Re: Paths forgotten?
Kaplan, Are you opening this file in LyX from two different operating systems (or two different machines), synchronized via Dropbox? Otherwise I cannot fathom any circumstances that LyX would even think to use a Windows-based path and then a Linux-based path. Maybe running LyX under Cygwin, and then not under Cygwin? If you are looking at files using two different operating systems (or shared across two different computers with different users, so different absolute paths to files), you can manually enter a relative path to the figures. LyX will always store that relative path just fine. The only issue arises if you decide to change the figure file and use the "Browse" button to find the file. But again, once you have found that file, you can alter the beginning (absolute) part of the path and replace it with the appropriate relative path with ".." and the like. David On Thu, May 7, 2020 at 10:22 AM UD Kap wrote: > Pavel, > > When you shoot in the dark you come close to the target (I think), so I > should be more careful ;-) > When I look at the path of the "confusing" image files (in the Lyx file), > it says: C:/Users/Gabriel.000/Dropbox > > The beginning of that path (C:/Users/Gabriel.000) is the path to the > *Windows* partition on my disk. If I then click on that path in the Lyx > file, I get the usual Linux path (/home/udi/Dropbox...) which then works > fine, until the next visit to the Lyx file (might require a boot to show > the issue-- I shall check).. > >So this exercise showed me that when I exit from the Lyx file, and > perhaps reboot, the beginning of the path for the confusing image files > changes from /home/udi/Dropbox... to c:/gabriel.000/Dropbox... for > reasons known only to the Gods of Lyx. That path confuses Lyx. > > > Yours, > > E. Kaplan > > > On 5/6/20 3:38 PM, Pavel Sanda wrote: > > On Wed, May 06, 2020 at 12:45:34PM -0400, UD Kap wrote: > >Pavel, I think you are getting close-- the line says:** \origin >unavailable > >What now? > > Unfortunately no, this was not fruitful direction, that value is pretty > normal. > Can you answer my other questions (see below)? > > > Reading one more time the original report, I have two additional questions: > - when you say that you return to your presentation day(s) later does it mean > that LyX was running the whole time or you launch LyX anew? > > - you report the error "cannot determine the size of the graphics..". > But if you click on that image and check in the dialog field "File:" > do you still see correct path or is it lost? > > Pavel > > -- > lyx-users mailing list > lyx-users@lists.lyx.org > http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users > -- *David Mertens* Assistant Professor of Physics 727.864.8521 Office Hours can be made by appointment Tuesdays and Thursdays between 10 and 2. Eckerd College <http://www.eckerd.edu> 4200 54th Avenue South St. Petersburg, Florida 33711 [image: Eckerd College logo] -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: Capabilities for navigating my trove of LyX documents
On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 10:22 AM Paul A. Rubin wrote: > On 11/5/19 8:15 AM, David Mertens wrote: > > Hello Paul, list, > > Thank you for your ideas. The batch file/bash script for keeping a set of > tabs coherent is an excellent idea! > > Unfortunately, the bookmarks suggestion won't work for me. Most of my > notebooks have figures generated by analysis scripts (usually PNG these > days). When LyX opens a symbolic link, it will look for relative paths > relative to the symbolic link's directory. I use relative paths all over > the place because I synchronize my notebooks across two different machines > with different usernames, and thus different full paths. If I use relative > figure filenames, LyX can find the figures whether I open them on my laptop > of the lab machine, but that would break bookmarking. > > Note: I tried using a tilde to represent the home directory for figures, > something like "~/projects/2019/.../some-figure.png". This works in LyX, > but the way it works is that LyX replaces the tilde with my current user's > home directory as soon as I close the Graphics dialog. If LyX kept the > tilde in the path to the file, I would be able to express "absolute" paths > across my two different users. > > Upon further reflection, I feel like at least some fraction of this > behaviour could be implemented use lyxpipe if lyxpipe could speak to all > open sessions. For example, if there were a command-line option to give the > LyX session a name, then I could use the batch-file trick to save tabs > *and* associate a name with the session. I could then implement a > third-party GUI program that handles bookmarked notebooks and could speak > to the different sessions as needed. > > David > > On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 4:49 PM Paul A. Rubin wrote: > >> On 11/2/19 12:04 PM, David Mertens wrote: >> >> Hello everyone, >> >> After years of using LyX for research notebooks, I find