Re: RCS on Windows

2007-03-06 Thread Michael Wojcik

Alan Isaac wrote:
On Sat, 24 Feb 2007, Michael Wojcik wrote: 
I'd avoid GNU RCS for Windows.  I've seen it corrupt 
working files numerous times.


Perhaps relevant:
http://www.uvm.edu/~ashawley/rcs/faq.txt


No, these are actual bugs in either RCS or GNU diff.  I've worked with 
RCS since the late 1980s; I ported it to DOS, OS/2, and OS/400.  I'm 
very familiar with how it works.


--
Michael Wojcik



Re: RCS on Windows

2007-03-06 Thread Michael Wojcik

Alan Isaac wrote:
On Sat, 24 Feb 2007, Michael Wojcik wrote: 
I'd avoid GNU RCS for Windows.  I've seen it corrupt 
working files numerous times.


Perhaps relevant:
http://www.uvm.edu/~ashawley/rcs/faq.txt


No, these are actual bugs in either RCS or GNU diff.  I've worked with 
RCS since the late 1980s; I ported it to DOS, OS/2, and OS/400.  I'm 
very familiar with how it works.


--
Michael Wojcik



Re: RCS on Windows

2007-03-06 Thread Michael Wojcik

Alan Isaac wrote:
On Sat, 24 Feb 2007, Michael Wojcik wrote: 
I'd avoid GNU RCS for Windows.  I've seen it corrupt 
working files numerous times.


Perhaps relevant:
http://www.uvm.edu/~ashawley/rcs/faq.txt


No, these are actual bugs in either RCS or GNU diff.  I've worked with 
RCS since the late 1980s; I ported it to DOS, OS/2, and OS/400.  I'm 
very familiar with how it works.


--
Michael Wojcik



Re: RCS on Windows

2007-03-05 Thread Alan Isaac
On Sat, 24 Feb 2007, Michael Wojcik wrote: 
 I'd avoid GNU RCS for Windows.  I've seen it corrupt 
 working files numerous times.

Perhaps relevant:
http://www.uvm.edu/~ashawley/rcs/faq.txt

Cheers,
Alan Isaac






Re: RCS on Windows

2007-03-05 Thread Alan Isaac
On Sat, 24 Feb 2007, Michael Wojcik wrote: 
 I'd avoid GNU RCS for Windows.  I've seen it corrupt 
 working files numerous times.

Perhaps relevant:
http://www.uvm.edu/~ashawley/rcs/faq.txt

Cheers,
Alan Isaac






Re: RCS on Windows

2007-03-05 Thread Alan Isaac
On Sat, 24 Feb 2007, Michael Wojcik wrote: 
> I'd avoid GNU RCS for Windows.  I've seen it corrupt 
> working files numerous times.

Perhaps relevant:
http://www.uvm.edu/~ashawley/rcs/faq.txt

Cheers,
Alan Isaac






Re: RCS on Windows

2007-02-25 Thread Michael Wojcik

André Bonhôte wrote:


I am in a process of convincing my team mates to use LyX for 
documentation. The guys all use windows. I'm not really a windows man, 
thus the question: What RCS do you recommend? I have downloaded the zip 
file from the gnu site and copied all the bins to C:\windows, but LyX 
didn't see the binaries. Next, I have added this dir to the path in the 
prefs, but still now luck.


I'd avoid GNU RCS for Windows.  I've seen it corrupt working files
numerous times.  I don't think I've ever seen it damage RCS files, so a
fresh checkout generally got me a good working file, but I don't trust
it.  (I can't imagine what the problem is.  I ported RCS - Tichy's
original version, not GNU, which IIRC didn't even exist at the time to
16-bit Windows myself years ago - along with DOS, OS/2, and OS/400 - and
never had any problems with file corruption.)

I use CVSNT for versioning my LyX files.  I haven't bothered trying to
drive it from LyX - I just run it manually, from the command line, the
way Computers Are Supposed To Be Used :-).

But CVSNT does include a co.exe, rcsdiff.exe, etc.  It doesn't seem
to have a bare ci alias, but a short Windows .cmd file that did a cvs
update followed by a cvs commit ought to do the job.  (Obviously, the
user would have to manually handle any conflicts that couldn't be
resolved automatically.)  So I'd expect it would be possible to get LyX
to work with CVSNT, if you want to use the file-versioning features
built into LyX.

