Re: presentation (beamer) and bibtex inputenc

[Michael Bach]

On 8/23/2012 11:06 PM, Les Denham wrote:

I have had similar problems with beamer and BibTeX in English when a
name in the bibliography had an accented character (é I think).

I did figure out a workaround, but I don't remember exactly how. I
think it involved putting the offending reference in a separate .bib
file, but I don't remember the details and no longer have the files.



Thanks for your comment Les. I solved this by using Document  Settings 
 Language  Encoding  Other: Unicode (utf8).


Turns out that I also did this in the article document class file I 
mentioned in my OP because of other Unicode symbols, but forgot about 
that setting.


I am curious: Could be my setup is borked up, but here I thought 
specifying German as the document language takes care of inputenc in 
respect to German diacritics and special characters such as the ß for 
the bibliography.


Michael

Re: presentation (beamer) and bibtex inputenc

[Michael Bach]

On 8/23/2012 11:06 PM, Les Denham wrote:

I have had similar problems with beamer and BibTeX in English when a
name in the bibliography had an accented character (é I think).

I did figure out a workaround, but I don't remember exactly how. I
think it involved putting the offending reference in a separate .bib
file, but I don't remember the details and no longer have the files.



Thanks for your comment Les. I solved this by using Document  Settings 
 Language  Encoding  Other: Unicode (utf8).


Turns out that I also did this in the article document class file I 
mentioned in my OP because of other Unicode symbols, but forgot about 
that setting.


I am curious: Could be my setup is borked up, but here I thought 
specifying German as the document language takes care of inputenc in 
respect to German diacritics and special characters such as the ß for 
the bibliography.


Michael

Re: presentation (beamer) and bibtex inputenc

[Michael Bach]

On 8/23/2012 11:06 PM, Les Denham wrote:

I have had similar problems with beamer and BibTeX in English when a
name in the bibliography had an accented character (é I think).

I did figure out a workaround, but I don't remember exactly how. I
think it involved putting the offending reference in a separate .bib
file, but I don't remember the details and no longer have the files.



Thanks for your comment Les. I solved this by using Document > Settings 
> Language > Encoding > Other: Unicode (utf8).


Turns out that I also did this in the article document class file I 
mentioned in my OP because of other Unicode symbols, but forgot about 
that setting.


I am curious: Could be my setup is borked up, but here I thought 
specifying "German" as the document language takes care of inputenc in 
respect to German diacritics and special characters such as the "ß" for 
the bibliography.


Michael

Re: presentation (beamer) and bibtex inputenc

[Les Denham]

On Thu, 23 Aug 2012 21:29:24 +0200
Michael Bach pha...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear LyX Users and Developers,
 
 I am using the presentation (beamer) document class with the german 
 option. I have a BibTeX bibliography that I inserted via the Insert  
 ... mechanism.
 
 Now when I try to compile the file, I get inputenc errors. It stems
 from the usage of the german ß character in the title of the
 reference. From the full log:
 
 ! Package inputenc Error: Keyboard character used is undefined
 (inputenc)in inputencoding `latin9'.
 
 Now I am wondering why this does not work in the presentation
 (beamer) document class when it does work in another file with the
 article document class.
 
 Any ideas?
 
 Michael
 

Michael,

I have had similar problems with beamer and BibTeX in English when a
name in the bibliography had an accented character (é I think).

I did figure out a workaround, but I don't remember exactly how. I
think it involved putting the offending reference in a separate .bib
file, but I don't remember the details and no longer have the files.

Les

Re: presentation (beamer) and bibtex inputenc

[Les Denham]

On Thu, 23 Aug 2012 21:29:24 +0200
Michael Bach pha...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear LyX Users and Developers,
 
 I am using the presentation (beamer) document class with the german 
 option. I have a BibTeX bibliography that I inserted via the Insert  
 ... mechanism.
 
 Now when I try to compile the file, I get inputenc errors. It stems
 from the usage of the german ß character in the title of the
 reference. From the full log:
 
 ! Package inputenc Error: Keyboard character used is undefined
 (inputenc)in inputencoding `latin9'.
 
 Now I am wondering why this does not work in the presentation
 (beamer) document class when it does work in another file with the
 article document class.
 
 Any ideas?
 
 Michael
 

Michael,

I have had similar problems with beamer and BibTeX in English when a
name in the bibliography had an accented character (é I think).

I did figure out a workaround, but I don't remember exactly how. I
think it involved putting the offending reference in a separate .bib
file, but I don't remember the details and no longer have the files.

Les

Re: presentation (beamer) and bibtex inputenc

[Les Denham]

On Thu, 23 Aug 2012 21:29:24 +0200
Michael Bach  wrote:

> Dear LyX Users and Developers,
> 
> I am using the presentation (beamer) document class with the "german" 
> option. I have a BibTeX bibliography that I inserted via the Insert > 
> ... mechanism.
> 
> Now when I try to compile the file, I get inputenc errors. It stems
> from the usage of the german "ß" character in the title of the
> reference. From the full log:
> 
> ! Package inputenc Error: Keyboard character used is undefined
> (inputenc)in inputencoding `latin9'.
> 
> Now I am wondering why this does not work in the presentation
> (beamer) document class when it does work in another file with the
> article document class.
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> Michael
> 

Michael,

I have had similar problems with beamer and BibTeX in English when a
name in the bibliography had an accented character (é I think).

I did figure out a workaround, but I don't remember exactly how. I
think it involved putting the offending reference in a separate .bib
file, but I don't remember the details and no longer have the files.

Les

Re: Presentation tip: was LyX as a presentation tool

[Liviu Andronic]

On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 9:15 PM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote:
 I can't help you with your LyX questions because I know little about
 the LyX authoring environment, but I can give you one tip that's helped
 me a heck of a lot.

 When presenting, I use one of those wireless optical mice they sell for
 between $10 and $20. I make sure the mouse is:

 1) 1000dpi and
 2) Can be used up to 30 meters away.
 3) Has a scroll wheel between the left and right mouse buttons

I was also hesitating to take a high-resolution mouse, but I think
I'll go for a laser pointer. I'm only a bit lost on which brand and
model to buy. Anyone care to share their experience?


 Then I can use the mouse normally while I'm at the computer, but can
 walk around the audience using the left and right mouse button to
 advance or go back a slide (I use Evince with a PDF presentation, so
 this works). Also, I can use the scroll wheel to quickly advance or go
 backward.

Personally I use Impressive [1][2] (instead of Evince or any other PDF
reader) to display my LyX-created Beamer PDFs. Impressive is, well,
impressive. Other than benefiting from left/right mouse clicks to go
to next/prev slide, you get many additional features: Page
transitions, Overview screen, Highlight boxes, Spotlight effect,
zooming, a time tracker, etc. (To some these would be useless
eye-candy, to others genuinely useful features. It may well depend on
the specific presentation, audience and setting.)

There is also an open ticket [3] that, when fixed (patch available),
would improve the process: LyX - Beamer - Impressive.

Regards
Liviu

[1] http://impressive.sourceforge.net/
[2] http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/Presentations#toc4
[3] http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/8018

Re: Presentation tip: was LyX as a presentation tool

[Neal Becker]

Thanks for the tip about Impressive!  That is pretty Impressive.  
Finding/installing deps on fedora 16 was a little bit of a pain (mostly due to 
differing package names on different systems)

Re: Presentation tip: was LyX as a presentation tool

[Liviu Andronic]

On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 2:59 PM, Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks for the tip about Impressive!  That is pretty Impressive.

Most welcome. :)


 Finding/installing deps on fedora 16 was a little bit of a pain (mostly due to
 differing package names on different systems)

As for Ubuntu, I maintain a PPA here [1].
Liviu

[1] https://launchpad.net/~landronimirc/+archive/impressive


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Re: Presentation tip: was LyX as a presentation tool

[Liviu Andronic]

On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 9:15 PM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote:
 I can't help you with your LyX questions because I know little about
 the LyX authoring environment, but I can give you one tip that's helped
 me a heck of a lot.

 When presenting, I use one of those wireless optical mice they sell for
 between $10 and $20. I make sure the mouse is:

 1) 1000dpi and
 2) Can be used up to 30 meters away.
 3) Has a scroll wheel between the left and right mouse buttons

I was also hesitating to take a high-resolution mouse, but I think
I'll go for a laser pointer. I'm only a bit lost on which brand and
model to buy. Anyone care to share their experience?


 Then I can use the mouse normally while I'm at the computer, but can
 walk around the audience using the left and right mouse button to
 advance or go back a slide (I use Evince with a PDF presentation, so
 this works). Also, I can use the scroll wheel to quickly advance or go
 backward.

Personally I use Impressive [1][2] (instead of Evince or any other PDF
reader) to display my LyX-created Beamer PDFs. Impressive is, well,
impressive. Other than benefiting from left/right mouse clicks to go
to next/prev slide, you get many additional features: Page
transitions, Overview screen, Highlight boxes, Spotlight effect,
zooming, a time tracker, etc. (To some these would be useless
eye-candy, to others genuinely useful features. It may well depend on
the specific presentation, audience and setting.)

There is also an open ticket [3] that, when fixed (patch available),
would improve the process: LyX - Beamer - Impressive.

Regards
Liviu

[1] http://impressive.sourceforge.net/
[2] http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/Presentations#toc4
[3] http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/8018

Re: Presentation tip: was LyX as a presentation tool

[Neal Becker]

Thanks for the tip about Impressive!  That is pretty Impressive.  
Finding/installing deps on fedora 16 was a little bit of a pain (mostly due to 
differing package names on different systems)

Re: Presentation tip: was LyX as a presentation tool

[Liviu Andronic]

On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 2:59 PM, Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks for the tip about Impressive!  That is pretty Impressive.