myself these days >> working with sets of documents much like I have sets of tabs in my browser. >> I would really, really like to be able to open up sets of documents just >> like I can open up sets of tabs in a browser, and I would also really like >> to be able to bookmark documents much like I can bookmark web pages. >> Finally, it would be really nice if I could embed LyX links to other >> documents to refer to previous calculations or experimental results, so >> that I could click on it and LyX would open the document in a new tab. This >> would really, really facilitate my scholarly work. >> >> Apart from the bookmarking, most of these are "solved" by opening >> multiple LyX sessions with the tabs I need, then never restarting my laptop >> for weeks on end. However, when my laptop inadvertently loses power, all of >> that "state" is lost and I have to recreate it from scratch. >> >> I have looked into implementing some of these ideas with lyxpipe >> programming, but as I said I use multiple LyX sessions for different kinds >> of work: one research project, another research project, one class, and >> another class all need their own tab sets, so they go in different >> sessions. lyxpipe can only talk with the first LyX process that starts. >> >> As far as I can tell, LyX does not have any of these capabilities and >> lyxpipe is not the way to implement them. Am I wrong? If I wanted to >> implement them, what is the most sensible way to do so? Is there an >> extension mechanism for this kind of thing besides lyxpipe? Finally, what >> are the tools that others use to organize large collections of notebook-ish >> files? >> >> Thanks! >> David >> >> P.S. I am not (yet) subscribed to the user list, so I'd appreciate if >> replies included my email address explicitly. Thanks! >> >> -- >> *David Mertens* >> Assistant Professor of Physics >> 727.864.8521 >> >> Office Hours can be made by appointment within the following time blocks: >> >>- Tuesday 11:30 a.m. to 4:00 p.m., MPC 213 >>- Thursday 11:30 a.m. to 2:00 p.m., MPC 107 >>- Friday 1:00 p.m. to 2:00 p.m., MPC 107 >> >> >> Eckerd College <http://www.eckerd.edu> >> 4200 54th Avenue South >> St. Petersburg, Florida 33711 >> [image: Eckerd College logo] >> >> At least part of this is fairly easy to implement. >> >> Opening sets of documents: You can set up a one-line batch file to open a >> particular bunch of documents. Omitting the path info for brevity, "lyx >> file1.lyx file2.lyx ..." will open all the files listed in one LyX window. &
Re: Capabilities for navigating my trove of LyX documents
Hello Paul, list, Thank you for your ideas. The batch file/bash script for keeping a set of tabs coherent is an excellent idea! Unfortunately, the bookmarks suggestion won't work for me. Most of my notebooks have figures generated by analysis scripts (usually PNG these days). When LyX opens a symbolic link, it will look for relative paths relative to the symbolic link's directory. I use relative paths all over the place because I synchronize my notebooks across two different machines with different usernames, and thus different full paths. If I use relative figure filenames, LyX can find the figures whether I open them on my laptop of the lab machine, but that would break bookmarking. Note: I tried using a tilde to represent the home directory for figures, something like "~/projects/2019/.../some-figure.png". This works in LyX, but the way it works is that LyX replaces the tilde with my current user's home directory as soon as I close the Graphics dialog. If LyX kept the tilde in the path to the file, I would be able to express "absolute" paths across my two different users. Upon further reflection, I feel like at least some fraction of this behaviour could be implemented use lyxpipe if lyxpipe could speak to all open sessions. For example, if there were a command-line option to give the LyX session a name, then I could use the batch-file trick to save tabs *and* associate a name with the session. I could then implement a third-party GUI program that handles bookmarked notebooks and could speak to the different sessions as needed. David On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 4:49 PM Paul A. Rubin wrote: > On 11/2/19 12:04 PM, David Mertens wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > After years of using LyX for research notebooks, I find myself these days > working with sets of documents much like I have sets of tabs in my browser. > I would really, really like to be able to open up sets of documents just > like I can open up sets of tabs in a browser, and I would also really like > to be able to bookmark documents much like I can bookmark web pages. > Finally, it would be really nice if I could embed LyX links to other > documents to refer to previous calculations or experimental results, so > that I could click on it and LyX would open the document in a new tab. This > would really, really facilitate my scholarly work. > > Apart from the bookmarking, most of these are "solved" by