--
Michael Wojcik






Re: RCS on Windows

2007-02-25 Thread Abdelrazak Younes

André Bonhôte wrote:

Hi

First I want to thank Uwe for pointing out the embedded objects doc. 
Cool, really!


I am in a process of convincing my team mates to use LyX for 
documentation. The guys all use windows. I'm not really a windows man, 
thus the question: What RCS do you recommend? I have downloaded the zip 
file from the gnu site and copied all the bins to C:\windows, but LyX 
didn't see the binaries. Next, I have added this dir to the path in the 
prefs, but still now luck.


IMHO, there is not much advantage to have RCS capability integrated into 
LyX. If I were you I would just use SVN and use TortoiseSVN for windows 
people. TortoiseSVN is integrated with the shell, is very easy to use 
and works really well.


Abdel.



Re: RCS on Windows

2007-02-25 Thread christian . ridderstrom

On Sun, 25 Feb 2007, Abdelrazak Younes wrote:


 I am in a process of convincing my team mates to use LyX for
 documentation. The guys all use windows. I'm not really a windows man,
 thus the question: What RCS do you recommend? I have downloaded the
 zip file from the gnu site and copied all the bins to C:\windows, but
 LyX didn't see the binaries. Next, I have added this dir to the path
 in the prefs, but still now luck.


IMHO, there is not much advantage to have RCS capability integrated into 
LyX. If I were you I would just use SVN and use TortoiseSVN for windows 
people. TortoiseSVN is integrated with the shell, is very easy to use 
and works really well.


I agree with Abdel - TortoiseSVN works well, and once it's set up it's 
really easy to use.


/Christian

--
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr

Re: RCS on Windows

2007-02-25 Thread Michael Wojcik

André Bonhôte wrote:


I am in a process of convincing my team mates to use LyX for 
documentation. The guys all use windows. I'm not really a windows man, 
thus the question: What RCS do you recommend? I have downloaded the zip 
file from the gnu site and copied all the bins to C:\windows, but LyX 
didn't see the binaries. Next, I have added this dir to the path in the 
prefs, but still now luck.


I'd avoid GNU RCS for Windows.  I've seen it corrupt working files
numerous times.  I don't think I've ever seen it damage RCS files, so a
fresh checkout generally got me a good working file, but I don't trust
it.  (I can't imagine what the problem is.  I ported RCS - Tichy's
original version, not GNU, which IIRC didn't even exist at the time to
16-bit Windows myself years ago - along with DOS, OS/2, and OS/400 - and
never had any problems with file corruption.)

I use CVSNT for versioning my LyX files.  I haven't bothered trying to
drive it from LyX - I just run it manually, from the command line, the
way Computers Are Supposed To Be Used :-).

But CVSNT does include a co.exe, rcsdiff.exe, etc.  It doesn't seem
to have a bare ci alias, but a short Windows .cmd file that did a cvs
update followed by a cvs commit ought to do the job.  (Obviously, the
user would have to manually handle any conflicts that couldn't be
resolved automatically.)  So I'd expect it would be possible to get LyX
to work with CVSNT, if you want to use the file-versioning features
built into LyX.

--
Michael Wojcik






Re: RCS on Windows

2007-02-25 Thread Abdelrazak Younes

André Bonhôte wrote:

Hi

First I want to thank Uwe for pointing out the embedded objects doc. 
Cool, really!


I am in a process of convincing my team mates to use LyX for 
documentation. The guys all use windows. I'm not really a windows man, 
thus the question: What RCS do you recommend? I have downloaded the zip 
file from the gnu site and copied all the bins to C:\windows, but LyX 
didn't see the binaries. Next, I have added this dir to the path in the 
prefs, but still now luck.


IMHO, there is not much advantage to have RCS capability integrated into 
LyX. If I were you I would just use SVN and use TortoiseSVN for windows 
people. TortoiseSVN is integrated with the shell, is very easy to use 
and works really well.


Abdel.



Re: RCS on Windows

2007-02-25 Thread christian . ridderstrom

On Sun, 25 Feb 2007, Abdelrazak Younes wrote:


 I am in a process of convincing my team mates to use LyX for
 documentation. The guys all use windows. I'm not really a windows man,
 thus the question: What RCS do you recommend? I have downloaded the
 zip file from the gnu site and copied all the bins to C:\windows, but
 LyX didn't see the binaries. Next, I have added this dir to the path
 in the prefs, but still now luck.


