Fwd: Get Footnotes to appear on the same page when exporting to HTML?

[jf7]

Update to my previous message about italics footnotes when exported to  
html with htlatex, (please see that message -- too much to  
re-quote here):


I've upgraded LyX to 1.6.5 (that's 1.6.7 to you Paul Sutton ;-) and  
TexShop to 2.29 and the problems mentioned persist.


jamie faunt
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Yes there is a way to get your html footnotes on the same page. If  
you're using htlatex / tex4ht the converter line for latex-html is:


htlatex $$i xhtml,fn-in

Took me ages to find that fn-in parameter. The documentation of  
htlatex is pretty cryptic. But it works if you don't mind...


The problem with it which I haven't been able to solve is that the  
footnotes come out in italics. :-( But at least they're on the same  
page.


To get rid of the italics edit the .css file and find the  
div.footnotes line and get rid of the font-style: italic;


If you don't mind that extra hassle the results are perfect.

Oddly, when htlatex is run (from the command line rather than from  
LyX-export) on the same latex file it does not add the italics to the  
footnotes but just nicely puts them in-line where they should be.


I've searched and searched every shred of documentation I could find  
to find a parameter that would put the footnotes in normal text. But  
apparently it's not in the htlatex utility itself but in something  
that happens with the LyX export.


Since the utility itself does not have this problem, it seems like a  
bug in the exporting in LyX. But I'm not reporting it as a bug yet  
because I'm using LyX 1.6.2. (Crossing my fingers that 1.6.5 doesn't  
continue the problem.)


The other html converter I've used with LyX is tth.  It's very good.  
Does the footnotes as you'd expect. The problem with it though is it  
won't do tables of contents and will only work with encapsulated  
postscript graphic files. (.eps) -- no .png, .jpg or any others.


The other oddity which the author says is not needed is that it  
doesn't generate head and body tags unless you include a 'w1'  
parameter. But that solves it fine. The converter command line is:


tth -w1 $$i

(or omit the -w1 if you don't care about the head and body tags)

The documentation for tth is far easier. And the program is reliable  
if its short-comings don't affect you. There's a free version for  
non-commercial use.


Despite the cryptic documentation and a now deceased author, htlatex  
works great except for the italics with in-line footnotes -- which  
I've found is a LyX -- not htlatex problem.


If this has been fixed, or if there's a solution, I'd sure like to know.

I'd also need a way to add a body - margin line either in .css or the  
.html file without having to enter them manually. That may be too much  
to wish for. But if anyone knows how, I'd really appreciate knowing  
that too!  (I know the syntax for both html and css -- just need to  
know if there's a way to generate one or the other with export.)


Anyway, I hope the above is helpful.

jamie faunt


Quoting Yaron Y. Goland ya...@goland.org:
The articles I create with LyX are destined for my blog and form a  
single piece of HTML. But when I export to HTML any footnotes I have  
get generated on a separate HTML page. Is there anyway to configure  
the HTML exporter so that it will generate the footnotes at the end of  
the main HTML page and then use anchors to navigate to them?

Thanks,
Yaron
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Fwd: Get Footnotes to appear on the same page when exporting to HTML?

[jf7]

Update to my previous message about italics footnotes when exported to  
html with htlatex, (please see that message -- too much to  
re-quote here):


I've upgraded LyX to 1.6.5 (that's 1.6.7 to you Paul Sutton ;-) and  
TexShop to 2.29 and the problems mentioned persist.


jamie faunt
---BeginMessage---


Yes there is a way to get your html footnotes on the same page. If  
you're using htlatex / tex4ht the converter line for latex-html is:


htlatex $$i xhtml,fn-in

Took me ages to find that fn-in parameter. The documentation of  
htlatex is pretty cryptic. But it works if you don't mind...


The problem with it which I haven't been able to solve is that the  
footnotes come out in italics. :-( But at least they're on the same  
page.


To get rid of the italics edit the .css file and find the  
div.footnotes line and get rid of the font-style: italic;


If you don't mind that extra hassle the results are perfect.

Oddly, when htlatex is run (from the command line rather than from  
LyX-export) on the same latex file it does not add the italics to the  
footnotes but just nicely puts them in-line where they should be.


I've searched and searched every shred of documentation I could find  
to find a parameter that would put the footnotes in normal text. But  
apparently it's not in the htlatex utility itself but in something  
that happens with the LyX export.


Since the utility itself does not have this problem, it seems like a  
bug in the exporting in LyX. But I'm not reporting it as a bug yet  
because I'm using LyX 1.6.2. (Crossing my fingers that 1.6.5 doesn't  
continue the problem.)


The other html converter I've used with LyX is tth.  It's very good.  
Does the footnotes as you'd expect. The problem with it though is it  
won't do tables of contents and will only work with encapsulated  
postscript graphic files. (.eps) -- no .png, .jpg or any others.


The other oddity which the author says is not needed is that it  
doesn't generate head and body tags unless you include a 'w1'  
parameter. But that solves it fine. The converter command line is:


tth -w1 $$i

(or omit the -w1 if you don't care about the head and body tags)

The documentation for tth is far easier. And the program is reliable  
if its short-comings don't affect you. There's a free version for  
non-commercial use.


Despite the cryptic documentation and a now deceased author, htlatex  
works great except for the italics with in-line footnotes -- which  
I've found is a LyX -- not htlatex problem.


If this has been fixed, or if there's a solution, I'd sure like to know.

I'd also need a way to add a body - margin line either in .css or the  
.html file without having to enter them manually. That may be too much  
to wish for. But if anyone knows how, I'd really appreciate knowing  
that too!  (I know the syntax for both html and css -- just need to  
know if there's a way to generate one or the other with export.)


Anyway, I hope the above is helpful.

jamie faunt


Quoting Yaron Y. Goland ya...@goland.org:
The articles I create with LyX are destined for my blog and form a  
single piece of HTML. But when I export to HTML any footnotes I have  
get generated on a separate HTML page. Is there anyway to configure  
the HTML exporter so that it will generate the footnotes at the end of  
the main HTML page and then use anchors to navigate to them?

Thanks,
Yaron
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Fwd: Get Footnotes to appear on the same page when exporting to HTML?

[jf7]

Update to my previous message about italics footnotes when exported to  
html with htlatex, (please see that message -- too much to  
re-quote here):


I've upgraded LyX to 1.6.5 (that's 1.6.7 to you Paul Sutton ;-) and  
TexShop to 2.29 and the problems mentioned persist.


jamie faunt
--- Begin Message ---


Yes there is a way to get your html footnotes on the same page. If  
you're using htlatex / tex4ht the converter line for latex->html is:


htlatex $$i "xhtml,fn-in"

Took me ages to find that "fn-in" parameter. The documentation of  
htlatex is pretty cryptic. But it works if you don't mind...


The problem with it which I haven't been able to solve is that the  
footnotes come out in italics. :-( But at least they're on the same  
page.


To get rid of the italics edit the .css file and find the  
div.footnotes line and get rid of the "font-style: italic;"


If you don't mind that extra hassle the results are perfect.

Oddly, when htlatex is run (from the command line rather than from  
LyX-export) on the same latex file it does not add the italics to the  
footnotes but just nicely puts them in-line where they should be.


I've searched and searched every shred of documentation I could find  
to find a parameter that would put the footnotes in normal text. But  
apparently it's not in the htlatex utility itself but in something  
that happens with the LyX export.


Since the utility itself does not have this problem, it seems like a  
bug in the exporting in LyX. But I'm not reporting it as a bug yet  
because I'm using LyX 1.6.2. (Crossing my fingers that 1.6.5 doesn't  
continue the problem.)


The other html converter I've used with LyX is tth.  It's very good.  
Does the footnotes as you'd expect. The problem with it though is it  
won't do tables of contents and will only work with encapsulated  
postscript graphic files. (.eps) -- no .png, .jpg or any others.


The other oddity which the author says is not needed is that it  
doesn't generate head and body tags unless you include a 'w1'  
parameter. But that solves it fine. The converter command line is:


tth -w1 $$i

(or omit the -w1 if you don't care about the head and body tags)

The documentation for tth is far easier. And the program is reliable  
if its short-comings don't affect you. There's a free version for  
non-commercial use.