opening multiple > LyX sessions with the tabs I need, then never restarting my laptop for > weeks on end. However, when my laptop inadvertently loses power, all of > that "state" is lost and I have to recreate it from scratch. > > I have looked into implementing some of these ideas with lyxpipe > programming, but as I said I use multiple LyX sessions for different kinds > of work: one research project, another research project, one class, and > another class all need their own tab sets, so they go in different > sessions. lyxpipe can only talk with the first LyX process that starts. > > As far as I can tell, LyX does not have any of these capabilities and > lyxpipe is not the way to implement them. Am I wrong? If I wanted to > implement them, what is the most sensible way to do so? Is there an > extension mechanism for this kind of thing besides lyxpipe? Finally, what > are the tools that others use to organize large collections of notebook-ish > files? > > Thanks! > David > > P.S. I am not (yet) subscribed to the user list, so I'd appreciate if > replies included my email address explicitly. Thanks! > > -- > *David Mertens* > Assistant Professor of Physics > 727.864.8521 > > Office Hours can be made by appointment within the following time blocks: > >- Tuesday 11:30 a.m. to 4:00 p.m., MPC 213 >- Thursday 11:30 a.m. to 2:00 p.m., MPC 107 >- Friday 1:00 p.m. to 2:00 p.m., MPC 107 > > > Eckerd College <http://www.eckerd.edu> > 4200 54th Avenue South > St. Petersburg, Florida 33711 > [image: Eckerd College logo] > > At least part of this is fairly easy to implement. > > Opening sets of documents: You can set up a one-line batch file to open a > particular bunch of documents. Omitting the path info for brevity, "lyx > file1.lyx file2.lyx ..." will open all the files listed in one LyX window. > Similarly, "lyx *.lyx" will open all the .lyx files in the directory where > the command is being run (at least on Linux, but I imagine also on MacOS > and Windows). > > Bookmarks: LyX lets you open files from a list of recently opened ones. If > that's not sufficient, one possibility is to create a folder (directory) > someplace for "bookmarks". In that folder, put a link to each file you > would like to bookmark. (On Linux, this is known as a symlink
Capabilities for navigating my trove of LyX documents
Hello everyone, After years of using LyX for research notebooks, I find myself these days working with sets of documents much like I have sets of tabs in my browser. I would really, really like to be able to open up sets of documents just like I can open up sets of tabs in a browser, and I would also really like to be able to bookmark documents much like I can bookmark web pages. Finally, it would be really nice if I could embed LyX links to other documents to refer to previous calculations or experimental results, so that I could click on it and LyX would open the document in a new tab. This would really, really facilitate my scholarly work. Apart from the bookmarking, most of these are "solved" by opening multiple LyX sessions with the tabs I need, then never restarting my laptop for weeks on end. However, when my laptop inadvertently loses power, all of that "state" is lost and I have to recreate it from scratch. I have looked into implementing some of these ideas with lyxpipe programming, but as I said I use multiple LyX sessions for different kinds of work: one research project, another research project, one class, and another class all need their own tab sets, so they go in different sessions. lyxpipe can only talk with the first LyX process that starts. As far as I can tell, LyX does not have any of these capabilities and lyxpipe is not the way to implement them. Am I wrong? If I wanted to implement them, what is the most sensible way to do so? Is there an extension mechanism for this kind of thing besides lyxpipe? Finally, what are the tools that others use to organize large collections of notebook-ish files? Thanks! David P.S. I am not (yet) subscribed to the user list, so I'd appreciate if replies included my email address explicitly. Thanks! -- *David Mertens* Assistant Professor of Physics 727.864.8521 Office Hours can be made by appointment within the following time blocks: - Tuesday 11:30 a.m. to 4:00 p.m., MPC 213 - Thursday 11:30 a.m. to 2:00 p.m., MPC 107 - Friday 1:00 p.m. to 2:00 p.m., MPC 107 Eckerd College <http://www.eckerd.edu> 4200 54th Avenue South St. Petersburg, Florida 33711 [image: Eckerd College logo] -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: lyx webpage doesn't load
I can confirm this. Can't say anything more useful, but I can confirm it. :] David On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 8:23 AM, Erez Yerushalmi wrote: > Hi all, > > have others noticed that the LyX webpage doesn't load?? > > Erez > > > > > -- > Erez Yerushalmi > PhD Student > Warwick University, UK > > http://www2.warwick.ac.uk/fac/soc/economics/research/phds/3rd_year/yerushalmi >
Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?
