Biblatex not not found by LyX work on new computer / OS 10.10.3

2015-07-20 Thread jezZiFeR
Hello,

I have problems using biblatex an my new computer for weeks now, and could not 
find the problem. 

I run LyX 2.1.3 on OS 10.10.3. I installed the current bib latex.module, but it 
could not be found by LyX. Could you please tell me, where the biblatex.module 
has to be placed? LyX/about LyX tells me to put it into:
library/application support/LyX-2.1/

It is not placed exactly there, but has an own folder at that place: /layouts. 
I hope this is fine. It has a .txt-ending, is that correct? 
(biblatex.module.txt)

BTW: On my old system (OSX10.8) it was placed in
/usr/local/texlive/texmf-local/
but in OS 10.10.3 it seems to have a new place.

Thank you!
Jess

Re: Biblatex not not found by LyX work on new computer / OS 10.10.3

2015-07-20 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Montag 20 Juli 2015, 20:12:59 schrieb jezZiFeR:
 I run LyX 2.1.3 on OS 10.10.3. I installed the current bib latex.module, but
 it could not be found by LyX. Could you please tell me, where the
 biblatex.module has to be placed? LyX/about LyX tells me to put it into:
 library/application support/LyX-2.1/
 
 It is not placed exactly there, but has an own folder at that place:
 /layouts. I hope this is fine.

Should be fine. I am not a Mac user, though, 

 It has a .txt-ending, is that correct?
 (biblatex.module.txt)

No. It should be named biblatex.module (*.module is the file suffix).

 
 BTW: On my old system (OSX10.8) it was placed in
 /usr/local/texlive/texmf-local/
 but in OS 10.10.3 it seems to have a new place.

This is the TeX directory. Definitely not the correct place for LyX modules.

Jürgen

 Thank you!
 Jess



Bibliography Formatting

2015-07-20 Thread Rich Shepard

  The natbib doc focuses on citation styles so I suppose that the
biblography style is controlled by bibTeX. I've not before modified bitTeX
and have no idea what or where to modify to produce the output I want.

  The bibliography has the publication year at the end of each listing. I
want it following the author(s) name(s). Please provide a pointer to a doc
that will teach me how to do this.

Rich



Re: Bibliography Formatting

2015-07-20 Thread Benedict Holland
I find, from experience, that the best thing you can do is learn biblatex.
Is this something you are willing to do? It has a very steep learning curve
but is very well documented and supported. Your problem is trivially solved
as well. Lyx can also use biblatex with a small amount of work that also
very well documented.

~Ben

On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 6:22 PM, Rich Shepard rshep...@appl-ecosys.com
wrote:

   The natbib doc focuses on citation styles so I suppose that the
 biblography style is controlled by bibTeX. I've not before modified bitTeX
 and have no idea what or where to modify to produce the output I want.

   The bibliography has the publication year at the end of each listing. I
 want it following the author(s) name(s). Please provide a pointer to a doc
 that will teach me how to do this.

 Rich




Re: Bibliography Formatting

2015-07-20 Thread Rich Shepard

On Mon, 20 Jul 2015, Benedict Holland wrote:


I find, from experience, that the best thing you can do is learn biblatex.
Is this something you are willing to do? It has a very steep learning
curve but is very well documented and supported. Your problem is trivially
solved as well. Lyx can also use biblatex with a small amount of work that
also very well documented.


~Ben,

  Back when I was in grad school (and doing a post-doc) in the early Pleistocene
and publishing in journals the bibliographic style was Author. Year. Title.
Volume:pages. So, that's what I kept doing.

  I see now that the preferred style has apparently changed so that almost
all put the year at the end of the listing. Seems less than useful to me if
the citation is author-year, why not list the bibliography the same way?

  Anywho, it really is a very minor issue. After all, I don't read the
bibliographies in the white papers and other documents I produce for clients
and regulators that have a bibliography and citations in the text. :-) Since
it seems to be a hassle, I'll just let it go (again.)

