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Rune Schjellerup Philosof [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob Lounsbury skrev: On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 3:37 AM, Rune Schjellerup Philosof [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to change the line spacing in the author environment (in a report). Lyx shows the change perfectly, but when I view it in pdf or dvi the line spacing setting is ignored. Even when I try to insert vertical spaces they are partly ignored. Actually the size of first vertical space in author is used for the second one, and no space is shown where the first one is. Also, try making the first one a VFill and the document won't compile. From what I found on the internet, Authors should be added with the, \and, command with the command being put in ERT. Also, using ERT line breaks, \\, rather than the LyX ctrl-enter seems to work better for me. I've attached an example. I did not know that about \and. But that wasn't really what I was having trouble with. Also in your example, the spacing between the lines of the author name, and the university name is not double, as the paragraph has been set. Ok. Then try this. Well, I forgot to tell, I actually don't want double spacing, but 1.5 or something. I guess I should report it as a bug. Ok, now you're just being picky :-}. I don't think this is a bug, what you are trying to do is not standard LaTeX formatting within an author environment. Anyways, I seem to have fixed the bug by using ctrl-enter at the start of the next author rather than the end of the author. See the attached example. Cheers, /Bob Nice, the workaround seems to work. Anoying when LaTeX is so much worse at producing the desired result than Lyx. And no errormessages, even though they probably wouldn't have made much sense, they rarely do. -- Rune
Spell checking problems
Hello, LyX 1.5.3 on Mepis Linux does not seem to be able to make use of any of my spell checking libraries. I'm pretty sure I have them all installed - ispell, aspell, etc; American and British English. With ispell I get: The spellchecker could not be started Can't open /usr/lib/ispell/english.hash I think this may be because the file is not called english.hash, but british.hash. Any suggestions? Thanks, Ryan
Short indexes reference
Hello all, this is my first time in this very useful forum! As a historian (of opera) I use the analytical index to refer to people's name and sometimes to their works. But I find really annoying to write every single time in the index line Verdi, Giuseppe) in Lyx (or a LaTeX editor). Additionally, when I'm talking about - say - Verdi's opera Aida for a nested index (very nice and useful) I have to write in the index line Verdi, [EMAIL PROTECTED] to have it correctly nested and emphasized. That's crazy (and I'm still lucky it's a short reference and not Amilcare Ponchielli's Il Figliuol Prodigo!!!). There should be a way to write only a sort of conventional label (as for bibliography) for example VerdiAida or simply Aida which refer to a correctly formatted index reference somewhere else (the preamble?) and only ONCE for all!!! I'm not refering to the aliases in the index (I already use): i don't want my index to refer VerdiAida, see Verdi, Giuseppe / Aida, of course!!! Please help me, sure there's an answer! Another - silly - question: how can I BY KEYBOARD open (and close) an index box or a TeX box in Lyx? Thanks! -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Short-indexes-reference-tp17784790p17784790.html Sent from the LyX - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Re: Line spacing in author
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 12:25 PM, Rune Schjellerup Philosof [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nice, the workaround seems to work. Anoying when LaTeX is so much worse at producing the desired result than Lyx. And no errormessages, even though they probably wouldn't have made much sense, they rarely do. -- Rune I'm confused? It wasn't a workaround and neither LaTeX nor LyX is annoying. Also, there were no error messages because it wasn't an error, other than maybe user error. What we learned was the proper way of formatting the entries in LyX and hence LaTeX. LyX is nothing more than a gui frontend for LaTeX. Both LaTeX and LyX produce the exact same result. I've attached the example using ERT LaTeX commands to produce the exact same result as what we've done with native LyX commands, which are nothing more than a frontend to LaTeX commands. As you can see LyX and LaTeX output are identical. Example: When you insert ctrl-enter in LyX you are actually inserting \\ in the document. You can see this by using View-View Source that shows you how your document is being formatted as you enter things in the LyX WYSIWYG interface to LaTeX. Hope that helps explain things. You have to insert the proper syntax to get the proper output. Cheers, /Bob
Re: Line spacing in author
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 1:34 PM, Bob Lounsbury [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 12:25 PM, Rune Schjellerup Philosof [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nice, the workaround seems to work. Anoying when LaTeX is so much worse at producing the desired result than Lyx. And no errormessages, even though they probably wouldn't have made much sense, they rarely do. -- Rune I'm confused? It wasn't a workaround and neither LaTeX nor LyX is annoying. Also, there were no error messages because it wasn't an error, other than maybe user error. What we learned was the proper way of formatting the entries in LyX and hence LaTeX. LyX is nothing more than a gui frontend for LaTeX. Both LaTeX and LyX produce the exact same result. I've attached the example using ERT LaTeX commands to produce the exact same result as what we've done with native LyX commands, which are nothing more than a frontend to LaTeX commands. As you can see LyX and LaTeX output are identical. Example: When you insert ctrl-enter in LyX you are actually inserting \\ in the document. You can see this by using View-View Source that shows you how your document is being formatted as you enter things in the LyX WYSIWYG interface to LaTeX. Hope that helps explain things. You have to insert the proper syntax to get the proper output. Cheers, /Bob Sorry, forgot the attachment. author_spacing_test.lyx Description: application/lyx
Re: Line spacing in author
Bob Lounsbury skrev: I agree there are usability issues, but once you play with the program more you get used to those and they transform from usability issues to LaTeX formatting guidelines :-}. Then you learn how to work with those guidelines. Hope you keep plugging away with LyX, it really is a great program. You misunderstood what kind of user I am. You don't need to convince me to use LyX. I have happily used LyX for my bachelor thesis, for various courses, and now for my masters thesis. LyX is a great addition to the LaTeX toolkit. However, I just think it could be better (which I'm sure 1.6 will be). And I still see the line spacing issue as a bug (maybe just rated as a feature request). -- Rune
Re: greek fonts (summary?)