Despite the cryptic documentation and a now deceased author, htlatex  
works great except for the italics with in-line footnotes -- which  
I've found is a LyX -- not htlatex problem.


If this has been fixed, or if there's a solution, I'd sure like to know.

I'd also need a way to add a body - margin line either in .css or the  
.html file without having to enter them manually. That may be too much  
to wish for. But if anyone knows how, I'd really appreciate knowing  
that too!  (I know the syntax for both html and css -- just need to  
know if there's a way to generate one or the other with export.)


Anyway, I hope the above is helpful.

jamie faunt


Quoting "Yaron Y. Goland" :
The articles I create with LyX are destined for my blog and form a  
single piece of HTML. But when I export to HTML any footnotes I have  
get generated on a separate HTML page. Is there anyway to configure  
the HTML exporter so that it will generate the footnotes at the end of  
the main HTML page and then use anchors to navigate to them?

Thanks,
Yaron
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html footnotes

[jf7]

Hi, My footnotes are all coming out in italics when I export to html.  
This does not happen with DVI or PDF. But I use html export a lot so  
am looking for a solution.


In Preferences  File Handling  Converters  LaTeX - HTML  I've been  
successfully using htlatex to export html files. And it works great.  
But,...


My original problem was that footnotes were all placed in  
separately-linked html files. I didn't like that. So I searched and  
found an addition to the parameters that solved that --- by adding  
,fn-in to the parameters.


htlatex $$i xhtml,fn-in

I've failed to find the parameter change or addition to format the  
footnotes normally. Does anyone here know the secret?


thanks much,

jamie faunt

html footnotes

[jf7]

Hi, My footnotes are all coming out in italics when I export to html.  
This does not happen with DVI or PDF. But I use html export a lot so  
am looking for a solution.


In Preferences  File Handling  Converters  LaTeX - HTML  I've been  
successfully using htlatex to export html files. And it works great.  
But,...


My original problem was that footnotes were all placed in  
separately-linked html files. I didn't like that. So I searched and  
found an addition to the parameters that solved that --- by adding  
,fn-in to the parameters.


htlatex $$i xhtml,fn-in

I've failed to find the parameter change or addition to format the  
footnotes normally. Does anyone here know the secret?


thanks much,

jamie faunt

html footnotes

[jf7]

Hi, My footnotes are all coming out in italics when I export to html.  
This does not happen with DVI or PDF. But I use html export a lot so  
am looking for a solution.


In Preferences > File Handling > Converters > LaTeX -> HTML  I've been  
successfully using htlatex to export html files. And it works great.  
But,...


My original problem was that footnotes were all placed in  
separately-linked html files. I didn't like that. So I searched and  
found an addition to the parameters that solved that --- by adding  
",fn-in" to the parameters.


htlatex $$i "xhtml,fn-in"

I've failed to find the parameter change or addition to format the  
footnotes normally. Does anyone here know the secret?


thanks much,

jamie faunt

htlatex exported html footnotes

[jf7]

In Preferences  File Handling  Converters  LaTeX - HTML  I've been  
successfully using htlatex to export html files. And it works great  
except for one thing:


My original problem was that footnotes were all placed in  
separately-linked html files. I didn't like that. So I found an  
addition to the parameters that solved that --- the ,fn-in addition  
solved that.


htlatex $$i xhtml,fn-in

But now all of the footnotes -- not in dvi's nor pdf's but in html  
files -- are in italics. And I really don't like it.


I failed to find the parameter change or addition to correct this.  
Does anyone here know the secret?


thanks much,

jamie faunt

htlatex exported html footnotes

[jf7]

In Preferences  File Handling  Converters  LaTeX - HTML  I've been  
successfully using htlatex to export html files. And it works great  
except for one thing:


My original problem was that footnotes were all placed in  
separately-linked html files. I didn't like that. So I found an  
addition to the parameters that solved that --- the ,fn-in addition  
solved that.


htlatex $$i xhtml,fn-in

But now all of the footnotes -- not in dvi's nor pdf's but in html  
files -- are in italics. And I really don't like it.


I failed to find the parameter change or addition to correct this.  
Does anyone here know the secret?


thanks much,

jamie faunt

htlatex exported html footnotes

[jf7]

In Preferences > File Handling > Converters > LaTeX -> HTML  I've been  
successfully using htlatex to export html files. And it works great  
except for one thing:


My original problem was that footnotes were all placed in  
separately-linked html files. I didn't like that. So I found an  
addition to the parameters that solved that --- the ",fn-in" addition  
solved that.


htlatex $$i "xhtml,fn-in"

But now all of the footnotes -- not in dvi's nor pdf's but in html  
files -- are in italics. And I really don't like it.


I failed to find the parameter change or addition to correct this.  
Does anyone here know the secret?


thanks much,

jamie faunt

lilypond in LyX 6.1

[jf7]

Hi, I am trying to insert a lilypond file with InsertFileExternal  
MaterialLilyPond in a LyX 6.1 doc. It seems to need an .eps or .ps  
doc as a conversion from the .ly lilypond file.


I can import a pdf but that's not workable because it does a whole page.

I'm using TexShop on a Mac if that's pertinent.

Does anyone know how I can do this since it's been a listed feature for while?

Seems to need some info in Preferences - File Formats for the LilyPond  
Music item.


thanks much,
jamie faunt

lilypond in LyX 6.1

[jf7]

Hi, I am trying to insert a lilypond file with InsertFileExternal  
MaterialLilyPond in a LyX 6.1 doc. It seems to need an .eps or .ps  
doc as a conversion from the .ly lilypond file.


I can import a pdf but that's not workable because it does a whole page.

I'm using TexShop on a Mac if that's pertinent.

Does anyone know how I can do this since it's been a listed feature for while?

Seems to need some info in Preferences - File Formats for the LilyPond  
Music item.


thanks much,
jamie faunt

lilypond in LyX 6.1

[jf7]

Hi, I am trying to insert a lilypond file with Insert>File>External  
Material>LilyPond in a LyX 6.1 doc. It seems to need an .eps or .ps  
doc as a conversion from the .ly lilypond file.


I can import a pdf but that's not workable because it does a whole page.

I'm using TexShop on a Mac if that's pertinent.

Does anyone know how I can do this since it's been a listed feature for while?

Seems to need some info in Preferences - File Formats for the LilyPond  
Music item.


thanks much,
jamie faunt

Re: importing spreadsheet rows and columns

[jf7]

Okay -- I've got 1.5.5 installed. When I import a csv file it  
separates the rows but not the columns. In looking at the converter I  
see that the python script is csv2lyx. I can't find that script on my  
system. Would it have been part of my lyx installation? (I installed  
the Mac Universal binary and I'm using MacTex but I haven't upgraded  
it since I had LyX 1.5.3.) Also it's putting the imported data in a  
new LyX file. Just wondering what I need to get this to work.


thanks,
jamie faunt

Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]:



Fantastic! Will do! Thanks!

jamie faunt

Quoting Uwe Stöhr [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:

Hi, I'm using LyX 1.5.3 and have a situation where I need to put
spreadsheet data into tables in LyX


Upgrdade to LyX 1.5.5 and use there the menu File - Import - Comma
separated values.
This requires that you format your spreadsheet to a CSV file with Tabs
as column separator (OpenOffice and Excel can do this).

regards Uwe

Re: importing spreadsheet rows and columns

[jf7]

Quoting Uwe Stöhr [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Bug report is filed.

New version of csv2lyx.py works as expected.

thanks very much!
jamie faunt

Re: importing spreadsheet rows and columns

[jf7]

Okay -- I've got 1.5.5 installed. When I import a csv file it  
separates the rows but not the columns. In looking at the converter I  
see that the python script is csv2lyx. I can't find that script on my  
system. Would it have been part of my lyx installation? (I installed  
the Mac Universal binary and I'm using MacTex but I haven't upgraded  
it since I had LyX 1.5.3.) Also it's putting the imported data in a  
new LyX file. Just wondering what I need to get this to work.


thanks,
jamie faunt

Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]:



Fantastic! Will do! Thanks!

jamie faunt

Quoting Uwe Stöhr [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:

Hi, I'm using LyX 1.5.3 and have a situation where I need to put
spreadsheet data into tables in LyX


Upgrdade to LyX 1.5.5 and use there the menu File - Import - Comma
separated values.
This requires that you format your spreadsheet to a CSV file with Tabs
as column separator (OpenOffice and Excel can do this).

regards Uwe

Re: importing spreadsheet rows and columns

[jf7]

Quoting Uwe Stöhr [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Bug report is filed.

