Re: [M100] M100 Digest, Vol 109, Issue 22

[Stephen Adolph]

Not just yet, the sound bite is
"all of REX, + enabling CP/M"
plug and play, 4MB of total storage.  M100 and T102

On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 7:16 PM Jim Williams  wrote:

> Thanks Stephen.
> Is there a description of REXCPM somewhere?
> Definitely interested in one; I can put my current REX  (still running
> 4.8) in my backup M100.
>
> > Message: 5
> > Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2020 10:40:45 -0500
> > From: Stephen Adolph 
> > To: m...@bitchin100.com
> > Subject: Re: [M100] Current version of Virtual T? Rex2?
> > Message-ID:
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> camcmnv4oyhsp3fsjcscire7wdvfoadveukeiwwyu9jeybbj...@mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > HI Jim,
> > The newest version of REX, REXCPM, is nearing completion.  Just sorting
> out
> > the last details for manufacturing a reasonable quantity now.
> > ..Steve
> >
> >
>

Re: [M100] Club100: Can I help?

[John R. Hogerhuis]

Sorry James I had intended to direct my response to Charles. Though it's
probably applicable to everybody.


-- John.


On Wed, Jan 22, 2020, 3:49 PM James Zeun  wrote:

> I'll have to look at the Wiki, would be happy to contribute where I can. I
> don't mind watching YouTube, but I feel there are plenty of people on there
> without adding my voice. Besides I prefer contributing to the written word,
> while attention spans seem ever bent on shrinking to that of a gold fish
> ;-P
>
>

Re: [M100] M100 Digest, Vol 109, Issue 22

[Jim Williams]

Thanks Jonathan.
It doesn't handshake? Not even a software handshake?

Good to hear that someone already has this working.

> --
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2020 17:00:54 +
> From: Jonathan Yuen 
> To: "m...@bitchin100.com" 
> Subject: Re: [M100] RS232 to TTL
> Message-ID: <2c06a10171de49eca7a413eee9900...@exch2-1.slu.se>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Hello,
>
> This is how I connect a Raspberry Pi to my M100, the little board even looks 
> the same.  You can get 5v from the Pi GPIO bus, and the tx, rx, and gnd.
>
> It seems to do OK with the M100 almost RS-232 levels.  It doesn't handshake 
> though, but I just run at slower speeds if I'm using the builtin term.
>
> Jonathan
>
> jonathan.y...@mykopat.slu.se
> 
> Fr?n: M100 [m100-boun...@lists.bitchin100.com] f?r Jim Williams 
> [hira...@hotmail.com]
> Skickat: den 22 januari 2020 16:33
> Till: m100@lists.bitchin100.com
> ?mne: [M100] RS232 to TTL
>
> I've been working on my Raspberry Pi recently, trying to connect it to
> an Adafruit FONA cellular module.
> The primary communication has been through TTL serial between the two.
>
> Recently, I reluctantly switched to USB connection, for speed, which
> freed up the serial pins on the Pi and on the FONA.
>
> I came across this article, "Add a 9-pin serial port to your Raspberry
> Pi in 10 Minutes"
> http://www.davidhunt.ie/add-a-9-pin-serial-port-to-your-raspberry-pi-in-10-minutes/
>
> And It occurred to me that I could use one to connect my Pi, or a ZeroW,
> even, to my M100.
> Now I'm wondering if I can use it to connect the FONA directly to the
> M100, forgetting the Pi.
> It should be doable, since the needed pins are on the FONA.
>
> I think it would be cool to be able to log onto my Pi from my M100 (and
> I can think of several uses people might have for this setup), but even
> cooler to use the FONA.
>
> The FONA also has... uhm... I2C, I think it is, connectors. So other
> sensors could be connected to it via those connectors, and the M100
> could be used as a remote data collection device. I think.
>
> Anyway, I picked up a couple RS232-TTL converters, with DB9s and using a
> Max3232 chip off of ebay for about $12 for both. You can get them a LOT
> cheaper (under $3.00 US for one), but these gave me the confidence that
> they wouldn't fail on me.
>
> I'll post here any experiences I have once I play with it some. Just
> thought I'd share on something that was new to me.
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2020 16:29:42 -0500
> From: Charles Hudson 
> To: m100@lists.bitchin100.com
> Subject: [M100] Club100: Can I help?
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> In December of 2018 I got my first M100, which was my first TRS-anything.
> I remember I posted on VCFED asking for advice on how to care and feed the
> little monster.  I remember Mike Stein pointing me to Club100 and to
> Bitchin100.  I remember all the help and advice you people have given me
> along the way.
>
> I had occasion to visit Club100 today and was impressed (again), this time
> with the fact that so many of this community have devoted part of their
> lives to keeping Rick Hanson's legacy alive.  Thanks especially to Ken
> Pettit and John Hogerhuis who appear to have done the heavy lifting, thanks
> to LizardHill for hosting the site, and I could go on but you get the
> point: this is exceptional.
>
> So let me offer to help; let me repay my debt to those who have contributed
> to the legacy from which I have profited.  Let me know what I can do.  (I'm
> good at flying leaps...)
>
> -CH-
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Re: [M100] M100 Digest, Vol 109, Issue 22