> > It would be great if ... the .lxy document would be bundled with all images > in a .zip file. > Great idea, but not trivial. Has this been discussed on the lists before? If it has, I couldn't find it. We would probably want a portable LyX format (.plyx) that would be a tarrball or zip of the .lyx file and the various images, possibly including their .png previews (used by LyX) and possibly including a finished pdf output so the collaborator could view the latest compiled version. This would make document exchange, and therefore collaboration, *much* easier. I'm not sure how easily we could encorporate tarring or zipping capabilities into the LyX binary itself, but I suspect it's not terribly difficult. The problem is that LyX is designed to handle all of the images as external documents, so adding 'internal' image capabilities would mean creating lots of gui to manage those options. What if a user wanted to save in internal image as an external file on their HD? That's a new dialog. Also, you'd want to be able to manage internal vs external settings, but how would that effect LyX's Graphics dialog box? You'd have to add a few new elements to the Document Settings dialog if you wanted to modify include/exclude settings for a compiled .pdf or .ps, or preview .png files. And of course, .lyx -> .plyx -> .lyx would be nontrivial and the .plyx -> .lyx would in the very least require a new set of dialog boxes to handle internal images that don't have a counterpart on the user's HD. Trying to minimize the programming load by only allowing import/export would seems attractive but comes with its own set of problems, particularly for collaboration (which was the point to begin with). Native support seems like the best option. As you can see, the notion of a new portable file type is a good idea and is a valid point of discussion for document collaboration, but it is a thorny issue when you get up close to it. David
Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?
> > I'm a bit puzzled about this, because python is needed to run the > configure.py script that checks for installed programs and the like. Are you > sure the installer didn't install python? > > rh I looked a bit closer and you are correct. Python was installed in my LyX program folder, not in 'C:\Program Files\', which is what I expected. The same holds for ghostscript and image magick. I presumed that the LyX developers had put python scripting into LyX itself, but clearly I was mistaken. David
Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?
(Forgot to reply to the full list again. My apologies Helge.) @ Vincent - The installer would be different, and LyX would have to not give error messages for messed-up layout files. See my notes below. @all - Regarding MicroLyX (tested on Windows) - I recalled that LyX could be run without a LaTeX distro installed, so I tried it. I ran Win XP in my virtualbox and tried installing a light-weight LyX with the current binary installer. Here's how it went: 1. Downloaded the install binary, about 20 Mb, which is fine as far as I'm concerned. 2. Started the installer. I was only asked three things: (a) do I want latex (no), (b) what language should LyX use (English) and (c) what language dictionaries do I want (I chose English). 3. After installing most of what I needed, it downloaded the aspell software and installed it. I thought that Python was required for LyX (it used to be required), but this apparently is no longer the case, which is nice. Overall, the full-LyX installer had no trouble installing a minimal LyX system. Then I tried running LyX. I got an error saying: The layout file requested by this document, article.layout, is not usable. This is probably because the LaTeX class or style file required is not available. See the Customization documentation for more information. LyX will not be able to produce output. Once I clicked out of that, I was able to work within the document just fine. You can only view those document types you can create. Therefore, I was not given the option to view a pdf or postscript version of the document, so I was not able to bother LyX asking it to do something it couldn't do. I did not text image viewing/conversion, but in my experience when you insert an image that LyX does not know how to convert, it automatically displays a message along the lines of "Could not convert this image for display." Conclusion: for windows, installing a stripped-down LyX is easy except that it always complains about the layout file. MicroLyX could easily just be a recompilation of LyX that does not generate those warnings (and uses a different title), accompanied by a separate installer. Any thoughts? David
Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?