New version of csv2lyx.py works as expected.

thanks very much!
jamie faunt

Re: importing spreadsheet rows and columns

[jf7]

Okay -- I've got 1.5.5 installed. When I import a csv file it  
separates the rows but not the columns. In looking at the converter I  
see that the python script is csv2lyx. I can't find that script on my  
system. Would it have been part of my lyx installation? (I installed  
the Mac Universal binary and I'm using MacTex but I haven't upgraded  
it since I had LyX 1.5.3.) Also it's putting the imported data in a  
new LyX file. Just wondering what I need to get this to work.


thanks,
jamie faunt

Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]:



Fantastic! Will do! Thanks!

jamie faunt

Quoting Uwe Stöhr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:

Hi, I'm using LyX 1.5.3 and have a situation where I need to put
spreadsheet data into tables in LyX


Upgrdade to LyX 1.5.5 and use there the menu File -> Import -> Comma
separated values.
This requires that you format your spreadsheet to a CSV file with Tabs
as column separator (OpenOffice and Excel can do this).

regards Uwe

Re: importing spreadsheet rows and columns

[jf7]

Quoting Uwe Stöhr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

Bug report is filed.

New version of csv2lyx.py works as expected.

thanks very much!
jamie faunt

Re: importing spreadsheet rows and columns

[jf7]

Fantastic! Will do! Thanks!

jamie faunt

Quoting Uwe Stöhr [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:

Hi, I'm using LyX 1.5.3 and have a situation where I need to put   
spreadsheet data into tables in LyX


Upgrdade to LyX 1.5.5 and use there the menu File - Import - Comma
separated values.
This requires that you format your spreadsheet to a CSV file with Tabs
as column separator (OpenOffice and Excel can do this).

regards Uwe

Re: importing spreadsheet rows and columns

[jf7]

Fantastic! Will do! Thanks!

jamie faunt

Quoting Uwe Stöhr [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:

Hi, I'm using LyX 1.5.3 and have a situation where I need to put   
spreadsheet data into tables in LyX


Upgrdade to LyX 1.5.5 and use there the menu File - Import - Comma
separated values.
This requires that you format your spreadsheet to a CSV file with Tabs
as column separator (OpenOffice and Excel can do this).

regards Uwe

Re: importing spreadsheet rows and columns

[jf7]

Fantastic! Will do! Thanks!

jamie faunt

Quoting Uwe Stöhr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:

Hi, I'm using LyX 1.5.3 and have a situation where I need to put   
spreadsheet data into tables in LyX


Upgrdade to LyX 1.5.5 and use there the menu File -> Import -> Comma
separated values.
This requires that you format your spreadsheet to a CSV file with Tabs
as column separator (OpenOffice and Excel can do this).

regards Uwe

importing spreadsheet rows and columns

[jf7]

Hi, I'm using LyX 1.5.3 and have a situation where I need to put  
spreadsheet data into tables in LyX -- several of them actually. I'm  
able to paste the spreadsheet data into LyX. But so far I haven't  
figured out a way other than the tedious method of cutting and pasting  
every cell's contents one-by-one into place in the table.


Is there any way I can at least do columns or rows at a time if not a  
the whole block of columns and rows at once?


thanks,

jamie faunt

importing spreadsheet rows and columns

[jf7]

Hi, I'm using LyX 1.5.3 and have a situation where I need to put  
spreadsheet data into tables in LyX -- several of them actually. I'm  
able to paste the spreadsheet data into LyX. But so far I haven't  
figured out a way other than the tedious method of cutting and pasting  
every cell's contents one-by-one into place in the table.


Is there any way I can at least do columns or rows at a time if not a  
the whole block of columns and rows at once?


thanks,

jamie faunt

importing spreadsheet rows and columns

[jf7]

Hi, I'm using LyX 1.5.3 and have a situation where I need to put  
spreadsheet data into tables in LyX -- several of them actually. I'm  
able to paste the spreadsheet data into LyX. But so far I haven't  
figured out a way other than the tedious method of cutting and pasting  
every cell's contents one-by-one into place in the table.


Is there any way I can at least do columns or rows at a time if not a  
the whole block of columns and rows at once?


thanks,

jamie faunt

rtf2latex for mac OSX?

[jf7]

Hi, I have a bunch of pre-historic word docs that I want to convert  
to LyX. I've gathered that the best way to do this is by converting  
rtf to latex. (If anyone has a better suggestion I'm interested.)


I've scoured the LyX sites and the web for any info on rtf2latex2e.  
Seems that it was originally written on a mac classic os9. There are  
unix and windows versions but I can't find any for OSX for the Mac.  
I've tried to compile unix code on the mac but the source only  
recognizes OSX for PPC. Mine is intel. And I can't figure out how to  
add the correct host definition so I can compile it for intel.


I have managed to successfully run the Windows version of rtf2latex2e.  
And it does a fine job. I just don't like using Windows. The  
conversion definition is there in LyX 1.5.3 but the executable for  
rtf2latex2e isn't.


Does anyone know where I can get (binary or source for) rtf2latex2e  
for mac intel?


thanks much,
jamie faunt

rtf2latex for mac OSX?

[jf7]

Hi, I have a bunch of pre-historic word docs that I want to convert  
to LyX. I've gathered that the best way to do this is by converting  
rtf to latex. (If anyone has a better suggestion I'm interested.)


I've scoured the LyX sites and the web for any info on rtf2latex2e.  
Seems that it was originally written on a mac classic os9. There are  
unix and windows versions but I can't find any for OSX for the Mac.  
I've tried to compile unix code on the mac but the source only  
recognizes OSX for PPC. Mine is intel. And I can't figure out how to  
add the correct host definition so I can compile it for intel.


I have managed to successfully run the Windows version of rtf2latex2e.  
And it does a fine job. I just don't like using Windows. The  
conversion definition is there in LyX 1.5.3 but the executable for  
rtf2latex2e isn't.


Does anyone know where I can get (binary or source for) rtf2latex2e  
for mac intel?


thanks much,
jamie faunt

rtf2latex for mac OSX?

[jf7]

Hi, I have a bunch of "pre-historic" word docs that I want to convert  
to LyX. I've gathered that the best way to do this is by converting  
rtf to latex. (If anyone has a better suggestion I'm interested.)


I've scoured the LyX sites and the web for any info on rtf2latex2e.  
Seems that it was originally written on a mac classic os9. There are  
unix and windows versions but I can't find any for OSX for the Mac.  
I've tried to compile unix code on the mac but the source only  
recognizes OSX for PPC. Mine is intel. And I can't figure out how to  
add the correct host definition so I can compile it for intel.


I have managed to successfully run the Windows version of rtf2latex2e.  
And it does a fine job. I just don't like using Windows. The  
conversion definition is there in LyX 1.5.3 but the executable for  
rtf2latex2e isn't.


Does anyone know where I can get (binary or source for) rtf2latex2e  
for mac intel?


thanks much,
jamie faunt

Problem opening older LyX files

[jf7]

Hi, I've been using LyX for at least a few years now. And now, to my  
surprise I'm having a problem opening older LyX docs in 1.5.3 that I  
don't have in opening in 1.4.x.


These may have been created with LyX 1.3 or perhaps even earlier. 1.4  
has no problem opening them, but 1.5.3 crashes when I try to open  
these older LyX files. I don't have a problem opening docs created in  
1.4 with 1.5.3. But earlier ones are crashing LyX.


I looked all over the Wiki and can't find anything about this. I still  
have 1.4 and I tried opening and re-saving the files in LyX 1.4 and  
then opening (on another computer) in 1.5.3 and it didn't help.


Surely I've missed something along the way here. Can someone tell me  
what I have to do to make these older LyX docs open in 1.5.3?


thanks much,
jamie faunt

Re: Problem opening older LyX files

[jf7]

I found my problem. It was not an incompatibility with older LyX files  
but rather directory pointers for floats. Duh!