Most welcome. :)


 Finding/installing deps on fedora 16 was a little bit of a pain (mostly due to
 differing package names on different systems)

As for Ubuntu, I maintain a PPA here [1].
Liviu

[1] https://launchpad.net/~landronimirc/+archive/impressive


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Re: Presentation tip: was LyX as a presentation tool

[Liviu Andronic]

On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 9:15 PM, Steve Litt  wrote:
> I can't help you with your LyX questions because I know little about
> the LyX authoring environment, but I can give you one tip that's helped
> me a heck of a lot.
>
> When presenting, I use one of those wireless optical mice they sell for
> between $10 and $20. I make sure the mouse is:
>
> 1) 1000dpi and
> 2) Can be used up to 30 meters away.
> 3) Has a scroll wheel between the left and right mouse buttons
>
I was also hesitating to take a high-resolution mouse, but I think
I'll go for a laser pointer. I'm only a bit lost on which brand and
model to buy. Anyone care to share their experience?


> Then I can use the mouse normally while I'm at the computer, but can
> walk around the audience using the left and right mouse button to
> advance or go back a slide (I use Evince with a PDF presentation, so
> this works). Also, I can use the scroll wheel to quickly advance or go
> backward.
>
Personally I use Impressive [1][2] (instead of Evince or any other PDF
reader) to display my LyX-created Beamer PDFs. Impressive is, well,
impressive. Other than benefiting from left/right mouse clicks to go
to next/prev slide, you get many additional features: Page
transitions, Overview screen, Highlight boxes, Spotlight effect,
zooming, a time tracker, etc. (To some these would be useless
eye-candy, to others genuinely useful features. It may well depend on
the specific presentation, audience and setting.)

There is also an open ticket [3] that, when fixed (patch available),
would improve the process: LyX -> Beamer -> Impressive.

Regards
Liviu

[1] http://impressive.sourceforge.net/
[2] http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/Presentations#toc4
[3] http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/8018

Re: Presentation tip: was LyX as a presentation tool

[Neal Becker]

Thanks for the tip about Impressive!  That is pretty Impressive.  
Finding/installing deps on fedora 16 was a little bit of a pain (mostly due to 
differing package names on different systems)

Re: Presentation tip: was LyX as a presentation tool

[Liviu Andronic]

On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 2:59 PM, Neal Becker  wrote:
> Thanks for the tip about Impressive!  That is pretty Impressive.
>
Most welcome. :)


> Finding/installing deps on fedora 16 was a little bit of a pain (mostly due to
> differing package names on different systems)
>
As for Ubuntu, I maintain a PPA here [1].
Liviu

[1] https://launchpad.net/~landronimirc/+archive/impressive


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Re: Presentation with beamer with PDF-Inside

[Liviu Andronic]

On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 2:07 PM, Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yes. At any point you want to include a PDF page as external material,
 after the last frame insert
 \lyxframeend{}
 \setbeamertemplate{background canvas}{}

 as ERT, or use the environment 'EndFrame' instead of the
 \lyxframeend{}. Then include as many Insert  File  Material  PDF as
 you wish. When you're done with the PDF pages, insert 'BeginFrame' as
 usual. If your PDF pages are not scaled up as you were expecting, then
 look into the 'pdfpages' docs and specifically the options for
 '\includepdf': you can specify these by clicking on the PDF page and
 going to the 'LaTeX and LyX options'.

Oh, and make absolutely sure---and this is a nasty pitfall since there
is no obvious reason for this happening---that you keep your 'PDF
page' in a Standard environment and default justified paragraph. If
you change the justification to 'center' then expect stray blank
pages.

Regards
Liviu


 It may be worth documenting the above in EmbeddedObjects.lyx section
 7.1. Or clone the beamer.lyx template and explain how PDF pages are
 inserted.

 Regards
 Liviu


 ciao

 uwe



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Re: Presentation with beamer with PDF-Inside

[Liviu Andronic]

On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 2:07 PM, Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yes. At any point you want to include a PDF page as external material,
 after the last frame insert
 \lyxframeend{}
 \setbeamertemplate{background canvas}{}

 as ERT, or use the environment 'EndFrame' instead of the
 \lyxframeend{}. Then include as many Insert  File  Material  PDF as
 you wish. When you're done with the PDF pages, insert 'BeginFrame' as
 usual. If your PDF pages are not scaled up as you were expecting, then
 look into the 'pdfpages' docs and specifically the options for
 '\includepdf': you can specify these by clicking on the PDF page and
 going to the 'LaTeX and LyX options'.

Oh, and make absolutely sure---and this is a nasty pitfall since there
is no obvious reason for this happening---that you keep your 'PDF
page' in a Standard environment and default justified paragraph. If
you change the justification to 'center' then expect stray blank
pages.

Regards
Liviu


 It may be worth documenting the above in EmbeddedObjects.lyx section
 7.1. Or clone the beamer.lyx template and explain how PDF pages are
 inserted.

 Regards
 Liviu


 ciao

 uwe



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Re: Presentation with beamer with PDF-Inside

[Liviu Andronic]

On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 2:07 PM, Liviu Andronic  wrote:
> Yes. At any point you want to include a PDF page as external material,
> after the last frame insert
> \lyxframeend{}
> \setbeamertemplate{background canvas}{}
>
> as ERT, or use the environment 'EndFrame' instead of the
> \lyxframeend{}. Then include as many Insert > File > Material > PDF as
> you wish. When you're done with the PDF pages, insert 'BeginFrame' as
> usual. If your PDF pages are not scaled up as you were expecting, then
> look into the 'pdfpages' docs and specifically the options for
> '\includepdf': you can specify these by clicking on the PDF page and
> going to the 'LaTeX and LyX options'.
>
Oh, and make absolutely sure---and this is a nasty pitfall since there
is no obvious reason for this happening---that you keep your 'PDF
page' in a Standard environment and default justified paragraph. If
you change the justification to 'center' then expect stray blank
pages.

Regards
Liviu


> It may be worth documenting the above in EmbeddedObjects.lyx section
> 7.1. Or clone the beamer.lyx template and explain how PDF pages are
> inserted.
>
> Regards
> Liviu
>
>
>> ciao
>>
>> uwe
>
>
>
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Re: Presentation with beamer with PDF-Inside

[Murat Yildizoglu]

 I do not know if the pdfpages package could help you. I have heard about
 it in this list, but never used it myself. Maybe you should check on CTAN:

 ftp://ftp.dante.de/pub/tex/macros/latex/contrib/pdfpages/pdfpages.pdf

 Murat




 2011/11/6 Uwe Ade uwe@gmx.de

 Hello

 for my lecture I us persentation which i have made with Lyx and Beamer.
 The Students get a copy of the Beamer Presentation. They don´t like a
 beamer-articel-Version of the Slides.

 To put some addional Informations in the Presentations i would like
 integrate some PDF Dokuments in the way

 Beamer-slide
 Beamer- slide
 pdf
 pdf
 pdf
 Beamer-slide
 Beamer-slide

 Is this possible with Beamer and Lyx?

 ciao

 uwe




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 GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
 Avenue Léon Duguit
 33608 Pessac cedex
 France

 yi...@u-bordeaux4.fr

 http://yildizoglu.info

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GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
Avenue Léon Duguit
33608 Pessac cedex
France

yi...@u-bordeaux4.fr

http://yildizoglu.info

http://www.twitter.com/yildizoglu

Re: Presentation with beamer with PDF-Inside

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Murat Yildizoglu wrote:
  I do not know if the pdfpages package could help you. I have heard about
  it in this list, but never used it myself. Maybe you should check on
  CTAN:
  
  ftp://ftp.dante.de/pub/tex/macros/latex/contrib/pdfpages/pdfpages.pdf
  
  Murat

Or maybe pgfpages (part of the pgf package by the beamer author), where you 
can put several slides on a (e.g. A4) paper; I suppose this makes it easier to 
include other (e.g. A4-sized) documents.

See the pgfmanual (sec. 58) for detals.

Jürgen

Re: Presentation with beamer with PDF-Inside

[Liviu Andronic]

On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 11:58 AM, Uwe Ade uwe@gmx.de wrote:
 Hello

 for my lecture I us persentation which i have made with Lyx and Beamer. The 
 Students get a copy of the Beamer Presentation. They don´t like a 
 beamer-articel-Version of the Slides.

 To put some addional Informations in the Presentations i would like integrate 
 some PDF Dokuments in the way

 Beamer-slide
 Beamer- slide
 pdf
 pdf
 pdf
 Beamer-slide
 Beamer-slide

 Is this possible with Beamer and Lyx?

Yes. At any point you want to include a PDF page as external material,
after the last frame insert
\lyxframeend{}
\setbeamertemplate{background canvas}{}

as ERT, or use the environment 'EndFrame' instead of the
\lyxframeend{}. Then include as many Insert  File  Material  PDF as
you wish. When you're done with the PDF pages, insert 'BeginFrame' as
usual. If your PDF pages are not scaled up as you were expecting, then
look into the 'pdfpages' docs and specifically the options for
'\includepdf': you can specify these by clicking on the PDF page and
going to the 'LaTeX and LyX options'.

It may be worth documenting the above in EmbeddedObjects.lyx section
7.1. Or clone the beamer.lyx template and explain how PDF pages are
inserted.

Regards
Liviu


 ciao

 uwe



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Re: Presentation with beamer with PDF-Inside

[Murat Yildizoglu]

 I do not know if the pdfpages package could help you. I have heard about
 it in this list, but never used it myself. Maybe you should check on CTAN:

 ftp://ftp.dante.de/pub/tex/macros/latex/contrib/pdfpages/pdfpages.pdf

 Murat




 2011/11/6 Uwe Ade uwe@gmx.de

 Hello

 for my lecture I us persentation which i have made with Lyx and Beamer.
 The Students get a copy of the Beamer Presentation. They don´t like a
 beamer-articel-Version of the Slides.

