Re: Pb with bullet shapes + some questions and/or sugestions

1999-11-17 Thread Allan Rae

On 17 Nov 1999, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:

> > "Francois" == Francois Beaubert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> Francois> 1) Does anybody try to use the bullet shapes popup with the
> Francois> language of the document set to frenchb?
[...] 
> Francois> This work great with the language of the document set to
> Francois> default. Any idea?
> 
> Yes. The definition of the bullet shape should be done using 
>   \AtBeginDocument{\renewcommand\labelitemi[0]{\(\Diamond\)}}
> instead of 
>   \renewcommand\labelitemi[0]{\(\Diamond\)}
> 
> [In fact, to be LaTeX-friendly, it'd rather be
>   \AtBeginDocument{\renewcommand{\labelitemi}{\(\Diamond\)}}
> but I am disgressing].
> 
> It should be quite easy to change, indeed.

So does that mean there isn't any point in trying to support redefining
bullet shapes on a per-paragraph basis instead of the current
document-scope?  At least not in French documents anyway or is it all due
to babel?

In the docs for "Itemize Bullet Selection" in Extended I gave examples of
how to do per-paragraph changes including the use of the \renewcommand.
You seem to be saying that this wouldn't work in a non-English language
document.

Allan. (ARRae)




Re: Pb with bullet shapes + some questions and/or sugestions

1999-11-17 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes

> "Francois" == Francois Beaubert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Francois> 1) Does anybody try to use the bullet shapes popup with the
Francois> language of the document set to frenchb?

Francois> The popup works fine but I could not force latex to use the
Francois> bullet shapes I have specified in this popup. It seem's that
Francois> the package frenchb override the bullet shapes I have juste
Francois> define in the document layout -> Bullet shapes option. The
Francois> frenchb package use always it's default bullet shapes (
Francois> \normalfont\bfseries{--})

Francois> This work great with the language of the document set to
Francois> default. Any idea?

Yes. The definition of the bullet shape should be done using 
  \AtBeginDocument{\renewcommand\labelitemi[0]{\(\Diamond\)}}
instead of 
  \renewcommand\labelitemi[0]{\(\Diamond\)}

[In fact, to be LaTeX-friendly, it'd rather be
  \AtBeginDocument{\renewcommand{\labelitemi}{\(\Diamond\)}}
but I am disgressing].

It should be quite easy to change, indeed.

Francois> 2) Is their a way to have completion of word typed in the
Francois> document like M- / in emacs?

Nothing like that exists currently.

Francois> 3) A suggestion about spelling: I think that a feature like
Francois> flyspell module in emacs which underline miss-spelled word
Francois> as you type it would be a great think.

It would be nice indeed. 



Pb with bullet shapes + some questions and/or sugestions

1999-11-17 Thread Francois Beaubert

1) Does anybody try to use the bullet shapes popup with the language of
the
document set to frenchb?

The popup works fine but I could not force latex to use the bullet
shapes I have specified in this popup.
It seem's that the package frenchb override the bullet shapes I have
juste define in the document layout -> Bullet shapes option.
The frenchb package use always it's default bullet shapes (
\normalfont\bfseries{--})

This work great with the language of the document set to default.
Any idea?

2) Is their a way to have completion of word typed in the document like
M- / in emacs?

3) A suggestion about spelling: I think that a feature like flyspell
module in emacs which
 underline miss-spelled word as you type it would be a great think.

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Re: Pb with bullet shapes + some questions and/or sugestions

1999-01-16 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes

> "Allan" == Allan Rae <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Allan> So does that mean there isn't any point in trying to support
Allan> redefining bullet shapes on a per-paragraph basis instead of
Allan> the current document-scope? At least not in French documents
Allan> anyway or is it all due to babel?

Allan> In the docs for "Itemize Bullet Selection" in Extended I gave
Allan> examples of how to do per-paragraph changes including the use
Allan> of the \renewcommand. You seem to be saying that this wouldn't
Allan> work in a non-English language document.

No, it is just that this ^%#&^%$ french style redefines the items when
\begin{document} is encoutered [*]. This means that labels in the
preamble get overwritten. So anything which is done _after_
\begin{document} should be safe.

JMarc

[*] No, this not is not to say that I forgot an 'n' in "encountered".
It is rather to explain that in french, we use -- rather than \bullet
to begin an enumeration.