IMHO, there is not much advantage to have RCS capability integrated into 
LyX. If I were you I would just use SVN and use TortoiseSVN for windows 
people. TortoiseSVN is integrated with the shell, is very easy to use 
and works really well.


I agree with Abdel - TortoiseSVN works well, and once it's set up it's 
really easy to use.


/Christian

--
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr

Re: RCS on Windows

2007-02-25 Thread Michael Wojcik

André Bonhôte wrote:


I am in a process of convincing my team mates to use LyX for 
documentation. The guys all use windows. I'm not really a windows man, 
thus the question: What RCS do you recommend? I have downloaded the zip 
file from the gnu site and copied all the bins to C:\windows, but LyX 
didn't see the binaries. Next, I have added this dir to the path in the 
prefs, but still now luck.


I'd avoid GNU RCS for Windows.  I've seen it corrupt working files
numerous times.  I don't think I've ever seen it damage RCS files, so a
fresh checkout generally got me a good working file, but I don't trust
it.  (I can't imagine what the problem is.  I ported RCS - Tichy's
original version, not GNU, which IIRC didn't even exist at the time to
16-bit Windows myself years ago - along with DOS, OS/2, and OS/400 - and
never had any problems with file corruption.)

I use CVSNT for versioning my LyX files.  I haven't bothered trying to
drive it from LyX - I just run it manually, from the command line, the
way Computers Are Supposed To Be Used :-).

But CVSNT does include a "co.exe", "rcsdiff.exe", etc.  It doesn't seem
to have a bare ci alias, but a short Windows .cmd file that did a cvs
update followed by a cvs commit ought to do the job.  (Obviously, the
user would have to manually handle any conflicts that couldn't be
resolved automatically.)  So I'd expect it would be possible to get LyX
to work with CVSNT, if you want to use the file-versioning features
built into LyX.

--
Michael Wojcik






Re: RCS on Windows

2007-02-25 Thread Abdelrazak Younes

André Bonhôte wrote:

Hi

First I want to thank Uwe for pointing out the embedded objects doc. 
Cool, really!


I am in a process of convincing my team mates to use LyX for 
documentation. The guys all use windows. I'm not really a windows man, 
thus the question: What RCS do you recommend? I have downloaded the zip 
file from the gnu site and copied all the bins to C:\windows, but LyX 
didn't see the binaries. Next, I have added this dir to the path in the 
prefs, but still now luck.


IMHO, there is not much advantage to have RCS capability integrated into 
LyX. If I were you I would just use SVN and use TortoiseSVN for windows 
people. TortoiseSVN is integrated with the shell, is very easy to use 
and works really well.


Abdel.



Re: RCS on Windows

2007-02-25 Thread christian . ridderstrom

On Sun, 25 Feb 2007, Abdelrazak Younes wrote:


 I am in a process of convincing my team mates to use LyX for
 documentation. The guys all use windows. I'm not really a windows man,
 thus the question: What RCS do you recommend? I have downloaded the
 zip file from the gnu site and copied all the bins to C:\windows, but
 LyX didn't see the binaries. Next, I have added this dir to the path
 in the prefs, but still now luck.


IMHO, there is not much advantage to have RCS capability integrated into 
LyX. If I were you I would just use SVN and use TortoiseSVN for windows 
people. TortoiseSVN is integrated with the shell, is very easy to use 
and works really well.


I agree with Abdel - TortoiseSVN works well, and once it's set up it's 
really easy to use.


/Christian

--
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr

RCS on Windows

2007-02-21 Thread André Bonhôte

Hi

First I want to thank Uwe for pointing out the embedded objects doc.  
Cool, really!


I am in a process of convincing my team mates to use LyX for  
documentation. The guys all use windows. I'm not really a windows  
man, thus the question: What RCS do you recommend? I have downloaded  
the zip file from the gnu site and copied all the bins to C:\windows,  
but LyX didn't see the binaries. Next, I have added this dir to the  
path in the prefs, but still now luck.