 To put some addional Informations in the Presentations i would like
 integrate some PDF Dokuments in the way

 Beamer-slide
 Beamer- slide
 pdf
 pdf
 pdf
 Beamer-slide
 Beamer-slide

 Is this possible with Beamer and Lyx?

 ciao

 uwe




 --
 Prof. Murat Yildizoglu

 Université Montesquieu Bordeaux IV
 GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
 Avenue Léon Duguit
 33608 Pessac cedex
 France

 yi...@u-bordeaux4.fr

 http://yildizoglu.info

 http://www.twitter.com/yildizoglu




-- 
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Université Montesquieu Bordeaux IV
GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
Avenue Léon Duguit
33608 Pessac cedex
France

yi...@u-bordeaux4.fr

http://yildizoglu.info

http://www.twitter.com/yildizoglu

Re: Presentation with beamer with PDF-Inside

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Murat Yildizoglu wrote:
  I do not know if the pdfpages package could help you. I have heard about
  it in this list, but never used it myself. Maybe you should check on
  CTAN:
  
  ftp://ftp.dante.de/pub/tex/macros/latex/contrib/pdfpages/pdfpages.pdf
  
  Murat

Or maybe pgfpages (part of the pgf package by the beamer author), where you 
can put several slides on a (e.g. A4) paper; I suppose this makes it easier to 
include other (e.g. A4-sized) documents.

See the pgfmanual (sec. 58) for detals.

Jürgen

Re: Presentation with beamer with PDF-Inside

[Liviu Andronic]

On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 11:58 AM, Uwe Ade uwe@gmx.de wrote:
 Hello

 for my lecture I us persentation which i have made with Lyx and Beamer. The 
 Students get a copy of the Beamer Presentation. They don´t like a 
 beamer-articel-Version of the Slides.

 To put some addional Informations in the Presentations i would like integrate 
 some PDF Dokuments in the way

 Beamer-slide
 Beamer- slide
 pdf
 pdf
 pdf
 Beamer-slide
 Beamer-slide

 Is this possible with Beamer and Lyx?

Yes. At any point you want to include a PDF page as external material,
after the last frame insert
\lyxframeend{}
\setbeamertemplate{background canvas}{}

as ERT, or use the environment 'EndFrame' instead of the
\lyxframeend{}. Then include as many Insert  File  Material  PDF as
you wish. When you're done with the PDF pages, insert 'BeginFrame' as
usual. If your PDF pages are not scaled up as you were expecting, then
look into the 'pdfpages' docs and specifically the options for
'\includepdf': you can specify these by clicking on the PDF page and
going to the 'LaTeX and LyX options'.

It may be worth documenting the above in EmbeddedObjects.lyx section
7.1. Or clone the beamer.lyx template and explain how PDF pages are
inserted.

Regards
Liviu


 ciao

 uwe



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Re: Presentation with beamer with PDF-Inside

[Murat Yildizoglu]

> I do not know if the pdfpages package could help you. I have heard about
> it in this list, but never used it myself. Maybe you should check on CTAN:
>
> ftp://ftp.dante.de/pub/tex/macros/latex/contrib/pdfpages/pdfpages.pdf
>
> Murat
>


>
> 2011/11/6 Uwe Ade 
>
>> Hello
>>
>> for my lecture I us persentation which i have made with Lyx and Beamer.
>> The Students get a copy of the Beamer Presentation. They don´t like a
>> beamer-articel-Version of the Slides.
>>
>> To put some addional Informations in the Presentations i would like
>> integrate some PDF Dokuments in the way
>>
>> Beamer-slide
>> Beamer- slide
>> pdf
>> pdf
>> pdf
>> Beamer-slide
>> Beamer-slide
>>
>> Is this possible with Beamer and Lyx?
>>
>> ciao
>>
>> uwe
>
>
>
>
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Re: Presentation with beamer with PDF-Inside

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Murat Yildizoglu wrote:
> > I do not know if the pdfpages package could help you. I have heard about
> > it in this list, but never used it myself. Maybe you should check on
> > CTAN:
> > 
> > ftp://ftp.dante.de/pub/tex/macros/latex/contrib/pdfpages/pdfpages.pdf
> > 
> > Murat

Or maybe pgfpages (part of the pgf package by the beamer author), where you 
can put several slides on a (e.g. A4) paper; I suppose this makes it easier to 
include other (e.g. A4-sized) documents.

See the pgfmanual (sec. 58) for detals.

Jürgen

Re: Presentation with beamer with PDF-Inside

[Liviu Andronic]

On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 11:58 AM, Uwe Ade  wrote:
> Hello
>
> for my lecture I us persentation which i have made with Lyx and Beamer. The 
> Students get a copy of the Beamer Presentation. They don´t like a 
> beamer-articel-Version of the Slides.
>
> To put some addional Informations in the Presentations i would like integrate 
> some PDF Dokuments in the way
>
> Beamer-slide
> Beamer- slide
> pdf
> pdf
> pdf
> Beamer-slide
> Beamer-slide
>
> Is this possible with Beamer and Lyx?
>
Yes. At any point you want to include a PDF page as external material,
after the last frame insert
\lyxframeend{}
\setbeamertemplate{background canvas}{}

as ERT, or use the environment 'EndFrame' instead of the
\lyxframeend{}. Then include as many Insert > File > Material > PDF as
you wish. When you're done with the PDF pages, insert 'BeginFrame' as
usual. If your PDF pages are not scaled up as you were expecting, then
look into the 'pdfpages' docs and specifically the options for
'\includepdf': you can specify these by clicking on the PDF page and
going to the 'LaTeX and LyX options'.

It may be worth documenting the above in EmbeddedObjects.lyx section
7.1. Or clone the beamer.lyx template and explain how PDF pages are
inserted.

Regards
Liviu


> ciao
>
> uwe



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Re: Presentation about LyX ?

[asm23]

Konrad Hofbauer wrote:

Hello,

has sombody ever made a presentation and/or slides _about_ LyX, for a 
LaTeX-savy scientific audience?


I am thinking about giving one, and it would be nice to have slides to 
start from ...


/Konrad

Do you mean that you want to make some slides or presentation to 
introduce Lyx?


I think http://www.lyx.org/VisualTour is a good place to visit.

Re: Presentation about LyX ?

[asm23]

Konrad Hofbauer wrote:

Hello,

has sombody ever made a presentation and/or slides _about_ LyX, for a 
LaTeX-savy scientific audience?


I am thinking about giving one, and it would be nice to have slides to 
start from ...


/Konrad

Do you mean that you want to make some slides or presentation to 
introduce Lyx?


I think http://www.lyx.org/VisualTour is a good place to visit.

Re: Presentation about LyX ?

[asm23]

Konrad Hofbauer wrote:

Hello,

has sombody ever made a presentation and/or slides _about_ LyX, for a 
LaTeX-savy scientific audience?


I am thinking about giving one, and it would be nice to have slides to 
start from ...


/Konrad

Do you mean that you want to make some slides or presentation to 
introduce Lyx?


I think http://www.lyx.org/VisualTour is a good place to visit.

Re: Presentation on LyX/LaTeX

[Günter Milde]

On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 12:09:18PM -0500, Nirmal Govind wrote:
 How about a section Documentation? We could place the link to the 
 tipstricks and the wiki there as well as the lyx docs (as PDF, PS, HTML) 
 plus user created Howtos, Tutorials and Presentations like Nirmal's/
 Bernhard's. I remember some really good howtos appearing on this list from 
 time to time.
 
 I think a more appealing name may be User Resources since 
 Documentation gives the impression of a long document (User's Guide in 
 this case) which describes the details of the software.. however, this 
 is only one of the many resources that are going to be available at this 
 new link...

Actually, I would look for additional Documentation in a Documentation
section.

Clicking on Documentation on a homepage, I usually expect a collection of
Docs and not just one big document.

User Resources, I associate with a place for additional
layouts and keybindings. (Wasn't it something like this, where my
seminar.layout went?) 

Günter

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Re: Presentation on LyX/LaTeX

[Günter Milde]

On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 12:09:18PM -0500, Nirmal Govind wrote:
 How about a section Documentation? We could place the link to the 
 tipstricks and the wiki there as well as the lyx docs (as PDF, PS, HTML) 
 plus user created Howtos, Tutorials and Presentations like Nirmal's/
 Bernhard's. I remember some really good howtos appearing on this list from 
 time to time.
 
 I think a more appealing name may be User Resources since 
 Documentation gives the impression of a long document (User's Guide in 
 this case) which describes the details of the software.. however, this 
 is only one of the many resources that are going to be available at this 
 new link...

Actually, I would look for additional Documentation in a Documentation
section.

Clicking on Documentation on a homepage, I usually expect a collection of
Docs and not just one big document.

User Resources, I associate with a place for additional
layouts and keybindings. (Wasn't it something like this, where my
seminar.layout went?) 

Günter

-- 
G.Milde at web.de

Re: Presentation on LyX/LaTeX

[Günter Milde]

On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 12:09:18PM -0500, Nirmal Govind wrote:
> >How about a section "Documentation"? We could place the link to the 
> >tips and the wiki there as well as the lyx docs (as PDF, PS, HTML) 
> >plus user created Howtos, Tutorials and Presentations like Nirmal's/
> >Bernhard's. I remember some really good howtos appearing on this list from 
> >time to time.
> 
> I think a more appealing name may be "User Resources" since 
> "Documentation" gives the impression of a long document (User's Guide in 
> this case) which describes the details of the software.. however, this 
> is only one of the many resources that are going to be available at this 
> new link...

Actually, I would look for additional Documentation in a "Documentation"
section.

Clicking on "Documentation" on a homepage, I usually expect a collection of
Docs and not just one big document.

"User Resources", I associate with a place for additional
layouts and keybindings. (Wasn't it something like this, where my
seminar.layout went?) 

Günter

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Re: Presentation on LyX/LaTeX

[Andre Poenitz]

On Sun, Nov 16, 2003 at 12:20:56AM +0100, Karsten Heymann wrote:
 On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 11:33:27 +0100
 Juergen Spitzmueller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  M.B. Schiekel wrote:
   Corrections and improvement suggestions are wellcome.
  
  Nice presentation. I think you should check grammar and orthography,
  though. Here are some corrections (there are a few more errors of the
  same kind):
 [...]
  - Bibliographie-Verwaltungs Pakete - Bibliographieverwaltungspakete
 
 Thats german language at its best ...

Of course not. 

