Re: Numbering of Float doesn't change

2022-08-28 Thread Daniel

On 2022-08-29 00:32, tush via lyx-users wrote:

I am trying to define a margin figure in my document.

The tufte book document class makes use of this environment.

In the file tufte-book.layout the following is defined:

[...]

But margin figure and figure have two separate numberings. Figure is 
counted within chapters (2.3 for the 3rd figure in chapter 2) but margin 
figure has its own counter (margin figure 1, margin figure 2, margin 
figure 3 without any relation to chapters or the other figures).



Am I missing something? Does it work the same in your installation?


It doesn't work here either, i.e. the numbering of figures and margin 
figures are disconnected (Figure 1, [Margin] Figure 1, etc.) within the 
work area of LyX while in the output they are connected (Figure 1, 
[Margin] Figure 2, etc.).


The problem seems to be that LyX

1) automatically assigns a counter to a float based on its name;
2) counters cannot be increases when other counters are increased (only 
reset with others)


Resolving either 1 or 2 would fix the problem, I guess. But if I see it 
correctly LyX has no support for it currently.


Daniel


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Numbering of Float doesn't change

2022-08-28 Thread tush via lyx-users
I am trying to define a margin figure in my document.

The tufte book document class makes use of this environment.

In the file tufte-book.layout the following is defined:

Counter marginfigure
End

Float

Type marginfigure

GuiName MarginFigure

Placement tbp

AllowedPlacement none

AllowsSideways 0

AllowsWide 0

Extension lof

NumberWithin none

Style plain

ListName "List of Figures"

ListCommand listoffigures

IsPredefined true

UsesFloatPkg false

End

But margin figure and figure have two separate numberings. Figure is counted 
within chapters (2.3 for the 3rd figure in chapter 2) but margin figure has its 
own counter (margin figure 1, margin figure 2, margin figure 3 without any 
relation to chapters or the other figures).

Am I missing something? Does it work the same in your installation?

My goal is to have the two floats share the same counter (figure 2.3, margin 
figure 2.4, figure 2.5 etc.). Can I do it?-- 
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Re: How figure and table numbering is defined?

2022-08-28 Thread tush via lyx-users
Thanks Daniel. I never looked at the content of numreport.inc.

Perhaps you have an idea for my problem I uploaded here before? 
(https://lists.lyx.org/pipermail/lyx-users/2022-August/004205.html)

Thanks very much

Ehud

--- Original Message ---
On Sunday, August 28th, 2022 at 8:45 PM, Daniel  wrote:


> On 2022-08-28 20:30, tush via lyx-users wrote:
> 
> > I am just wondering how lyx knows how to display the numbering of floats
> > when the document class is book and according to what rule to change the
> > numbering when the document class is changed to article, for example.
> > 
> > Yes yes, LyX "doesn't know anything about latex", and it is actually
> > latex that takes care of the numbering, but only in the output (pdf or
> > dvi). My question is about the numbering inside the editor.
> 
> 
> stdfloats.inc contains the basic definition of the float, e.g.
> 
> 
> Float
> Type table
> GuiName Table
> Placement tbp
> Extension lot
> NumberWithin none
> Style plain
> ListName "List of Tables"
> IsPredefined true
> UsesFloatPkg false
> ListCommand listoftables
> RefPrefix tab
> End
> 
> 
> numreport.inc switches the numbering for reports and books to be within
> chapters, e.g.
> 
> 
> Float
> Type table
> NumberWithin chapter
> End
> 
> 
> Best,
> Daniel
> 
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Re: How figure and table numbering is defined?

2022-08-28 Thread Daniel

On 2022-08-28 20:30, tush via lyx-users wrote:
I am just wondering how lyx knows how to display the numbering of floats 
when the document class is book and according to what rule to change the 
numbering when the document class is changed to article, for example.


Yes yes, LyX "doesn't know anything about latex", and it is actually 
latex that takes care of the numbering, but only in the output (pdf or 
dvi). My question is about the numbering *inside*​ the editor.


stdfloats.inc contains the basic definition of the float, e.g.