> > 3. (optional, and not so inmediate) A light-weight full-view (and > idiot-proof as well) LyX version, (I have the name: LyteX or LyghtX!) which > is able to edit text (and structure) of conventional LyX docs, without the > possibility of editing ERT or items explicitly banned by the original > author, no need to DVIize or PDFize them (WYSIAYNTK: what you see is all you > need to know), but with the full version control system activated. This > software should be completely LaTeX independent and, if possible, to have > an alternate output system for printing a simple representation of the > content. Citation dialogs and any other stuff which do not need LaTeX > should work. It doesn't seem to me something so difficoult to develop, and > it could help in 80% of cases in some of Peter's scenarios. This would be perfect for me! I envision a stripped-down version of the current LyX project, without export. Since LyX is really close to a WYSIWYG editor (close enough for my purposes) I could probably just send the .lyx file to my advisor without the PDF. The only issue would then be making sure that I sent the images along with the .lyx file. In fact, is there any reason we couldn't create an installer for "LyX without LaTeX", except of course finding the manpower to do it? Yeah, a LyX viewer/editor without document processing back-end (and the associated 800Mb download) would be great. David
Re: some questions on page numbering (pages BEFORE chapter 1)
Oops. I only sent this to Joe. Resending to LyX list. > Well that and how to get Lyx to position the "by authorname" & copyright > information at the bottom of an otherwise blank page instead of at the > top of one??? > (there has to be a better way than inserting a bunch of hard returns. > I mean that method would have to be re-tweaked every time the output > page size changed.) > Did you try using a vertical fill via Insert->Formatting->Vertical Space, select Vertical Fill? This seemed to work for me: [ some text at top, at least a protected space ] ^ | Vertical Fill | V [ text at bottom of page ]
Re: Question on whitespace at the end of raw TeX - inserts
>
> What Dieter refers to is that TeX is interpreting a blank as the end of a
> command. I.e., "\TeX and friends" will be parsed as
> "TeXand
> friends". If you want a blank after the command, you must either write
> "\TeX\ and friends" or "\TeX{} and friends" (in ordinary LaTeX), and I
> think
> Dieter wants us to automatically insert "\ " at the end of each ERT (or
> transform subsequent blanks to "\ " automatically). However, as I argued
> earlier, I think such magic will fall back on us, since ERT is used in many
> different ways (not mentioning all the backwards compatibility issues
> involved).
>
Jürgen and Steve -
You are correct that I misunderstood. So I guess I sympathise with Dieter,
in as much as what follows:
As far as I am concerned by
abc\TeX def
I *mean*
abc\TeX\ def
However, when I tyop a command in powerdot like
\twocolumns{ my first column }{ my second column
}
I *mean*
\twocolumns{ my first column }{ my second column }
Perhaps we could add an option to ERT boxes to "respect spaces afer this
ert", in which case a space after the close of an ert would be replaced with
a '\ '?
David
Re: Question on whitespace at the end of raw TeX - inserts
> > 1.) put automatically a blank as whitespace at the end of each TeX-insert > before closing it. > 2.) protect a whitespace follwing a TeX-insert if there is one - assume > that > the user intentionally puts a whitespace there. > Something tells me this has been discussed before, but since Dieter posted on it... I'm going to second Dieter's curiosity and vote for #2. I had lots of trouble with this when creating a presentation using powerdot, in which case (for my particular use) the ert was meant to modify the normal text that followed, but for which I needed a space between the tex and the regular text. I eventually figured it out, but I never understood why my space had to be in the ert. David
Double click LyX on Mac doesn't open LyX
Hello - I have a rather circuitous issue. I'm a grad student. My advisor is generally a word guy but has agreed to use LyX at my request. He's followed the installation instructions multiple times (I've watched). However, when he double-clicks on the LyX listing in the Applications folder, we see the icon fly-out (indicating to me that Mac has started the program) but it never shows up, either on the screen or in the active-apps sidebar. I would troubleshoot this myself, but I'm a Linux/Windows guy and have no knowledge of Macs. So, where do I start? Mac OS: 10.3.9 LyX Ver: 1.6.1