Literaturverzeichnisverwaltungspakete would already be better, but I
doubt it is already the Fahnenstangenende ;-)

Andre'

Re: Presentation on LyX/LaTeX

[M.B. Schiekel]

On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 11:33:27 +0100
Juergen Spitzmueller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I think you should check grammar and orthography,though. 
 ...

Andre Poenitz wrote:
 ...but I doubt it is already the Fahnenstangenende ;-)

Fahnenstangenendeupdatemitteilung:
thank you all for your valuable and funny comments. I integrated
Juergens, Nirmals ( Herberts) suggestions, made some minor changes in
the preamble and again uploaded the stuff to:
  http://home.t-online.de/home/mb.schiekel/LyX_PSU_LUG_de.pdf
  http://home.t-online.de/home/mb.schiekel/LyX_PSU_LUG_de.lyx

the updated original english version of Nirmal could be found at:
  http://www.personal.psu.edu/nug107/lyx/LyX_PSU_LUG.pdf
  http://www.personal.psu.edu/nug107/lyx/LyX_PSU_LUG.tar.gz

thank you all  a happy week
bernhard

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Re: Presentation on LyX/LaTeX

[Juergen Spitzmueller]

M.B. Schiekel wrote:
 Fahnenstangenendeupdatemitteilung:

Wunder Bar ;-)

 thank you all for your valuable and funny comments. I integrated
 Juergens, Nirmals ( Herberts) suggestions, made some minor changes in
 the preamble and again uploaded the stuff to:

Very nice. If I am allowed to be nitpicking: 
- p.9: Seiten Nummerierung - Seitennummerierung (or Paginierung)
- p. 31: bibtex Datenbanken - BibTeX-Datenbanken
- p. 39: LaTeX Präsentation - LaTeX-Präsentation

Thanks,
Jürgen.

Re: Presentation on LyX/LaTeX

[Andre Poenitz]

On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 11:23:09AM +0100, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:
 M.B. Schiekel wrote:
  Fahnenstangenendeupdatemitteilung:
 
 Wunder Bar ;-)
 
  thank you all for your valuable and funny comments. I integrated
  Juergens, Nirmals ( Herberts) suggestions, made some minor changes in
  the preamble and again uploaded the stuff to:
 
 Very nice. If I am allowed to be nitpicking: 
 - p.9: Seiten Nummerierung - Seitennummerierung (or Paginierung)
 - p. 31: bibtex Datenbanken - BibTeX-Datenbanken
 - p. 39: LaTeX Präsentation - LaTeX-Präsentation

I wonder whether we should put such things somewhere on the lyx web
site. (And if so, where?)

Andre'

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nor do they deserve, either one. (T. Jefferson or B. Franklin or both...)

Re: Presentation on LyX/LaTeX

[Munzir Taha]

On Sunday 16 November 2003 00:16, Nirmal Govind wrote:

  - Why LyX: Bugs (if any) are fixed pretty soon ...
have a look at http://bugzilla.lyx.org and count the open
bugs ...

 hmm... 1255 (new/assigned/verified/reopened) + 70 (unconfirmed) ... ok,
 I'll change that.. I should probably rephrase it and say Extremely
 responsive developers and users .. ;-)
If some one fixed bug #1404, I will vote with you.
http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1404
Other wise LyX and the people behind it is great but not with Extremely 
responsive developers and users ;)

  and last but not least, well done.

 Thanks..
 nirmal

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Re: Presentation on LyX/LaTeX

[Juergen Spitzmueller]

Andre Poenitz wrote:
 I wonder whether we should put such things somewhere on the lyx web
 site. (And if so, where?)

How about a section Documentation? We could place the link to the 
tipstricks and the wiki there as well as the lyx docs (as PDF, PS, HTML) 
plus user created Howtos, Tutorials and Presentations like Nirmal's/
Bernhard's. I remember some really good howtos appearing on this list from 
time to time.

Jürgen.

Re: Presentation on LyX/LaTeX

[Angus Leeming]

Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:

 Andre Poenitz wrote:
 I wonder whether we should put such things somewhere on the lyx web
 site. (And if so, where?)
 
 How about a section Documentation? We could place the link to the
 tipstricks and the wiki there as well as the lyx docs (as PDF, PS,
 HTML) plus user created Howtos, Tutorials and Presentations like
 Nirmal's/ Bernhard's. I remember some really good howtos appearing
 on this list from time to time.

Isn't this what wiki.lyx.org is for?

-- 
Angus

Re: Presentation on LyX/LaTeX

[Juergen Spitzmueller]

Angus Leeming wrote:
 Isn't this what wiki.lyx.org is for?

I think that the wiki is only one part of the documentation. However, it's not 
very clear where to search ATM. Therefore I'd place the link to the wiki on 
the same page than the link to Herbert's tips and other potential sources of 
information/documentation.

Jürgen.

Re: Presentation on LyX/LaTeX

[Angus Leeming]

Munzir Taha wrote:

 On Sunday 16 November 2003 00:16, Nirmal Govind wrote:
 
  - Why LyX: Bugs (if any) are fixed pretty soon ...
have a look at http://bugzilla.lyx.org and count the open
bugs ...

 hmm... 1255 (new/assigned/verified/reopened) + 70 (unconfirmed) ...
 ok, I'll change that.. I should probably rephrase it and say
 Extremely responsive developers and users .. ;-)
 If some one fixed bug #1404, I will vote with you.
 http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1404
 Other wise LyX and the people behind it is great but not with
 Extremely responsive developers and users ;)

Please try the attached patch. It was made against the lyx 1.3.x cvs 
sources so you may need to apply it 'by hand' to your own copy of 
lyx-1.3.3. I have not tested it, but can confirm that it does compile 
and that it does appear to 'do the right thing'. Ie, there is an 
obvious ordering bug in the source.

Please tell us whether the patch fixes the problem.

Kind regards,

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? munzir.diff
Index: src/paragraph.C
===
RCS file: /usr/local/lyx/cvsroot/lyx-devel/src/paragraph.C,v
retrieving revision 1.235.2.1
diff -u -p -r1.235.2.1 paragraph.C
--- src/paragraph.C	12 Feb 2003 21:01:18 -	1.235.2.1
+++ src/paragraph.C	17 Nov 2003 12:05:37 -
@@ -1154,12 +1154,6 @@ Paragraph * Paragraph::TeXOnePar(Buffer 
 			os  '\n';
 			texrow.newline();
 		}
-
-		if (!params().spacing().isDefault()
-			 (!next_ || !next_-hasSameLayout(this))) {
-			os  params().spacing().writeEnvirEnd()  '\n';
-			texrow.newline();
-		}
 	}
 
 	// we don't need it for the last paragraph!!!
@@ -1182,6 +1176,14 @@ Paragraph * Paragraph::TeXOnePar(Buffer 
 	$$lang,
 	language-babel())
 endl;
+			texrow.newline();
+		}
+	}
+
+	if ((in == 0) || !in-forceDefaultParagraphs(in)) {
+		if (!params().spacing().isDefault()
+			 (!next_ || !next_-hasSameLayout(this))) {
+			os  params().spacing().writeEnvirEnd()  '\n';
 			texrow.newline();
 		}
 	}

Re: Presentation on LyX/LaTeX

[M.B. Schiekel]

Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:

 Very nice. If I am allowed to be nitpicking: 
 ...

Done - thank you Jürgen -
bernhard

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Re: Presentation on LyX/LaTeX

[Nirmal Govind]

How about a section Documentation? We could place the link to the 
tipstricks and the wiki there as well as the lyx docs (as PDF, PS, HTML) 
plus user created Howtos, Tutorials and Presentations like Nirmal's/
Bernhard's. I remember some really good howtos appearing on this list from 
time to time.
I think a more appealing name may be User Resources since 
Documentation gives the impression of a long document (User's Guide in 
this case) which describes the details of the software.. however, this 
is only one of the many resources that are going to be available at this 
new link...

nirmal

Re: Presentation on LyX/LaTeX

[Andre Poenitz]

On Sun, Nov 16, 2003 at 12:20:56AM +0100, Karsten Heymann wrote:
 On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 11:33:27 +0100
 Juergen Spitzmueller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  M.B. Schiekel wrote:
   Corrections and improvement suggestions are wellcome.
  
  Nice presentation. I think you should check grammar and orthography,
  though. Here are some corrections (there are a few more errors of the
  same kind):
 [...]
  - Bibliographie-Verwaltungs Pakete - Bibliographieverwaltungspakete
 
 Thats german language at its best ...

Of course not. 

Literaturverzeichnisverwaltungspakete would already be better, but I
doubt it is already the Fahnenstangenende ;-)

Andre'

Re: Presentation on LyX/LaTeX

[M.B. Schiekel]

On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 11:33:27 +0100
Juergen Spitzmueller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I think you should check grammar and orthography,though. 
 ...

Andre Poenitz wrote:
 ...but I doubt it is already the Fahnenstangenende ;-)

Fahnenstangenendeupdatemitteilung:
thank you all for your valuable and funny comments. I integrated
Juergens, Nirmals ( Herberts) suggestions, made some minor changes in
the preamble and again uploaded the stuff to:
  http://home.t-online.de/home/mb.schiekel/LyX_PSU_LUG_de.pdf
  http://home.t-online.de/home/mb.schiekel/LyX_PSU_LUG_de.lyx

the updated original english version of Nirmal could be found at:
  http://www.personal.psu.edu/nug107/lyx/LyX_PSU_LUG.pdf
  http://www.personal.psu.edu/nug107/lyx/LyX_PSU_LUG.tar.gz

thank you all  a happy week
bernhard

-- 
http://home.t-online.de/home/mb.schiekel/
GPG-Key available: GnuPG v1.0.7

Re: Presentation on LyX/LaTeX

[Juergen Spitzmueller]

M.B. Schiekel wrote:
 Fahnenstangenendeupdatemitteilung:

Wunder Bar ;-)

 thank you all for your valuable and funny comments. I integrated
 Juergens, Nirmals ( Herberts) suggestions, made some minor changes in
 the preamble and again uploaded the stuff to:

Very nice. If I am allowed to be nitpicking: 
- p.9: Seiten Nummerierung - Seitennummerierung (or Paginierung)
- p. 31: bibtex Datenbanken - BibTeX-Datenbanken
- p. 39: LaTeX Präsentation - LaTeX-Präsentation

Thanks,
Jürgen.