Thanks,

Rich


Biblatex not not found by LyX work on new computer / OS 10.10.3

2015-07-20 Thread jezZiFeR
Hello,

I have problems using biblatex an my new computer for weeks now, and could not 
find the problem. 

I run LyX 2.1.3 on OS 10.10.3. I installed the current bib latex.module, but it 
could not be found by LyX. Could you please tell me, where the biblatex.module 
has to be placed? LyX/about LyX tells me to put it into:
library/application support/LyX-2.1/

It is not placed exactly there, but has an own folder at that place: /layouts. 
I hope this is fine. It has a .txt-ending, is that correct? 
(biblatex.module.txt)

BTW: On my old system (OSX10.8) it was placed in
/usr/local/texlive/texmf-local/
but in OS 10.10.3 it seems to have a new place.

Thank you!
Jess

Re: Biblatex not not found by LyX work on new computer / OS 10.10.3

2015-07-20 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Montag 20 Juli 2015, 20:12:59 schrieb jezZiFeR:
 I run LyX 2.1.3 on OS 10.10.3. I installed the current bib latex.module, but
 it could not be found by LyX. Could you please tell me, where the
 biblatex.module has to be placed? LyX/about LyX tells me to put it into:
 library/application support/LyX-2.1/
 
 It is not placed exactly there, but has an own folder at that place:
 /layouts. I hope this is fine.

Should be fine. I am not a Mac user, though, 

 It has a .txt-ending, is that correct?
 (biblatex.module.txt)

No. It should be named biblatex.module (*.module is the file suffix).

 
 BTW: On my old system (OSX10.8) it was placed in
 /usr/local/texlive/texmf-local/
 but in OS 10.10.3 it seems to have a new place.

This is the TeX directory. Definitely not the correct place for LyX modules.

Jürgen

 Thank you!
 Jess



Bibliography Formatting

2015-07-20 Thread Rich Shepard

  The natbib doc focuses on citation styles so I suppose that the
biblography style is controlled by bibTeX. I've not before modified bitTeX
and have no idea what or where to modify to produce the output I want.

  The bibliography has the publication year at the end of each listing. I
want it following the author(s) name(s). Please provide a pointer to a doc
that will teach me how to do this.

Rich



Re: Bibliography Formatting

2015-07-20 Thread Rich Shepard

On Mon, 20 Jul 2015, Benedict Holland wrote:


I find, from experience, that the best thing you can do is learn biblatex.
Is this something you are willing to do? It has a very steep learning
curve but is very well documented and supported. Your problem is trivially
solved as well. Lyx can also use biblatex with a small amount of work that
also very well documented.


~Ben,

  Back when I was in grad school (and doing a post-doc) in the early Pleistocene
and publishing in journals the bibliographic style was Author. Year. Title.
Volume:pages. So, that's what I kept doing.

  I see now that the preferred style has apparently changed so that almost
all put the year at the end of the listing. Seems less than useful to me if
the citation is author-year, why not list the bibliography the same way?

  Anywho, it really is a very minor issue. After all, I don't read the
bibliographies in the white papers and other documents I produce for clients
and regulators that have a bibliography and citations in the text. :-) Since
it seems to be a hassle, I'll just let it go (again.)

Thanks,

Rich


Re: Bibliography Formatting

2015-07-20 Thread Benedict Holland
I find, from experience, that the best thing you can do is learn biblatex.
Is this something you are willing to do? It has a very steep learning curve
but is very well documented and supported. Your problem is trivially solved
as well. Lyx can also use biblatex with a small amount of work that also
very well documented.

~Ben

On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 6:22 PM, Rich Shepard rshep...@appl-ecosys.com
wrote:

   The natbib doc focuses on citation styles so I suppose that the
 biblography style is controlled by bibTeX. I've not before modified bitTeX
 and have no idea what or where to modify to produce the output I want.

   The bibliography has the publication year at the end of each listing. I
 want it following the author(s) name(s). Please provide a pointer to a doc
 that will teach me how to do this.