[Jim Williams]

Thanks Stephen.
Is there a description of REXCPM somewhere?
Definitely interested in one; I can put my current REX  (still running 
4.8) in my backup M100.

> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2020 10:40:45 -0500
> From: Stephen Adolph 
> To: m...@bitchin100.com
> Subject: Re: [M100] Current version of Virtual T? Rex2?
> Message-ID:
>   
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> HI Jim,
> The newest version of REX, REXCPM, is nearing completion.  Just sorting out
> the last details for manufacturing a reasonable quantity now.
> ..Steve
>
>

[M100] Mikrokolor ?

[James Zeun]

I was just reading the wiki about this device. Has anyone seen one of these
in the wild? I couldn't seem to find any actual photos.

Re: [M100] Converting document to BASIC file

[Brian K. White]

On 1/22/20 6:54 PM, Daryl Tester wrote:

On 23/1/20 2:02 am, Jim Williams wrote:


Doh... I renamed the game file extension from .bas to .ba, loaded it
into Virtual-T... and it appears to run without errors!


I think it was discussed on the list recently that Virtual-T does the
conversion automagically for you.  On the Model 100 itself there's a
method to load documents to convert to Basic, but that method temporarily
eludes me.

Cheers,
   --dt



This has already been written, in the user manual. ;)

If you have a BASIC file that you can read as text, then regardless what 
filename it has now, rename it to FOO.DO , where "FOO" is anything 6 
characters or shorter.


Copy the file to the M100.

Enter BASIC

LOAD "FOO.DO"
SAVE "FOO"
KILL "FOO.DO"

You now have a FOO.BA on the M100

--
bkw

Re: [M100] Converting document to BASIC file

[Daryl Tester]

On 23/1/20 2:02 am, Jim Williams wrote:


Doh... I renamed the game file extension from .bas to .ba, loaded it
into Virtual-T... and it appears to run without errors!


I think it was discussed on the list recently that Virtual-T does the
conversion automagically for you.  On the Model 100 itself there's a
method to load documents to convert to Basic, but that method temporarily
eludes me.

Cheers,
  --dt

Re: [M100] Club100: Can I help?

[James Zeun]

I'll have to look at the Wiki, would be happy to contribute where I can. I
don't mind watching YouTube, but I feel there are plenty of people on there
without adding my voice. Besides I prefer contributing to the written word,
while attention spans seem ever bent on shrinking to that of a gold fish
;-P



On Wed, 22 Jan 2020, 10:42 pm John R. Hogerhuis,  wrote:

> As long as you're having fun with it, and sometimes sharing the fun with
> the rest of us, I'd say you're doing your part as a member of the community.
>
> These days youtube is a great way to share the hobby. If you do something
> tricky or interesting you could try your hand at that.
>
> We always need more documentation. As I say from time to time, those that
> wish to assist or edit docs at https://bitchin100.com/wiki just have to
> send me a email address and a request to create you an account. I don't
> allow self sign up because of past instances where the site was overrun
> with spam.
>
> -- John.
>

Re: [M100] Club100: Can I help?

[John R. Hogerhuis]

As long as you're having fun with it, and sometimes sharing the fun with
the rest of us, I'd say you're doing your part as a member of the community.

These days youtube is a great way to share the hobby. If you do something
tricky or interesting you could try your hand at that.

We always need more documentation. As I say from time to time, those that
wish to assist or edit docs at https://bitchin100.com/wiki just have to
send me a email address and a request to create you an account. I don't
allow self sign up because of past instances where the site was overrun
with spam.

-- John.

Re: [M100] Converting document to BASIC file

[Peter Vollan]

FYI arcadeshopper.com has the 8K RAM modules for the model 10x.