Re: Presentation on LyX/LaTeX

[Andre Poenitz]

On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 11:23:09AM +0100, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:
 M.B. Schiekel wrote:
  Fahnenstangenendeupdatemitteilung:
 
 Wunder Bar ;-)
 
  thank you all for your valuable and funny comments. I integrated
  Juergens, Nirmals ( Herberts) suggestions, made some minor changes in
  the preamble and again uploaded the stuff to:
 
 Very nice. If I am allowed to be nitpicking: 
 - p.9: Seiten Nummerierung - Seitennummerierung (or Paginierung)
 - p. 31: bibtex Datenbanken - BibTeX-Datenbanken
 - p. 39: LaTeX Präsentation - LaTeX-Präsentation

I wonder whether we should put such things somewhere on the lyx web
site. (And if so, where?)

Andre'

-- 
Those who desire to give up Freedom in order to gain Security, will not have,
nor do they deserve, either one. (T. Jefferson or B. Franklin or both...)

Re: Presentation on LyX/LaTeX

[Munzir Taha]

On Sunday 16 November 2003 00:16, Nirmal Govind wrote:

  - Why LyX: Bugs (if any) are fixed pretty soon ...
have a look at http://bugzilla.lyx.org and count the open
bugs ...

 hmm... 1255 (new/assigned/verified/reopened) + 70 (unconfirmed) ... ok,
 I'll change that.. I should probably rephrase it and say Extremely
 responsive developers and users .. ;-)
If some one fixed bug #1404, I will vote with you.
http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1404
Other wise LyX and the people behind it is great but not with Extremely 
responsive developers and users ;)

  and last but not least, well done.

 Thanks..
 nirmal

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Re: Presentation on LyX/LaTeX

[Juergen Spitzmueller]

Andre Poenitz wrote:
 I wonder whether we should put such things somewhere on the lyx web
 site. (And if so, where?)

How about a section Documentation? We could place the link to the 
tipstricks and the wiki there as well as the lyx docs (as PDF, PS, HTML) 
plus user created Howtos, Tutorials and Presentations like Nirmal's/
Bernhard's. I remember some really good howtos appearing on this list from 
time to time.

Jürgen.

Re: Presentation on LyX/LaTeX

[Angus Leeming]

Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:

 Andre Poenitz wrote:
 I wonder whether we should put such things somewhere on the lyx web
 site. (And if so, where?)
 
 How about a section Documentation? We could place the link to the
 tipstricks and the wiki there as well as the lyx docs (as PDF, PS,
 HTML) plus user created Howtos, Tutorials and Presentations like
 Nirmal's/ Bernhard's. I remember some really good howtos appearing
 on this list from time to time.

Isn't this what wiki.lyx.org is for?

-- 
Angus

Re: Presentation on LyX/LaTeX

[Juergen Spitzmueller]

Angus Leeming wrote:
 Isn't this what wiki.lyx.org is for?

I think that the wiki is only one part of the documentation. However, it's not 
very clear where to search ATM. Therefore I'd place the link to the wiki on 
the same page than the link to Herbert's tips and other potential sources of 
information/documentation.

Jürgen.

Re: Presentation on LyX/LaTeX

[Angus Leeming]

Munzir Taha wrote:

 On Sunday 16 November 2003 00:16, Nirmal Govind wrote:
 
  - Why LyX: Bugs (if any) are fixed pretty soon ...
have a look at http://bugzilla.lyx.org and count the open
bugs ...

 hmm... 1255 (new/assigned/verified/reopened) + 70 (unconfirmed) ...
 ok, I'll change that.. I should probably rephrase it and say
 Extremely responsive developers and users .. ;-)
 If some one fixed bug #1404, I will vote with you.
 http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1404
 Other wise LyX and the people behind it is great but not with
 Extremely responsive developers and users ;)

Please try the attached patch. It was made against the lyx 1.3.x cvs 
sources so you may need to apply it 'by hand' to your own copy of 
lyx-1.3.3. I have not tested it, but can confirm that it does compile 
and that it does appear to 'do the right thing'. Ie, there is an 
obvious ordering bug in the source.

Please tell us whether the patch fixes the problem.

Kind regards,

-- 
Angus? build-qt
? build-xforms
? munzir.diff
Index: src/paragraph.C
===
RCS file: /usr/local/lyx/cvsroot/lyx-devel/src/paragraph.C,v
retrieving revision 1.235.2.1
diff -u -p -r1.235.2.1 paragraph.C
--- src/paragraph.C	12 Feb 2003 21:01:18 -	1.235.2.1
+++ src/paragraph.C	17 Nov 2003 12:05:37 -
@@ -1154,12 +1154,6 @@ Paragraph * Paragraph::TeXOnePar(Buffer 
 			os  '\n';
 			texrow.newline();
 		}
-
-		if (!params().spacing().isDefault()
-			 (!next_ || !next_-hasSameLayout(this))) {
-			os  params().spacing().writeEnvirEnd()  '\n';
-			texrow.newline();
-		}
 	}
 
 	// we don't need it for the last paragraph!!!
@@ -1182,6 +1176,14 @@ Paragraph * Paragraph::TeXOnePar(Buffer 
 	$$lang,
 	language-babel())
 endl;
+			texrow.newline();
+		}
+	}
+
+	if ((in == 0) || !in-forceDefaultParagraphs(in)) {
+		if (!params().spacing().isDefault()
+			 (!next_ || !next_-hasSameLayout(this))) {
+			os  params().spacing().writeEnvirEnd()  '\n';
 			texrow.newline();
 		}
 	}

Re: Presentation on LyX/LaTeX

[M.B. Schiekel]

Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:

 Very nice. If I am allowed to be nitpicking: 
 ...

Done - thank you Jürgen -
bernhard

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Re: Presentation on LyX/LaTeX

[Nirmal Govind]

How about a section Documentation? We could place the link to the 
tipstricks and the wiki there as well as the lyx docs (as PDF, PS, HTML) 
plus user created Howtos, Tutorials and Presentations like Nirmal's/
Bernhard's. I remember some really good howtos appearing on this list from 
time to time.
I think a more appealing name may be User Resources since 
Documentation gives the impression of a long document (User's Guide in 
this case) which describes the details of the software.. however, this 
is only one of the many resources that are going to be available at this 
new link...

nirmal

Re: Presentation on LyX/LaTeX

[Andre Poenitz]

On Sun, Nov 16, 2003 at 12:20:56AM +0100, Karsten Heymann wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 11:33:27 +0100
> "Juergen Spitzmueller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > M.B. Schiekel wrote:
> > > Corrections and improvement suggestions are wellcome.
> > 
> > Nice presentation. I think you should check grammar and orthography,
> > though. Here are some corrections (there are a few more errors of the
> > same kind):
> [...]
> > - Bibliographie-Verwaltungs Pakete -> Bibliographieverwaltungspakete
> 
> Thats german language at its best ...

Of course not. 

"Literaturverzeichnisverwaltungspakete" would already be better, but I
doubt it is already the Fahnenstangenende ;-)

Andre'

Re: Presentation on LyX/LaTeX

[M.B. Schiekel]

>>On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 11:33:27 +0100
>>"Juergen Spitzmueller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> I think you should check grammar and orthography,though. 
>>> ...

Andre Poenitz wrote:
> ...but I doubt it is already the Fahnenstangenende ;-)

"Fahnenstangenendeupdatemitteilung":
thank you all for your valuable and funny comments. I integrated
Juergens, Nirmals (& Herberts) suggestions, made some minor changes in
the preamble and again uploaded the stuff to:
  http://home.t-online.de/home/mb.schiekel/LyX_PSU_LUG_de.pdf
  http://home.t-online.de/home/mb.schiekel/LyX_PSU_LUG_de.lyx

the updated original english version of Nirmal could be found at:
  http://www.personal.psu.edu/nug107/lyx/LyX_PSU_LUG.pdf
  http://www.personal.psu.edu/nug107/lyx/LyX_PSU_LUG.tar.gz

thank you all & a happy week
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Re: Presentation on LyX/LaTeX

[Juergen Spitzmueller]

M.B. Schiekel wrote:
> "Fahnenstangenendeupdatemitteilung":

Wunder Bar ;-)

> thank you all for your valuable and funny comments. I integrated
> Juergens, Nirmals (& Herberts) suggestions, made some minor changes in
> the preamble and again uploaded the stuff to:

Very nice. If I am allowed to be nitpicking: 
- p.9: Seiten Nummerierung -> Seitennummerierung (or "Paginierung")
- p. 31: bibtex Datenbanken -> BibTeX-Datenbanken
- p. 39: LaTeX Präsentation -> LaTeX-Präsentation

Thanks,
Jürgen.

Re: Presentation on LyX/LaTeX

[Andre Poenitz]

On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 11:23:09AM +0100, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:
> M.B. Schiekel wrote:
> > "Fahnenstangenendeupdatemitteilung":
> 
> Wunder Bar ;-)
> 
> > thank you all for your valuable and funny comments. I integrated
> > Juergens, Nirmals (& Herberts) suggestions, made some minor changes in
> > the preamble and again uploaded the stuff to:
> 
> Very nice. If I am allowed to be nitpicking: 
> - p.9: Seiten Nummerierung -> Seitennummerierung (or "Paginierung")
> - p. 31: bibtex Datenbanken -> BibTeX-Datenbanken
> - p. 39: LaTeX Präsentation -> LaTeX-Präsentation

I wonder whether we should put such things somewhere on the lyx web
site. (And if so, where?)