Question to the developers: Would it be possible to pass the tilde '~'
to LaTeX as-is if the language is set to polutonikogreek?
please correct me if i'm wrong, but i think this is wrong direction.
how will you determine nonbreak. space vs tilde accent then?
The same way as polutonikogreek.def: \nobreakspace vs. ~
before sinking into this issue i still don't understand why polutonikogreek
is needed, see below.
When you put tilde-accent into the command buffer and then strike the
desired key, tilde is not working for you?
It works in LyX but not in the printout.
yes i found this already ;(
tex output is then \~{character}.
which works well with (modern) greek but not with polutonikogreek.
i would like to summarize the my understanding of the problems i encountered,
please comment on:
1. Screen painting.
after installing unicode fonts for X displaying ancient greek letters works in
lyx
without problems.
2. LaTeX typeseting.
after installing unicode packages for tex fonts and input encoding utf8x
the documents with ancient greek letters obtained in document via copy paste
from e.g. wikipedia or through symbols dialog in lyx 1.6 work without problems,
no switch to polutonikogreek needed, just greek language is enough.
3. Input of ancient greek letters into the document.
a) pasting the (whole) unicode character from outside works
b) using the keystroke of ~+char does not work - instead of accented character
we get two characters.
c) using lfun accent-tilde+char basically(*) works as far as screen painting
concerened,
but fails badly once you try to typeset the document.
the key issue is why 3c fails. guessing from the output the culprit is that when
accent-tilde is used with some char, it does not produce 'single' character but
it produces combined unicode character (i.e. accent char+normal char). iirc
this is correct
from the unicode point of view - single accented char is equivalent to
combining char + normal letter. this works on the screen, however utf8x is not
able to
decode the second case unless we use \unicodecombine macro in tex output.
i see more ways how this could be fixed, but we should firstly agree that THIS
is the
culprit.
once 3c is fixed, 3b is easily fixable by adding shortcut for ~ - accent-tilde
call
(or even hard code ~ as a dead key).
pavel
(3c*) there are few minor issues how the 'combined' chars cause editing
problems inside
lyx - backspace key is not always able to delete accent char, one must put it
into selection
to get rid of it, there is also issue with source view panel for which i
already filed
new bug report (4946).
Re: greek fonts (summary?)