Anyway, I've edited these pointers and the older files open fine.

thanks,
jamie faunt

Problem opening older LyX files

[jf7]

Hi, I've been using LyX for at least a few years now. And now, to my  
surprise I'm having a problem opening older LyX docs in 1.5.3 that I  
don't have in opening in 1.4.x.


These may have been created with LyX 1.3 or perhaps even earlier. 1.4  
has no problem opening them, but 1.5.3 crashes when I try to open  
these older LyX files. I don't have a problem opening docs created in  
1.4 with 1.5.3. But earlier ones are crashing LyX.


I looked all over the Wiki and can't find anything about this. I still  
have 1.4 and I tried opening and re-saving the files in LyX 1.4 and  
then opening (on another computer) in 1.5.3 and it didn't help.


Surely I've missed something along the way here. Can someone tell me  
what I have to do to make these older LyX docs open in 1.5.3?


thanks much,
jamie faunt

Re: Problem opening older LyX files

[jf7]

I found my problem. It was not an incompatibility with older LyX files  
but rather directory pointers for floats. Duh!


Anyway, I've edited these pointers and the older files open fine.

thanks,
jamie faunt

Problem opening older LyX files

[jf7]

Hi, I've been using LyX for at least a few years now. And now, to my  
surprise I'm having a problem opening older LyX docs in 1.5.3 that I  
don't have in opening in 1.4.x.


These may have been created with LyX 1.3 or perhaps even earlier. 1.4  
has no problem opening them, but 1.5.3 crashes when I try to open  
these older LyX files. I don't have a problem opening docs created in  
1.4 with 1.5.3. But earlier ones are crashing LyX.


I looked all over the Wiki and can't find anything about this. I still  
have 1.4 and I tried opening and re-saving the files in LyX 1.4 and  
then opening (on another computer) in 1.5.3 and it didn't help.


Surely I've missed something along the way here. Can someone tell me  
what I have to do to make these older LyX docs open in 1.5.3?


thanks much,
jamie faunt

Re: Problem opening older LyX files

[jf7]

I found my problem. It was not an incompatibility with older LyX files  
but rather directory pointers for floats. Duh!


Anyway, I've edited these pointers and the older files open fine.

thanks,
jamie faunt

Re: footnotes problem, .rtf import, view source on 1.5.3

[jf7]

Quoting rgheck [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Quoting rgheck [EMAIL PROTECTED]:




You don't have Use Paragraph's Default Alignment? The point of this
option is to undo customization. That's why I added it. ;-)


Ah! I didn't try it before because it says [justified] But this  
  indeed fixes the formatting of the pasted footnote content.   
Thanks!



Hmm. We had a really, really long discussion about what this button
should say. And now it looks as if maybe we chose badly. Would
Default by itself have been clearer? Or would removing the
[Justified] part have been helpful? I'd like to get this right.

rh


My take is that if justified wasn't there I probably would have   
tried it. But if it actually removes paragraph formatting (even if   
it resorts to the default for the context) wouldn't it be clearer   
to say Remove Paragraph Formatting?  I'm surmising it's doing   
both. So I understand the problem in the wording. And I appreciate   
your interest in the detail here!


The short version of why it doesn't say that is that, if there's no
special formatting, then that box will be checked to represent that
there is no special formatting. But I suppose we could change the label
depending upon which situation we're in.

rh


I just noticed that these imported docs have some rag-right (left)  
formatting in them which were left over from the import, and some  
randomly justified paragraphs. In this case the button as labeled  
makes perfect sense because that's what it does.


But where I ran into this was in trying to format a footnote to which  
I wouldn't think justified would apply except for the fact that the  
marker is in a justified paragraph.


From my view I was trying to format a footnote and get rid of an  
extra blank line in the footnote footer region. So it didn't occur to  
me that justified would apply to that. But maybe it does. (paragraph  
formatting is otherwise defined in the class?) I think that even if  
justified is correct,  it was a little mis-leading -- perhaps just  
due to my ignorance. However the original text Apply Paragraph's  
Default Alignment by itself is accurate because it would have implied  
to me that it might properly format a footnote -- which it does!


Now that I know that it does properly format what ever style, that it  
says justified isn't a problem. But then I don't know if it applies  
to every style to which it could be applied. If it does, I don't see a  
problem leaving it there since it would be accurate in that case. If  
it doesn't, then either leaving it out or having it change by context  
would keep it accurate.


I can see why this detail was a long discussion. I hope my  
user-feedback is of some help. You guys are doing an awesome job!


jamie faunt

Re: footnotes problem, .rtf import, view source on 1.5.3

[jf7]

Quoting rgheck [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

From my view I was trying to format a footnote and get rid of an   
extra blank line in the footnote footer region. So it didn't occur   
to me that justified would apply to that. But maybe it does.   
(paragraph formatting is otherwise defined in the class?) I think   
that even if justified is correct,  it was a little mis-leading   
-- perhaps just due to my ignorance. However the original text   
Apply Paragraph's Default Alignment by itself is accurate because  
 it would have implied to me that it might properly format a   
footnote -- which it does!



In principle, a footnote could be formatted differently from the main
text---though that would look quite silly. It may be that 1.6 won't
allow such customization in footnotes. It probably shouldn't if it does.

Richard


I'm not quite sure why you're mentioning customizing them. I'm happy  
with how it fixed them. If it continues to standardize them, then  
that'll be great.


jf

Re: footnotes problem, .rtf import, view source on 1.5.3

[jf7]

Quoting rgheck [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Quoting rgheck [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

From my view I was trying to format a footnote and get rid of an   
 extra blank line in the footnote footer region. So it didn't   
occur  to me that justified would apply to that. But maybe it   
does.  (paragraph formatting is otherwise defined in the class?)   
I think  that even if justified is correct,  it was a little   
mis-leading  -- perhaps just due to my ignorance. However the   
original text  Apply Paragraph's Default Alignment by itself is  
 accurate because  it would have implied to me that it might   
properly format a  footnote -- which it does!



In principle, a footnote could be formatted differently from the main
text---though that would look quite silly. It may be that 1.6 won't
allow such customization in footnotes. It probably shouldn't if it does.


I'm not quite sure why you're mentioning customizing them. I'm   
happy with how it fixed them. If it continues to standardize them,   
then that'll be great.



What I meant was: Maybe LyX shouldn't have permitted the problem in the
first place.


Ah -- I see. Yeah -- that would be good. Thanks!
jf

Re: footnotes problem, .rtf import, view source on 1.5.3

[jf7]

Quoting rgheck [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Quoting rgheck [EMAIL PROTECTED]:




You don't have Use Paragraph's Default Alignment? The point of this
option is to undo customization. That's why I added it. ;-)


Ah! I didn't try it before because it says [justified] But this  
  indeed fixes the formatting of the pasted footnote content.   
Thanks!



Hmm. We had a really, really long discussion about what this button
should say. And now it looks as if maybe we chose badly. Would
Default by itself have been clearer? Or would removing the
[Justified] part have been helpful? I'd like to get this right.

rh


My take is that if justified wasn't there I probably would have   
tried it. But if it actually removes paragraph formatting (even if   
it resorts to the default for the context) wouldn't it be clearer   
to say Remove Paragraph Formatting?  I'm surmising it's doing   
both. So I understand the problem in the wording. And I appreciate   
your interest in the detail here!


The short version of why it doesn't say that is that, if there's no
special formatting, then that box will be checked to represent that
there is no special formatting. But I suppose we could change the label
depending upon which situation we're in.

rh


I just noticed that these imported docs have some rag-right (left)  
formatting in them which were left over from the import, and some  
randomly justified paragraphs. In this case the button as labeled  
makes perfect sense because that's what it does.


But where I ran into this was in trying to format a footnote to which  
I wouldn't think justified would apply except for the fact that the  
marker is in a justified paragraph.


From my view I was trying to format a footnote and get rid of an  
extra blank line in the footnote footer region. So it didn't occur to  
me that justified would apply to that. But maybe it does. (paragraph  
formatting is otherwise defined in the class?) I think that even if  
justified is correct,  it was a little mis-leading -- perhaps just  
due to my ignorance. However the original text Apply Paragraph's  
Default Alignment by itself is accurate because it would have implied  
to me that it might properly format a footnote -- which it does!