Andre'

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Re: Presentation on LyX/LaTeX

[Munzir Taha]

On Sunday 16 November 2003 00:16, Nirmal Govind wrote:

> > - Why LyX: "Bugs (if any) are fixed pretty soon" ...
> >   have a look at http://bugzilla.lyx.org and count the open
> >   bugs ...
>
> hmm... 1255 (new/assigned/verified/reopened) + 70 (unconfirmed) ... ok,
> I'll change that.. I should probably rephrase it and say "Extremely
> responsive developers and users" .. ;-)
If some one fixed bug #1404, I will vote with you.
http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1404
Other wise LyX and the people behind it is great but not with Extremely 
responsive developers and users ;)

> > and last but not least, well done.
>
> Thanks..
> nirmal

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Re: Presentation on LyX/LaTeX

[Juergen Spitzmueller]

Andre Poenitz wrote:
> I wonder whether we should put such things somewhere on the lyx web
> site. (And if so, where?)

How about a section "Documentation"? We could place the link to the 
tips and the wiki there as well as the lyx docs (as PDF, PS, HTML) 
plus user created Howtos, Tutorials and Presentations like Nirmal's/
Bernhard's. I remember some really good howtos appearing on this list from 
time to time.

Jürgen.

Re: Presentation on LyX/LaTeX

[Angus Leeming]

Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:

> Andre Poenitz wrote:
>> I wonder whether we should put such things somewhere on the lyx web
>> site. (And if so, where?)
> 
> How about a section "Documentation"? We could place the link to the
> tips and the wiki there as well as the lyx docs (as PDF, PS,
> HTML) plus user created Howtos, Tutorials and Presentations like
> Nirmal's/ Bernhard's. I remember some really good howtos appearing
> on this list from time to time.

Isn't this what wiki.lyx.org is for?

-- 
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Re: Presentation on LyX/LaTeX

[Juergen Spitzmueller]

Angus Leeming wrote:
> Isn't this what wiki.lyx.org is for?

I think that the wiki is only one part of the documentation. However, it's not 
very clear where to search ATM. Therefore I'd place the link to the wiki on 
the same page than the link to Herbert's tips and other potential sources of 
information/documentation.

Jürgen.

Re: Presentation on LyX/LaTeX

[Angus Leeming]

Munzir Taha wrote:

> On Sunday 16 November 2003 00:16, Nirmal Govind wrote:
> 
>> > - Why LyX: "Bugs (if any) are fixed pretty soon" ...
>> >   have a look at http://bugzilla.lyx.org and count the open
>> >   bugs ...
>>
>> hmm... 1255 (new/assigned/verified/reopened) + 70 (unconfirmed) ...
>> ok, I'll change that.. I should probably rephrase it and say
>> "Extremely responsive developers and users" .. ;-)
> If some one fixed bug #1404, I will vote with you.
> http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1404
> Other wise LyX and the people behind it is great but not with
> Extremely responsive developers and users ;)

Please try the attached patch. It was made against the lyx 1.3.x cvs 
sources so you may need to apply it 'by hand' to your own copy of 
lyx-1.3.3. I have not tested it, but can confirm that it does compile 
and that it does appear to 'do the right thing'. Ie, there is an 
obvious ordering bug in the source.

Please tell us whether the patch fixes the problem.

Kind regards,

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Index: src/paragraph.C
===
RCS file: /usr/local/lyx/cvsroot/lyx-devel/src/paragraph.C,v
retrieving revision 1.235.2.1
diff -u -p -r1.235.2.1 paragraph.C
--- src/paragraph.C	12 Feb 2003 21:01:18 -	1.235.2.1
+++ src/paragraph.C	17 Nov 2003 12:05:37 -
@@ -1154,12 +1154,6 @@ Paragraph * Paragraph::TeXOnePar(Buffer 
 			os << '\n';
 			texrow.newline();
 		}
-
-		if (!params().spacing().isDefault()
-			&& (!next_ || !next_->hasSameLayout(this))) {
-			os << params().spacing().writeEnvirEnd() << '\n';
-			texrow.newline();
-		}
 	}
 
 	// we don't need it for the last paragraph!!!
@@ -1182,6 +1176,14 @@ Paragraph * Paragraph::TeXOnePar(Buffer 
 	"$$lang",
 	language->babel())
    << endl;
+			texrow.newline();
+		}
+	}
+
+	if ((in == 0) || !in->forceDefaultParagraphs(in)) {
+		if (!params().spacing().isDefault()
+			&& (!next_ || !next_->hasSameLayout(this))) {
+			os << params().spacing().writeEnvirEnd() << '\n';
 			texrow.newline();
 		}
 	}

Re: Presentation on LyX/LaTeX

[M.B. Schiekel]

Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:

> Very nice. If I am allowed to be nitpicking: 
> ...

Done - thank you Jürgen -
bernhard

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Re: Presentation on LyX/LaTeX

[Nirmal Govind]

How about a section "Documentation"? We could place the link to the 
tips and the wiki there as well as the lyx docs (as PDF, PS, HTML) 
plus user created Howtos, Tutorials and Presentations like Nirmal's/
Bernhard's. I remember some really good howtos appearing on this list from 
time to time.
I think a more appealing name may be "User Resources" since 
"Documentation" gives the impression of a long document (User's Guide in 
this case) which describes the details of the software.. however, this 
is only one of the many resources that are going to be available at this 
new link...

nirmal

Re: Presentation on LyX/LaTeX

[M.B. Schiekel]

Nirmal Govind wrote:

 if nirmal does agree, I can try a German translation of this nice
 presentation (but with his original English Lyx-version screeshots).
 Might be, that we can have it shorter than in a few years ;-)
 
 
 Oh sure... that would be great Bernhard... thanks! Let me know if I can
 help in any way (other than with the German of course.. :-))..


Hallo,
with the help of Nirmal I made a German translation (version 0.1) of his
Lyx/Latex presentation and uploaded this to
  http://home.t-online.de/home/mb.schiekel/LyX_PSU_LUG_de.pdf

Corrections and improvement suggestions are wellcome.
Thank you - nirmal. And a happy weekend to everyone -

bernhard


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Re: Presentation on LyX/LaTeX

[Juergen Spitzmueller]

M.B. Schiekel wrote:
 Corrections and improvement suggestions are wellcome.

Nice presentation. I think you should check grammar and orthography, though. 
Here are some corrections (there are a few more errors of the same kind):

- Dokumenten Erstellung - Dokumentenerstellung
- TeX Sprache - TeX-Sprache (but here I think TeX the programm, i.e. 
das Programm TeX is more appropriate).
- LaTeX3 Team - LaTeX3-Team
- Dokumenten Klassen - Dokumentenklassen
- selbst-definiert - selbstdefiniert (new spelling: selbst definiert)
- Abschnitts-Struktur - Abschnittsstruktur
- Seiten Layout - Seitenlayout
- Abschnitts Nummerierung - Abschnittsnummerierung
- Paragraphen Einrückung - Paragrapheneinrückung
- Seiten-Layout - Seitenlayout
- Griechische Buchstaben - griechische Buchstaben
- Erzeugung von PDF und/oder PS Ausgabe-Formaten
  - Erzeugung von PDF- und/oder PS-Ausgabeformaten
- LyX Demo - LyX-Demo
- URL's - URLs
- innnerhalb - innerhalb
- Bild-Formate - Bildformate
- bibtex Databasen - BibTeX-Datenbanken
- Bibliographie-Verwaltungs Pakete - Bibliographieverwaltungspakete
- Liste der Tabellen - Tabellenverzeichnis
- Liste der Abbildungen - Abbildungsverzeichnis
- Benutzer-definierte Konverter - benutzerdefinierte K.
- Computer Algebra Systemen - Computer-Algebra-Systemen
- GNOME basierte - GNOME-basiert

HTH,
Jürgen.

Re: Presentation on LyX/LaTeX

[Herbert Voß]

Nirmal Govind schrieb:
I made a presentation on LyX/LaTeX to the LUG here at Penn State 
yesterday. Below is the link in case someone's interested in doing 
something similar...

http://www.personal.psu.edu/nug107/lyx/LyX_PSU_LUG.pdf
some remarks:
- Overview: nowadays, it is not right, that LaTeX is _commonly_
  used for technical documents.
- Why LaTeX: you should make a difference between environments
  and commands, e.g. title, author, chapter, ... are no
  environments. In most cases \begin{author} ... \end{author}
  works, but it is not the same when having paragraphs inside
  such commands.
- Environments: section, subsection, subsubsection are
  commands, not environments.
  it is better to say verbatim instead of code

- Why LaTeX: a list of appendices is not created by default.
  This needs some tricky additional code.
- Why LyX: Bugs (if any) are fixed pretty soon ...
  have a look at http://bugzilla.lyx.org and count the open
  bugs ...
and last but not least, well done.

Herbert

Re: Presentation on LyX/LaTeX

[Nirmal Govind]

Thanks for your comments Herbert..

some remarks:
- Overview: nowadays, it is not right, that LaTeX is _commonly_
  used for technical documents.
No? Actually this point is interesting.. are there any statistics on the 
percentage of users in various fields (Sciences, Engg., Arts etc..) who 
use LaTeX? (a little bit of Googling didn't turn up anything)  I've made 
this change to the slide in any case..

- Why LaTeX: you should make a difference between environments
  and commands, e.g. title, author, chapter, ... are no
Good point.. I've made the changes...

  it is better to say verbatim instead of code
done..

- Why LaTeX: a list of appendices is not created by default.
  This needs some tricky additional code.
Ok, will take that out... I've been meaning to write up some of the 
appendix related information that several of us have obtained from this 
list since there's not much documentation on this right now... or maybe 
there is but I'm not aware of it - so if anyone has anything written up 
on this topic, can you please email a link to it (or send it to the LyX 
Documentation team I guess)...

- Why LyX: Bugs (if any) are fixed pretty soon ...
  have a look at http://bugzilla.lyx.org and count the open
  bugs ...
hmm... 1255 (new/assigned/verified/reopened) + 70 (unconfirmed) ... ok, 
I'll change that.. I should probably rephrase it and say Extremely 
responsive developers and users .. ;-)

and last but not least, well done.