Pavel Sanda skrev: (or even hard code ~ as a dead key). On some keyboard layouts ~ is a dead key by default (danish for instance). My guess is that people, who wish to write greek, use such a keyboard layout (or changes to one). I wonder why tilde is a dead key on danish keyboards, we don't have any chars in our alphabet that use a tilde accent. I guess someone once thought that tilde would only be used for languages, where it is an accent, and then defaulted it to dead? Then that someone thought wrong, or the one who chose ~ for homedir shortcut chose wrong :) ã õ ñ -- Mvh Rune
Re: conversion to open doc format and tables
Maria Gouskova wrote: > Does anyone know why conversion from LyX to Open Document format adds > blank rows to tables? I'd say about three extra blank rows in the Open > Doc file for each row in the original LyX document. Even when the > simplest table is converted, an extra cell is added at the bottom. > > Mac OS 10.5.3, LyX 1.5.5 This is a bug in tex4ht, the LaTeX to ODT converter. > Is there any way around this? I just submitted a bug report to the tex4ht maintainer, and he informed me that he will look into the problem. Jürgen
Re: greek fonts
On 10.06.08, Pavel Sanda wrote: > > On 10.06.08, Pavel Sanda wrote: > > > > > now the next step :) i see latex error that utf8x.def file is missing. > > > > Where you able to select utf8x font encoding from the LyX gui? > i dont think this is possible. My mistake. You cannot choose font encoding from lyx. It should have read *input encoding* which in lyx is available under Document>Settings>Language>Encoding > which was set to utf8x in your previous file. > > Normally LyX checks the package availability for any extensions, so this > > might count as a (minor) LyX bug, > no i dont have this package locally, so its not lyx problem. It is a lyx problem if you can actively set Document>Settings>Language>Encoding to utf8x while the package ucs (and hence utf8x.def) is not installed. Could you test whether you can change the encoding to something else and back to utf8x (before installing ucs)? Of course it is not a lyx problem, if you can open view and edit my file even if it specifies an encoding your system does not support. ;-) Günter
Re: pgf and external table plot
> > > > [referencing external file inside ERT] > > > > It occurs to me that a simpler solution might be to put an absolute > reference to the file in the ERT. LyX still will not copy it to the > temp directory, but it won't need to. Hmm that makes sense, good idea :) Is there a way to have the absolute path where the source lyx files reside expanded by a macro or somehow? - Willem
Re: pgf and external table plot
Willem van Engen wrote: [referencing external file inside ERT] It occurs to me that a simpler solution might be to put an absolute reference to the file in the ERT. LyX still will not copy it to the temp directory, but it won't need to. Hmm that makes sense, good idea :) Is there a way to have the absolute path where the source lyx files reside expanded by a macro or somehow? Not in 1.5 AFAIK, in 1.6 you'll have InsetInfo for that kind of information. Abdel.
Re: greek fonts
> > > Normally LyX checks the package availability for any extensions, so this > > > might count as a (minor) LyX bug, > > > no i dont have this package locally, so its not lyx problem. > > It is a lyx problem if you can actively set > Document>Settings>Language>Encoding to utf8x while the package ucs (and > hence utf8x.def) is not installed. > > Could you test whether you can change the encoding to something else and > back to utf8x (before installing ucs)? yes i can. anyway i think you should be able to select encoding for which your tex distribution hasn't support, because at least editing works and and in some cases that is enough. pavel
Re: greek fonts
> On 10 Jun 2008, G. Milde wrote: > > On 10.06.08, Anthony Campbell wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > I tried to use Lyx for ancient Greek but the circumflex (tilde) > > > > > > > keeps > > > > > > > appearing before the letter instead of above it. > > > > > > > > In most fonts, even in the "Standard glyph list" of the Unicode > > > > consortium and fonts from the Greek Font Society, the accents are > > > > written > > > > before the letter for capital letters and over the letter for small > > > > letters. > > > > > All the accents appear correctly over the letters except for the > > > circumflex (tilde). But in plain Latex the circumlex is correct. > > > > Could you post a *small* example file (lyx and tex)? > > > > Günter > > 1. Greek lyx: can you send it as a normal attachment? pavel
Re: greek fonts
On 10 Jun 2008, G. Milde wrote:
> On 10.06.08, Anthony Campbell wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I tried to use Lyx for ancient Greek but the circumflex (tilde)
> > > > > > keeps
> > > > > > appearing before the letter instead of above it.
> > >
> > > In most fonts, even in the "Standard glyph list" of the Unicode
> > > consortium and fonts from the Greek Font Society, the accents are written
> > > before the letter for capital letters and over the letter for small
> > > letters.
>
> > All the accents appear correctly over the letters except for the
> > circumflex (tilde). But in plain Latex the circumlex is correct.
>
> Could you post a *small* example file (lyx and tex)?