Now that I know that it does properly format what ever style, that it  
says justified isn't a problem. But then I don't know if it applies  
to every style to which it could be applied. If it does, I don't see a  
problem leaving it there since it would be accurate in that case. If  
it doesn't, then either leaving it out or having it change by context  
would keep it accurate.


I can see why this detail was a long discussion. I hope my  
user-feedback is of some help. You guys are doing an awesome job!


jamie faunt

Re: footnotes problem, .rtf import, view source on 1.5.3

[jf7]

Quoting rgheck [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

From my view I was trying to format a footnote and get rid of an   
extra blank line in the footnote footer region. So it didn't occur   
to me that justified would apply to that. But maybe it does.   
(paragraph formatting is otherwise defined in the class?) I think   
that even if justified is correct,  it was a little mis-leading   
-- perhaps just due to my ignorance. However the original text   
Apply Paragraph's Default Alignment by itself is accurate because  
 it would have implied to me that it might properly format a   
footnote -- which it does!



In principle, a footnote could be formatted differently from the main
text---though that would look quite silly. It may be that 1.6 won't
allow such customization in footnotes. It probably shouldn't if it does.

Richard


I'm not quite sure why you're mentioning customizing them. I'm happy  
with how it fixed them. If it continues to standardize them, then  
that'll be great.


jf

Re: footnotes problem, .rtf import, view source on 1.5.3

[jf7]

Quoting rgheck [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Quoting rgheck [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

From my view I was trying to format a footnote and get rid of an   
 extra blank line in the footnote footer region. So it didn't   
occur  to me that justified would apply to that. But maybe it   
does.  (paragraph formatting is otherwise defined in the class?)   
I think  that even if justified is correct,  it was a little   
mis-leading  -- perhaps just due to my ignorance. However the   
original text  Apply Paragraph's Default Alignment by itself is  
 accurate because  it would have implied to me that it might   
properly format a  footnote -- which it does!



In principle, a footnote could be formatted differently from the main
text---though that would look quite silly. It may be that 1.6 won't
allow such customization in footnotes. It probably shouldn't if it does.


I'm not quite sure why you're mentioning customizing them. I'm   
happy with how it fixed them. If it continues to standardize them,   
then that'll be great.



What I meant was: Maybe LyX shouldn't have permitted the problem in the
first place.


Ah -- I see. Yeah -- that would be good. Thanks!
jf

Re: footnotes problem, .rtf import, view source on 1.5.3

[jf7]

Quoting rgheck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Quoting rgheck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:




You don't have "Use Paragraph's Default Alignment"? The point of this
option is to undo customization. That's why I added it. ;-)


Ah! I didn't try it before because it says "[justified]" But this  
  indeed fixes the formatting of the pasted footnote content.   
Thanks!



Hmm. We had a really, really long discussion about what this button
should say. And now it looks as if maybe we chose badly. Would
"Default" by itself have been clearer? Or would removing the
"[Justified]" part have been helpful? I'd like to get this right.

rh


My take is that if "justified" wasn't there I probably would have   
tried it. But if it actually removes paragraph formatting (even if   
it resorts to the default for the context) wouldn't it be clearer   
to say "Remove Paragraph Formatting"?  I'm surmising it's doing   
both. So I understand the problem in the wording. And I appreciate   
your interest in the detail here!


The short version of why it doesn't say that is that, if there's no
special formatting, then that box will be checked to represent that
there is no special formatting. But I suppose we could change the label
depending upon which situation we're in.

rh


I just noticed that these imported docs have some rag-right (left)  
formatting in them which were left over from the import, and some  
randomly justified paragraphs. In this case the button as labeled  
makes perfect sense because that's what it does.


But where I ran into this was in trying to format a footnote to which  
I wouldn't think "justified" would apply except for the fact that the  
marker is in a justified paragraph.


From my view I was trying to format a footnote and get rid of an  
extra blank line in the footnote footer region. So it didn't occur to  
me that "justified" would apply to that. But maybe it does. (paragraph  
formatting is otherwise defined in the class?) I think that even if  
"justified" is correct,  it was a little mis-leading -- perhaps just  
due to my ignorance. However the original text "Apply Paragraph's  
Default Alignment" by itself is accurate because it would have implied  
to me that it might properly format a footnote -- which it does!


Now that I know that it does properly format what ever style, that it  
says "justified" isn't a problem. But then I don't know if it applies  
to every style to which it could be applied. If it does, I don't see a  
problem leaving it there since it would be accurate in that case. If  
it doesn't, then either leaving it out or having it change by context  
would keep it accurate.


I can see why this detail was a long discussion. I hope my  
user-feedback is of some help. You guys are doing an awesome job!


jamie faunt

Re: footnotes problem, .rtf import, view source on 1.5.3

[jf7]

Quoting rgheck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

From my view I was trying to format a footnote and get rid of an   
extra blank line in the footnote footer region. So it didn't occur   
to me that "justified" would apply to that. But maybe it does.   
(paragraph formatting is otherwise defined in the class?) I think   
that even if "justified" is correct,  it was a little mis-leading   
-- perhaps just due to my ignorance. However the original text   
"Apply Paragraph's Default Alignment" by itself is accurate because  
 it would have implied to me that it might properly format a   
footnote -- which it does!



In principle, a footnote could be formatted differently from the main
text---though that would look quite silly. It may be that 1.6 won't
allow such customization in footnotes. It probably shouldn't if it does.

Richard


I'm not quite sure why you're mentioning customizing them. I'm happy  
with how it fixed them. If it continues to standardize them, then  
that'll be great.


jf

Re: footnotes problem, .rtf import, view source on 1.5.3

[jf7]

Quoting rgheck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Quoting rgheck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

From my view I was trying to format a footnote and get rid of an   
 extra blank line in the footnote footer region. So it didn't   
occur  to me that "justified" would apply to that. But maybe it   
does.  (paragraph formatting is otherwise defined in the class?)   
I think  that even if "justified" is correct,  it was a little   
mis-leading  -- perhaps just due to my ignorance. However the   
original text  "Apply Paragraph's Default Alignment" by itself is  
 accurate because  it would have implied to me that it might   
properly format a  footnote -- which it does!



In principle, a footnote could be formatted differently from the main
text---though that would look quite silly. It may be that 1.6 won't
allow such customization in footnotes. It probably shouldn't if it does.


I'm not quite sure why you're mentioning customizing them. I'm   
happy with how it fixed them. If it continues to standardize them,   
then that'll be great.



What I meant was: Maybe LyX shouldn't have permitted the problem in the
first place.


Ah -- I see. Yeah -- that would be good. Thanks!
jf

Re: footnotes problem, .rtf import, view source on 1.5.3

[jf7]

Quoting rgheck [EMAIL PROTECTED]:



1) creating a footnote from existing text causing unusable formatting.


I'm not following your description of this problem. Is the problem that
when you copy and paste, LyX is copying the paragraph formatting? -- If
so, you can edit the formatting by selecting Edit  Paragraph Settings



I've tried to fix it with Edit  Paragraph by selecting just the   
footnote text as well as the whole paragraph. Doesn't solve it --   
presumably because it doesn't have an option to undo the formatting  
 -- I can only choose, left, right, justified or centered.



You don't have Use Paragraph's Default Alignment? The point of this
option is to undo customization. That's why I added it. ;-)


Ah! I didn't try it before because it says [justified] But this  
indeed fixes the formatting of the pasted footnote content. Thanks!





The problem is that when I create a new footnote and paste text   
into it from elsewhere, (OR if I select text and execute footnote   
-- either way) it adds a whole blank line between the footnote   
number and the footnote text in the dvi or ps view of the footnote   
footer.


Seems that in earlier versions of LyX this was never a problem. Now  
 the only way I can do it is to completely re-type the footnote   
contents.



I'm guessing that the problem here is that you have paragraph alignment
set in the text you are cutting, and then that is added to the footnote
when you paste. Paste works that way. Maybe it shouldn't.


Probably would be good if it didn't since the intended use would be  
the characters not their paragraph attributes which would be defined  
by the context.


