Re: Problems with BibTeX crossrefs
>>Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 15:30:26 +0200 >>From: "G. Milde" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org >>Subject: Re: Problems with BibTeX crossrefs >> >>Copying the fields instead of a crossref is of course a "quick and dirty" >>workaround. I disagree upon this: it's crossreferencing which is the "quick and dirty" solution, as the citation extract cannot be manipulated alone (same remark abour STRING facility). Unless the bibtex tool allows database export with crossref and abrev expansion, these facilities create a loss of information at source level, not appropriate for static data like citations (I can't think of a more static piece of info than a citation in fact: once typed correctly it will never change, so basically is should be typed only onece by the first author and then only copied :-). -- Jean-Pierre
Re: Problems with BibTeX crossrefs
On 24.03.05, Rich Shepard wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Mar 2005, Stefano Franchi wrote:
>
> >Can anyone explain how to get BibTeX to correctly parse a citation to an
> >article in a book when the .bib file uses the crossref mechanism? For
> >example, here is a minimal file:
> >
> >@incollection{Vamvoukakis1980,
> > Author = {Nicolas Vamvoukakis},
> > Crossref = {Aubenque1980}, Pages = {253-269},
> > Title = {Les cat{\'e}gories aristot{\'e}liennes d'action et de
> >passion vues par Simplicius},
> > Year = {1980}}
> > @book{Aubenque1980,
> > Address = {Paris},
> > Editor = {Pierre Aubenque},
> > Publisher = {Vrin},
> > Title = {Concepts et cat{\'e}gories dans la pens{\'e}e antique},
> > Year = {1980}}
>
> Stefano,
>
> The referenced work _may_ need to start at column 1, as does the citation.
AFAIK, all whitespace is equivalent in bibtex (see example file btxdoc.bib
that comes with bibtex (/usr/share/doc/texmf/bibtex/base/btxdoc.bib on my
Debian system)).
I cannot find an error, but studying the bibtex documentation in
btxdoc.dvi might give some advice.
> If you are citing only a single chapter from a collection a direct
> reference (rather than a cross reference) is simpler and it does work. At
> least it does for me.
Copying the fields instead of a crossref is of course a "quick and dirty"
workaround.
Guenter
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Re: Problems with BibTeX crossrefs
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005, Stefano Franchi wrote:
Can anyone explain how to get BibTeX to correctly parse a citation to an
article in a book when the .bib file uses the crossref mechanism? For
example, here is a minimal file:
@incollection{Vamvoukakis1980,
Author = {Nicolas Vamvoukakis},
Crossref = {Aubenque1980}, Pages = {253-269},
Title = {Les cat{\'e}gories aristot{\'e}liennes d'action et de
passion vues par Simplicius},
Year = {1980}}
@book{Aubenque1980,
Address = {Paris},
Editor = {Pierre Aubenque},
Publisher = {Vrin},
Title = {Concepts et cat{\'e}gories dans la pens{\'e}e antique},
Year = {1980}}
Stefano,
The referenced work _may_ need to start at column 1, as does the citation.
If you are citing only a single chapter from a collection a direct
reference (rather than a cross reference) is simpler and it does work. At
least it does for me.
The BibTeXing document from February 8, 1988 shows the two entries as
separate ones. That is, each begins in column 1. I have no idea if that is
significant or not.
HTH,
Rich
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Re: Problems with BibTeX crossrefs
On Mar 24, 2005, at 11:43 AM, Bennett Helm wrote: On Mar 24, 2005, at 2:34 PM, Stefano Franchi wrote: Can anyone explain how to get BibTeX to correctly parse a citation to an article in a book when the .bib file uses the crossref mechanism? I believe the cross-referenced citation must occur in the .bib file *before* the cross-referencing citation. Switch the order of yours, and it should work. Bennett I tried that, and it does not work. Actually it's worse: BibTeX complains that it cannot find the cross-referenced entry if I switch them :-( Stefano __ Stefano Franchi Department of Philosophy Ph: (64) 9 373-7599 x83940 University Of Auckland Fax: (64) 9 373-7408 Private Bag 92019 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Auckland New Zealand
Re: Problems with BibTeX crossrefs
On Mar 24, 2005, at 2:34 PM, Stefano Franchi wrote: Can anyone explain how to get BibTeX to correctly parse a citation to an article in a book when the .bib file uses the crossref mechanism? I believe the cross-referenced citation must occur in the .bib file *before* the cross-referencing citation. Switch the order of yours, and it should work. Bennett