FYI: I used lyx-144-2-bundle.exe to install LyX, worked like a charm :-)

TIA

André
André Bonhôte
Systems Engineer
COLT Telecom AG
Mürtschenstrasse 27
CH-8048 Zürich
Switzerland
Tel: +41 (0)58 560 15 01  Internal OneDial: 8-411-0501
Fax: +41 (0)58 560 2501
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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LyX crashes. Windows, 1.4.3 (was: RCS on Windows)

2007-02-21 Thread André Bonhôte

Hi

It's really a pity that LyX/Win doesn't work as good as LyX/Mac ...  
got a crash today, reproducable:


1 - Create a new document
2 - Activate Change Tracking
3 - Write some lines
4 - Accept all changes
5 - Write some more lines
6 - Repeat steps 4  5
7 - Boom.

See the screenshots here: http://flickr.com/photos/rclkrtrzckr/sets/ 
72157594549712498/


(FlickR is dead slow at the moment, please be patient.)

Actually, I stepped back to 1.4.3 from 1.4.4 because the latest  
version crashed when I wanted to go to Document - Settings - LaTeX  
Preamble in one of my existing documents. I didn't track this  
further, just installed 1.4.3 :-/


I am not happy at all with this. I'm in the middle of a LyX Promo  
Tour right now, I have to convince my bosses and team mates. But I  
can't with these crashes. I have promised RCS, because it works on my  
Mac, but it doesn't on Win. That's not really good.


Which one is the most stable version of LyX? Would it make sense to  
go for 1.3.x?


Cheers

André

On 21.02.2007, at 12:19, André Bonhôte wrote:


Hi

First I want to thank Uwe for pointing out the embedded objects  
doc. Cool, really!


I am in a process of convincing my team mates to use LyX for  
documentation. The guys all use windows. I'm not really a windows  
man, thus the question: What RCS do you recommend? I have  
downloaded the zip file from the gnu site and copied all the bins  
to C:\windows, but LyX didn't see the binaries. Next, I have added  
this dir to the path in the prefs, but still now luck.


FYI: I used lyx-144-2-bundle.exe to install LyX, worked like a  
charm :-)


TIA

André
André Bonhôte
Systems Engineer
COLT Telecom AG
Mürtschenstrasse 27
CH-8048 Zürich
Switzerland
Tel: +41 (0)58 560 15 01  Internal OneDial: 8-411-0501
Fax: +41 (0)58 560 2501
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.colt.net

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André Bonhôte
Systems Engineer
COLT Telecom AG
Mürtschenstrasse 27
CH-8048 Zürich
Switzerland
Tel: +41 (0)58 560 15 01  Internal OneDial: 8-411-0501
Fax: +41 (0)58 560 2501
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RCS on Windows

2007-02-21 Thread André Bonhôte

Hi

First I want to thank Uwe for pointing out the embedded objects doc.  
Cool, really!


I am in a process of convincing my team mates to use LyX for  
documentation. The guys all use windows. I'm not really a windows  
man, thus the question: What RCS do you recommend? I have downloaded  
the zip file from the gnu site and copied all the bins to C:\windows,  
but LyX didn't see the binaries. Next, I have added this dir to the  
path in the prefs, but still now luck.


FYI: I used lyx-144-2-bundle.exe to install LyX, worked like a charm :-)

TIA

André
André Bonhôte
Systems Engineer
COLT Telecom AG
Mürtschenstrasse 27
CH-8048 Zürich
Switzerland
Tel: +41 (0)58 560 15 01  Internal OneDial: 8-411-0501
Fax: +41 (0)58 560 2501
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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LyX crashes. Windows, 1.4.3 (was: RCS on Windows)

2007-02-21 Thread André Bonhôte

Hi

It's really a pity that LyX/Win doesn't work as good as LyX/Mac ...  
got a crash today, reproducable:


1 - Create a new document
2 - Activate Change Tracking
3 - Write some lines
4 - Accept all changes
5 - Write some more lines
6 - Repeat steps 4  5
7 - Boom.

See the screenshots here: http://flickr.com/photos/rclkrtrzckr/sets/ 
72157594549712498/


(FlickR is dead slow at the moment, please be patient.)

Actually, I stepped back to 1.4.3 from 1.4.4 because the latest  
version crashed when I wanted to go to Document - Settings - LaTeX  
Preamble in one of my existing documents. I didn't track this  
further, just installed 1.4.3 :-/


I am not happy at all with this. I'm in the middle of a LyX Promo  
Tour right now, I have to convince my bosses and team mates. But I  
can't with these crashes. I have promised RCS, because it works on my  
Mac, but it doesn't on Win. That's not really good.


Which one is the most stable version of LyX? Would it make sense to  
go for 1.3.x?