I also found that I had to delete and retype section and chapter  
titles in these docs that were converted from latex. Probably the  
default paragraph alignment would fix this too though now I'm unable  
to re-create the problem because I'll need a new import to do so.  
Newly typed text is not a problem with any of these formatting issues  
-- only imported latex as far as I've found.


jamie faunt

Re: footnotes problem, .rtf import, view source on 1.5.3

[jf7]

Quoting rgheck [EMAIL PROTECTED]:




You don't have Use Paragraph's Default Alignment? The point of this
option is to undo customization. That's why I added it. ;-)


Ah! I didn't try it before because it says [justified] But this   
indeed fixes the formatting of the pasted footnote content. Thanks!



Hmm. We had a really, really long discussion about what this button
should say. And now it looks as if maybe we chose badly. Would
Default by itself have been clearer? Or would removing the
[Justified] part have been helpful? I'd like to get this right.

rh


My take is that if justified wasn't there I probably would have  
tried it. But if it actually removes paragraph formatting (even if it  
resorts to the default for the context) wouldn't it be clearer to say  
Remove Paragraph Formatting?  I'm surmising it's doing both. So I  
understand the problem in the wording. And I appreciate your interest  
in the detail here!


How about Remove the paragraph formatting you didn't really want?  
:-) But then you might want to save the telepathic features of the  
program for a later version. :-)


jamie faunt

Re: footnotes problem, .rtf import, view source on 1.5.3

[jf7]

Quoting rgheck [EMAIL PROTECTED]:



1) creating a footnote from existing text causing unusable formatting.


I'm not following your description of this problem. Is the problem that
when you copy and paste, LyX is copying the paragraph formatting? -- If
so, you can edit the formatting by selecting Edit  Paragraph Settings



I've tried to fix it with Edit  Paragraph by selecting just the   
footnote text as well as the whole paragraph. Doesn't solve it --   
presumably because it doesn't have an option to undo the formatting  
 -- I can only choose, left, right, justified or centered.



You don't have Use Paragraph's Default Alignment? The point of this
option is to undo customization. That's why I added it. ;-)


Ah! I didn't try it before because it says [justified] But this  
indeed fixes the formatting of the pasted footnote content. Thanks!





The problem is that when I create a new footnote and paste text   
into it from elsewhere, (OR if I select text and execute footnote   
-- either way) it adds a whole blank line between the footnote   
number and the footnote text in the dvi or ps view of the footnote   
footer.


Seems that in earlier versions of LyX this was never a problem. Now  
 the only way I can do it is to completely re-type the footnote   
contents.



I'm guessing that the problem here is that you have paragraph alignment
set in the text you are cutting, and then that is added to the footnote
when you paste. Paste works that way. Maybe it shouldn't.


Probably would be good if it didn't since the intended use would be  
the characters not their paragraph attributes which would be defined  
by the context.


I also found that I had to delete and retype section and chapter  
titles in these docs that were converted from latex. Probably the  
default paragraph alignment would fix this too though now I'm unable  
to re-create the problem because I'll need a new import to do so.  
Newly typed text is not a problem with any of these formatting issues  
-- only imported latex as far as I've found.


jamie faunt

Re: footnotes problem, .rtf import, view source on 1.5.3

[jf7]

Quoting rgheck [EMAIL PROTECTED]:




You don't have Use Paragraph's Default Alignment? The point of this
option is to undo customization. That's why I added it. ;-)


Ah! I didn't try it before because it says [justified] But this   
indeed fixes the formatting of the pasted footnote content. Thanks!



Hmm. We had a really, really long discussion about what this button
should say. And now it looks as if maybe we chose badly. Would
Default by itself have been clearer? Or would removing the
[Justified] part have been helpful? I'd like to get this right.

rh


My take is that if justified wasn't there I probably would have  
tried it. But if it actually removes paragraph formatting (even if it  
resorts to the default for the context) wouldn't it be clearer to say  
Remove Paragraph Formatting?  I'm surmising it's doing both. So I  
understand the problem in the wording. And I appreciate your interest  
in the detail here!


How about Remove the paragraph formatting you didn't really want?  
:-) But then you might want to save the telepathic features of the  
program for a later version. :-)


jamie faunt

Re: footnotes problem, .rtf import, view source on 1.5.3

[jf7]

Quoting rgheck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:



1) creating a footnote from existing text causing unusable formatting.


I'm not following your description of this problem. Is the problem that
when you copy and paste, LyX is copying the paragraph formatting? -- If
so, you can edit the formatting by selecting Edit > Paragraph Settings



I've tried to fix it with Edit > Paragraph by selecting just the   
footnote text as well as the whole paragraph. Doesn't solve it --   
presumably because it doesn't have an option to undo the formatting  
 -- I can only choose, left, right, justified or centered.



You don't have "Use Paragraph's Default Alignment"? The point of this
option is to undo customization. That's why I added it. ;-)


Ah! I didn't try it before because it says "[justified]" But this  
indeed fixes the formatting of the pasted footnote content. Thanks!





The problem is that when I create a new footnote and paste text   
into it from elsewhere, (OR if I select text and execute footnote   
-- either way) it adds a whole blank line between the footnote   
number and the footnote text in the dvi or ps view of the footnote   
footer.


Seems that in earlier versions of LyX this was never a problem. Now  
 the only way I can do it is to completely re-type the footnote   
contents.



I'm guessing that the problem here is that you have paragraph alignment
set in the text you are cutting, and then that is added to the footnote
when you paste. Paste works that way. Maybe it shouldn't.


Probably would be good if it didn't since the intended use would be  
the characters not their paragraph attributes which would be defined  
by the context.


I also found that I had to delete and retype section and chapter  
titles in these docs that were converted from latex. Probably the  
default paragraph alignment would fix this too though now I'm unable  
to re-create the problem because I'll need a new import to do so.  
Newly typed text is not a problem with any of these formatting issues  
-- only imported latex as far as I've found.


jamie faunt

Re: footnotes problem, .rtf import, view source on 1.5.3

[jf7]

Quoting rgheck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:




You don't have "Use Paragraph's Default Alignment"? The point of this
option is to undo customization. That's why I added it. ;-)


Ah! I didn't try it before because it says "[justified]" But this   
indeed fixes the formatting of the pasted footnote content. Thanks!



Hmm. We had a really, really long discussion about what this button
should say. And now it looks as if maybe we chose badly. Would
"Default" by itself have been clearer? Or would removing the
"[Justified]" part have been helpful? I'd like to get this right.

rh


My take is that if "justified" wasn't there I probably would have  
tried it. But if it actually removes paragraph formatting (even if it  
resorts to the default for the context) wouldn't it be clearer to say  
"Remove Paragraph Formatting"?  I'm surmising it's doing both. So I  
understand the problem in the wording. And I appreciate your interest  
in the detail here!


How about "Remove the paragraph formatting you didn't really want?"  
:-) But then you might want to save the telepathic features of the  
program for a later version. :-)


jamie faunt

footnotes problem, .rtf import, view source on 1.5.3

[jf7]

Hi, I'm converting some documents into LyX. As a side-note, I can't  
get .rtf import to work but can seem to import latex files. It would  
be easier if I could import .rtf files.


Anyway, the problem is that once imported, I need to re-configure the  
footnotes. When I create a footnote and copy and paste the contents  
into the new blank footnote, it formats it with a blank line in the  
footnotes footer between the footnote number and the text of the  
footnote. Same thing happens when I select the text and then use a  
footnote command.


In viewing the source I see the problem is the {flushleft} paragraph  
command at the beginning of the footnote.


I can't delete this from view source. And in fact another problem is  
that when I put the cursor in another paragraph, the view source  
insists on giving me the old paragraph that is no longer selected.  
Seems like a bug.


So the only way I've been able to get rid of the blank line between  
the footnote number and its contents is to completely re-type the  
footnote into a new footnote inset.


This isn't as bad as re-typing the whole document certainly. But it is  
a bit of a pain when there are more than a few footnotes in a doc.


One work-around would be if there a way I can edit the source from  
within LyX. Can I?


Or better, is there a way I can select and create footnotes from  
existing text without it creating this formatting problem that causes  
me to completely re-type?



In summary, I'm mentioning a few problems here:

Main one is:

1) creating a footnote from existing text causing unusable formatting.

Also:

2) being able to import .rtf files

3) Getting view source to view the paragraph in which the cursor  
resides as the User Guide says it will.


4) editing source from within LyX.