>
> Günter
1. Greek lyx:
#LyX 1.5.5 created this file. For more info see http://www.lyx.org/
\lyxformat 276
\begin_document
\begin_header
\textclass book
\begin_preamble
% This file was converted from HTML to LaTeX with
% Tomasz Wegrzanowski's <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> gnuhtml2latex program
% Version : 0.1
\end_preamble
\language greek
\inputencoding auto
\font_roman palatino
\font_sans default
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\spacing other 1.1
\papersize custom
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\use_esint 0
\cite_engine basic
\use_bibtopic false
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\begin_body
\begin_layout Standard
this is me~ant to b`e >in Gre'ek
\end_layout
\begin_layout Standard
\end_layout
\end_body
\end_document
--
2. Greek Tex
\documentclass{article}
\usepackage[polutonikogreek]{babel}
\usepackage[iso-8859-7]{inputenc}
\begin{document}
\selectlanguage{polutonikogreek}
\Large
Per`i t~hs >amuntik~hs leitourg'ias t~hs >ekklhsiastik~hs gl'wssas
Ðåñ`é ô~çó >áìõíôéê~çó ëåéôïõñã'éáó ô~çó >åêêëçóéáóôéê~çó ãë'ùóóáò
\bigskip
>H
Line spacing in author
Hi I'm trying to change the line spacing in the author environment (in a report). Lyx shows the change perfectly, but when I view it in pdf or dvi the line spacing setting is ignored. Even when I try to insert vertical spaces they are partly ignored. Actually the size of first vertical space in author is used for the second one, and no space is shown where the first one is. Also, try making the first one a VFill and the document won't compile. -- Rune author_spacing.lyx Description: application/lyx
Re: greek fonts
On 11 Jun 2008, Pavel Sanda wrote: > > On 10 Jun 2008, G. Milde wrote: > > > On 10.06.08, Anthony Campbell wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I tried to use Lyx for ancient Greek but the circumflex (tilde) > > > > > > > > keeps > > > > > > > > appearing before the letter instead of above it. > > > > > > > > > > In most fonts, even in the "Standard glyph list" of the Unicode > > > > > consortium and fonts from the Greek Font Society, the accents are > > > > > written > > > > > before the letter for capital letters and over the letter for small > > > > > letters. > > > > > > > All the accents appear correctly over the letters except for the > > > > circumflex (tilde). But in plain Latex the circumlex is correct. > > > > > > Could you post a *small* example file (lyx and tex)? > > > > > > Günter > > > > 1. Greek lyx: > > can you send it as a normal attachment? > pavel I'm not sure what you mean. It's plain ascii. -- Anthony Campbell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Microsoft-free zone - Using Debian GNU/Linux http://www.acampbell.org.uk (blog, book reviews, and sceptical articles)
Re: greek fonts
Anthony Campbell skrev: On 11 Jun 2008, Pavel Sanda wrote: On 10 Jun 2008, G. Milde wrote: On 10.06.08, Anthony Campbell wrote: I tried to use Lyx for ancient Greek but the circumflex (tilde) keeps appearing before the letter instead of above it. In most fonts, even in the "Standard glyph list" of the Unicode consortium and fonts from the Greek Font Society, the accents are written before the letter for capital letters and over the letter for small letters. All the accents appear correctly over the letters except for the circumflex (tilde). But in plain Latex the circumlex is correct. Could you post a *small* example file (lyx and tex)? Günter 1. Greek lyx: can you send it as a normal attachment? pavel I'm not sure what you mean. It's plain ascii. He means like I attached a lyx file in my "linespacing in author" mail sent a few minutes ago.
Re: greek fonts
On 11 Jun 2008, Rune Schjellerup Philosof wrote: > Anthony Campbell skrev: >> On 11 Jun 2008, Pavel Sanda wrote: >> On 10 Jun 2008, G. Milde wrote: > On 10.06.08, Anthony Campbell wrote: > >> I tried to use Lyx for ancient Greek but the circumflex (tilde) keeps >> appearing before the letter instead of above it. >> >>> In most fonts, even in the "Standard glyph list" of the Unicode >>> consortium and fonts from the Greek Font Society, the accents are >>> written >>> before the letter for capital letters and over the letter for small >>> letters. >> All the accents appear correctly over the letters except for the >> circumflex (tilde). But in plain Latex the circumlex is correct. >> > Could you post a *small* example file (lyx and tex)? > > Günter > 1. Greek lyx: >>> can you send it as a normal attachment? >>> pavel >>> >> >> I'm not sure what you mean. It's plain ascii. >> > He means like I attached a lyx file in my "linespacing in author" mail > sent a few minutes ago. That seems to be the same thing but with carriage returns. Off-hand I'm not sure how to do that thought I think it's possible in vim. But the whole thing is getting extremely complicated so I think I'll just stick with plain Latex. Thanks to everyone for help. Anthony -- Anthony Campbell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Microsoft-free zone - Using Debian GNU/Linux http://www.acampbell.org.uk (blog, book reviews, and sceptical articles)
Nomenclature