Cheers

André

On 21.02.2007, at 12:19, André Bonhôte wrote:


Hi

First I want to thank Uwe for pointing out the embedded objects  
doc. Cool, really!


I am in a process of convincing my team mates to use LyX for  
documentation. The guys all use windows. I'm not really a windows  
man, thus the question: What RCS do you recommend? I have  
downloaded the zip file from the gnu site and copied all the bins  
to C:\windows, but LyX didn't see the binaries. Next, I have added  
this dir to the path in the prefs, but still now luck.


FYI: I used lyx-144-2-bundle.exe to install LyX, worked like a  
charm :-)


TIA

André
André Bonhôte
Systems Engineer
COLT Telecom AG
Mürtschenstrasse 27
CH-8048 Zürich
Switzerland
Tel: +41 (0)58 560 15 01  Internal OneDial: 8-411-0501
Fax: +41 (0)58 560 2501
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Systems Engineer
COLT Telecom AG
Mürtschenstrasse 27
CH-8048 Zürich
Switzerland
Tel: +41 (0)58 560 15 01  Internal OneDial: 8-411-0501
Fax: +41 (0)58 560 2501
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RCS on Windows

2007-02-21 Thread André Bonhôte

Hi

First I want to thank Uwe for pointing out the embedded objects doc.  
Cool, really!


I am in a process of convincing my team mates to use LyX for  
documentation. The guys all use windows. I'm not really a windows  
man, thus the question: What RCS do you recommend? I have downloaded  
the zip file from the gnu site and copied all the bins to C:\windows,  
but LyX didn't see the binaries. Next, I have added this dir to the  
path in the prefs, but still now luck.


FYI: I used lyx-144-2-bundle.exe to install LyX, worked like a charm :-)

TIA

André
André Bonhôte
Systems Engineer
COLT Telecom AG
Mürtschenstrasse 27
CH-8048 Zürich
Switzerland
Tel: +41 (0)58 560 15 01  Internal OneDial: 8-411-0501
Fax: +41 (0)58 560 2501
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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LyX crashes. Windows, 1.4.3 (was: RCS on Windows)

2007-02-21 Thread André Bonhôte

Hi

It's really a pity that LyX/Win doesn't work as good as LyX/Mac ...  
got a crash today, reproducable:


1 - Create a new document
2 - Activate Change Tracking
3 - Write some lines
4 - Accept all changes
5 - Write some more lines
6 - Repeat steps 4 & 5
7 - Boom.

See the screenshots here: http://flickr.com/photos/rclkrtrzckr/sets/ 
72157594549712498/


(FlickR is dead slow at the moment, please be patient.)

Actually, I stepped back to 1.4.3 from 1.4.4 because the latest  
version crashed when I wanted to go to Document -> Settings -> LaTeX  
Preamble in one of my existing documents. I didn't track this  
further, just installed 1.4.3 :-/


I am not happy at all with this. I'm in the middle of a LyX Promo  
Tour right now, I have to convince my bosses and team mates. But I  
can't with these crashes. I have promised RCS, because it works on my  
Mac, but it doesn't on Win. That's not really good.


Which one is the most stable version of LyX? Would it make sense to  
go for 1.3.x?


Cheers

André

On 21.02.2007, at 12:19, André Bonhôte wrote:


Hi

First I want to thank Uwe for pointing out the embedded objects  
doc. Cool, really!


I am in a process of convincing my team mates to use LyX for  
documentation. The guys all use windows. I'm not really a windows  
man, thus the question: What RCS do you recommend? I have  
downloaded the zip file from the gnu site and copied all the bins  
to C:\windows, but LyX didn't see the binaries. Next, I have added  
this dir to the path in the prefs, but still now luck.


FYI: I used lyx-144-2-bundle.exe to install LyX, worked like a  
charm :-)


TIA

André
André Bonhôte
Systems Engineer
COLT Telecom AG
Mürtschenstrasse 27
CH-8048 Zürich
Switzerland
Tel: +41 (0)58 560 15 01  Internal OneDial: 8-411-0501
Fax: +41 (0)58 560 2501
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.colt.net

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Systems Engineer
COLT Telecom AG
Mürtschenstrasse 27
CH-8048 Zürich
Switzerland
Tel: +41 (0)58 560 15 01  Internal OneDial: 8-411-0501
Fax: +41 (0)58 560 2501
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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