Help / insights on any of the above appreciated.

thanks,
jamie faunt

copyright symbol on mac

[jf7]

Hi, I know I can use ERT \copyright to get a copyright symbol on a mac  
LyX 1.5.3. I used to be able to get it with a keystroke combination in  
linux.


Does anyone know a keystroke for the copyright symbol that would work  
on a mac?


thanks,
jamie faunt

Re: footnotes problem, .rtf import, view source on 1.5.3

[jf7]

Quoting Bennett Helm [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


On Feb 24, 2008, at 9:13 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

...


In summary, I'm mentioning a few problems here:

Main one is:

1) creating a footnote from existing text causing unusable formatting.


I'm not following your description of this problem. Is the problem that
when you copy and paste, LyX is copying the paragraph formatting? -- If
so, you can edit the formatting by selecting Edit  Paragraph Settings



I've tried to fix it with Edit  Paragraph by selecting just the  
footnote text as well as the whole paragraph. Doesn't solve it --  
presumably because it doesn't have an option to undo the formatting --  
I can only choose, left, right, justified or centered.


The problem is that when I create a new footnote and paste text into  
it from elsewhere, (OR if I select text and execute footnote -- either  
way) it adds a whole blank line between the footnote number and the  
footnote text in the dvi or ps view of the footnote footer.


Seems that in earlier versions of LyX this was never a problem. Now  
the only way I can do it is to completely re-type the footnote contents.





2) being able to import .rtf files


I've found it's easiest to convert .rtf to .tex, then edit the .tex
file to clean it up, removing all the excess formatting with simple
search and replace, and then import into LyX.


thanks -- I'll try that.



3) Getting view source to view the paragraph in which the cursor   
resides as the User Guide says it will.


It seems like this problem arises when the Automatic update option is
unchecked; this indeed seems to be a bug. The workaround is to check
that option, and everything should work as expected -- at least it does
for me.


Yes -- you're right -- this solves it. Thanks!

Thanks also for the keystroke for copyright. That works. :-)

jamie faunt

footnotes problem, .rtf import, view source on 1.5.3

[jf7]

Hi, I'm converting some documents into LyX. As a side-note, I can't  
get .rtf import to work but can seem to import latex files. It would  
be easier if I could import .rtf files.


Anyway, the problem is that once imported, I need to re-configure the  
footnotes. When I create a footnote and copy and paste the contents  
into the new blank footnote, it formats it with a blank line in the  
footnotes footer between the footnote number and the text of the  
footnote. Same thing happens when I select the text and then use a  
footnote command.


In viewing the source I see the problem is the {flushleft} paragraph  
command at the beginning of the footnote.


I can't delete this from view source. And in fact another problem is  
that when I put the cursor in another paragraph, the view source  
insists on giving me the old paragraph that is no longer selected.  
Seems like a bug.


So the only way I've been able to get rid of the blank line between  
the footnote number and its contents is to completely re-type the  
footnote into a new footnote inset.


This isn't as bad as re-typing the whole document certainly. But it is  
a bit of a pain when there are more than a few footnotes in a doc.


One work-around would be if there a way I can edit the source from  
within LyX. Can I?


Or better, is there a way I can select and create footnotes from  
existing text without it creating this formatting problem that causes  
me to completely re-type?



In summary, I'm mentioning a few problems here:

Main one is:

1) creating a footnote from existing text causing unusable formatting.

Also:

2) being able to import .rtf files

3) Getting view source to view the paragraph in which the cursor  
resides as the User Guide says it will.


4) editing source from within LyX.


Help / insights on any of the above appreciated.

thanks,
jamie faunt

copyright symbol on mac

[jf7]

Hi, I know I can use ERT \copyright to get a copyright symbol on a mac  
LyX 1.5.3. I used to be able to get it with a keystroke combination in  
linux.


Does anyone know a keystroke for the copyright symbol that would work  
on a mac?


thanks,
jamie faunt

Re: footnotes problem, .rtf import, view source on 1.5.3

[jf7]

Quoting Bennett Helm [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


On Feb 24, 2008, at 9:13 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

...


In summary, I'm mentioning a few problems here:

Main one is:

1) creating a footnote from existing text causing unusable formatting.


I'm not following your description of this problem. Is the problem that
when you copy and paste, LyX is copying the paragraph formatting? -- If
so, you can edit the formatting by selecting Edit  Paragraph Settings



I've tried to fix it with Edit  Paragraph by selecting just the  
footnote text as well as the whole paragraph. Doesn't solve it --  
presumably because it doesn't have an option to undo the formatting --  
I can only choose, left, right, justified or centered.


The problem is that when I create a new footnote and paste text into  
it from elsewhere, (OR if I select text and execute footnote -- either  
way) it adds a whole blank line between the footnote number and the  
footnote text in the dvi or ps view of the footnote footer.


Seems that in earlier versions of LyX this was never a problem. Now  
the only way I can do it is to completely re-type the footnote contents.





2) being able to import .rtf files


I've found it's easiest to convert .rtf to .tex, then edit the .tex
file to clean it up, removing all the excess formatting with simple
search and replace, and then import into LyX.


thanks -- I'll try that.



3) Getting view source to view the paragraph in which the cursor   
resides as the User Guide says it will.


It seems like this problem arises when the Automatic update option is
unchecked; this indeed seems to be a bug. The workaround is to check
that option, and everything should work as expected -- at least it does
for me.


Yes -- you're right -- this solves it. Thanks!

Thanks also for the keystroke for copyright. That works. :-)

jamie faunt

footnotes problem, .rtf import, view source on 1.5.3

[jf7]

Hi, I'm converting some documents into LyX. As a side-note, I can't  
get .rtf import to work but can seem to import latex files. It would  
be easier if I could import .rtf files.


Anyway, the problem is that once imported, I need to re-configure the  
footnotes. When I create a footnote and copy and paste the contents  
into the new blank footnote, it formats it with a blank line in the  
footnotes footer between the footnote number and the text of the  
footnote. Same thing happens when I select the text and then use a  
footnote command.


In viewing the source I see the problem is the {flushleft} paragraph  
command at the beginning of the footnote.


I can't delete this from view source. And in fact another problem is  
that when I put the cursor in another paragraph, the view source  
insists on giving me the old paragraph that is no longer selected.  
Seems like a bug.


So the only way I've been able to get rid of the blank line between  
the footnote number and its contents is to completely re-type the  
footnote into a new footnote inset.


This isn't as bad as re-typing the whole document certainly. But it is  
a bit of a pain when there are more than a few footnotes in a doc.


One work-around would be if there a way I can edit the source from  
within LyX. Can I?


Or better, is there a way I can select and create footnotes from  
existing text without it creating this formatting problem that causes  
me to completely re-type?



In summary, I'm mentioning a few problems here:

Main one is:

1) creating a footnote from existing text causing unusable formatting.

Also:

2) being able to import .rtf files

3) Getting view source to view the paragraph in which the cursor  
resides as the User Guide says it will.


4) editing source from within LyX.


Help / insights on any of the above appreciated.

thanks,
jamie faunt

copyright symbol on mac

[jf7]

Hi, I know I can use ERT \copyright to get a copyright symbol on a mac  
LyX 1.5.3. I used to be able to get it with a keystroke combination in  
linux.


Does anyone know a keystroke for the copyright symbol that would work  
on a mac?


thanks,
jamie faunt

Re: footnotes problem, .rtf import, view source on 1.5.3

[jf7]

Quoting Bennett Helm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


On Feb 24, 2008, at 9:13 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

...


In summary, I'm mentioning a few problems here:

Main one is:

1) creating a footnote from existing text causing unusable formatting.


I'm not following your description of this problem. Is the problem that
when you copy and paste, LyX is copying the paragraph formatting? -- If
so, you can edit the formatting by selecting Edit > Paragraph Settings



I've tried to fix it with Edit > Paragraph by selecting just the  
footnote text as well as the whole paragraph. Doesn't solve it --  
presumably because it doesn't have an option to undo the formatting --  
I can only choose, left, right, justified or centered.


The problem is that when I create a new footnote and paste text into  
it from elsewhere, (OR if I select text and execute footnote -- either  
way) it adds a whole blank line between the footnote number and the  
footnote text in the dvi or ps view of the footnote footer.