Hi I'm trying to make a nomenclature list, however, does some strange things. If I put a nomenclature (MS) in a section environment then the list becomes: LC Liquid Chromatography, page 13 MS MASS SPECTROMETRY, page 8–10 MS MASS SPECTROMETRY, page 11 MS MASS SPECTROMETRY, page 12, 13 MS Mass spectrometry, page 1 MS Mass spectrometry, page 8 PTM Post Translational Modification, page 14 Some of it is quite nice, but It really should only contain one entry for MS. MS Mass spectrometry, page 8-13 I don't why it writes the entries in upper case, why it separates page 11 out instead creating the 8-13 range, or why it also includes a reference to the TOC (page 1). I have also tried inserting the same nomenclature (DDA and ESI) several time in a standard environment, to see it was able to make a range then: DDA Fragmentation method for mass spectrometry, page 6 DDA Fragmentation method for mass spectrometry, page 15, 16 ESI Electrospray Ionization, page 9, 10 ESI Electrospray Ionization, page 11 But as you can see, for some reason it does not write 6, 15, 16 for DDA and 9-11 for ESI. -- Regards Rune
Re: greek fonts
On 11.06.08, Anthony Campbell wrote: > On 10 Jun 2008, G. Milde wrote: > > On 10.06.08, Anthony Campbell wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > I tried to use Lyx for ancient Greek but the circumflex > > > > > > > (tilde) keeps appearing before the letter instead of above > > > > > > > it. Unfortunately, lyx currently only supports modern Greek, but has no support for polytonic Greek (babel option polutonikogreek). However, this can be easily fixed by adding polutonikogreek to the languages file and re-configuring: --- /usr/share/lyx/languages2008-05-14 11:36:44.0 +0200 +++ ~/.lyx/languages2008-06-11 13:09:27.0 +0200 @@ -36,6 +36,7 @@ german german "German"false iso8859-15 de_DE "" ngerman ngerman"German (new spelling)" false iso8859-15 de_DE "" greek greek "Greek" false iso8859-7 el_GR "" +polutonikogreek polutonikogreek"Greek (polytonic)" false iso8859-7 el_GR "" hebrew hebrew "Hebrew"true cp1255 he_IL "" #hungarian hungarian "Hungarian" false iso8859-2 hu_HU "" irish irish "Irish" false iso8859-15 ga_IE "" With this fix, your lyx example can be set to use the language "Greek (polytonic)". However, as the tilde acts as a non-breakable space in LaTeX, it is escaped by LyX (converted to \asciitilde) and hence the example will only work right, if you put the tilde (or the whole text) in an ERT box or just insert a non-breakable space instead. See the attached example. Question to the developers: Would it be possible to pass the tilde '~' to LaTeX as-is if the language is set to polutonikogreek? > > > All the accents appear correctly over the letters except for the > > > circumflex (tilde). But in plain Latex the circumflex is correct. A tilde is not a circumflex: Character '~' (126, 0x7E) 007E TILDE Character '^' (94, 0x5E) 005E CIRCUMFLEX ACCENT > 2. Greek Tex ... Now I see. Your example uses polutonikogreek. With greek, the tilde is replaced by a space. With the above patch, I can import your latex example, set the language to Greek (polytonic) and it displays as expected. With Document>Settings>Language>Encoding set to utf8x, LyX can handle accented (polytonic) Greek characters like the example 2 copied directly from the Wikipedia even with language == Greek. Günter greek-test-campbell.lyx Description: application/lyx greek-german-test.lyx Description: application/lyx
Re: greek fonts
On 11.06.08, Pavel Sanda wrote: > > > > Normally LyX checks the package availability for any extensions, > > > > so this might count as a (minor) LyX bug, > > > > > no i dont have this package locally, so its not lyx problem. > > > > It is a lyx problem if you can actively set > > Document>Settings>Language>Encoding to utf8x while the package ucs (and > > hence utf8x.def) is not installed. > > > > Could you test whether you can change the encoding to something else and > > back to utf8x (before installing ucs)? > yes i can. anyway i think you should be able to select encoding for which > your tex distribution hasn't support, because at least editing works and > and in some cases that is enough. But this is inconsistent with handling of other extensions. Editing in LyX works even without any tex distribution, still reconfigure checks availability of fonts, classes and packages -- but not inputenc nor ucs. Günter
Re: greek fonts
> With this fix, your lyx example can be set to use the language "Greek
> (polytonic)".
>
> However, as the tilde acts as a non-breakable space in LaTeX, it is
> escaped by LyX (converted to \asciitilde) and hence the example will only
> work right, if you put the tilde (or the whole text) in an ERT box or
> just insert a non-breakable space instead.
>
> See the attached example.
>
> Question to the developers: Would it be possible to pass the tilde '~'
> to LaTeX as-is if the language is set to polutonikogreek?
please correct me if i'm wrong, but i think this is wrong direction. how will
you determine nonbreak. space vs tilde accent then?
Anthony wrote that he does not see tilde over character, but i dont have any
problems with
it. When you put "tilde-accent" into the command buffer and then strike the
desired key,
tilde is not working for you? tex output is then \~{character}.
pavel
Re: greek fonts
> it. When you put "tilde-accent" into the command buffer and then strike the > desired key, sorry i meant "accent-tilde" > > pavel
Re: greek fonts
> > is tetex supposed to work with the chosen encoding or do i need texlive?
> > what tex distribution do you use?
>
> utf8x.def is part of the "ucs" package for comprehensive unicode support.
>
> I use the texlive packages from Debian/testing which contain ucs in
> texlive-latex-recommended.