 Rich




Biblatex not not found by LyX work on new computer / OS 10.10.3

2015-07-20 Thread jezZiFeR
Hello,

I have problems using biblatex an my new computer for weeks now, and could not 
find the problem. 

I run LyX 2.1.3 on OS 10.10.3. I installed the current bib latex.module, but it 
could not be found by LyX. Could you please tell me, where the biblatex.module 
has to be placed? LyX/about LyX tells me to put it into:
library/application support/LyX-2.1/

It is not placed exactly there, but has an own folder at that place: /layouts. 
I hope this is fine. It has a .txt-ending, is that correct? 
(biblatex.module.txt)

BTW: On my old system (OSX10.8) it was placed in
/usr/local/texlive/texmf-local/
but in OS 10.10.3 it seems to have a new place.

Thank you!
Jess

Re: Biblatex not not found by LyX work on new computer / OS 10.10.3

2015-07-20 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Montag 20 Juli 2015, 20:12:59 schrieb jezZiFeR:
> I run LyX 2.1.3 on OS 10.10.3. I installed the current bib latex.module, but
> it could not be found by LyX. Could you please tell me, where the
> biblatex.module has to be placed? LyX/about LyX tells me to put it into:
> library/application support/LyX-2.1/
> 
> It is not placed exactly there, but has an own folder at that place:
> /layouts. I hope this is fine.

Should be fine. I am not a Mac user, though, 

> It has a .txt-ending, is that correct?
> (biblatex.module.txt)

No. It should be named biblatex.module (*.module is the file suffix).

> 
> BTW: On my old system (OSX10.8) it was placed in
> /usr/local/texlive/texmf-local/
> but in OS 10.10.3 it seems to have a new place.

This is the TeX directory. Definitely not the correct place for LyX modules.

Jürgen

> Thank you!
> Jess



Bibliography Formatting

2015-07-20 Thread Rich Shepard

  The natbib doc focuses on citation styles so I suppose that the
biblography style is controlled by bibTeX. I've not before modified bitTeX
and have no idea what or where to modify to produce the output I want.

  The bibliography has the publication year at the end of each listing. I
want it following the author(s) name(s). Please provide a pointer to a doc
that will teach me how to do this.

Rich



Re: Bibliography Formatting

2015-07-20 Thread Benedict Holland
I find, from experience, that the best thing you can do is learn biblatex.
Is this something you are willing to do? It has a very steep learning curve
but is very well documented and supported. Your problem is trivially solved
as well. Lyx can also use biblatex with a small amount of work that also
very well documented.

~Ben

On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 6:22 PM, Rich Shepard 
wrote:

>   The natbib doc focuses on citation styles so I suppose that the
> biblography style is controlled by bibTeX. I've not before modified bitTeX
> and have no idea what or where to modify to produce the output I want.
>
>   The bibliography has the publication year at the end of each listing. I
> want it following the author(s) name(s). Please provide a pointer to a doc
> that will teach me how to do this.
>
> Rich
>
>


Re: Bibliography Formatting

2015-07-20 Thread Rich Shepard

On Mon, 20 Jul 2015, Benedict Holland wrote:


I find, from experience, that the best thing you can do is learn biblatex.
Is this something you are willing to do? It has a very steep learning
curve but is very well documented and supported. Your problem is trivially
solved as well. Lyx can also use biblatex with a small amount of work that
also very well documented.


~Ben,

  Back when I was in grad school (and doing a post-doc) in the early Pleistocene
and publishing in journals the bibliographic style was Author. Year. Title.
Volume:pages. So, that's what I kept doing.

  I see now that the preferred style has apparently changed so that almost
all put the year at the end of the listing. Seems less than useful to me if
the citation is author-year, why not list the bibliography the same way?

  Anywho, it really is a very minor issue. After all, I don't read the
bibliographies in the white papers and other documents I produce for clients
and regulators that have a bibliography and citations in the text. :-) Since
it seems to be a hassle, I'll just let it go (again.)

Thanks,

Rich