Thanks..
nirmal

Re: Presentation on LyX/LaTeX

[Herbert Voß]

Nirmal Govind schrieb:

No? Actually this point is interesting.. are there any statistics on the 
percentage of users in various fields (Sciences, Engg., Arts etc..) who 
use LaTeX? (a little bit of Googling didn't turn up anything)  I've made 
this change to the slide in any case..
there exists no statistic, but following the discussions
on c.t.t and d.c.t.t lets you realize that the users who
use (La)TeX for non tecnical documents are not a minority.
Herbert

Re: Presentation on LyX/LaTeX

[Karsten Heymann]

On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 11:33:27 +0100
Juergen Spitzmueller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 M.B. Schiekel wrote:
  Corrections and improvement suggestions are wellcome.
 
 Nice presentation. I think you should check grammar and orthography,
 though. Here are some corrections (there are a few more errors of the
 same kind):
[...]
 - Bibliographie-Verwaltungs Pakete - Bibliographieverwaltungspakete

Thats german language at its best ...

scnr,

Karsten

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Re: Presentation on LyX/LaTeX

[Nirmal Govind]

Lyx/Latex presentation and uploaded this to
  http://home.t-online.de/home/mb.schiekel/LyX_PSU_LUG_de.pdf
That was real quick Bernhard.. thank you very much!

nirmal

Re: Presentation on LyX/LaTeX

[M.B. Schiekel]

Nirmal Govind wrote:

 if nirmal does agree, I can try a German translation of this nice
 presentation (but with his original English Lyx-version screeshots).
 Might be, that we can have it shorter than in a few years ;-)
 
 
 Oh sure... that would be great Bernhard... thanks! Let me know if I can
 help in any way (other than with the German of course.. :-))..


Hallo,
with the help of Nirmal I made a German translation (version 0.1) of his
Lyx/Latex presentation and uploaded this to
  http://home.t-online.de/home/mb.schiekel/LyX_PSU_LUG_de.pdf

Corrections and improvement suggestions are wellcome.
Thank you - nirmal. And a happy weekend to everyone -

bernhard


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Re: Presentation on LyX/LaTeX

[Juergen Spitzmueller]

M.B. Schiekel wrote:
 Corrections and improvement suggestions are wellcome.

Nice presentation. I think you should check grammar and orthography, though. 
Here are some corrections (there are a few more errors of the same kind):

- Dokumenten Erstellung - Dokumentenerstellung
- TeX Sprache - TeX-Sprache (but here I think TeX the programm, i.e. 
das Programm TeX is more appropriate).
- LaTeX3 Team - LaTeX3-Team
- Dokumenten Klassen - Dokumentenklassen
- selbst-definiert - selbstdefiniert (new spelling: selbst definiert)
- Abschnitts-Struktur - Abschnittsstruktur
- Seiten Layout - Seitenlayout
- Abschnitts Nummerierung - Abschnittsnummerierung
- Paragraphen Einrückung - Paragrapheneinrückung
- Seiten-Layout - Seitenlayout
- Griechische Buchstaben - griechische Buchstaben
- Erzeugung von PDF und/oder PS Ausgabe-Formaten
  - Erzeugung von PDF- und/oder PS-Ausgabeformaten
- LyX Demo - LyX-Demo
- URL's - URLs
- innnerhalb - innerhalb
- Bild-Formate - Bildformate
- bibtex Databasen - BibTeX-Datenbanken
- Bibliographie-Verwaltungs Pakete - Bibliographieverwaltungspakete
- Liste der Tabellen - Tabellenverzeichnis
- Liste der Abbildungen - Abbildungsverzeichnis
- Benutzer-definierte Konverter - benutzerdefinierte K.
- Computer Algebra Systemen - Computer-Algebra-Systemen
- GNOME basierte - GNOME-basiert

HTH,
Jürgen.

Re: Presentation on LyX/LaTeX

[Herbert Voß]

Nirmal Govind schrieb:
I made a presentation on LyX/LaTeX to the LUG here at Penn State 
yesterday. Below is the link in case someone's interested in doing 
something similar...

http://www.personal.psu.edu/nug107/lyx/LyX_PSU_LUG.pdf
some remarks:
- Overview: nowadays, it is not right, that LaTeX is _commonly_
  used for technical documents.
- Why LaTeX: you should make a difference between environments
  and commands, e.g. title, author, chapter, ... are no
  environments. In most cases \begin{author} ... \end{author}
  works, but it is not the same when having paragraphs inside
  such commands.
- Environments: section, subsection, subsubsection are
  commands, not environments.
  it is better to say verbatim instead of code

- Why LaTeX: a list of appendices is not created by default.
  This needs some tricky additional code.
- Why LyX: Bugs (if any) are fixed pretty soon ...
  have a look at http://bugzilla.lyx.org and count the open
  bugs ...
and last but not least, well done.

Herbert

Re: Presentation on LyX/LaTeX

[Nirmal Govind]

Thanks for your comments Herbert..

some remarks:
- Overview: nowadays, it is not right, that LaTeX is _commonly_
  used for technical documents.
No? Actually this point is interesting.. are there any statistics on the 
percentage of users in various fields (Sciences, Engg., Arts etc..) who 
use LaTeX? (a little bit of Googling didn't turn up anything)  I've made 
this change to the slide in any case..

- Why LaTeX: you should make a difference between environments
  and commands, e.g. title, author, chapter, ... are no
Good point.. I've made the changes...

  it is better to say verbatim instead of code
done..

- Why LaTeX: a list of appendices is not created by default.
  This needs some tricky additional code.
Ok, will take that out... I've been meaning to write up some of the 
appendix related information that several of us have obtained from this 
list since there's not much documentation on this right now... or maybe 
there is but I'm not aware of it - so if anyone has anything written up 
on this topic, can you please email a link to it (or send it to the LyX 
Documentation team I guess)...

- Why LyX: Bugs (if any) are fixed pretty soon ...
  have a look at http://bugzilla.lyx.org and count the open
  bugs ...
hmm... 1255 (new/assigned/verified/reopened) + 70 (unconfirmed) ... ok, 
I'll change that.. I should probably rephrase it and say Extremely 
responsive developers and users .. ;-)

and last but not least, well done.

Thanks..
nirmal

Re: Presentation on LyX/LaTeX

[Herbert Voß]

Nirmal Govind schrieb:

No? Actually this point is interesting.. are there any statistics on the 
percentage of users in various fields (Sciences, Engg., Arts etc..) who 
use LaTeX? (a little bit of Googling didn't turn up anything)  I've made 
this change to the slide in any case..
there exists no statistic, but following the discussions
on c.t.t and d.c.t.t lets you realize that the users who
use (La)TeX for non tecnical documents are not a minority.
Herbert

Re: Presentation on LyX/LaTeX

[Karsten Heymann]

On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 11:33:27 +0100
Juergen Spitzmueller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 M.B. Schiekel wrote:
  Corrections and improvement suggestions are wellcome.
 
 Nice presentation. I think you should check grammar and orthography,
 though. Here are some corrections (there are a few more errors of the
 same kind):
[...]
 - Bibliographie-Verwaltungs Pakete - Bibliographieverwaltungspakete

Thats german language at its best ...

scnr,

Karsten

-- 
Netzwerkteam Ökologiezentrum
CAU Kiel, Germany

Re: Presentation on LyX/LaTeX

[Nirmal Govind]

Lyx/Latex presentation and uploaded this to
  http://home.t-online.de/home/mb.schiekel/LyX_PSU_LUG_de.pdf
That was real quick Bernhard.. thank you very much!

nirmal

Re: Presentation on LyX/LaTeX

[M.B. Schiekel]

Nirmal Govind wrote:

>> if nirmal does agree, I can try a German translation of this nice
>> presentation (but with his original English Lyx-version screeshots).
>> Might be, that we can have it shorter than in a few years ;-)
> 
> 
> Oh sure... that would be great Bernhard... thanks! Let me know if I can
> help in any way (other than with the German of course.. :-))..


Hallo,
with the help of Nirmal I made a German translation (version 0.1) of his
Lyx/Latex presentation and uploaded this to
  http://home.t-online.de/home/mb.schiekel/LyX_PSU_LUG_de.pdf

Corrections and improvement suggestions are wellcome.
Thank you - nirmal. And a happy weekend to everyone -

bernhard


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Re: Presentation on LyX/LaTeX

[Juergen Spitzmueller]

M.B. Schiekel wrote:
> Corrections and improvement suggestions are wellcome.

Nice presentation. I think you should check grammar and orthography, though. 
Here are some corrections (there are a few more errors of the same kind):

- Dokumenten Erstellung -> Dokumentenerstellung
- TeX "Sprache" -> TeX-"Sprache" (but here I think "TeX the programm", i.e. 
"das Programm" TeX is more appropriate).
- LaTeX3 Team -> LaTeX3-Team
- Dokumenten Klassen -> Dokumentenklassen
- selbst-definiert -> selbstdefiniert (new spelling: selbst definiert)
- Abschnitts-Struktur -> Abschnittsstruktur
- Seiten Layout -> Seitenlayout
- Abschnitts Nummerierung -> Abschnittsnummerierung
- Paragraphen Einrückung -> Paragrapheneinrückung
- Seiten-Layout -> Seitenlayout
- Griechische Buchstaben -> griechische Buchstaben
- Erzeugung von PDF und/oder PS Ausgabe-Formaten
  -> Erzeugung von PDF- und/oder PS-Ausgabeformaten
- LyX Demo -> LyX-Demo
- URL's -> URLs
- innnerhalb -> innerhalb
- Bild-Formate -> Bildformate
- bibtex Databasen -> BibTeX-Datenbanken
- Bibliographie-Verwaltungs Pakete -> Bibliographieverwaltungspakete
- Liste der Tabellen -> Tabellenverzeichnis
- Liste der Abbildungen -> Abbildungsverzeichnis
- Benutzer-definierte Konverter -> benutzerdefinierte K.
- Computer Algebra Systemen -> Computer-Algebra-Systemen
- GNOME basierte -> GNOME-basiert

HTH,
Jürgen.