>
> I do not know whether ucs is part of tetex (or which tetex package it is
> in). But tetex should cooperate with it if you locally install ucs from
> CTAN.
just for archive purposes gentoo has ucs hidden under dev-tex/latex-unicode
package. i also got complaint about missing beramono.sty so dev-tex/bera
packages was needed too.
after removing \usepackage{kerkis} from preamble of the file you posted
i see everything correctly in postscript output.
pavel
Re: greek fonts
> But this is inconsistent with handling of other extensions. > Editing in LyX works even without any tex distribution, still > reconfigure checks availability of fonts, classes and packages -- > but not inputenc nor ucs. which is a different story then prohibit this encoding ;) pavel
Re: greek fonts
On 11 Jun 2008, G. Milde wrote: > > Unfortunately, lyx currently only supports modern Greek, but has no > support for polytonic Greek (babel option polutonikogreek). > > However, this can be easily fixed by adding polutonikogreek to the > languages file and re-configuring: > > --- /usr/share/lyx/languages 2008-05-14 11:36:44.0 +0200 > +++ ~/.lyx/languages 2008-06-11 13:09:27.0 +0200 > @@ -36,6 +36,7 @@ > german german "German"false iso8859-15 de_DE "" > ngerman ngerman "German (new spelling)" false iso8859-15 de_DE "" > greek greek"Greek" false iso8859-7 el_GR "" > +polutonikogreek polutonikogreek "Greek (polytonic)" false > iso8859-7 el_GR "" > hebrew hebrew "Hebrew"true cp1255 he_IL "" > #hungarian hungarian "Hungarian" false iso8859-2 hu_HU "" > irish irish"Irish" false iso8859-15 ga_IE "" > > > With this fix, your lyx example can be set to use the language "Greek > (polytonic)". > > However, as the tilde acts as a non-breakable space in LaTeX, it is > escaped by LyX (converted to \asciitilde) and hence the example will only > work right, if you put the tilde (or the whole text) in an ERT box or > just insert a non-breakable space instead. > > See the attached example. > > Question to the developers: Would it be possible to pass the tilde '~' > to LaTeX as-is if the language is set to polutonikogreek? > > > > > > All the accents appear correctly over the letters except for the > > > > circumflex (tilde). But in plain Latex the circumflex is correct. > > A tilde is not a circumflex: > > Character '~' (126, 0x7E) 007ETILDE > Character '^' (94, 0x5E) 005E CIRCUMFLEX ACCENT > > > > 2. Greek Tex > ... > > Now I see. > > Your example uses polutonikogreek. > With greek, the tilde is replaced by a space. > > With the above patch, I can import your latex example, set the language > to Greek (polytonic) and it displays as expected. > > > With Document>Settings>Language>Encoding set to utf8x, LyX can handle > accented (polytonic) Greek characters like the example 2 copied directly > from the Wikipedia even with language == Greek. > > Günter It still doesn't work here. That is, the tilde comes out before the letter, not on top of it. But I think this is something to do with the current version of Latex, not Lyx, because the same thing is now happening in native Latex as well. Looks like I shall have to give up trying to write Greek in Lyx and Latex for the time being, unless someone fixes it. This is on Debian Sid. I haven't tried in my rather ancient version of Ubuntu. Anthony -- Anthony Campbell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Microsoft-free zone - Using Debian GNU/Linux http://www.acampbell.org.uk (blog, book reviews, and sceptical articles)
Re: Line spacing in author
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 3:37 AM, Rune Schjellerup Philosof <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi > > I'm trying to change the line spacing in the author environment (in a > report). > Lyx shows the change perfectly, but when I view it in pdf or dvi the line > spacing setting is ignored. > Even when I try to insert vertical spaces they are partly ignored. > Actually the size of first vertical space in author is used for the second > one, and no space is shown where the first one is. > > Also, try making the first one a VFill and the document won't compile. > > -- > Rune > >From what I found on the internet, Authors should be added with the, \and, command with the command being put in ERT. Also, using ERT line breaks, \\, rather than the LyX ctrl->enter seems to work better for me. I've attached an example. Cheers, /Bob author_spacing_test.lyx Description: application/lyx
Re: Line spacing in author
Bob Lounsbury skrev: On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 3:37 AM, Rune Schjellerup Philosof <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi I'm trying to change the line spacing in the author environment (in a report). Lyx shows the change perfectly, but when I view it in pdf or dvi the line spacing setting is ignored. Even when I try to insert vertical spaces they are partly ignored. Actually the size of first vertical space in author is used for the second one, and no space is shown where the first one is. Also, try making the first one a VFill and the document won't compile. From what I found on the internet, Authors should be added with the, \and, command with the command being put in ERT. Also, using ERT line breaks, \\, rather than the LyX ctrl->enter seems to work better for me. I've attached an example. I did not know that about \and. But that wasn't really what I was having trouble with. Also in your example, the spacing between the lines of the author name, and the university name is not double, as the paragraph has been set. -- Rune
Re: greek fonts
> On 11 Jun 2008, G. Milde wrote: > It still doesn't work here. That is, the tilde comes out before the > letter, not on top of it. > > But I think this is something to do with the current version of Latex, > not Lyx, because the same thing is now happening in native Latex as > well. > > Looks like I shall have to give up trying to write Greek in Lyx and > Latex for the time being, unless someone fixes it. This is on Debian > Sid. I haven't tried in my rather ancient version of Ubuntu. thats strange, i can typeset Guenter's example file without problems. and without any polutonikogreek etc. just greek language and utf8x input encoding is enough. thing which indeed seems to be broken in lyx is direct typing of these accented characters into the document. but once you put the character via clipboard or symbols dialog in 1.6 i see no problem. both screen and postscipt result are just fine. i will raise that input-typing issue on devel list soon. pavel
Re: greek fonts
On 11.06.08, Pavel Sanda wrote:
> > Question to the developers: Would it be possible to pass the tilde '~'
> > to LaTeX as-is if the language is set to polutonikogreek?