On Wed, 22 Jan 2020 at 07:32, Jim Williams  wrote:
>
> Doh... I renamed the game file extension from .bas to .ba, loaded it
> into Virtual-T... and it appears to run without errors!
>
> Which is great, but leaves me without a project.
>
> Not really; I need to reformat it for the 40 column screen, add in an
> option to exit mid-game, things like that.
>
> Oh... the game's name?
>
> The Oregon Trail.
>
> My plan now, after fitting it to the 40 column screen (any way I could
> get it to work with View80?), is to "morph" it into "The Organ Trail", a
> modern version set in a post-apocalyptic world. Maybe even add some
> ascii graphics.
>

Re: [M100] Club100: Can I help?

[James Zeun]

Well said, likewise I'm hoping to cover more in Model 100 material on my
blog. If for nothing else than to keep a record of my activities and maybe
get others interested in this great computer.

James

On Wed, 22 Jan 2020, 9:29 pm Charles Hudson,  wrote:

> In December of 2018 I got my first M100, which was my first TRS-anything.
> I remember I posted on VCFED asking for advice on how to care and feed the
> little monster.  I remember Mike Stein pointing me to Club100 and to
> Bitchin100.  I remember all the help and advice you people have given me
> along the way.
>
> I had occasion to visit Club100 today and was impressed (again), this time
> with the fact that so many of this community have devoted part of their
> lives to keeping Rick Hanson's legacy alive.  Thanks especially to Ken
> Pettit and John Hogerhuis who appear to have done the heavy lifting, thanks
> to LizardHill for hosting the site, and I could go on but you get the
> point: this is exceptional.
>
> So let me offer to help; let me repay my debt to those who have
> contributed to the legacy from which I have profited.  Let me know what I
> can do.  (I'm good at flying leaps...)
>
> -CH-
>
>
>
>
>

[M100] Club100: Can I help?

[Charles Hudson]

In December of 2018 I got my first M100, which was my first TRS-anything.
I remember I posted on VCFED asking for advice on how to care and feed the
little monster.  I remember Mike Stein pointing me to Club100 and to
Bitchin100.  I remember all the help and advice you people have given me
along the way.

I had occasion to visit Club100 today and was impressed (again), this time
with the fact that so many of this community have devoted part of their
lives to keeping Rick Hanson's legacy alive.  Thanks especially to Ken
Pettit and John Hogerhuis who appear to have done the heavy lifting, thanks
to LizardHill for hosting the site, and I could go on but you get the
point: this is exceptional.

So let me offer to help; let me repay my debt to those who have contributed
to the legacy from which I have profited.  Let me know what I can do.  (I'm
good at flying leaps...)

-CH-

Re: [M100] RS232 to TTL

[Jonathan Yuen]

Hello,

This is how I connect a Raspberry Pi to my M100, the little board even looks 
the same.  You can get 5v from the Pi GPIO bus, and the tx, rx, and gnd.

It seems to do OK with the M100 almost RS-232 levels.  It doesn't handshake 
though, but I just run at slower speeds if I'm using the builtin term.

Jonathan

jonathan.y...@mykopat.slu.se

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Skickat: den 22 januari 2020 16:33
Till: m100@lists.bitchin100.com
Ämne: [M100] RS232 to TTL

I've been working on my Raspberry Pi recently, trying to connect it to
an Adafruit FONA cellular module.
The primary communication has been through TTL serial between the two.

Recently, I reluctantly switched to USB connection, for speed, which
freed up the serial pins on the Pi and on the FONA.

I came across this article, "Add a 9-pin serial port to your Raspberry
Pi in 10 Minutes"
http://www.davidhunt.ie/add-a-9-pin-serial-port-to-your-raspberry-pi-in-10-minutes/

And It occurred to me that I could use one to connect my Pi, or a ZeroW,
even, to my M100.
Now I'm wondering if I can use it to connect the FONA directly to the
M100, forgetting the Pi.
It should be doable, since the needed pins are on the FONA.

I think it would be cool to be able to log onto my Pi from my M100 (and
I can think of several uses people might have for this setup), but even
cooler to use the FONA.

The FONA also has... uhm... I2C, I think it is, connectors. So other
sensors could be connected to it via those connectors, and the M100
could be used as a remote data collection device. I think.

Anyway, I picked up a couple RS232-TTL converters, with DB9s and using a
Max3232 chip off of ebay for about $12 for both. You can get them a LOT
cheaper (under $3.00 US for one), but these gave me the confidence that
they wouldn't fail on me.

I'll post here any experiences I have once I play with it some. Just
thought I'd share on something that was new to me.

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Re: [M100] Current version of Virtual T? Rex2?