Re: Presentation on LyX/LaTeX

[Herbert Voß]

Nirmal Govind schrieb:
I made a presentation on LyX/LaTeX to the LUG here at Penn State 
yesterday. Below is the link in case someone's interested in doing 
something similar...

http://www.personal.psu.edu/nug107/lyx/LyX_PSU_LUG.pdf
some remarks:
- Overview: nowadays, it is not right, that LaTeX is _commonly_
  used for technical documents.
- Why LaTeX: you should make a difference between environments
  and commands, e.g. title, author, chapter, ... are no
  environments. In most cases \begin{author} ... \end{author}
  works, but it is not the same when having paragraphs inside
  such commands.
- Environments: section, subsection, subsubsection are
  commands, not environments.
  it is better to say verbatim instead of code

- Why LaTeX: a list of appendices is not created by default.
  This needs some tricky additional code.
- Why LyX: "Bugs (if any) are fixed pretty soon" ...
  have a look at http://bugzilla.lyx.org and count the open
  bugs ...
and last but not least, well done.

Herbert

Re: Presentation on LyX/LaTeX

[Nirmal Govind]

Thanks for your comments Herbert..

some remarks:
- Overview: nowadays, it is not right, that LaTeX is _commonly_
  used for technical documents.
No? Actually this point is interesting.. are there any statistics on the 
percentage of users in various fields (Sciences, Engg., Arts etc..) who 
use LaTeX? (a little bit of Googling didn't turn up anything)  I've made 
this change to the slide in any case..

- Why LaTeX: you should make a difference between environments
  and commands, e.g. title, author, chapter, ... are no
Good point.. I've made the changes...

  it is better to say verbatim instead of code
done..

- Why LaTeX: a list of appendices is not created by default.
  This needs some tricky additional code.
Ok, will take that out... I've been meaning to write up some of the 
appendix related information that several of us have obtained from this 
list since there's not much documentation on this right now... or maybe 
there is but I'm not aware of it - so if anyone has anything written up 
on this topic, can you please email a link to it (or send it to the LyX 
Documentation team I guess)...

- Why LyX: "Bugs (if any) are fixed pretty soon" ...
  have a look at http://bugzilla.lyx.org and count the open
  bugs ...
hmm... 1255 (new/assigned/verified/reopened) + 70 (unconfirmed) ... ok, 
I'll change that.. I should probably rephrase it and say "Extremely 
responsive developers and users" .. ;-)

and last but not least, well done.

Thanks..
nirmal

Re: Presentation on LyX/LaTeX

[Herbert Voß]

Nirmal Govind schrieb:

No? Actually this point is interesting.. are there any statistics on the 
percentage of users in various fields (Sciences, Engg., Arts etc..) who 
use LaTeX? (a little bit of Googling didn't turn up anything)  I've made 
this change to the slide in any case..
there exists no statistic, but following the discussions
on c.t.t and d.c.t.t lets you realize that the users who
use (La)TeX for non tecnical documents are not a minority.
Herbert

Re: Presentation on LyX/LaTeX

[Karsten Heymann]

On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 11:33:27 +0100
"Juergen Spitzmueller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> M.B. Schiekel wrote:
> > Corrections and improvement suggestions are wellcome.
> 
> Nice presentation. I think you should check grammar and orthography,
> though. Here are some corrections (there are a few more errors of the
> same kind):
[...]
> - Bibliographie-Verwaltungs Pakete -> Bibliographieverwaltungspakete

Thats german language at its best ...

scnr,

Karsten

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Re: Presentation on LyX/LaTeX

[Nirmal Govind]

Lyx/Latex presentation and uploaded this to
  http://home.t-online.de/home/mb.schiekel/LyX_PSU_LUG_de.pdf
That was real quick Bernhard.. thank you very much!

nirmal

Re: Presentation on LyX/LaTeX

[Jose' Matos]

On Thursday 13 November 2003 10:23, Nirmal Govind wrote:
 Hi folks,

 I made a presentation on LyX/LaTeX to the LUG here at Penn State
 yesterday. Below is the link in case someone's interested in doing
 something similar...

 http://www.personal.psu.edu/nug107/lyx/LyX_PSU_LUG.pdf

  Congratulations, well done.

 Thanks,
 nirmal

-- 
José Abílio

LyX and docbook, a perfect match. :-)

Re: Presentation on LyX/LaTeX

[Andre Poenitz]

On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 05:23:53AM -0500, Nirmal Govind wrote:
 Hi folks,
 
 I made a presentation on LyX/LaTeX to the LUG here at Penn State 
 yesterday. Below is the link in case someone's interested in doing 
 something similar...
 
 http://www.personal.psu.edu/nug107/lyx/LyX_PSU_LUG.pdf

You managed to pick a code example showing quite a few sins ;-)

What document class did you use?

Andre'

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nor do they deserve, either one. (T. Jefferson or B. Franklin or both...)

Re: Presentation on LyX/LaTeX

[Nirmal Govind]

Thanks Jose' and hi Andre' ...

You managed to pick a code example showing quite a few sins ;-)
Completely unintentional I assure you.. :-) (has to be - cos I haven't 
tried to understand the code anyways!)

What document class did you use?
I used pdfscreen ...

nirmal

Re: Presentation on LyX/LaTeX

[Angus Leeming]

Nirmal Govind wrote:

 Thanks Jose' and hi Andre' ...
 
 You managed to pick a code example showing quite a few sins ;-)
 
 Completely unintentional I assure you.. :-) (has to be - cos I
 haven't tried to understand the code anyways!)
 
 What document class did you use?
 
 I used pdfscreen ...

Could you post the lyx file too? I'm writing some presentations 
myself and am all in favour of ditching powerpoint ;-)

-- 
Angus

Re: Presentation on LyX/LaTeX

[Andre Poenitz]

On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 01:51:46PM +, Angus Leeming wrote:
 Could you post the lyx file too? I'm writing some presentations 
 myself and am all in favour of ditching powerpoint ;-)

And a German translation perhaps?

I am supposed to give a talk on LyX on Dec 18... ;-)

Andre'

Re: Presentation on LyX/LaTeX

[Nirmal Govind]

Could you post the lyx file too? I'm writing some presentations 
myself and am all in favour of ditching powerpoint ;-)

Yes, I've posted the archive here:

http://www.personal.psu.edu/nug107/lyx/LyX_PSU_LUG.tar.gz

It has the pdfscreen2.sty file,  pdfscreen.layout for lyx and of course 
the lyx and graphics files...

 And a German translation perhaps?

 I am supposed to give a talk on LyX on Dec 18... ;-)

Aah I see.. German translation - sure, maybe in a few years.. :-)

nirmal

Re: Presentation on LyX/LaTeX

[Angus Leeming]

Nirmal Govind wrote:

 Could you post the lyx file too? I'm writing some presentations
 myself and am all in favour of ditching powerpoint ;-)
 
 
 Yes, I've posted the archive here:
 
 http://www.personal.psu.edu/nug107/lyx/LyX_PSU_LUG.tar.gz
 
 It has the pdfscreen2.sty file,  pdfscreen.layout for lyx and of
 course the lyx and graphics files...

Got it. Many thanks, Nirmal!

-- 
Angus

Re: Presentation on LyX/LaTeX

[M.B. Schiekel]

Nirmal Govind wrote:

 And a German translation perhaps?

 I am supposed to give a talk on LyX on Dec 18... ;-)
 
 Aah I see.. German translation - sure, maybe in a few years.. :-)


Hallo,

if nirmal does agree, I can try a German translation of this nice
presentation (but with his original English Lyx-version screeshots).
Might be, that we can have it shorter than in a few years ;-)

bernhard


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Re: Presentation on LyX/LaTeX

[Kayvan A. Sylvan]

On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 05:23:53AM -0500, Nirmal Govind wrote:
 Hi folks,
 
 I made a presentation on LyX/LaTeX to the LUG here at Penn State 
 yesterday. Below is the link in case someone's interested in doing 
 something similar...
 
 http://www.personal.psu.edu/nug107/lyx/LyX_PSU_LUG.pdf
 
 Thanks,
 nirmal

Looks great!

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Re: Presentation on LyX/LaTeX

[Karsten Heymann]

On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 05:23:53 -0500
Nirmal Govind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi folks,
 
 I made a presentation on LyX/LaTeX to the LUG here at Penn State 
 yesterday. Below is the link in case someone's interested in doing 
 something similar...
 
 http://www.personal.psu.edu/nug107/lyx/LyX_PSU_LUG.pdf

Hi Nirmal,

it's a nice presentation!

@ the list: wouldn't it be nice to collect lyx-related info material
centrally somewhere so when someone gets asked what's lyx? he can use
it? I guess there are = 1 people presenting LyX in a presentation (or
not?). I think this stuff is called advocacy. 

And latex-beamer[1] support would be nice (though not trivial...)

My 2c,

Karsten

[1]: http://latex-beamer.sourceforge.net/

Re: Presentation on LyX/LaTeX

[Nirmal Govind]

Hallo,

if nirmal does agree, I can try a German translation of this nice
presentation (but with his original English Lyx-version screeshots).
Might be, that we can have it shorter than in a few years ;-)
Oh sure... that would be great Bernhard... thanks! Let me know if I can 
help in any way (other than with the German of course.. :-))..

nirmal

Re: Presentation on LyX/LaTeX

[M.B. Schiekel]

Nirmal Govind wrote:

 http://www.personal.psu.edu/nug107/lyx/LyX_PSU_LUG.tar.gz
 
 It has the pdfscreen2.sty file,  pdfscreen.layout for lyx and of course
 the lyx and graphics files...

well, I put the pdfscreen.layout in \usr\share\lyx\layouts
and the pdfscreen2.sty in \usr\share\lyx\tex
then run 'texhash' and 'lyx-reconfigure'
and then got an errormessage: unknown textclass pdfscreen
??

thank you -
bernhard


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Re: Presentation on LyX/LaTeX

[Nirmal Govind]

and the pdfscreen2.sty in \usr\share\lyx\tex
Is the above path defined in your texmf.cnf file? (you can find where 
this file is located by running kpsewhich texmf.cnf).. you probably want 
to put it in your localtexmf directory (say, for e.g. at 
/home/username/texmf/tex/latex/pdfscreen/ or so).. take a look at Help 
- Customization - 5.1 in LyX...

Hopefully this will do it..

nirmal