> please correct me if i'm wrong, but i think this is wrong direction.
> how will you determine nonbreak. space vs tilde accent then?
The same way as polutonikogreek.def: \nobreakspace vs. ~
> Anthony wrote that he does not see tilde over character, but i dont
> have any problems with it.
So we have to find out what is different in Anthony's case.
> When you put "tilde-accent" into the command buffer and then strike the
> desired key, tilde is not working for you?
It works in LyX but not in the printout.
> tex output is then \~{character}.
which works well with (modern) "greek" but not with "polutonikogreek".
See the attached examples.
Günter
greek-test-campbell.lyx
Description: application/lyx
polutonikogreek-test-campbell.lyx
Description: application/lyx
Re: Line spacing in author
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Rune Schjellerup Philosof <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bob Lounsbury skrev: >> >> On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 3:37 AM, Rune Schjellerup Philosof >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi >>> >>> I'm trying to change the line spacing in the author environment (in a >>> report). >>> Lyx shows the change perfectly, but when I view it in pdf or dvi the line >>> spacing setting is ignored. >>> Even when I try to insert vertical spaces they are partly ignored. >>> Actually the size of first vertical space in author is used for the >>> second >>> one, and no space is shown where the first one is. >>> >>> Also, try making the first one a VFill and the document won't compile. >>> >>> >> >> From what I found on the internet, Authors should be added with the, >> \and, command with the command being put in ERT. Also, using ERT line >> breaks, \\, rather than the LyX ctrl->enter seems to work better for >> me. I've attached an example. >> > > I did not know that about \and. > But that wasn't really what I was having trouble with. > Also in your example, the spacing between the lines of the author name, and > the university name is not double, as the paragraph has been set. > > -- > Rune > Ok. Then try this. /Bob author_spacing_test.lyx Description: application/lyx
Re: greek fonts
On 11.06.08, Anthony Campbell wrote:
> It still doesn't work here. That is, the tilde comes out before the
> letter, not on top of it.
> But I think this is something to do with the current version of Latex,
> not Lyx, because the same thing is now happening in native Latex as
> well.
Strange.
> Looks like I shall have to give up trying to write Greek in Lyx and
> Latex for the time being, unless someone fixes it. This is on Debian
> Sid.
I use Debian/testing and do not have the problems.
Could you try with the two attached latex files?