[Stephen Adolph]

HI Jim,
The newest version of REX, REXCPM, is nearing completion.  Just sorting out
the last details for manufacturing a reasonable quantity now.
..Steve

On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 10:27 AM Jim Williams  wrote:

> I just realized that, after a hard drive crash awhile back, I have
> LaddieAlpha on my desktop, but not Virtual-T.
>
> So I corrected this by creating a shortcut, but I noticed the datestamp
> on the Virtual-T executable is 2013.
>
> Upon running it, I discover it's version 1.5. Is this the current
> version? Or should I download a newer one to replace it?
>
> Further... it has an option I don't remember (doesn't mean it wasn't
> there...) for a "REX2" ROM.
>
> Which reminded me that there was proposed a newer version of REX that
> would have basically a large ramdisk in addition to the multiple banks.
> Did that ever come about? (yes, I've been fafiated for awhile, I hope to
> correct that this year).
>
>

[M100] RS232 to TTL

[Jim Williams]

I've been working on my Raspberry Pi recently, trying to connect it to 
an Adafruit FONA cellular module.
The primary communication has been through TTL serial between the two.

Recently, I reluctantly switched to USB connection, for speed, which 
freed up the serial pins on the Pi and on the FONA.

I came across this article, "Add a 9-pin serial port to your Raspberry 
Pi in 10 Minutes"
http://www.davidhunt.ie/add-a-9-pin-serial-port-to-your-raspberry-pi-in-10-minutes/
 

And It occurred to me that I could use one to connect my Pi, or a ZeroW, 
even, to my M100.
Now I'm wondering if I can use it to connect the FONA directly to the 
M100, forgetting the Pi.
It should be doable, since the needed pins are on the FONA.

I think it would be cool to be able to log onto my Pi from my M100 (and 
I can think of several uses people might have for this setup), but even 
cooler to use the FONA.

The FONA also has... uhm... I2C, I think it is, connectors. So other 
sensors could be connected to it via those connectors, and the M100 
could be used as a remote data collection device. I think.

Anyway, I picked up a couple RS232-TTL converters, with DB9s and using a 
Max3232 chip off of ebay for about $12 for both. You can get them a LOT 
cheaper (under $3.00 US for one), but these gave me the confidence that 
they wouldn't fail on me.

I'll post here any experiences I have once I play with it some. Just 
thought I'd share on something that was new to me.

[M100] Converting text document to BASIC file

[Jim Williams]

Okay, as I mentioned in the email I just posted, I've been fafiated*, 
and just dug out Virtual-T.

I came across an old basic program listing (not my own) I'd like to try 
installing on my M100. It's 8K, so it should fit, but it's in text 
format, meant for another system The original code dates to 1978.

I want to screw around with it to see if I can remember my old BASIC 
programming knowledge from... omg.. almost 40 years ago, now.

But I can't recall offhand how to convert a text document to a Model T 
BASIC program. I suppose I could dig the owners manual out of the 
closet, or just type it in by hand (did I mention it's 8K?) but then 
asking here might spark an interesting discussion. And of course I'll be 
sure to share my experience here.

(first learned BASIC on the school's only TRS-80 Model I with Level 2 
BASIC; then on a VIC-20 of my own)

(*FAFIATED = Forced Away From It All).

Re: [M100] Converting document to BASIC file

[Jim Williams]

Doh... I renamed the game file extension from .bas to .ba, loaded it 
into Virtual-T... and it appears to run without errors!

Which is great, but leaves me without a project.

Not really; I need to reformat it for the 40 column screen, add in an 
option to exit mid-game, things like that.

Oh... the game's name?

The Oregon Trail.

My plan now, after fitting it to the 40 column screen (any way I could 
get it to work with View80?), is to "morph" it into "The Organ Trail", a 
modern version set in a post-apocalyptic world. Maybe even add some 
ascii graphics.

[M100] Current version of Virtual T? Rex2?

[Jim Williams]

I just realized that, after a hard drive crash awhile back, I have 
LaddieAlpha on my desktop, but not Virtual-T.

So I corrected this by creating a shortcut, but I noticed the datestamp 
on the Virtual-T executable is 2013.

Upon running it, I discover it's version 1.5. Is this the current 
version? Or should I download a newer one to replace it?

Further... it has an option I don't remember (doesn't mean it wasn't 
there...) for a "REX2" ROM.

Which reminded me that there was proposed a newer version of REX that 
would have basically a large ramdisk in addition to the multiple banks. 
Did that ever come about? (yes, I've been fafiated for awhile, I hope to 
correct that this year).