Float
Type  table
GuiName   Table
Placement tbp
Extension lot
NumberWithin  none
Style plain
ListName  "List of Tables"
IsPredefined  true
UsesFloatPkg  false
ListCommand   listoftables
RefPrefix tab
End


numreport.inc switches the numbering for reports and books to be within 
chapters, e.g.



Float
Type  table
NumberWithin  chapter
End


Best,
Daniel


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Re: How figure and table numbering is defined?

2022-08-28 Thread tush via lyx-users
I am just wondering how lyx knows how to display the numbering of floats when 
the document class is book and according to what rule to change the numbering 
when the document class is changed to article, for example.

Yes yes, LyX "doesn't know anything about latex", and it is actually latex that 
takes care of the numbering, but only in the output (pdf or dvi). My question 
is about the numbering inside​ the editor.

 Original Message 
On Aug 28, 2022, 19:11, Ricardo Berlasso < rgb.m...@gmail.com> wrote:

> El dom, 28 ago 2022 a las 18:44, tush via lyx-users 
> () escribió:
>
>> I tried to look where the numbering (within the lyx editor) of figures and 
>> tables is defined.
>>
>> If I choose book doc class, a figure gets the number 
>> "chapter-number.figurenumber-within-the-chapter", whereas if I choose 
>> article doc class, it changes to "figure-number-within-the-whole-article".
>>
>> Nothing is mentioned about floats numbers in stdfloats.inc, stdcounters.inc 
>> or the like.
>>
>> I hope that if I will have the answer to how this numbering is done, I might 
>> be able to set nicely the numbering of a new float I want to insert into my 
>> document.
>
> LyX follows LaTeX to do the numbering, and that means you need to use either 
> modules, local formatting or code in the preamble (the "caption" package) to 
> modify the numbering beyond the standard formatting. Under Document → 
> Settings → Modules it's possible to activate modules that restart the 
> numbering for figures and tables on each sections. For more, you need to tell 
> us what you need (roman numerals?, small caps for the labels?, etc.).
>
> Regards,
> Ricardo
>
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Re: How figure and table numbering is defined?

2022-08-28 Thread Ricardo Berlasso
El dom, 28 ago 2022 a las 18:44, tush via lyx-users (<
lyx-users@lists.lyx.org>) escribió:

> I tried to look where the numbering (within the lyx editor) of figures and
> tables is defined.
>
> If I choose book doc class, a figure gets the number
> "chapter-number.figurenumber-within-the-chapter", whereas if I choose
> article doc class, it changes to "figure-number-within-the-whole-article".
>
> Nothing is mentioned about floats numbers in stdfloats.inc,
> stdcounters.inc or the like.
>
> I hope that if I will have the answer to how this numbering is done, I
> might be able to set nicely the numbering of a new float I want to insert
> into my document.
>

LyX follows LaTeX to do the numbering, and that means you need to use
either modules, local formatting or code in the preamble (the "caption"
package) to modify the numbering beyond the standard formatting. Under
Document → Settings → Modules it's possible to activate modules that
restart the numbering for figures and tables on each sections. For more,
you need to tell us what you need (roman numerals?, small caps for the
labels?, etc.).

Regards,
Ricardo



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Re: correct spacing in e.g. of a document

2022-08-28 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Samstag, dem 27.08.2022 um 10:48 -0600 schrieb Joel Kulesza:
> As a counterpoint, the Chicago Manual of Style (my preferred
> reference for style alongside Strunk and White) seems to suggest not.
> 
> https://www.chicagomanualofstyle.org/qanda/data/faq/topics/Abbreviations/faq0047.html

Sure. I think these academic stylesheets (probably rightly) have users
in mind who either use full or no space, not thin space (and who do not
even know this exists). Bringhurst addresses typographers.

-- 
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How figure and table numbering is defined?

2022-08-28 Thread tush via lyx-users
I tried to look where the numbering (within the lyx editor) of figures and 
tables is defined.

If I choose book doc class, a figure gets the number 
"chapter-number.figurenumber-within-the-chapter", whereas if I choose article 
doc class, it changes to "figure-number-within-the-whole-article".

Nothing is mentioned about floats numbers in stdfloats.inc, stdcounters.inc or 
the like.

I hope that if I will have the answer to how this numbering is done, I might be 
able to set nicely the numbering of a new float I want to insert into my 
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