Seems that in earlier versions of LyX this was never a problem. Now  
the only way I can do it is to completely re-type the footnote contents.





2) being able to import .rtf files


I've found it's easiest to convert .rtf to .tex, then edit the .tex
file to clean it up, removing all the excess formatting with simple
search and replace, and then import into LyX.


thanks -- I'll try that.



3) Getting view source to view the paragraph in which the cursor   
resides as the User Guide says it will.


It seems like this problem arises when the "Automatic update" option is
unchecked; this indeed seems to be a bug. The workaround is to check
that option, and everything should work as expected -- at least it does
for me.


Yes -- you're right -- this solves it. Thanks!

Thanks also for the keystroke for copyright. That works. :-)

jamie faunt

Re: Printing from LyX on a mac

[jf7]

Quoting John Culleton [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


On Wednesday 06 February 2008 11:36:47 pm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi, I've been using LyX for years -- since maybe 1.2 or earlier. I've
always been able to print well-formatted out-put directly from LyX.
But now on 1.5.3 I cannot.

I have dvips defined as the print command in preferences. And it does
print but it cuts off the footer no matter what I do.

I can print from the dvi directly where this is not a problem but then
I can't specify odd or even pages like I can by printing directly from
LyX.

Does anyone know what I missing here that I might be able to recover
my ability to print fully formatted docs in LyX 1.5.3?

thanks,
jamie faunt




Speaking from the depths of my ignorance, I suspect you are trying   
to print A4

pages on letter paper.



Thanks for the reply, John. That's a good guess. But I've got it  
configured for US Letter format on same paper.


jamie



--
John Culleton
Resources for every author and publisher:
http://wexfordpress.com/tex/shortlist.pdf
http://wexfordpress.com/tex/packagers.pdf
http://www.creativemindspress.com/newbiefaq.htm
http://www.gropenassoc.com/TopLevelPages/reference%20desk.htm

Re: Printing from LyX on a mac

[jf7]

Quoting John Culleton [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


On Wednesday 06 February 2008 11:36:47 pm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi, I've been using LyX for years -- since maybe 1.2 or earlier. I've
always been able to print well-formatted out-put directly from LyX.
But now on 1.5.3 I cannot.

I have dvips defined as the print command in preferences. And it does
print but it cuts off the footer no matter what I do.

I can print from the dvi directly where this is not a problem but then
I can't specify odd or even pages like I can by printing directly from
LyX.

Does anyone know what I missing here that I might be able to recover
my ability to print fully formatted docs in LyX 1.5.3?

thanks,
jamie faunt




Speaking from the depths of my ignorance, I suspect you are trying   
to print A4

pages on letter paper.



Thanks for the reply, John. That's a good guess. But I've got it  
configured for US Letter format on same paper.


jamie



--
John Culleton
Resources for every author and publisher:
http://wexfordpress.com/tex/shortlist.pdf
http://wexfordpress.com/tex/packagers.pdf
http://www.creativemindspress.com/newbiefaq.htm
http://www.gropenassoc.com/TopLevelPages/reference%20desk.htm

Re: Printing from LyX on a mac

[jf7]

Quoting John Culleton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


On Wednesday 06 February 2008 11:36:47 pm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi, I've been using LyX for years -- since maybe 1.2 or earlier. I've
always been able to print well-formatted out-put directly from LyX.
But now on 1.5.3 I cannot.

I have dvips defined as the print command in preferences. And it does
print but it cuts off the footer no matter what I do.

I can print from the dvi directly where this is not a problem but then
I can't specify odd or even pages like I can by printing directly from
LyX.

Does anyone know what I missing here that I might be able to recover
my ability to print fully formatted docs in LyX 1.5.3?

thanks,
jamie faunt




Speaking from the depths of my ignorance, I suspect you are trying   
to print A4

pages on letter paper.



Thanks for the reply, John. That's a good guess. But I've got it  
configured for US Letter format on same paper.


jamie



--
John Culleton
Resources for every author and publisher:
http://wexfordpress.com/tex/shortlist.pdf
http://wexfordpress.com/tex/packagers.pdf
http://www.creativemindspress.com/newbiefaq.htm
http://www.gropenassoc.com/TopLevelPages/reference%20desk.htm

Printing from LyX on a mac

[jf7]

Hi, I've been using LyX for years -- since maybe 1.2 or earlier. I've  
always been able to print well-formatted out-put directly from LyX.  
But now on 1.5.3 I cannot.


I have dvips defined as the print command in preferences. And it does  
print but it cuts off the footer no matter what I do.


I can print from the dvi directly where this is not a problem but then  
I can't specify odd or even pages like I can by printing directly from  
LyX.


Does anyone know what I missing here that I might be able to recover  
my ability to print fully formatted docs in LyX 1.5.3?


thanks,
jamie faunt

Printing from LyX on a mac

[jf7]

Hi, I've been using LyX for years -- since maybe 1.2 or earlier. I've  
always been able to print well-formatted out-put directly from LyX.  
But now on 1.5.3 I cannot.


I have dvips defined as the print command in preferences. And it does  
print but it cuts off the footer no matter what I do.


I can print from the dvi directly where this is not a problem but then  
I can't specify odd or even pages like I can by printing directly from  
LyX.


Does anyone know what I missing here that I might be able to recover  
my ability to print fully formatted docs in LyX 1.5.3?


thanks,
jamie faunt

Printing from LyX on a mac

[jf7]

Hi, I've been using LyX for years -- since maybe 1.2 or earlier. I've  
always been able to print well-formatted out-put directly from LyX.  
But now on 1.5.3 I cannot.


I have dvips defined as the print command in preferences. And it does  
print but it cuts off the footer no matter what I do.


I can print from the dvi directly where this is not a problem but then  
I can't specify odd or even pages like I can by printing directly from  
LyX.


Does anyone know what I missing here that I might be able to recover  
my ability to print fully formatted docs in LyX 1.5.3?


thanks,
jamie faunt

inserting external material: lilypond

[jf7]

Hi, I see that LyX 1.4.4 includes Lilypond music in Preferences-File 
Formats. And, I see that it accommodates Lilypond music in Insert-External 
Material as a filetype.


But I must be missing a converter because I cannot get it to display a lilypond 
file in the DVI or a PDF viewer. (I get an error.)


There is no converter listed for converting .ly files to either .ps, .eps, or 
.pdf. IS this what's missing?


I've tried inserting the .ly as well as .ps and .pdf files -- it seems to want 
the native .ly files. But all result in failure.


I have Lilypond 2.10.14-1 installed and it works fine. (I use LyX on a 
linux box as well as an Intel Mac which is where I'm working with 
Lilypond.)


Does someone here know what I'm missing?

thanks much,
jamie faunt

inserting external material: lilypond

[jf7]

Hi, I see that LyX 1.4.4 includes Lilypond music in Preferences-File 
Formats. And, I see that it accommodates Lilypond music in Insert-External 
Material as a filetype.


But I must be missing a converter because I cannot get it to display a lilypond 
file in the DVI or a PDF viewer. (I get an error.)


There is no converter listed for converting .ly files to either .ps, .eps, or 
.pdf. IS this what's missing?


I've tried inserting the .ly as well as .ps and .pdf files -- it seems to want 
the native .ly files. But all result in failure.


I have Lilypond 2.10.14-1 installed and it works fine. (I use LyX on a 
linux box as well as an Intel Mac which is where I'm working with 
Lilypond.)


Does someone here know what I'm missing?

thanks much,
jamie faunt

inserting external material: lilypond

[jf7]

Hi, I see that LyX 1.4.4 includes "Lilypond music" in Preferences->File 
Formats. And, I see that it accommodates Lilypond music in Insert->External 
Material as a filetype.


But I must be missing a converter because I cannot get it to display a lilypond 
file in the DVI or a PDF viewer. (I get an error.)


There is no converter listed for converting .ly files to either .ps, .eps, or 
.pdf. IS this what's missing?


I've tried inserting the .ly as well as .ps and .pdf files -- it seems to want 
the native .ly files. But all result in failure.


I have Lilypond 2.10.14-1 installed and it works fine. (I use LyX on a 
linux box as well as an Intel Mac which is where I'm working with 
Lilypond.)


Does someone here know what I'm missing?

thanks much,
jamie faunt