\documentclass[polutonikogreek,british]{article}
\usepackage{mathpazo}
\usepackage[T1]{fontenc}
\usepackage[latin9,iso-8859-7]{inputenc}
\usepackage{babel}
\begin{document}
\selectlanguage{british}%
\inputencoding{latin9}
\section*{polutonikogreek document}
\selectlanguage{polutonikogreek}%
\inputencoding{iso-8859-7}
this is me~ant t\^o b`e >in Gre'ek
\selectlanguage{british}%
\inputencoding{latin9}This prints a tilde before the letter:
\inputencoding{iso-8859-7}\foreignlanguage{polutonikogreek}{\textasciitilde{}h.}
\inputencoding{latin9}This only works in polutonik (classic) Greek but drops
the tilde in modern Greek:
\inputencoding{iso-8859-7}\foreignlanguage{polutonikogreek}{~h, ~h.}
\inputencoding{latin9}This only works in monotonik (modern) Greek:
\inputencoding{iso-8859-7}\foreignlanguage{polutonikogreek}{\~{h}.}
\inputencoding{latin9}This works in both, polutonik and monotonik (modern)
Greek:
\inputencoding{iso-8859-7}\foreignlanguage{polutonikogreek}{\~h.}
\end{document}
\documentclass[greek,british]{article}
\usepackage{mathpazo}
\usepackage[T1]{fontenc}
\usepackage[latin9,iso-8859-7]{inputenc}
\usepackage{babel}
\begin{document}
\selectlanguage{british}%
\inputencoding{latin9}
\section*{greek document}
\selectlanguage{greek}%
\inputencoding{iso-8859-7}
this is me~ant to b`e >in Gre'ek
\selectlanguage{british}%
\inputencoding{latin9}This prints a tilde before the letter:
\inputencoding{iso-8859-7}\foreignlanguage{greek}{\textasciitilde{}h.}
\inputencoding{latin9}This only works in polutonik (classic) Greek but drops
the tilde in modern Greek:
\inputencoding{iso-8859-7}\foreignlanguage{greek}{~h, ~h.}
\inputencoding{latin9}This only works in monotonik (modern) Greek:
\inputencoding{iso-8859-7}\foreignlanguage{greek}{\~{h}.}
\inputencoding{latin9}This works in both, polutonik and monotonik (modern)
Greek:
\inputencoding{iso-8859-7}\foreignlanguage{greek}{\~h.}
\end{document}
Re: greek fonts
On 11 Jun 2008, G. Milde wrote: > On 11.06.08, Anthony Campbell wrote: > > > It still doesn't work here. That is, the tilde comes out before the > > letter, not on top of it. > > > But I think this is something to do with the current version of Latex, > > not Lyx, because the same thing is now happening in native Latex as > > well. > > Strange. > > > Looks like I shall have to give up trying to write Greek in Lyx and > > Latex for the time being, unless someone fixes it. This is on Debian > > Sid. > > I use Debian/testing and do not have the problems. > > Could you try with the two attached latex files? > OK: "polytonikogreek document" works partly; "greek document" works almost correctly except that the second line doesn't print any tildes at all. I attach the dvi files so that you can see what happens. Anthony -- Anthony Campbell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Microsoft-free zone - Using Debian GNU/Linux http://www.acampbell.org.uk (blog, book reviews, and sceptical articles) polytonikogreek-test-campbell.dvi Description: TeX dvi file greek-test-campbell.dvi Description: TeX dvi file
Re: Line spacing in author
Bob Lounsbury skrev: On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Rune Schjellerup Philosof <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Bob Lounsbury skrev: On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 3:37 AM, Rune Schjellerup Philosof <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm trying to change the line spacing in the author environment (in a report). Lyx shows the change perfectly, but when I view it in pdf or dvi the line spacing setting is ignored. Even when I try to insert vertical spaces they are partly ignored. Actually the size of first vertical space in author is used for the second one, and no space is shown where the first one is. Also, try making the first one a VFill and the document won't compile. From what I found on the internet, Authors should be added with the, \and, command with the command being put in ERT. Also, using ERT line breaks, \\, rather than the LyX ctrl->enter seems to work better for me. I've attached an example. I did not know that about \and. But that wasn't really what I was having trouble with. Also in your example, the spacing between the lines of the author name, and the university name is not double, as the paragraph has been set. Ok. Then try this. Well, I forgot to tell, I actually don't want double spacing, but 1.5 or something. I guess I should report it as a bug.
Re: Line spacing in author
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 10:04 AM, Rune Schjellerup Philosof <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bob Lounsbury skrev: >> >> On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Rune Schjellerup Philosof >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> >>> Bob Lounsbury skrev: >>> On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 3:37 AM, Rune Schjellerup Philosof <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm trying to change the line spacing in the author environment (in a > report). > Lyx shows the change perfectly, but when I view it in pdf or dvi the > line > spacing setting is ignored. > Even when I try to insert vertical spaces they are partly ignored. > Actually the size of first vertical space in author is used for the > second > one, and no space is shown where the first one is. > > Also, try making the first one a VFill and the document won't compile. > From what I found on the internet, Authors should be added with the, \and, command with the command being put in ERT. Also, using ERT line breaks, \\, rather than the LyX ctrl->enter seems to work better for me. I've attached an example. >>> >>> I did not know that about \and. >>> But that wasn't really what I was having trouble with. >>> Also in your example, the spacing between the lines of the author name, >>> and >>> the university name is not double, as the paragraph has been set. >>> >> >> Ok. Then try this. >> > > Well, I forgot to tell, I actually don't want double spacing, but 1.5 or > something. > I guess I should report it as a bug. > Ok, now you're just being picky :-}. I don't think this is a bug, what you are trying to do is not standard LaTeX formatting within an author environment. Anyways, I seem to have fixed the "bug" by using ctrl->enter at the start of the next author rather than the end of the author. See the attached example. Cheers, /Bob author_spacing_test.lyx Description: application/lyx
